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well, this is "up", i'm david gura on a sunday where lawmakers are on capitol hill getting ready for the next phase of impeachment. they turn their attention to writing actual articles. in the new report focused on abuse, bribery and corruption, house democrats make the case for impeachment as republicans demand a postponement. rudy giuliani is threatening to shake up the swamp with a report of his own, saying the president seems to be encouraging. days away for the deadline to qualify for the next democratic debate. so far all qualifiers are white. that led several candidates to criticize the process, including cory booker and julian castro. he will join us this morning on "up". and cutting 700,000 americans from the food stamp program

before christmas. a contributor to the hill. and christine, the former speaker of new york city council. and with us from washington this morning josh gersten from political and msnbc contributor. ahead of tomorrow's impeachment hearing we will hear evidence on the intelligence and judiciary committees. that will be barry burk and steven kastor. he is doing double duty for the intelligence committee. president trump addressed all of this saturday on his way to florida. >> will you testify?

>> well, i know this. the impeachment thing is a total hoax. the numbers have swung our way. they don't want to see impeachment, especially in the swing states, they swung away. i have never seen a swing like this. because people realize it was a total hoax. we had a perfect conversation. it was only a conversation. nothing came out of the conversation except good relationship with ukraine. >> he has never seen a swing like this. meanwhile, the president's personal attorney has been in ukraine and hasn't revealed the purpose of that trip. rudy giuliani said he will reveal it, quote, when he's ready. the president, meanwhile, said this. . >> well, i just saw he came back from someplace and he's going to make a report i think to the attorney general and congress. he says he has a lot of good information. i have not spoken to him about that information. but rudy, as you know, has been one of the great crime fighters of the last 50 years. and he did get back from europe

just recently. i hear he has found plenty. >> that kind of relationship with a attorney worth every penny the president is not paying. tied to this report came out yesterday, the framers worse nightmare is what we are facing in this very moment the constitution details one remedy for this misconduct. that is impeachment. this is a document that has historical analog. we saw the same title back in 1974. >> well, i saw it as a prepwulgts against what they expect will be republicans arguments on various technical grounds that the president isn't guilty of a crime. that maybe he is not technically guilty of bribery or without certain defenses in a court of

law to lay out the argument that this is not about the technical definitions of what would apply in criminal court but a broader spectrum of presidential misconduct that could endanger and menace, i think is the word, the country. they want to say abuse of power is squarely part of this. doing things that are corrupt even if they don't meet criminal definitions. >> you have been through hearings like this. just help us understand the importance of this one tomorrow. how important is what we are going to see in the hearing room tomorrow? >> well, i think we are seeing this reset after thanksgiving. a lot of americans checked out.

off of this report they get from the intelligence committee, they will begin writing actual articles of impeachment. how will they put it together. and is there any information? we saw the information put out since, they have the phone log with the white house and rudy giuliani. they are continuing to investigate. they are continue to go see information, new documents. it would be interesting if they were able to slip in new information to drive the day tomorrow. >> how do you rate the synthesis thus far? we have more testimony. how well have the democrats done simplifying this, making this clear to the american people? >> well, i think the democrats have done remarkably well. there was tremendous concern it would be a circus, complete chaos, that speaker pelosi wouldn't be able to control the members. well, first of all, she's the

bomb. don't mess with her. don't put words in her mouth. enough said. she has done a remarkable job of letting the republicans hang themselves. so we're now, as you said, the final lap. we just need to get more processing done so we can move on. they are doing better than i expected and better than a lot of people expected. they are very disciplined which usually are not. >> it doesn't make sense for them to, right? what argument can you make? the facts are what they are. the best thing you can attempt

to do is muddy up the process by saying, well, republicans should get an opportunity to call xy and z witnesses. that plays to the base very well. but moving some of the swing voters, they are getting more concerned about this. i think what democrats have done a great job articulating, this is important because this is an embarrassment to the country. this is important because this diminishes our institutions. because the president is acting in a matter that isn't consistent with his sworn obligations to the constitution. and i will give them credit there. but i think what the white house is betting their bets on is the senate. where they were for a fact the president will not be convicted. this is where democrats are going to have to try to figure out some strategy here. what happens four or five months down the line? in february when voters say, okay, we did this process, we backed you guys, we started you guys but nothing happened. the senate didn't do anything. what next? i think donald trump is going to

run on that. >> to that point, i sat down with jamie raskin and he addressed this directly. he said this doesn't stop with the vote in the senate. there is a fox in charge of every hen house. a lot of oversight to still happen yet. how does it change the aggressive oversight we have seen in the house? >> we heard in the run-up to the 2018 midterm elections trump say if you elect a republican they're going to investigate us, impeach us. what if they rule they need mulvaney. they will appear to be relitigating impeachment later on.

that is one of the challenges they have had with the timeline. rushing to get everything done in the house by december 20th, which is what they tried to do. that is the strategic mistake in my opinion. it is giving trump license to blow them off. he doesn't have to participate is because democrats told them we will be done by december 20th. why participate in an investigation where you know the end date has already been determined. democrats would have been better slowing it down a bit and letting some of the hearings marinate. having eight hours, two different times, couple times a week is too much. . >> we could do a whole analysis of rudy giuliani. you drew the short straw here. what's he doing? the president not saying where he is. maybe he doesn't know where he is but alluded to the fact that he is gathering information. there is this new report. he could bring it to the justice department, attorney general bill barr. what about rudy? what is going on here as you see

it, josh? >> he is conducting an investigation of his own, along with working closely it appears with very conservative media outlets, particularly the one american news network, which is for people who feel that fox is not sufficiently pro-trump. he is a fact witness in these ongoing witnesses. it would be strong for him to appear in the flesh and testify to his direct involvement in his activities that led to this impeachment process. if he sends something to the hill or the justice department about interactions with the bidens and ukraine in 2016 or earlier, i think it will be an over the transome report coupled with a friendly presentation from a conservative media outlet rather than in-person

