♪ welcome to "kasie dc." i'm david gura. and tonight democrats measure twice to cut once as they decide how broad to make their articles of impeachment. after a lackluster performance on wednesday, they seek to put an exclamation point on president trump. and separation sunday. democrats running for president focus on each others' business ties as voters hope they will increasingly get down to the business of beating president trump. and as pete buttigieg draws massive crowds in iowa, joe

biden tries to explain in a brand-new interview why boot yunl judge is struggling with black voters. this is usually the time of year we cover shopping deals but the tonnage of what is left to do in washington before 2019 comes to a close is significant. there is a prescription drugs bill to pass the usmca trade plan to put to bed. and then there is a small matter of averting a government shutdown. and, yes, potentially impeaching the president of the united states. while attorney general bill barr is hosting his $30,000 holiday party this evening at a trump hotel, democratic lawmakers have been on capitol hill working through the weekend. they put out a 55-page document seeking to explain the historical context for impeachment. its dna rooted in the words of the 1974 case against president nixon. just hours from now the judiciary committee will formally and publicly receive

evidence. but democrats have be from committee members karen bass and cedric richmond. origins of the 2016 russia investigation. with all of this coming to a head, the president is singularly focused on the defining political moment ahead. >> it's a light bulb. they got rid of the light bulb that people got used to. the new bulb is many times for expensive. it doesn't make you look as good. [ laughter ] of course, being a vain person, that's very important to me. [ laughter ] it's like it gives you an orange look. i don't want an orange look. we have a situation where we are looking very strongly at sinks and showers and other elements of bathrooms where you turn the faucet on in areas where there

is tremendous amounts of water, where the water rushes out to sea because you can never handle it. and you don't get any water. you turn on the if you sayet and you don't get any water. they take a shower and water comes dripping out, just very quietly dripping out. people are flushing toilets ten times, 15 times as opposed to once. they end up using more water. the so epa is looking at that very strongly at my suggestion. >> very strongly. tomorrow's hearings will take place, will take the feeling of a trial. top democrats and republicans will give opening statements. then the lawyers will detail their findings for up to 45 minutes each. they will be cross-examined and then by the end of the week we could have articles of impeachment by christmas a vote in the full house of representatives, and by january a trial in the u.s. senate. what we will not have is a national consensus no matter how many hearings or documents or witnesses are put before the country. with that let me welcome my

channel. he is a columnist for the "new york times" and an msnbc contributor. we have robert costa. he is a national political reporter for "the washington post" and a moderator. let me start with you. i am holding the document in my hand here. it is reminiscent of what we saw back in 1974. the title is the same. how much of an analog is there between these two documents, as you see the structure that you've had the democrats building here for impeachment? >> well, they're different in a political context in that in 1974 richard nixon had the support of about 24, 25% of the country. and you had many republicans breaking with president nixon supporting articles of impeachment. so that context is completely different. also in terms of this case, it's different in that the charges are potentially a morphice.

they cover more grounds in terms of what obstruction of justice means. you don't quite had which you had with nixon which are those 18 missing minutes of tape, that people could get their mind around in terms of the way obstruction worked. i think it's very important for democrats to make this really easy on the american public. no american except for those of us in the media should have to sit and read all these documents. the only thing that should matter are three words. abuse of power. and the democrats, in my view, have to focus in on what exactly that means and how abuse of power encompasses all of the charges that have been brought against the president. >> bob costa, i did dip into that 55-page report. a president who per verts his role to serve private rather than public ends has unquestionably engaged in high questions and misdemeanors. to bret's point, how does the

committee translate this to the american public as a whole? >> it will certainly lead to articles of impeachment. house judiciary committee chairman jerry nadler earlier today on nbc's "meet the press" said he would expect articles of impeachment to be drafted this week. the question remains what exactly will be in those articles, whether it will be bribery, abuse of power, obstruction of justice, obstruction of congress. that's for something for chairman nadler and speaker pelosi to decide. what is evident based in my reporting is that house republicans are almost certainly going to be united in support of president trump as convincing as these hearings have been in the eyes of many democrats, republicans remain united behind president trump, and they have not heard from witnesses. they have worried privately in conversations with me could turn the tide for the gop. people like ambassador bolton.

because of that for now they remain behind the president. >> bob costa, alluding to that exchange that chuck todd had with. >> do you have an idea of how many articles do you think we are going to draw? you seem to be hesitant. >> i am not ready to decide that. and it's not just my decision obviously. >> is this speaker -- you may come up with recommendations and she ultimately says do this, not that? >> she'll have a role, as many other members in the caucus, but the decisions have be made based on everything we have learned until now and based on what we hear tomorrow. >> john harwood, he said it is not just my decision. what the house speaker might say about all of this. what's your sense of how this is going to shake out? >> david. i think as chuck was suggesting, nancy pelosi is going to make the final call here. and i suspect, given the attitude that she's brought to the impeachment question throughout the course of the year, that is going to result in

narrower rather than broader grounds for impeachment and smaller rather than larger number of articles of impeachment. i think the challenge for democrats here is that they made an obvious and clear case that the president did what he was accused of in the intelligence committee hearings. he pressured a vulnerable ally under attack by russia for assistance in the form of an announced investigation of joe biden in the 2016 election and held up a meeting with president zelensky and military aid for that purpose. there is no doubt that the president did this. the question is can you get the people who have not focused in? there is a significant number of americans, david, who are not like us, fully engaged constantly in cable news and twitter and other forms of media communication. they're very casual observers of

