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i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> he was like, "i'm going to destroy you." the fear was terrible. i can't even describe it. it's a surreal thing. people thought i was dead. >> the attack was sudden and savage. >> i saw a man standing there. >> i heard multiple shots. >> the wife, the only witness. >> the only thing i could see was his eyes. >> her story was concerning about a masked man shooting her husband and leaving her alive. i'm worried, did she hire somebody? >> then a revelation. the dead man had a dangerous dream.
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>> ended up finding a lot of paper related to the oil business. >> i remember him telling us, i'm going to make millions of dollars. >> a big money venture oozing with outlaws. >> a violent individual, been to prison for robbery. big man. 250 pounds of steroid, rock muscle. significant criminal history. >> greed is what killed my dad. greed is what caused all of this. >> a thirst for oil, an lust for blood. >> i trusted a con artist. i trusted a sociopath. >> wild isn't it, what can happen to a quiet little prairie town when oil comes along? >> yeah. ♪ among the green and pleasant landscapes of american privilege is a fine, historic rise of land
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called the south hill. here for 100 years has been the home of spokane, washington's elite in their queen annie craftsman mansions, peace lives here. quiet and certainly not the kind of story we're about to tell. the kind of story with ambitious men, dark plots and dames. >> i asked him. i said, am i just the dumb blonde who missed it or did everyone miss it? >> the one so many people missed, before that dreadful event here in the wooded enclave of life's winners. >> he thought that god was blessing him and my mom. >> we thought we were walking on water. >> here they were, empty nesters, all alone in their house on the south hill, convinced that their successes, their six grown kids, their good life were products of an unflinching trust in god. >> you know, we finally got out of the desert. and he was going to get into the promised land. >> yes, the promised land.
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riches beyond imagining. as the not so dumb blonde knew so well. >> it was a madhouse, it was the wild west. >> so maybe that's why the thing on the south hill wasn't going to stay here. >> my life will never be the same. i'm sorry. >> it was wintertime when it happened. christmas season, 15th of december, 2013. a sunday evening after church. >> 911, what are you reporting? >> there's been shots. a man kicked into our house and shot my husband. >> this is how our story began. in an ugly splash of violence and terror. >> what's your address? >> south garfield. >> what are the numbers? >> if he here's ars me, he's goo shoot me.
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>> but was this the beginning of the story? or the end? that was the evening spokane police detectives brian sesnick and mark burbridge were pulled into the strangest case of their careers. >> it was the most unique homicide i'd investigated, and i knew that from the first moments of my involvement. >> really? just you knew? >> yes. >> it was sesnick who drove over first to the address at south hill. the sort of place a homicide detective can go a whole career without visiting a single time. >> the house is in a very upper-class neighborhood. >> and the south hill, that's like where you want to be in town. >> right. the street that it's on, i'd never been to before. >> why would you as a homicide detective? you're not gonna go there, right? >> there's just not crime up there in general. so it was very odd. >> the home the detective was going to was owned by a businessman named carlile. and his wife of many years, alberta. first responders had responded some time earlier, put in their
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crime scene tape. sesnick walked into the house. >> it was just a weird scene all in all. this was december 15th. there's christmas music playing throughout the house. >> that would be bizarre. >> it was very bizarre. they're very religious people, so there's religious scripture written on the walls. then you have this horribly violent and gruesome murder. with the body laying on the floor that you're investigating. it was a very, very odd scene. >> 63-year-old doug carlili was lying on the floor, clearly a victim of a close-range shooting. >> there was a lot of blood around the body. a lot of shell casings. a lot of bullets laying around. >> how badly was this person damaged? >> he'd been shot seven times. it was obviously a very brutal attack. it wasn't just a one time shot and the person ran out. >> clearly someone was making sure. >> correct. whoever had done this, we knew that they wanted to make sure that he didn't survive. >> and whatever happened here
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didn't appear to be motivated by burglary, robbery. the whole entire house was locked up tight. windows, doors. >> he still had his wallet and cell phone. everything was in place. nothing was ransacked that we could find. >> it was elberta, doug's wife, who called 911 in what sounded like a state of abject terror. arriving first responders found her hiding in an upstairs closet. they took her downtown to talk to burbridge. >> i want to see my husband. >> the detective was ready to sympathize, of course, but his training, his instinct, his eye told him not yet. something looked a little off here. >> what did you make of her? >> she's unique in some of her responses, threw up red flags, made me concerned about whether she was involved in this or not. >> what kind of responses? >> she didn't care about the police investigation.
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all she cared about was hugging her husband and praying for him. she wanted to pray over his body and she was very upset that the patrol officers would not let her do that. >> i want my husband! >> there's nothing we can do for your husband right now. >> well, i can hold him. i could have told him i loved him. i could have prayed for him. >> then when the investigator asked her what happened -- >> this is tapped. >> neither the telling nor the story made any sense at all. coming up -- >> i'm worried whether she had a motive. money, jealousy. he has a girlfriend she's mad about. >> the wife's tale raises questions and suspicions. >> rehearsed is a good word. >> that sounded that way to you? >> yes, it did. >> when "dateline" continues. these are real people, not actors, who've got their eczema under control. with less eczema, you can show more skin. so roll up those sleeves. and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. dupixent is the first treatment
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fl police force. had heard all the lies and tears, so he played close attention attention when elberta carlile told him what happened that sunday evening in the house on south hill. >> what happened tonight? >> we went to church. then we went to a church function. nothing, i don't know what happened. hell happened. a nightmare happened. that's what's happened. >> and elberta's story, said detective burbridge. just didn't add up. >> all of a sudden i hear it's okay, it's okay. then i hear back off, back off, back off! then when i heard the back off, i saw, i looked and saw a man standing there in all black. >> her story was concerning about a masked man wearing all black, coming into the house and shooting her husband and leaving and leaving her alive. made me worry that maybe she hired a hit man or maybe she was making up the story and she was
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involved in what happened. >> the thing was, the killer saw elberta. she came right out and said so. they stared at each other, soul to soul. so why would a hit man leave an eyewitness alive? unless she was in on it. >> i'm worried whether she had a motive. money, jealousy, boyfriend, girlfriend. did she kill him herself? did she hire somebody? did she get one of the children to do it? these are all my concerns. >> besides, says burbridge, he's seen many people caught by sudden violence and grief, and elberta was agitated, certainly, but to his practiced eye, her emotional reaction was somehow flat as if practiced. it bothered him. >> how long had you been home? >> it happened instantly. when we got home, it was like somebody ambushed him. >> the way she told her story about a masked man killing her husband of 42 years. >> it almost seemed like it was
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rehearsed or like she thought about this and what could i say? >> rehearsed is a good word. >> it sounded that way to you? >> yes, it did. >> but you don't have to take it from the detective. we were able to arrange an interview with elberta, too. >> my whole life was over as i knew it. >> elberta told us that when she and her husband returned from church that evening, they drove through the gate of their property as usual. >> i'll get the gate, you get the door. >> did anything look unusual? >> no, it just didn't feel right. so i started to head up the stairs by this time. i got all the way to the top of the stairs and i started down the hall when i heard muffled noises. i headed right back downs stairs. and i got down all the way to the bottom stairs. i called out to doug and i said, "doug, is somebody here?" and i looked to my left. the man was standing right in front of the doorway. >> how far away from you? >> ten feet at the most.
