anamesake he never got to meet. ben. >> that's it for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. hing good morning, i'm dara brown in new york at msnbc world headquarters. it is 6:00 in the east. 3:00 out west. here is what is happening. the next battle begins, an historic impeachment vote, an unexpected senate trial, that could raise and escalate to partisan conflict. >> with every democrat voting yes. >> aye. >> ms. garcia. >> aye. >> every republican voting no. >> mr. jordan? >> no. >> mr. jordan votes no. >> it is a witch hunt. it's a sham. it's a hoax. >> fallout from the vote, and new questions on how many democrats may end up votes against the articles of

impeachment, and why, a closer look at that, next. boycott, a labor dispute intends to put a stop in the next democratic debate, the big question will any candidates cross the picket line. michelle obama and melania trump are both responding now after the president took to twitter to attack climate activist greta thunberg. the supreme court source price. the justices agree to tackle three big cases involving president trump's tax returns and their final decision may send a ripple through the 2020 race. developing this hour, articles of impeachment officially moving forward on capitol hill. as the inquiry moves into day 82. the two articles, abuse of power and obstruction of congress, passed along party lines in the house judiciary committee, with 23 yes votes and 17 no votes. next, those articles move to the full house for a vote, and that's expected to happen wednesday. house democrats argue impeachment is necessary to preserve our democracy.

>> if we let the president of the united states cheat in this election, by dragging a foreign power in here to help him win, we will lose our democracy. we will have a dictatorship. we will have a monarchy. we will not have a democracy. so this is about preserving what made this country so great and so strong in the world. >> and expected to move on to the senate in january for trial, where majority leader mitch mcconnell said he would coordinate with the white house, which brought this rebuke from at least one house democrat. >> i think that the american people are smart and i hope they will look at the facts, and i hope they make their decision and call their representative, call their senator, to tell them that they want a fair trial in the senate. not a fixed trial where the foreman of the jury, mitch mcconnell, the guy who decides all the rules, is actually going to coordinate with the defendant. that makes no sense whatsoever. it is an outrage. and frankly, it's a tremendous

disrespect to the constitution and to our framers. >> meanwhile president trump continues to defend his perfect call with the ukrainian president, as democratic senators debate how to proet proceed with the trial next year. >> are you assuring that the process in the senate -- >> i can do, i'll do whatever i want. look, we did nothing wrong. so i'll do long or short. i wouldn't mind a long process. because i'd like to see the whistle-blower who is a fraud. we are dealing with a lot of corrupt people. there was nothing done wrong. to use the power of impeachment on this nonsense is an embarrassment to this country. >> nbc white house correspondent kelly o'donnell joins us now with the latest and good morning to you. what was the president is saying on this? >> good morning, dara. clearly, the president is frustrated. and we're beginning to learn a bit more about how they are viewing the likely potential of a senate trial.

after there is a house vote this week. and as you outlined it, expected based on party dominance of democrats that the president would be voted, he would be voted, for those articles of impeachment, on wednesday, as the schedule holds now. so from the white house, there is this sense of frustration, that the president has not been able to get his story out. and at the same time, there is now kind of an emerging conflict coming from democrats who say they don't believe a senate process will be fair. fair trial is what the white house has been saying for these many weeks that we've been dealing with this. but to give you a sense of how the president responded, not long after the votes in the committee were cast, here he was in the oval office, with the leader of paraguay and what would typically be the kind of international moment for the president, greeting a world leader, and instead, he laid out a lot of his frustration, and some of his expectations for what comes next. here's the president. >> it's a witch hunt. it's a sham.

