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how we wrap up our wednesday night broadcast. thank you so very much for being here with us. good night from our nbc news headquarters here in new york. history made on capitol hill, for the third time ever, the house of representatives has voted to impeach a sitting president. now the articles head over to the senate but house speaker nancy pelosi wants clarification first. >> what is taking place on capitol hill, president trump was rallying supporters in michigan, speaking for about two hours last night. he slammed democrats over what he called an illegal and unconstitutional impeachment. good morning, everybody. it has been -- >> quite an historic day.
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>> quite a 24 hours or so. it is thursday, december 19th. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. president donald trump is now the third u.s. president to be impeached by the house. the first article against him, obstruction of justice, was adopted shortly after 8:30 p.m. last night following 12 hours of debate, the second article of, obstruction of congress, came less than 20 minutes later. two democrats voted against the first article, three voted against the second. republican turned independent justin amash voted to impeach on both counts. while congresswoman tulsi gabbard voted present on both. here is how speaker nancy pelosi called the vote, and keeping her caucus in line. watch this. >> on this vote, the ayes are 230, and the nays are 197. present is one. article one is adopted.
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>> on this vote, the yays are 229, the number ays are 198, present is one, article two is adopted. >> and the next fight has already shaped up over exactly when the house will send the articles over to the senate, last night pelosi says she will hold off possibly for concessions from majority leader mitch mcconnell. take a listen. >> we cannot manage this until we see what the process is on the senate side. and i would hope that that will be soon, as we did with our legislation, our resolution 660, to describe what the process would be. so far, we haven't seen anything that looks fair to us, so hopefully it will be fairer and when we see what that is, we will move forward. >> so would you wait to send the articles until you understand what the senate is going to do. >> we will make a decision as a
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group, as we always have, as we go along. >> there are witnesses that the president withheld from us. there are documents that the president withheld from us. and we would hope that that information would be available in a trial to go to the next step, because that's another level in terms of conviction, in terms of this. but right now, the president is impeached. >> and the white house press secretary stephanie grisham told reporters that president trump would be working all day, but his twitter feed offered realtime commentary on the impeachment proceedings yesterday. with an emphasis on quotes from fox news and its commentators. and at the very moment the house was voting to impeach him, president trump was rallying supporters in michigan, a state he won back in 2016, and will be crucial to the next election. while speaking to the crowd, the president claimed he wasn't worried. in fact, he said he was enjoying himself. >> i'm the first person to ever
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get impeached and there's no crime, like i feel guilty, you know what they call it, im pooemtligh -- impeachment-lite,e richard nicken, i see it as a dark era, very dark, but i don't know about you but i'm having a good time. it's crazy. >> so i'm not worried. i'm not worried. because it is always good when you don't do anything wrong, you get impeached, that may be a record that will last forever. this lawless partisan impeachment is a political suicide march for the democrat party. have you seen my polls in the last four weeks? crazy nancy pelosi, house democrats, have branded themselves with an eternal mark of stamina, it really is, it is a disgrace. >> so house republicans yesterday offered some pretty dramatic comparisons to
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democrats in the impeachment proceedings against the president. ranging from joe mccarthy and stalinism, to the attack on pearl harbor, and the crucifixion of jesus. >> 21 years ago this week, i spoke here, on impeachment. in this sadly history will not treat democrats well. they will forever be referred as the senator joe mccarthy's of our time, so blinded by their hatred of president trump they abandoned american rights of due process and fairness, and just decency. reminiscent of joe mccarthy, they assaulted the constitution, took pleas in secret hearings, blocked evidence and switched charges like rogue prosecutors. >> in order to arrive at the stallenistic predetermined conclusion, house democrats spent time with well rehearsed hearings where the charges were drawn up by their own focus group, democrat donors served as witness, and democrat staff served as judge and jury.
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>> on december 7, 1941, a horrific accident happened in the united states, and it is one that president roosevelt says this is a date that will live in infamy. today, december the 18th, 2019, is another date that will live in infamy. >> when jesus was falsely accused of treason, pontiuss gave jesus an effort to confront his accusers, more rights were given to jesus than this president. >> and democrats are said to have pursued impeachment over dislike or hate for the president and democrats rejected those accusations. >> it is clear president trump's actions, as described in these articles do not constitute treason, bribery, or high crimes and misdemeanors. you simply don't like him. >> this vote, this day, is about one thing, and one thing only.