appearance. >> if he appears, then does congress get to ask what the insurance is and then ask the insurance. >> with everything going on here, nato, impeachment, new threats from north korea, trade war with china, upcoming elect, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera, you would think the president of the united states would have his plate full and be focused on the issues at hand. you would be wrong. >> we had a situation where we're looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on and areas where there is tremendous amounts of water. where the water rushes out to sea because you can never handle it. and you don't get any water. you turn on the faucet, and you don't get any water. they take a shower and the water

companies dripping out. it's dripping out, very quietly dripping out. people are flushing toilets 10 times, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up using more water. so epa is looking at that very strongly at my suggestion. but for the most part you have many states where they have so much water that it comes down. it's called rain. they don't know what to do with it. so we're going to be opening up that, i believe. >> wow. >> i believe. from draining the swamp to drains, the president of the united states. much more to get to including the 2020 contender not taking the fight to the president but also his own party. the war of words between elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg. >> what i'm particularly concerned about are the conflicts being created every single day when candidates for president set access to their time to the highest bidder. time to the highest bidder

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let's take a look at the numbers so far. in two weeks, according to the "washington post", bloomberg spent $60 million in television and radio ads, $4.6 million on

google ads. as far as his campaign staffing goes, he is offering $6,000 a month for field organizers compared to 3,500 being offered by the warren and sanders campaigns. he spends more on ads in the other top two candidates combined. as you hear all of this, the fact that he is working in 27 states, trying to build a ground game. you haven't seen a campaign like this since 1960 with the kennedy campaign, what do you make of this and his ability to do something we really haven't seen, if not ever, in a very long time? >> i think it's probably if not ever. have you ever heard whatever the numbers would be at any year, that amount of money. >> you gasped. >> it's crazy. it's more than senator harris

spent her entire race up until she dropped out, just to put it in perspective. it is no surprise bloomberg wants to be president of the united states. we have heard that a couple of times before. that he is spending personal money doesn't surprise me. once he's in, he's in. he's in now, and he is going to do everything he can not to lose. so that doesn't surprise me. it's -- they used to say having to raise money was a corrupt process. not blaming the people. but the process. elizabeth warren and others, there is a different type of corruption, a process that lets billionaires jump in in this way. he won't stand on one democratic primary stage but yet he has if you have money to command the country's attention.

there is something wrong with that. >> shermichael, there is that. his vanity, his interest in running for president, how that is playing out. and the nuts and bolts of it. will this lead to any success in they said look at the polls in a few weeks and look at the traction. >> if you look at the most recent clear politics data, four points. the amount of money that he has allows him to be in a lot of plates that other campaigns just cannot afford. he can build serious infrastructures. i think if you look at his history as a donor, he has a lot of goodwill with a lot of governors, mayors, leaders of organizations and a lot of very crucial and critical states. so i'm going to be watching in the next maybe 30, 60 days to see who are they hiring in some of these states? what are some of the voters they're targeting. what are some of the direct messages to the voters. in comparing those things to some of the other candidates, that will give a better idea of his ability to increase his

position in the polls particularly after iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina, which is where the focus is. >> the exchange with joe biden and the voter this week. he got angry about the question about his son while his son was on the board of burisma. there is a piece by marc caputo. acknowledging the fact this isn't something he hears about everywhere, but he will hear about it as the campaign continues. two methods of responding to his son's controversial business dealings, denial and anger. so far he doesn't have a clear and cogent message. how important is it for him to shape that as the campaign continues. >> one thing isn't that it is anger. if someone attacked your son as a father, yeah, you should be angry about that. that is an appropriate emotional response. i think what democrats don't always understand is the underlying anger that helped to pave the way for trump to get

elected in the first place. and voters are looking for someone who does get emotional about things. whether you like donald trump or not, whether you agree with what he says or not, there is emotion behind what he says and how he says it. that resonated with the american public. when biden does that, it resonates. it doesn't mean they get the facts straight on what his answer will be going forward on a debate stage. of course he does. but responding that way, that refreshingly and honest and sincere i think is a positive thing for him. >> i will ask you this quickly. there has been a debate raging between elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg on transparency. showcasing donorship, that he did with mckenzie. warren and buttigieg called each other out on opening fund-raisers to the news media, tax returns.

there is so much infighting. should their focus be outward rather than inward >> a waste of airtime. no one knows what they're talking about and nobody cares. it's just ridiculous. i don't want anybody fighting. it's too early. two, stay on issues that are bread and butter, that people care about. are they going to have health insurance. they may have a job, but it's not enough to provide a living for their family. not a random company that does an incredibly specific thing that no one knows what it is. it's silly.

>> the fact that elizabeth warren is going after this two or three years after buttigieg was out of college shows how well he is doing as a candidate. elizabeth warren needs to focus on her own issues as a candidate. for mayor pete, this is good news. it draws more attention to his campaign and tells voters there is something here about this guy that you should begin to look at. >> and warren still can't defend medicare for all. >> if this is the pivot -- >> big red flag right there. >> all right. with a single republican vote, democrats pass an historic piece of legislation to expand voters protections across the country. up next, the protracted war in my home state of north carolina. eric holder says voters in the tar heel state deserve better. that's next. tate deserve better. that's next. (man) you take care of yourself.

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version is less unfair than the original map, it is still too partisan. republicans ran out the clock on this one. it came just before candidates have to file. voting lines will be redrawn in 2021. he's with the national redistricting committee and advise tore former attorney general eric holder. i look at the column in the "new york times". it's an unfortunate ruling, because it rewards a political party for dragging its feet. >> first of all, thanks for having me on. we characterize this as a victory in the sense that it is the first time this decade that people in north carolina will be able to vote on a map that was not drawn to give republicans 10

of the states 13 congressional seats. there are lessons to be learned here. we're only two years away from the redistricting process happening again in north carolina and in states around the country. and i think we need to make sure that there are citizens who are engaged in this process who force state legislators to have transparency in what they are trying to do with the maps to take public input on what they try to do with the maps and make sure there is some sunlight on this process so they can't just ram through maps that are jerry manned erred for another decade. >> you have seen in a number of states efforts dealing with redistricting, what do you make of that? the public's engagement with this issue. groups like trying to convey the importance of this as an issue. is it sticking with voters? how do you get it to stick more? >> it is a very challenging issue to get to stick with voters. look, it's hard to get americans

