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bloomberg is jumping into the crowded 2020 field. the former new york mayor is announcing his bid for president today. this is a look at the bloomberg 2020 campaign website and earlier today he put out the first message to the american voters in the presidential announcement video, and here is a piece of that. >> and now, he is seeing a different kind of menace coming from washington, and so there is no stopping here. there is an america waiting to be rebuilt where everyone without health insurance is guaranteed to get it, and everybody who likes theirs can go ahead to keep it. where the wealthy are going to pay more in taxes and the struggling middle-class are going to get their fair share in jobs that just allow you to get by will be jobs that allow you to get ahead. mike bloomberg for president. the jobs creator and leader, and problem solver. it is going to take all three to build back a country. >> joining me now with the exclusive report on this breaking news is stephanie ruhle

who is joining me on set and ali vatali from new hampshire. and stephanie, so glad you are here to break us the news and bring it to us. you spoke exclusively with bloomberg's communications director and what did he tell you about the timing and why now and the goal? >> i know. i know the team well. before i joined the team, i worked with bloomberg news. i spoke with the communications manager and as far as why now, it is easy for us to say and traditionalists to say way too late, but in their mind they say look at the 18 early voting states and only one-third of the voters according to a recent cbs poll have decided who they will vote for. and jason schacter went on the say, why are you are not doing the caucuses, and he siing that is the way to do it from a fund-raising perspective, but mike is entirely self-funding. remember that president trump said that he was self-funding,

but he never was. and mike is not taking a single contribution, and he didn't when he was mayor and running a national campaign straight out of the gate. >> and so you were told that mike bloomberg is deeply troubled by this presidency and also by the democratic field. why is that? >> he believes any of the democrats running would be a better president than donald trump, and he said that to me in an interview in august and his team said it to me last night, the issue for him is in watching this primary, he is not seeing a single candidate who he thinks at this point can beat trump. he does not see a candidate who can pull the tent together, and you might say, a billionaire just walking in now thinks they can? well, mike believes that his record in terms of philanthropy and business and government is different from others, and in that ad he said, yes, i think that every person should get medicare and it does not need to be medicare for all, but he wants to help the coal workers, but not getting those jobs back,

because they don't work for the environment or business. >> is he anti-trump or warren? because the business establishment, and wall street has not necessarily been a big fan of elizabeth warren, and so elizabeth warren, and is he getting that from his colleagues there on wall street, and those who say that she who is doing very well right now can't be president, can't be at least the democratic nominee? >> again, this is not me opining, but this is from team bloomberg and mike versus elizabeth warren, and mike bloomberg believes that our country cannot handle another four years of donald trump, and he will spend any amount of time and money to get him out of office. and it is not about wall street colleagues, because they don't want their taxes up. when he was mayor of new york, he did raise the taxes, and right there in the ad he may be saying that her wealth tax does not work, but he is not against raising taxes, and his argument around those who are saying that he is buying the election, and he says, i am not raising any mo

near from the special interest groups or any big donor waiting in the wings asking when are you paying me back, and he is doing for it american people, and the count ser that he has sat in office for three term, and it is my way or the highway and so he is out on the campaign trail tomorrow. >> and what about the research they have done, because they are seeing daylight and opening for him? >> they do. and as far as the research goes, bloomberg is a data and analytic person, but there is nobody who has taken a path like this. who knows. they clearly think they have a path, but only time will tell. >> any word about the four early state voting states that they say we will bypass those right away, because you were talking about 18 states that he looked at and if there is trouble here, aren't there those among them? >> yes, but to focus on the caucuses, mike, and this is a big bet on the super tuesday and already this morning people are saying, hold on a second, don't

you run a news organization. and then mike isn't, you know, he is not selling the news organization, and really at a time in the history when the president considers the media the enemy of the people, and now the person who owns a news organization that he is distancing himself from when he was mayor, but things are a lot different today, and the answer today about what he will do with bloomberg news if he makes it further than this, it is not going to last. it won't work. >> and he is talk about he who would calculate much differently if he were running today than if he did. and let's bring in ali. and i know that you co-wrote this piece for nbc news.com, and so tell us about the voters reacting to the bloomberg or clearly not defined frontrunner and they say, yeah, there is room for him to get in? >> well, alex, i have heard the same consternation in democratic circles of how they have seen

the field shaking out, and there are those donors and others who have seen joe biden sagging and elizabeth warren has surged in the summer, and bernie has main thaned the support, and those are the people who are saying that ploom beg could occupy the lane, and be another option in the joe biden moderate lane of the race, but that being said, a lot of the members of the campaign are saying that democratic voters are undecided and it is true, but at the same time other polls show that the democratic voters are satisfied with the field they have, they are not necessarily clamoring for more options. i have heard that from voters in my travels in the course of the last few months, but what is important is that while the bloomberg team is pointing to the fact that the voters are undecided at this point, they are not the only candidate in this race who are pointing to this as the path to victory, and you have amy klobuchar and andrew yang and others saying it is early and we have time to

make inroads with the voters on the ground and what those campaigns have that bloomberg doesn't is that they have been running for several months, and what he has that they don't, is that he doesn't have to worry about the money, and he has as much as he wants to spend for as long as he wants to. >> and what about the other candidates and what they are saying? >> well, alex a long time to go back and forth over this, because over the course of the past few weeks, we have been talk about bloomberg is kind of sort of running for president, be today, officially making the run, and so the candidates have been outspoken about it on the campaign trail. listen. >> i saw your tweet about mayor bloomberg's ad buy the most of any presidential candidate ever, and in your mind is he a candidate? is he already running? >> i don't know. i do know this, that the elections should not be for sale and not to billionaires and not the corporate executives, and we need to build a grass roots movement, and that is how democracy is to work.

>> mr. bloomberg has very little grass roots support, but he has decided because he is worth $55 billion that he can run for president of the united states. >> you know, listen, we have to get the money out of politics. let me just be honest with you. i have to raise a ton of money to be competitive and some people started the race with $10 million. >> money will not win this election. connecting with people will. >> to me, politically, alex, there is a few ways that this didn't shake out. and bloomberg could take the pressure off of joe biden in using the money to go after am sof the progressives in the race like elizabeth warren and bernie sanders who have shown a willingness to spar with bloomberg and not holding back as you saw in the clip, but the other way is that he is a perfect foil for them, so as i am out here on the campaign trail, i am looking for the ways it is shaking out now that it is

official that he is in the race. >> thank you, ali. and stephanie, give me your perspective on this, and we heard money, money, money, the concerns of the democratic candidates. do you think that the candidates are more opposed to mike bloomberg, his policy, his ideas, what he would implement or the fact that he can bury them with his money as he has proceeds in the campaign? >> well, at this point, the one thing that of all of the candidates that mike has that is different from everyone else is his money. so looking at president trump, and whether he has the money or not, and we know that he has a huge amount of money, president trump has the distinct ability to control the media. you have not seen any democrat be able to do that and it is effective, and now you have someone running who can buy an enormous amount of it. and that is a huge threat. >> yeah, okay. stephanie ruhle, thank you nor overtime here on the sunday, and ali vitali with you out there in the field. and more analysis, joining us

chris liu and susan dell persio. and what is your reaction >> i think that he can do this. he has great credibility on two key issues for democrats gun safety and climate change. his money has helped the democrats in 2018, and in virginia take back both to house and the senate, and unlike, you know, tom stire and howard schultz, he has experience in the office. and so it is not conceivable that you could have three or four different candidates to win the early states and go into the super states of california, texas and virginia and depleted of the resources and a bloomberg to come in to buy up a lot of ads at this time. so certainly, obstacles to overcome with the progressive base and african-americans, but he is an intriguing candidate for a lot of people.

