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that wraps up this hour of msnbc live, i'm garrett hake, now time for kendis gibson and cory coffin. >> it's strange to see you up there and not in a crossfit box. >> i'm cory coffin alongside kendis gibson. >> 7:00 on the east coast, 4:00 a.m. on the west coast. president trump overnight signing a $1.4 trillion spending package averting a government shutdown. the president signing the bills
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aboard air force one, on his way to mar-a-lago. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell plots the strategy for the impeachment trial. and house speaker nancy pelosi less than 48 hours after she gavelled in the votes to impeach the president, inviting him to deliver the state of the union address. both sides standing their ground. >> speaker pelosi suggesting that house democrats may be too afraid to transmit their shoddy work product to the senate. mr. president, it looks like the prosecutors are getting cold feet. >> our founders when they wrote the constitution suspected that there could be a rogue president. i don't think they suspected that we could have a rogue president and a rogue leader in the senate at the same time. >> i'm not going to answer any more questions on this. >> i understand they're playing games, they don't want to put in their articles, their ridiculous, phony fraudulent articles. >> is the president's case so
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weak that none of the president's men can defend him under oath? >> we have a team of reporters and analysts standing by following the latest this hour. let's begin with bloomberg's chief washington correspondent kevin cirilli. we know that right now congress is on break, but are we closer to getting the answers about the timing and scope that could proceed with the senate? >> i was up on capitol hill midweek before coming here to los angeles to cover the debate. the expectation was that senate majority leader mitch mcconnell would be able to have a trial, a short trial in the senate. in the month of january. now just within the last 24 hours obviously it's still unknown whether or not speaker pelosi is going to hand over those articles of impeachment to the senate. but she says that she wants to wait and see. to see whether or not leader mcconnell will open up the process to allow some of the folks that they, democrats would like to see testify.
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people like mick mulvaney. people like john bolton. but leader mcconnell as well as has said point-blank that that's not going to happen. there's a new interesting development, in the sense that speaker pelosi actually invited president trump for the state of the union address. and the first week of february. and the president despite all of this back and forth between speaker pelosi and president trump, that state of the union address is still scheduled now. he has accepted the invitation for the first week of february. >> i'm old enough to remember just this past year that that was a point of contention between the president -- >> it was last year. >> the president and the speaker, both sides appear, though, in the meantime so dug in to their positions in the senate you have this impasse over whether to call new witnesses and testimony as well. and in the house the speaker pelosi so far refusing to send articles of impeachment to the senate. who has more to gain or lose from this delay? >> both sides. and i'm not trying to dodge your
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question, but you look at the polls in terms of the battleground states, michigan, ohio, wisconsin, pennsylvania. democrats say it will embolden their base, republicans feel the exact same way. when i was covering the impeachment this week, just the intensity on both camps, where you have speaker pelosi unifying her party, leader mcconnell doing the exact same thing. there were virtually no folks in either camp who crossed over. with the exception of maybe one or two democrats, either way this is a remarkable, remarkable display of the strength of both speaker pelosi and leader mcconnell, that there aren't, that there aren't folks deserting their parties, and in the same week that all of of this goes on, both parties can say they delivered a massive trade deal, the u.s. mca, both parties can say they delivered a bipartisan retirement savings
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tweak bill. as they kept the government open. so it was a massive week in terms of policy developments in the midst of an historic impeachment vote. >> despite the impasse, there's stuff getting done right now. which i know most of the american people would appreciate. no matter where you fall on this thing. this is an interesting theory we would like to you break down for us. the white house now floating this question. according to bloomberg lawyers close to the president are exploring whether speaker pelosi's decision to with hold those articles of impeachment from the senate could mean that the president has not actually been impeached. is there any legitimacy to this? >> well there are conservative lawyer who is feel until the documents are handed over to the senate, my colleague jennifer jacobs and justin stein doing incredible reporting on this until they're handed over to the senate, technically there is no impeachment. and it's kind of like you know if a bill ends up on the president's desk and the president doesn't sign it it
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doesn't become a law. we're all getting a fascinating constitutional civics lesson on impeachment in real-time. that said, just the importance of that trial and this is why i brought up the state of the union address in the first week of february. you've got the iowa caucus and then the new hampshire primary, coupled in the middle of an impeachment trial. and the president getting the opportunity to address the nation in the middle of it. i mean that week in american politics, you think the last seven days were interesting, buckle up. because that end of january, first week in february could be just, just as quick-moving and fast-paced. >> we'll grab our popcorn. put an asterisk next to president trump's name waiting to see what happens next. this week the president was asked about how he feels about being impeached, if it is technically impeached. here's what he had to say. >> what does it feel like to be the third president in u.s.