politics. and they have kept their distance as the stakes get higher, as this goes to the floor of the house and then to the senate for a trial, how many of those people are going to tune in and what are they going to see when they do? i think that's the ultimate question that will determine whether it's a straight republican stonewall against this or whether or not you get some cracks in that unity. >> there are a number of profiles this weekend writing one of them about house speaker nancy pelosi and the role that she has been playing here detailing how she was line-editing the opening statements that adam schiff was delivering before his committee. this is a remarkable moment for nancy pelosi. some house democrats once doubted she would regain her gavel. she was once publicly opposed to impeachment. the investigation has advanced, so have the politics. >> the facts of the ukraine situation just changed everything. the polls went from 59 opposed to impeachment, 34 in favor, to

about even. >> there are democrats from districts that the president carried who were skeptical in moving forward and an impeachment inquiry they later embraced moving forward. are you concerned at all that some of them may face a backlash if they vote for articles of impeachment and it could ultimately hurt them in their races come next year? >> well, thank you for your question. this has absolutely nothing to do with politics. it isn't about politics, partisanship, democrats and republicans. that is totally insignificant. it's about the constitution of the united states, the oath of office we take to protect and defend the constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic. it's about the president not honoring his oath of office. so, no, i'm not concerned. >> i want you to react to that. she has made this a moral argument. members of her caucus have to decide on their own whether to support this. but there are politics in play. there are consequences looming for this decision.

>> well, sure. they might not help the democrats. i was an early sceptic of impeachment precisely for that narrowly political reason, which is that i would -- i feared that it would help trump just in the way, quite frankly, that the impeachment drive in 1998 against clinton actually boosted his popularity. but what you just heard from the speaker i think is absolutely right, which is that this is a larger question than how democrats fair in 2020. as important as that is, the question is are we going to normalize this sort of behavior. and it's also a question that should matter not only for liberals but also for conservatives. at some point in the future you might imagine a president on the other side of the political divide engaging in just this kind of behavior of extorting a foreign ally and perverting american foreign policy for the sake of his personal benefit. so if you don't lay down a marker now that american congress considered this sort of

behavior impeachable, it is certainly going to become the standard by which future presidents operate. by the way on the political thing, one thing to remember george w. bush did win the presidency in 2000 promising, as he put it, to restore honor and integrity to the oval office. so i'm not quite sure the politics really hurts the democrats. >> there was a piece in your paper over this weekend looking at concern among moderate democrats about the ad buys that we have seen from republicans in their districts. so you have the house speaker making this moral argument. at the same time, bob, she has to be cognisant of the fact that there are political ramifications of this. what are democrats doing to buffer that as this process proceeds? >> they're doing many things, david. when i was up at the capitol over the past week talking to house democrats, especially those from the midwest and other competitive areas of the country, they were not leading their arguments to me about their re-election in terms of impeachment. they were talking about trying to get usmca, the new version of

nafta through. they were talking about prescription drug reform and pricing. so you see speaker pelosi with a lot of the projects and initiatives. she is trying to give her members other things to talk about beyond impeachment. but she also knows in her party is in a position politically where they feel compelled to move forward on impeachment. so she waited till the last moment to push for this to happen. and now she is moving forward with it, having chairman schiff, more than anyone, direct the process. but that doesn't mean that the entire political agenda is all president trump and all impeachment. she knows that to keep winning in the suburbs in 2020, there has to be more than that. >> all right, bob, bret, john, come back with us. still to come, the latest on the investigation pensacola, florida, and the president's interesting comments about saudi arabia. plus, rudy giuliani back in the former ussr visiting ukraine in an ongoing effort that even the president's loyalists are

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every so often an ad comes through that breaks through all the noise and strikes a cord with the american people. this week we saw an ad like that. >> okay, ready? >> yes. >> now.

>> a peloton! >> excited. let's do this. >> i am so sorry. my apologies. that is actually not the ad i was talking about. can we get the one that i want? i think we have it. here's the ad. >> world leaders caught on camera laughing about president trump. >> my administration has accomplished more than almost any administration in the history of our country. >> didn't expect that reaction, but that's how it goes. [ laughter ] >> the world sees trump for what he is, insincere, ill informed, incorrect, dangerously incompetent. and if we give donald trump four more years we will have a great deal of difficulty of ever being able to recover america standing in the world in our capacity to bring nations together. >> that ad has racked up nearly 12 million views. i haven't checked the poloton ad for comparison.

but he also accused mayor pete buttigieg of stealing his health care plan. in an interview, mike allen of axios pressed the former vice president on pete buttigieg's lack of support from black voters. >> congressman cleburn, your friend said there is no question that older voters have issues with mayor pete being gay. do you agree? >> i'm not going to comment on that. he would know better than i would. >> he said i think everyone knows that i'm not going to sit here and tell you otherwise. >> well, look. i think you know that i'm the first guy to come out nationally for gay marriage. >> i think that got a little of attention. >> well, no, it did. but i told the president ahead of time i wouldn't press it, but if i got asked a question i didn't have to evolve anymore. i knew where i was for a long time. so i think the fact that mayor pete is gay and married, i give

him great compliment for that. i don't have any problem with that. but i think that the fact is that unrelated to that, mayor pete obviously has had difficulty garnering black support in his home city because it relates to a lot of other things. but i come out of -- >> relates to a lot of other things? >> like, for example, whether it was good, bad, or indifferent, the firing of an african-american police chief, the shooting -- i mean -- >> do you think those are real problems for him? >> i'm not making that judgment. but the folks -- >> it sounds like you are. >> no. i'm saying if you take a look at why he doesn't have significant black support even in his own city. >> bret stephens, robert costa, john horowitz with me as well. let me start with you with the fighting words we played there at the end of the clip. why he doesn't have significant

black support even in his own city. what did you make of the vice president's attack on this issue when you talked to him? >> as you picked up, that was a tough shot from the vice president. and as we saw in that ad, it was joe biden's dream to be able to skip right to a general election, run against president trump from day one. but that's turning out to be harder than it looks. so we see the vice president in the axios on hbo taking that tough shot, and mayor pete also with elizabeth warren saying she's not where the party is saying the press and a lot of activists jumped to the idea after the midterms that aoc and senator warren medicare for all where the party is, there's that great moment where he says to me, come on, man, where's the party? >> i just want to pull up the latest national polling on support among black voters nationwide. this is quinnipiac poll. and you see joe biden there with 43%. a yawning gap between him and the second place person bernie sanders with 11%.