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nine feet. and i looked at him. and it was a man. all in black. and he had a mask on. and he had a gun pointed where i knew my husband was standing. >> you couldn't see doug. >> i couldn't see doug. >> you just saw this man? >> i only saw this man in black. he had a mask on. the only thing i could see what his eyes. and he looked at me. he never moved the gun. and he blinked three times, and i thought, why is he blinking at me? >> why is that guy in my house holding a gun? >> i thought, oh, my god? what do i do? he's going to kill me before i get up the stairs. i pulled myself up the rail because my legs wouldn't work. and i was just starting down the hall when i heard multiple shots. >> did you realize right away what must have happened? >> oh, absolutely. i knew my husband must have been shot. so i thought i've got to hide.
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>> elberta ran to a closet on the home's second floor, she said, called 911 and shutted door. >> stay on the line for me, okay? >> oh, my god. somebody just shot my husband, i think. oh, god. hurry. find me. i'm hiding in the closet. >> okay. i want you to stay on the line. >> do you remember what it felt like in there, what you felt like? >> oh, sheer desperation. just sheer desperation. and just this overwhelming need to go to my husband. i wanted to go to him. i wanted to comfort him. i wanted to tell him i loved him. i wanted to tell him, it's going to be okay. i wanted to pray for him. >> oh, please hurry. please. he fired shots, like, six shots. he had a gun and he was dressed in black. >> when the police arrived, they found elberta in the closet.
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>> i want to go to my husband. they said they're working on him. and i said no, i want to go see him, please let me go to my husband. and they said no, you can't go down there. >> did you ever get to see him that night? >> no. no. >> now elberta found herself face-to-face with detective burbridge, trying to get limb to believe a story about a masked killer who stared right at her and yet left her alive to tell the tale. >> i mean, that sounds a little made up almost. >> yes, it does. sounds hollywood. >> have you ever heard of a case of someone laying eyes on a witness, to him killing someone and didn't take any action? >> i've never had that happen. >> so you would have expected -- >> something. at least an attempt. >> but there was something in elberta's story that did make sense. before the murder as she and doug drove to church they saw something out of place. >> there was a van kind of sitting up against the curb.
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a white van. >> like it didn't belong there or something? >> yeah. >> a white van. as police canvassed the neighborhood after the murder, a witness across the street said she saw it too. >> she had come home around 5:00 that evening and noticed a white van parked in front of her house. and it was parked in a way that made her nervous. to the point she thought maybe someone was breaking in. >> why would she be suspicion of a van? >> right. a van she'd never seen before, and in that neighborhood everyone knows everyone. >> the question was, what did the white van have to do with the murder of doug carlile, or they wondered, his wife elberta. coming up, a neighborhood security camera. what tales would it tell? >> we actually saw that suspect and the path that he ran. >> could you tell who it was? >> all you could really see is that it was a subject, appeared to be muscular build wearing all black. >> when "dateline" continues.
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>> this is a secure building. if you need to go somewhere, knock on the door, okay? >> i'm in jail? >> the victim's wife, elberta carlile, told a crazy story about a man in black bursting into the house killing her husband, looking her square in the eye but leaving her alive. so, burbridge wondered, did she hire him? >> in my world, wives kill husbands. so the relationship is a probability. >> but then up at the house they heard a curious story from a neighborhood that very evening a couple of hours before the shooting. mysterious white van was parked just across the street from the carliles' house. >> 911, what are you reporting? >> now they just came back and are sitting there. and i'm really freaked out. >> of course, in many if not most neighborhoods in america, a parked white van might not attract a bit of attention. >> maybe i'm just being paranoid, but it's really bizarre a van like that would be in this neighborhood.
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>> this is the south hill after all. nondescript white vans don't just show up here. and the neighbor noticed and doug carlile ends up murdered. >> we didn't know if it was related or not, but it was obviously something that we considered immediately. >> and again, this being the south hill, another neighbor had the wherewithal to provide a special kind of help. >> a homeowner in the neighborhood had a video camera that covered his driveway and we picked up what we thought was the van about two hours before the murder. >> here it is, that video, and sure enough, a white van coming and going on the streets of south hill that night. but did it have anything to do with the murder? and what about the man in black elberta said she saw? if he actually existed. hired killer or whatever, he must have waited somewhere around the house for the carliles to get back from church. he could have killed doug carlile, then possibly escaped in the white van. no one saw anyone going out the front door, but what about back
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here? behind the house? they called in a tracking dog and stood back and watched. >> basically, the track went through some arbor vitae. over a little fence, through the neighbor's backyard. in the very back corner of their yard was a gate. and there was a puddle of water and a good foot print. and it was apparent it was fairly recent. >> could be your guy. >> could be our guy. just beyond that -- just outside the gate was what appeared to be a welding glove lying in the weeds. >> a welding glove? >> a welding glove. we thought is this something that may have been dropped? but it was odd enough and in a place we knew the suspect had run after the incident that we ended up collecting it as evidence. >> not really knowing whether that had anything to do with your murder. >> correct. we didn't know. you know, in something like this, where it's a complete whodunit, you take everything and hope something ends up helping your case. >> they kept looking. so did the dog.
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just beyond where the welding glove was found was a small wooded area, and across the street, an elementary school which meant maybe the school's security system could get them a picture of the guy. >> another detective was able to get that video, almost immediately. >> and sure enough, when they looked at the video, there he was. >> we actually saw that suspect and saw the path that he ran. >> could you tell who it was or very much about him? >> it was very grainy video. all you could really see is that it was a subject. appeared to be muscular build wearing all black. >> all black. it was hard to make out, but there he was in the video. the elusive man in black running toward a main road. when detective burbridge arrived and got a look at this -- >> i've done a lot of homicides and at that point thought it was a professional hit man, probably unrelated to our victim at all or the person involved in this, and i went and found my lieutenant. i knew this was going to be a very complicated investigation
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and we needed a lot more manpower to get very fast on the case further down the road. >> and so in a matter of hours, detectives were called in from all over the department, time off was canceled. so many questions to answer. what else did the neighbors see? what did that welding glove have to do with anything? and who was the man in black? and a more basic question. was elberta carlile involved in a plot to kill her husband? >> coming up -- >> the closer i got to the lord,it's like the further we got apart. >> even elberta admits their marriage had seen its share of trouble. >> i did something drastic and left him without his knowledge. >> take the kids with you? >> of course. >> when "dateline" continues. man: sneezes skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief.
