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great perks of working at 30 rock. does not disappoint. >> awesome. are you done now, do you get to go have turkey? >> it is turkey time. i hope you're not far behind. >> one hour behind. it is 9:00 a.m. out west, high noon here in the east. the president he's a big decision to make. will he take house democrats up on their offer to have his lawyers or him be part of the impeachment inquiry next week, or would it just give legitimacy in their eyes to a process republicans continue to write off as a sham? sunday is the deadline for a response to the invitation from judiciary chairman jerry nadler for trump or his attorneys to represent him when hearings resume next wednesday. if he says yes, it remains to be said which of his attorneys would represent him. his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, is making headlines outside of that question. "the new york times," "the washington post," and "the wall

street journal" all reporting that when giuliani was in ukraine trying to dig up dirt on the bidens, he was also trying to drum up business from ukrainian officials. giuliani is denying those allegations in a tweet. quote, i did not pursue a business opportunity in the ukraine as they misrespected. i could have helped them recover $7 billion in stolen money but i didn't, was paid zero. joining me from florida, nbc news white house correspondent kelly o'donnell, "washington sun-times" reporter. kelly, is there any sense about whether the white house is planning to participate in next week's hearings, is there a serious debate going on, what are you hearing? >> well, at most at this point they're saying they're considering this offer from chairman nadler to take part and one of the things being offered is the chance for lawyers for

the president, whether that be personal lawyers or lawyers from the white house counsel's office representing the presidency to question witnesses who will appear on the panel next week. and they are scheduled to be academic type witnesses to talk about the constitutional grounds for impeachment. very different than what we saw in the intelligence hearing public phase where we saw fact witnesses who could talk about specific interactions they had that might relate to the president or foreign policy. as you outlined, chris, one of the big questions is a major talking point for the president and his allies, is to undercut the legitimacy of this inquiry altogether and say it inherently treats the president unfairly so to take part would in some ways undercut that argument. at the same time, not taking part would mean they were given an opportunity and neglected to be involved and to represent the president's interests. we don't have a clear picture

yet. the telegraphing that has taken place so far is by branding it, labeling it, and deriding the process as a sham and partisan should sort of prepare us to expect they would not take part. that could be very different than if there is -- and again, walking ahead a few steps, if the democratic-led house were to impeach the president and a senate trial is required that is controlled by republicans who dominate in the senate, that might be a different venue where the president would feel better about having his interests represented. at a minimum there would be republicans on the committee who would be able to speak to some degree for the president. the president himself is expected to attend a nato summit in europe next week so he wouldn't be physically likely to appear. the question about whether he will send lawyers is still an open one. >> let's talk about the giuliani reporting, lynn, is the white house at all concerned? certainly there are members of the administration in the past who have had a lot of concerns for a while, they've been very

colorful in their descriptions of rudy giuliani. do you think these latest allegation move the needle at all, though? >> well, within the white house, it doesn't move the needle in terms of what they're saying, because no one can get ahead of the president. so now the changed story of the president, chris, is that he hardly knows him. what he said the other day. yet you have the phone call where he's sending people like president zelensky to "talk to rudy." so there actually isn't a lot that the white house could do or say or even worry about because you don't know how it will be contradicted by the president. and that's why i think when it comes to letting jerry nadler know by 6:00 on sunday if they're going to have representation or not, i think there might be a third way and

say they will keep the option open and if we want to send someone, they will submit a name. and it will not be rudy giuliani. >> i want to bring in ambassador chris hill who is at the university of denver, former ambassador to iraq. always good to see you, ambassador. we've got rudy giuliani, private citizen, running this kind of policy channel along with what we've been calling the three amigos, or they call themselves the three amigos. "the new york times" has seen documents showing that while giuliani was pushing trump's agenda with ukraine officials who, got to say this, needed u.s. support, desperately wanted u.s. support, giuliani was also exploring financial agreements with members of that very same government. what do you make of that? >> well, i think, you know, this is sort of ukraine's fate with the trump administration. first of all, the trump administration has wanted to follow this russian line that somehow it had nothing to do