shamefully to vote. i don't hope new york up. we have very bad voter participation. to understand how the districts are not voting in, to put it together, that is a real challenge. that said, it is critically important. because those local races have a huge impact on who gets into congress and other seats. but i wish i had the -- and this is the message we used in new york. it is challenging and we have to keep plugging away at it. >> what changed in june when we get the supreme court saying this isn't in their jurisdiction to deal with issues of jer gerrymanderi gerrymandering. >> we knew the redistricting would be a state-by-state fight. it would have been good had the supreme court said they were going to bring boundaries on gerrymandering. now we are going to have to go state by state to bring either

lawsuits based understate constitutions like we did in north carolina or, you know, just go state by state focusing on these important down ballot races to put in place people who will support fair maps and state legislativers and governor mansions. >> the members of congress, george holden will not seek re-election. and the district out in burlington, north carolina. put this for republicans retiring. he announced he wasn't going to run again. i should add candidly, yes, the newry redrawn districts were part of the reason i decided not to seek re-election. >> there was another congressman out of georgia. i can't recall his name. he is also retiring because of redistricting. look, the fact that these folks are retiring because they cannot compete in diverse communities i believe points to a much larger

issue with the republican party at large. it is one that i have got in arguing they need to address. since i have been a republican, i know a lot of friends of mine, even white friends who are younger, millennials, who view things very differently than a lot of older white guys who say, guys, we need to be competitive. the world is changing. we need to sort of readjust ourselves. and the message for the cultural and societal changes. look, if these guys can't win, i say it is what it is. we need a new republican party. you have to get rid of some of the old guys who have the same old racist and sexist ideas and views about the world in order for a newer generation to come in that can compete with a more competitive democratic party that i think is at the forefront of the demographic changes of the country. >> shermichael, you've got to be a democrat. >> thank you very much for the time. i appreciate it. national democratic redistricting committee.

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facebook's trove of data to press out its message using key groups of voters. the 72 hours after house speaker nancy pelosi's announcement, the trump campaign raised $15 million through small donations. the doak us on social media has been a successful strategy so far with ads capitalizing on his own rhetoric. the heavy influx of ads by the trump campaign are under new scrutiny. the federal election chair penned an op-ed saying social media is making it easy to direct political misinformation to them with little accountability because the public at large never sees the ad. with me to discuss the strategy is my panel back here in new york. curt, let me start with you. i look at the numbers. $15 million in small money donations. this is not chump change. this is a campaign that's been

successful at doing this. >> for them, if it ain't broke, don't fix it. wash, rinse, repeat. i'm surprised they haven't tried in some ways to do what trump is doing. if i were a democrat, take a clip from lindsey graham talking about process of impeachment and congressional authority. i would say lindsey graham supports impeachment. at some level democrats have to fight fire with fire if they are going to win. >> i look atom freeman's column in the "times". it is turning free press into a house of mirrors are citizens can longer longer discern fact from fiction. three years after the election. it seemseerly familiar. >> totally familiar. and i don't know whether congress or others think these big companies like facebook are just untouchable. i honestly think there is a level of, oh, people like mark

zuckerberg are smarter than us. they created this thing we were not familiar with. so we are not worthy. they are not judiciary experts. not only have we not dressed from from a hate and violence perspective. so this is far worse even than just election tampering. and i think americans should hold congress accountable for why they are letting this wage on. mark zuckerberg wanted to connect the world. he's twisted the world. >> having worked on the hill, most members have a real, i think fear. >> yes. >> anyone over 50 has no idea how to use any of these things. so i think the only solution is partly the voters have to put in younger people who grew up in the time of instagram, facebook,

and twitter. >> the election officials just have to say i don't know this. so bring it. >> you don't have staffers. >> right. >> to help guide them through the process. i would say politically what's very smart about what the trump campaign is doing is by messaging on facebook, because of the way their algorithm works, they are capable of targeting voters that you would not see in the poll, that pollsters can't call. they can't find on other digital websites. they are watching the process. they are opening the process. they are not active in the traditional sense. that is very, very smart. there could be a pool of potential voters, particularly white older voters that haven't really been engaged or unaccounted for in most data that's readily available that we may not be aware of that could give trump -- >> this is what happens on facebook. >> right, right, right. >> to curt's point, democrats, if they're smart, they would some kind of way play fire with fire, if you will, on facebook. take some of those statements

from someone like lindsey graham and run them consecutively over and over and over again. this is lindsey graham. he also backed impeachment. vote for us. >> it's an amazing investigation. 325,000 ad buys which is significant and something that came out here, there is a method to all the madness here. three messages that come out. democrats were against you, the democrats are against me, being the president. the democrats are against america. curt, i want to ask you lastly about what mark zuckerberg could do. there has been floated changes to the ad policy. the company would cap the number of ads and ban ads to three days leading up to an election. i guess this gets to the capacity of the understanding that mark zuckerberg has. this is something he couldn't have envisioned. >> twitter did. there is nothing stopping facebook from doing the same thing. they're a private company. they can make their own rules. they can do what i think many

would agree is the right thing. political advertising accounts for a small portion of their profit. maybe it's six months. after the primary. >> sherald sandberg said this is a negligeible amount. >> it doesn't really matter. you are able to target people via zip code, interests if you will. so you can target, i don't know, let's say 2 million people in one day. and i would argue mathematically, at least 15% would share those ad. so you wouldn't have the same input as sharing multiple ads but you would still see some type of success. >> a broader problem with policing the content on that. yesterday i got a message that said es and die, bad word. i reported it. the response i got back, which facebook owns, this doesn't

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i there this is "up". i'm david gura. democrats laying out the legal underpinnings. they want tomorrow's impeachment hearing postponed. republicans are drowning in documents. in a statement ranking member collins said democrats waited until after speaker pelosi announced that articles of impeachment were imminent and chose the eve of the impeachment hearing to share loads of documents that chairman schiff had since this investigation began. i should say democrats dispute what the ranking member is saying there. the tone has changed. >> mr. chairman.