he's enjoying, as you see there, a rather sizeable lead from his counterparts. >> yes, david. thank you for having me tonight. i think that what joe biden is trying to do here is really remind voters, you know, less than 60 days to iowa that he is the one who does have significant black supported, as you point out in that quinnipiac poll, and most polls show joe biden, you know, far and away with a lead among black voters. and pete buttigieg is not the only candidate that has been struggling to get support among black voters. although vice president biden called him out and also senator warren for their lack of support. but all of his competitors know that the path to the nomination goes through black voters. and if they are going to make any headway between now and the time that the first votes are cast just a few short month as way they are going to need to erode some of the support that joe biden has maintained since he debuted his campaign earlier

this spring. >> what have you been noticing, watching since pete buttigieg took that swing through the south over the course of the last week? he was meeting with the reverend william barber. he has made this a vangard paramount issue for him. it's something he clearly cares about and knows he has to care about if he's going to have success here with this contest. what has this last week told you about his strategy going forward? >> well, i think that we're going to have to continue to watch the polls and see. but i think that what we do know is that since mayor pete buttigieg launched his campaign, he has had challenges with black voters despite the fact that he continues to introduce in a variety of settings, whether it's black churches or black colleges or in other various spaces that are traditional cultural institutions for african-americans. he is taking a message, his agenda, for a black america. he has continued to take that message to those voters and for whatever reason, it is just not landing as of yet.

and, you know, what he would say is that the voters really haven't gotten to know him very well enough. while i think that there are a lot of undecided voters still out there, he is introducing himself to quite a few black voters who simply don't seem to be interested. i will say, though, you know, the vice president did not address what representative cleburn raised about mayor pete buttigieg and his sexuality being an issue with black voters. black voters are certainly not any more homophobic than any other voters. and to the vice president's point, i think, black voters are looking at other issues, not his sexuality, and maybe being hesitant to see him as the person that they want as their nominee. >> we are fortunate to have two guests who have spoken with the former vice president recently. you talked about the substance of that ad that i played at the top of the block. you talked about foreign policy which is something that the former senator, former vice president wants to tout, likes

to tout on the campaign trail. let's take a listen to some of your interview. >> i don't think the president of the united states today has any notion of geopolitical concerns. look, this is the guy who said, and i thought at first it was kind of a joke but it wasn't. remember he said seriously a couple months into this administration this job's harder than running a real estate empire. he knows nothing about foreign policy. he knows nothing about nuclear deterrent. he is demonstrated and look what's happened? >> john, you see the passion with which he talks about foreign policy and the way things were, the foreign policy that the former vice president knows so well. i know that a question that came up after that ad was released is how much do people across america care about that? is the argument that he's advancing in that ad and advancing in the conversation with you not unlike what we heard in 2016 from secretary of state hillary clinton? how much resonance is that going to have with voters here in

2020? >> well, david, i think it's part of a larger picture, and the difference between now and 2016 is that people have had the experience of trump being president and looking at the consequences of that. so, i think when you have that ad, which i thought was quite effective making the case that other leaders are mocking and ridiculing the president, which dovetails with what we have seen in polling with respect for the united states dropping around the world. that becomes part of a larger democratic argument that the president is not up for this job. he doesn't know what he's doing. when you look at polling about the president's, his honesty, his competence, his ability to handle foreign affairs. you see that he doesn't get particularly high marks. now it doesn't mean that any of that individually is going to be decisive in the rice. but it's part of a larger pattern and case that democrats make that have you had enough of

this guy yet? is it time to move on to somebody else? and i think that's what everybody is counting out. and as mike allen accurately said with an ad like this, the former vice president's hoping to maximize the amount of space in this race that is consumed by him versus trump as opposed to him versus his competitors for the nomination. >> mike allen, last word to you. you typed this a week ago out in iowa that happened before this exchange with a voter about his son's position on the burisma board. but watching it i am reminded of this line for marc caputo in politico. he said biden doesn't have a clear and cogent message. voters are starting to take notice. again, this is something you discuss in that interview. but does he have anything clear, more cogent as you talked to him? >> well, the vice president's

message is i didn't know, i don't want to know that that was how he tried to avoid conflicts. the question is how long that is sustainable. like, if new information comes out, how long can i trust my son message last? but as we saw in that earlier clip and when the vice president sat down with axios on hbo is like the fighting biden. i can tell you a lot of the supporters, his campaign felt better about this week of the no malarkey bus tour in iowa, voters were reminded of why they have supported vice president biden for so many years. >> thank you all. when we return here, rudy giuliani, attorney and also documentary producer. he adds that to his resume. as we go to break, mean world leaders edition. we are back right after this. acs

