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politics nation." tonight's lead he made it official after will he or won't he speculation, today, michael bloomberg announced he will in fact make a run for the democratic nomination for president. the former new york city mayor says he's quote going all in to defeat donald trump and rebuild the country. bloomberg says he will finance his own campaign, kicking things off by spending over $30 million on a massive tv ad buy. when asked why now, the campaign's communications director told my colleague, stephanie rule, mike has become deeply troubled by the democratic party campaign and the possibility we could lose next november. we can't afford another four years of this. to be there in now brings the number of democrats vying for the white house to a grand total

of 18 and the second to join the 2020 race in the past two weeks. meanwhile, the rest of the 2020 democrats are campaigning all over the country including kamala harris, who is in south carolina this weekend. today, the california senator visited multiple african-american churches in the palmetto state as the fight for the black vote intensifies. the senator will be joining me from south carolina for a live interview. she'll be with us in just a few minutes. meanwhile, it's day 62 into the impeachment inquiry of president trump, after the dramatic opening, house committee adam schiff is calling the amount of evidence quote overwhelming, while his republican counterpart, congressman devin nunes, is pushing back against claims he met with former lead

prosecutor -- with the former lead prosecutor in ukraine. as the democrats are weighing -- while all this is going on, they're weighing the next steps in their investigation, getting closer to a decision on whether to draw up australia of impeachment. others are bracing for potentially lengthy trial in the senate. let's bring in jonathan kaye part, a writer for the "washington post" and msnbc contributor and a conservative radio host and incumbent political analyst. before we go to you two, let's go to richard liu for some breaking news. >> hey, rev, the headline reading white house review turns up e-mails showing extensive effort to justify trump's decision to block ukraine military aid.

basically we finished up the two weeks of public hearings and we had 12 fact witnesses, no documents brought forward by the case with adam schiff and democrats. where are the documents? the "washington post" now saying there are hundreds of documents related to what the white house did in reaction to a cia official filing a complaint. after that complaint was filed, then the white house and staff and mick mulvaney, according to reporting from the "washington post" then began an effort to try to understand, justify, explain why aid to ukraine was held up. just reading a little bit from the reporting, again, jonathan's colleagues at the "washington post," carol, i spoke to last hour, reading from some reporting, the government accountability office warned omb it was not following the law in how it chose to disperse

congressionally approved funds. that's the question, when were the funds withheld and how were they withheld, and based on how that happened, was it of any import. that's the reporting in the last two hours, if you're adam schiff and democrat you're looking at this very carefully if you're looking for democrats. >> let's get into this with my panel. jonathan, your colleagues at the "washington post" broke this story. how and could this affect the impeachment proceedings? >> it will affect the impeachment proceedings in that it's new information. one of the contentions during the hearings was the white house was limiting the release or preventing the release of e-mails, also the state department. that came up in several of the witnesses who testified. so, what this does is a few more drops in the bucket, a few more

pieces, i should say, in what happened and what was going on. the key thing in the story that richard didn't talk about in his great report is that mulvaney's request, quoting directly from the story, mulvaney's request came days after the white house learned there was a whistleblower complaint. >> let me make sure that we have this right. this came from mulvaney, the chief of staff, after they were made aware there was a whistleblower? >> that is correct. what that points out, that the acting chief of staff was trying to find a way to basically back fill explanations why there was a hold on the aid to ukraine. that's why this is a breaking news story. this is one more piece in the puzzle that goes to evidence that shows that the

administration was withholding aid authorized by congress that was supposed to go to ukraine that was held up because the president was looking for and insisting from the new president zelensky, that they open up investigations into so-called corruption, but what we now know that to mean was investigations into the oil and gas company, burisma, and into vice president biden and his son, hunter. >> you, when we hear this breaking news, it raises the question, if there were these flurries of e-mails that started after there was a whistleblower, it would lead one to believe they were trying to cover something up because if in fact they used appropriate or proper procedures there would be no need for a flurry of e-mails. does this look to the public and to the congressional committee that have interrogated people

like this is a big deal because they appear to be operating only because they know, or at least in large part because they know there's a whistleblower and this could become a problem? >> good evening. happy thanksgiving. i hate to rain on everyone's parade. i know the reporter, josh, and his colleague, have great reputations, carol and tom. what this has is a lethal dose of dullness to an already overwhelming impeachment. you get into the nitty-gritty of the budget impoundment act of 1974, you will kill the audience. already, it's turned against impeachment. the adam schiff trial has not carried the day. they lost six points in them mer son poll and bigger swing in the law school poll, the american people don't like it. some alleged to have asked the white house lawyers, what you're supposed to do, whether or not that they were doing was legal.