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million from corporate clients during her private legal work since 1986. warren released these financial records amid fellow stwount rival pete buttigieg in her wake of the criticism of his corporate work. and the house judiciary committee will hold their second public impeachment hearing on monday. chairman jerry nadler hinted he expects there may be a vote on the articles of impeachment by the end of the week. now back to "dateline." as police combed the south hill looking for evidence and suspects in the murder of doug carlile, his wife had no idea that her demeanor had raised alarm. >> who cares about stupid evidence? >> but police 101. the victim's nearest and dearest often become suspect number one. and elberta, with her wild story, was certainly no exception. then detective burbridge was able to get a close look at the
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evidence, especially that video of the running man in black. and -- >> immediately it became apparent to me that whoever did this spent time planning it because of the very elaborate escape route. made me concerned that elberta was probably telling the truth. >> when he saw all that planning including the videotape showing the man in black he felt it was far less likely that elberta carlile was anything but a victim. but in her brain, when detectives kept going over this and that, two thoughts blocked out all else, her desire to see her husband and an overwhelming need to tell her children what happened. >> i went to call them and i couldn't see the numbers. i went to the police and said help me, wait, you can't help me, you don't know who i'm looking for. >> but finally an hour away in the town of moses lake, the phone rang at the home of shane
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carlile. >> i received a phone call from my mother. we were hanging ornaments on the christmas tree. she said in just kind of a screaming panic, shane, your dad, your dad, he was shot six times. >> you called everybody? >> yeah. the thought hadn't even sank in yet we just started contacting everybody and had to listen to everybody's cries and screams over the phone. >> carlile's oldest, melanie, was at her own daughter's ballet recital across the state near seattle. >> he goes dad's been shot. and i said what do you mean dad's been shot? dad has been killed. >> and so she greeted her daughters after the recital with the news about grandpa. >> they loved their grandpa. he was the greatest to them.
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to all three of them. they had really good relationships with him. >> it was a relationship that almost wasn't for any of them. >> doug and bertie, as he liked to call her, were teenaged sweet hearts, married young. and as often happens, even as their family grew their marriage shrivelled. what happened? >> life happens. >> bertie found god. doug did not. >> the closer i got to the lord, it's like the further we got apart. >> until it became clear to bertie she won't go into detail, that she and doug were doomed, unless -- >> i did something drastic. i left him without his knowledge. >> take the kids with you? >> of course. >> so you went off on your own with four kids. >> mmm-hmm. no job, no nothing. yeah. to a city i didn't know. >> to seattle. 350 miles from the little town in oregon where they lived back then.
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her church kept her going. well, doug, here's the story according to bertie. he kept guns, said bertie, lots of them. and lost and alone, he decided to use one on himself. >> as he crawled toward the guns, he said he heard this horrid voice that said "he's mine". and then he heard another voice that said, "no, he's not. he belongs to me". and he said it was a thunderous, authoritative, shook the whole room voice. and next thing he knew, he felt arms picking him up. and putting him on the bed. >> he told you this. >> yes, he told me this months later. >> quite a story. the one that got doug saved and back with his family. after that, he started an excavation business, and as his kids grew up, six of them. many followed him and became the family business. >> he's a salesman, you know.
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he can talk you into something. >> a charmer. >> yeah. totally. total charmer. >> what was his business philosophy? was he a numbers-crunching guy or a handshake guy? >> he was a hand shake guy. he expected his word and a hand shake was good. and he knew it was. he expected that of others and that isn't always true. >> and there were setbacks. two bankruptcies. trouble with the irs, a string of failed businesses and falling out with business partners who accused doug of being less than honest and of not paying his bills. how would doug react to those? >> he never gave up. and we always took care of what we owed. and we would move forward. >> and, as he entered mid-life doug carlile seemed content doing deals while his sons shane and seth ran the business. >> he'd give the shirt off his back to anybody. he just had a huge heart. enough room in it for everybody. huge heart.
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>> and taught you what you know. >> absolutely. every aspect of business. every aspect of life. >> when the kids were grown, doug and bertie ended up in spoke spokane to be next to their church whose pastor preached the prosperity gospel, that god rewards belief with financial success. they certainly looked successful when they bought that house on south hill. >> they wanted to get an older house like that. it's something they love, but they also always wanted all the family to come for all the holidays and stay with them. >> so there's a bedroom for everybody. >> we all had our own room. worked out pretty good. >> did it look to you as if your dad and your mom were finally at the place where they were on the top of the hill? >> they were doing the best i ever saw them do. they were happy. they had got it. they'd figured it out. >> but now, doug carlile was dead. and detectives tallied up the signs of his earthly wealth. still parked in the drive, elberta's new mercedes.
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doug's new pickup and inside doug's office, documents detailing the family's fortune. >> there was a lot of financial paperwork. and the ones that struck me immediately was there was loan paperwork that had appeared mr. carlile had filled out for different businesses and they had his net value at between $6 million and $12 million, depending on which piece of paper you looked at. >> and then there were the documents the detectives couldn't read. that is the ones written in arabic. who was doug carlile? successful, god-fearing businessman? or what? >> coming up. >> i remember him telling us, you know, i'm going to make millions of dollars, and that is going to be it. this is going to be for our family. we're all going to be rich. >> investigators took a hard look at doug's business practices, did he make any enemies? they may have a reason to be angry at him.
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>> our suspect list kept growing. >> i was running this investigation eventually in about eight directions, trying to eliminate a lot of business partners. seeing in mr. carlile had a secret. >> even seasoned detectives are surprised. >> i just don't believe in coincidences like that. >> when "dateline" continues. >>s >>s oh, what a relief it is! so fast!
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sesnick took a look at the clues dug up that first night. surveillance videos showing a white van circling the area. elberta's story about a masked shooter dressed in black. the video of a black-clad man running away. all that could mean one thing. this was a hit, a professional killing. which begged the question, why would anyone want to kill a beloved, god fearing grandfather, murdered while christmas music filled his big hold house. >> it was almost a surreal scene. >> perhaps some answers would come from documenwhat they foun doug's office. documents half in english, half in arabic. and those they could read were very interesting indeed. >> there was prefilled out paperwork promising 100% return on investment in 90 days if you'd invest in their company.
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>> so it appeared your victim had been promising huge returns on investment. >> correct. he had a whole binder of names of people who have bought into this and invested. >> wait a minute, who offers a 100% return so fast? was this for real? the names and reports all seemed to be related to one thing. >> we ended up finding a lot of paperwork related to the oil business in north dakota. >> the oil business? why that? doug carlile, remember, was an excavator, not an oil man. but, of course a whole army of ambitious, hardworking men had established careers to grab a piece of the wealth dangling so endicingly by north dakota's oil-fracking boom. thus, were prairie towns on steroids and men bursting with pent-up testosterone. by the time doug met his awful
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fate in 2013 -- the wild black gold rush around the bakken airfields had peaked. but investors looking for a big payday wouldn't have known that yet. and with great bads of? and with eager cash, they chased a stake in what they hope were billions still in the ground. apparently, doug carlile was one of them. according to family, he got turned onto oil by a friend who knew a guy. >> he told us about north dakota. hey, it's booming there. you should go check things out and see what's happening. >> first, doug partnered in a trucking company that served north dakota's many oil rigs. an outfit called blackstone, started by the guy his friend introduced him to. then opportunity knocked. one of those opportunities of a lifetime, ordained from above, according to doug. >> the whole thing kind of fell into his lap. and i think he thought that was his calling from god to move forward in that lease. >> an oil lease that is. a lease that would give doug and any partners he could bring in,
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the exclusive right to drill for oil on 640 acres of land on the mha indian reservation. the catch was that sort of opportunity doesn't come cheap. >> so you had to raise some money. >> oh, yeah. the lease was almost $2 million. >> and to raise that, doug carlile tapped his business partners and even his kids. >> i put $100,000 in it. it wasn't for a return or anything. it was to help him with his dream to fulfill that. >> but the next step to fulfilling doug's dream was even more daunting. finding investors to pay for drilling as many as eight wells on the property and that price was much steeper, more than $100 million, but the potential payoff was immense. and doug firmly believed god's will, a reward for his faith. >> we thought we were walking on water. you know, with the whole deal. we thought this is a miracle.