>> susan, your thoughts? >> he is going to be an intriguing candidate and it makes sense to skip the early lates, because he won't do well entering so late in iowa, new hampshire and south carolina and nevada. but it makes sense for him to enter the way he is doing it and run a national campaign as steph was talking about. he has the resources, and talking about 40% of the delegates being decide on march 3rd. so they have a path in their mind that works. mike bloomberg and the people around him do not enter a situation like this without a plan. and back in 2001, i remember very clearly how everyone said that mike bloomberg can't win, and it wasn't just because of 9/11 that he won. he did a lot of things, and ran a very smart campaign. you can have a lot of money and run a bad campaign. that is not what mike bloomberg is going to do, and to follow up on chris's point about gun safety and climate, and he has not only put many knee into

those issues, but he has built networks up with those issues, and he has thousands is of people that he can reach out to, and that support him on the mayoral level which he has invested in helping, and there was a program that he set up, go, about eight years ago to help mayors and basically created a network around that. so i would not certainly underestimate him not just in the tv ads, but on technology where he won in 2001, and i think that he will do it again on social media. >> and sue sarngs i wanted to ask you, that you are a republican strategist and you are in new york city, and worked in new york city politics and this man won and served as mayor in new york as a republican, and now he is running as a democrat. how does that sync up? >> well, he ran as a republican twice, and then as an independent the third time i believe. or he changed the party registration in his third term to be an independent. as republicans, i remember very clearly a lot of republicans saying that he is not a republican. and he is just using the party,

and that not necessarily unlike donald trump what he did when he ran for president. in this case, i think that the values that michael bloomberg has lines up with the values of the democratic party just as when he was a republican, he ran as a very moderate republican, and good on the social issues or socially liberal if you will, and he had fiscal responsibility. and leadership. that is the other thing, he has run a big business, and he has run the largest city in the country. >> chris. what about potentially angering democrats? i mean, you worked for barack obama, and is this someone who our former president could get behind and support? >> well, look, president obama has said that he will support any democrat, and it is important as all democrats believe that we need to get donald trump out of office, and i believe that bloomberg faces a potential backlash from base. and the idea of skipping the first four early states and while i understand it is about math, it may not be the best

political calculation, and for instance new hampshire who allows independents and others to get in, is a state for him to see if he could make a difference, because while he has run for mayor and been successful, running for president is significantly different. it is going to require you to engage in voter outreach that is not just money. but we learned in 2016, a different way of running for president. that is what donald trump did. he didn't do the coffeehouse meetings or the town hall events, but he did big events. so maybe he is seeing the way that donald trump did it and saying this is the way i can do it. >> but, chris, he is billionaire, and there are those who are going to be saying he can buy the race, and the cri c critics are going to say, that and particularly the likes of elizabeth warren and bernie sanders and the followers of the grass roots-minded ideology and

is that going to hurt him? >> well, one thing they will say, it is easier when running for president when you are on the outside than the inside doing it. that is something that tom stir hstire has found out no amount of money will vault you into that tier. but it is good to have a spirited contest, and anyone who wants to run should be able to run, and a candidate without a lot of money, should have to go up against a candidate who has a lot of money, because that is where the democratic nominee going to be next summer and fall. they will be facing a president who is going to outmatch them in terms of money. so if you have a convincing message and the organization, you can overcome to money. thank you, chris and susan. thank you for weighing in on that. we will talk impeachment and the overwhelming evidence talked about on the sunday talk shows and also former california congresswoman katie hill is going to join us and get new

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20 past the hour with this breaking news and it is good news. nbc justice correspondent pete williams has confirmed that the supreme court justice ruth bader ginsberg has been released from the johns hopkins hospital. she was given fluids and despite the health care, the 86-year-old

ginsberg has vowed to stay on the job as long as she can, and we welcome that. welcome home, madam ginsberg. and so now, after two weeks of explosive open hearings in the impeachment against president trump, adam schiff is calling the amount of evidence overwhelming. >> the facts are not really contested. it is not contested what the president did. what is open to question is whether members of congress are going to do their duty. >> well, this is coming as the house democrats are weighing the next decisions and inching towards a decision of whether to draw articles of impeachment. >> we are getting close to make a conclusion here, and if proven any president republican or democrat should leverage their office to have another government cheat our elections. >> meanwhile, the republicans are not backing down and standing firmly behind the president. >> well, they are writing the rules as they go, maria. adam schiff has made it up and as you know the intelligence committee does not have

jurisdiction over the impeachment proceedings and so this is unprecedent and a power grab by adam schiff. >> and others are bracing for a lengthy senate trial. >> i think that there will be a trial and if it takes a long time, you know, i was sent to the senate to be a senator, and i don't mind sitting there as long as it takes. >> and joining me liz goodwin, deputy bureau chief of "boston globe" and charlie savage, the correspondent of "the new york times" and msnbc contributor. okay. guys, start right now, as i thank you for being here where things stand on both sides of the aisle. how are, liz, the democrats and the republicans preparing for the second phase of the process, and who do you think is feeling more bolstered and hasn't mitch mcconnell suggested that he wants to keep any trial to two weeks in length? >> yeah. so the second phase of the process first is going to go over to the judiciary committee, and we will finally see what articles of impeachment the democrats have decided on. and i think that going into that, the democrats feel like they have a strong hand, you

know, in terms of the hearings, they actually got some new revelations that they were not expecting to get out of them like the official who came forward and said that he had overheard the call between president trump and gordon sondland and then sondland's testimony was far better for democrats than anyone could have expected. when asked about the quid pro quo, he said yes. so nobody expected that. then on the other hand, there was polling that came out that suggested that independents were souring on the impeachment inquiry a little bit. it is only one poll and could be an outlier, but that is encouraging the democrats' feeling that they want to do it fast and quickly and that is where we are right now. >> and now, a listen to something else that congressman schiff had to say. >> i thought it was notable

about sondland's testimony, that he was not even as interested in the investigations as the announcement of the investigations. that is meaning that it is not about the corruption, but the re-election of the campaign. >> and what about do you think about that, charlie, announcing investigations without necessarily carrying it out? >> i have written that is a crucial nuance in the constellation of evidence here. it is going to how do you interpret president trump's motive. was he genuinely thinking that this particular company in ukraine really needed someone to look at it to make sure that nothing bad happened or looking for a public basis by which he could say joe biden is corrupt, corrupt, and corrupt, corrupt, corrupt and biden, biden and the way he said crooked hillary the way he did a million times in the 2016 election. the counter e part of that is

whether he could back them into the corruption, but the only to decide this is the truth. >> and congressman schiff appeared to lay the groundwork for the articles of impeachment, and let's play what he said on that. >> there is a sense of urgency when you have a president who is threatening the integrity of the elections that we need to act now if we are going to act and we can't allow this obstruction to succeed. the case of the ukraine misconduct is iron clad, but so is the case of the president's obstruction of congress. >> so a couple of articles potentially, the obstruction and the abuse of power. are those the ones rising to the top when you hear the talk from the democrats of what articles of impeachment they might pursue? >> if you are asking me. >> go ahead, charlie and then liz. >> well, definitely going to be an article put forward on abuse of power and definitely an

