and they're coming back to the transcript of the phone call and saying that the president did nothing wrong. >> leigh ann caldwell on the hill, thank you. cynthia alksne, a big thanks to you. jonathan allen, thanks as well as for your analysis. that will wrap up this hour of "msnbc live." see you tomorrow morning on "today." right now, "andrea mitchell reports." >> craig melvin, thank you. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," going public. house intelligence committee chair adam schiff confirming public hearings in the impeachment inquiry start next week. >> those open hearings will be an opportunity for the american people to evaluate the witnesses for themselves. kentucky derby. despite an election eve rally with president trump or perhaps because of it, kentucky's republican governor apparently loses to a democratic challenger in a state the president had won in 2016 by 30 points. >> it's a message that says our elections don't have to be about

right versus left. they are still about right versus wrong. and cold-blooded ambush. mexican authorities say they have arrested at least one suspect in connection with the horrific attack that left nine people including six children dead, as their families search for answers to who murdered their loved ones. >> it's really hard to look at those charred skeletons and to see or to even think that that's my family in there. it's been this horrible, horrible nightmare. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell with the breaking news here in washington. impeachment chairman adam schiff has announced open hearings will begin next week starting with william taylor, the former ambassador who was sent to replace marie yovanovitch in ukraine, as the star witness on wednesday, then yovanovitch on friday of that week. meanwhile we're expecting a transcript very shortly of

william taylor's testimony to be released. it was taylor who told the committee military aid to ukraine was directly tied by the white house and by rudy giuliani to ukraine's willingness to investigate the bidens. this morning david hale, undersecretary of state for political affairs in mike pompeo's state department, became the first witness this week to appear for a deposition, following stunning revelations from ambassador gordon sondland, the trump donor who changed his story yesterday, refreshing his testimony. now he somehow remembers a critical conversation with a top aide to ukraine's president describing a quid pro quo. in this statement, quote, i said that resumption of u.s. aid would likely not occur until ukraine provided the public anticorruption statement we had been discussing for many weeks. that exactly is quid pro quo. joining me now, nbc's geoff bennett on capitol hill and nbc's countrikristen welker at

white house. geoff, adam schiff came out and explained what's going to happen with the public hearings and the importance that have. >> reporter: i'm told there is a fair amount of political choreography that has gone into the scheduling of these hearings. next wednesday at 10:00 a.m. the american public will hear directly from ambassadors bill taylor and george kent. bill taylor is important because he's one of the four witnesses who testified behind closed doors speaking directly to the existence of a quid pro quo. taylor, according to his testimony, told house investigators that president trump directed officials to tie the foreign aid meant for ukraine to the demand that ukrainian officials open up an investigation that would be beneficial to president trump directly. taylor also told committee investigators, according to our reporting, that he was concerned well before the july 25th phone call in question, that he had concerns in late june, early july, that this $400 million

meant to counter russian aggression that had already been authorized by this congress, that it was being held up for political reasons. taylor told house investigators that it was gordon sondland, kurt volker, rick perry, the energy secretary, that were deputized to run the foreign policy. george kent said the same thing but added detail to it, telling house investigators that mick mulvaney deputized those three men and gave them a nickname, the three amigos. we'll hear from those two gentlemen first. the american public will have a day to digest whatever they learn from that testimony on thursday. then on friday we'll hear from marie yovanovitch, the well-respected by all accounts career state department official who unknowingly ran afoul of the irregular back channel that the so-called three amigos were running at president trump's request. she'll say what she told house

investigators, that when she knew what rudy giuliani was droo doing, she raised legitimate red flags and as a result of that found herself targeted, found herself smeared. you hear president trump and his republican allies say that the call was perfect, there was nothing wrong with the call in question. house democrats make the point that this was a coordinated campaign, that the phone call did not exist in isolation, andrea. >> and kristen welker, with the white house now and its allies, jim jordan, what is about to be placed apparently on the intelligence committee as a very strong advocate and a partisan here who is combating the reality of a lot of the testimony. he keeps referring to the sondland testimony, an ambassador who was a political appointee, a big political donor, and who just had to change his testimony after it was contradicted by every other witness. >> reporter: it was really remarkable when we saw that