it's a hoax. nothing was done wrong. zero was done wrong. some day, there will be a democrat president and there will be a republican house, and i suspect they are going to remember it. my poll numbers as you know have gone through the roof. fundraising for the republican party has gone through the roof. we're setting records. nobody has ever seen anything like it. >> reporter: and some campaign officials talk about what they are seeing, based on impeachment, among their supporters. seeing more fundraising, they claim. also more energy. and more willingness to volunteer. that's according to the campaign. at the same time, very clearly, the white house does not like impeachment, does not want that asterisk against the name of the president for the future. we're also learning a bit more about some of the plans for how the mechanics of a senate trial would work. at this point, advisers are saying white house counsel pat cipollone would be running the

defense but that might be just part of a team that the president might include additional lawyers who would be there on his behalf, in a senate trial. mitch mcconnell, who is back in kentucky, over the last couple of days, to file for his own re-election says that he expects that it will be, beginning in january, that all of the senator, including those running for president, must be present, and in their seats, throughout the trial, and he said many of those senators would of course prefer to be in iowa or new hampshire but there's still some distance to go before we get to the actual impeachment. dara? >> kelly o'donnell, thank you so much for that. joining me now is dave leven thal editor at large at the center for public integrity and how much do you think that the president realizes that this vote and what happens next week in the house may be the first line in his presidential biography? >> it very well might be. and very well could be. if the situation is such where the president at once is using this as an opportunity to do what he has done ever since he

became president, which is attack democrats, promote himself, and out of the jaws of what seems to be a very bad situation, and pull out great opportunity, embolden his supporters, and point an arrow directly toward the 2020 re-election. at the same time too, we saw last week, especially based on the dozens up into the hundreds of tweets and re-tweets he was making that this had an effect on him, it had a profound effect on him and will continue to do so during what is going to be at least a somewhat predictable process with the house almost certainly going to impeach him, but one that is very fluid in the sense that a lot can still happen between now and the time the senate trial begins likely sometime in january. >> and with all of the concern, they're facing a dilemma ahead of the likely impeachment trial, call on president trump's witness, and make it a long process, or quickly vote on the articles and pass up further testimony. so what are the points for republicans, and what do democrats perceive as better for their case?

>> the republicans really do have the path here, the short path where we get this over and done with, donald trump is able to declare victory, and we move on towards the 2020 re-election for donald trump. at the same time, too, if you have a process that is too short, it can backfire. it can backfire in the sense that there are going to be few witnesses if any called, there's questions about whether mitch mcconnell is effectively in cahoots with the white house, to the point where he would be violating the oath that he would be taking, to be impartial, and other senators, too, so definitely, there is some risk for republicans. there is also risk for democrat, of course, too, by virtue of them going forward with this impeachment process in the first place. you must remember, of course, that nancy pelosi, democratic leaders in the house, didn't want to go this path. it took a long time for them to get there. because they thought that this was going to have a great deal of political risk for them. well, impeachment by definition is a political process. there is going to be political risk. so both sides right now are

probably a little bit on edge, certainly on edge, as we go into really what is going to be the final phase of this, where the game really is in play. >> if mitch mcconnell does decide to call president trump's witnesses which would most likely include the whistle-blower, what do you think we could expect to learn from a full-blown trial? >> we are going to have first of all, a heck of a lot of drama, which has been the case of course for the past couple of weeks. at the same time, too, it is difficult to predict exactly what would come out, that hasn't already come out at this point. there have been dozens and dozens of hours of testimony, the public testimony that we've just had, and behind closed doors testimony, written testimony, so hey, something can always come up. in fact, we just got documents at the center for public integrity on thursday that were conversations between the department of defense officials, and office of management and budget officials, talking about the ukraine situation, talking about donald trump, and so yes,

more could come out, but at the same time, too we almost certainly know where this is going to end, and that's going to end with the acquittal of donald trump in the senate trial. the republicans control the senate. you need a super majority to kick the president out of office. this president or any, and the numbers simply aren't there, barring something so unexpected and monumental which would cause the republicans to change their vote which none of them at this point seem likely to do. >> talk about that, before the senate trial, the full house votes on wednesday, and the democrats could hit a snag there with representatives from trump's leading districts and right now 17 say they will vote to impeach and eight undecided and one confirmed he is voting no. so there are still more several more that have not confirmed. what do you make of those numbers? >> you may have a couple of democrats who decide to either sit it out, not cast a vote, or even vote against one or two of the articles of impeachment. also, important to remember, that you might have some people who split their vote.

you saw this with bill clinton in fact, where you had some members of congress who voted for one article of impeachment, but didn't vote for another article of impeachment. i wouldn't be shocked if we saw that at least with a few democrats, particularly those who might be facing a very difficult re-election, who might be in a swing district, or even one in a republican district, despite it being a republican district. so there are going to be certain political considerations at that level, also taken into consideration as well, dara. >> that is an interesting point you bring up. house republicans are trying to pressure those undecided democrats hoping to convince them to vote no. do you think this could be a real problem for wednesday's vote? >> not really. the situation really seems to be solid for democrats. if anyone thinks that impeachment is not going to happen, they probably haven't been paying attention too closely. this is more or less a done deal. as the old addage goes, all over but the shouting and there is going to be a heck of a lot of shouting next week. you can bet on that triply.