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>> i remember him telling us we're going to make millions of dollars, this is for the family. we're all going to be rich. >> we sat on the couch one day and he said, what would you do if you had all the money you could ever want? and i said, so, if we had this money then we would use it to serve the lord, to serve ministries, to serve people, our family. >> but now all those good intentions, all those dreams were gone. now detectives slogged through the paperwork on doug carlile's desk. those documents in arabic turned out to be a scam a con man was trying to run on doug. but doug they could see had been making promises, too, to investors. promises he couldn't keep and he must have known it. 100% return practically overnight? impossible. >> meaning these were partners who had come in, and now he may have owed them a tremendous amount of money. >> correct. >> they may have a reason to be pretty mad at him.
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>> and our suspect list kept growing. >> how many partners did that guy have anyway? >> about ten that we could find, there may be more. >> detective burbridge began calling doug's partners and discovered most of them lived in or around washington. any one of them who could be considered a person of interest was hundreds or thousands of miles away from spokane the night doug was murdered. >> i don't believe in coincidences like that. >> coincidences that they were not there? >> correct. >> in other words, they planned to be not there when something was going to happen? >> yes, sir. >> where do you go and who do you target? >> i was running this investigation trying to eliminate business partners. did mr. carlile have a secret life? he had a lot of failed business dealings in his other businesses. so i had a lot of concerns. >> angry ex-business partners? angry current business partners? what, if anything did she have
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to do with it? >> yeah. i mean, obviously, i didn't know at the time what he was doing. >> coming up -- detectives learn about a charismatic couple knee-deep in doug's oil venture. >> they looked like ken and barbie, their perfectly white teeth and their tans. >> did they know anything about the murder? and then finally, investigators have someone to question. >> i researched his criminal history and knew he had a very significant criminal history. so i was concerned. was he my hit man? >> we're going to start talking about some things honestly here. >> okay, that's fine. >> people tell me that you were the shooter. >> when "dateline" continues.
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besides just hold her. it was horrible. >> the very thing the carliles hoped would create wealth, security, happiness had brought instead nothing but grief. but, remember, this, the evidence suggested, was a hit job. somebody must have ordered doug's execution. so now the detectives try to figure out who. >> did he have any disputes with anybody? >> yes. >> inevitable probably, when high-stakes investors go after a prize, an oil lease, and doug had been promising potential investors returns that so far just hadn't materialized. any number of partners might have felt they'd been taken for a ride. but who? and elberta who was no longer a suspect offered a possibility. >> who did he have a dispute with? >> his name is james henrikson. >> james henrikson. he was the man who had gotten doug interested in the oil play
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in the first place. the man with his wife sarah were known as the barbie and ken of the oil patch. this guy worked for them. his name is rick airy. >> for lack of a better term, they stuck out like a couple of turds in a punch bowl. >> well, one way to put it. james met sarah at a drive-thru coffee stand. she was a barista. >> what was he like? >> he was calm, cool, collected, older man, good-looking. he was fun. we'd always go out. he was nice. it was easy. i never thought i'd marry him or go do business with him. >> but that's what she did. they moved to the oil patch in 2011, got married in minot, north dakota, and by 2013, he was the charismatic face of a major trucking operation called blackstone, and she was the blonde on his arm and the senior company official. sarah signed the checks.
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blackstone was the business doug first invested in, before he got interested in the oil lease. it was a big operation. 100 trucks hauling water to and from oil fracking sites. very profitable. james let it be known that he was backed by a billion dollar trust fund. >> i was like, this guy's a winner. >> a lot of money around. was the company making money? >> yes, it sure seemed like it. >> and james was buff, all man. >> it's 20 degrees outside and he'd be wearing a t-shirt. his arms are pumped pup. >> he's a buff guy. >> he wants you to see his guns. he's showing them off. their perfectly white teeth and their tans. they looked like ken and barbie. they didn't fit in at all. >> not a nickname sarah took to, mind you. >> no, i feel like i have somewhat of a brain, i don't want to be called just a barbie. >> you're living in a town of men.
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>> 92 to 1. >> all jacked up on testosterone. >> yeah, it was miserable. every day was a plan on how to get out. >> with him? >> yeah, we wanted to leave the oil field, but he just saw so much opportunity and money. he was like one day we'll get there. >> doug carlile liked james and sarah's entrepreneurial style a lot. so when the chance to buy an oil lease came up they went in on it together. james kicked in $600,000. doug only $40,000. they needed $2 million, remember. yet, doug was saying he'd be taking over. there were disputes, then, over control and money and accusations flew. the facts doug's son said. >> he basically said i'm concerned with what james is going to try to do. >> that was serious. >> and he said that if anything happens to me, you know, it's james henrikson. >> but, like the other partners, james henrikson was far away
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when doug was killed, 700 miles away in wofford city, north dakota. detectives pinged his phone and confirmed it. and then something happened that seemed straight out of some detective novel. detective burbridge put out a plea for information from anybody who'd done business with doug carlile, and what do you know? in walked a guy who could have just as easily been a murder suspect himself. >> robert, thanks for coming down voluntarily. >> his name was robert delao. career criminal, gang member and sometimes a police informant. he served time in prison on manslaughter, drugs, weapon charges. >> i researched his criminal history and knew he had a very significant criminal history. was i concerned he was a hit-man or was he involved in this? >> he also knew
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doug carlile and james henrikson. why was he here? to tell the cops just in case they were wondering, that he didn't have anything to do with the murder. >> did you drive somebody up there? >> no, no, no, i had nothing to do with it, nothing. >> but burbridge had seen a thing or two. he pushed. >> we're going to start talking about some things honestly. and i'm going to have a heart to heart with you. >> okay. that's fine, that's fine. >> people tell me you are the shooter. >> i say hell no. you know that night i was in wofford city, north dakota. >> you went after him pretty hard, accused him of murder? >> i did. >> how did he respond to that? >> he denied it and didn't even flinch. >> did you think he was your guy? >> i did not think he was the guy. >> so why'd you do that? >> sometimes you do things, put them under pressure to see their reaction. and he did not flinch. >> the detectives asked delao to take a polygraph, and he did. did he pass the test? >> yes, he did. >> so curious, certainly, but a real lead? or a dead end? hard to know. so burbridge and his team of
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investigators kept working other leads. and christmas happened. sort of. >> it was really a rough christmas. i look back on pictures. we had smiles on our faces but there was -- you weren't really smiling. and my mom, it was so hard to watch her. she wanted to give the grandkids gifts but she was almost like a zombie. you can't just not have christmas, you know, but nobody felt like it. >> but grief wasn't all the family was feeling. the debilitating fear took hold, too. whoever killed their patriarch might not be done. >> we armed ourselves. i spent about $10,000 on a security camera system around the house. went out and bought an attack dog, german shepherd. >> meanwhile detectives hit the road and that's when they discovered something truly shocking. doug carlile wasn't the only victim of the weird goings on around the oil patch. coming up --
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for this investigator, a tantalizing tip at his finger tips. >> i clicked on it and a flyer came up that basically said beware of these two people. >> and then a potential suspect gives cops the brush off. >> he leaned over and slapped me on the shoulder and shut the door. >> when "dateline" continues. kim is now demonstrating her congestion.