>> reserving the right to object. >> objection is noted. >> i reserve the right to object. >> i will recognize myself for opening statement. . >> mr. chairman, parliamentary inquiry. >> mr. chairman, i have a motion under rule 11. >> the gentleman is recognized for the purpose of an opening statement not for the purpose of making a motion. . >> mr. chairman, before we get -- >> mr. chairman, members of the committee. >> i have a motion. >> i seek recognition. >> my job is to study. >> the gentleman will suspend. the time is the witnesses. >>? our friend curt having ptsd with all of the procedural objections. let me ask you about this, though. we had a smaller group of lawmakers hand selected by the leadership of both parties. this is a bigger committee. yes, there is crossover on the venn diagram in both communities. what is different now that we have a different group of representatives. how has that changed the tenor of the hearings going forward. >> we saw during corey

lewandowsky how effective republicans were with these antics derailing the hearing, at getting under nadler's skin. it didn't seem he was prepared for that, which is why he got benched for the last few months and the entire proceeding moved over to adam schiff. nadler did a much better job in the last hearing of keeping the hearing on the tracks, letting the witnesses talk, not letting the procedures knock them off. >> for that, adam schiff was the exemplar. >> that would be ideal for democrats. the challenge for republicans is this act will wear out. at some point it just looks desperate. when you constantly do the motions and do i want to have a recorded vote every single time. they go member by member. you see how divorce the democrats are and only all white people for the entire republicans. it's all the white people saying

no, no, no. >> mostly men. mostly men. . >> how surprised are you that the objections are still procedural at this point in the game? they have to deal with how things are being run. rule 660, which we have heard so much about. >> yes. >> talking about things abstr t abstract. mckenzie management and the ar contain rules of the house. >> they have decided they will try to vilify the democrats's process. they keep saying the new made up rules. i think they made the strategic decision and they are sticking with that. i think it will wear thin with americans very soon. they are like do this or don't do this. you know what i mean? what is this delay? you have had so many heart attacks already. this is a very hard spot for jerry nadler. he is a very intellectual person, scholarly lawyer. to have people kind of object to a highest and most important process really does get under

his skin. >> he's a gentleman. >> he is. >> he learned he had been bypassed to be the sister of the straight. >> what opposition? to throw anything out there. this makes me so embarrassed because i have so much respect for institutions, for processes. and i think it's very, very important for the two parties to start from a shared belief and agreement, we believe these are the standards and rules by which we will sort of coordinate our behavior, if you will. and i think it's impeccably difficult to do that. when one side says to hell with the rules. it doesn't matter what the president does. and that's why as i stated earlier we have to have a new

republican party. i thought so long maybe i should become an independent. >> yes. >> wait a second. >> to have two healthy parties is important. i think it's important. but it is difficult to debate with one party when one party don't have shared respect. there is no common belief. so i think you have to get rid of that version of the republican party so that there can be a new rendition, so we can have that healthy debate about economics, the role of government, about policies. those are good, beautiful things. under the current rendition, i don't know what he is going to do. from my perspective, and i say this as a conservative, democrats are doing the right thing. no one is above the law. you have to hold the president, regardless of party. >> which is what republicans used to believe. >> they had no problems getting closed door depositions and

subpoenas, all of the things they wrote when they were the majority. >> i can tell you if, if the election goes in a way that is unfavorable in my opinion, what i believe i'm fighting for, it won't matter any more. there will not be anything to fight for any more. maybe i can hope somewhere down the line, a new conservative can arise. and i'm hoping for that. but it is starting to become clear to me these folks don't care about that. and i think voters, even democrats, i think they want that. i think people want a healthy republican party. >> i agree. >> if it becomes clear that the republican party is going to continue to stand with trump as it is suggesting, then i will say good luck to you guys, good riddance, i'm going to become an independent. i wish you guys all the best. >> thanks very much for joining me here on set. coming up next, jerry nadler is

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hearings tomorrow morning. it's been a busy weekend on capitol hill. house democrats released a report on the underpinnings of impeachment. they started to make the case for abuse of power, bribery, obstruction. according to the "new york times", the report, which echoes one released in 1974 as the house debated impeopling richard,nixon comes do days before they formally receive the information against president trump. look at the covers of the report side by side. same title. 1974 was written by staffers from both political parties. not the case this time around. we will not hear from the president or his attorneys tomorrow in the hearing room. but the president continues to criticize the impeachment process everywhere else. >> people realize it's a total hoax. we had a perfect conversation. it was only a conversation. nothing came out of the

conversation except good relationship with ukraine. >> democratic congressman jamie raskin, member of the judiciary committee, addressed the pattern regarding ukraine during my interview with him up on the hill. >> it's all about a pattern of behavior. and here the evidence of a pattern of behavior comes screaming off of the page. we know it because the president has declared not only that his conduct is unimpeachable, but that it's perfect. so he is saying he will do it again. in this election, in fact, when he went to conduct the ukraine shakedown, right after mueller testified about the russian attack on our election, obviously the president felt a sense of immunity and impugnity. >> host of "the gist." the author of "upon further

review" and former u.s. attorney, msnbc contributor. with us from washington, covering congress for politico. andrew, another one of these weekends where there is action on capitol hill. >> that's right. . >> you have had staffers and lawmakers going through the ukraine matter. number two, obstruction of congress, which is of course the president's refusal to make witnesses available and turning over key ultimate dos to congress. the third issue, which remains murky, is whether anything from the mueller report and the obstruction of justice evidence will be looped into this process. somehow whether it is its own article or whether it could be sprinkled throughout the articles. that's something that democrats are talking about and strategizing amongst themselves. obviously as we have heard in recent days, many moderate and swing districts democrats are uncomfortable with the kitchen cinque approach. the idea that you would throw all the president's alleged miss deeds and misconduct into the articles of impeachment, including everything from not just mueller and ukraine but

