car, they process it, there is bad. >> they look so calm and ser no medical bill. reen, though. that's about it. that does it for us tonight. >> they're calm back here, but >> but eliminating the private health insurance industry is kasie herself will be back with once they get out of the chute, big. and the congressional budget you next week and next year from office, for example, they say that it would have a huge impact 7:00 to 9:00 p.m. eastern. they're very mean. >> i think you're wrong about on the economy. for now good night from new now, they don't say it's york. that. >> risk taking is clearly in his negative or positive, but does that concern you at all? this is an msnbc special genes. but he's not alone. >> no, what concerns me is that there are 30 million americans living on the edge just like half a million people go bankrupt a year, that a lot of the folks that i expect that you presentation. him, and i don't riding bulls. health care in america. talk to are living in great i mean going out health it is a bit like a bad x, you anxiety on whether or not they insurance. can afford health care. know the one that never treated >> what is the most dangerous you know what, it's always easy to say, oh, my god, change is you right but you will still part about riding a bull other than anything? coming! every change has a negative to. call in an emergency? even with obamacare, 30 million >> it's not when you are going to get hurt. it is just how bad you hurt. it but medicare for all, americans still don't have guaranteeing to every man, health insurance and many of >> cody got into a wreck. those who do are struggling to woman, and child as a right as exists in every other major pay for it. country on earth is positive. did we not do this right? >> the bull wouldn't come out, and is the right thing to do. what kind of nation claims to so we roped him. >> how much does medicare for keep its citizens safe but has he dripped me over backwards. all cost? no plan for them if they, say, how many iraq wars? i landed on my head, hurt my >> ha-ha. fall off a horse. that is a great question. neck and broke three bones in my >> i'm not your typical wrist, so i went straight to the >> like one and a half? >> that's a hard apples to orange to make. journalist. i've got opinions, and i'm not emergency room. >> how much did that cost you? but here's the more important one. >> as of right now, probably people say medicare for all is

afraid to share them. expensive, but if we maintain this is my journey across about $12,000. the status quo, saying you don't >> can i just ask you how much america to ask the nation one bring in the cost efficiencies simple question: who are we, and you make in a year? that medicare for all, there are >> usually around $40,000. what do we want? estimates out there that we'll okay, two questions. be spending $50 trillion over neither of which is simple. >> that's a huge chunk of my the next ten years for health income. i got to pay it monthly a little this is "red, white & who?" care. bit at a time. so we're already spending far >> being a cow by isn't cody's more than any other country per person on health care. only pre-existing condition. >> i know that taxes will go up. for more than a decade, he was can we just do a very mini role in and out of the er dealing with debilitating pain from play where i am, let's say, the americans say they're more pancreatitis before eventually heiress of a very powerful, worried about health care today getting diagnosed with diabetes. than any other major issue. famous person who likes to golf >> i go to the hospital once, and tweet a lot. >> are you? remember this guy? ten years ago, president obama twice a year to every three >> no. months. >> what did that do to you just for the sake of this -- had a solution, the affordable financially and to your family? >> oh, just for the sake of >> i filed bankruptcy because of care act, also known as argument. why should i pay more in taxes, it. i couldn't keep up with it. let's say more than half of my obamacare, was supposed to help income in taxes? >> just like i'm tapped out. >> i think it's time that we make health insurance more >> i'm tapped out, couldn't told the wealthy in this country affordable. but have you tried to buy it handle it my more. that they're not a world unto >> more than half of uninsured lately? for many it's still kind of a their own. americans are struggling to pay luxury item. their medical bills. three people own more wealth now obamacare is basically on when he declared bankruptcy, than the bottom half of society life-support. >> we will repeal every word of cody had $50,000 of medical so i say to that haires eheires debt. still he chooses to roll the obamacare. >> and voters are taking action. dice and forego health insurance sorry, you're a billionaire, because paying out-of-pocket for >> no cuts to medicaid! his insulin pays less than the you're going to pay more in