that strikes me as interesting as a white house counsel. that's what i used to do, make sure we were crossing our ts and dotting our is in the reagan administration. it doesn't strike me as headline grabber and does underscore the weakness of the case. >> i get all the dullness thing and all of that of ukraine, the fact of the matter is if in fact there was a u.s. congress vote that gave this country, the nation of ukraine, who was under military fear from russia, and they said, we're going to give these $391 million to them, and it was withheld, because the president of the united states was trying to extort them to announce an investigation against his potential opponent, and now there is a paper trail that once they found out there was a whistleblower, that they were trying to in fact cover how

they made the decision about disobeying what the congress had voted, you can say all you want, that speaks to a very serious issue and it questions whether the executive branch can in effect neutralize with the legislative branch had voted to do. you can call it dull but it is a real issue. >> well, i just got to disagree with you. some of the testimony that i'm sure most of us have heard and jonathan probably heard, impoundments on a temporary basis are not routine but not abnormal. they happen all the time. one was in effect in pakistan and two other countries came up in the exchange. frankly, i can't remember anything from this dull set of hearings. the fact that this congressional budget review impoundment act is on the table, that tells me they're desperate. i know, jonathan, you will disagree. democrats are desperate because they did not carry the day. >> it seems like people have

flurries of e-mails, it seems like they're the ones desperate. we're watching desperation, not operating in desperation, jonathan. >> right. i will speak to us on earth 1. this is not a show, this has nothing to do with whether the hearings are dull or not. what we're talking about is the rule of law. what we're talking about is the president of the united states is using his position to not only undermine an ally in active war with an enemy of the united states, but using his position to extort a foreign leader, get that person to open an investigation into, one, a private american citizen and two, potential political opponent in the 2020 election. hugh, i don't care what you're saying or talking points about show trial and dull this and dull that and ratings whatever, we're talking about the rule of

law, foundation of american democracy. i am not going to sit here and allow someone to try to tell me and the american people that what they've heard over the last two weeks, what they've seen over the last 60 days of the impeachment inquiry announced is what they're seeing. i am believing my eyes and believing my ears and still are millions of other people. i bet you there are people watching right now wondering when will republicans, when will people always talking about how they love the rule of law, love the constitution and revere the president and presidency, when will they do those things they have been lecturing us for decades? when will they do that? >> let me give him a chance to respond. i will run out of time. the point is you had decorated members of the military and people in intelligence and government officials testify. that's not a show trial. you had credible witnesses and all consistently saying the same thing.

how can you dismiss it as a show trial? >> now, i aren't you and jonathan. when and if any evidence of a high crime or misdemeanor appears and it's real evidence, not hearsay, i will take it seriously but i'm not going to take it seriously when i have the transcript in front of me. i don't consider it to be significant. i have the transcript and followed this closely. the histrionics adam schiff practiced, especially with his closing argument don't carry the day with americans or lawyers. >> brought up witnesses. i did not bring up adam schiff. the witness' testimony is evidence. i have to leave it there. we will come back with more of jonathan and you and this show. this is a show. i don't think the proceedings was a show but we will bring you back for another dull segment. coming up next, presidential senator kamala harris is taking a break to join me live on

"politics nation," you won't want to miss it. first, my colleague, richard liu with today's other stories. >> breaking news from the "washington post" reported the pentagon says the defense secretary is asking for navy secretary richard spencer's resignation. this news comes amid controversy over the case of a navy seal accused of war crimes. that decision was made after learning spencer privately proposed to white house officials if they did not interfere with military justice proceedings against navy seal edward gallagher accused of war crimes in iraq, spencer would insure gallagher was able to retire as a navy seal with his private insignia. gallagher was acquitted of murder bud convicted in july posing with the corpse of a captive. >> supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg was released from the hospital friday afternoon

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welcome back to politics nation. as promised, joining me now, presidential candidate and democratic senator of california, kamala harris. welcome back to "politics nation." >> good to be with you.