with russia and everything to do with ukraine. this is part of a broad-based russian effort to weaken the ukraine state so trump was quite happy to go along with that. and then of course giuliani is second to none, since 9/11, in terms of enriching himself from security issues. so i think that has continued, and the president seems to have had full trust in him. so of course if you're an ambassador out there, in any country dealing with this kind of weird stuff going on, and you can't get your secretary of state on the line, there are a lot of problems. and i think it really speaks to the fact that the world is kind of watching us. but i think increasingly they're looking at this whole country that, you know, maybe we're unindicted co-conspirators by selecting this guy, and maybe electing him a second term. >> chris, the ambassador brings

up a good point. if you are a diplomat, if you actually are working for the u.s. government, there are ethics laws and so on that would cover something like what this report apparently says rudy giuliani did. but he is a private citizen. so i don't know, what does that mean? what does that mean in terms of what could happen to him even if it did turn out to be true as we wait for the details of this report to be made public? >> every senior official in the u.s. government has to fill out ethics forms and explain income and at request, provide taxes, provide copies of the tax return. this is a clear thing that everyone is used to. but in the trump administration there's clearly a new normal and of course everything gets pushed to the supreme court and no one knows when that will ever happen. so in the meantime you have a sense of an administration that has been willing to politicize

every single instrument, every single department in the government. it started with the fbi, it's continued now with the military. it's of course gone through the state department. so this gross politicization of these accoutrements of our democracy. the answer is that that's a deep state. i'm not sure what they mean by deep state, no one really knows. it seems to be those of white house took an oath to the constitution. this is a case where the american people and maybe the republican party should wake up and decide whether we want to live like this, because the world is looking at us and we're not looking very good. >> so john, against this backdrop of what seems to be something new in the headlines coming out every day, next week does look like the last big push for the democrats, if there are any minds to be changed, this is the opportunity, with the judiciary committee now holding its own hearings.

i'm wondering, the democrats you're talking to, what are they expecting next week and what are they hoping for, realistically? >> they're going to lay out the constitutional basis for impeachment. with these public hearings in the house intelligence committee, they've been gathering the facts. and millions of americans have been watching, not the full public. somewhere around 11 to 14 million americans were watching. now they really need to help make sense of these facts in terms of americans, are they enough to impeach and remove a president, is there an historical and constitutional basis for impeaching and removing a president. i think they're concerned about public opinion. when the impeachment inquiry began, we saw an uptick in support for impeaching the president. this was in late september. since then, support for impeaching has kind of plateaued. it's hovering around 50%. and that's not a good number for

the president, that means roughly half the country thinks he should be impeached and possibly removed. the calculus here for democrats has to be how can we convince the public that we have enough evidence to impeach and possibly remove a president, a very historic action? and they have to think about whether or not the impacts of this on 2020, but also, you know, do they want to set a precedent in which a president can abuse power and use congressionally allocated military aid paid for with u.s. tax dollars as bribery for foreign election interference. do they want to set a precedent in which that is ignored? >> so lynn, he makes a good point, obviously what we've seen about impeachment, the numbers supporting impeachment have plateaued, and yet i was noting that kentucky democrat john yarmuth said he's not so sure, he thinks once the hearings are actually focused on the articles of impeachment next week, he

think it's going to actually move the needle by as much as 4 to 5 points. are any democrats you're talking to thinking that way? and even if it did, would it change anything? >> i think the next step -- this is not going to be a totally linear process here, because the next thing to really watch out for is the report from the house intelligence committee that should be out by the beginning of next week and transmitted to the house judiciary committee. if they write this in a simple and informative way, it could help very much tell the story to the public, which is crucial in making people understand what's going on without getting into a lot of the weeds of this and that detail. if they write it in a clear, simple, and compelling way, that could help the judiciary committee now fill in the blanks of what will be articles of impeachment. obstruction of justice seems one very likely one, maybe abuse of