>> and we will all be watching. absolutely tuned in for that. dave, thank you very much for joining us this morning. great to have you. >> thank you. well, overseas now, indeed this morning, new zealand police confirming another person has died, following an eruption at the white island volcano in that country bringing the official death toll to 15. this as divers resume their search for two victims not yet recovered. the bodies of six other victims have been found on the island. joining us is janice, who is in coastal new zealand near white island and janice, tell us, what is the latest there? >> reporter: well, this is a high stakes mission, dara, to try to retrieve what they knew were eight bodies that were on the island, since the eruption on monday. the conditions there are horrible. the air is toxic. the temperatures are scorching. and there was the threat that it would erupt again. so teams were wearing protective suits. they had breathing devices. they went there yesterday.

they recovered six bodies near, about a thousand feet near the crater of the volcano. but a ground search failed to turn up the other two. so that is why it is believed they may be in the water. and that has dive teams out there today, and the conditions in the water, no better. they had about a two meter visibility. but the water was contaminated. the divers came back reporting that they saw sea life that was dead, dead fish, dead eels, so these conditions proving very challenging for authorities. but they are determined to make sure that they bring every victim back. identifying the people has been extremely difficult here, because of the severity of the burns. when the volcano exploded, it sprayed debris and scalding water. the vast majority of the people who remain in hospital, about 25 people, are in serious to

critical condition. surgeons here have been working around the clock, trying to treat these burns, and ordering a supply of human skin from the united states, they need it for grafting, this immediate it for dressing the wounds, they need it for dressing the wounds so they can get these people in a position to eventually be flown home. there were 47 tourists on the island that day. nine of them american. the death toll is edging higher. and a lot of people asking why were people on the island in the first place. it is an active volcano. and the alert level had been raised. but officials and the country's prime minister here saying that those are questions to be addressed at another time. right now, everything is focused on finding some closure for people, and also giving those who need it the very best care. dara? >> janice, live for us from new zealand, thank you very much. well, the decision at the highest court, decides whether president trump can keep his

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i'll release them when it is completed. i've had audit for 15 or 16 years. >> while i'm under audit, i won't do it. if i'm not under audit, i would do it. i have no problem with it. but while i'm under audit i would not give my taxes, there is no law whatsoever. >> that is up to whoever handles it. i don't know, hey, i'm under

audit. but that's up to whoever it is. from what i understand, the law is 100% on my side. >> president trump has tried to keep his financial footprint hidden for years and now the supreme court has agreed to take on his appeal to the lower court's orders on three different cases requiring his banks to turn over his financial records. joining me now is msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos, good morning to you. >> good morning. >> so take us through these cases, please. >> these are three separate cases. but they're all seeking the same thing. they're essentially seeking by way of subpoena, congressional subpoena or otherwise, grand jury subpoena, documents from president trump's financial companies. majors, accounting, what have you and president trump is fighting it, saying it lacks any legitimate legislative purpose, and those are the magic words for congress to be able to subpoena documents. and what is any legitimate legislative purpose? it is virtually anything that congress can legislate on. even past crimes.