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burbridge would need all the help he could get. and now every available investigator, nearly 20 of them, chased the scattered clues. did you actually need them all? >> yes, i kept them busy. one investigator, his whole job was to try to identify the white van. >> remember that white van the neighbors saw? >> it was unique enough. it was an after-factory extended van that they make for specific professions. once we were able to identify the make and model we had washington provide us with all the vans registered in spokane county, and there were 75 of them. >> which possibly fit that description. >> yes. >> every one of those vans had to be tracked down. and that welding glove, the one found outside a back gate, maybe the killer dropped it as he escaped or maybe it happened to be there. they swabbed it for dna anyway. they scoured social media, the internet, looking for connections, looking for anything. and then one night after christmas, a couple weeks after the murder. >> i was at my desk.
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i got a hit on what's called a ripoff report which i'd never heard of. and i clicked on it and a flyer came up that said beware of these people. >> what do you know, the ken and barbie of the oil field. >> it said they're known frauds. they're running fraud scams in north dakota. don't do any business. >> grievances were rife around that oil project in which doug and james and others were involved. the ripoff report was put out as a flyer in stores and businesses all around the oil patch. it was pay back, apparently. by one particularly disgruntled former partner. but then not everything was a boy scouts. james for example had a criminal record going back to his teens. anyway, when detective sesnick read the flyer, his islanded on the very curious detail.
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one of james' employees, a man named casey clark had up and disappeared. >> i printed it off and handed it to mark and said hey, what do you think about this? >> what did you think about that? >> it was the first time we had ever heard of that name. >> so who was casey clark? >> he was funny, well-mannered. >> didn't take long to find out. casey was an old friend of james henrikson. he moved to the oil patch specifically to work for henrikson at blackstone, james' trucking company. rick airy knew him well. >> so what did you do, the two of you? >> we'd go up to the bar and chase the girls. do the normal things guys do during the boom. >> rick and casey were field superintendents for the trucking company which sarah was helping to run. how were you involved with the business? >> i worked with the accountant, to make sure think got signed off to make sure they got paid and i was sort of the middleman for the paperwork. >> so you were really kind of a
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minor partner, if i could put it that way? >> it was the james show for sure. people saw me all the time. >> time off was rare. and eventually, rick airy and casey made secret plans to work for a rival trucking company. >> he was extremely worried about james finding out about their whole transition. >> on february 22nd, 2012, casey dropped briefly into black stone's headquarters and then was gone. so, did he leave in a huff? or was it something else? because nobody ever saw him again. >> no sign of him at all. he'd been missing for a year. >> had he been questioned about it. >> he took a polygraph with north dakota law enforcement. >> and had passed. >> yes. >> still, james henrikson had to know something about casey clark and doug carlile. and so the two detectives got in the car and drove 700 miles to wolford city, north dakota. >> with the wind chill, i believe it was 60 below when we
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were there. >> their destination, the home of james henrikson and his sarah. >> we went to the side door. from there you could see the garage. and in the garage was a two year old bentley, flat tires, laying on its belly. >> an almost new bentley. >> yes. >> obviously not taken care of at all. >> no. >> sarah answered the door, very pleasant said detectives, and went to get james. how did james henrikson greet you? did he tell you a story, sit you down for a cup of tea? what? >> he leaned out the door, slapped my on the shoulder and said too bad you drove all that way, my attorney told me not to talk to you and he shut the door. >> and you got nothing. >> got nothing. >> except for a rude reception which might have told you something? >> he was a big man, 5'10", 250 poinds of steroid and rock muscle. but i don't intimidate and grew werewolf fans when he reached out and tried to belittle me.
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>> nothing to do but suck it up and drive those 700 miles back home again empty-handed. in the meantime, sesnick got a blood clot that nearly killed him. a month after doug carlyle's murder they had suspects, oh, yes, but nothing was coming together. >> coming up, finally, a clue, and it's a big one. >> the very top of the paper is the word glove. and there's she'll get away route on google earth. >> what killer makes a to-do list? jackpot. >> jackpot. >> when dateline continues. jact >> when dateline continues but since they bought their new house... which menu am i looking at here? start with "ta-paz." -oh, it's tapas. -tapas.
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sesnick still recovering from a near fatal blood caught. >> i got ordered to go home but obviously i wasn't going anywhere. >> the case? well, they knew they had something but what exactly? >> it was just one of those cases where we knew we were on the right track, but we also knew that there was a lot of work left. >> and for the carliles, a lot of grief. elberta was a barely-functioning mess. >> i didn't lose just my dad. i lost my mom, too. because she wasn't the same person for a really long time. >> and adding insult, doug's secrets were exposed for the whole world to see. that big house on the south hill, heavily mortgaged. the fancy cars not paid for. the paperwork that claimed he was worth millions, a facade. doug carlile was flat broke. hadn't even bought life insurance. >> do you ever feel angry at all at doug for not providing more
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for like a insurance policy or something? >> no, not at all. because he was a very good provider every day he was alive. and i didn't believe in insurance policies like that. i believed in trusting the lord for our finances, and that's what we did. >> secrets, just another casualties, as the little army of detectives searched the neighborhood for clues, like for example the strange find that turned up in the killer's escape path. that weirdly out of place welding glove. they swabbed it for dna on the odd chance that something in or on that glove might match dna on a felon stored in a storage bank. and it did. timothy suckow. >> what did you think when you found this out? >> i thought this could be our guy. >> was he local?