power. whether or not they bring in issues from the mueller probe. all this, it's like a recipe for a stew here, and how the stew comes out depends on what you put in it. don't discount that with new information coming forward all the time, the house intelligence committee still might have the right to have more hearings and we also still have to see if there will be a speedy resolution of the court case dealing with don mcgahn testifying, which is something that house judiciary chairman jerry nadler very much wants. that would address clearly the obstruction of justice issue. and then on this backdrop, the judiciary committee even allows trump and his team to give written answers if they're not there in person. >> no shortage of moving parts. happy thanksgiving to all, appreciate it. still ahead, back to back

controversies now for pete buttigieg who says he can relate to the black struggle because he's faced hate as a gay man. what his critics are saying and what it means as his campaign gears up to head to states with large populations of black voters. if you're one of the millions traveling this holiday storm from coast-to-coast, that travel could be pretty darn difficult. we're also live in manhattan were the winds didn't ground the balloons at the macy's thanksgiving day parade. any comments doug? yeah. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual. only pay for what you need with liberty mutual. con liberty mutual solo pagas lo que necesitas. only pay for what you need... only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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right now wind and snow alerts are making holiday travel anything but easy for a lot of people. out west, check this out, 23 million people under weather alerts from california to michigan, and the other half of the country is facing high wind alerts. joining me here in the studio, meteorologist michelle grossman. okay. to grandmother's house we go. where are the trouble spots? >> they're pretty much everywhere. i think a better question is where are there no trouble spots. we're looking at travel trouble at least since last tuesday into this sunday. it's pretty much from west coast to east coast. we're looking at a coast-to-coast situation here. let's talk about the snow first. we have lots of colors on the map indicating some snow out there. winter storm watches and warnings, even a blizzard warning in rapid city. great news for the skiers,

they're probably loving this on a holiday. just not great news for travelers on the road and in the air. satellite radar, snow falling, that's the blue. green, heavy rain in the southern plains. pinks and purples showing us the icy mixes, that's the toughest to travel on. the big story are the winds in the northeast. this is going to be travel trouble today in the northeast because we're seeing winds gusting up to 55 miles per hour as some of those airports have a wind advisory. in the northeast, two storms that we've been talking about. we'll have a third storm come ashore from the west on saturday. that will impact the east coast later next week. let's talk about in terms of the airports where we may see some delays, may not see some delays, likely in boston. also in new york, philadelphia, along the i-95 corridor. also out to the west. we do have some travel troubles out west as well, chris. >> happy thanksgiving! >> happy thanksgiving.

you're going home to get your turkey now, michelle, thank you for that. the beloved balloons, because this was the big thing about the weather here, the beloved balloons at the macy's thanksgiving day parade were given the all clear just before the parade kicked off. handlers were under orders to keep those massive balloons lower to the ground than they might usually. let's go to nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez along the parade route here in new york. things are clearing out already, gabe. >> reporter: hi there, chris. happy thanksgiving. what a difference a few minutes makes. last hour, we were talking to some of the people enjoying the parade. as you can see, the parade is wrapped up, so the cleanup effort is under way. within the next few minutes, the streetlights, authorities will have to open the streets back up. it was quite a day here in

manhattan. those balloons, as you mentioned, 16 large balloons, did fly. although they were held a little lower than usual. authorities were checking to see if those sustained winds topped 23 miles an hour or wind gusts topped 34 miles an hour. thankfully the weather cooperated, and police gave the all clear so they were able to fly. where are you guys from? >> springfield, new jersey. >> reporter: what did you think of the parade? >> it was awesome! >> reporter: what was the highlight? what was the best part? she's speechless, chris, i'm just telling you. how was spongebob? did you see him? >> yeah. >> reporter: that was the highlight for me. what about astronaut snoopy? >> that was awesome. he was in his helmet. >> reporter: that was great. where are you guys from, same place? >> we're all from springfield, new jersey.

