and thank you for watching this msnbc special. of course i'll see you weeknights on the beat. lots more to come. these next few weeks are going to be extraordinary and we think historic. 20 years. >> let's play hardball. >> obama drama. to the moon and back. no one's ever late for an execution. don't tax you, don't tax me, tax that fellow behind the tree. high noon on gun control. no country for old men. hope for the pope. mutiny for the wacko birds. could it really be trump versus hillary next year? you say you want a revolution. size matters, day four. friends without benefits. moscow nights.

white house rumble. to russia with love. mueller time. individual one. a trumped-up emergency. cohen doubles down. bar fight. who's a friend of big bad mueller? second term or prison term? the whistle-blower versus the tweeter. let's play hardball. let's play hardball. >> i'm chris matthews. let's play hardball. >> how great is that? >> second term or prison term? bar fight, i love that one. but size matters, i mean let's just stop right there. >> chris, seriously that's the most important part of the day. everything else revolves around 7:00 p.m. every night. where did you get that idea? >> well, i guess a couple of things. an 8-year-old kid once said they love this show because they love the opening. they love the let's play hardball thing. a lot of it's generic.

we kept saying it. a lot of this stuff, tell me something i don't know on the sunday show. a lot of it it's do it once and yeah let's do that. that's how it works. >> well, how did we do? >> you did good. you got to say it like you don't plan to do it, it just comes. >> well, you know, it's called hardball for a reason. >> it is. over the past two decades chris has earned his reputation as one of the toughest interviewers on television. let's watch. >> tell me what chamberlain did wrong. >> chamberlain -- >> what did he do? >> his policies the things he supported -- >> are you an innocent man? >> very much so.

i never, ever intended to sell a senate seat for financial gain. when the prosecutor said he was stopping crimes before it happened that prosecutor mutilated the truth. i was conducting politics to get the most done for the people of illinois. and the truth -- >> we're just going in circles. we've just gone in a circle. >> why? >> because you said you did nothing wrong but two minutes ago you said you didn't know if it was wrong or not. why don't you stay out of peoples lives if you really want limited government? >> maybe it's that you're so misguided you think i'm misguided -- >> i've been reading your party's platform. do you? it's not just rotten apples. it's your point of view. was he legitimately elected president of the united states? >> president obama was elected president. >> legitimately.

>> people elected him, yes. >> so he's a natural born citizen. >> i didn't make that judgment when he was brought in. >> are you tom delay with your political and professional career history in the united states government questioning this man's -- >> no. >> you're questioning it. you want to see his paper. >> chris, the constitution of the united states says -- >> i know it. but i'm not asking for yours. a couple of his people said they believe president obama is a legitimately elected president of the united states. >> i confirm that and -- >> when did he do that? >> two years ago. three years ago. >> he has now accepted birtherism is nonsense? >> look, hillary clinton's campaign -- >> when did he do that? he did not do that yet. i'm waiting for him to do it. >> ken cuccinelli could have turned around and said, hey, do you know he's for late term

abortion -- >> how do you know that's a policy of terry mccullof's? >> i don't. >> other colleges and universities should be tuition free. >> how do you pass it through the senate? >> you pay for it through a tax on wall street -- >> who's going to pay that tax? >> the american -- chris, you and i look at the world differently. you look at it inside the beltway. i'm not an inside the beltway guy. >> but the people that vote on taxes are inside the beltway. who's your favorite foreign leader? anywhere in the country, anywhere on the continent. >> i ges i'm having an aleppo moment on -- >> i'm giving you any part of the world you like. >> the former president of mexico. >> which one? >> i'm having a brain --

>> oh, my god. chris, that was incredible. so your interviews are tough. your interviews are honest. you know your stuff, and that's all part of it. but is the secret sauce your love for politics? what is it? >> well, in those cases i sort of scan the intellectual map to figure what doesn't this guy or person know what they're talking about? like trump with abortion rights, he didn't know what the pro-life issue was. i don't ask them what they want to talk about. i ask them what they don't want to talk about. i do push them. i get accused of badgering them. but other shows can ask questions twice before being accused of badgering. but people who back them don't like harsh questions.