article on obstruction of congress. and the democrats will probably add a third article on obstructing the mueller investigation and lying to mueller and trying to disrupt mueller investigation and that is the still open question there, but the other two are absolutely going to be put forward. >> do you agree with that, liz, those two for sure, and possibly a third? any more than that or possible to focus one and put all of the energy behind the one singular item? >> we have heard a few congressmen bringing up the idea of witness tampering given the president's tweet to marie yovanovitch, and there is a debate among the caucus, but the leadership is wanting to keep it as simple as possible and laser focused on the ukraine inquiry. >> and what about the series of headlines recently suggesting that congress should take a separate course of action and that being to censuring the president, because it is apparent that the senate will

not impeachment him. are you hearing about that? >> i have not heard much about that, and i am not sure that the democrats want to take a step back on impeachment from what we have heard from them in the past couple of weeks. >> charlie, anything about that? because it could be be a somewhat less drastic measure and maybe something that some republicans could endorse? >> well, i agree with liz. that is not where this is heading and i don't see much sign of the republicans would go there, because their position has been that trump did absolutely nothing wrong here full stop. so the train is completely on the constitutional path of impeachment, and censureship is not in the constitution and not in the editorials that you hear about. >> and so now, charlie, anything that you hear them say that donald trump did not do this or the argument is well, yes, he did it, but it is not rising to the level of impeachment, and not that kind of offense?

>> well, i mean, the signs are that the republicans are going to stick with trump and put up a array of arguments that allow them to get past this difficult political moment, and hopefully without drawing the president's own fire, and if that is what he didn't do it or what he did is fine is coming down the individual lawmakers, but i am not predicting many defections. >> there is a politico piece that talks about the president increasingly taking the official business to the white house's executive residence as opposed to the oval office, and they say it is the place that trump feels the most productive and avoids meddling by the staff and speed dials the network of confidants and tv pundits and others. so is this notable or good or bad? >> it is notable, because it is another way of how he is conducting the presidency which is using huge amounts of

executive time and watching tv and tweeting about it. there is an odd note there where some senior official said that he does this, because he is a workaholic which is not figt of the other things that we know about him, but it is a place that he is retreating to the residence away from the staff and the professional staff that he may not trust increasingly as they are filing the whistle-blower complaints of what they overhear him saying. >> so, liz, this is where he did the july 25th phone call, and less interference with this president mean greater risk? >> less interference -- >> by the staffers. >> oh, so, yes, it is interesting that part of the reason why the article cites that he is retreating to the residence is to stop being monitored by staff who might be watching him for signs of misbehavior or misconduct, and in this case it did not work because so many people were

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and we have this breaking news on the embattled navy s.e.a.l. fighting to keep his rank in the elite unit with the support of the president. we go to white house correspondent hans nichols who is joining us about that. and what are you hearing? >> eddie gallagher is making his case on fox news and he was on at 7:30 and a lot of people may have found out about it, because the president tweeted, president donald trump trying to draw attention to this case. this is where we think that we stand, alex. there is a little bit of the stalemate after the thursday tweet where president donald trump strongly suggested that the navy should not take away his trident pin, but there is some who believed that the admiral considered resigning over this, and then there was a conversation where spencer thought that they had an

agreement where unless a formal order were issued, he would not take the president's tweet as a lawful order. of all of the talk of him addressing he addressed it at a conference in halifax, and have a listen. >> there are rumors out there that i threatened to resign. i have not threatened to resign. i am here and i work at the pleasure of the president. we have made great strides at the navy marine corps team in the last few years and there is a number of things to do, and i hope to contribute going forward. >> you may remember richard spencer, because for a time he was the acting secretary of defense, because he is senate confirm and a lot of operational and more importantly personnel matters that he has to deal with. now, when we get to what gallagher's case is, and number one, he is thankful to the president, but he is also accusing the entire, his entire chain of command of insubordination for not listening to what the president is saying. and so listening to him on fox

earlier today. >> i don't know how many times i have thanked the president to stepping in to do the right thing, and i wanted to let him know that the rest of the s.e.a.l. community is not about this right now. they all respect the president, and with the admiral and what he is doing is showing complete insubordination is not the good example of good order and discipline. >> and so what gallagher wants, alex, he wants to retire at the end of the month, and he wants to retire as a s.e.a.l. and the issue is if there is a review board that will decide to kick him out of the s.e.a.l.s. and he is going to retire with a little bit of the blemish on the record. and that is where it stands right now, and we need watch the president's twitter feed, but importantly note that if the president issues what the pentagon perceives is a lawful order and does something more formal than twitter how the pentagon then responds, alex. >> i wanted to be clear. is the president supportive of

this inkwoquiry going forward a allow it or put a stop to it or all trying to be ig if figured ? >> it is a stalemate and we don't know the president's next move if it is official or on twitter. we think we know what the pentagon thinks, but if the president is touting the interviews in the morning, we have not heard a presidential response to what gallagher said this morning and he is clearly asking for one more appeal, because remember the president commuted the sentence as well. >> he did indeed. okay. hans nichols, thank you for that. and we go back to the impeachment inquiry, and congressman devin nunes that liu par nas, the indicted associate of rudy giuliani says that he is ready to say that he met with a former ukrainian official about the bidens in 2018. oh, and that is definitely not what we were hoping to hear for

sure. all right. but we did set it up for you. and joining you right now is michael isikoff and natasha b bertrand for politico. and parnas is saying i have stuff to tell, and devin nunes went there after the election in 2018 and met with the top officials in ukraine, and nunes, we should say, michael, he has released a statement calling this reporting demonstrably false, but there was a talk about it. and he kind of circumvented exactly the question. he didn't answer it directly and claimed legal proceedings and the like and he did not address it directly, but what do you make of that, that he is not as forthright on fox news in an interview this morning as he has been in the statements? >> yeah, i mean. it is hard to say. i thought nunes did deny at least one of the claims that he

had met with parnas. and look. it is very hard to know what to make of parnas' allegations, and he has made a number of them and several of the people who he has implicated have denied the claims. i thought that it was interesting that chairman schiff this morning asked if he was prepared to question parnas as part of the committee's investigation, and he was weary, because he said that he wanted to see the documents first. parnas' lawyer is trying to make a bid for immunity, and i think that schiff wants to be cautious about giving parnas immunity until he has a better sense of what he is saying can be corroborated. >> let's take a listen, natasha to what congressman adam smith told my colleague joy reid yesterday. >> do you believe that this should be a matter for the ethics investigation regarding mr. nunes? >> quite likely without

question. >> so an ethics investigation, and what would that mean for devin nunes? >> well, it would be the second ethics investigation that nunes has undergone in just over two years, and recall the first ethics investigation was when he allegedly revealed classified information regarding the russia probe back in 2017 when he was discussing things like intercepts and things that had to do with the trump campaign and the fbi, and this is yet another mark essentially on his reputation. because it would mean that he has been sitting in the impeachment hearings accusing the ukrainians of interfering in the 2016 election, and not revealing that he allegedly, and he denies it now, but he was allegedly meeting with the former prosecutor trying to dig up dirt on joe biden to have an impact on the 2020 election, and obviously that would pose a

