tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC November 5, 2019 9:00am-10:00am PST
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>> the whistle-blower said lots of things that weren't so good, folks, you're going to find. >> we also now know the name of the whistle-blower. i say tonight to the media, do your job and print his name. americans ambushed today. at least nine members of a mormon family including six children killed in mexico, prompting the president to declare it's time for americans to wage war on the cartels. >> these are u.s. citizens. >> it's not just getting caught in the gunfire, in the wrong place or time. this is a whole new level of cartel violence. and warning signs, as voters head to the polls in off-year elections in three kicritical states today. we're one year out from the presidential contest.
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what are the warning signs for democrats? >> everybody was looking at the national polls. trump never led the national polls. >> i think that everyone needs to remember that the way we win the presidency is not a national poll. it is state by state by state. and good day, everyone, i'm andrea mitchell in washington where the impeachment inquiry is slated to release yet more testimony today from two state department political invoice who coordinated with rudy giuliani and energy secretary rick perry in some cases in ukraine. committee members have already raised questions about alleged discrepancy in the testimony of one of them, u.s. ambassador to the european union gordon sondland, a trump donor whose recollection conflict with the testimony of several veteran career diplomats, in particular former ukraine ambassador marie
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yovanovitch, told investigators sondland told her, to save her job, "you know, you need to go big or go home." joining us, kristen welker, geoff bennett, former democratic congressman steve israel, and former spokesperson for john boehner, michael steel. >> andrea, there's been no sign of these transcripts just yet. i'm told by my hours that house democrats are intentionally choreographing the release of these transcripts to help illustrate the public case they hope to bring against president trump. yesterday, as you mentioned, we got the transcripts of marie yovanovitch and michael mckinley. adam schiff said their testimony highlighted the contamination of american foreign policy by allies of the president who sought to create an irregular
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back channel to accomplish president trump's personal objectives. all right. well, today they're set to release the closed door transcripts of the testimony of two men who were involved in that irregular back channel, gordon sold land and kurt volker, two of the so-called three amigos, the third being energy secretary rick perry, deputized by president trump, according to the testimony, to form a shadow foreign policy. sondland told house investigators that rudy giuliani wasn't freelancing in ukraine, he was actually working in support of president trump's stated goal. we have since learned from other testimony, as you point out, that in some cases sondland's testimony doesn't entirely stand up. for instance, he talks about a july 10th meeting between nsc advisers and white house officials that he says was
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completely uneventful. but there are three other witnesses who say they were so alarmed by what sondland told those ukrainian officials, in one case lieutenant colonel alexander vindman flagged it to the nsc lawyer because he was so disturbed by this offer that sondland was making. when it comes to volker, we've heard from republicans for weeks who said that volker in his testimony made clear there was no quid pro quo at least in his view. republicans have been calling on democrats to release that testimony, today they will. we'll see if there's anything exculpatory for president trump, andrea. >> there's so much that's come out in the testimony so far from marie yovanovitch, from mike ma ly mike mckinley, the career ambassadors. the fact that yovanovitch felt threatened, being called in the middle of the night and told,
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come back, the suggestion that it was a security issue, a safety issue when she was recalled home. let me replay what you requested the president on the south lawn yesterday. >> when you look at the transcripts, the president of ukraine was not a fan of her either. he did not exactly say glowing things. i'm sure she's a fine woman, i don't know much about her. >> how does the president, i know he can say what he wants to say, in the clear sworn testimony shows that somebody's not telling the truth here and most likely it's the president. >> it was remarkable, andrea, because as you point out and as you just played that sound bite there, you hear the president very clearly say "i just don't know her," and then if you look at the notes that were released
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from that july 25th phone call between president trump and the president of ukraine, he refers to yovanovitch as bad news. so he clearly is very aware of who she is at the very least. yovanovitch was asked, according to the transcript, if she felt threatened, and she replied yes. so really damaging testimony, frankly, that was released yesterday on the part of marie yovanovitch. and again, the president not explaining the disconnect there about why he would be talking about her being bad news and at the same time why he's now saying he doesn't know her. this is the strategy from the president, trying to discredit these witnesses. he's referred to other witnesses as never trumpers without evidence. that's the type of strategy you can expect to see from the president, from this administration moving forward as they step up their efforts, frankly, to block witnesses from testifying before congress. now, president trump was out on the stump last night in