each though congress is not in charge of enforcing the law, enforcing criminal law, it can investigate past crimes, if it relates to future legislative work. and that is the uphill battle that trump faces, almost on all fronts. whether or not a congressional subpoena or a grand jury subpoena can reach not the president, because there is an argument that the president may be immune from all, from process, but even that is a stretch. it seems like a much easier case that congressional subpoenas and grand jury subpoenas can reach private companies associated with the president. >> and danny, six different lower courts have considered these cases for trump's financial records, have ruled against the president. so what are the implications here now that the supreme court is jumping into this political issue? have they ever taken a case like this? >> even though at each level of review, that court starts over, when it comes to interpreting issues of law, so it is in a sense a do-over. the fact that trump has lost at each and every level, the

district court, the appeals court is, a strong indicator that the supreme court might rule in the same thing. in fact, normally, that's a strong indicator that the supreme court won't each taven the case. they will say there is nothing to resolve here, one party has lost at every level, we'll leave the lower court, the appellate court ruling in tact and decline certiorari, we're decline hearing this case, because there doesn't seem to be an issue of law that requires supreme court review. >> they did take the case, and the president's attorney applauded the decision to hear. it how strong of a legal case do they have? or is team trump just looking to delay? >> trump is counting on the fact that he feels like he has a supreme court that is favorable to him, unlike the lower courts, and in a sense, he has already appointed two supreme court justices, and in his mind, he may think that these are justices that would be loyal to him. but at least in terms of a justice like gorsuch, he is a

strong text ulist and he will look closely at the law itself and not necessarily be partisan and that is the idea behind the supreme court, no matter who appoints you, you're not supposed partisan but then again some justices in the past have been accused of dancing with the partner that brung them, the president. >> an argument there set for march. how long will a decision take? and if they rule against the president, will they then become public? >> yes, of course. all supreme court opinions are publicly issued. in fact, people like me and other supreme court wonks wait around them to be released because we're so curious as to what the high court's decisions are on these cases of importance. so yes, the public will be able to see the opinion, likely not the records, even if they order the disclosure of the record, because they are going to go directly to either a grand jury or to congress. >> danny cevallos, thanks for breaking that down for us. good to have you on this saturday morning. well, new reaction today from the white house, defending the first lady melania trump's

silence about the president's mocking of greta thunberg. the president attacked the 16-year-old climate activist on twitter after she was named "time" magazine's person of the year. >> greta thunberg making a call for action, in italy. >> they will have to do their job, and to protect our future. >> the 16-year-old taking little time to savor being named "time" magazine's youngest ever person of the year. >> president trump one of five finalists, bashing the decision, tweeting, greta must work on her anger management problem and then go to a good old-fashioned movie with a friend. chill, greta, chill. >> thunberg, on the autism spectrum, calling it her super power has been attacked by trump before using the president's own words in her twitter bio, a flood of support including from michelle obama. don't let anyone dim your light, ignore the doubters and know that millions of people are cheering you on.

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now to the morning headlines. breaking overnight, to north korea, it says it successfully performed another crucial test at its long range rocket site. the nation's state run media reported the test further strengthens north korea's reliable systems of nuclear deterrence. the launch comes as kim jong-un resumes pressure of the trump administration over an end of the year deadline to salvage nuclear negotiations. new york city police are looking for a third suspect this morning, in the stabbing death of a college student. a 13-year-old was charged friday in connection with the murder of 18-year-old. a barnard college freshman from virginia. one attacker was bitten in the finger as she was attacked. police questioned a 14-year-old as well but that teen was not charged. the fbi is searching for a

white van this morning, in connection with a mass shooting in jersey city. the man is believed to be related to one of the at the time dead suspects a candlelight vigil was held outside jersey city hall friday in honor of the detective and three civilians killed on tuesday. law enforcement officials say the attack is being investigated as a potential act of domestic terrorism fueled by anti-semitism and antilaw enforcement police. now, to con tenders 2020. in just 51 days away from the official start of the 2020 election. and a still crowded field of democratic candidates, traveling the country this weekend, many in pittsburgh, for a presidential forum. and others hitting iowa, south carolina, and arizona. joining me now is daniel, senior political editor for "the guardian." good morning to you, daniel. >> good morning. >> the next democratic debate is set for thursday in los angeles but there might not be candidates on stage, all seven

who qualify say they will boycott the debate over a loyola marymount university dispute what do you think will happen on thursday? >> that's a good question. you can't have a debate for any candidates who do the debating but at the same time, i really doubt at the end of the day we won't have any of the democratic contenders on stage. there is a strong incentive among this democratic primary field to show up for debate. simply because every time a candidate has a good debate performance, they see their polling, they see their fundraising improve and there are too many candidates in the field right mow for every candidate or at least the ones who qualified for this debate to pass up an opportunity that they can gain grupd by going to this debate. >> and what is the debate about? is it strong enough to keep them off the stage? >> it is hard to tell right now. i don't get a sense that this