serious conflict of interests for the congressman, and he is the ranking member on the house intel committee, so i am not sure why our reporting does not bear out if this investigation is going to actually happen, but democrats are certainly looking into it, because it would seem to be a huge conflict for the congressman. >> and well, yeah. michael k you think about what might happen to nunes in terms of the impeachment inquiry if they find that, yeah, he did have that meeting? >> look, obviously, it is politically awkward for nunes to have been meeting with a guy who has now been indicted for illegal campaign contributions or conspiring to make them -- >> and that is on the face. >> on the face, but i am not sure that i see the ethics here for nunes. he is a member of the committee, and you know, if he says, look, i was trying to investigate various claims that are under scrutiny by the committee, and members on both sides have done that. you know, schiff's staff had communications with the

whistle-blower. there are efforts that committee members can make to further what they believe the facts are. i am not sure it adds up to an ethics issue for nunes or conflict of interest. >> and how about this. ought he to have said that he had this meeting if indeed it happened. should that have been revealed, michael? is that the main concern? >> well, certainly, it should have been revealed if he had the meeting, and that would have been in his best interests if only to preempt stories like this one. but we are dealing with a really uncertain set of facts here. and a guy whose under indictment making allegations whose credibility we don't know at this point. >> and natasha as we move to the next phase of impeachment, predict what we will see play out this week after the thanksgiving break? >> yeah, well. according to the reporting the

house intel committee, they have begun writing their report that they will send over to the judiciary committee to debate the final articles of impeachment of course, and they are apparently according to reporting from my colleague, they are considering whether or not they want to hold yet another public hearing regarding robert mueller's findings on obstruction of justice, because they are considering an article of impeachment of the mueller probe obstruction, and that is up in the air. we will be hearing potentially if don mcgahn, one of the mueller star witnesses will have to testify to congress which could set up a whole new element of this impeachment inquiry really. so right now, we have not heard for sure whether or not the house intel democrats are going to move forward with more public hearings, and they have begun drafting the report, but they are hoping to wrap it up by the end of the year so it will be to the senate for a trial by early january. >> okay.

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47 past, and breaking news. parts of pennsylvania with snow system that is moving towards the holiday weekend. looking at the road conditions in lancaster county. heavy rains brought slick conditions in alabama. and this is the short straw here from melissa who is at laguardia and seeing the slick conditions there. what about the big week ahead, janessa? >> well, alex, we are trying to brave the elements today and in storm one, it is not overwith and as you said, the slick spots will get worse as the temperatures are freezing over. and so this system is going to pull away and a lot of people

this morning were really caught off guard by the rain. we talked to a few. >> we are just glad to be going home today. >> so, we live in indiana, and so we won't be traveling over thanksgiving, but nervous to get out today. >> and we were not aware of the rain until we woke up this morning, but, yeah, we were somewhat concerned. >> i feel okay. i feel like everyone here is kind of used to it by now, and so it is a little bit crazy, but i feel like everybody is used to it by now. >> you know, they got lucky, because the rain is starting to pick up now, and also torrential rains are starting to happen in manhattan where we are dealing with the minor flooding, and alex, as you said, we have storm system two, and this is the timing of when it is going to happen. by tuesday morning and pulling out of the rockies to impact chicago which is a major hub tuesday into your thanksgiving

eve. it is starting as pulling apart, but the problem is that the winds are going to pick up in the northeast behind and that is storm system three, and that is going to impact los angeles to seattle. also, we are watching the big parade for thanksgiving day, and sustained winds for balloons to fly is up to a 23 miles per hour, and gusts up to 34. alex, right now, i am forecasting sustained winds to 25 potential of 35. so we are going to be watching that closely. >> yes, the entire country or at least most of it is getting hit one way or another. ja necessa janessa, thank you. and now coming up i will speak to katie hill about impeachment, and her recent resignation and what she regrets and what she is going to do next. coming up our way, al sharpton and presidential candidate kamala harris and you can catch cory booker tonight on

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challenging the facts of the case but advancing various explanations for the president's actions as testimony of the impeachment hearings entered week to. joining me now, tara, former diplomat and national security council official during the clinton administration. welcome to you. i know you have carried out many of the same duties as many of those witnesses. so, do you agree with that? is this a case of no harm, no foul? are the president's decisions beyond reproach? >> you know, this is very interesting. your earlier segment had the military story of the presidential pardon which reflects and similar on the civilian side to what we were seeing in the impeachment hearings. this question over power, who has it and how much power do we want the president to have? i think for america right now, this is about the president or the presidency. do you want a system where one person does everything or do we want a distributed power system

where advisers and people around the president have a say, have some sway? and your story about the president retreating to his own quarters was also, if you look at all of this, about do i want staff? do i want professionals? do i want advisers? or would i really like to do everybody's job? that's a bit of the wild, wild west, isn't it? >> it is. i wonder if you think americans fully understand what the president did and whether or not it was acceptable. do you think the case has been made and it's permeated the american psyche? >> you know, alex, what's difficult right now is that the word ukraine is becoming synonymous with impeachment. and i think we have to reframe this a bit. for foreign policy professionals, the way you frame this is about freedom. the ukrainian story is really

about ukrainians seeking to free themselves from the yoke of a dictatorial authoritarian russia. we have to bring people back, particularly at thanksgiving, about this debate about what kind of america we want. and look at the freedom house report, nonpartisan. people should look at it. it's about the erosion of freedom here. look at the global attitudes project. it's about how we are perceived now around the world. and i think we have to begin to connect all these dots and say, who are we? what do we, the people, expect of our leaders and what do we want our value and moral system of government to be? >> yeah. very, very sage comments there. i know that you've also expressed particular concern about a comment from bill taylor, the acting ambassador to

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good day, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt" day 62 of the impeachment inquiry. it's been a very busy morning on the sunday talk shows. here's a snapshot of what has transpired as we bring you the very latest. >> the facts are really not contested. it's really not contested what the president did. what is open to question is whether members of congress are going to do their duty. >> if it's proven, and i think we're at -- we're getting pretty close to making a conclusion here. if proven, i don't think any president, republican or democrat, should be able to leverage their office to have another government cheat our elections. >> everyone understood this was merely pressure to get the president's investigations. he wasn't even as interested in the investigations as he was the announcement of the investigations. this gives a whole lie to the idea this was about corruption. it wasn't. it was about the re-election campaign of the president.

>> when obaambassador sondland talking quid pro quo linking aid to investigations, he used words like presume and guess. >> all the senators, including our republican colleagues, are going to have to make this decision. this is the global version of watergate where a president is trying to get dirt on a political opponent from a world leader. that is basically what happened here. >> i think there will be articles of impeachment issued. i think there will be a trial. and i'm in favor of doing it in accordance with due process and let everybody offer whatever they want to in terms of evidence and bring whatever witnesses they want to. >> even as we compile this report, even as we submit evidence to the judiciary committee, we're going to continue with our investigation, but we are not going to let the administration stonewalling us stop us. >> we're going to now go to all the latest developments on the impeachment inquiry, as well as the democrats' battle for the white house with our team of

reporters and analysts. our first big headline this hour, law makers are now working to determine what's next for the impeachment inquiry. the house intelligence committee is working on a report that it will soon hand over to the judiciary committee, which will then determine whether to drop articles of impeachment. so, as you saw, intel chair adam schiff talking about impeachment and there's new reaction from the white house at this hour. that's why we go to nbc's kelly o'donnell at her post at the white house. good sunday to you, my friend. what's the message from there? >> there's a sort of weary expectation coming from the white house that they can see how things are playing out and the expectation among the president's allies is that it is likely that democrats in the house would move forward and would vote to impeach and then the question is, what happens on the senate side where republicans are in charge and where the rules are different and the sort of format of how things play out would be different. and so what we're hearing today, especially from counselor to the