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>> he was local. >> he was working at irs environmental, an asbestos removal company. >> they don't drive around in white vans by any chance? >> i checked that list, and lo and behold, they owned a vehicle that matched our vehicle in the video. >> well, well, well, what were the chances? timothy suckow must have been the muscular man in black seen in this video running for dear life toward the equally mysterious white van. they looked him up. he lived in the suburbs. a wife, kids, his house was ten miles from the murder scene. >> we had the s.w.a.t. team waiting because we didn't want to take him at his house. potential of firearms. >> but when suckow and another man left the house police moved in. police photographed suckow's many tattoos. >> mr. suckow is a hardened
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individual, very large man, 275 pounds of solid muscle. >> the interview began, detectives made no bones about it. they thought they had suckow dead to rights. >> today is the day to help yourself out. i didn't come to you by accident, okay? my killer left something up at the house, and your dna is all over it. no joke. the van at your work that you drive is on my video up there. >> you're scaring me now. >> you should be scared. you're looking at federal conspiracies to commit murder, fraud, life in prison. >> [ bleep ]. [ bleep ]. >> yeah. i need a lawyer before we even do anything? >> that's your choice. >> these are serious accusations. >> at this point, we're probably beyond accusations. you are under arrest. and you can help yourself out.
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>> i'm not kidding you about having your dna. >> i'm not kidding you either, man. >> i have your dna up there, man. >> [ bleep ]. >> timothy suckow was done talking. and -- >> he just looked me in the eye, laid his head down and went to sleep. >> seriously? >> seriously. it was like a big emotional release for him it was over. >> they rounded up search warrants for suckow's house and car. >> in his car we found a very significant piece of evidence. >> what was that? >> a piece of notebook paper with a list of items to be done. at the very top of the paper is the word glove with a question mark. and there's statements about wheel man and wing man. show get away route on google earth, practice with pistol. >> that's almost like a confession right on a notepad. what killer makes a to-do list? >> it was a to-do list on how to
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go do this murder. >> what did you think when you saw that? >> it was almost hollywood like. >> it was a month after the murder and we arrest what we think is the shooter and he has a to-do kill list in his car. you can't make this stuff up. >> suckow also had a storage unit. where? a surveillance camera picked up a white van pulling up soon after the murder. suckow had to be their shooter. question was, who put him up to it? and why? suckow wouldn't tell them. refused to say a word. so then they got a search warrant for his phone. >> his contact list said james in nd. >> jackpot. >> jackpot. that is what the first time we had ever connected him with henrikson. >> james and sarah arrived to
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become the ken and barbie of the oil patch and before long one man is missing and another dead and the suspected hit man has james on speed dial. and as for sarah, there was a shock in store for her too. >> emotionally you have a lot to deal with. >> oh, absolutely. it's ruined my life. >> coming up. sarah becomes suspicious about her husband. >> did you think at the time, i wonder if james had something to do with this? >> it seemed fishy to me. >> then she gets a call from the sheriff. >> he said you need to come to my office right this second. >> when "dateline" continues.. these are real people, not actors, who've got their eczema under control. with less eczema, you can show more skin. so roll up those sleeves. and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. dupixent is the first treatment of its kind that continuously treats moderate-to-severe eczema,
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i'm dara brown with the hours top stories. investigators from the house intelligence committee are poised to testify before the house judiciary committee on monday as part of the impeachment inquiry into president trump. the white house declined an invitation to participate in the hearing. and former vice president joe biden sat down tw axios for a wide ranging interview on sunday. the 2020 hopeful defended his son's work for the ukrainian gas
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company telling allen, quote, i trust my son. now back to "dateline." sometimes the best detective is named luck. a drop welding glove lead to a hit man timothy suckow, whose phone had the number of a man who may have ordered the murder. investigators were now able to rule out all of doug's business partners in washington state. >> i thought we had a pretty good idea of what had actually been going on, but it turned out to be a lot more. >> a sentiment, which, as the investigation turned rapidly back to north dakota, sarah, a-k-a mrs. james henrikson could have put in the same words but for more personal reasons.
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>> best i remember is there was rumors of james having an affair. >> it's an old story, of course. husband cheats on wife with a younger woman. even younger than sarah, who was only in her 20s. >> what was it like to hear that he was cheating on you in the first place? >> it was hurtful, but it was so off the wall. i just didn't believe it. >> like generations of wives before her, until the truth was impossible to avoid. what was that like to hear? >> horrific. especially when i found out with who. i just thought absolutely not. no way. >> wouldn't believe it. >> wouldn't believe it. she was like my little sister. >> this is her. the young woman in the unpleasant little triangle. but she wasn't just some other woman. this is peyton martin, daughter of tex hall, the chief of the mha nation on whose tribal land was the oil lease, the one james and doug carlile wanted so
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badly. peyton was 19. >> you knew her. >> mm-hm. yeah. i had a vacation, family vacation with her. >> in fact, here they are in hawaii. james in the water. sarah there on the paddleboard and there on another board was peyton. >> i think i found a picture of her on facebook where she was pregnant. and so i called her and asked her. and she said it's none of my business, but if it's my husband's then get over it. mm-hm. >> peyton denied saying that, by the way. but when the baby was born, a very healthy and happy-looking little boy. james and peyton named him -- >> bentley, of all things. >> bentley. just like that expensive automobile james bought for sarah, then left in the garage with flattened tires. >> you can't make it up. >> it's weird. it's so strange.
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>> bentley. >> yeah. as you can see, he was the one who wanted the car and the name and the show. >> chief tex h he banished james from the reservation. but there was something neither tex nor sarah knew just then. not just that the spokane cops were investigating sarah's wayward husband. out on the north dakota prairie, another lawman had been ki around for more than a year. homeland security agent derrick truedell had heard from a colleague about the missing casey clark and the ripoff report and other possible crimes. >> he told me the story, and it sounded unbelievable is what it did. >> eric truedell was hooked. so by the time burbridge started showing up, he could tell them a thing or two about james
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henrikson. describe him. >> he comes across as just -- >> you're at a loss for words. >> he comes across as a used car salesman, but that's not fair to used car sales men. the guy is just, he's a scumbag. >> he had been on james' trail for more than a year, looking for possible illegal drug imports and the mysterious disappearance of casey clark. it began to look like henrikson was behaving like some latter day wild west outlaw. >> he's a sociopath and a coward. and he didn't get his hands dirty in any of it. ik truedell already suspected then doug carlile was murdered in washington and he began working with burbridge. if suckow killed carlile, could he have killed casey clark as well?
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>> they checked mr. suckow's number at the time against the phone records they acquired back when mr. clark disappeared and mr. suckow's number was in those records. >> meaning suckow was in the area when casey clark disappeared. sarah meanwhile whose marriage was falling apart had begun to harbor suspicions about james and not just his cheatin' ways. it went back to the day james told her about doug carlile's death. >> he just walked into the room and was like, doug's dead, straight-faced, nothing. it was the strangest thing ever. >> did you think at the time, i wonder if james had something to do with this? >> it seemed fishy, it did. but again, your life's already crumbling. you don't want to think that your husband could be doing anything like that. >> why didn't you get out of that marriage? >> i was scared of him.