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they hate this president. they hate those of us who voted for him. they think we're stupid. they think we made a mistake. they think hillary clinton should be the president. and they want to fix that. >> we do not hate president trump. but we do know that president trump will continue to threaten the nation's security, democracy, and constitutional system if he is allowed to remain in office. that threat is not hypothetical. >> i don't hate the president. but i love my country. and i have no other choice. voting for these articles of impeachment is the only moral course of action, the only way to honor our oath of office. >> joining us now from washington, nbc news correspondent leann caldwell. good morning to you. i know you had a long day yesterday and we appreciate you joining us so early in the morning. obviously as we heard from speaker pelosi yesterday, her plan is delay, delay, delay, until she feels like the senate has a fair trial ahead.
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and walk us through some of the next steps that we will see with this impeachment process. >> reporter: she already threw a bomb into this whole process that was relatively unexpected, she made it just after the president was impeached by the house of representatives but what she is doing is holding out for the leverage she has, and using this to try to get some concessions and get some clarity in this process. but what she and democrats are worried about is a process that is not agreed on beforehand, and one that is where there are votes taken vote after vote, in the senate, just to agree on anything, and so the democrats do not want that, they want the parameters set before, before this has begun, an nancy pelosi has that leverage and she is using mitch mcconnell and leader schumer, who is expected to meet at the earliest today, and there wasn't a lot of hope in those
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discussions, going into today, but now, that nancy pelosi is withholding these articles of impeachment, perhaps there might be an incentive to reach some sort of agreement between the two. >> i think the question is how long she can put it out until the senate demands a senate trial. >> the important thing is, leann, i want to get to you on this, she is holding the articles from getting to the senate and by doing so does not give the republicans an ability to exonerate and acquit the president which may be something that he obviously wants quickly rather than delayed, but how are both sides preparing for a senate trial in the eventuality it does arrive there? >> it is on two fronts. first is the leaders, mcconnell and schumer, who are really negotiating through the press. mcconnell went on fox news last week, talking about how he is working hand in hand with the president's attorney, he was publicly calling for his members to vote to, for a quick, speedy trial, to wrap up quickly.
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and then schumer, of course, released his parameters and his offer to mcconnell, to the media on sunday knit. so there is a lot of, there is negotiating through the media, trying to get the upper hand here, and then behind the scenes, there is a lot of preparation from these senators. rank and file members are holding briefings, they're trying to figure out how, what this would look like, really trying to school themselves on what to prepare. so we might see some clarity before the end of this week, but my bet is things are going to enter into this christmas season with things still very up in the air. >> lee ann caldwell, thank you, we will talk to you again in a little bit. the 2020 democratic presidential field weighing in on the house's historic vote to impeachment donald trump. former vice president joe biden wrote in a tweet this, president trump abused his power, violated his oath of office, and betrayed our nation. this is a solemn moment for our
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country. but in the united states of america, no one is above the law, not even the president. senator bernie sanders called yesterday quote a sad but necessary day for american democracy, saying that the house voting to impeach trump was quote the right thing it do. and mayor pete buttigieg wrote in part that the vote required congress to defend the rule of law, on national security, and our democracy from a president who puts his own interests above america's. some presidential hopefuls commented on the next step in the impeachment process, with senator elizabeth warren writing this. donald trump has abused our diplomatic relationships and undermined our national security for his own personal, political gain. by voting to impeach him, the house has taken an important step to hold him accountable. i'm ready to fulfill my constitutional duty in the senate. and congresswoman tulsi gabbard who voted present explained her decision, a house divided cannot stand. sadly our nation is terribly
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divided. my vote today is a vote for much needed reconciliation and hope that together, we can heal our country, to usher in a bright future for the american people, our country, and our nation. still ahead, we are taking a look at some of the top moments from yesterday's historic impeachment debate including a fight that erupted after chairman jerry nadler accused a republican congressman of spreading russian prop dan ga. >> two weeks ago, invoking barron trump and then the president did it himself at the michigan rally. those stories when we come back and a check on weather. when we and a check on weather [ suspenseful music ]