president, kellyanne conway, is a prediction that the format will be different, the pressure will be different and her concern, as she expresses it, about really what will democrats in more trump-friend tli states have to deal with on the senate side. that's taking an expectation the house will do what it's likely to do based on all the evidence we have so far. and then a look-ahead as to what would happen in a senate trial. here's kellyanne conway. >> if it does go to a trial in the senate. that's not certain. you have a lot of democrats wringing their hands as they did not see or hear a moderate republican retiring this year said he did not see overwhelming clear and compelling evidence. if there's a senate trial, that will be more familiar to most americans. this process is unfamiliar to them -- >> there won't be witnesses? >> there could be witnesses. the president could have his own attorney in there. that's not very fair to the, quote, defendant. i think defense will go on

offense. >> you get a sense of the different tempo there. the white house does not want to presume that impeachment is a certainty but they understand the numbers, they understand the last couple of weeks of public testimony. and they're trying to put pressure where they can in areas where democrats might have a different home base constituency than what we've seen in the house where impeachment may not be as popular among voters and how that might reflect on senators. it will be a different dynamic if we get to that point. the white house is preparing and we've seen the president say, he doesn't like anything associated with impeachment reflecting on him. democrats are saying it's time to move forward and there will be a new set of rules if we get to that phase. and the president most notably would be able to have sore of his own narrative brought into it because republicans would be in charge and he would be able to put his own witnesses and defense in place, as kellyanne conway said, going on offense. there's still a lot of questions right now about the timing, how

quickly and are democrats in the house ready to wrap up their case. >> lots of questions. thanks for posing them. yell o'donnell, appreciate that. betsy swan from "the daily beast" and jeff from reuters, and abigail, a writer for "vanity fair." what do you make of kellyanne conway casting doubt on the impeachment moving to the senate? >> that's not the first time i've heard that from republicans in the last few days. i don't know what to make of it other than to say i think it's in the white house's interest to try to cast doubt on the process. they have done that this entire time. that's been one of their three-prong strategy to say, a, the president did nothing wrong, 3w67 b, the process is not fair, and, c, looking forward this is what they would expect in the next phase. i don't know how often kelly ann speaks to democrats. i'm not sure how she's able to

say there are democrats wringing their hands. they are looking, the republicans in the white house, looking forward to the kind of impact they would like to have on democrats in conservative districts that were won by president trump if this impeachment process continues. >> she does know the white house and the staffing there. she says that the white house is prepared in either case, whether or not it makes it to the senate. how is the white house gearing up for this? >> you know, i think they have added a couple staff members. they are talking -- spending a lot of time talking to republicans in congress trying to make sure they understand the talking points or the messaging from the white house and preparing in some of those same conversations what happens if and when this lands in the senate and flandz a trial. i spoke to a source that says they've had republicans over to the white house for movies in the east wing, they've had republicans to camp david and lunches on capitol hill. what sounds to me like a great

deal more outreach between the white house and capitol hill, the republicans on capitol hill, than there was at the beginning of this process. at the time it didn't even seem like the white house had much of a strategy. they're working much harder on that strategy now because it's gotten more serious. >> betsy, your reaction to what congressman eric swalwell said earlier, particularly when he said, if it's proven, evidence linking the president to withholding aid and investigations, don't democrats say it's already been proven? >> it is an interesting shift in rhetoric from someone who's a prominent face of this inquiry for democrats and there does seem to be a bit of miss tour in confidence level regarding democrats in congress regarding exactly how firm the links they believe exist between the white house and the pressure campaign directed. how firm and demonstrably firm those links are.

one thing ambassador sondland said was a confirm example of quid pro quo is the white house communicated to ukrainian president zelensky's administration that unless he announced he was investigating some of the president's political rivals, he wouldn't be able to have a meeting at the white house with president trump. a lot of the conversation about potential bribery attempts or quid pro quos has focused on the dollar figure of the military aid to the ukrainians, but at that point over the summer it was important to kiev that zelensky get a meeting in the white house with trump. i think we might be underestimating the extent to which securing a meeting was front of mind for zelensky's administration. and sondland now says that particular item they really, really wanted the president withheld explicitly because he wanted them to investigate the biden family. >> congressman schiff invoked a very interesting line from sondland's opening testimony and

the president's request from ukraine. let's take a listen. >> i thought this was notable about ambassador sondland's testimony. he wasn't even as interested in the investigations as he was the announcement of the investigations. that gives lie to the whole idea this was ever about corruption. it wasn't. it was about the re-election campaign of the president. >> can you comment on this, abigail, this point that congressman schiff is making? >> democrats have latched onto that aspect of sondland's testimony because it goes with their broader argument that this wasn't about corruption. this was about burisma specifically. when you say burisma you're really talking about the bidens. their argument is, the president wasn't actually interested in an investigation into burisma or into corruption more broadly. what he was interested in is benefiting himself politically in the u.s. one of the sort of takeaways from that aspect of the testimony is this idea that he doesn't want the investigations. he just wants the investigation

of the bidens. that's why they're latching onto it. they're painting it as this was an effort to benefit him politically. this was not about corruption at the end of the day at all. >> jeff, can you weigh in on this the process of being an investigation. >> it's a very good point. it goes to what the president was wanting in that conversation when he spoke to zelensky. if you look at how the president thinks, having something to show, a talking point, a moment like that might be more important than the actual substance of what comes out. i can't speak to whether that's what he was thinking or not but the testimony that the congressman cited would certainly indicate that. >> congressman schiff appeared to lay the groundwork for articles of impeachment. let's see what he said about that. >> there is a sense of urgency when you have a president threatening the integrity of our

elections that we need to act now if we're going to act and we can't allow this obstruction to succeed. the case in terms of the ukraine misconduct is iron clad but so is the case of the president's obstruction of the congress. >> so, betsy, democrats are still building, they say they haven't made the decision definitively on articles of impeachment, but is it safe to say abuse of power and obstruction are part of it? >> those two potential articles are absolutely in the mix in terms of what democrats are talking about as they decide how to put these articles of impeachment together. one person involved in this process, who we shouldn't overlook, is jerry nadler, who's the chairman of the house judiciary committee. at some point schiff is essentially going to pass the football, to use an autumnal metaphor, over to nadler and nadler will be responsible for the actual sort of legwork of drafting the language of the articles of impeachment. my expectation from talking to a number of democrats and

republicans, who have visibility into this process, is when nadler takes over, it's not likely that his committee will interview witnesses. so, as long as schiff's team believes they need to talk to more people as they expand the basket of facts available upon which to base these articles of impeachment, as long as they're still in fact-finding mode, i think it's premature to say without question what exactly those articles of impeachment are going to look like. >> stay with me because we have the second big headline this hour, breaking news as billionaire michael bloomberg is jumping into the crowded 2020 field officially. the former new york city mayor announcing the presidential bid today and starting tomorrow he'll be out on the campaign trail across the early voting states. so, panel, let's get to this one. betsy, i'll have you answer this one, how you think bloomberg will change up this field right now. do you see anyone he particularly helps or hurts? >> look, bloomberg is likely to

excite the progressive wing of the democratic base. right now a significant chunk depending on which poll numbers you're looking at, at least upwards of 50% of democratic primary voters support either bernie sanders or elizabeth warren, to candidates running on explicitly anti-billionaire platforms. bloomberg entering the race is likely to potentially boost those guys. they'll probably see an uptick in small dollar donors to those who are frustrated to see someone this ultrawealthy competing in late in the game. i think the perception is he's most likely to siphon support away from joe biden and buttigieg. trump's most enthusiastic supporters really, really depis bloomberg in sort of the nra and gun rights space, they see him as the ultimate boogie man because of the work he's done,