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kentucky. he was taking aim at the whistle-blower and at this entire process and trying to paint democrats as the do-nothing party. we've seen that play out on twitter. remarkably, no events at the white house here today, andrea, so we're all watching our twitter fields closely, andrea. >> indeed. steve israel, let's talk about the democratic strategy, they're trying to release these transcripts, an obvious rebuttal to the republicans and the president, who suggested last week these would be selectively edited. but they're being released in their entirety. the democrats are not going to wait for court fights, they're not going to wait for john bolton to get his court appearance tested by the judges, they're proceeding very rapidly. >> well, they are, andrea. i spent all of sunday with congressman adam schiff in new york, and he made it very clear
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that if the republican strategy is to defy subpoenas, to reject attempts to testify, they cannot wait for the courts to decide. the court have become almost a sanctuary for trump officials who don't want to choose between responding to a subpoena or angering the president and being on the wrong end of tweets. so the democrats are moving expeditiously and fairly. these depositions were transcribed, they're now being released. let me say one other thing, andrea, which i think is important. what we're seeing now is a narrative being portrayed, a narrative that is reflected in these transcripts. you're seeing a narrative, whether or not the president is impeached in the house or convicted in the senate, you're seeing a narrative of a president who has abused his power, debased diplomacy, turned on his own diplomats, and
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separate and apart from whether there is an impeachment, this narrative is compelling and persuasive and i think will have very significant impact on the electorate. >> that's the political context rather than what would be the legal context of any kind of impeachment. michael steel, are the politics in the democrats' corner, the way this thing is becoming unveiled? >> not right now. they have a -- they can make a compelling public case that these misdeeds are not only real and important but rise to the level that the president should be impeached, convicted, and removed from office. they have not yet made that argument. you have to remember there are 30 or so house democrats sitting in seats that president trump won in 2016. if you look at polls in these swing states, the states that will determine the president's political fate, a year from now, he's still leading many of the democrat potential nominees. it is far from clear, particularly in the house chooses to impeach the
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president, and the senate declines to convict him, he will claim exoneration, he will claim vindication and he will claim this was a partisan witch hunt all along and that will be a pretty compelling argument going into reelection. >> that was nancy pelosi's hesitance going into this during the mueller probe. but now this is being unveiled as what many say is an abuse of power, the shadow foreign policy by rudy giuliani, the rest of it, they have a better argument for at least unveiling or revealing what was going on even if he's not going to be convicted. >> yes. this is a much easier to understand narrative than the mueller probe turned out to be. so i think it is easier to explain to the american people, it's easier for them to understand. at the same time it isn't something that intrinsically seems like a big deal to a lot of people. i recognize the danger it poses to our democracy. but you can see people saying, this is how politics is done, of course he was looking for opposition information on joe biden and his son, that makes
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perfect sense. >> is one of the -- >> andrea, i'm sorry, i have to respectfully disagree. a president who says to a foreign leader, that bad things are going to happen or some things are going to happen to his own ambassador, that is a big deal, with all due respect. and i do think -- >> does it become -- i mean, i would agree with you that that's a very big deal. i've covered the state department for years, i've never seen anything like this. to hear how this career ambassador was feeling threatened by the united states. but how to they get that message out to people who don't seem to care about our diplomacy and who might be more worried about potential government shutdown? let me ask you about that. does that put the democrats on their back heels if the president pushes a shutdown over the wall? >> i mean, i've learned from my own experience that when the government is shut down, people tend to blame the people who
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shut it down. when it happened when i was in congress, the republicans shut it down, the blame goes to those focused. people want the government open and functioning. >> michael? >> border security is important, and democrats shutting down the government to block better border security is not a good look. >> they would warring it's not better border security, it's a wall that nobody needs or wants to pay for. that is exactly what we're going into next, because kristen welker, geoff bennett, michael steel, steve israel, thank you very much. americans including children killed in a mexican ambush. we'll talk about that next right here on "andrea mitchell reports." ll reports. devices are like doorways
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turning now to an horrific story in mexico where at least nine americans including six children, three women, have been killed in what appears to be an ambush by an organized drug cartel. eight children survived and are being treated at the hospital including a 13-year-old who walked 14 miles to get help. the americans living in mexico were reportedly traveling with their children in three vehicles, some to see family members in mexico, others going on to arizona. they were in the mexican state of sonora, 75 miles south of the u.s. border, which they were attacked. this is the charred remains of