emoluments and definitely dealing as well. moderate and swing district democrats are nervous about the approach. we should learn more in the coming days what democrats are going to do. that's one of the things they're talking about behind closed doors this weekend. >> we saw congressman jamie raskin. no tyias he made his way to house grounds. he made this point about a pattern of behavior. saying it's essential these documents show that. where do you stand on that? as you see this singular focus on that phone call, the behavior surrounding ukraine. as they listen, a renewed interest in what bob mueller wrote. >> so this is a conflict that prosecutors face every time they do a complicated white collar or public corruption case. there are always people who want to get every last bad act that a potential defendant did and others who think about the ultimate goal in a criminal trial, which is convincing a

jury to convict and convincing everyone on the jury to convict on at least some counts. so it's sort of a head versus heart issue as we look at trump. and the problem is he's done so many things that are truly awful, right? that none of this is surplusage. in a normal administration, all of this would amount to impeachable conduct. it would be heinous. here with democrats, they will have to let their heads rule, pick the worst events and go forward. i think it will be helpful to go back to the mueller investigation and include a count of okay instruction for this reason. the president continues to complain about the process, calling it a witch-hunt, calling the process unfair. it is important for the democrats to point out that the president has not played in good faith in the process. he withheld documents in the ukraine incident, hasn't let witnesses testify, and as far back he was obstructing the

process. >> i look at this report, all 535 pages we see. talked about the historical press sent for all of this. the johnson impeachment. you are steeped in the history here. how much has that imposed itself and how structurally sound do you think the democrats are? >> i think it's quite sound. no matter how sound or unsound, republicans will pretend it's a flimsy house. for me it is a sturdy a-frame that can sustain a number of earthquakes. you said something that's interesting, though. i want to ask you about this. so prosecutors have this tension. let's not overcharge. let's try to convince a jury. let's be practical. but they have never faced a situation, a prosecutor doesn't face a situation where the jurors are known beforehand that it is overwhelmingly unlikely that the jury will convict. plus, there is a really good argument for impeachment which is even if the senate does

acquit the president it is an act of civic hygiene, planting your flag and saying this is wrong. and i'll add a third thing, there is not a great a pathology between the criminal process and this. and republicans bring up bad points why there should be an analogy. so adding that all up, isn't there a good argument for doing a wider impeachment just based on the fact that it really isn't like a criminal case? >> so in the immortal words of lindsey graham, it is about closing the office. it is not a criminal process. it's important that we say that. the interesting reason to a nall skwraoeuz to the criminal process, that sets a much higher b bar. to your point about who do you have to convince? i think there are two juries here. there is the senate. and we know where they're headed. there is also the american people. that i think is the more important jury here and why the

narrative has to be tailored. >> danielle, i want to ask you about the level of coordination between leadership, the chairs of the committees, the members of these committees as well. maureen dowd with a wonderful line about the house speaker in her most recent column. she wore white and she saw red. jamie raskin talked about this. she writes adam schiff's opening statements were line edited by the speaker of the house. talk a buiit about the effectiveness of this. she came reluctantly not willingly. >> anybody that has ever been following me on twitter knows i have gone after nancy pelosi over the course of months waiting for this moment where she was going to show why she was named speaker again. and she has now. and the idea here is that nancy pelosi, when she said many months ago the president is basically becoming self-impeachable, she was waiting for the ukraine phone

call. she was waiting for this administration to become so emboldened that they were going to overstep their bounds. that they were literally going to hang themselves. so i think here, what's really exciting about where nancy pelosi is and where the female democrats are is that they are showing their power. all of the people that have testified in the hearings that have been substantial witnesses have been women. nancy pelosi here is saying, look, i was waiting for a stack of evidence. things that the american people actually can't turn away from. we're not looking just at one thing. we are looking ate cornucopia of illegal activity. like it is unreal the amount of things this administration has done and the lengths that republicans will go through in order to defend him. and so right now nancy pelosi is doing exactly what she should be doing when she called out that reporter the other day and said how dare you say to me that i hate the president of the united states as a catholic, as this person. this is about the constitution. when she says those things the

american people listen. look, also the fashion, very real. i say that as a woman always how we look, how our hair is presented in politics matters. but the idea of the puritiy of the power. if you remember hillary clinton wore a full white suit at the democratic convention. it shows women's power. and it reminds us about the fact that women have to fight for the right to vote. here he is wielding the most important gavel at this time. >> i will quote from the atlantic. her countenance made it clear nancy pelosi found herself just where she never wanted to be, impeachment of donald trump that has drawn nary an ounce of bipartisan backing in congress. has fix in place public support

of about 50%. speak to the integral involvement that she has had shaping the way that this has worked its way through the house the last few weeks. >> that's right. you mentioned before that she was, you know, sort of line editing every line of adam schiff's statements. same with jerry nadler, the other committee chairs. she has ruled this process with an iron fist to the point that i talked with rank and file democrats who came out of closed door meetings and they don't know what's happening because everything comes out of nancy pelosi's mind and she is strategizing with her chairman. she announced that the house was going to move forward with articles of impeachment. even her key chairman didn't know until a few minutes before. i remember the press release at 5:00 a.m. saying she would give a statement on the status of the impeachment inquiry. obviously we didn't know in the moment what that can be.

they were texting various aides. no one had any idea what she was going to say. that's what she wants. that's how she wants to be handling this process. it's a reflexion that she didn't want to be here in the first place. now that she is here, she will have it her way. >> doing great work for politico. >> thanks, david. he is criticizing the media and his own party. julian castro on why he is putting the dnc on notice. - do you have a box of video tapes, film reels, or photos, that are degrading? legacybox professionally converts them to dvds, thumb drive, or the cloud. legacybox is simple and safe, with over half a million satisfied customers.