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history to be impeached? >> well i don't feel like i'm being impeached. because it's a hoax. it's a set-up. it's a horrible thing they did. >> kristen welker there with the questioning there. talk about the enormity of what has happened. this was a monumental week for many of us. and whether the reality of that has actually set in for this president. >> it was you know, when i was talking to lawmakers from both parties all day. leading up to that vote, in washington, all lawmakers, i mean noted just the enormity of the, of that vote. the third president to ever be impeached. beyond that the president traveling to battle creek, michigan, a battleground state, michigan, a state he was able to carry and defeat hillary clinton by fewer than .5 percentage points in the 2016 race. while that, talk about a study in contrasts for bill clinton took a much more low profile
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approach and you have president trump learning of the vote in real-time at a campaign rally. this is going to be such a fast-paced re-election campaign. that my sources on the trump re-election campaign really wanted to highlight that the president was full steam ahead. in terms of moving forward. and bull-dozing through the impeachment. whether or not it happens on their time table. >> does it feel more like friday night or saturday morning? >> i haven't slept at all this week, i don't even know what time zone i'm in or where i am. but i know that the philadelphia eagles are going to beat the dallas cowboys tomorrow. >> whoa, whoa. >> we'll have to see about that. we'll also have to see if the president mentions -- >> some sort of nastiness. >> you guys are going to have to take your fight -- >> i'm going to the game
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tomorrow. >> thanks, kevin. >> to the next time thank you. the day's other big headlines, president trump in a twitter rant against a christian magazine that called him quote grossly immoral. while also advocating his removal from office. well the president tweeting in response, the fact is, no president has ever done what i have done for evangelicals or religion itself. here's what the editor in chief of "christianity today" told my colleague verbi yesterday. >> we don't like his behaviors, we don't like his morals, but he's doing good things. it's my judgment in the last couple of weeks, that the balancing no longer works. what we're talking about now is someone who is, you know one might say to continue the analogy, a morally abusive in a dangerous way. and it's, the scales don't work any more. it's time for him to leave the house. >> joining us now, ozzie pabara,
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a reporter from "the new york times," why is this notable? >> it shows there's no middle any more. we've seen this time and time again, any arena that he steps into becomes polarized. remember a time where people used to watch football and root for a team rather than whether or not players should be standing or kneeling? places where people have gone to historically sometimes as a respite or just as a place where politics wasn't at the forefront have become places where people express their politics. and this magazine, in their editorial has said that they've held their tongue and have not made politics the forefront of what they've spoken about. with their readers, and when they came out with this editorial, they didn't defend democrats and they didn't dismiss some of the political accomplishments of the president. what they said was in exchange for what he has delivered for
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his followers, there is a cost. and that cost is going to be something that they, the magazine no longer feels is going to be helpful or beneficial to people in the long run. it was a fascinating read. but they do seem to represent a minority within this constituency of the president. >> it was interesting. from i it also begs the question, why does all of this mat centre let's take a look at it. according to the "washington post," the magazine is largely read by elite pastors and according to its publisher, it has paid circulation of just about 90,000 readers, so did the president kind of bring more attention to this than it would have otherwise had? he has 64 million followers on twitter. if you believe the numbers. and this magazine at 90,000. >> well it's not, we haven't seen very much of the president turning the other cheek and ignoring criticism. when he has such strong support
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among this group. anything that activates and energizes them you could argue works for him politically. there's an old saying in politics, any time you're playing defense or explaining, you're losing, but this has given that magazine a stature it probably would have not gotten otherwise. >> it comes to who wrote it and the editorial appears to align itself with democrats on why the president should be impeached. the president attempted to use his political power to coerce a foreign leader. to harass and discredit one of the president's political opponents. it is profoundly immoral. how significant is this? that the publication, which as we've established here is a bit of an outlier, but will we see this happen more broadly? will we start to see maybe more publications kind of within the same realm or groups in the same realm, start to speak out? >> it's unclear if we're going to see more of these
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publications. what i think is going to be fascinate something people are going to be looking at places of worship to see how religious leaders are going to talk about politics, it's getting harder and harder to find place where is people aren't talking about it. the argument that the president made was actually kind of fascinating. it was oddly candid. it was a transactional argument. it was look at what i've given you, you should be loyal and grateful. he didn't say, look at how i've acted. he didn't quote scripture. he didn't say he acts in a way that people of faith would hold in high regard. he sort of made the argument that you would expect someone to make if a union didn't support him or a geographical region or constituency that just received a tax break or something. he made an argument that usually you see with other voting blocs. and faith for people that have it, is very deeply personal to them. it falls outside the boundaries of logic.