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one of the cars. taylor langford says it belonged to his cousin. he says she and four of her children were inside, including twin babies. they were ambushed, shot, and burned alive. >> helpless families are being innocently killed down there. there was an attack on families, women and children. >> joining us now is nbc's sam brock. sam, are there any more details about the attempts to capture the cartel members, anything new? >> reporter: andrea, this is so disturbing, the details of this are so disturbing, it's hard to even repeat. here is what we know at this hour. there are three parents and 14 children in three different vehicles. they were caravanning all together. the reason they were doing that, ironically, is for their own safety. they thought they would be more protected if they went in that arrangement. but the mexican deposit came out this morning and saying that cartel, potentially a rival
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cartel nearby where they were on the sonora/chihuahua border, may have confused the cartel and they started firing. here's what doesn't make sense. there were reports from family members that as this car was burning, riddled with bullet holes, there were little kids running away from the car and they were gunned down. it definitely stretches the imagination to try to figure out and there was confusion as to who was in those cars. why continue the violence when there were kids running? here is what we also know, the victims in this case, 43 years old was the oldest parent. it goes down to 8-month-old twins, andrea, who were killed. there was an 8-year-old who had his jaw broken. there was a 9-month-old with an open chest wound from a bullet. you're looking at some of those victims. nine total died, six of them children. as of this hour we know there are five children in the hospital in arizona with their dad who is now a widower.
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the details of this absolutely shattering and so difficult to comprehend in the context of what we've seen in mexico recently with violence against police officers and a military-style assault after the carpet of he wi"el chapo's" son. perhaps the most impassioned response is from the sonoran governor who said, what kind of monster would kill women and children, and that there will be a just response. >> sam brock, thank you so much for covering this horrible story. joining us now is jake sullivan, former director of policy planning at the state department during the obama administration, and former national security adviser to vice president joe biden. and roberta jacobson. the president has tweeted today if mexico needs or requests help in cleaning out these monsters,
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the united states stands ready, willing and able to get involved. the cartels have become so large and powerful you sometimes need an army to defeat an army. the mexican president, said he would speak on tuesday with his u.s. counterpart, donald trump, but he's focusing on mexico handling its own business. roberta, you're the expert, having lived there so long and knowing the region, this is a particularly egregious example of american victims of continuous drug cartel violence. >> right. i think it's important to understand in the midst of this incredible tragedy, and our hearts go out to the families, that these are dual nationals who have been living in mexico. there has been a community of mormons in mexico for a long
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time, people who broke off from the mormon church. i will say that it is not unusual to have mistaken identity by these cartels. we saw it with an ambush of an i.c.e. vehicle, a u.s. immigration and customs enforcement vehicle in 2011, when an i.c.e. agent was killed. we saw it with consulate employees at one point in 2010 in juarez. we don't know the details of this particular case in unfortunately, the reaction from cartel members is often to shoot first and ask questions later about who may have been involved. and the issue of children in this i think is what makes it so very horrific. >> and of course the president may well be planning to use this as he campaigns for the border wall, which is going to be the signature issue in play as we
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approach, you know, a debate over a government shutdown. >> one thing that's important to remember is that president trump talked about sending troops to mexico to help them in this fight in his first phone call with the then-mexican president. this is not a new theme, it has unfortunate reemerged with this incident. >> this all comes as the testimony in the impeachment inquiry, jake and roberta, reveals what i would call a real political corruption of diplomacy as we have always known it. it involves front and center testimony by mike mckinley in particular and marie yovanovitch which really raises questions about secretary of state mike pompeo, michael mckinley testifying that he approached mike pompeo three times about
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his concerns that the state department was not supporting ousted ambassador to the ukraine marie yovanovitch, a direct contradiction to what pompeo told abc news last month, that mckinley had never raised it. let's watch. >> mike mckinley served me well for a year and a half. i chose him, i had people tell me he was a great foreign service officer. in fact he served america wonderfully for 37 years. he had an office just behind mine, he had a door that he could walk in and say whatever he wanted. from the time when ambassador yovanovitch departed until the time he came to tell me he was departing, i never heard him say a single thing with respect to the decision. >> you weren't asked -- >> not once did ambassador mckinley say something to me during that time period. >> according to mike mckinley's testimony, it wasn't once, it was three times.