dispute is really going to keep them from coming on the stage right now. simply because in the past, and really throughout this entire cycle, we have seen democrats and democratic candidates say they're not going to debate, they're going to boycott it for an issue, or some kind of stand, and we saw this in 2016, too. each with president trump. even with president trump. i think at the end of the day they will all be on the stage. >> you have been writing about mayor pete buttigieg's campaign for a while now and there has been a lot of criticism surrounding his previous work at mckinsey and company, and after public pressure, he turned over his client list which includes blue cross, best buy and several federal agencies. why does this information matter? and will it change how the voters feel? >> i mean the question behind this, is that mckinsey and company, one of the big three consulting firms, in the country, has been under a lot of scrutiny for its work helping authoritarian governments, the

immigration and customs enforcement, and what buttigieg opponents wonder about is how involved he was, with some of these seedier clients or projects that the consulting firm has dealt with over the years. and it is ally also been a bludgeon for, it has rally been a bludgeon for buttigieg's critics especially blue cross blue shield michigan where during his time at the firm, blue cross blue shield michigan had a series of layoffs, and the question is, did buttigieg have any involvement in consulting and advising blue cross blue shield michigan on those layoffs. >> and adding to, that buttigieg has also been in the hot seat over the private fundraiserer, where some protesters showed up demanding they be made public. did he end up opening them up to the public? and what's your reaction to that? >> i mean so right now, there are poll reports which means every fundraiser there is a reporter there to write about

and covering the event. and this has become an increasing trend among presidential candidates. former vice president's biden's campaign took pool reports too and the idea is to be as transparent as possible, in response to questions about what buttigieg is hiding and perhaps that there is something secretive going on at these events. >> buttigieg has held firmly to his spot in the polls. here are the latest numbers. 26% of voters say that joe biden is the first choice among 2020 democrats followed by warren and sanders. do you think these numbers are changing much before iowa's caucus in february? >> we have seen a level of retention among these top candidates that i don't know if it will change any time soon. buttigieg has risen from a basic obscurity, to near front-runner status, or highly competitive status, in iowa and new hampshire, but really iowa especially. and right now, there seems to

be, he seems to be on the upward trajectory. at the same time though, earlier in the year, the rivalry really seemed to be between biden and warren, and warren has seen a slight dip in polling right now, but it is a long way to go, and this could all change once a candidate either wins one of these big early four states, or places competitively there. >> and as for warren, she is ramping up her attacks on pete bujsz a buttigieg and other democrats. do you think this has to do with her poll numbers? >> possibly, but also simply it comes at a time when you want to contrast yourself with your competitors, in the primary. for much of this democratic primary race, the candidates have not taken the gloves off. they have been pretty polite to each other. and been unwilling to attack each other. but there is, you know, in every cycle, there comes a point where it is time to really hit your opponent. >> and daniel, in the next month and a half, what do you think we will see from all of the

candidates as they prepare for the election, to officially begin in iowa? >> i think we are going to see a lot of discussion of health care. there is going to be a lot of questions among all of the candidates about impeachment, and what the outcome of these impeachment efforts mean. but beyond that, there's going to be an ongoing discussion of medicare for all. which is perhaps i think the most heated and contentious subject within the democratic party. and we're going to see more policy takers. more questions about billionaires and money in politics. we've seen some late entrants from michael bloomberg, and deval patrick. and i think that's going to come up in debates going forward. >> daniel, thank you so much. and we're going to stick around. stick around, because we will talk to you in a few minutes about the so-called trump anxiety disorder. there was a landslide victory for the u.k.'s boris johnson and what does it mean