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sigts that you have to hold on to despite evidence. and for a president to come in and say i've given you something, i expect something in return, it is a fascinating argument to be making inside a place of religion. >> we've checked all the boxes so far this morning, we've covered football and religion. >> we need another cup of coffee. >> you being a new york football fans. >> 1986 mets. >> not a baseball fan, either. >> remain to be seen -- >> we have some well known mets fans around here. >> thank you so much azi, it will remain to be seen how voters will take this one. let's talk about holiday travel and the trouble that's anticipated right now with more than a third of americans expected to trek out of town into the coming days. >> it's going to be interesting. >> joining us msnbc correspondent morgan chesky, who
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is in the biggest airport in the world, atlanta. what's the situation like down there? >> good morning. interesting good word to describe this rush of holiday travel. it's now upon us for about the next 18 days, the world's busiest airport not too bad at the moment. but it will be changing as anywhere from two to three million americans hit the airports every day this holiday season. that is an increase. and if you're hitting the road, guess what, you can expect to see a lot more people there, too. this morning whether you're packing up the car or bracing to face those long lines at the airport, can you expect a lot of company. >> i'm going back home to jamaica. >> i'm traveling to toronto. >> i'm going to be eventually making it to mississippi for the holidays. >> 115 million americans heading out of town this holiday season, the most on record, 4% more than last year. the majority of travelers hitting the road, drive times on
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the busiest day could double or more during peak hours, cities like san francisco, new york and d.c. in some parts of the country the weather won't help. heavy rain in the weekend forecast delaying flights and making roads dangerous. at the airports today among the busiest of the season. >> on-time departures or on-time arrivals would be my wish for holiday travel for everyone. >> a tip from the tsa, be ready for screening to help lines move smoothly. >> there's a lot more people. you need to have a little more time built in. >> no matter what your trip brings. >> everyone stay in the holiday spirit, be patient. be kind to each other. >> and just arrive with a smile on your face and a positive attitude. >> yeah, arrive with your smile on your face, easier said than done. but not too bad right now. 15 to 30 minutes for the world's busiest airport and we're told that airlines have added more than 800 flights to at least try and keep up with that holiday
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crowd. ke kendis, cory. >> they're still making that money. >> seattle's airport by the way is now allowing people to get past the security area, without a ticket. and so all sort of shopping. >> good to see, morgan that things are going well there in atlanta. good to see you. >> nobody has tackled him yet. >> happy holidays. the president hitting back against house speaker nancy pelosi. with the articles of impeachment in limbo. what's coming next? the search for a missing mom and her newborn baby comes to a tragic end, who is facing charges in the case.