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repeated a debunked theory that ukraine interfered in the 2016 election. watch. >> the impeachments serve two purposes. number one, stop the investigation by the u.s. department of justice and ukraine into the corruption of ukraine interference into the u.s. election in 2016. >> i am deeply concerned that any member of the house could spout russian propaganda on the floor of house and i yield one minute to the gentleman from new york, mr. higgens. >> the gentleman from new york -- the house will come to order. the gentleman from new york is recognized for one minute. >> thank you. >> the house will come to order. the house will come to order. >> joining us now on the set, msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos. what i heard overwhelmingly yesterday was in spite of all of the president's legal troubles throughout his entire career and all that has taken place leading
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up to this moment, and this vote yesterday, the president is finally being held accountable for those who feel like he should be held accountable for his actions. what did you make of the vote that you saw took place yesterday? >> even though the outcome was never really in doubt, such dramatic moments, as the full house debated, in the chamber, and then the vote came and you watched those numbers pop up on the screen, and although we mostly knew what the outcome was going to be, there was still just that moment of what could happen, and sure enough, the president is impeached, and you saw a lot of moments of high drama, as house members argued with each other, and were often and frequently out of order. >> you guys were watching minute by minute but there was a moment where one republican was in the yes column for impeachment and then it was switched so i was even surprised that you could switch your vote until the time runs out. >> i was going to mention that, but since last night i was wondering if i imagined it, even though i was anchoring along with allison morris, we were not
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sure we had seen it and i wanted to know if that was a glitch. >> we don't know what took place there. >> exactly. >> let me ask you quickly about the tactic by piecer pelosi to not, speaker pelosi to transmit the article, the official language, to the senate, for the trial to begin, what do you make of that move and how might it play out among the senators. >> it is a clever strategy for democrats because the house has the sole power to impeach but once they impeach, when that ends, they lose all power and in the house the democrats have the majority and once they transmit the articles to the senate, the senate republicans are in power, and the balance of power shifts dramatically. so with now that they are losing all of their leverage in the last moment, the house democrats would be wise to try and negotiate favorable terms of a trial in the senate. the real question is whether or not mitch mcconnell and the republicans are willing to entertain any negotiations about how the senate, which again has
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the sole power to try impeachment, whether they are going to let the house dictate to them any of their internal rules. >> but if they don't entertain any of it, then they could feasibly find themselves at a standstill, pelosi holds the cards, she has all of the power right now. >> exactly. it calls to mind images of the merit garland situation, where the senate refused to hold a vote on confirming a supreme court justice, they delayed and ran out the clock, until things changed with the new administration. so the question will be, in the coming days, how long can the democrats hold out before they're required to transmit these articles to the senate for the trial. >> you can say a lot of things about nancy pelosi, certainly one of them is she is very politically savvy and she has been outmaneuvering everyone throughout this whole process so far. >> and you saw in that moment as well. >> i got in line. >> all right, danny cevallos, we will talk to you again in a little bit. still ahead, new reporting
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jail cell. the cell mate had requested the footage be retained two days after epstein's unsuccessful suicide attempt on july 23rd in which he claims he stopped epstein from killing himself. epstein had claimed his cell mate attacked him. but his cell mate is on death row for quadruple murder and his attorneys wanted the footage retained as evidence to potentially show their client's quote good character. >> as if the story couldn't get any more bizarre, one more twist. a federal appeals court ruled yesterday that a provision in the affordable care act requiring americans to have health insurance was unconstitutional. the federal appeals court in new orleans found that the law's insurance requirement became unconstitutional when congress removed the tax on people without insurance in 2017. the court did not make a ruling on the overall constitutionality of the law and sent it back to the lower court for further review. the rest of the affordable care act will remain intact for now. but house speaker nancy pelosi calling the ruling a chilling
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threat for those who rely on the affordable care act. >> so much developing yesterday, some of the big news yesterday was the snow squall. >> yes. >> 4:00 p.m. it came out of nowhere, bill karins. >> you know why i love watching this show? >> why? >> i thought you were in the show. you're just watching now. >> you are part of the show, bill, you know that. >> you know, yesterday, let me get to the point, the weather person said late afternoon snow squall in new york city and he was dead on. >> on the show? >> on our show? >> on this show. >> check the tape on that. and get back to you. >> all right. so next weather report. >> we had so many pictures, beautiful ditime lapse and the empire state building, a wall of white, pretty much a snow squall is the same thing as a summer time downpour or thunderstorm coming through and this one, is awesome, what is the hudson river, the snow squall coming in. almost like a bank of fog that is rolling in. so unfortunate, it was deadly, too. there was a bad accident on interstate 80 heading through the poconos.