testimony yesterday from gordon sondland, the updated version of it in which he essentially lays out what amounts to a quid pro quo, echoing bill taylor, linking the fact that military aid was withheld, he said, in exchange for those investigations that president trump was seeking. now, the president's allies, white house officials here, kellyanne conway, we had a chance to talk to her earlier today, pushing back and essentially saying, look, he never drew a direct link to the president and ultimately the aid was turned over. for his part, president trump is highlighting the testimony of kurt volker. let me read you part of what president trump tweeted earlier today, andrea, and we'll do some unanimously on the other side. he tweeted, thank you to kurt volker, u.s. envoy to ukraine, who said in his congressional testimony just released, you asked what conversations did i have about that quid pro quo, none, because i didn't know there was a quid pro quo witch hunt. he is emphasizing that. bottom line, andrea, volker just says he was unaware of a quid

pro quo and doesn't directly contradict the testimony of gordon sondland and those other white house officials who essentially drew a broader picture in which there was in fact one. we'll have a chance to ask president trump about this when he departs for a political rally a little bit later on today, andrea. >> and they are certainly cherry picking the testimony because it is so clear what was said, and the taylor testimony is going to be released, we've already seen the yovanovitch and other testimonies that were released, it makes it very clear exactly what happened, the connections to the president himself. standing by for more updates, geoff bennett, kristen welker, thank you. connecticut democratic senator chris murphy joins me now. senator murphy, the public hearings, the impact of those hearings and the way the house democrats are laying this out, what do you think the impact will be? >> well, i got the chance to sit

down with bill taylor for a couple of hours when i visited the ukraine as the scandal was unfolding early in september. bill taylor is out of central casting. this is a career public servant, somebody who has served presidents of both parties, served in the defense department, in the state department, he's a patriot through and through. first and foremost i think that's what the american people are going to see, they'll see patriots, people who are simply telling the truth about a massive corruption scheme that tried to trade away the credibility of the united states in order to get a foreign country to destroy the president's political rival, something that's not allowed in a democracy. it's going to be a powerful visual and you'll see the quality of these individuals that will all speak to the same story, a story that is unquestioned. we know what happened. it is now a matter of deciding what to do about it. >> i'm wondering about your committee, the foreign relations

committee. back in the day when richard lugar was the republican chair and working with the ranking member joe biden or with john kerry chairing it or biden chairing it, back in previous years there would have been hearings by now on what the heck is going on at the state department, whether it was a republican or a democratic president, to have rudy giuliani running around and running foreign policy, mike pompeo covering up for the president, there's no other way to describe it, yet has anyone, have you been asking your chair to hold public hearings? >> well, listen, i asked chairman risch, the chairman of the foreign relations committee back in may, to conduct an investigation into rudy giuliani's shadow foreign policy. we all knew something was really amiss in and around ukraine back in the spring. there have been requests to the chairman for months now to try to get to the bottom of all of this.

as you mentioned, nobody around the world is going to ally themselves with the united states, is going to partner with us in fights against dictatorships and terrorism if they think they'll get pulled into u.s. domestic parents as the ukrainians did or they'll be double crossed as trump did to the kurds. there's a meltdown of american credibility around the world which is of course an important topic for the senate foreign relations committee to talk about yet we're doing nothing. this week the senate foreign relations committee will have no hearings. we will have no questions about what is happening. at least the house is going forward, i'm glad they're taking their responsibilities seriously. you're right, there are important nonpolitical questions about how american foreign policy is falling apart under this trump administration that our committee in the senate should be considering. >> and what about one of your colleagues, rand paul, calling for the whistle-blower to be outed, now don junior has released a name they purport to

be the whistle-blower. whether or not it's illegal, what about whistle-blower protections and the chilling effect on others, for a senator, rand paul to be doing this? >> it's absolutely disgusting what republicans are doing to try to out the name and the identity of this whistle-blower. for a long time republicans and democrats agreed on a simple fact that if you are blowing the when i felt on government corruption we should protect you. and what republicans are saying is it's okay, if you're blowing the whistle on a democratic administration but if you blow the when i feistle on a republi administration, we're coming after you. nobody asks questions about who called in the fire department when you see the fire in front of your eyes. this whistle-blower testified to a corruption scheme that now

trump administration officials by the dozen have testified to as well. so this is just a smear campaign. it's an effort for republicans to try to distract the country from all of this evidence that is piling up to tell this clear story of a president who is using american taxpayer dollars as leverage to try to get a foreign country to interfere in american politics. >> mike pompeo left for germany today, and on his plane was his top counselor, ulrich brechbuhl, who was supposed to be testifying today but didn't show up. the secretary of state has been opposing and blocking release of documents to his committee. at the same time, his hometown newspaper is criticizing his repeated trips to kansas, political interviews there. at what point does the hatch act get violated by the secretary of