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in power, politics and paycheck, the vitriole in washington taking a poll on american's psyche. in a new survey almost 80% of americans say politic is the biggest cause of stress and anxiety in their lives and two-thirds say all the stress is making them less productive at work. despite stocks soaring to

the all time high, paydays on wall street are smaller, axios says new york city officials expect the total sum of bonus payouts will be 9% smaller. and it may amount to $25 billion. $2 $2.5 billion less than last year. boris johnson and the conservative party celebrating the sweeping victory in the british election, the biggest win for tories in more than 30 years, putting the u.k. on a clear path toward brexit as johnson vows to make it happen in the next few months and it fueled a push for scottish independence. joining me is joe klieman, co-founder and director of delta poll, a u.k. polling firm. good to have you. so this was a landslide victory. 350 seats in parliament. the biggest win for conservatives. and what is behind this massive sweep? >> you're right. boris johnson managed to succeed where many before him had failed. and that success is at least

part due to the fact that he personally is very popular, particularly among his own supporters, and compared to the previous prime minister, theresa may, he performs very, very well in the polls, and out on the campaign trail. also the labour party, the official opposition, really didn't have a particularly strong campaign. they were behind on not just leadership, but also when it came to the key issues. the issue of brexit. the issue of health. and the issue of the economy. and all of those, as there are many other, people preferred boris johnson and the conservatives when given a straight choice between the two. >> president trump was quick to celebrate johnson's victory. here is what he tweeted early in the morning. congratulations to boris johnson, on his great win. britain and the united states will now be free to strike a massive new trade deal after brexit. this deal has the potential to be far bigger and more lucrative than any deal could be made with the eu. celebrate boris. is the conservative victory a

good thing for this trade relationship between the u.k. and the u.s.? >> yes, i think potentially it is. it is worth noting that boris johnson was officially an american citizen until he renounced his citizenship in 2016. definitely a positive person toward america and more so than the jaeremy corbyn one could argue the leader of the labour party. up until now, boris johnson has had extreme difficulty getting anything through the legislative process through this country. he hasn't been able to pass laws because he has been leading a minority administration. now not just with a majority but a very strong majority, those barriers have been removed, so essentially, any deal that he can strike with the united states, will lakely pass without any problems at all. the question remains of course, will the the negotiations go well between our two countries, and will, in the end, we be able to strike a deal that is beneficial to both. that remains to be seen.

but certainly, the kind of barriers that were in place up until just a few days ago are no longer there on this side. >> and the labour party in the u.k. received criticism for swinging too far to the left. is there a lesson here for democrats in the u.s. going into 2020? >> well, part of the problem with the labour party, the campaign, is not their policies weren't popular, because some of them really were, but it was more the method of delivery. at no stage did the labour party manage to engage emotionally with the voters in sufficient numbers and i would say that the main lesson for the democrats in 2020 is to find a way to engage with people, not just on an intellectual level, but on an emotional level as well. and that's true in terms of policy, that's true in terms of presentation, but also, arguably, most crucially, that's important in terms of leader. >> and talk about the leader, the labour party leader jeremy

corbyn, was he a bad candidate or were his party's ideas at fault? >> it was a combination of both but jeremy corbyn was a particularly bad candidate compared to the other leaders going forward in this contest. he was 30, 40 points behind boris johnson in the polls. and by a margin of two to one, the british public thought that boris johnson would make the better prime minister. and though he was able to, though jeremy corbyn was able to improve his position throughout the campaign, he was never really able to improve it significantly. and he was dogged by accusations of disunity within his party, but also crucially anti-semitism. that was a longstanding problem. and many thought that he personally was anti-semitic, but more problematic was that the larger numbers thought his party was anti-semitic, and he had been unable to deal with it. >> live for us from london,

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now to capitol hill, after a long partisan battle over impeachment on capitol hill this week, the divide between political parties feels deeper than ever. and with the 2020 election inching closer, some democrats are feeling the psychological impact. as "the new york times" puts it, trump anxiety has morphed into anxiety about everything and the impeachment battle isn't helping. nd the impeachment battle isn't helping. therapists reported an increase in patients who say anything having to do with politics is making them uneasy, angry and hopeless, a condition that one psychologist christened trump anxiety disorder

how nervous are democrat >> i think there's a sense of unease within the party. donald trump perm yates every bit of the american existence these days, whether it's immigration, holidays, you're around the table talking with your family. i think democrats are worried after the hillary clinton debacle in cl2016, that we'll fd the same kind of end point. i think democrats are trying to come together and find a candidate and speak to the emotional aspect which one of your previous guests was talking about, was one of the problems with the laborpr party. >> there are only two articles of impeachment drawn against the president, less than a lot of people were expecting. do you think it suggests the democrats were afraid to draw too many articles? >> i don't really know how if they're feeling afraid or confident right now. what i do know about this is that we know that these are pretty narrow and specific charges against the president.