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so. everyone wants the fairy tale. everyone wants to be married with a life and kids and it came crashing quickly. >> so finally, sarah started talking about divorce. >> i told him and he'd be like, how are you going to feel if you divorce me and find out all this isn't true and the kid's not mine. you'll be a horrible person and i'm going to destroy you and he was very threatening. >> was he serious? a month after the murder of doug carlile, january 2014, sarah got a call from her local sheriff. >> he said you need to come to my office right this second. >> coming up. sarah gets some frightening news. >> homeland security was waiting for me. and they were like, your husband is trying to have you killed today. >> what was that moment like for you? >> doesn't seem real. it's like a movie. >> when "dateline" continues. els
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sarah didn't know which way to turn. with investigators in two states closing in, her husband, james had vanished. their marriage was on life support, and she'd just been summoned by her county sheriff. >> so i went into his office and homeland security was waiting for me. and they were like, sit down, we need to talk to you. and they said we just received in the last ten minutes that your husband is trying to have you killed today. >> sarah? on a hit list? why? sarah had a pretty good idea. >> they wanted all the money. and he knew i had it locked up with the divorce getting ready. so get her out of the way and we'll get all the assets. so he could run to brazil.
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>> but sarah marked for death? yes, the sheriff told her, she was supposed to die that very day. >> what was that moment like for you? >> i can't even describe it. doesn't seem real. it's like a movie. i sat there and spoke with them all day. and i'd asked, can i call someone? like, i don't know what to do. they said nope. we have to take you into a safe home. >> call no one? >> hm-mm. >> not even your mom? >> no, no one. because they were afraid james would harass my family and friends to find my location, once he realized i wasn't responding to him i went into panic mode. he didn't know if i was working with the police, if i was dead, if i was on the run. >> the cops knew her husband was lurking somewhere out there. but they couldn't find him. >> he was harassing a lot of my friends and family, trying to see if they'd heard from me, which they hadn't. >> now the cops were sarah's best hopes to stay alive. they tried a ruse to throw him
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off the scent. >> they drove me to the border in canada to make it look like i had jumped the border to see if james would chase me. >> he did not. but where was he? no one seemed to know. with sarah close enough so they could actually see her, investigators tried to track her husband's phone. >> you're sitting in a homeland security office and listening to them ping him across the state. he's on the run, he's on the move. a car backfired in the parking lot and all these agents pull their guns out and run to the windows, because they didn't know if james was in town. it's a surreal thing. >> even if they found him, though, they couldn't charge him with murder or conspiracy. didn't have enough evidence for that. but they did have something quite useful. a few days earlier, a search warrant enhanced federal and state agents descended on james and sarah's empty house while they were out of town.
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what did you find in the house? >> found a lot of financial records. found some firearms. >> some firearms? >> yeah. i can't remember the exact number. >> it didn't matter if there was one there, he was a convicted felon, right? >> right. >> grounds for immediate arrest. agents fanned out around north dakota. and a few days later, in a little place called mandan, there he was. >> what was he doing? >> he was over at his girlfriend's friend's apartment. >> that is the apartment of a friend of peyton. the chief's daughter. >> we had guys stake out around it, doing surveillance on it.
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as we drove by, i recognized him. and i knew that was him. >> on the street. >> we hopped out, told him to show us his hands. >> he was surrounded by cops, guns drawn and pointed. so what happened then was very odd. >> he had his hands in his pockets. kept telling him to show me his hands. he had this stupid smirk on his face. we helped him to the ground. he's smiling up at me and asked me, you know, hey, how are you? he instantly went into like trying to charm us. >> trying to pull a con on the cop. >> yeah, like he was going to build rapport and we were going to be buddies? >> bizarre though the arrest was, james henrikson was in custody. sarah, no choice, had to stay in deep cover, hiding in a secret shelter. unable to call friends or even her parents just in case the hit was still a go. >> i had a bunch of friends call the sheriff and the police, and they were asking, they said we think he's had her killed.
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we drive around looking in ditches, because no one was allowed to know. they wanted him to think that it had gone through to see what he would do. >> can't imagine what it would be like for your family. >> it was hard for them. >> and james agreed very civilized, to talk to investigators, but what he did not do. [ laughter ] >> [ bleep ]. >> was tell them the real story of what he'd been up to. >> the mexican mafia and drug car tell. >> he gave us, to me, it was a story. he talked about the cartels. the triad, all these organized crime groups that he implied having connections to.
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>> did he think you were buying it? >> oh, i think in his mind he thought we were buying it. but it was so outlandish, nobody's going to believe that. >> trouble was, investigators in north dakota and spokane still didn't have enough solid evidence to tie james henrikson to the murders of carlile and clark. for that they'd have to keep digging while henricson waited in jail. that is if they could keep him there while he had other ideas. coming up -- preparing for the great escape. >> they knocked out that window, dropped some bed sheets to the ground, nine stories. >> oh, my god. when "dateline" continues. line". [upbeat music] no matter how much you clean, does your house still smell stuffy? that's because your home is filled with soft surfaces that trap odors and release them back into the room. so, try febreze fabric refresher
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criminal, rarely seeming to get his illegal schemes to work. >> it's almost like a tragic comedy when you see the group of people that were involved with this case. >> they put out a hit on another business partner, but the hit man ran off with the money. >> the guy rips him off of $10,000, and as he said that was the easiest $10,000 he ever made. >> gradually, agent truedell and burbridge and sesnick amassed circumstantial evidence to show henrikson for all his criminal fumbling did orchestrate two murders, casey clark and doug carlile. but it was not quite enough circumstantial evidence to take to trial. till finally, the break they needed. timothy suckow, remember him? admitted he killed both victims on orders from james henrikson,
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and the middleman caved, too. robert delao. the man who came snooping around a couple days after the carlile murder and passed a polygraph. now deleo admitted he recruited suckow and transmitted henrikson's orders and the money. so september 2014, nine months after his arrest on weapons charges, james henrikson was flown from north dakota to spokane, washington and charged with multiple counts of conspiracy, solicitation and murder for hire in the deaths of casey clark and doug carlile, and attempts on the lives of three more business partners. he was not charged, however, with trying to kill his wife sarah, because, said the prosecutors, they went with the charges that were easiest to prove. so henrikson was toast, unless?