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david, it's important that we explain to everyone that candidates have from october 16th to december 12th to get the necessary polling thresholds that you have to get. if you're getting 800,000 grassroots donors have across the country, 4% in four% or 6% in two, that demonstrates support. if you look at 2007 and look at 2015, no candidate has been below those that went on to win the nomination. so it is a fair process. and we want to be clear about creating that fair process. >> this is "up". i'm david gura. that was the vice chair of the dnc on up yesterday. the next democratic debate december 19th. so far only six candidates have qualified for that debate. as you can see, they are all

white. half in their 70s. one a billionaire. former hud secretary julian castro met the benchmark for the next debate but not the polling threshold. the deadline for which he has to do that is thursday of next week. these complaints are essentially unmerited. >> well, there is no question that the dnc will have to go back and look at the thresholds they have put in place for the next democratic primary. but my issue with how we do presidential elections is actually much deeper than any threshold process that has been put in place for 2020. and i said this very clearly, that we need to go back as democrats and revisit the rules that were set in 1972 about the order of the state, for instance. you know, there's no reason that iowa, new hampshire that have

some of the least diversity, racial and ethnic diversity in our country, should always go first. i think they have to evaluate these thresholds. but they actually have to go more deep than that and look at the entire process. that's the kind of improvement that i'm looking for. and they have years to do it for the 2024 process. i'm not asking the dnc to change the rules in the middle of the game for me. i don't want that. i want deeper and more meaningful change. and starting with how we order primary states makes sense. it also makes sense to look at states who make it easierer to vote. the iowa caucus is only held one time at 7:00 on one night. what does that do, for instance, to a shift worker that can't just show up at 7:00 that one night. there is no absentee voting, no

traditional early voting. so it's difficult for people to participate. and because of that, there's only something like a 16% participation right in the very first voting opportunity that people have in this primary process, the iowa caucus. that doesn't make any sense. it doesn't make sense, as i have said many times, we keep telling black women you are powering our victories in louisiana and alabama and you're the key to 2020 and we start the nominating in two states that hardly have any black people in them. that is the challenge for the dnc to reconstitute the kind of effort like it did ahead of the 1972 caucus and to make changes. >> you heard from tom steyer, no doubt, who suggested some sort of change to the qualification of metrics for the next debate. i wonder why that is not resonant with you? why not say a change could be made now? this is an important thing for

this party. why not advocate for some sort of change in the short-term while focusing on 2024 after that? >> well, to the extent that the dnc has not come up with the rules yet for future debates, they're going to have an opportunity to evaluate what the thresholds are. but i don't want them to change rules that have already been set in the middle of the game. i'm not asking for that. i also -- i think that that -- you know, that's a band-aid that might make people feel good because a couple of people are on stage. but what it really does is it lets all of us off the hook from addressing the deeper issues. and the deeper issues are this primary does not live up to your values, the way we do it doesn't live up to your values as democrats. we constantly go after republicans like we should because they try to suppress especially the votes of people of color. making it hard to vote in early voting by closing early voting booths on sunday.

voter i.d., gerrymandering. we should go after them for that. we have to look at our own house. we have to be prepared to say does this caucus and primary process represent our values? right now the answer is a very clear no. and the dnc has a couple years now for 2024 to make sure that the answer is yes. and to put that in line with the values we have as democrats. >> i know that you have been critical as well about media coverage, who is covered, when they are covered. you gave a speech this week on foreign policy, big for you and your campaign. i don't think it got as much coverage as it might have. i want to know what your reaction to that is? how much is the challenge of having so many candidates running for office? >> let me connect to the dots to something said in that clip. they said i have a tremendous amount of respect for michael blake and for tom bettis.

i know they are trying to do their best under the circumstances. but while it may be true that nobody who has been polling right now at less than 6% for 4%, whatever it was, has gone on to become the democratic nominee, it's also true that we have never had anywhere near this number of people. at one time we had 25 people running for the nomination. and we still have 15. and so, you know, it's a new day. it's different from how it was in 2016 or 2008 or certainly 1972. to your question of media coverage, it all feeds on itself, right? because you have these thresholds in place. and folks either make the debate or they don't. if you don't make the debate, then msnbc, cnn, all the other media out there are a little less likely to give you airtime because they're responding to the polls. and so it's this media and

political ecosystem that whittles down the field. the truth is that right now in the process, compared to the number of people that will vote in november 2020 or the democratic primaries, hardly anyone is actually paying attention. what you are doing is artificially weeding out a lot of people, speaking for the other phoenix that have their names on the ballot with a lot of talent and potential. i think we can be more thoughtful as democrats who say we embrace as much opportunity for people to make their case and easy access to the voting booth, we can do a better job all around. >> last question. i was reading the column in the "new york times" today. he said he can't criticize the media too much because the media always follows the polls or who is in the spotlight at any given moment. unfair to blame the media how

you're doing. the process is what it is. it is what it is. your reaction to that. fundamentally it's about getting grassroots support, getting the money to do this. if you can't, so be it. throw in the towel. yes, there are things to complain about it. it is about being able to get it done ahead of the caucus us and the primaries. >> look, i wanted to be a journalist once. when i went to stanford, i thought i was going to go into journalism. so i have a tremendous amount of respect for journalists. at the same time, there are certain media values that are out there that the media gravitate around. we know that. one of those media values, for instance, is conflict.

they are often focusing on who is going after who. the food fights. you give notice and you go through and they will pose a question. candidate x. candidate y said this about you. what do you have to say about that. instead of delving into the substance of the issue. also, media spwrs, especially in the area of media conglomeration, big corporate interests, you are corporately owned with certain values that of course has a world view. and while individual journalists are trying to do their job and many of them try to do it very nobly, it is operating within a bigger ecosystem. i know frank has good columns, insightful columns. and i haven't read it. so i'm going off the point that you made. it will be unfair to him. i'll go back and read it. but to say simply because, hey, just buck up and get the job

done and the media don't have much to do with it, or that's just the way it is going to be, no, that doesn't have to be the way it's going to be. good people in the media who are being thoughtful creating nonprofit models of journalist and to go more deeply into coverage, you actually can make positive changes that help to promote a better engagement in our democracy and vetting of candidates than the model that many media outlets have right now. >> the would-be journalists julian castro. thank you very much. appreciate the time. >> thanks, david. >> republican governor putting his own pick in the u.s. senate. more on that newly appointed senator and why the decision to install her is not sitting too far. first, kate mckinnon as nancy pelosi praise for the president and the gop. s nancy pelosi praise for the president and the gop.