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rudy giuliani was a mayor, a federal prosecutor, and as of late he has called the president's personal attorney. now he has become a documentary producer, i guess you could say. he has been in kiev gathering interviews for a tv special that's herring on the one america news network. he seems to be showing little concern at least publicly. >> well, i just know he came back from someplace and he's going to make a report i think to the attorney general and to congress. he says he has a lot of good information. i have not spoken to him about that information. >> some of the president's allies have reservations when it comes to rudy giuliani. >> it is weird that he's over there, and i'm grateful that very soon after i made those comments on cnn the president put out a statement that said

that rudy giuliani does want to come into congress and explain his role, explain what he's been up to. and i believe that the president urging mayor giuliani to provide that clarity to the congress will be helpful in resolving what seems to be odd having him over there at this time. >> weird and odd according to matt gaetz. giuliani is at the center of another story line in washington as u.s. officials say it's likely russia monitored his phone calls with president trump and house officials. the house intelligence committee revealing extensive communications. records show giuliani was on the phone with the white house more than a dozen times in the two days before the u.s. ambassador to ukraine was brought back to washington. the panel back with me. and i'm going to go to bob costa first on all of this. and it's a basic question, one that i'm sure has flummoxed all of us here. what is rudy giuliani doing with this trip to ukraine? >> based on my conversations with the president's confidants in recent days, rudy giuliani

remains the president's close friend and attorney. in this tumultuous time in the trump presidency he has very few people he is turning to for advice and counsel, despite all of the controversy in the clouds about rudy giuliani, he continues to rely on giuliani to be a political ally, to be out there making a defense for him both in the press the potential documentary. we see that u.s. officials have talked about how ukrainian actions during 2016 did not constitute interference despite giuliani and many republicans continuing to argue that op-ed articles and political opinions constitute an interference in 2016. so giuliani's out there making the case essentially that president trump's conduct was excusable when it came to foreign policy because of how ukrainian leaders operated. >> chris stephens, i was going to ask you -- john, jump in here, if you would.

go ahead. >> i just wanted to put a finer point on it. what rudy giuliani is doing is using kremlin manufactured propaganda as a defensive shield for the president. fiona hill was unambiguous in her testimony to the intelligence committee. what rudy giuliani has been doing with these two indicted men who are linked to a russian oligarch who is tied to russian organized crime has tried to manufacture a story that ukraine, rather than russia or in addition to russia or differently from russia, meddle in the campaign. that is false. and so what we've seen is not just rudy giuliani but republican allied senators, ted cruz on "meet the press" today, john kennedy of louisiana before, have been spreading this kremlin propaganda to shield the president. it has been persuasive to some

in the president's base, and we'll see how persuasive it is to the rest of the country as they tune in, as i was talking about earlier when the casual voters start tuning in, are they going to believe this? >> i was going to ask you if this is self-serving for the former u.s. attorney. but you have the president seemingly encouraging this. giuliani delivering the report to the attorney general, perhaps or bringing it up to capitol hill. what do you make of this as prosecutors here in new york are certainly placing him under a great deal of scrutiny? >> i mean, look, the overall picture for me is that the administrati administration internally is as incompetent, paranoid, and given to conspiracy theories as it appears to be from -- >> [ laughter ] >> what you see is what you get, yeah. >> from the outside. i think that's really the striking feature. in the 1980s there was a great "saturday night live" skit in which the daughter of ronald reagan is seen talking to the

boy scouts. in the moment the boy scouts leaves he gets on the phone and starts speaking what appears to be fluent farsi. but today we joke we live with is that rudy giuliani is our de facto secretary of state. we have an administration that believes in conspiracy theories that are clearly manufactured or serve the interests of russia. and a republican party that gets behind what it would've opposed if a democratic administration had been behaving in exactly the same way. >> as we know from that report the job that rudy giuliani always wanted to be secretary of state. bret stephens, thank you very much. john harwood with cnbc, thank you for your reporting for that interview with the for rmer vice president. robert costa, moderator of "washington week" on pbs. when i return, congresswoman karen bass is going to join me. trying to determine how broad articles of impeachment should be. the gentlewoman from california's 37th congressional

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democrats in the house judiciary committee worked through the weekend preparing for tomorrow's impeachment hearing. it has been more than two months since the inquiry began. though some democrats became interested in impeachment before then, as robert mueller's investigation played out. where those special counsel's conclusions were seen as complex and nuanced, the ukraine story is different. >> this is a much simpler narrative for voters to

understand than the ins and outs of the mueller report. >> this is much easier to understand. >> this new crisis is easier to understand. >> the story could be told simply. >> the facts are so clear and the story so simple. >> it's not hard to read. >> it's a lot clearer picture than robert mueller, which was much more complicated, many, many more tentacles. >> the question now becomes did house democrats succeed in making the findings understandable? or has the narrative been muddled? joining me is democratic congresswoman karen pass of californ -- bass of california. let me get to what was described in those clips there. the narrative is simple. have you guys been successful communicating that to the american people? >> i certainly think we have. but i think to just talk about it as being simple really kind of trivializes it. because the fact of the matter is that what we really talk about is the gravity of this situation and the urgency.

the fact that the president would attempt to cheat in the next election and that he would use a vulnerable ally in order to do that is just absolutely egregious. do you know that president zelensky tomorrow will be meeting with putin? could you imagine how strong he would have been if the aid had been given to him up front, if he had had the meeting in the white house? now he goes tomorrow to meet with putin and he's going to be in a weakened state. and this was just absolutely shameful. >> that meeting scheduled to take place tomorrow in paris. has there been talk of a timetable? i sat down with jamie raskin this week. he was reluctant to talk about that as the weekend has progressed on how you got information from the white house on how they do not plan to participate. has that clarified things for you as long as how long this is going to take? >> i think it would've been long yore if the white house had participated. and you remember every single thing that they said, they

didn't like the fact that it was secret, we have done all that far and they still refused to participate. so they are not in any position at all to say that this has not been a fair process. it might speed up the situation. all i know right now is that we are having a hearing tomorrow. we don't have any other hearings scheduled. it doesn't mean they are not going to happen. but that's the situation right now. >> let me ask you about those articles of impeachment and how broad or narrow they may be. i will quote here from a north from nbc news. where do you fall on that? are you keen to thumb through volume two of the mueller report and draw out some of that material as you suggest what might be in those articles? >> well, you know, again, for me, i feel the sense of urgency in terms of the fact that the president is trying to cheat in the next election. so it's not so important to me as to how many articles that we have. but what is very, very clear is that this president has an