>> germany. >> reporter: you came all the way from germany? >> i'm an au pair. >> reporter: thank you so very much, i appreciate it. chris, i've got to tell you, we were talking to somebody from australia earlier, people from california, all over the country, enjoying what has obamaca become an american tradition, the 93rd macy's thanksgiving day parade. this was the first time i witnessed in in person. i was really glad to see those balloons. >> and on a scale of 1 to 10? it's like a 25, right? >> reporter: come on, chris, it's at least a 12 or 13, i was going to say, but yes, 25, you've got to come. it's amazing. >> gabe gutierrez with the key assignment today. and now you get to go have turkey. thank you, gabe, much appreciated. >> reporter: you bet. back to politics. the president has long claimed his 2016 campaign was spied upon. still ahead, new reporting that the very investigation he called

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there's another controversy facing pete buttigieg today, even as several polls show him gaining ground. buttigieg says his experience as a gay man helps him relate to the struggles faced by african-americans. some view it is an attempt by a privileged white man to claim a type of victimhood. african-americans, unlike gay people, don't have the option of coming out at their chosen moment who disclosed his sexual orientation after he was elected mayor. buttigieg has consistently been in single digits or even at zero with black voters and it's

something he's faced questions about repeatedly on the trail. >> reporter: is there anything specific that we'll see in terms of changing -- >> you'll see increased engagement and new forms of engagement and a lot more to come. >> now the buttigieg campaign will be heading to some states with much larger black populations including north and south carolina. joining me, nbc news political reporter ali vitali, democratic strategist basil smikle and spokesman for ted cruz's campaign. basil, how serious is this for him? >> he wasn't doing well in the black community before and this clearly is not going to be helpful to him. i don't know how long it will take for him to dial this back and fix this. that "root" article was

scathing. this is kind of egregious because there is this sense of privilege. it's a similar privilege that existed when people were talking about beto and not stacey abrams and andrew gillum. he could be a student of the civil rights movement and acknowledge that that movement sort of opened the door for a lot of social and political movements that came after. but to create that comparison -- >> let me give you another comparison, because there's third thing we haven't mentioned, a stunning quote from politico from a former obama staffer. buttigieg often compares his campaign to that of barack obama's. the former staffer said, it definitely offends me personally just because obama made serious outreach to communities of color. there was lots of outreach and focus and care taken to those communities in a way that i think has been very heavy handed and perfunctory at best with

pete's campaign. so what does he do now? >> you know, i think he needs some black friends, frankly. look, he comes from south bend, indiana, which has a higher percentage of african-americans than the rest of the country. the fact that he seems to have a tin ear signals to me that he doesn't engage communities of color at all or very often. and that's a bigger problem when he's trying to run for president of the united states. again, i think the narrative is already sort of there. i don't know that he comes out of that, certainly not by the time south carolina comes. >> they're going to do this trip, they'll go to south carolina, to north carolina, but there has to be whiplash in the campaign, on the one hand, yay, the polling numbers look really good, then uh-oh, the campaign isn't just polling numbers. >> we've been talking about him lagging in the polls in that voting bloc. i've had voters across the

country say to me, i like pete buttigieg but in the larger scheme of the electability argument, they're concerned about how he's doing with black voters because every democratic primary voter knows this is a group of voters you have to win over. south carolina, but nationally for sure, if you want to be a successful nominee. >> and we learned from hillary clinton that black voters will stay home. >> absolutely. >> does the president's re-elect look at this and say, oh, good, the more controversy, the better? or is this what happens always in a cycle, especially around now, when there are so many people in it, controversies arise. but frankly, the president's about to be impeached, probably, so they've got their own worries. >> so as a straight white republican, i'm happy to weigh in on this latest pete buttigieg controversy. the comment about the struggles of the african-american