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president trump in florida today, after an historic impeachment. despite an impasse over the senate trial proceedings congress coalesced behind a spending bill package signed by the president last night to avert a shutdown. >> nbc's white house correspondent hans nichols has details. he's joining us from nearby in palm beach. hey, hans. >> the president has started his christmas vacation down here in florida. but not before signing a pair of spending bills. the one for the overall government funding he did with little fanfare, up in the air aboard air force one. he wanted to trumpet the pentagon spending with a signing
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ceremony at joint base and dr drews. president trump signed a bipartisan spending bill avoiding a potential government shutdown. the $1.4 trillion includes $738 billion to fund the pentagon. which the president touted in a signing ceremony before leaving washington for the holidays. >> the highest amount we've ever spent on our military. >> and celebrating the creation of the sixth branch of the armed forces. >> this is a very big and important moment. it's called the space force. >> the legislation also raises the age for buying all tobacco products to 21. avoiding any impeachment talk as he left. the president holding his fire on house speaker nancy pelosi. who hasn't transmitted the articles of impeachment to the senate yet. demanding a fair trial. the president tweeting nancy pelosi is looking for a quid pro quo with the senate.
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why aren't we impeaching her? he did accept her invitation to deliver this state of the union address to congress on february 4. potentially in the middle of his senate trial. with house impeachment prosecutors likely in the audience, along with senate jurors and the chief judge. before starting his christmas vacation -- >> merry christmas. >> the president on the receiving end of an editorial from "christianity today" a leading evangelical publication, calling for trump to be removed from office. and his conduct not only in violation of the constitution, but profoundly immoral. the president responding, branding christianity today a far left magazine. tweeting no president has ever done what i have done for evangelicals. or religion itself. >> the president was active on twitter overnight. impeachment clearly on his mind. he's tweeting it calling it the
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great democratic disgrace, but saying we are winning. guys? >> nbc's hans nichols in florida, west palm beach. thanks. another story we're following this morning, the search for a missing southeast texas mom and her infant daughter. well it has come to a heartbreaking end with one person dead, one alive and a friend arrested. >> 33-year-old heidi broussard's body found in the trunk of a car. her 3 week old daughter found safe. her friend has been charged. we have more on this tragic story from texas. sam, you've been tracking this all week. how did investigators find baby margo? >> it is obviously very disturbing, good morning and it blind-sided heidi's friends and family, they discovered heidi in the trunk of a car on this
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property and just yesterday the cause of death determined to be strangulation. the big push from investigators trying to figure out how the woman who lived in this house, hei heidi's former friend, was involved. a massive search and rescue operation ending on this houston doorstep after a week hunt for heidi and her baby margo. authorities found the three week old infant alive and well but the probe into heidi's death is just getting started. >> multiple teams and investigators that are still investigating this case. >> the latest revelations, jarring. the medical examiner found heidi's death came from strangulation. her place of death, listed as trunk of vehicle. the biggest question, how heidi's friend of 20-plus years, megan ham friday ended up at the center of it all. charged with kidnapping, tampering with a human corpse and now headed to austin to await a court date.
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>> i was disgusted. i was heartbroken. >> one of heidi's closest friends is trying to piece together some odd facts. how humphrey had heidi's baby in her house after humphrey told friends she was pregnant. >> do you believe that the suspect was ever pregnant? >> no, sir, i do not believe she was ever pregnant. >> if she did lie about her pregnancy, why would someone lie about a pregnancy? >> because she wanted the baby. she wanted the baby. >> adding to the mystery, humphrey's baby registry with due date december 1, same as heidi's. >> police declined to answer any questions about motives or where this investigation goes next. as neighbors try to process it. >> it's very upsetting. sorry. just the thought you know. that she's been over there for a week. >> and no murder charges have been filed at this time. although law enforcement officials did leave open the possibility that that could change, specifically investigators said that they were awaiting to find out the cause and manner of death and
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back at 7:30 to your morning headlines, new details in the wrong-way crash death of a teenager in england charges were filed friday against american ann soukulis, the wife of a diplomat. she has been charged with dangerous driving. >> you can hear there, it's just palpable. the family of 19-year-old victim harry dunn react to those charges and that soukulis might be forced to return to the uk to