good to be with you on this sunday before thanksgiving. >> it is good to see you. let me ask you about the breaking news. how do you react to the fact the "washington post" now says there was a large amount of e-mails back and forward, going over how the white house was going to explain how they stopped the congressional voted for military aid to ukraine that any number of witnesses have said this week -- >> oh. didn't know that. >> yeah. they stopped them because of the president saying they should not get the money until they had publicly announced an investigation. >> the investigation. >> of the company involved with joe biden's son and his son himself. >> burisma. >> you said you didn't know it. if in fact it comes to be the case the "washington post" published this two hours ago, how would you react to the fact

the white house went into this mode in writing back and forth with e-mails trying to explain how they stopped the military aid to ukraine? >> i'm not at all surprised. listen, there's already been a confession, overted attempt to cover up the crime. then, we saw a week of witnesses who are very highly respected public servants. there's just more evidence. it turns out if the "washington post" report is correct, there is even more evidence of what we know, which is that this president has been a lawless president, and has served his personal interests and put those above national interests, including national security. that's why the impeachment proceedings have been going forward, because there clearly is evidence of his wrongdoing

and he should be held accountable. >> you have been a prosecutor for much of your career. if there -- >> yes. >> -- there is a vote for impeachment it goes to the senate where you sit. as a prosecutor, what do you think needs to be done in the senate trial, if there is one, to establish whether or not the president ought to be removed or not? what will you be looking for as a prosecutor? this is not a criminal proceeding but it is based on evidence. >> and to your point, i will be looking for evidence, for facts, and then applying those facts and that evidence to the law. i will tell you another thing i will be looking for. that's for my colleagues across the aisle to speak up. i know their con sit tuents are.

folks have to put country before party. this is wrong this happened. it's on the e-mails of everything else that happened with this administration and attitude and perspective and conduct of donald trump. he has been a lawless president. he has no regard or respect for the members of our intelligence community, who are some of the most trusted in our national security ap rparatus and highly respected and the relationships we have with our allies around the globe supporting the effort to maintain the democracy. he has no reasonable dougard fo of the president to speak with authority for the united states and grounded for the best of the people in our country. what i am looking for is also

that my colleague, and perhaps motivated and encouraged and compelled by their constituents, that they speak in the best interest of our country what is so clearly an abuse of power by donald trump. >> let me ask you this, and i want to get into politics with you. one last question on this. one of the things we keep hearing from the republicans, if he did it, if he had in fact said he wanted president zelensky of ukraine to announce this investigation on theed byings, even if he did it, it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment, i know you said you wanted to see evidence. if he did it and we see evidence in the house of public proceedings, do you feel that rises to the level of impeachment and removal and if

so, why. he put his personal interests in front of national security. he took and was soliciting a favor from a foreign government to serve his personal political interest. again, his personal interests are against the interests of national security. it's not like he was saying, buy me a fur coat. he was asking to interfere in our democracy and compromising our relationship and our credibility with an ally around what should be america's interests in maintaining and supporting draeksz around the world. to compromise the credibility of the united states of america in that regard means not only that the interaction with that particular head of state, but word gets around. it means the word of the president of the united states is no longer taken to be a word that is spoken with authority

and with the best interests of the whole in mind but instead personal interests. these are the things at play right now. i have to say, what we have seen this week really does not call into question the evidence. it is a matter whether people in congress will have the will and courage to act on this knowing that our democracy and the credibility and integrity of our democracy and our system of justice are very much at stake. >> let's get to the race for president. michael bloomberg announced today he is running for president and made it official. he spent $31 million in his first ad by. how will this affect the race, if at all? how will it affect your race for the nomination, if at all? >> well, look, you know, i'm here in south carolina, i'm competing in iowa.

money is sadly and tragically a big factor in who moves up in the polls and who has the ability to speak to the american public in a way that gives you the ability to actually win. right now, i'm -- you know, i'm trying to raise the money we need to be on television in iowa. my opponents are putting millions and millions of dollars, as you said, in terms of michael bloomberg. others are putting millions and millions of dollars in. i would ask anybody who wants to give on the air in iowa and go toe-to-toe against trump please visit us at kamala harris.org. money is a very big factor sadly in american politics and who might win. it is tragic because the voters should be presented with an equal amount of information about who the candidates are and track record and level of experience and intention and