>> i thought your back and forth with bernie was really revealing. of course how funny a guy that's been in washington, d.c. for a quarter of a century or more is calling you a washington insider. that's funny. but, you know, whether it's donald trump saying mexico's going to pay for the wall or bernie saying that he's going to get 60 votes for free college or we have elizabeth warren -- it seems like every four years people make promises that just aren't realistic. how important is it that you've been there -- and again it's not what you're for or against. it's what you know is possible. politics is the art of the possible. and you learn that at the shoulder of one of the greats in congressional history, tip o'neil. >> joe, you know the whole thing. you served in the house. you know how it works. the senate is the cooling dish, the cooling saucer.

it takes 60 votes. for example, senator warren says she's going to get rid of the filibuster. go ahead and try because there's a lot of traditional democrats who believe in the institution and know the senate is distinct from the house because it's hard to get something through there. it does take 60 votes. you get rid of the filibuster rule and it's a house of 60 members. it's easier said than done. anytime i hear someone talk about frutuition, i go okay if you can get it with 50 or 51 votes you can get rid of it with another 50 votes in the next election. you've got to build your house on a stronger foundation than 50 votes. you need 60 votes. >> has anything prepared you for the age we find ourselves in where you have a white house and in fact a large part of my former republican party who

lives by as kellyanne conway said an alternative reality, alternative facts, the truth as known. the objective truth just doesn't matter. >> well, you know back when i went to college before you guys we didn't have google or social media. so at midnight when you're arguing with someone in the dorm the way to shut somebody up was $5, and that was a lot for us. boy, people shut up when they hear that. if there's one way to shut people up, you're not going to get $5 unless you're right. not in those days. that could buy you three or four memes. that's a great way to end the argument and tell who's bluffing, who says something just because it's coming out of their head. but if you want to put money behind it, put your money where your mouth is. >> next up, chris, your producer

scoured the "hardball" vault for some memorable moments with celebrities and politicians. let's take a look. >> let me ask you, ben, general hammond does me rather well. nagt i try to do him sometimes. he's so damn good at me. i've heard through the grapevine through my producers you can do me. >> you're on the show. what do you know? what are you here for? what do you got? why am i talking to you? go ahead and answer. >> i think that was howard custel, but nice try. >> your uncle got ahold of robert de niro and insisted the guy do philly right. all the philly talk, he insisted that de niro, one of the great actors of all-time get it right. >> yeah, and bob really is --

>> do you like being able to call robert de niro bob? >> i do. i like better calling him dad. >> you also vowed to lower incarceration rates. hardball, reverend. how are you going to do both? >> i want to be president and you want to grow up and be chris matthews. >> you have a broadcasters voice, do you know that? >> thanks. i'll stick to my day job if they'll let me. >> i never would chris matthews ask a question -- >> my problem is that i have the chris matthews syndrome. i want to break in, i want to talk too fast and i want to fan too much information and you'd be lousy at these debates chris. >> for professional reasons who would be the best setup material for the next 4 to 8 years.

>> can i ask a question? >> yes, sir. >> can you slow it down a peg? i feel like i got oatmeal in my head. >> let me ask you a question slower. who would you as a comedian most like to see elected president? >> as a comedian? i'd like to see mr. t. elected president. can i recommend something to you before i go? punk chewiation. >> steve kornacki at the board with a look at "hardball" by the numbers. and remember when chris matthews was challenged to a dual? that's coming up, too. >> congratulations on an incredible run, chris. 20 years of "hardball." you can inhale now. >> i've been watching you for 20 years, and i am still struck by your insights and the way you get politics and get into the

areas where nobody else would have thought of it. >> i'm deeply moved by your journalistic clarity and more importantly by the truth you've been telling us. >> hi, chris. i want to wish you a very happy 20th anniversary. i remember a little bit more than 20 years ago when you told a group of us that you were thinking of doing a tv show. i thought, what? and now here you are. i cannot believe it's been 20 years. >> chris, congratulations. it's been an honor, a privilege and a real pleasure to cover the history in the making with you all these years. >> i congratulate you on 20 terrific years. >> congratulations, my friend. you know, i've learned a lot sitting at that table over the years. i've learned to wait until you ask the question, then answered the question and then critiqued your answer before i respond. >> new rule, chris matthews owes