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pensacola, and panama city and much of georgia and south carolina and florida on sunday, it will be rainy and you will notice, guys, it is a mild weekend, middle of the country and to the north east, it is going to warm up and today by far the worst of it through christmas in the northeast. so survive today and you will have in complaints. >> get through it. >> we will pay more attention to your weather forecast going forward. >> i do pay attention. every single day. i knew it was coming. >> she said it was a surprise. >> rewind the tape. >> thanks, bill. still ahead, much more on the historic impeachment vote, the matter will now head to the senate in january. we are going to talk about how majority leader mitch mcconnell and minority leader chuck schumer will proceed. >> and president trump goes after the late congressman john dingell and his wife congressman debbie dingell, those stories and much more coming up. ose sto and much more coming up. ♪for the holidays you can't beat home sweet home.♪
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welcome back, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin vossoughian. we begin this half hour with the next steps in the impeachment process. last night, the house passed two articles against the president. they are abuse of power, and obstruction of congress. while president trump, now the third u.s. president ever to face possible removal by the senate and while trump is expected to be acquitted at trial, it could now be delayed. more on that, we turn to nbc news correspondent leigh ann caldwell in washington. take us through house speak yer nancy pelosi's course of action. what are her next steps? >> reporter: the next steps are to try to get as much as she can
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out of the trial, the senate trial, and she is doing that by withholding the articles of impeachment, to take a step back here, the house passed the articles of impeachment, but they have to be physically transferred over to the senate, so until that happens, the senate cannot proceed with this trial, which is what everyone was expecting. so pelosi really kind of exploded this process last night, saying that she is not pleased with what the senators, especially the republicans are talking about, regarding a senate trial, and wanting a speedy trial, not committing to set the parameters of the trial, before it starts, and so what pelosi is doing is using the leverage that she has at this point to try to get some terms or an agreement reached, before they move forward. she is saying that she needs to know what the trial is going to look like before she appoints impeachment manager, the people who prosecute the president in this trial, saying that that is critical to decide what sort of people she needs to appoint to
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this. so what we thought was going to be a very straightforward process has become much more complicated and uncertain. >> leigh ann, do you have any idea how long the speaker could actually hold out? >> there is no time limit. she can do this as long as she wants, and the concern was that republicans and democrats in the senate would never reach an agreement on what the parameters would look like, and hearing from republican sources who are saying that there are some on the far right who don't want any sort of agreement, and that's because that will, to their base, look like senators are agreeing to run this impeachment trial, so there is a lot of politics involved in the situation, and there could be resolution, or we could not. >> leigh ann caldwell, live in dc for us, thanks, appreciate it. before yesterday's vote, democrats took to the house floor to warn that it was imperative to impeachment president trump to protect u.s. national security in the 2020
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election. >> as a matter of fact, the president is an ongoing threat to our national security, and the integrity of our elections, the basis of our democracy. >> we cannot rely on the next election as a remedy for presidential misconduct, when the president threatens the very integrity of that election. >> president trump's wrong doing, and the urgent threat that his actions present to our next election and our democracy leaves us no principled alternative but to support these articles of impeachment. >> we are on the precipice of the 2020 election and congress has ultimate responsibility to protect the sacred equalizer, our right to vote. >> once again, joining us here on the set msnbc legal analyst danny cevallos, you heard it there, you heard the case made by many democrats on the floor yesterday, looking ahead to the senate, is there any way that these democrats can make their case stronger? >> they can, but the reality is
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the republicans are in complete control. arguably, it's potentially possible that they could make a motion dismiss in the first few minutes of this senate trial. that's how much power the republicans have, once it gets to the senate. they create the rules. in all likelihood, what we saw in the clinton impeachment trial was that the, you saw senator kennedy, and senator trent lott get together and hammer out the rules. i expect it to be a lot more contentious this time around. and i think when we get to the trial in the senate, it's going to be less heated, and less debate than we saw in the house, but i think it is going to be a lot faster because republicans are not going to let it get out of hand. >> let's talk quickly about nancy pelosi's decision and her play to kind of force mitch mcconnell here to make some concessions to make this a fair process if at all possible. what is the risk, if in fact, this stalls too long, and there is no movement by the house speaker to the senate side? what is the risk for both sides?