plans to improve the condition of their lives. in my case, i will tell you i think there's a clear contrast i want more voters to see. we have on the one hand a lawless president. i have, as you said, spent my entire career fighting for justice and the rule of law. we have donald trump wab predator. i have spent my entire career going after predators and making sure there is a consequence for predators. >> donald trump is running a for profit college and i have taken out of business a for profit college putting profits ahead of our students and profit instead of education. money has a lot to do with where and how and how frequently you get your message out. >> deval patrick has also enters the race. a spokesman said part of his running is he's not impressed

with the present field that they could beat donald trump. deval patrick has not said -- he was on this show last night, but his entry suggests he does not feel we have the candidates to beat donald trump. why do you feel, talking to the american public, why do you think you're the best one to carry the scorch for the democratic party and you could in fact beat donald trump? >> i believe justice is on the ballot in 2020, when we're looking at the fact that most working families in america are paying more taxes than the 400 richest families in america, justice and economic justice is on the ballot. you look at the fact that 30 million people don't have access to healthcare and we have seniors splitting their pills and making decisions whether they fill their refrigerator or fill their prescriptions, healthcare justice is on the ballot. i look at our babies, elementary and high school children are in

fear and shot in the classroom, justice is on the table. i spent my entire career for justice. these are the things that are the fight. the thing that makes a distinction between me and people on that stage we not only know we have a fight we need somebody who can win and go toe-to-toe against donald trump. i have taken on jeff sessions, bill barr and brett cavanaugh. i will take on donald trump. we need somebody to build up a coalition, not only in the interest of winning, speaking to people within the beauty of diversity who we are and knowing we have more in common than what separates us but building a coalition and beauty who we are in diversity and healing our country. i have lived in many places and many cultures and i know i have a unique ability to build back up the obama coalition and unify

the country and the party and so important at this time. >> thank you, kamala harris for being with us. >> a quick programming note. tonight, another presidential candidate, senator corey booker joined "kasie d.c.," to talk about his debate performance and how he plans to gain more traction after not qualifying for the december debate at 8:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. coming up, did you know rudy guilliani is now in the insurance business? i'll explain next. ss i'll explain next. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? whoof! whoof! so get allstate where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me. sorry! he's a baby!

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african-american man. there is a woman who served longer than i have. this is my 12th year on the city council. it is a pleasure to be here with you as you fought many giants throughout your career. i look at somebody like our vice president it is important to have somebody who fought giants throughout their years. i have been studying the life of vice president biden since 1988, and years before i met pete buttigieg, i was checking him. i raised my daughter myself many parts of my life and i read about senator biden when he went through challenges he was raising his children. he went through a greater loss than i did and packing up lunches and getting on amtrak and going to the senate. i was packing up my daughter's lunch and went to the city

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it's time for joe biden to clear out the situation what we have been coming to in our time. caleb of old was able to do it for the children of israel. it's time for joe biden. >> what is mayor buttigieg's relationship with the black community of south bend? clearly, he has to get black votes to secure the nomination. tell me about how he is at home with the black community. >> well, the challenge that we face, if you're looking at "the douglass plan" and compare it to the city of south bend, "the douglass plan" has not been active in the city of south bend. i was the one that called for the sympathy when our mayor demoted chief boykins. a well respected black police chief, not only for blacks but everybody in the community. not only did he remove him but

demoted him in such a fashion we currently 7 years later are still in the middle of trials and dealing with these issues 7 years later. we have not gotten a subpoena and battling back and forth in court. my concern is if you're handling this situation and in the middle of martin situation, the morale of our police department is low. furthermore, you look at minor hiring that had almost 30% african-american and 50% latino we are very diverse. you look at our hiring practices it has not matched that. 1-2%. how can you, for the whole united states when it hasn't been enacted in south bend. let us first enact it in south bend and go forward. >> i have to go.

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the 2020 democratic primary race has a new addition today. former three-term mayor of new york city, michael bloomberg, officially announced he's running for president. bloomberg's entry was not warmly received by some of his democratic opponents, who says he's simply trying to buy his way through the primary. with me is jonathan capehart, senior writer for the "washington post" and hugh, a conservative radio talk show host. jonathan, let me go to you first. you worked with michael bloomberg. what do you think about his announcement? is there a path for victory for him and do you think the can win the nomination? >> yes. i worked on mike's first campaign as a policy advisor. one, the question i have, is it a viable strategy to skip, iowa, nevada, new hampshire and south carolina, and still win the nomination? the second and most important