absolute pattern of abusing his office. and so that is expressed in so many different ways, some of which were in the mueller report. but the mueller report was also talking about the 2016 election. what i'm worried about is the fact that he is cheating, trying to intervene with a foreign power in the next election. he clearly hasn't stopped. his personal attorney is over in ukraine right now. you know that attorney general barr has been traveling the world. and as was talked about in your last segment, they are doing it on behalf of a russian conspiracy scenario that has been completely debunked. >> as you have been up on capitol hill, i imagine you have bumped into some of your republican colleagues. is there any hope you have that you can bring in republicans on board as a result of what's going to happen here tomorrow and as the week progresses? >> i think the question will be will they muster up the courage. because i promise you that they

know better than this. but they are not even able to say that his behavior was inappropriate. you might remember when they tried to do that and the president slapped them back. and so they are left in the completely embarrassing and untenable position of having to defend it. so they can't really argue in substance. so what they do is they just argue and say, well, okay, it's true, he did this, but it really wasn't that bad. he robbed a bank, but, you know, maybe it's not really a crime because he gave the money back. a crime, attempted or not, is what has happened here. an abuse of power, the abuse of power is a part of what the framers meant in the constitution when they set up the impeachment process. this is an example of a high crime and misdemeanor. and our president has committed that on multiple occasions. it is the pattern of his behavior that i think will be most important to be communicated in the articles, not how many articles there are.

>> very quickly here, a big week, we're also expected to get this report from the inspector general from the department of justice on election interference in the 2016 election, law enforcement's reaction to it. what are you going to be looking for in that report? we understand it's going to go against a lot of what the president has been claiming about how that began. >> you know, when will we quit? his own inspector general is going to say that there was no there-there. so now the president supposedly is going to reject the inspector general's report. he is going to keep investigating and investigating and investigating until somebody collaborates his lies. >> congresswoman karen bass of california on the impeachment eve. i know it's been a busy thank you very much. >> thank you. when we return the fbi is now investigating the deadly shooting at a pensacola naval station as an act of terror. we're going to get a live report from pensacola next. en liberty customizes your car insurance,

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pensacola naval. the big question was did the suspect act alone, what is the motive and have we gotten closer to answering those questions at the end of the day. blayne alexander. >> reporter: we are looking they're speaking to people who are associated to the shooter and asking the politic to come forward of any information they may have. we are learning more of the three service members who were killed. people in florida begin to say good-bye. >> reporter: as pensacola gives a final salute to its fallen sailors. more questions are southwesterlyisouthwesterlwirli about the shooter, mohammed alshamra alshamrani. >> our main goal was to confirm whether he acted alone or was he apart of a larger network. >> reporter: officials have yet

to determine the motive. they are investigating it as an act of terrorism. alshamrani walked into this building with a glock 9 millimeters handgun. alshamrani showed three fellow classmates videos over dinner. >> do you believe any students knew the attack beforehand? >> there are several students that are cooperating and providing information. >> reporter: saudi students have been restricted on base by their saudi commander. >> reporter: as officials investigate why alshamrani opening fire, we are learning more of his past. a high school track star, muhammad haitham. >> beautiful smile and always cared about other people.

>> cameron walters, at 21, he always dreamed of being a navy pilot. joshua k. watson, pointing first responders to the shooter. >> he was a hero. god bless his heart. >> all three receiving a hero farewell struck down in the battlefield in their own backya backyard. >> they're our military family. this is horrendous. >> reporter: and stietonight th service members are being transferred, something we see for service members who are killed in war. >> blayne alexander, thank you. michael steel will join me. a live conversation with cedric richmond. i will ask him how soon we'll see those article s of impeachment and our team of producers watching the sunday's show so you don't have to. show so you don't have to. rt ofm building the most powerful

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welcome back to "kasi d.c." our msnbc contributor. kyle cheney and michael steele, advisory for jeb bush and john boehner. the white house is not going to participate in the committee hearing. >> pat cipollone calling the inquiry baseless and backed up by what we have seen over the past few days. lawmakers continue to grab articles of impeachment. rudy giuliani traveled to kiev to meet with several ukrainians. trump's supporter dan everhart

returning to the crime scene to live stream moon dancing. here is the president talking about rudy's trip on saturday at the white house. >> well, i just know he came back from some place and he's going to make a report to the attorney general and to congress. he said he got a lot of good information. i have not spoken to him about that information, but rudy has been one of the great crime fighters the last 50 years. and, he did get back from europe just recently and he has not told me what he found but i think he wants to go before congress and also to say to the attorney general and the department of justice. i hear he found plenty. >> i want to recap, it is at its core about the president of the united states soliciting for

political gain. it is a move literally out of the trump play book in the art of the deal. the president writes, quote ", much as it pays to emphasize the positive, there are are times when the only choice is confrontation. my general attitude all my life has been to fight back. if you are fighting for something you believe in even if it means alienating some people along the way, things usually work out for the best in the end." end quote from donald trump. kyle cheney, take us in the courtroom tomorrow. what is the courtroom going to be like? what can we expect when that hearing begin? >> this is basically the democra democrats' last chance to lay out as clearly as they can for the american people of what evidence they have gathered both in the ukraine investigation which you just described as well