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georgia's governor. stakes are high. georgia is being talked about as a battle ground state. republicans want to hold onto every seat they have in congress. joining us now is the mayor of atlanta. let me ask you, first of all, what you know of her and your recollection to this pick. as i say, very wealthy, $12 million estate in buckhead, tuxedo road. it is her wealth that defines her. what do you know of her politics? >> thank you for having me, david. i don't know much about her politics. but what i do know is that she and her husband have been great supporters in the city of atlanta. really combining commerce and compassion in our city. and what we hope for in our next senator is to create a relationship very much like the won we have had with senator isaks isakson. it truly reflects the diversity of our state.

senator isaac son has been a leader in our state. and can align with or policies and the care and concerns of our communities. so what i do know based on their work in the city of atlanta is that there is care and concern for our communities, especially in some of our underserved communities. they have put their money where their mouth is. as she leaves, that will be front and center. and i don't have any reason to think that it will not be. >> somebody who spent time in the city of atlanta as well. mike, what do you read into this? doug collins we have become more familiar with on the impeachment hearings. we will see them again tomorrow. what do you read into the fact that he, the trump anointed was not picked? >> the governor camp is a much better governor or politician than we thought he was when he was campaigning in a pickup truck and depositing himself as

a mini trump. it seems representative collins is a mini trump. this moment maybe requires a loeffler. and i was wondering would she rather be running against a doug collins type or kelly loefflor type? >> she will be much more difficult to beat in a general election. i think there will be strong democrats that we will see come forward. but when you have a more moderate and self-funded candidate, i think it will be much more difficult for her to be beat. when you look at the franchise in the city of atlanta, it is a very large minority fan base, one they are very proud of. and they are true community partners. and so i think you're absolutely

right. i think governor kent has been much more moderate in many of his picks. this is one example. even when we look at the picks that he has put up across the state, he has nominated and put forth a number of minority candidates in key judicial positions across the state. so i think this has been his opportunity to govern. there was this person we saw as a candidate. now there is this person who we are seeing as governor, which is extremely important. there are still many policies that we don't agree on but many more we do align on. and i think that's all that we can hope for in our politics, in our cities and states across this country. >> danielle moody mills, i picked up on that hyphen ated phrase, self-funded. >> thank you, supreme court, for allowing money to flow freely into our politics. we are seeing this on the national stage in so many

different ways. multimillionaires and billionaires able to enter races and do things and say, look, i don't need to be responsible to constituents. i don't need to have a base. i have my own money. so i have no one that i have to be responsible to. and i think that that is really truly the breakdown of our democracy. when corporations could be people and there was a limitless amount of money that can be in. you look at the jewel can castros. i'm not a billionaire. i don't throw $30 million at television ads without going out and talking to people. so that is a huge problem that we really need to be addressing in our politics that we don't. >> joyce, last question to you. what does this mean to your south? she would be the first female senator in 100 years. put that in the context of the american south? . >> so i agree with danielle, this is more about money than politics than it is about

southern politics. but i think it was a heads-up move by the governor. she has to run in 2020 for two years. and then in 2022, very well have to run for a full term. this is a realization she will be facing powerful women challengers in the democratic party, possibly a run by stacey abrams, sally yates, a georgia resident. so this is maybe a better look for republicans than collins, who comes with a lot of baggage, clips of him demeaning women, female witnesses in these impeachment hearings. this plays much better long term for him and the republicans in the state. . >> we have you on from time to time to talk about the campaign. supporter of vice president joe biden. no doubt you saw the exchange he had with the voter this week. the last hour we were talking about the perceived knead for a cogent response.

the two questions about his son and the company in which he served on the board. >> people like that he fought back. and even someone on my team said they went from being an elizabeth warren supporter to a joe biden supporter after being how he pushed back. the reality is that he came for his son, and you can't expect people to have a canned answer when someone is attacking the character of your children. i understand that it's important for him to have a succinct response to that. but in that moment we saw the joe biden that we need to see on the stage fighting against donald trump. and as i was preparing for today, i was even thinking about my christmas dinner. there will be 75 to 100 people at my dinner. . >> my god. >> i know. it's really scary. truly reflective of

african-americans in this country. you will have a doctor and a lawyer sitting next to a waiter and a truck driver all at my table in the basement. nobody is going to talk about policies. nobody is going to talk about trade wars. they are going to talk about getting donald trump out of office and who will be the best person to do that. that is still joe biden. we saw fighting joe this week, and i loved it. >> what's going to be on the menu at that dinner? . >> maccarone and cheese, sweet potato pies. pound cakes. >> there you go. >> shoe come by. it will save you some money on your polls. >> thank you very much. the mayor of atlanta. preview of impeachment articles being drafted behind closed doors right now. we will bring you what he has to say next. to say next air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside

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a live look here at the capitol as members of congress prepare for tomorrow's judiciary hearing and republicans are speaking out ahead of tomorrow's hearing for freedom caucus chairman mark meadows refuse to go believe the words coming directly from the president of the united states in what was a heated exchange just moments ago. >> the president asked a leader of a foreign country to investigate his political rival. so one simple question to start, is that appropriate? >> well, one, he didn't do that. i don't agree with your premise. he talked about an investigation. i think he said will you do us a favor based on the united states going through a lot. talking about 2016 elections. and when you see that, dana, i think probably the biggest thing is this president has gone through so much. we know that, you know, you're going to have jerry nadler and others on. but they've been making accusations about this president that not only are not based on

facts but they are false. >> here he did ask. you admit that, right? >> even with that, working with the attorney general, are you suggesting that someone who runs for president shouldn't be investigated? >> words are very important to the line of work you're in. let's take some of this apart. they are not only false but not based on fact. we will talk about this pronoun issue they are talking about. do us a favor was in reference to all of us. the great country of the united states after what we have all been through. your reaction to what we heard there from the congressman? >> so context matters. >> yes. >> and it's very clear from the context here. this i think is the defining issue about trump's actions in ukraine. it was not to benefit the united states. yes, often there is horse trieding to develop things for our country. what trump was looking for is something good for him.