thing is, will he be able to get black votes? stop-and-frisk, the police policy in new york, during his 12 years as mayor, that stop-and-frisk millions of african and latino men lived through that and it was trauma and it will make his getting the black vote very very difficult. >> if by some happenstance, michael bloomberg got the nomination, hugh, do you think he would be a real threat to donald trump in the general election if donald trump is in fact the nominee of the republican party? >> di, al. i think michael bloomberg is in that sweet spot of the center left that the years. the only one that ever went to a democrat went to deval patrick. i think the governor is a formidable entry into the race. i think he's got extraordinary talent and experience. so we'll see how that plays out. right now, it's elizabeth warren

versus pete buttigieg. i don't know if either of them are in time to make a dent. i always thought kamala harris would be atop the democratic race at this point. as i think her interview with you showed, she's kind of desperate now. and the impeachment is an anchor around her as it is around every democrat who is not in the lead. i'll watch deval patrick and the mayor very closely, but i think we're frozen in the warren/buttigieg choice. >> do you think deval patrick because he's not waiting to go to the other super tuesday states, him coming in early, do you think he has any way of catching up? you said you have written him a check? not for this campaign? >> the more people who see him on the stump, particularly outside of iowa, he's already well known in new hampshire because of the new hampshire media market dominated by the boston stations. i think he'll do well in south carolina. i just look at his resume and say he's formidable and his back story is very, very compelling.

>> what do you think, jonathan, about the entry of deval patrick and is there a path you could see for him to win this nomination of the democratic party? >> well, he has a great resume and a great back story, but the question is, is he getting in too late? there was a devastating picture out of atlanta where he had to cancel an event at an hbcu that had nobody there in attendance. and so how can you get people to vote for you if you can't get people out to come see you and hear your message when there are already 18, 19 people running for president, and as we have seen from poll after poll, people are kind of gelling around the candidates who they like. and so the big hurdle for governor patrick is to get his message out, get in front of people so that they can see him. and we've got a december debate coming up. he's not going to be on the debate stage. he might not even be on the january debate stage. how will people get to learn about who he is in order for him

to be a viable candidate and do what hugh thinks he will do, that is be a terrific nominee and someone who could win. >> hugh, let me ask you, i'm out of time, but let me ask you, who do you think is the most formidable candidate of the democratic 18 that would give donald trump the most trouble in a general election? >> hands down, pete buttigieg. not because he's just the smartest but because generational change has always worked with the democrats, with jack kennedy, with barack obama, mayor buttigieg is the candidate of generational change. >> i have to leave it there, jonathan and hugh, thank you both. always good to have both of you on the show. you keep it exciting. i mean dull. i mean exciting. up next, my final thoughts, and as we go to break, here's a quick look at how saturday night live parodied this week's democratic debate. >> mayor pete, you're looking

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this thursday is thanksgiving day, where many gather with family and friends for this annual coming together and reconnecting, hopefully in a positive way with families. but i want to challenge you to also do something constructive in the midst of whatever you do for thanksgiving. i spend my thanksgiving at the national action network headquarters, serving hot meals to the homeless and to seniors with no family, and to deal with families of those that have been the victims of some mishap in our society. but i would recommend to you that are going to be at home or

with friends, ask them if they're registered to vote. if they're not, maybe even bring some registration cards. this country is in crisis. and you need every cousin, every sibling, everybody to vote, no matter who they vote for, and they need to be involved and standing up with some group, some club, some organization that's fighting to make sure that our voting is not interfered with, not only by foreign powers but by domestic suppression of voters, by those that would rather see less people vote. you can do it without breaking the holiday talk around the table. just kind of bring it in. are you registered to vote? we're in serious times. uncle, aunt, let's register. let's vote. and let's be active. that does it for me. thank you for watching. i'll see you back here next saturday at 5:00 p.m. eastern. up next, "meet the press" with chuck todd.

this sunday, damming testimony for president trump. >> was there a quid pro quo with regard to the requested white house call in the white house meeting? the answer is yes. >> ambassador gordon sondland says top trump administration officials all knew. >> everyone was in the loop. >> and that the word came from the top. >> so we followed the president's orders. >> also pushed back to the republican claims of ukrainian election interference. >> this is a fictional novelty that is being perpetrated and propagated by the russian services themselves. >> as the parties fight over what the president did. >> one ukrainian received the aid and two, there was no investigation into the bidens. >> there defense is they