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>> right. >> you're reactir reaction to a? >> andrea, both republicans and democrats have served as secretary of state before, jim baker and hillary clinton come to mind, they both checked politics at the door and put the interests of the american people first. what we've seen from mike pompeo throughout this episode is that he serves one person and one person only, that's donald trump. he doesn't serve the interests of the united states. he's prepared to throw u.s. foreign service officers under the bus. this is just further indication that this administration is not focused on the national interests of the united states. they're focused on the personal interests of the president. and we're all suffering as a result of it. >> you know, there are 75,000 state department employees, i
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don't need to tell you, jake and roberta, ambassador jacobson, you've both been at the highest levels of the state department, and as jake points out, i've never seen it this political. john kerry was a senator and a secretary of state. you've worked under republicans. >> six presidents. and i think, you know, we often talk about that quaint saying, politics ends at the water's edge. what we mean is you don't take your political fights overseas, right, which is what the issue is discussing right now on ukraine. but those of us at the state department also understood it in reverse, that is to say, you couldn't ask the secretary of state to get involved in our domestic campaigns. they were discrepanscrupulous a doing events in the united states even on foreign policy matters, sometimes, that could be perceived as being part of the domestic political campaign.
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and this doesn't just cross that line, it objeliterates it. with secretary pompeo going to kansas all the time, asking for an investigation about the bidens. it has now become a situation in which people at the state department now feel that they are no longer public servants or advancing the foreign policy objectives of the united states. they're part of a campaign. and that's a very uncomfortable feeling. >> and your reference to the trips to kansas, people go home, and he has a home in kansas. >> of course. >> but he goes home and, jake, does a series of interviews with local kansas papers. there's a senate race that he says he's not interested in but still might get into, the filing date is june of 2020. the "wichita eagle" said in an
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editorial last week basically that it's been disgraceful and political and he has to decide whether he's a politician or a top diplomat, jake. >> and it's cleared that he's decided that he's a politician. when he travels to kansas and when he travels overseas, he engages in political activity, attacking democrats and boosting republicans, he's an attack dog against the obama administration, against his own personnel when he feels they're somehow not serving the political agenda of the president. and this is a crisis i think for american diplomacy, because if america's chief diplomat is acting more as a politician than as an honest broker on behalf of the american national interests, then our national security suffers. and the people trying day in and day out as professionals to serve on behalf of our country, they suffer too, and in very deep, human ways, just as we saw
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from the testimony of ambassador yovanovitch of ukraine who got recalled and was not defended by mike pompeo precisely because it served his political interests to let her be the fall person. >> jake sullivan, roberta jacobson, thank you both so very much. coming up, rolling stone. jury selection begins today in the trial of roger stone, one of the most prominent trump political allies charged as part of mueller investigation. a live report from the federal courthouse downtown in washington, next, right here on "andrea mitchell reports." you're watching msnbc.
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jury selection is under way today in the trial of long time trump confidant roger stone who is charged with giving false statements to congress, obstruction of justice, and witness tampering. stone says he's the victim of a political prosecution. he served as an adviser to trump's 2016 campaign, was repeatedly admonished by the judge in this case to stop making comments in the case that could impact the jury pool. joining me is ken dilanian and barbara mcquade.