state who is denying it but it clearly considering some kind of political run in his future? >> i mean, secretary pompeo has made it clear he's not running for the united states senate. i have frankly not paid a lot of attention to his travel back to kansas, that is still his home and he probably should have the ability and the right to be able to go home and see family and friends and perhaps even political supporters. >> even the hometown newspaper is asking in an editorial, what is your job, because you're here so often and doing interviews with local outlets so often. >> there certainly is enough work for him to be doing outside of kansas. i guess i just haven't been briefed about all the travel he's done there. he's got crises all over the world he's trying to put out. there are plenty of places that need american leadership that don't have it today, clearly we would be better served if he was in washington or around the world trying to help address this foreign policy nightmare

that has been constructed by his boss. >> and do you think he should be cooperating with the inquiry? he seems to be -- he was on the call with zelensky, wouldn't acknowledge it at first, is saying that it was, you know, a good call as the president said, that there were no, you know, no pressure on the ukrainians and is withholding all these documents from the committee and telling his people not to testify. they've been ignoring him but he's been telling him not to and one of them is on his plane today going to germany. >> secretary pompeo's conduct with respect to the impeachment inquiry has been unacceptable and indefensible. not only is he not cooperating, not providing documents that are required by law, but he is also part of this conspiracy theory machine. the secretary of state has gone on national tv and suggested it was actually joe biden who was interfering in elections abroad. so he has become just a cog in the president's political

machine. he has allowed the state department to become an appendage of the president's reelection he was. and that unfortunately will be a big part of the secretary's legacy. i wish that he would recognize that and change course. >> senator chris murphy, thanks as always. thanks for being with us today. >> thanks. and coming up, kentucky blue. the trump-backed republican governor of the state, matt bevin, refusing to concede today as nbc calls his democratic rival the, quote, apparent winner of a very close race. steve kornacki at the big board coming up next. stay with us. big board coming up next stay with us high protein. low sugar. tastes great! high protein. low sugar. so good! high protein. low sugar. mmmm, birthday cake! pure protein. the best combination for every fitness routine.

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if you lose it sends a really bad message. they'll say trump suffered the greatest defeat in the world. this was the greatest. you can't let that happen to me. >> well, it did happen. democrat andy beshear is the

apparent winner in the governor's race, a close race in kentucky, a state that the president won in 2016 by 30 points, beshear beating republican matt bevin despite a trump rally on election eve which may in fact have turned out democratic votes, backfiring. governor-elect beshear spoke about his opponent's refusal to concede. >> the election ended and it's time to move forward with a smooth transition. whatever process the governor chooses to go down, it won't change the overall number of votes. we'll take the steps to move forward to make sure we are ready. >> joining me now, nbc's vaughn hillyard in louisville, kentucky, steve kornacki at the big board, elise jordan, former

white house aide to george w. bush, and nera haera tanden, a r senior adviser to barack obama and hillary clinton. vaughn, you are on fire last night, man, you are so much into this and your reporting was so great on all the late shows. >> reporter: thank you. >> i'm just saying, it was really something to see. >> reporter: there was a lot going on, there wit was a big r. >> does the governor have a leg to stand on? >> reporter: there is talk, this is the place, andrea, that donald trump won by 30 percentage points, so there was a lot of hype in the room. everybody knew it was a possibility but to become reality was a different story. not only did the suburbs show up, the urban corridors showed up, but also eastern kentucky. we're talking about coal country. for the democrats in the state, this was a big deal because

everything worked out perfectly. matt bevin to date, high noon now, still has not announced he would be conceding. he would have to take it to court to get a recount. the governor-elect beshear said he has still not received a phone call. you heard president trump on election day coming to town to shore up support for the republican incumbent in this race. you saw trump's twitter feed last night where he was suggesting he actually helped matt bevin by 15 or 20 percentage points and andy beshear, the democrat who won last night, was asked that a few moments ago and he chuckled, suggesting he had not seen the poll donald trump is talking about, andrea. >> thank you, vaughn. steve kornacki, it was fascinating, your coverage last night, teaming up with vaughn and everyone else, the facts of how that came in, and where the votes shifted, is it a tell for