community was not a smart thing to say. if he becomes the democratic nominee, republicans have to be concerned about him. there's certain segment of the electorate who will look for an off-ramp to be able to vote for a democrat as opposed to the president. with a nominee like elizabeth warren who comes across as very off-putting, i think, or joe biden whose performance on the campaign trail, candidly, has been underwhelming, pete buttigieg stands in stark contrast to that. however, you can't get there if you can't navigate this minefield of democratic party identity politics. the blowback he's getting seems to be a function of that democratic party identity politics. i think at the end of the day the democrats will come together behind whoever the nominee is. but boy, as hillary clinton

learned, if you don't have the african-american community fired up, that gives the advantage to republicans. >> you say if he wins the nation, that becomes a very big "if." it seems to me, basil, and feel free to weigh in, ali, look, joe biden is loved in the black community, that support has stayed pretty darn strong for him. >> it has. and i don't see anybody really siphoning it off. but there are a lot of other black voters who are still trying to make up their mind. that's why it's still an open race. >> i will say, i think the reason iowa and new hampshire are important, and it sort of takes this conversation about black voters out a little bit because you wait until south carolina and a little bit in nevada as well, but iowa and new hampshire have the ability to be self-fulfilling prophecy states. voters want to see that you can win. if you do well in iowa and new hampshire, you have an act, people haan

argument, i can be successful. all of them are playing so hard in iowa because you can't afford to wait to get to south carolina on the calendar. that's a month of coverage where you're losing out if you just wait. you have to win in those states. >> even though, as i said, hillary clinton learned a lesson about the black vote, this is not that election. >> right. >> people thought she was going to win anyway. >> that's exactly right. >> and there is a feeling against donald trump in the community that's very different. you're going to stay with me, and ron, token republican white male, you're going to stay with me. ali vitali, always great to see you, happy thanksgiving, appreciate it. just ahead, members of congress are home this holiday, getting reaction to the impeachment inquiry. are they hearing any thanks or are their constituents crying foul? but next, new reporting on what the doj's inspector general found when he looked into the trump administration's claim that he was spied on. e was spien

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you could -- i think spying did occur, yes, i think spying did occur. >> but there's new reporting from "the new york times" that says the department's inspector general found no evidence that the fbi attempted to place undercover agents or informants inside the trump campaign. that's according to people familiar with a draft of the attorney general's report. the full highly anticipated report is expected to be released on december 9th. joining me now, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos and daniel lippman. president trump has been claiming his own intelligence agencies have spied on his campaign for a while now. take a listen. >> they were spying. they were spying on our campaign. yes, i think they were spying on the trump campaign. you can't say it any better than that. i'll go a step further, in my opinion it was illegal spying,

unprecedented spying. the fact is they were spying on my campaign, using agencies to -- intelligence agencies to do it. it went right up to the top. and everybody knows it. spying, surveillance, trying for an overthrow. >> he's also been demanding an investigation into his claims. is this a classic example of be careful what you wish for? >> yeah, because he has his own justice department inspector general saying this is categorically false and that there's no evidence that the fbi spied on the trump campaign. the fbi only was looking into possible russian interference in our election. and they had this intermediary who was promising a trump campaign adviser, george papadopoulos, that russia had dirt on hillary clinton. and so the fbi did what any other good law enforcement

agency would do, is open an investigation. and, you know, trump's claim that obama wiretapped him in trump tower, that came from a breitbart article that was a total conspiracy theory. >> danny cevallos, you have all these allegations that have been out there, that have been repeated over and over again, the president, backed up by members of his own administration including what you heard from william barr, now we see this report debunks all of it, but does it mean anything? we're in a different world now, where reports are reports or reports are not reports, right? >> respectfully, this ig's report is hardly going to be a stirring tribute to the conduct of the fbi in the course of its investigation. for example, the report is going to likely conclude that the fbi didn't send agency and informants into the trump campaign but they did have informants and even an undercover agent monitoring and even meeting with trump