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roger stone has pleaded not guilty. the charges involve obstruction, misleading the house, and an additional one of witness tampering afterwards. this is the first trial involving the russia connection and the hacked wikileaks emails during the democratic campaign because the manafort trial was all about bank fraud and tax evasion. at least this testimony could overlap with the impeachment inquiry and the timetable but it could be the first time we look at the unexplored, prosecutable issues, some would say, of the russia connection from the first volume of the mueller investigation. >> that is a very good point, andrea. you know, at one point roger stone was seen as the potential linchpin in robert mueller's efforts to establish a conspiracy between the trump campaign and the russian election interference effort through wikileaks. as we know, robert mueller never
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ended up making that case but he did arrest and charge roger stone for misleading statements. what we already know from the evidence in this trial is it will show how keen the trump campaign, stone, and others were to get their hands on those emails, to figure out what wikileaks had and what they were going to dump the damaging material for democrats even though it was an open secret that those emails had been hacked by the russians, had essentially come from a foreign power. that's going to be front and center in this trial. jury selection is under way, it got delayed a little bit because of a medical emergency, one of the observers to the trial had to be attended to. one potential juror said she had a negative impression of president trump, nonetheless the judge dismissed objections by the defense and allowed those
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jurors to go forward. jury selection may go into tomorrow. we expect a two-week trial. roger stone has said in court papers he does not believe the russians in fact hacked the democrats. he believes it was an inside job. so far the job has not given credence to that argument. they may put it in front of the jury. we're expecting a fairly interesting and colorful trial, andrea. >> anything involving roger stone, for decades going back to richard nixon, i know is colorful. barbara mcquade, you have tweeted about this issue and you've written about this issue, that this could be the secrets of the mueller redactions revealed because there was a phone call to the president in his car with rick gates and it was redacted and it could very well be that that call, if rick gates is supposed to be one of the witnesses, the deputy campaign manager, who had a plea deal, rick gates could testify
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who was on that phone call. >> yes, i think that we are positioned to see a lot of things that were redacted from the mueller report. the bulk of the redactions in the report related to pending matter, and i think most people believe the pending matter is the roger stone trial, to prevent any unfairness to him before his trial, much of that material was redacted. now that's about to come out. i think we'll learn how much president trump knew about what was going on with wikileaks. even though robert mueller concluded it did not arise to the level of conspiracy, he did conclude that there was coordination going on with what the messaging was going to be regarding wikileaks. for example, in the stone indictment it talks about now would be a good time to start messaging that hillary clinton is not well, that she's ill, perhaps anticipating that there
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would be emails coming out that coincided with that messaging. voters might be concerned about a president who is gathering information stolen by russia and using it to his tactical advantage to win an election. >> barbara, i wanted to ask you about lev barn as, the rudy giuliani associate charged in federal court, he's separated from his old lawyer, he's willing to talk to impeachment investigators. this could be a long time down the road. don't they have to coordinate with federal investigators first? >> one would hope they will coordinate with federal investigators. it is fraught with a little bit of peril. if they were for example to immunize him in the congressional case, they would not be able to use that information against him in a criminal case. we saw this happen in the oliver north prosecution where oliver north got immunity for his congressional testimony and then that testimony was used against
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him in the criminal case. it was deemed by a court later that his criminal conviction was tainted and thereby reversed. so there does have to be some coordination that goes on. to the extent they're investigating additional crimes to use as leverage against him to obtain cooperation against rudy giuliani, they have to make sure they're coordinating those efforts. i'm hopeful that they will. i know the house intelligence committee, for example, has hired some former sdny prosecutors to be their counsel. so one would hope they are anticipating these issues, and addressing them. and so in some ways they could utilize him in both arenas quite effectively if they're coordinating their efforts. >> i covered the oliver north case and the iran-contra hearing, it's fascinating what lev parnas could tell about rudy
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watch tonight. most recent battleground polls show a close race in the presidential contest. steve kornacki joins us now. steve, what are you watching for tonight? >> three interesting storylines to keep an eye on. let's start with where the president was last night on the eve of the kentucky gubernatorial election. bevin is seeked reelection, beshear challenging him. this will test the pull of donald trump. donald trump won kentucky by 30 points in 2016, but matt bevin, republican incumbent, is not a popular governor, his approval rating sits at 34%, this in deeply red kentucky. nationally, bevin, according to morning consult polls, the second least popular governor in
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america. bevin, running for reelection with that kind of baggage, there's donald trump coming to the state basically saying, hey, kentucky, if you like me then you better be out there voting for matt bevin. can the polarization of the trump era propel bevin to reelection? the most recent polling, this goes back a few weeks, but the most recent polling we've got out of kentucky shows a dead even race. the other big governor's race tonight is in mississippi. interesting story again. deeply red state, and yet this race also looks very close. this is an open state. reeves is the republican governor, hood his democratic challenger. virginia, not a governor's race. the state legislature. remember this story from a couple of years ago, 51-49, republicans lead the state, basically the seat that decided the state legislature came down to a coin flip or a drawing, i should say.