the future? >> it's an interesting question. there are two big places to key in on in terms of votes shifting. one, we've been talking about these three counties, northern kentucky, right across the ohio river from cincinnati. these are the cincinnati suburbs here. they produce a lot of votes, a lot of population there, and typically these are republican counties. they had a big shift last night away from bevin. you can see campbell county, bevin lost this by six points when he was running a couple of years ago the first time. bevin carried that county by ten. in kenton county, bevin lost, he had won it last time around. big drops in the suburbs away from bevin. the question is, in terms of national implications, national significance, is this part of that national story we've been seeing elsewhere about suburbs moving away from the republican

party of donald trump and moving towards democrats or is there more bevin-specific. the reason that's an open question right now is there were five other races on the ballot in kentucky, five other republicans not named matt bevin won last night. they all carried these three counties by much more sort of the normal margin you would expect of a republican. the suburban flight away from bevin did not extend to the rest of the ticket. i think that's why it's an open question in terms of national significance. vaughn mentioned another big area of vote switching, coal country, the blue counties you see in the eastern part. take this county. andy beshear won, small rural county, eastern kentucky, beshear won it by ten points, as dramatic a departure as you'll find from the 2016 results in kentucky. look at this, in 2016 trump won this county by 52 points, last night bevin lost it by ten, a 62-point swing between 2016 and

last night. examples like that abound in this part of the state. still you've got a lot of people who identify with the democratic party. they're rural, they're blue collar, they're culturally conservative, they still call themselves democrats, there are still local democrat parties but nationally they've gravitated towards the republican party or donald trump. the big part of the purpose of trump coming into kentucky on the eve of the election was to get the attention of voters like this, voters in places who just overwhelmingly backed trump in 2016, try to get them enthusiastic for bevin. bevin got a little bit of the way there but he needed more voters in that area. when beshear gets this many votes, he needed everything to break his way and it did. >> there was the teacher strike, and they really turned out for beshear. the aca, obamacare, the waivers

were on the ballot. >> absolutely, bevin really worked to undo the work of steve beshear, a southern governor -- >> andy beshear's father. >> andy beshear's father. he had a very good program but also did a medicaid expansion into kentucky. bevin worked to undo that. that was a central issue. in those counties, this is a big question for democrats, in those counties can they get back some voters on kitchen table issues. even in the midterms, democrats did better in rural counties, significantly in many states really focusing on aca expansion and issues like teacher pay, very kitchen table issues. i think there are important lessons to take away. the other thing i could say, again, is, bevin was uniquely unpopular. he was a very polarizing figure who worked to take away health care benefits and go after teachers. not so dissimilar from how a lot

of people see donald trump. >> and elise jordan, in your home state of mississippi, if i'm correct that that's your home state, there was a very different result, because the republican won handily and that was more true to what conventional wisdom would dictate. >> the contrast and the similarities between the race in kentucky really just stand out to me, because matt bevin was pretty unpopular but also, i don't think i've ever heard even a republican with that much enthusiasm as tate reed in mississippi. mississippi was a very predictable election environment, and you see rural counties going for trump and you see the mini suburbs, i'll call them mini suburb places, not going as much for hood as they actually needed to make the shift.

contrast that with kentucky and you see where those suburban voters are really going dem. you look at the implications and i can't help but wonder if suburban voters have started to very much exit the republican party. >> and then we saw a dramatic result in virginia just across the river here. steve kornacki, the first time in two decades both houses going democratic. is virginia blue? >> here we go -- that's the wrong one. here is what i wanted to show you. last night state and legislative elections in virginia there. so republicans had a narrow advantage in the house of delegates heading into last night. democrats, there are still some seats to be counted, democrats now have a majority, they have 53 with a few more to come in, so they'll get control there. state senate, republicans had a very narrow majority heading into last night. democrats have picked up two. so again, a majority there. democrats now have the governorship, they have both houses of the legislature, they

have the lieutenant governor's job, they have the attorney general's job. this is part of a bigger story of the evolution, transformation of virginia politically. these are presidential election results. remember, this is from 1968 on. virginia used to be a safely red state, a safely republican state. remember, in 2008, with barack obama, it became a swing state. he won it. his margin in virginia was the same as his national margin. same in 2012, it looked like a bellwether state, a swing state. but in 2016, hillary clinton lost it. you have a story here of a republican bastion to swing state to blue state. >> despite the blackface scandal with the democratic governor, it seems like the democratic party has moved past that for now, because they didn't have a democratic governor or

lieutenant governor exchange, they were on their own in these local races. thanks to all. and coming up, act of courage. former defense secretary and republican congressman william cohen went against his own party backing the impeachment of richard nixon. his take on what republicans are doing now during the trump impeachment proceedings. that's next right here on "andrea mitchell reports." a mih" nice rock. it's time to drop gold. go digital. go grayscale. hello is friendly... hello is open... it's welcoming... everything we want to be when helping people find a medicare plan. so if you're looking for yours, say hello to hellomedicare... ...a one-stop shop for medicare plans, including medicare advantage and part d prescription drugs...