that's what house democrats have been focused on all along. and that's what nancy pelosi has been focused on as she's moved towards impeachment and looked aten the numbers in her caucus right now. the goal for house democrats in terms of at least or the mechanics of this is to stay very specific. they do not want to come up as unnecessary partisan here, the argument they made through this entire process is this is not about political partisanship. the fact that these two charges are there i think speaks to that. >> asp new poll out of wisconsi shows for the second straight month a majority of registered voters don't believe president trump should be impeached and removed from office, 40% say he should beay impeached and remov. 50% said he should not. the numbers nearly identical to november'sal poll. should those numbers worry democrats? >> i thinkry poll numbers are

important to look at. and when you're talking about whether to impeach a president, polls have to go out the window. we're talking about institutions and whether the government itself is legitimate. whether elections are safe. i think democrats have to put away the poll numbers and look inside themselves and ask what are we willing to risk. and i think impeachment is the right decision. >> michaelen this thursday the president sent a total of 123 tweets and retweets in 24 hours, a new personal record for the president. how concerning is this president'ser behavior? >> well it's very concerning. if that was what last week looked like, imagine what next week is going to look like. the president tries to pretend like impeachment doesn't bother him. he knows he's i going to be onef the few presidents ever impeached. and no matter what happens, there will always be that asterisk next to his name. >> senator lindsey graham and

congressman jim g jordan at two separate hearings used a similar defense a strategy, let's liste. >> they couldn't believe trump won. and when he won, couldn't tolerate thee fact that he won. all these smelly people elected him. this is bad stuff. >> it's not just because they don't like thet president, the don't like us. they don't like the 63 million people who voted for this president. all f of us in flyover country. all of us common folk in ohio, wisconsin,o, tennessee and texa they don't like us. >>e it's an interesting strate, what do you make of this us versus them defense? >> i mean that really is the core of the republican strategy through all of this, it's to circle their wagons, argue that this onis, as the president and his closest allies say, a witch hunt. and this move could happen to any republican president, thatu it's only about partisanship and not about institutions or the

president trump's conduct here. the sense behind this is that that will rally and keep republicans in line throughout this impeachment process. >> what's your reaction to that? >>t? it's grievance politics, h republicans have managed to capture the white house and keep it in 2020. the idea that the system is unfair, built against us and everyone is against us. we'll see if it works. but i think there's a lot of consternation and people are tired of it. >> interesting point. michael star hopkins, great to have you h this morning and danl strauss, thanks for sticking around. outcry over an outgoing governor's so-called extreme pardons. including that of a child sex offender just sent to prison. why did he do it? ♪oh there's no place like home for the holidays.♪

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and that wraps up this hour of msnbc live, i'm dara brown. thanks for watching. cory coffen picks up this hour. >> a good morning to everybody who is joining us. i'm cori coffin in new york. it's 7:00 in the east, 4:00 out west. it's been a busy, historic and dramatic 24 hours in the impeachment inquiry. let's bring you up to date. >> history has been made. the house judiciary committee this morning voting along party

lines 23-7, 17 in both instances, two articles of impeachment against donald trump. >> today is a solemn and sad day. for the third time in a little over a century and a half, the house judiciary committee has voted articles of impeachment against the president for abuse of power and obstruction of congress. >> president trump's trade shifts from twitter to the oval office. railing against house democrats taking the next step toward voting presidential history. >> it's a witch hunt, a sham, a hoax. nothing was done wrong. zero was done wrong. >> the white house has set its sights on the senate where republicans remain staunchly in defense of the president. but even as the white house looks forward to a trial in the senate, which is what happens next, "the new york times" reports that trump quote nurses resentment over the red mark about to be tattooe