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can democrats flip that? can democrats flip the state senate? they're only one seat off there. to put that in bigger perspective, it's the story of virginia going from a republican bastion, these are presidential election results going back to the '60s. it switched in 2008. if democrats can win a state legislature in virginia tonight on top of the governorship, on top of these presidential results, you're really seeing the transformation of virginia from red to blue. >> and virginia, such a key indicator. guess who was in virginia on sunday. joe biden exchange with terry mcauliffe, the very popular former democratic governor who had even been talked about as a possible presidential contender but wouldn't run once biden was running because they're both moderates. i would keep an eye on terry mcauliffe especially in that legislature turns democratic. he could run again, he was term limited the first time but he could run again after being out
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of office, for virginia governor. >> absolutely. you have a one-term limit, but you can come back. remember, it seems like an eternity ago, the governor of virginia, the democrat earlier this year in a scandal caught in blackface pictures, he admitted it at first and then said it wasn't him. democrats said, is that going to cost us in the state legislative elections? the more recent evidence, it's the story of politics these days, a lot of folks seem to have forgotten or moved on from that, a testament to the reality of politics in this era. >> steve, we'll be watching you. >> we'll be here. >> probably you and brian williams is when it's all going to happen. thanks a lot, in prime time. coming up, how are republicans trying to counteract damaging testimony about ukraine from state department witnesses? we'll have the inside scoop, next right here on "andrea mitchell reports." your watching msnbc. ♪ limu emu & doug
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appear for a deposition in the impeachment inquiry by house democrats as soon as this friday, november 8th. we know they have been asking people to testify but this would be a special case. brand paul is facing criticism after callen o on the media and congress last night to release the name of the whistle-blower whose complain plaun muched the whole impeachment inquiry. i say tonight to the media, do your job and print his name. and i say this to my fellow
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colleagues in congress, step up and subpoena hunter biden and subpoena the whistle-blower. >> senator mitt romney says revealing his or her identity would be unfortunate. >> i believe in personal privacy, particularly as it relates to a whistle-blower and that would be most unfortunate. >> joining us now, eugeyeeugene and heidi przbola. it was born out by the partial transcript released and by all of the subsequent testimony and all of the other corroborating witnesses. >> rand paul needs to be asked what his intent is. as you out lines, it was
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corroborated by the president himself, mick mulvaney, and all of these transcripts being made public nap 2012 law, the whole intent of that was to prevent whistle-blowers that may have corrupt dealings from being retaliated against. so all of the information, much of it, has been legally you learn it as part of your official duties, so if fn disclosed it, that would be a case for prosecution, it is considered really back practice because they're supposed to be protected and it will have a
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chilling effort. >> yes, some allies of the president could go forward with making that name public if they find out what that name is outside of the context of their official duties. but one of of the things very harm sfl it is not the media's job to make the name public and it is also important to remember that we're talking about one than one whistle-blower if you follow the story along the way. it is rand paul's job to further the narrative of his supporters. right now that is not what is happening and that is why the investigation is according to both sides of the aisle. >> some of the people that are covert jobs, once the names are released that is career ending as we certainly learned in the case of valerie plane that did become a case.
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and the person who was held. thinking about the historic nature of what we're seeing now. it's not just the whistle-blower, after the whistle-blower we have seen numerous career diplomats, veterans, respected members of society, laying down their careers and their reputations to come forward and they showed us something that was so disturbing and now with the release of these transcripts we're seeing the reaction to that by the president's party and his allies is not to be interested at all and it may be hostile to the substance of what they're trying to say and warn america about, but it is sully their reputation, i encourage everyone to read those transcripts. there is one thing that is
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particularly upsetting. mark meadows was questioning marie yovanovitch. i don't know what his motive was, but he said what is this name, masha, where does it come from, as if someone with an eastern european nickname is not american. easte eastern europeans have been here for many many generations. you don't see anything there in the substance of what officials are trying to warn us about. >> we have to leave it there unfortunately but that is exactly the way they tried to go after colonel vindman. and there is a report that there will be a house democratic caucus this afternoon and we'll be right back. democratic caucus this afternoon and we'll be right back. when i needed to jumpstart sales. build attendance for an event.
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hey fred - it's medicare open enrollment.e. time to compare plans. we're fine with what we have. that's what the johnsons thought until they tried medicare's new plan finder. the johnsons?. we saved a lot on our prescription costs and got extra benefits. how 'bout it, fred. plans change every year. use the new plan finder at medicare.gov . comparing plans really pays. look how much we can save.
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