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let me say it's not a happy occasion for me or for any of us here. we're not without our failings, without our weaknesses. so we're not entirely free to cast stones, that expression has been used. so i will not pass any judgment upon the president personally. but even though we're not without blemishes or human frailties, that must not prevent us from meeting our responsibilities to pass judgment on our elected leaders. >> that was in july of 1974. he was a freshman congressman from maine, william cohen, on the judiciary committee, on the house committee during the watergate hearings. the maine republican was one of very few in his party to support

impeaching president nixon at the committee level. he served as secretary of defense to president clinton and was for many years a senator from maine. >> it's cruel and unusual punishment to run that clip. >> no, it's great, there you are being a hero. when they actually had a later vote in the house, republicans did join democrats in voting against nixon. there were only four votes with nixon on the house side. it never got to the senate because the president was persuaded he should resign, famously on august 9th, 1974. a lot has been made by republicans this year that this is all being done in secret, that it's a different process. it's a different process because there was no investigation, there was no grand jury, there was no special prosecutor. so the house democrats joined by republicans, have been in there closed sessions taking depositions in lieu of an and prosecutor. >> right. going back even, during

watergate days, in the senate watergate committee, i was on a podium recently with john dean whom i had never met. i had questioned him during the impeachment. i had never met him. we were on the podium together. and he alerted me that there were private hearings before the watergate committee went public with howard baker and sam ervin and others, that he had been meeting with the investigators for hours and days prior to that time. >> they had been taking testimony. >> they were taking testimony before they ever went public. and then when it came over to the senate, we held all of our hearings in private. we did not have a public hearing other than to announce a vote, whether or not we were going to send president nixon another request for the tapes as opposed to the edited transcripts. but we had everything behind closed doors and then we would make a recommendation to the committee to make a recommendation to the full house. so i think we're seeing a hybrid

right now, that the house has been forced to have some meetings in private to gather information and then go public so that the american people can see exactly what has been done in the name of the president. >> they've been going public with hearings, one of the reasons they kept the hearings private was precisely because they felt energy secretary perry, for instance, did a big interview to "the wall street journal" to telegraph to potential witnesses what he would say. we've seen gordon sondland, a key witness, changing his testimony perhaps to prevent some sort of action against him because his was an outlier, it disagreed with everybody else, fiona hill and other people. >> sure. i spent, in my time as a private lawyer, i spent three years prosecuting criminal cases and three years defending criminal cases. and then in the house and in the senate especially, i spent 18 years on the subcommittee, the permanent subcommittee on investigations, investigating

criminal activity where we had to segregate out witnesses who would come, to make sure that the witnesses could not get together and align their stories. so this is fundamental to making sure your getting the truth. if you allow them to coordinate their testimony, they're likely to have the same story. i think that adam schiff, congressman schiff, was absolutely correct in segregating them out. we're going to do this privately initial initially, and once we get facts that we think are factual and not simply supposition, we'll go public and the public will have the chance to judge the credibility of the witnesses we're handwritirelying on. >> what do you make of senator lindsey graham saying he's not going to read the transcripts of the hearings because it's all a crock? >> it's disappointing. it's like president trump saying, i know everything i need to know, i know more than the intelligence committee, i know more than the generals. i've always believed facts

count. something that's fundamental to this whole notion of presidential power, if you go back to the founding fathers, what they said was, somebody must be entrusted with power but nobody can be trusted with power. that is the reason they set up the separation of powers, to make sure that those to whom we hand the scepter of power will not abuse it or cannot abuse it without a check and balance. and so this is what the check and balance is, the congress of the united states saying, mr. president, this activity that you are alleged to have engaged in, we believe that is contrary, is totally antithetical to the standards upon which the president must conduct himself and we intend to hold you accountable for it. that's fundamental to our constitutional system. >> do you have a view on the argument by many republicans now that the pressure on zelensky, the ukrainian, withholding of military aid, everything that's laid out in not only the whistle-blower's report but in