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for the democrats, would you respect them? >> yes. >> why? >> of course i would. i've seen that happen from time to time. >> jim jeffreys of vermont switch parties -- it's a tough question. it takes a few words. >> get out of my face. if you're going to ask me a question, sit back and let me ask it. you know i wish -- i wish we lived in the day where you could challenge a person to a dual. now that would be pretty good. >> i'll tell you all these years later i still don't know what the hell that was about. >> welcome back to "hardball." that was the first and only time an msnbc host was challenged to a dual by a politician. that's never happened to you, right? >> not yet. >> let's head over to steve kornacki at the big board to break down the numbers on 20 years of "hardball." >> yes, 20 years of "hardball" on msnbc. of course the true die hard fans remember the chris matthews

television phenomenon goes back further than that. remember there was politics with chris matthews on america's old talking network. then that went away. then "hardball" on cnbc and finally 20 years ago "hardball" on msnbc with chris matthew. what are some of the big numbers that stand out? six president of the united states. six commanders in chief have appeared on "hardball" with chris matthews on msnbc. you had former president carty, president gerald ford, and every current president starting with bill clinton, george bush, barack obama and yes donald trump has appeared a couple of times on "hardball" with chris matthews. it's also eight presidential nominees, eight candidates from president from the major parties have appeared on "hardball." some blasts from the past right here. eight presidential nominees and

countless -- we tried to start tal yeing these and candidates for president. democrats, republicans running for president in their primaries, all the elections since this show came to msnbc. too large to count. and this year that tally has certainly grown. if you're running for president, you're going to be on "hardball" with chris matthews. how about this, chris himself impersonated on the gold standard of pop culture. "saturday night live" 26 times chris has been impersonated. i remember i was covering the 2004 presidential primary up in new hampshire. saturday before the primary big bar, everybody in the media is there. tv has "snl" on, darrell hammond comes out to do chris matthews. the door opens in the bar, chris matthews walks in, the place went crazy. really memorable moment there. darrell hammond came on a few times and that set a regard for

the most haws. chris matthews there. and you mentioned the dual, 2004 and came on after and challenged chris to a dual. how about 2.8, this happened where chris was -- when this happened it was 2.8 miles from the sight of the burr-hamilton dual. chris matthews, miller, almost turned into a dual but it didn't. 20 years of chris matthews here on msnbc. congratulations to you, chris. back to you. >> that's really nice. i've got to tell you you ask me all the time why i love "hardball." you're like why am i obsessed with it because i freak out at 6:58 p.m. i love it because he loves it. >> not only that, but six presidents, countless presidential candidates, 26

times impersonated on "s." those are the cute numbers, but the fact is chris matthews, we've marked our time. certainly politics in this century and even the end of last century was defined by chris matthews and this show. there's so much noise out there. there's so much chatter out there. this show still matters like it always has. and chris, we just want to thank you for letting us be a part of this, to just thank you for all you've done. not only for us and this network but more importantly for the conversation of the country. >> well, i got to congratulate you guys in return because you guys created something in the morning nobody else ever did. i always like to say when president trump is sitting in his bubble bath watching fox and friends you guys are putting on a real news show, and it's a hell of a good thing. you created it. >> we really share your love for

politics. when "hardball" returns, another surprise guest will join chris to celebrate 20 years. hint, she's the queen of "hardball." you're watching "hardball." we'll be right back. >> "hardball" is a great show. you've done great work. you ask tough questions. you have a great political head, and i hope there are many, many more years of success. >> hi, chris matthews. it's michael bennett from colorado coming to you from manchester, new hampshire, to congratulate you on 20 years of "hardball." >> chris, congratulates on 20 amazing years. look forward to see what the next 20 will be like for you. >> hey, chris, happy 20th anniversary of "hardball" and thanks for always throwing the fast pitches. >> i cannot think of a better time to have chris matthews on-air than right now during this trump era because you don't take any bull, you keep pushing through, and mostly you cover what matters. can't wait to see the next 20 years. >> to chris and the whole "hardball" team congratulations

on 20 years of smart analysis, spirited debate and always telling it like it is. >> you're one of the best for the power of the fourth estate. you're a fierce watchdog for the american people, so keep on grilling us. >> every time i come on the show i never know what types of hardballs, curve balls will come my way but i can always expect pride from the professionals on the team because they put that on the show every night. so here's to many more years to chris matthews and the team shaking the dialogue. >> your determination to get to the truth, your passion and energy for the field of journalism, and you really know how to laugh. >> keep up the great work especially in this time for our nation. your show, your journalism, your willingness, your guts is what this country needs. willingness, your guts is what this country needs so when a hailstorm hit, usaa reached out before he could even inspect the damage. that's how you do it right.