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face trial. the u.s. state department claims she has diplomatic immunity and cannot be extradited. >> you had one job, let's just dock at the port here in mexico, how did that work out? >> not very well. carnival cruise lines officials are assessing the damage this morning after two of their ships collided at the port in coazume, mexico. carnival glory crashed into carnival legend smashing out windows and bending railings, at least six people were injured. both ships are said to be seaworthy. >> it's amazing no one was killed. >> that's the good news. >> happy to know that. >> take a look at this. there's a manhunt this morning for a purse snatchers in st. paul, minnesota. who ended up dragging a woman. recently released surveillance video showing the suspects coming up behind the victim, she's trying to load the stuff into the trunk of her car, the
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robber grabs her purse, gets into the getaway car but the woman's arm is stuck. i can't even imagine what she went through there. the victim amazingly not seriously hurt. police say this is just one of a string of more than 20 such robberies in that area. and in shopping malls in general at the holidays. >> that's sad. nasa boeing engineers are still trying to figure out what went wrong. with the failed mission to the international space station. boeing's starliner spacecraft was supposed to deliver food, clothing, holiday presents, gifts from santa. but an issue with a mission timing clock put the spacecraft in the wrong orbit. the plan is to bring starliner safely back to earth early sunday morning this was supposed to be a big mission, the next step come next year would have been humans, americans back on board that starliner right there. heading to the international space station.
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the first time since 2011. but we have been able to put up our own people on an american-made aircraft. not going to happen. >> it will be interesting to see if the timeline changes for that. and if santa can't get his sleigh up that high to space. >> that might be a problem. >> important questions this morning at 7:34. more than 140 million americans are expected to storm stores across the country today for last-minute holiday gift shopping. and if you waited until now to start shopping, we have a surprise headline for you -- it could pay off. >> nbc's kathy park joins us now from new york city. so what should shoppers expect, kathy? >> hey, guys, good morning to you. well if you need another reminder, this is the last saturday before christmas, so this is crunch time to get those last-minute gifts, approximately 60% of holiday shoppers waited until today and retailers are ready. stores like target already open
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for business for procrastinators playing catch-up. if you're not done with your holiday shopping yet, you're not alone. nearly 148 million people will be at the store. or logging on for last-minute gifts. making this the biggest shopping day of the year. also known as super saturday. >> it is one of the last full days for people to get their holiday shopping in. >> with fewer shopping days between thanksgiving and christmas this year, procrastinators are feeling the pressure. accord together national retail federation, more than half of holiday shoppers plan to purchase their final gifts this week. >> last-minute trying to find some special items, yeah, not the usual stuff. we thought we would come to new york and knock it all off. >> clothes, toys and gift cards top the list of popular presents. but 25% surveyed said they may look outside of traditional store. planning gifts of experience, like tickets to sporting events
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or concerts. >> it's last-minute so you got to get what you got to get. >> but experts say waiting until now might actually pay off. with many retailers extending hours and offering discounts. on the last saturday before christmas, retailers are looking to stretch the holiday shopping season. while some shoppers say they're ready to wrap it up. >> i'll have everything done by sunday. wrapping on monday and tuesday and relaxing. >> and holiday shoppers will be out in full force even after christmas. according to the national retail federation, nearly 70% of them will be out shopping december 26 through january 1. using those new gift cards and looking for deep discounts, i'll be one of them. back to you. >> so will we, i'm sure. >> i was curious to see who are these people who go to malls any more. i was at a mall in phoenix this past week and even the toy store and aunty ann's even with all of
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those fumes, empty. >> you can't resist auntie ann's. >> no, i love some auntie ann's. >> thanks, kathy, good to see you. happy holidays. now to the impeachment and as lawmakers head home for the holidays, back on capitol hill the two articles of impeachment against president trump hang in limbo. the house speaker nancy pelosi saying she's holding on to them until the senate majority leader, mitch mcconnell, vows to hold a fair trial. >> so -- in your opinion as the president's daughter you're going to hear it here, she's his senior adviser, speaking out on how her father is handling impeachment. >> he's energized. i think he sees it for what it is. which is really just raw partisan politics. >> so is it? well joining us now is the democratic congressman mark visi, from the fort worth, texas area. he voted to impeach the president this week.