the partial transcript, is acknowledged, that those facts have now been supported in great detail by many of these witnesses, that that is not an impeachable offense, that it's not illegal, and impeachment doesn't have to be illegal, it's not a criminal test, it's a political test, but that it is not an impeachable offense? >> number one, i think it is illegal. i think it constitutes a bribe. if you just said, mr. president of ukraine, i need a favor, well, if that favor was to start conducting their business in a more ethical fashion, that would be legitimate. it's completely illegal to seek a personal favor that benefits you politically. that in itself is an illegal act, in my judgment. then to engage in withholding $400 million of aid unless he agreed to investigate not corruption in general but allegations of corruption against joe biden, his potential

opponent, that to me is extortion and/or bribery because you are bribing an official of another country, give me that information, i have something you need, you have something i want, and if you give me what i want, you'll get the money. that to me is just a classic case of a criminal act. >> how much pressure did the nixon white house put on you, then a freshman on the house judiciary committee? >> it was pretty intense. the country was deeply divided, as it is now. there were bomb threats that were carried out against committee hearings, personal threats against me and my family. there was a lot of pressure. and there was the internal pressure on the part of the republican party. they said, look, we have to support our president. i recall going to the white house in which there was a gathering, we all had to attend, and president nixon said, i may be an s.o.b. but i'm your s.o.b. and of course that was a presidential rally of its own.

and i felt, mr. president, i supported you, i voted for you, but i can't be with you when you engage in conduct of paying hush money to silence witnesses to encourage the subordination of perjury, to withhold testimony, to fabricate information, to invite the cia to obstruct the fbi's investigation. no. i would be with you but not under these circumstances. i'm with the constitution, the american people, and with the people of maine, obviously. >> very briefly, are you still a republican? >> i am. i am not a trump republican. i am an eisenhower, bob dole, howard baker, warren ruddman, jack danforth type of republican. >> william cohen, it's great to see you. thank you so much. we'll be right back. coming up, search for answers. mexican officials arrest a suspect in connection with that horrific ambush. stay with us. h us as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks i can get. line? liberty mutual customizes your car

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she has things that are not realistic. but when you question it, she talks about as what you just don't understand. a talking point that's refuse backwoods i the other party. it is not by us. it is not who we are. either my way or the highway.

>> joe biden on sirius xm this morning. he portrayed her as an elitism. joining us now with our inside scoop, anne gearan and sam. sam, first a shot at this, he's really getting personal. he's going after her with the overall funding. it is a big target. >> there is a deficit. there is also a little bit of failing in calling her elitist. it is a charge against warren. she obviously won that one. it does not make too much sense

optically because you have joe biden doing these big fundraisers and she's for going those so i don't think it plays that well. clearly he's trying to engage her directly and this back and forth. >> she did transfer money over to her senate campaign. she had a good chunk of chain starting up. >> yeah, they are different runners. they had some tied at 23% and bernie is right behind which is statistically and insignificant. the top of the race is crystallizing at least for now. what biden appears to be doing is try to go at the heart of her support assort of a plan. the little guy the middle class.

that's the ground that he helped to compete on. he sees her taking parts of it. he's going to try to knock her off. >> these two have a history back when she was a consumer advocate. they have compete inside the past of who's the best advocate. >> delaware is where all of these companies set up their headquarters. >> and she's a hard professor. >> exactly. >> how do we see this now in iowa? warren has much better roots on the ground. pete buttigieg is climbing up. biden is slipping.

he came in fourth. >> by the widen in a position n he's not moving forward, he's moving back. warren stays at this point and he can not. >> this is about getting people to show up to caucus. the three campaigns that have money are pete buttigieg, warren and bernie. joe biden's campaign is bleeding cash and spending more than they were taking in. i don't see how they fund an operation in iowa and infusion cash. >> and they'll go to new hampshire where bernie and warren have home court advantage. >> yeah. >> i would not count out biden's advantage of time there, too. he's a well-known commodity, as known as they are nationally. it is getting very good.

>> anne gearan and sam stein. >> we'll be right back. sam sten >> we'll be right back the game doesn't end after that insane buzzer beater.

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thank you for being with us. follow our show online and facebook and twitter @mitchell report, here are ali and velshi for "velshi & ruhle." >> hello everyone, it is wednesday, november the 6th. coming up, we are watching major developments. we know when those public hearings are going to begin as we await new transcripts from key witnesses. we'll speak with virginia senator, mark warner. >> election results are in and democrats picked up some major wins in key states. we'll tell you what it means for 2020. more of that massacre in mexico. >> we got the latest. we are going to begin this afternoon with the impeachment inquiry, adam schiff has announced next week the house will begin open