advisers. to the trump side, and republicans, they can point at that and say, well, okay, they didn't actually infiltrate but they sure were watching us. there is also evidence that an fbi lawyer may have falsified documents in order to obtain warrants. now, as a criminal defense attorney, that happens. government lawyers or government agents want so hard to win and ferret out crime that sometimes they do cross the line and it can invalidate a warrant. but republicans are going to be able to point to that if it's in the report and say this is more evidence of a biased investigation. >> so here we go again, daniel. something for everyone out of this report, or even if there isn't something for everyone, everyone will find something. >> yeah, i think that's accurate. democrats will say that what trump has been saying about the fbi spied on his campaign is a

total -- just added to all the misstatements and lies that the president has used in the last couple of years. while republicans, like danny pointed out, they will say, look, the fbi did have some of these informants who were kind of probing into the campaign. but remember, in 2016, you had the -- this all became the mueller probe, where you had trump's campaign manager, and you had the national security adviser, they all got charged for different crimes related to the campaign. so this was kind of an unusual campaign with russian interference, probing into all parts of that campaign. >> daniel lippman, danny cevallos, happy thanksgiving, gentlemen. >> gobble gobble. the first time members of congress are back home since the impeachment inquiry began. what do their constituents have to say about it? , you spend less and get way more.

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political reporter as a raw, unsettling manifestation of the living on different planets tenor of the impeachment hearings. she's not alone, dean phillips, who flipped a red district blue, told constituents, i didn't run for congress to impeach a president. back with me, democratic strategist basil smikle and spokesperson for ted cruz's presidential campaign ron dearing. ron, when you're in one of the these purple district, how to navigate this, what we've heard from a lot of republicans is echoing what the president has to say. but if you're trying to get suburban women won over and we know that women are far ahead of men on impeachment, it gets tricky. what's your advice to someone who is republican and running in one of the these districts? >> so we have seven districts like that in california which the democrats took away from us

and we're not going to get them back by talking about impeachment one way or the other. nobody in either party wants to go back to their district and discuss this and just have a replay of what we've seen play out on national television. i think the advice for republican candidates is to make their campaign local, about issues affecting their particular district, and to leave the national politics out of it. >> the problem is, though, you get a town hall or you get a campaign event and somebody asks you about it and people know when you're not answering their questions. >> right, right. which is why you don't want anyone to show up at these town hall meetings because they're just going to talk about this and no progress is going to be made, because we're in such a polarized environment right now. >> i would like to think, basil, there are people out there in these swing districts who really are being thoughtful about who they want to elect. we mentioned dean phillips in minnesota who flipped a red seat blue, it had been in red hands since 2009. the very first question he got was about impeachment. and he talked about how he had

struggled with it. even jon tester, obviously a senator, he's not going to be up for reelection but he just had a tough race. he got a question about impeachment. what do you do if you're one of these democrats who has either been in a tough race or just flipped a district like those folks in orange county and elsewhere in california? >> my guess is what you do is you say, look, this is where we are in the process, we figure it will be over by christmas, and then we can start talking more about policy. what got us victories in 2018 was, as mentioned earlier, running these hyperlocal races, not nationalizing them. it will be hard to do that but if those members in those flipped districts go home and assure their voters this is going to be wrapped up very quickly, we figure you're on one side or another, you've already made up your mind, we have to pivot back to up your mind. we have to pivot back to policy and democrats have to do that anyway. so i think that's the message you send to voters. this is not going to run through the next year, throughout the

year and take away from the things you want to talk about. >> so we have only 30 seconds left, but let's say this all gets wrapped up, you know, it is basically done, finished, senate does its business the first couple of months of next year. how long if you're a republican do you keep talking about this? >> oh, i think you want to get past this as quickly as possible. i mean, whenever you're having to play defense or explain away or recast in a -- defending a president of your open party under threat of impeachment that's not a good position to be in. the democrats learned about this in the 1990s with bill clinton. >> but they're not using it to defend him, but saying this is a witch-hunt, a hoax. >> that argument works with the republican base, but it won't get anyone to -- the swing voters who they need in order to win, particularly when you're dealing with districts who have a large suburban population that are responding to a different set of issues. >> ron, basil, to be continued.