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ahhhh! -ahhhh! elliott. you came back! i'm joined right now by the person who knows me better than anyone else, my wife, kathleen, the queen. there you are, kathleen. and it's your segment. >> this has been your life, right? >> twice as long as this show. >> we will be celebrating our 40th wedding anniversary in 2020. so 1999, steve kornacki went through the numbers and here are our numbers. married almost 40 years. we met in 1978. >> wiat the radio tv

correspondents dinner. >> we have a great picture of us in that first year when we wereidating. we haven't changed that much, have we? >> no, i've stayed exactly the same. you've become more glamorous i think. >> and think about that, we did a fabulous first family safari to africa in that summer before. >> what year was that? >> 1999. it was the first trip of taking the kids to africa. >> we went around to all these wild places in kenya very few people go. and we found real animals. >> and our kids are grown up now obviously but caroline at that point was only 10 years old, thomas was in 7th grade and michael was a sophomore in high school. >> back then we went to showers made out of river water and a big sort of a plastic bag of water to throw on your head and smelled of the river. >> that's right. and bill clinton was the

president. very popular over in africa. what was he like to cover for you on "hardball"? >> a mixed bag like many politicians. i think he was smart as a whip. i think he got in trouble with monica and some other things that sort of put a mark on his presidency. but he was a moderate democrat. i think he figured out a way to save the democratic party when it was in trouble. he was very respected. that was quite a victory for him. >> and succeeded by bush's son, george w. bush. >> i just thought that had nothing to do with 9/11. and he got talked into it and led the world into a war that cost 100,000 people their lives and left us and israel without a bunker between us and iran. they said it was to protect our security and it made us less

secure. we would have been much better off with iran and iraq going at each other. >> fast forward to trump. did you ever imagine a presidency like this? >> no, and i don't want to use this anniversary to take another shot at him except to say there was a part of shot that he's repressed, which was interesting. the part that sort of gatsby, the sort of lower, the individual against the establishment. a bit like citizen cane. there's a very american piece there, but that's been smaugtered over by the indecency of the guy. there was a lot of important stuff going on there and that's why people i think voted for him. and once he got into power he didn't elevate himself to the office. he took shots at peoples physical disabilities, at their looks, their voice, their gender. this is something our parents

taught us not to do. you cannot have a president -- the ends do not justify the means. >> this is what we talk about at night. every night he comes home at 8:00, 8:30, we sit down at dinner and the conversation -- >> i will i find an old movie i like and you can't figure out. up next my thoughts on 20 years of "hardball." >> chris, 20 years in and you are still throwing the heat on "hardball." you're the first thing i watch after i finish my broadcast each evening. your unique ability to cut through the daily heapings of political word salad has never been more important. congratulations on a remarkable milestone. 20 years and wishing you many more. go get them, pal. >> chris, congratulations on 20 years of "hardball" on msnbc. as a philly girl you have always been one of my biggest inspirations. you've turned tough interviews into an art. you are one of the true pillars

of our dem ocracy. >> congratulations, chris matthews, the entire "hardball" team for your success for your 20th anniversary. >> hey, chris and the "hardball" crew, congratulations on 20 years. it is astounding, amazing and impressive. and before i started in nightly television and someone told me this show just sell bratded 20 years, i'm like good for them. and now i'm like how did you do it? >> chris, it's more than 20 years, but this is the beauty of you, chris matthews, is that you're always so youthful, you're always so energetic. even though you've been doing this i think 30 years we've decided it's only 20 years. that's how energetic and you've actually changed the space time continuum. >> how do you do it? i don't know. you're a joy, a pleasure, you're one of my favorites to be on the air with and watch. >> congratulations on 20 years. this is nautica rear, by the way. this is 20 years playing one

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when you first wake up in the morning and you first become al gore at the break of dawn, does that al gore want to be president? >> i'm actually al gore while i'm asleep also. >> what are you dreaming of? the white house?