and the significant money he's contribud to efforts to restrict gun laws. to tighten up those gun laws. he could possibly excite people on the right as well in a way that, you know, tbd effects ultimately the president's fund-raising. >> you want to add to this, the michael bloomberg effect, if you will. >> i get a kick out of betsy's use of the word excite. she's quite right, it might excite progressives to continue to support people like sanders and warren, on the moderate side i think in a different way it will excite people who are a little concerned. the initial front-runner, joe biden, has not been able to show on the debate stage a great deal of momentum, despite the fact he does well in the polls. >> should the white house be concerned about him, michael bloomberg? >> maybe. the truth is i think the white house right now has, despite all the challenges it has with

impeachment, has a lot of confidence about where the president stands in the country and his chances for 2020. that doesn't mean they're not going to take a challenger seriously. i suspect and i haven't spoken to anybody about it since bloomberg officially made his announcement, but i suspect they're happy to see chaos in the democratic field and the fact there's room for someone like michael bloomberg and duval patrick to jump into a field that's already crowded suggest the democrats don't have their candidate yet to stand up to this president. >> the opposite of chaos would be the voice of our former president, barack obama, and i know you covered his speech at the california fund raidser. he said everybody needs to chill out. how about bloomberg, how could that change obama's view? >> i don't think it does. i think one of the key takeaways from the conversation that barack obama had in that room is this idea of kind of what democrats right now are focusing on, are quibbling on, trying to draw attention to the

differences within -- among the candidates in the democratic field are small relative to the gulf that you see when you compare their policy platforms, when you compare the issues they're running on to those of donald trump. his takeaway was he emphasized this idea of they're so much closer together than we're giving them credit for at this point. really the ultimate goal is to beat donald trump. another important thing to talk about when we're looking at what president barack obama's message was, he also made this point, which he reiterated over and over, about he wouldn't necessarily run the same campaign he ran in 2008. i think a lot of people are getting jittery and focusing on this idea of how do we win back that obama coalition, what does that look like. i think people are trying -- or are concerned as to whether that can be created right now. his point, too, he had a very long slog of a primary. this incredible sort of long-fought effort he had against hillary clinton. so when we go back to this idea

of donald trump being gleeful at the chaos you're seeing in the democratic primary right now, president barack obama's point was, i had that, too. look at how i came out. he really said, you know, i was stronger on the other end because i sort of took those hits in the primary was and more prepared for the general election. >> and we're stronger for the conversation you all brought. happy thanksgiving to you all. >> thank you. you can call it an impeachment alternative for the democrats. what it is and what it would mean. i'll talk about that in a minute with judiciary committee member steve cohen. later i'll speak with katie hill about impeachment and what led to her swift resignation. to her swift resignation applebee's new sizzlin' entrées. now starting at $9.99.

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we have powerful evidence already. if the president thought these witnesses could clear him, he would allow them to come in. >> there's more work to be done but at the same time we already accumulated quite overwhelming evidence. >> we're still reviewing the evidence to determine what, if anything, should be done to the president for this misconduct. >> i don't want to prejudge the outcome here. i do think the evidence, the facts of what the president did are really not contested. >> i'm not going to decide ultimately on impeachment yet. we're still weighing the evidence. >> i don't want to get ahead of where we are. >> as the impeachment inquiry gets ready for the next phase, lawmakers appear unsure of how it will end. let's bring in steve cohen, member of the how judiciary committee, that is the committee taking over jurisdiction on the impeachment investigation. congressman, thank you for

joining me. i appreciate talking with you. do you think the word unsure is appropriate there? what has changed? because if evidence is so overwhelming and powerful, why is the impeachment button not yet been pushed? what more needs to be heard? >> i think chairman schiff has done a masterful job presiding over the committee and deducing facts that show clear and convincible impeachment conduct, which includes peggy noonan and many on the republican pundit side. i think everyone wants to wait until all of the evidence is presented. th the president will have his opportunity to present evidence before votes are cast. if we say we're sure there's going to be impeachment, there will be republicans and right-wing news that will say this isn't fair and whatever. i think we need to keep it

appear to be open. if it's not open. the facts are there. but there could be something presented. there could be a shocker presented by the president. there could be the truth. and then again, you know, it's unlikely. but you never know what will happen. >> look, you've listened to two weeks of testimony. i'm not asking you to give me an iron clad answer and hold you to it but what are the articles of impeachmentle that you foresee the judiciary committee drawing up? >> well, i'm sure abuse of power would be one. that has been shown to be an issue in the intelligence committee investigation. and the contempt of or obstruction of congress, which has been talked about significantly by chairman schiff and which has been quite apparent in that the primary individuals who witnessed

trump's conduct and the bribing of zelensky have been forbidden by trump to appear. and they have used the court system legally so to challenge that but they could have come forth and they haven't. so, mulvaney and pompeo and bolton have not come forth. that's going to be an issue. >> do you think you might also -- might you consider any of robert mueller's findings? >> ting will be considered but this is going to be -- it's a team effort. and speaker pelosi has done a great job in putting the caucus together, leading the caucus. it will be a decision she'll make. i think there are members on the committee that would like to see and obstruction of justice included, but that will be one that would be considered less sure fire than those that we have deduced through the intelligence committee, which would be the contempt of

congress, abuse of power and possibly obstructions of justice but it would mostly be mueller material. if you want to go through it, emoluments, there's something there. >> you've been saying that for a long time. >> yeah. you want to be -- get as much of the public behind you as you can and give some of the republicans something to hang their hat on if they decide to put their oath before their party. that's been the issue, has been republicans putting their party before their oath. now you have bolton, who is so important, putting his book profits before his country. we don't know what will happen. that could turn some senators to have to do the right thing. it's a longshot -- >> whether it has up to two-thirds majority. how about the number of articles you think your committee needs to draft? have you contemplated that? is it one, many? two, three?

what are you thinking? >> you know, i think there are definitely going to be two because you can't get away from abuse of power or contempt of congress. if there's any more, it's just a matter of -- it's politics with the public's perspective and the public support and maybe draftsmanship. >> how about censure, there are those that suggest that may be the way to go because it is not as severe and then to that end, some republicans could say, all right, we could get behind that once the facts are all presented. what do you think? >> i presented that idea about a year ago and it was shot down rather quickly by quite a few in our leadership saying it wasn't significant enough and it didn't really have the effect of impeachment and didn't do enough. i don't think that's a fallback position. but i didn't think that ali was going to win in zaire but he did