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as he sat in the spokane jail awaiting trial, henrikson did his best to see that the trial would never happen. >> he tried to hire people to attack the marshal man that was transporting him between our jail and the u.s. courtroom. shoot the driver, set fire to the van and break him out the back while the van's on fire. >> good, lord. >> he was still letting on that he had a lot of money. and in jail obviously, it doesn't take too long to find people that will bite on that. unfortunately he found one that also needed help with his current charges, so he turned him in pretty quickly. >> thus the plan was foiled. >> yes. >> but henrikson wasn't done. >> he was in another cell with a person suspected of murder. there are windows in each of the cells. they knocked out that window, dropped some tied-together bed sheets down to the ground nine stories. >> oh, my lord. >> some people showing up for
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work saw it hanging out the window. >> can you squeeze someone out the window? >> they're purposely designed so an adult human head can't get out the window. >> they could have charged him for escape attempts. they didn't. the prosecutor had bigger things to do. and finally, january 2016 james henrikson encountered them. >> i was so mad i couldn't see straight. >> the still-grieving family. >> i had to close my eyes several times and say a prayer for god to calm me down. i wanted to put my hands on him for sure. >> then you'd be in trouble. >> it'd be worth it. >> they were however, not exactly confident about their case. >> proving casey clark's murder was the toughest part that i was thinking of. we didn't have a body. we had no forensic evidence. >> so, to get a conviction, they'd need these two sketchy characters, who allegedly on orders from henrikson had done
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some truly awful things. if they didn't tell the story and make the jury believe it, henrikson would get away with murder. but if they did tell it? what sort of credibility would a person like that have? >> my concerns our most important witness is going to admit that he killed two people, literally beat casey clark's brains out. >> how do you handle that? >> you have to embrace it. our number two witness has a tattoo on his back of him urinating on the headstone of the last guy that he killed. these are our two star witnesses. >> still, tim suckow, the actual killer was by far the more important witness. after all, suckow could tell the jury chapter and verse about the many twisted and homicidal plots set in motion by james henrikson. so, two nights before the trial was to begin, attorneys jones
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and ahmed went to see suckow, to prepare him for his testimony. and that's where it all went south. suckow is bipolar. >> he was laying down on the floor of the prison cell in a fetal position. so this is two days before our star witness is going to testify. and he's basically sucking his thumb on the floor of a jail cell. we're there at 10:00 at night, trying to make sure this guy gets his medication so he can effectively testify before a jury. >> would james henrikson, the desperado of the oil patch go free? coming up, the entire courtroom stunned. >> i had decided long before then james henrikson was crazy. i didn't know he was that kind of crazy. >> when "dateline" continues. els
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people. he was off his meds. he was a mess emotionally. so when the trial began in federal court, no cameras allowed, the prosecutors held their breath, and suckow, back on his meds came through. and in court he repeated just what he said here in his pretrial interviews, that he met delao and they both worked for the company that owned the white van they drove on the night he shot doug carlile, but the year before that job, delao told him he could make money for roughing up some guy in north dakota. but then the boss, james henrikson changed the plan. so when casey showed up at james' office before going on vacation, suckow was behind the
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door with a heavy truck jack. >> he stumbled and fell. he tried to get up. i hit him three or four more times and he stopped moving. >> they ditched casey's truck in a nearby town said suckow, and then they took casey's body to a lonely spot 20 miles out of town. he did the digging while henrikson stood nearby. >> and he was standing in the hole and he was saying something like how much is this going to cost me and i said $1,000. $1,000
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>> anyway, he said he got the $20,000 and he burned the bloody clothes. investigators found buttons and other evidence of that burn pile. but though they took suckow to the prairie twice to look for the burial site, they never found casey clark's body. >> casey clark was simply killed for the reason that he just wanted to leave james henrikson's employment. >> he felt wrong. >> so he was going to kill him? >> it was like a jealousy, cheating spouse kind of thing. >> and why according to the prosecutors did james henrikson want doug carlile killed? >> he really felt that the oil deal they were involved with was worth tens of millions of dollars, and he thought that doug carlile was standing in the
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way of him getting most, the large share of those tens of millions of dollars. >> mr. carlile had already threatened mr. henrikson that he was going to get him out of the oil drilling business. >> and that was the thing that triggered this whole business? >> yeah, they were each trying to get each other out of the deal. >> at the trial, prosecutors introduced hundreds of text messages, an almost play by play account as the plan rolled out. >> you can watch a text message go from henrikson to delao and then the content is passed from delao to suckow and back the other way. negotiations over payment, who's going to be there, an alarm system. >> though, when doug carlile returned from church that evening in december, suckow was waiting. he brought a heavy welding glove in case he had to punch in a window. he didn't have to.
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and then somehow the welding glove got left behind. the glove that revealed suckow's dna and broke the case. >> without the glove we would probably be unsolved to this day. >> and what happened then? james henrikson was a very dangerous man, was actively planning more murders. eventually, they said, had suckow not lost his welding glove, henrikson might have become that worst of all criminals. >> a serial killer is someone who causes the death or murder
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of three people. and he got an a for effort, because he tried. there were about 11 people that we know of that he tried to have murdered. >> james henrikson's attorneys declined our request for interview, but they blamed suckow and delao and said the jury should not believe such unsavory characters. elberta watched the trial play out. >> i prayed for justice for my husband, that the truth would come out and that there would be a way to go on in life. >> deliberations took less than a day. on all 11 counts, murder for hire, solicitation, conspiracy and more, the jury found james henrikson guilty. >> we wanted to jump up and down and clap, you know, as a family, because our whole family was there. >> it was great.
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>> in the weeks that followed, robert delao, the go-between, was sentenced to 22 years in prison. when timothy suckow, the hit man, faced the judge. >> the only thing he ever asked for was that we do what we can to ensure that he was sent to a prison with appropriate mental health facilities so he could figure out what was wrong with him. >> then, in court, he turned around and faced elberta. >> said please forgive me. i'm so sorry for what i've done. >> did he seem genuine? >> he did. he said it in tears, and he said i can't forgive myself, but can you forgive me? and i, i told home yes. i said i forgive you. and god forgives you. >> 30 years for tim suckow. when it was james henrikson's turn, a ripple ran through the court. would he, too, ask forgiveness, admit guilt? apologize? reveal the location of casey clark's body? well, no. not a chance. >> he read a short story that
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was very graphic about abortion. so much so that everybody in the courtroom was very uncomfortable with what he was saying. and i think he just did that to purposely upset people. >> i had decided long before then that james henrikson was crazy. i didn't know he was that kind of crazy. >> henrikson will leave prison only in a box, having received two consecutive life sentences. he's chosen not to appeal. and here in the vast north dakota grass lands, casey clark's friends and family are still searching, vowing to stay with it until they find him. >> i just want to like, all right, james, you son of a -- we're going to get some closure for everybody here. >> and elberta? >> sometimes grief overwhelms me. i'm in a pile of tears, and i've not lived alone ever. >> takes some figuring out. >> it takes figuring out.
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>> sarah, thoroughly investigated, was held blameless, not involved in james' violent conspiracies. but in the community and among some in law enforcement, suspicion lingers. in june 2017, she pleaded guilty to conspiracy to commit mail fraud. sarah was sentenced to three years of probation and ordered to pay over $340,000 in restitution. >> so, as you look at all these events, and you think, gosh, what sin did i commit to be in this spot. what would you say? >> i trusted a con artist. i trusted a sociopath. since i married the monster some people think i should be one, too, but i'm not. >> wreckage, lots of it. once upon a time, in a flat and gracious land, where tough men wrestle for oil, murderous
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ambition bubbled up with the crude and made a play as old as human kind. what was it all about, really? why? >> greed. plain and simple. it came down to greed. all about money. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline." >> they said we need you to get in the car with us. they zip tied my arms and zip tied my legs, duct tape my hair. there's no words. i'm sitting there, just hysterical. it's terrifying. >> she thought he was mr. right -- a confident, handsome surgeon. until the good doctor seemed to turn sinister. >> he put his hands over my face and said, "go ahead and try to leave." i didn't know where else to go. >> i mean, she just broke down she looked afraid. >> taunts. threats. ,
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