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>> i think the play here for nancy pelosi is to stall, but not make it appear publicly like a stall, because i think the general public, the american citizens when they see and believe that this is really just a stall for south carolina th, nancy pelosi and the democrats are never going to get in the senate, then the tide has turned but it is a clever move for nancy pelosi to try to extract some guarantees of a fair trial, because she realizes that this could be over in a matter of seconds if for example any senator makes a motion to dismiss, and then it is ruled upon. i want it point out that although the constitution says that the chief justice shall preside over impeachments involving the president, the real chief justice is going to be mitch mcconnell. because the senate has the sole power to try the impeachment. and because of that, there's a lot of question in modern times, what does the chief justice actually do? the senate can override his
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rulings, so he presides, but really only a loose sense, nothing like the way he presides at the supreme court, where he is like unto a king. >> when you are talking about risks, you wonder what the political risk is here, especially head nag an election year in 2020, right? is it going to hurt the president more? is it going to hurt the democrats more? >> mitch mcconnell? >> or the democratic candidates more heading up to the election. we will have to wait and see. danny cevallos, always a pleasure. >> appreciate it. while the house was voting to impeach president trump, he was in michigan for a campaign rally where he attacked his democratic opponents both dead and alive. here is the president going after the late congressman john dingell. >> you know, dingell, from michigan, you know, dingell, you ever heard of him, from michigan? debbie dingell, that's a real beauty, so she calls me up, like eight months ago, her husband was here a long time, but i didn't give him the b treatment, or i didn't give him the c or the d, chi, have nobody would
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have, you know, i gave the a plus treatment, take down the flags, why are you taking them down. ex-congressman dingell. oh, okay. do this, do that. do that. rotunda, everything. i gave him everything. that's okay. i don't want anything for it. i don't need anything for anything. she calls me up, and says that's the nicest thing that has ever happened, thank you so much. john would be so thrilled. he's looking down, he would be so thrilled. thank you so much, sir. i said that's okay, don't worry about it. and maybe he is looking up, i don't know. i don't know. maybe. maybe. but let's assume he is looking down. >> dingell's widow, congressman debbie ding whole currently holds her late husband's seat responded in a tweet, mr. president, let's set politics aside. my husband earned all his
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accolades after a lifetime of service. i'm preparing for the first holiday season without the man i love. you brought me down in a way you never imagine and your hurtful words have made healing much harder. the first lady said her son should be kept out of politics but what about when the president mentions his name? the first look at "morning joe," back in a moment. t look at "mor" back in a moment they don't even have any crime. this is the first impeachment where will is no crime. i say tell me what i did. >> the president told us himself, on national television, exactly what he wanted from the phone call with president zelensky. >> tell me what i did, please. >> he came on the white house lawn and he said i wanted president zelensky to open an investigation into the bidens. >> tell me what i did, please? >> he solicited foreign interference before, he is doing it now, and he will do it again. the president is the smoking gun.