if they're going to bring in any aspect of the mueller investigation, obstruction of justice and potential charges there. they're going to put it as clearly as possible here. here is what we found and here is why. why the president deserves to be moved from office. republicans will be testing their own lawyers on this. there will be a lot of back and forth, we could get some interesting substance to debate. >> marie, what do you want to hear from those lawyers tomorrow. part of this which is towards the lawmakers and making the case against the people. >> what we heard privately believe that he may be impeached. when he's speak to nadler and what he advise nadler to do is demonstrate by every single evidence produced there has been impeachable offense. the fact that we have mulvaney saying there was a quid pro quo,

so what? the record from the white house is not only sufficient but also a pattern. you set up the story perfectly well, david. the fact that rudy giuliani went back to ukraine and said do you have anymore dirt so we can prosecute and basically say there is nothing there. you keep on doing it. over the weekend, george conway suggested kel suggested kellyanne conway's husband, they'll continue to impeach. first ukraine and finding more evidence against mueller. they don't have to take it over to the senate but building that, the legal language of yes not just once but perhaps twice. >> phillip, what do you get when you look at the jared myers' twitter feed tonight. he's not going to be participating in the hearing

tomorrow but he's complaining and talking about the due process. d he's been tweeting a lot for a guy who does not want to participate in the proceeding tomorrow. >> his strategy was give his base enough to assume doubts. the strategy is broadly. but what he's done, he with his allies on capitol hill, he's looking at this basically getting donald trump off the hook. he did not have to do much. republicans continue to have a very strong approval rating. it does not take a lot. all he has to do is put on little things, if you did, happens beneath the surface. well, it does not make sense. that's an argument. he has the coverage he needs to maintain the political base.

>> i read that note from pat cipollone, i call it a note because it is just two paragraphs. i wonder what the republicans are going to do. we have seen them over the last many weelks focusing on procedue or process. is that being tell grafregraphet the white house. what are republicans going to do as a result? >> they want a wall of utter contempt and utter stone walling. they want republicans on the committee to do nothing that conceives the inquiry is proper. there is a factual me for, there is a constitutional bases for it. they want them to see not one inch which is kind of a problem for a lot of republicans in some way because there is an argument to be made here that fits the fact that makes sense that the president should not have done what he did, it does not rise to the level he should be impeached or moved to office. that's not the defense the white house wants. the white house wants not to give a single inch to these

charges. >> what the house is trying to do with the democrats on that committee are trying to do with the reports released this weekend and with us here tomorrow. >> there is a prebuttal here of what republicans are going to say and the effort of how it is going to play out in the future. the judiciary committee report seeks to refute claims by trump, setting out important news. the panel takes exception to claims that the president should have been a greater degree of due process and cross kmam nati cross examination. explain a little bit more, kyle. >> consistent theme that we have heard from republicans, why is the president going to question the witnesses who came in. all these diplomats and white house officials who provided any evidence is going to form the

bases for the articles of impeachment. the white house want to be in the room and pushing back. aside from the fact that republicans lawmakers in the white house. it should be the case that the senate is where the trial happens. that's where the due process happens. the house gathering information and making the indictment, they have to find the evidence could potentially be worth or removing the president from office which is where they are heading and let the senate be where the trial happens or give the president his day in court when he faces a jury which is in this case, the senate. >> for the second week in a row, if it is sunday, senate republicans are pushing propaganda on nbc's "meet the press" of the conspiracy theory that ukraine meddled in the 2016 elections? >> really ukraine meddling into

our election? >> i do. there are considerable evidence. >> senate ted cruz echoing what senator kennedy said last week. you can hear the echo there. richard burr talking to my colleague. >> is there any evidence that ukraine meddle in the election? >> ukraine had a favor in the election. every elected official in the ukraine was for hillary. >> the state department officials and democratic senator all rejected that claim this week. >> are you aware of any evidence that ukraine interfered if the 2016 election? >> i am not. >> our intelligence committee and the representatives from the department of state indicated there was not meddling by

ukraine in our election. clearly people in other countries watched our politics and pulling for one kancandidatr another. influence elections and hack the election is russia. >> the idea of any country had that kind of effect is plain false. >> with me also, our former ambassador, john hunsman. >> vladimir putin is joyful that he had the world talking about something he made up. >> you can hear the senator from texas in that conversation with chuck todd today. there are great consequences on this. >> this is huge. i was on "meet the press" last weekend and everybody around the panel kind of gasped, both were repeating exactly what fiona

hill warned us against, there were going to be propagan begap. when we say the russians interfered, we found their hands in the cookie jar. they're trying to steal the election from hillary clinton. someone from the state department on the ukrainian side came in and she wrote an op-ed on the hill, hey, hillary is good. trump is okay with the fact that russia is trying to steel crimea from us. gou you go to the other allegation quote on quote, a ukrainian official on his facebook page saying something is happening. it is not kwequivocate of what e

president does. i have to show you, i am speaking to folks on the ground when i do a lot of my work. people are starting to begin to feel like they can't tell a difference. that's when our servant leaders are meant, we are pulling the principles of democracy and the right to free press. that's when things will start to crumble and that's why it is important to get to the bottom of the inquiry. >> let's wrap this up. phil, i am going to give you the last word. we have seen dispute over troops and what facts are. i imagine at the point we are talking about there, we can see it on display tomorrow. >> yeah. absolutely. again, it goes back to what i said last time. republicans who were sitting in that room understand what their task is. their task is to hold the front line more than that. it is providing states and oxygen. donald trump wants to present what actually happens. none is accurataccurate. the idea that ukrainians

interfered, i am so embarrassed that ted cruz acted on it because there is sill substance to it. the upshot, those republicans in the room had been fighting the fight that donald trump wants to see and keeping republicans broadly on board. they're going to keep on doing that and keep pushing forward and the results is baseless. the point afterwards, nothing is changed. that's what they are hoping right now. the oxygen here is responsibility. >> kyle cheney. thank you. i am going to ask everybody to stay put. our team of producers are watching the sunday's show so you don't have to. elizabeth warren released dunew details. congress cedric richmond is going to join me live. he's been working through the weekend at the capitol.