>> that was my college tour with al gore in 2002. >> here at stanford university from george mason university in virginia. live from chaplain university in southern california. live from the university of albany. from fordham university then bronx, new york. live from the university of denver, the university of notre dame. in iowa. senator john mccain. let's play "hardball." arnold schwarzenegger. john kerry. robert de niro. matt damon. robin williams.

joe biden of delaware. live from westchester university outside philadelphia, the "hardball" college tour with our special guest senator barack obama. let's play "hardball." i promised you the president of the united states, and he's here. let's play "hardball." hillary clinton. welcome to this exclusive town hall. tonight for a full hour our guest is the front-runner for

the presidential nomination, donald trump. should a woman be punished for getting an abortion? and the isis not something you can dodge. if you say abortion is a crime or murder you have to deal with it under the law. should abortion be punished? >> well, people within certain parts of the republican party and conservative republicans would say, yes they should be punished. >> how about you? >> i would say it's a very serious problem. >> do you believe in abortion is a problem, yes or no as a principle sph. >> the notion is there has to be some form of punishment. >> for the woman? >> yes, there has to be some form. >> my last interview with him obviously. for the past two decades i've had the honor of interviewing many presidents in this show from gerald ford to jimmy carter to barack obama. what are you going to do in that

first debate when al gore tries to knock your teeth out one chop after another but you're going to scare the old ladies, you're going to scare the women? you made the statement this week you're standing by the decision you made the momentous decision to pardon your predecessor in the white house. just talk about your decision about that feeling after all these what's a quarter century ago? >> i feel more strongly today, chris, than i did when i actually signed the pardon document. and i'm pleased to see that the public are now supportive of what i did in that very tough decision. >> has a woman president -- has that time arrived, obviously talking about secretary clinton here. >> well, i think it's always been here. we should have considered a long time ago women were equal to right in public office in this country. i'm not taking a position but

just to show america lacks behind women in public office and equal pay. >> every election is a choice. if you have to run against the ideal if it's a referendum every one of us will get beat. we'd have nobody in office because there's no such thing as the perfect public servant. >> how many kids here want to go into politic snz. >> that's a pretty good number. >> are they right? >> it continues to be a way to serve that i think can be noble. it's hard. it can be frustrating. you've got to have a thick skin. but i tell you, the satisfaction you get when you've passed a law or you've taken an executive action and somebody comes up to you and says you know what, my kid's alive because you passed that health care bill because he was uninsured, he got insurance,

got a checkup and we caught a tumor in time. or you see somebody and say, you know, you helped me save my house, and i can't tell you what that means. it's pretty hard to get greater satisfaction than that. >> people often ask me what was the most important story i covered on the past two decades. we've lived through incredible moments of course from the florida recount to the horrors of september 11th to the historic election of barack obama. but one event stands out as the single most disastrous policy in american history. it was something so epicably stupid it makes everything pale in comparison, and we covered it aggressively, politically and d doggedly and that's coming up next. >> chris, i want to congratulate you on 20 years of "hardball" and being helpful to me in the

white house. you did a good job then and you've done a fine job with "hardball." so thank you very much. >> congratulations, chris. now let's play hardball. >> when i first met you you were sharp, you were smart, you were in courageable. >> i've learned a lot about politics. >> from one irishman to another, congratulations on a very successful 20-year run. may you enjoy the next 20 years as much as you have in the past. >> chris, congratulates on 20 years of "hardball." what an incredible milestone. >> a huge enormous congratulations to you for an extraordinary run in a very, very tough business. >> hey, chris. congratulations. now let's play hardball. , chris. congratulations.