we watched what happened in the run-up to 2016. he learned that the announcement of an investigation, even if there is no substance to it, can be a very powerful thing. and he's trying to replicate 2016 using the ukrainians. meadows is just trying to give up the party line. >> your reaction to what he had to say there as well again? centering this on semantics. >> i just wonder how much it takes to swallow the amount of nonsense that republicans do on a day-to-day basis. i mean, the idea that he actually says, oh, it was about us, the american people. how does the president asking the roux crain yanns to investigate the bidens help middle america marge? the bus driver in new york city? what are we getting out of that if it is a we situation. we get nothing. he gets the dirt he needs to replay 2016 and have the string of lies. we will about the may also of

this election. it's just the president knitted to it on the south lawn. he said again ukraine, yes, they should open an investigation. as a matter of fact, china should too. >> let's listen to one more. jerry nadler moments ago. >> based on everything we have learned until now and based on what we will hear tomorrow. but remember, some of these things are clear at this point. there is overwhelming evidence uncontested that the president put himself above the country. that the president sought foreign assistance in elections, sought to cover it up. completely defied participation in the congressional investigation. >> a long way of saying the facts are uncontested. >> maybe the next argument will

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this is "up". i'm david gura. this week the trump administration finalized new work requirements for food stamp recipients. it is estimated when they are implemented some 700,000

americans will lose their benefits. 6 secretary sonny perdue was making as this would bring the law back to what it was intended. >> what happened was this became intoas a waiver situation. the statute was 10% unemployment.nt when we saw in the recession years america's compassionate. they allowed wavers for people who to do that. now we have more jobs based on the obtrump's economy than we'v got people for applying for them. we're going back to the original congressional attent. >> it would ataect our recession

readiness. many places would have been eligible for wavers not only at the start of the great recession but at the depths of the great recession. help usat understand the ratione for doing this. this wouldle have a savings of many billions, i gather, but why do it. why now? >> what we're talking about is the work requirement for 20 hours a week. if you are a single, able-bodied adult under 50 and you cannot prove that you can work 20 hours a week your food stamps go away aprils 1st, 2020. the government says the trump economy is doing so well that extra assist saance is not need and this is a way to shave billionswa of dollars in saving anti-poverty experts are saying we'rean talking about a food stp benefit that comes down to an average ofow $1.50 per meal. so if you are receiving it, you're not living high on the hog off hi$1.50. but they're also saying by using that metric of at least 6% unemployment, what does that do foroy places like detroit.

if you'reac using an average, a city that's hard hit that could use the extra assistance but is surrounded by wealthy suburbs, you're looking at this labor market metric but it looks differently for people that don't have a high school degree, for someone thatsc does not hav access to public transportation, for someone in an economically hard-hit area where there aren't many jobs. when it comes to those wavers, that was common for a state to say we'll waive that 20-hour work requirement. every single state in the past 23 years has muused that. and now the trump administration is saying inw this trio of rul. this is the first of three rules set to pass, you don't need that as long as you can prove you have atth least 6% unemployment then perhaps we'll consider it. once the trio of rules gets past, we're talking about 3 million americans impacted. >> 700,000 americans. that's a,0 lot of people. theot optics of the announcemen are bad in the middle of the

holidays. this wouldn't take effect until april butt what effect would tt have on those receiving these benefits now?in >> right now you're talking about y single people but when e effects get e panded in the coming year we're talking about children who are on reduced lunch programs. we're talking about disabled americans and those who are care taking for those disabled americans. if you makele over about $2500 year, if you have that amount in assets, then you also will have your food stamps taken away. we're talking a couple thousand in assets and that's about $3,500 if you're talking about disabled people. so the threshold is -- >> if yould own a car? >> if you own a car and spent $3,000, the christmassp holiday that's your entire assets. that's a meaningful change. >> danielle, i saw this news come across. it was subsumed by all we've been talking about and nd following. speak to that, if you would. a change of this magnitude being made and our inability in this environment to reckon with it or

even acknowledge to the degree which we would a have in the pa. >> i think we don't talk about the cruelty of this administration enough. i don't think that we talk about their cruelty towards people of color, towards low-income people enough. and this is a prime example of that. all of a sudden, you have republicans speaking -- not all of a sudden, they always speak out two of sides of their mouth. you have them saying we have so much influx of, in the economy, the trump economy is great and doing all of these wonderful things but somehow we still need to cut social service programs for the most marginalized and underserved people? if the country is doing so well under trump then why can't our systems and our safety nets stay in place? and it's because they don't believe in helping people. they h believe in putting moneyt the top. that's what they care about and i think we need to talk about how vicious this administration is and how cruel they are to people that need government assistance and it'sov problemat. >> leave it there, morgan.e, thank you for the reporting. morgan radford joining us. thank you.

coming up, just days from the deadline to make it into the final debate of the year. can senator cory booker get the polling he needs to make it onto that stage? joy reid is going to talk to him about that and more next on "a.m. joy."

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uncontested by the republicans that the president put himself above the country. that the president sought foreign assistance in elections. sought to cover it up. completely defied participation in the congressional investigation. this president put himself repeatedly above the interest of the country and poses a threat to the integrity of the next election. that's not something we were talking about 20 years ago. >> good morning and welcome to "a.m. joy." less than 24 hours from now the impeachment inquiry enters what will likely be the final stage before house democrats present articles of impeachment against donald trump. at 9:00 a.m., the house judiciary chairman jerry nadler will gavel in another hearing which we're being told will look more like a trial. this time lawyers who have represented house democrats and republicans during the public hearings will be the ones answering questions about the testimony that we've heard these last few weeks. to be clear, the white house has

every right to have its representatives in the room, too. but as we told you yesterday, the white house counsel sent a big magic marker signed letter saying, nope, they will not participate. and as house democrats move full steam ahead they're now giving us a road map for how lawmakers will lay out their plans for impeaching this president. this is their 52-page report which includes many of the offenses we've been hearing about like treason and bribery and abuse of power. we could see articles of impeachment as early as this week. and a full house vote by