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welcome back. at his rally in michigan last night, the president invoked his 13-year-old son barron during an attack on senator and 2020 candidate elizabeth warren. watch this. >> crazy pocahontas goes to the middle of central park, wherever, she is in manhattan, people, i could have barron trump go into central park and we get a crowd. he could. he could get a bigger crowd. >> so trump's comments come after republicans widely criticized an impeachment witness for invoking barron trump during the ukraine testimony earlier this month. >> contrary to what president trump has said, article two does not give him the power to do anything he wants. i will just give you one example that shows you the difference between him and a king. which is the constitution says there can be no titles of nobility. so while the president can name his son barron, he can't make
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him a barron. >> and first lady melania trump weighed in, saying a minor child deserves privacy and sha be kept o , and should be kept out of politics. and let's go to bill karins, you said squall, luckily for you it was recorded. we went to the tape. let's go to the tape. >> did i say squall? >> we have a little bit of snow kicking in. this is lake effect snow, because of a cold blast coming through the great lakes, but kind of like a quick burst of snow, and some of this may make it all the way toward new york city and connecticut later on this afternoon. >> all right. >> you said it. >> the definition of a snow squall is a quick burst of snow. i'm just saying you didn't use the word squall here, we like to be fact-based on this program. we're a fact-based program. >> where would that be on the meter? >> i will give it to you. >> you got the gist of it. >> you got the gist. >> the timing and the burst but
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no squall. >> maybe like a solid "b". >> that's pretty good. >> next time. >> it was a b, b plus. it was good. unfortunately, the snow squall yesterday, it came through, you know, it was picturesque and everyone's phones were going off in the northeast. kind of a big deal. new to people. but the terminology and the snow squall, they have been happening, you know, since we've been, you know, occupying this land. especially near the great lakes. and the reason that they started giving these alerts is because when people are driving, you can just drive into a wall of snow. you want as much time to prepare. and unfortunately, like scenes like this happened. even with the alerts yesterday and all of the snow squall warnings, we had a massive pile-up on interstate 80. and you can see the vehicles involved. unfortunately one fatality involved. and that area was under a snow squall warning. and a lot of people had the timing that they knew what was going to be coming. let's talk about the cold behind this. it is brutal right now this morning from the great lakes through the northeast. this is the coldest you are
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going to be for the next week. so that is the positive spin on it. as you head outside this morning in negative 27 degree air in northern portions of new england and today is not going to reach highs, even with the sun, highs only in the 20s, to a lot of the roads still probably going to melt during the day, but with the sun, and then refreeze later on there. are slippery spots out there and it is cold. the other weather story as we head into the weekend, downpours with a weekend washout, especially northern portions of florida and as we go through saturday night, and it starts to spread through atlanta and sunday is going to be a rainy day throughout much of florida, and as we go into areas of georgia and south carolina. so keep that in mind, for all of your errands running. the other good news is, the northern portion of the country, really warms up. omaha, 48 and minneapolis in the upper 30s this time of the year, and much warmer than normal. and sunday it heads into the ohio valley, and 55 in memphis, and pittsburgh at 48. here is the forecast, as we head toward christmas, raleigh could be 63 on christmas day.
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and new york city, 47 degrees. and chicago, 45. and so it doesn't look like there is going to be, it is going to fol more like late fall, fol more like late than early winter. >> we missed a white christmas by one week if your squall would have been a little later. >> one of our meetology staff people behind the scenes new york city does one white christmas a decade. >> oh, wow. >> not often. >> thanks for that, bill. >>. appreciate that. still ahead the president railed against new york congressman carol maloney with the vote to impeach and what he is saying about the $4,000 she donate fod to her campaign, years ago. ♪oh there's no place like home for the holidays.♪
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trump. president trump abused the power of his office, for his own personal and political gate at the expense of our national security. >> i see a woman, carolyn maloney, a long-time nothing much, she is a congresswoman from the manhattan east side, i was with her, her first race, i helped her, oh, thank you, thank you, lots of contributions over the years and new york, democrat, especially manhattan and what happens, i make lots of contributions, years and years and years and i go run for and the first person i see carolyn maloney, i raise my hand to
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impeach. well give me back the damn money i have been paying her for so many years. let her pay me back all the money. >> so that was the president york congresswoman carolyn maloney who's now chair of the house oversight committee. records showing he made the contributions between 1993 and 2008 when a primary challenger called on the congresswoman to return the donations last month. an official with her campaign told the hill that the donations were used to elect democratic lawmakers. >> all right. now to the big political story in the uk today, the queen will mark the start of a new parliament following the commanding victory for the conservative party last week. cnbc's villan marx joins us live on set making his first look debut in person. >> in person. >> quite the moment there in the uk. we're expect the queen to gift queen speech. it's obviously written by boris
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johnson's government but what is the significance and what are we expected to hear today from the queen's conference? >> it's like setting out the agenda for the session. it's going to be five years with borison soon boris johnson leading the government there. this is a big part of brexit, what they're going to do with brexit. what they're saying, what boris johnson si johnson is insisting that dr th will happen in january. and that's because they make the legislation that gets it through parliament. he has this massive majority, because in the past over the last year or so, he and his predecessor didn't have the arithmetic behind them to get it passed. we'll see that happening, it will start as soon as tomorrow they'll start that process. and then by the end of january
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if that's all tied up they'll be leaving the eu. this is when it gets complicated. there's essentially a stand still agreement between the uk and eu when it comes to the laws and trading loop rules, so that continues at the moment until the end of next year. >> right. >> so if you're a business owner in the uk, doesn't make any difference to you that brexit happens at the end of january, for now. then over the next 11 months, next year, the uk will be negotiating with the europeans about what the future looks like, how they're going to interact with one another when it comes to trade, security, all of these issues. that is going to be a very complex process. the uk government under boris johnson says we can get this done in 11 months. that's never happened before, and the european side said this is really difficult stuff, we don't think it can be done so quickly. >> we've heard a lot of timetables coming out of the uk that have come and gone so we'll have to see if the end of january actually sticks. >> this is the thing, you know, part of pressure on boris
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johnson is to make sure that he can form trading relationships with the united states, let's say, and what the europeans may not be that comfortable with is allowing regulations to loosen in the uk, when they want to form trade deals with the u.s. >> great seeing you in person the. ux u up nexp next, the look one big thing. >> plus, nancy pelosi says she'll hold off on sending the articles to the upper chamber. steny hoyer and debbie stabba know will weigh in. "morning joe" just moments away.