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this afternoon the president is expected to do what he has every thanksgiving, address our men and women in uniform who are serving overseas this holiday. this year's call comes at a

unique moment for the nation's military with the recently fired secretary of the navy blasting the command ever in chief. richard spencer was ousted in the disagreement in the case of eddie gallagher. gallagher was charged with war crimes but he was committed on a lesser charge of posing with a dead isis soldier. he was facing demotion until the president intervened. today in a new "washington post" op-ed, secretary spencer is stepping up the criticism of the president. quote, this was a shocking and unprecedented intervention in a low level review. it was also a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military to fight ethically or be governed by the uniform set of rules and practices. joining me medal of honor recipient and military analyst, colonel jack jacobs. colonel, happy thanksgiving, first of all to sue and to you and the rest of the family. what do you make of the op-ed and do you think he makes some valid points?

>> well, he makes very valid points. the point is he's got an op-ed for one day and then it's going to fall by the wayside, nobody is going to pay very much attention to it unfortunately. because he is talking seriously about some very serious things. order and discipline in the service, the ability of officers to police themselves, to determine who among them will be among them without interference for political reasons from any quarter. so he makes some very good points indeed. there is no doubt that the president does not know very much about the military. >> and you know, this has gotten headlines not just here, frankly, but headlines elsewhere. i wonder if you have had any conversations about how this might look to our allies, but i guess also our adversaries. >> yeah. i have been talking to a lot of people and thinking about this. of course we are focused a great deal on the domestic aspects of it that what happens to troops when they see this sort of thing

that happens. do leaders have to work harder to get their troops in line, all this is true. we don't think very much about how this looks to others. the united states as a result of all of this and some other things looks like not a first rate military establishment, but a third rate circus. and both friends and adversaries have begun to question whether or not we really are in control of the use of the military instrument and whether or not we'll be able to use it when we need to. >> let me talk to you in our final minute or so about the president who will as so many others address our troops for thanksgiving. what does this mean? i mean, take the party out of it. what does it mean to members of the military to have this from their commander in chief and is there something you think that is important for him to say? >> well, i think it's important

for leaders of all stripes whether they're in the military or particularly political leaders to make sure that they keep faith with the troops, especially those who are deployed and we increasingly have people who have been deployed for dozens of tours. they're far away from home. they're defending 250 million americans with actually a very small percentage of the american public in uniform. they know they have an extremely difficult job, that there are threats around the world and we may not be capable of defending against them. it's important that they know that there are people back in the states who haven't forgotten them. especially in times that it looks like the national command authority and, by the way, the leadership in the house and the senate too. neither one of them has a good grip on the important things that are being done by the troops and how important it is to do them properly. >> you give us an opportunity to

say thank you to all of those who are serving for us. many of them separated from their family and friends and many of them in harm's way. colonel jack jacobs, thank you, sir. always great to talk to you. happy thanksgiving. >> thank you, chris, to you too. that's going to wrap it up for this hour. i'm chris jansing. more news with ali velshi who ran home to bake a pumpkin pie. >> i gave you a sincere happy thanksgiving not registering fully we'd do this twice. so i sincerely mean it this time. >> as do i. to you and yours, happy thanksgiving and you're off after this. enjoy your weekend. >> thank you. happy thanksgiving to you. rudy giuliani playing defense with democrats. the media and his own boss. headline after headline shows he's under scrutiny as federal prosecutors dig into his firm's business