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congressman, happy holidays to you, thank you for being here on this saturday morning. so i want to get your reaction to ivanka trump's comments, is this all just raw partisan politics? >> absolutely not. i can tell you this is my fourth term in congress and this was the toughest vote, the toughest decision that, and the saddest decision really that i've had to make as a member of congress to go down into that well, and cast the vote to vote on two articles of impeachment against the president of the united states. i think it's a sad day for the country. it has nothing to do with partisanship what so much. we all need to realize that donald trump curried favor with a foreign nation and offered the military aid, offered them trips to the white house. to investigate his potential political opponent for the 2020 elections. that's just, that's unacceptable. and if hillary rodham clinton were president right now and she were running for re-election, republicans across the country
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would be livid and they would want to do the same thing. >> so we've gotten some opinions on this earlier in our hour here. what do you make of speaker pelosi's move? do you think it's a good idea to hold on to these articles? >> i absolutely think it's a good idea to hold on to these articles. i support her 100%. it's going to be important if the president wants to get this behind him. he needs to tell mitch mcconnell to sit down with chuck schumer, they can sit down wherever they want to. they can go to d.c. or kentucky or new york and they need to work together, on what's fair, so the process will be transparent and so the american public will feel well served throughout this entire process. i think one of the most disturbing things is that the majority leader, mitch mcconnell, has already said that he's going to be working and coordinating with the white house during the impeachment process. and that's just, that's not right. it needs to be independent. it needs to be fair. it needs to be transparent.
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and he needs to work with the minority leader, chuck schumer, to make sure that happens. >> congressman there are a couple of things up in the air right now. i'm curious whether or not democrats, at least at this point, have come to some sort of consensus on who should be named impeachment managers. there was all that talk about justin amash from michigan who is now independent. all of this once the articles are turned over to the republican senate, who do you think should be some of the managers? >> that's going to be determined by leadership. i don't really have an opinion on who should be the manager or not. >> would you support justin amash being one of them? >> i don't know justin well enough to make that determination. but what i will say is that you know in my opinion, it needs to be a fair process. i think when it's all over with, the american public needs to say
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i think all the facts were presented to me in a way that i can understand, clear, transparent. that's the most important thing right now. and on the senate side that's just not happening and i think that's what's more disturbing to me. over who's going to be the manager. >> do you think ultimately that going through this process, when it comes down to it in 2020 in november, this will help or hurt the party? >> i know the president's side of things at the white house, they will be touting their side of things. >> a clear majority of americans actually support the president being impeached. i think the last poll that i saw had it at about 53%. but to me, that's not what's important. what's important is that is that we know the truth about what happened. and that we send a message that whoever the president of the united states happens to be, whether they're democrat or republican, that you cannot trade military aid, you cannot
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say, hey, can you come chill at the white house with me and we'll give you millions of dollars, if you help undermine our election system. it's against everything that the constitution is all about. and at the end of the day, we need to make sure that that message is sent. that this can never, ever happen again. >> hey, congressman, the 7-7 dallas cowboys are facing the 7-7 eagles this weekend. are you willing to bet that the eagles will be able to beat the cowboys? >> no. i'm pretty sure that the cowboys are going to win. we bested the eagles already earlier this season. dak is looking good. i think the running game is picking back up. zeke is eating up some yards, i think we're going to be victorious, but the nfc east has been tough to look at even for my beloved america's team, the dallas cowboys, nfc east has been awful. >> a hot take. >> you know they're looking for a new coach possibly, so -- you can consider the congressman
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mark veasey there to that take over for jason garrett, thank you. remember that, congressman. 22,000 voters now back on the books in georgia after thousands were taken off voter rolls. new information about exactly who was affected, how this affected previous elections, all of it coming up. and what comes next.