aft i want to share this reminder from the president at at the break. >> we have a situation where we are looking strongly. they take a shower and water comes dripping out very quietly dripping out. >> jerry, jerry? [ laughter ] you too, huh? >> yeah! >> these showers are horrible. there is no pressure, i can't get the shampoo out of my head >> me either. >> if i don't have a good shower, i am not myself. i feel weak, i am not cramer. nor

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tomorrow a number of the house judiciary committees are going to turn their atetention o the articles of impeachment. the chairman of the committee, jerry nadler, seems less certain of it in the interview this morning. >> is it possible that you will vote on the article of impeachment this coming week. >> it is possible. i don't know. >> is that your goal? >> my goal is to vote. >> i am talking about the timeline. >> my goal is to do it expeditiously and fairly as possible depending how long it will take. >> cedric richmond. he represents louisiana's second congressional district going to new orleans and baton rouge.

help us with the timetable. where do we go after this hearing tomorrow? >> the truth is and the chairman gave you the answer just not on a long way. we'll let the facts determine what happens and when it happens. tomorrow we'll get a report from the intelligence committee. also we'll hear from people of budget appropriations about the withheld aid and we'll deliberate and we'll see where we'll go from there. i think the first thing is you have to get the facts presented to you and then you make a decision. tomorrow is going to be an important day. all day tomorrow, we'll be receiving reports from intelligence committee and both sides. you have been digesting reports that we have seen so far. you heard testimonies and i wonder what those internal deliberations are like. go narrow or broad when it comes to these articles. what are you thinking personally at this point? >> these are crystal clear. the part that i want to

emphasize when we talk about the speed of it. this is a continual enterprise that's going on. right now the president is putting our 2020 presidential elections at risk. part of what we have to do is stop this ongoing crime. we have rudy giuliani that's still over there and china investigate on his political opponent. the urgency is the fact that we have to have a free and clear election without outside influence and this president has solicited outside for personal gain above public interest in harm's way with russia. >> and a number of reports to go through. >> i wonder how much you are looking through the mueller report. you are looking at volume two from "the washington post."

the articles reaching beyond ukraine of liberals and dozens of democrats and swing district to understand the complex mueller findings. it is simplicity everything here. >> i think it shows a pattern of the flat abusive power by this president. when he gets caught, all he does is lie for people coming forward on what they know. again, i would like to stress that we are trying to prevent the continued commission of this crime which is soliciting foreign interference and democracy. >> the republicans on your committee being part of a stone wall. that's what they are going to be doing tomorrow. the white house is going to be participating here. what's the strategy that you and your colleagues have to deal with that. how do you highlight their

unwillingness to engage with the substance? >> they're turning their justice and moral to the president of the united states. he audit them to make a spectacle of this process. that we are not going to do. first of all, this is not a happy time for democrats. it is not easy. it is a necessarily time, protecting our democracy so you will see us very serious, you will see us solicit facts and you will see us talk to the american people in a way they'll understand this really is a danger to our democracy and so i think you will see a serious effort from us and i think you will see for a lack of a better description, just a clown show on the other side unfortunately because all they want to do is distract from the obvious, they know and we know that the president has done this and if he has any evidence to the contrary, i am open to look at

any excalppaltory evidence. >> i want to ask you, you are in law school, could you imagine being in this situation? what is it like to reckon the grave responsibility or even describe it. >> the truth the matter is no. when was elected in congress, i spoke to college students of the possibility of a memb-- of -- responsibilities of being a member of congress. i never ever thought that i would be sitting in the united states congress presiding over a

president who abuses his power and lawless and will not participate with the investigation or cooperate. nixon cooperated with the investigation to a certain extent. i never thought i would be here. this president is afraid of losing a fair election. >> i want to pivot here and ask you to answer questions. joe biden's campaign for the democratic nomination. what's your response to that, to the vice president as a campaign strategy going after the judge and his lack of support among voters. >> the vice president is right to point out the fact that the vice president is not new to the fight of civil rights. he's not new to having a

relationship with african-americans. they're going to say we know joe and joe knows us and he means what he says and he says what he means. we always have a relationship. he shows us respect and he never forget who elected him. and so i think that it is fair for the vice president to point that out. to the extent that the diversity among the democratic party and democrats of color will make a big difference in this race, i think having a track record on civil rights and being on the battlefield for a long time for justice and inequality will make a big difference. >> last question here, i read this quote the last hour from "politico" piece. the voters bringing up the

baseless allegation that's made against joe biden and his son. this is a result of that. joe biden does not have a clear message and iowa voters are starting to take notice after his encounter on thursday with the retired voter, the former vice president played a role in landing his son a job out of ukraine gas incident. you have to have a way to saying this simply so people can move on. >> the truth is i think he gave the clearest answer you can give. he said "it is a damn lie." every news outlet and intelligence agency has looked at this said it is a lie. fiona hill says this is more propaganda from the russians trying to influence our election. i don't know what you want to hear from the vice president. he said it is a lie, it is not

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ali. >> reporter: she made some news tonight and look at it at large, democrats are the party that talks about how unified they are. they sort of been looking anything but. >> less than two months before the first ballots are cast. on diversity. >> we are spiraling towards debate stage, we could have six people with no diversity whatsoever. >> i thought to myself, donald trump would eat him up. >> even on voters. >> about $55 billion. >> elizabeth warren and pete buttigieg's latest rhetorical brawl is putting big business front and center. warren challenging pete buttigieg to release his

campaign and opening it to the press. >> it is time to disclose who the bund llers are and who's ge paragraph speci ing special access. >> reporter: pete buttigieg is saying he can't release specifics because of a non-disclosure agreement. he's not just playing defense, demanding more tax returns from warren. >> i think it is a good idea for her to release tax returns as i have covering your entire career in the private sector. >> reporter: what remains to be seen is that voters care more about business ties or the business of beating trump. >> i realized that some people may say do we really want a general election between two new york billionaires to which i will say who's the other one?