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there's some good breaking news. nbc justice correspondent pete williams confirms ruth bader ginsburg has been released from johns hop kenz. she was hospitalized last night. she was given antibiotics and fluids after missing a day of arguments two weeks ago because of a stomach bug. despite several health scares, ginsburg has vowed to stay on the job as long as we can, which we welcome. she's 86 years old. more on the impeachment inquiry. republican stefanik appeared on the sunday talk shows asking viewers to visit her new website. >> you got hollywood very upset, didn't you? as soon as you made this splash by taking on adam schiff, you had people like george conway,

rosie o'donnell, chrissy teigen, chelsea handler come out and attack you. >> it's been disgusting and despicable. the good news is my district it with me. i'm overwhelmed by the support. hollywood liberals have dumped millions to oppose my far-left but the people in my district are supporting so if you're interested join fightschiff.com. >> joining us congresswoman katie hill. first off, your reaction to what we just heard and the remarks that were made by ms. ste if. anik and she talks about attacks from prominent women. >> i'm very well aware of the disgusting attacks. i think it's hypocritical of anyone on that side talking about how disgusting attacks are generally speak because it's coming from their side

constantly. at the same time, you know, i'm sensitive -- i don't like when we do it either. when i think somebody called her trashy, i think that's -- that needs to be -- that's not acceptable. what she did was wrong, right? you can go after her for that kind of thing. i thought she was totally inappropriate the way she went after schiff. i think it was a major shift in the way that she -- that she has typically be seen, as a moderate republican and now she's 100% on with trump. that's a shift and she deserves to be criticized. >> why is that? >> i think it's opportunistic. a couple different things. it could be now she's seeing her district is solidly with trump. there could be polling i don't know about. it could be that she wants to make leadership moves within the party or within congress. it could be that she wants some kind of -- who knows. it could be her own personal

ambition or what happens if you don't. >> of the trump tweets. >> yeah. i think it's unfortunate. it was a good opportunity for her to pander to the right, to be make a splash and she's a very smart woman. i worked with her on armed services. i liked her personally. it's unfortunate she swung over to defending trump and she knows -- she knows she's wrong on this. i'm convinced of that. >> let's take a look at your fellow congressman adam schiff. >> now the president real time is attacking you. what affect do you think that has on other witnesses' willingness to come forward and expose wrongdoing? >> well, it's very intimidating. >> those of you at home, it's time to change the channel, turn down the volume or hide the kids, put them to bed.

i yield to mr. schiff for story time hour. >> i thank the gentleman, as always, for his remarks. >> got to love that. how effective do you think he's been at managing and do you think he's made a convincing case against the president? >> oh, my gosh. i have the highest level of respect for adam schiff. i think he's an incredible leader. his district and mine touched -- my former district. he's done it with the absolute highest degree of professionalism and dignity and has shown that this is -- he's laid out the facts. he has treated the witnesses with respect. he's given the opportunity to actually tell their story and lay out the facts and has not let the republicans -- they've tried to make it a circus and he hasn't let them do it.

he's been calm and measured and i can't think of a better person to manage this process. >> have you given thought as to what you would ask if you were part of those hearings and also whether you want to go back. >> i don't know if i would want to go back to the house. it would be strange to go back. in terms of the questions i would ask my colleague says on the committee were right on point. for me it would be a matter of where could i be helpful in terms of eliciting more information. i was in the closed door hearing with ambassador sondland. i got a chance to ask some questions that i wanted to then. >> i want to play for our viewers who missed it a bit of your farewell speech in congress. let's watch that. >> i'm leaving because of a culture that gleefully consumed my naked pictures, capitalized onsexuality. >> do you get the sense that

people understood what you were going through at the time? have you at all second guessed stepping down? a lot of us, myself included, who miss your voice in congress. >> i appreciate that. i think it's incredibly difficult to understand what someone is going through unless you've been there. and there are hundreds of thousands of women across the country who have gone through that. i had empathy but i didn't get it until i went through it myself. public shaming in general is something -- it's become part of the culture in a really disgusting way and it's something -- as far as what i'm going to do next is figure out how to work on that issue. young women and girls cannot be put through this kind of thing. i'm a public figure. it still was wrong and disgusting the way they literally were using stolen photos. >> a double standard. let's throw up the screen that shows all the double standards that are applicable to you and your situation. >> it's totally different.

i'm not going to shy away from the responsibility that i had in this, but i do think -- i talked about it in my speech. look at donald trump, look at people who are supreme court justices and who are in the house and the senate. the right will casually dismiss as not a big deal but they're happy to jump on it. is it because i'm a woman? i think the queer element has something to do with it for sure. i hope i'm the last woman this happens to. part of my next steps has to be involved in making sure that happens. >> well, congresswoman katie hill, we may not get you from capitol hill that often but we love to get you from the studio any time. thank you. >> thank you. reaction starting to trickle in from the other side about michael bloomberg's announcement he's running from positive. coming up on "politics nation" with al sharpton, kamala

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candidate. sanders has been campaigning around new hampshire and today he's in hillsborough where nbc's ali vitali is with us. how are people in general reacting to this bloomberg announcement? >> reporter: over the course of the last few weeks when bloomberg first floated putting his name back into the race, i've been talking to voters, politics aside in the early states, they say it's too late to start running. you think of all the other candidates in this crowded field. they've been building out organizations for months, campaigning on the ground and really getting into the grassroots in states like iowa, new hampshire and the other early states. bloomberg, of course, his team saying they're not going to compete hard in those states. instead they're looking at a more national campaign, focused on the super tuesday states. voters just not even considering the politics saying it's late in the game to get in. the bloomberg team would say they look at polls that show voters are pretty much undecided on who they're going to vote for. that to them is a sign they can

still get into this race and find a path that will get them where they want to go. here at this bernie sanders rally, when you heard his campaign manager talking, that's the vibe i've picked up from folks here. >> another rich, billionaire person, who i think has no idea what's really going on with most of america so how is he going to address the big issues? >> he's going to come talk to everybody. not just the people in his class of people. you know, us locals, us day-to-day blue collar people need to be heard from, too. bernie is for us blue collar people. >> if he were to campaign here, would you vote for him? >> i would find out a whole lot more about him because of the very little i know. i think he had something to do with wanting to restrict the large beverages that had sugar in them. >> reporter: that's true. >> that's a little further than i would go.

that will give me an indication of where he lies with other things and i don't know that i would go there. i don't know. i don't know enough about him yet. >> reporter: i will tell you as i've been talking to voters here, i haven't been surprised by the fact that most of them had to say, with the first two voters which is i don't want another billionaire in the race that matches the rhetoric bernie sanders has had, but the last voter surprised me when he brought up the big soda ban. that wasn't something i was expecting to hear. they were still open, but that surprised me. >> we talk about bread and butter issues. i guess we have to talk about bread and butter and soda with michael bloomberg? thank you for that. joining me, adrian el rod, former senior adviser to the hillary clinton campaign, former new york representative joe crowley. welcome all. good to see you. >> thanks. >> let's get to the exclusive

interview with my colleague stephanie ruhle. bloomberg's communications director said, mike has become deeply troubled by the state of the democratic primary campaign and the possibility that we could lose next november. so, after hearing that, joe, do you think this move by bloomberg is anti-trump, is it anti-warren, anti-sanders? >> i think mike blool berg is deeply concerned trump may get re-elected. i don't necessarily share that concern. we have a lot of great candidates in the field. but i think he has a deep concern that trump may actually get re-elected. and i think he's going to do everything he can to prevent that from happening. >> when asked, though, if he's buying the election, bloomberg's team tells us he never accepted campaign contributions and never will. he's wholly independent of special interests. do to this unique donor threshold, do you think bloomberg could never take a

campaign contribution and mean that he will never appear on a democratic debate stage? i mean, what -- what impact could this have on his chances to win the nomination? >> well, he'll have to run a completely unconventional campaign compared to the other candidates in this race. i think his team is very aware of that. congressman crowley and i both know a lot of people who work on his team. i can tell you they have focus group, they have polled this issue -- or his rationale for getting in this race and have found a path for him to win. the question becomes, how does he do this without the debate stage? he certainly has plenty of resources to get his message out. i don't think he necessarily needs the debate stage. it might not be the worst thing in the world for him to differentiate himself from the rest of the pack. he'll have to make his case to the american people. why me and not them? why am i the one to save the day? why are these other 17 candidates who are very strong, who have been running compelling races, especially the top tier