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a new look into voters' minds after this week's historic vote that made president trump the third president in u.s. history to be impeached by the house. a new poll shows 52% of americans approve the house's vote to impeach president trump. while only 43% disapprove. >> let's dig into it and bring in nbc's correspondent heidi br preside pryzbila to break it down. >> there's a huge disagreement between the house and the senate about whether there should be witnesses. the senate is signaling that they don't want to hear from
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those witnesses and they won't compel those witnesses. nancy pelosi says look, privately, this is the leverage that they have right now. to demand these witnesses up front, before they send the articles over to the senate where theoretically if republicans stood together in a party line vote, they could all agree to dispense of this trial. without hearing from any witnesses. so right now pelosi wants to hear from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell, a commitment to call some of the people who we know actually have more information. john bolton, for instance, has conveyed through his lawyers, that they have more information. >> after nearly 12 hours of impassioned partisan debate wednesday. >> our nation is founded on the principle that we do not have kings, we have presidents. >> when jesus was falsely accused of treason, pontius
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pilate gave jesus the opportunity to face his accusers, during that sham trial, pontius pilate afforded more rights to jesus than democrats afforded this president. >> donald j. trump is only the third president in u.s. history and the first for inviting foreign influence into u.s. elections. >> article 1 is adopted. >> both articles of impeachment were passed wednesday, largely along party lines, charging president trump with abuse of power and obstruction of congress. the president hold agriculturally in michigan while the votes in washington were being tabulated. >> they have nothing. they're the ones that should be impeached, every one of them. >> the process next moves to the senate. but a trial cannot start until the senate receives the articles passed by the house. and when that happens, is up to the speaker. >> the next thing for us will be when we see the process that is set forth in the senate.
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>> the decision to delay handing over the measures created another partisan showdown. senate leaders met thursday to discuss terms of the trial with no success. >> we remain at an impasse. >> because a new and different set of rules for president trump. >> democrats have controlled the process until now and want to ensure republicans conduct what they consider a fair trial. that includes setting the parameters of opening statements and then calling witnesses who the white house blocked from testify during the house hearings. >> the president's case so weak that none of the president's men can defend him under oath? >> republicans want the senate to first hear both the prosecution and the defense without committing to call witnesses to testify. >> looks like the prosecutors are getting cold feet in front
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of the entire country and second guessing whether they even want to go to trial. >> the senate trial will likely come at a crucial time for the democrats hoping to take on donald trump. at thursday's debate, they stress the importance of a thorough process. >> as a wise judge said, the president is not king in america. the law is king. >> the delay creates the possibility of president trump waiting indefinitely for an acquittal by the senate. congress now in recess until january 7. reporting for nbc news in washington. evidence of one state's vote you are suppression and how it is having an impact on black voters. can anything be done about it?
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according to your algorithm, you found thousands of voters in georgia was affected by this and prevented from casting ballots last year. how did that happen? >> that's right. thanks for having me on. what we looked into was the effect of distance to the polls. basically how far do you have to drive from your house to the poll to cast a vote. that affected people's likelihood to vote. 214 voting places closed down after a decision in 2013 made it possible for states that previously had to get preclearance, basically ask the department of justice for help in making changes. that was struck down. once that happened, a lot more voting changes happened in georgia. namely the presecurity close yours. after the 214 presecurities
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closed, a lot of voters, disproportion natalie black voters were moved further away from the polls. a large percent of black voters were moved away compared to white voters at 20%. with the affect on voter tu turnout, we estimate 54,000 to 85,000 of voters were dissuaded of voting by virtue of their distance to the polls alone. >> question here, stacey abrams lost by 54,000. could this have affected the turnout? >> i have been asked this a lot. she would have had-to-have won at least 62% to have forced a runoff and at least 82% of the vote to have flipped it
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originally. that's not to say this couldn't turn an election. >> you have to assume that margin would have voted for stacey abrams. >> thank you. >> thanks. ahead this morning on "up" michigan congresswoman with comments about her late husband. it's the easiest because it's the cheesiest. kraft. for the win win.
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some christmas themed pastries have made their way to the studio here. >> somehow they are not here. >> that will do it for us at this hour of msnbc live. >> time now for "up with david gura." david, good morning. this is "up." jeff flake directs his colleagues directly saying the president is not the only one on trial, it is also the gop. senate majority leader mitch mcconnell is at ledger heads with the house