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came, there was a lot of politicking and debate. you think about to immigration, over spending, over war, over the financial crisis, over keeping government open. i was a former congressional reporter so i was down on the hill to see what was the mood like yesterday on the hill? unlike many of those other votes when the debate was going up and there was arm twisting going on, sometimes the floor itself during the debate, yesterday it was totally a foregone conclusion. i'm reminded of things like the medicare expansion debate. it was only a vote held open for three hours in the middle of the night to get final vote. or even sort of during the trump administration some of these votes been very consequential to the last minute. we didn't know that brett kavanaugh was going to be confirmed to the supreme court until susan collin gave her speech just hours before the final vote. and remember the big one on the repeal of the affordable care act, we didn't know how that was going down until the very last vote when john mccain came out and gave the fateful thumbs down. yesterday we knew what was going to happen before it started. it speaks very much to the power
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of party over politics a not congress right now, specifically on the republican side. trump's power and sway over the republicans, not a single one of them broke ranks yesterday and we're seeing the exact same thing when the senate trial begins possibly next month. >> speaker pelosi said she's going to wait to send these articles of impeachment to the senate which was quite a surprise to a lot of people. what is axios reporting about what comes next year? >> yeah, that say reis a real interesting wrinkle last night, sort of slowed the train on the tracks. nancy pelosi said she's not immediately going to sent articles over, that will delay the fact whether the senate can start -- what she wants to hear is what will the terms of that senate trial be. democrats are very upset with the way republicans have been talking about the possible senate trial. mitch mcconnell in particular saying he wouldn't be an impartial jury. they want to see if there's additional information they can bring to the senate particularly new witnesses that might change minds. a lot of democrats are telling us they want to hear from john bolton and acting chief of staff
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mick mulvaney. these are people who did not testify on the house side. they hope to bring them before the senate. remember what democrats have been looking for for many, many weeks on the impeachment trials have been a new piece of information that somehow sways intrenched republicans who show no sign of waivers. stay tuned to see what mcconnell says later this morning about his new plans for the senate trial and if that sways nancy pelosi. >> what is the political risk, you think, for senator mitch mcconnell if he does not at least put forward some kind of fair, some kind of, you know, transparent process? i mean, he's openly talked about coordinating it with the white house, they're on the same page. but what is the political risk for him in not doing so? >> i think there's political risk on both sides. mitch mcconnell's calculus on this is that as long as president trump is president and the senate is in the hands of republicans they can keep pushing through judges making judiciary. mitch mcconnell's maybe not seeing any political risk. what's interesting on the other side, nancy pelosi doesn't send the articles to the senate.
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we have this hung jury almost where the president is impeached but never trield, nevaled, neve the benefit of the acquittal. does that make a difference in the 2020 election. >> thank you. you can sign up for the newsletter at signup.axios.com. >> that does it for us on this thursday morning. i'm yasmin alongside ayman. "morning joe" starts right now. >> we have a great group of people behind us in the republican party. >> we use used to care about democracy. >> crazy nancy pelosi's house democrats. >> the moral courage of the house democrats -- [ booing ]. >> it doesn't feel like we're being impechd. >> the yays the 129. >> neigh are 128.
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