of candidates, why am i better suited to be the president than them? that's the real challenge he and his campaign will face. >> he'll use money to put out the advertisements. he says he'll spend $100 million of his own money, $30 million on his first tv ad buy. he used to be republican, who in the democratic field does michael bloomberg's entry damage most? >> i think there is potential, alex, and everything i know about bloom berlg, read about bloomberg and talking to a few colleagues who worked for his various businesses, this is someone who is very analytical. he would not have jumped into this thing without hiring people to look into this, to pump in resources, do focus group, run eternal data to present to him there is some possible way for him to win this thing. i would not underestimate his ability to get his message directly in front of people with his vast resource, to be able to

microtarget through advertising, not only in the traditional means but online. facebook can definitely have an impact that the trump campaign tapped into. this is someone i would not write off this early. >> joe, i mentioned the campaign ads he's buying into, particularly his $31 million tv ad that has these democratic candidates none too pleased. >> i saw a tweet about mayor bloomberg's ad buy, the most of any presidential candidate ever. is he already running? >> i don't know. i do know this, is that elections should not be for sale. not to corporate billionaires, corporate executives. we need to build a grassroots democracy. >> mr. bloomberg, to my knowledge, has very little grassroots support but he's decided because he's worth $55 billion that he can run for president of the united states.

>> listen, we got to get money out of politics. let me be honest with you. i got to raise a ton of money to be competitive. and some people started this race with $10 million. >> money will not win this election. connecting with people will. >> it's an easy target, the issue of money, but do you think they see him as a threat? >> yes. i think he's going to focus those commercials against donald trump and i think there's a sense of -- the people i'm talking to that mike bloomberg is concerned that donald trump can be re-elected. let's keep this in mind. mike bloomberg is a self-made billionaire. he's a remarkable person. did some great things as mayor of new york. i didn't agree with him on

everything, but i have to say to you, when it comes to mayors i look back over the years i served in office with, he's up there with some of the best i've ever served with. >> okay. that's a statement right there. >> when asked why it's not too late to get in, the bloomberg team tells nbc, not a single vote has been cast and most minds have not been made up. are we at a point where the democratic nomination is still wide open? >> it is, alex. we know a majority of voters, a significant majority of voters in the democratic primary are still undecided. that goes for the early states. iowa voters, two-thirds of caucus goers are still undecided. certainly in the super tuesday states, you have to keep in mind, alex, the presidential candidates in the democratic primary so far have been so focused financially and with their own man power they have barely spent any time, any resources in the super tuesday states. sure, that gives mike bloomberg

a major advantage. however, to the points that senator warren, senator harris, senator booker just made about this election cannot be bought and paid for. we cannot allow a billionaire to come in here and just win an election by writing a check. that's going to be the real test for bloomberg. he has to make a case why he's running separate from his financial capabilities. lities if trump wins, the country may never recover. can he beat donald trump. i think it's possible. whomever he would choose as his running mate would make a significant difference as far as energizing the base if you will. if he were to become the nominee he would choose someone left of center, someone that can bring in folks from the elizabeth warren sort ofin bernie camp.

i think he would do okay with democratic centrists, maybe even some republican leaning independents may like his business background. look, again, alex, i wouldn't write this off. i disagree with some of the candidates saying the guy trying to buy the election. if they had $50 billion i can guarantee every last one would pump in as much of their own money as they could. no surprise that bloomberg is going this route. i would watch and see the message he articulates and how he tries to differentiate himself not from the candidates but from donald trump because the number one issue i would argue for most democratic voters is can you defeat this president. if bloomberg can convince voters he can you can see dynamics change several months from now. >> okay. thank you thanksgiving. thanks so much for the chat. >> appreciate it. >> she was awarded this year's profile in's courage award long before leading the fight for impeachment. up next, inside about the house speaker from a book written by daughter christine pelosi. b b s,

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the evidence is clear that the president, the president, has used his office for his own personal gain and in doing so, undermined the national security of the united states. >> house speaker nancy pelosi thursday after two weeks of testimony in the impeachment inquiry into president trump and while she tries to position the democratic party to win in 2020, a new book is out written by her daughter, called "the nancy pelosi way." it is a behind the scenes look at the words of wisdom the house speaker lives by. joining us christine pelosi. a big welcome to you. you, i should add, are an accomplished woman in your own right, the chair of the california democratic party's women caucus, a lawyer. before we get to your book i want to talk impeachment with you. from your lawyer perspective, what kind of articles do you think might be drawn up by the

judiciary committee? >> alex, thank you for the warm welcome and is acknowledgement of my legal career. actually, three years ago, this week, i served as hamilton elector and co-wrote the letter we sent to james clapper asking for an investigation into the trump/russia connection. i'll say as a victory of wikileaks hacking myself this has been a long time coming. we still have a lot more evidence to look at, and so i'm not quite sure what articles you would draw up from what we saw with these career civil servants and foreign service experts who testified over the past couple of weeks, but certainly, it does appear -- again, the president has every opportunity to come and testify and offer exculpatory evidence and i would hope he would take the speaker up on that offer but at this moment until he allows his staff to testify and until he testifies you're really looking at obstruction of congress, obstruction of justice, obstruction of the court.

one way to cut through all of that and potentially have futew articles of impeachment is for president trump to accept the offer of the speaker and come testify before congress. >> christine, are you surprised how close the numbers are right now, as i have my director throw up the numbers of a new poll, 48% say the president should be impeachment, removed from office, 45% opposed to it. given all the discussion and all the time, does that surprise you? >> no, because i mean the numbers look a lot like the popular vote that hillary clinton won in 2016, 3 million more votes than donald trump. at this moment it's still seen politically, it's being played by the white house through a partisan lens. what was important about the hearing is that it was really through a patriotic lens that people who are coming to testify were serving in a republican administration and i think the more people who start to weigh those words, will start to look at well what's the appropriate

remedy. again, we've only seen some of the testimony, we still haven't heard from the president, we could, if he is willing to come and do that. that might, indeed, change it. i think you can't look at the polling numbers. you have to look at the strength of the evidence and you never know what a jury is going to do until all the evidence is in. >> in terms of the weight of words, a lot of that is what makes up your book "the nancy pelosi way." when you talk about the lessons that your mother has taught you, the way that she lives her life. what do you think is most relevant to the political climate today? what do you pay attention to most? >> well, of course, like any good daughter i listen to everything my mother says. >> i hope my daughter is taking notes. >> mine too. listen to that, bela. i think that the one message over and over that my mom and dad told us and this is, you know, a childhood where nancy and paul pelosi had five kids within six years and one week,

raised us all from diapers to degrees. my mom was a hands on mom, class trips, chaperones, cupcakes, every night making sure our catholic school uniforms were pressed and the homework was done, setting up lunches and breakfasts the night before, so that every day could run smoothly, so that kind of proper preparation prevents poor performance is what everybody should be doing. get ready to take your seat at the table and don't let expectations of you stop you from being your own authentic self. >> i think you're very lucky to have had her words of wisdom and lucky to have this book to read a little further. we love listening to her behind the microphones, but we can look at your book as well "the nancy pelosi way." happy holidays to your family. >> thank you, alex. to yours as well. at the top of the hour the prognosis for supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg after a new health scare. g after a new health scare ntix cat slow turkey.

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