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in the fall of 2001 in the weeks after 9/11 i began to catch whiffs of war. people like vice president dick cheney and large spaces in the op-ed part of the newspapers were pushing for war with iraq. there was no real evidence iraq had anything to do with the september 11th attacks, but that didn't stop the push for war. and what depressed me was how gullible the country had become. ted kennedy was the one noble exception calling his vote against the iraq resolution the most important of his storied career. we covered the iraq war most innenti inintently in the months leading up to it and most passionately in opposing it. why are we getting a pr campaign being run in the american media pushing us to war with iraq? why is everybody pushing this war attitude, the drum beat? what's causing it if their only number six of a list of dangers?

i worry that the united states is going to invade iraq and worry about huge casualties by us, let's find a way to stop the hus tilt and why do we have ambassadors to all those countries? why do have a state department? if we still have to figure out why we're going to war with iraq, don't we a problem right there? i'm totally against this war. i read the resolution. the provision is clear. he can do anything he wants under the provision you agreed to. it's an absolute blank check. over the past two decades i've had the honor not only of a front row seat to history but have a voice in the national political conversation. i never thought i'd still be saying this the night after the election, but this race is still too close to call. it was only last week and a few trips to the u.s. supreme court but this country will have a new

president-elect. one week has passed since terrorist attacks destroyed the world trade center and damaged the pentagon. and hope for finding survivors in the rubble is fading fast. welcome to this special edition of "hardball." it's 2:30 in the morning baghdad time right now and we're in the fifth day of this war. nbc news now projects that californians have recalled governor gray davis from office, he's out of office and have chosen arnold schwarzenegger to replace him. americans elect president george bush. california congresswoman nancy pelosi is elected the first woman speaker of the house ever, making her second in line to the american presidency. in two hours the president sells america on an escalation on our partner in iraq civil war. watching history i saw barack obama declared for president.

tonight huge political news. john mccain has pulled the most stirring come back since the big screen come from behinds of rocky balboa. with todays dropping out of mitt romney, the senator of arizona looms as the presidential nominee for 2008. the news broke last night hillary clinton is suspending her campaign and endorsing senator barack obama this saturday. our 45th president is going to be barack obama. it actually happened. we watch this develop like an old polaroid for two years now. to get our heads around it and understand why it happened, how things like this happened. this shooting happened at sandy hook elementary school. the history of americans being written tonight. the supreme court of this country heard arguments whether two people of the same sect should be allowed a public recognition of theirparage. it's happened after four

campaigns of promising donald trump has made the leap at least into the first debay. donald trump will be the next president of the united states, proving nearly all the polls wrong trump racked up victories in states like pennsylvania, wisconsin, ohio and nra. >> today was a day of history. the country's top investigator of an american president shifted the guilt to the u.s. congress. the question now is to impeach or not to impeachmism today the speaker of the house made a decision to initiate impeachment proceedings against the president. up next, 20 years of "hardball" on msnbc. >> it's reverend al sharpton wishing chris matthews a happy 20th anniversary. 20 years of excellence. >> wow, 20 years. that's practically -- do you realize an entire generation has

grown up hearing ha? >> i don't know how america did without "hardball" for the previous 20 years. >> chris, congratulations on this anniversary, playing "hardball" for 20 years. >> you know every nook and cranny about washington politics and i love hearing all the stories, sitting next to you on the next flight to the debate or primary or paying respects to a former president lying in state. happy 20th. here's to many more playing "hardball." >> chris, 20 years. i've been watching you for 20 years. >> hey, chris. it's ben stiller. i wanted to say i really love your show. i'm a huge fan. happy 20th anniversary. >> chris, congratulations. a warm greeting to you from bangkok at 3:30 in the morning. 20 years, man. that's awesome. >> hey, i just wanted to say congratulations to chris matthews from one irish catholic to another.

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let's play hardball. "hardball"'s on msnbc tonight as well as cnbc so i've got to explain terms. here's the definition of hardball, it's clean aggressive machiavellian politics. useful to any professional undertaken but practiced most openly unashamedly in the world of politics. this is an important chair i have the honor to sit in each night. i promise to give it all the honor it deserves and to thank those who give it to me. my bosses at msnbc and nbc news. my producers, my directors and crew and really the hardball regulars out there you who get together with me with amazing

faithfulness. we love this country. that's why we care, we hope and why we will through sickness and health, through sorrow and yes national disgrace one day march forth to save it. and that's "hardball" for now. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on a special edition of "all in." >> there are a lot of systemic threats. but that doesn't because some things are broken you throw it out and set it on fire. >> on the threats posed by president trump. >> it's really bad. it's not normal bad. it's a threat to the republic and order of american society bads. >> then lifelong republican steve mschmidt on the global impact of trump. >> we've seen chaos in the world so we've entered this consequences stage of the trump presidency.