>> reporter: david, the warren campaign flushing out the money that was made behind those pieces. we knew back in may the case that elizabeth warren worked on. tonight they are putting out roughly after 30 years of legal work. warren made just under $2 million. those are not the tax returns that mayor pete buttigieg challenged her out. the warren campaign is saying this accounting is better because tax returns don't show an itemized list or sources of income for that. elizabeth warren already shown 11 years of taxes. they say that would be way more than she should be expected to put out. this does put pete buttigieg on his hill, so this definitely puts him on defense heading into the week. >> i am listening to your e-mail and you have this list of cases in regards to, i wonder when you

put it together, what's the picture of the merges the senator did? >> reporter: look, it certainly gets in the weave. going through all of those is tricky. when luyou look at the legal wo, there are arguments to be made on both sides. a lot of it deal with bankruptcy laws and cases. the kind of thing that elizabeth warren worked on. if you ask the warren campaign, these were cases where she was working on behalf of cooperations in some cases but she was doing it with an eye towards the little guy. a little bit of brand before we head out before people start to vote in iowa and new hampshire.

more transparency, never a bad thing. >> ali vitali in south carolina. >> michael steele, let me turn to you about the work that pete buttigieg did for us. talking about the same thing. scholarship has been a lot of back and forth. he's calling on mckenzie to say more of the work he did. >> how much resonance does it say to voters? >> i think this process attack between the the democratic candidat candidate is getting into the way who's the most effective building a case against president trump. >> how much these candidates have spent. tom steyer at $60.2 million.

and bloomberg. the amount of money he's spending on fuel organizations. your reaction to that and your sense of what the translation is from those political goals to what happens come convention time? >> both steyer and bloomberg trying to demonstrate they can be apart of the aggressive party that definitely left from where they were four years ago. their challenge is to make sure yes, i am a billionaire but i have progressive values. at the end of the day, what's going to get a lot of democrats coming out to vote is not traditional democrats. most democrats already realize that beating donald trump is the most important thing to do. steyer, how do they grow that electoral base and how do you get young voters. young voters are 12 million more

than baby boomers. this is when we'll see that. the work that mckenzie, pete pete buttigieg did with mckenzie, there was an explosive expose found mckinly was tied to a tune of $2 million. it is not small. when you start getting and peeling it apart. yes, people don't want to know about their financial. you actually understand what i am trying to figure out day in and day out right before i go to bed. do you understand it right now, something is amiss in america. the dream that was promised is not reachable. people want to know are you aligned of corporations or the peop american people. >> what does it say about the apparatus that we know and the process as we know. you have senator booker and kamala harris and you have bloomberg waging in on this

national campaign. are we at a moment the democratic electric and party is going to have to reckon. >> this is donald trump came out of the blue and poured all this money and saw and understood the party was at a good route to the president. i would take in that regard, bloomberg is right now at 4% in the polls. it is interesting in part because sanders has a core of constituency and neither of them does. that's where the problem is and them and ever so focused on. we got to beat trump. we got to go fighting. >> thank you very much, still

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it has become all but certain. >> president trump on track to become -- >> the third u.s. president to be impeached. >> the case we have with the guilty verdict in about three minutes flat. >> this is a kangaroo court. >> nancy pelosi she has no choice. >> it is a big difference between what is alleged between the president of the united states and what actually happened. >> their talking point was bribery, bribery, bribery. they can't prove a crime. >> he said will you do us a favor based on the united states going through a lot. >> name former presidents that did that. >> is it possible that you are going to vote on articles of impeachment this coming week? >> it's possible. >> i don't think we know the timing of it. >> you seem to hint that you're inclined to include some of the allegations in the mueller report. >> all of the potential articles of impeachment are on the table. >> we should proceed only on those where we have direct

evidence. >> rudy giuliani traveled overseas. >> he was in ukraine this week. >> it is weird he's over there. >> rudy giuliani is furthering this plot. >> so many times people have said ukrainians never got involved in the 2016 election. >> do you believe ukraine meddled in the election in 2016? >> i do. and i think there is considerable evidence. >> you do? >> that's the kasie dvr and a sad note today. karl spiney has died. helped raise so many of the children in this country starring at big bird on "sesame street." here he is with first lady michelle obama. so it was in 2012 during the presidential election carol spiny responded in kind to these comments from then presidential candidate mitt romney. >> i'm sorry, jim.

i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend things to pay for us. >> do you know who loves debates? >> who. >> defishes. >> yeah. no, i get it. it's a thinker. i like that. >> it is a thinker. >> big bird, everyone. >> thank you. "sesame street" turned 50 this year. they are honoring the show. that's big bird and elmo on the red carpet. you see there matt voguele said he is wearing the costume in his late mentor's honor. he was 85 years old. that does it for us here tonight. we'll be back from 7:00 to 9:00 eastern time. tomorrow live coverage of the itch people. hearings all day long. but up next ari melber with

"impeachment: white house in crisis." for now, good night from new york. good evening. i'm ari melber and welcome back to our special series: "impeachment: white house in crisis"ment tonight's program is the first since speaker pelosi has made it official. democrats have begun drafting the articles of impeachment against president trump. tonight we look at how they could draw on the findings. and the work ahead for chairman nadler's judiciary committee which holds its next hearing tomorrow. we'll be joined by political and legal experts and the biggest findings in that impeachment report we are all still digesting. we have big other precedents where politicians were caught up in