taxes. >> what about people who have >> while the part san debate rages on in washington, i want cheapest insurance plan he can retirement funds invested in the private health insurance industry. what happens to them? to understand how the issue of buy. >> so there is nothing more >> you kn health care is playing out in american than being a cowboy? the lives of every day >> no, there's not. >> would you say that not investments in health care or someplace else. insuring a cowboy is some people are free to invest americans. un-american? >> you know, it's just -- i their money and make money and sometimes you win and sometimes so i'm traveling to texas to you lose. but i think as we move toward a meet people who can't afford their medical bills, to utah to don't know how to answer that. medicare for all single-payer, i suspect that some of those >> the discussions about health people will be changing their find out what happens when investment policies. care costs in washington can >> for argument's sake, let's voters rise up and demand more feel hypothetical. health insurance and new york to but when we talk about the say that i like my health insurance. >> good. hear about a plan that would uninsured, we're talking about >> i like the logo, i like the turn the whole system on its real people like cody and his billing system, i like that they head. >> health care coverage for family. after facing financial ruin, play careless whisper when i'm everyone? >> yes. it's a human right, not a cody moved back to the home he on hold with them. >> well, i've got some bad news privilege. >> first up -- grew up in with his parents. for you. like their son, they have spent despite the fact that you love your insurance company and you most of their lives in the rodeo love arguing with them, you'll >> i'm in texas, home to and uninsured. have to find somebody else to barbecue, ted cruz and other argue with. things that aren't good for your >> what were your work-arounds because you'll get all the for not having health insurance? coverage you need. health, like a lack of health >> but the idea that it's going >> we had lots of home remedies. insurance. there are more uninsured people away. >> nobody loves their insurance if you had croup, vicks vapor companies, what they love is the doctors, the care you got in the here than any other state in the nation, a whopping five million hospital, and you'll retain that, and in fact you'll have more chase. under medicare for all, because texans don't have health everybody is in it together, you insurance. that's a lot of people. can go to any doctor you want.

rub. >> we reached out to five of the vicks on everything. my mother would literally eat biggest private health insurance i'm heading tod dayton to visita companies. >> and? vicks. if she had a sore throat, she >> they either rejected our family that's been uninsured for request -- >> they did?! generations. this is cody newman. would take it and lick it, eat >> i'm shocked! >> with a bagel. i offered them a bagel and a vicks. >> they have been relatively pickle on the side. besides being uninsured, he's they rejected my request or they healthy most of their lives, but just didn't respond. in 2007 judy was diagnosed with also a cowboy. why do you think they wouldn't he raises bulls and runs rodeos. a slow growing form of leukemia, give me an interview? is it me? >> so how long have you been a cancer. >> i didn't want to have to tell here? because he was uninsured three >> i'm 46, and i have been here you this, but you've asked the years went by before she was question bluntly, right? all my life. able to get treatment. it is you, actually. my dad, he bulls are very mean, what changed? she turned 65, and qualified for it's your personality, i think. >> wow! medicare, the government's low i have been berned, really. cast health insurance for i think that's the only way to seniors. say it. >> look, these guys have now judy manages her leukemia unlimited amounts of money. and they don't want to talk to you. with chemo pills and frequent what they will do is take hundreds and hundreds and doctor visits. >> when we got on medicare was hundreds and millions of dollars and buy politicians and put ads on televisions, telling the the best thing that ever american people what a great job happened to us health-wise they're doing and spending all their money on research and because judy was stricken with they're working on alzheimer's this leukemia. and cancer, da da da da. they took us because he had that's what you do when you have medicare, because he had some means of paying them. unlimited amounts of money. >> without medicare, would you you don't have to answer hard be dead, judy? questions. >> has anything happened in your >> yes, quick. personal life that has made you

quick. if i couldn't go to the hospital, ye so passionate about health care? >> i grew up in a family that did not have a lot of money, period. so a lot of my political views that's probably why it's so are shaped by the fact that my expensive. it costs $750 billion in 2018 family lived paycheck to paycheck. health care was one issue, but there were many other issues. >> i know that your mother and alone. in the past, republicans have father died when they were fairly young, when you were proposed major cuts to the fairly young. program, even though >> yeah. >> would it be fair to say that conservative voters like mutt that has something to do with what drives you now? and judy say they don't want >> i think it's one of many anyone touching medicare if it's factors, yes. going to affect them. >> you don't like to make it but what about their son cody? personal. he's only in his 40s, and his >> no, i don't. it's not about me. medical bills are coming at him it's about so many other people who are hurting, in some cases, faster than a charging bull. which makes me wonder, how do dying, because they cannot afford the health care which most americans under 65 get should be a basic american right. it's about everybody in this health insurance? >> more than half get it through country having the right to go to a doctor when they need to. their jobs. they're the lucky ones. a lot qualify for medicare, a >> no matter what you think of government insurance program for medicare for all, it's clear to the neediest. me that something's got to give. less common, buying insurance on your own like through the from cody and his medical bills obamacare marketplace, to the rv campers fighting cancer to sandra and her son. healthcare.gov or getting some it's not just that health care other form of government in america is really complicated or too expensive, it's not

insurance like through the military. working for us because it's >> that leaves a good chunk of profiting off of our sickness. americans riding bare back. and whether you live or die these uninsured people often end could depend on which state you happen to be born into, and up in the emergency room because they won't be turned away, even whether or not legislators in that state happen to be listening to voters. if they can't afford to pay. change is definitely coming, but everything from the smallest fix to a complete overhaul of the system isn't going to happen i want some medical advice on without a fight. so it's easy to get cynical. all this, so i'm at a barbecue but it's important to remember spot in houston to talk to a who politicians ultimately work doctor. >> oh, my word. >> and he is not what i for. us. expected. >> you have your insurance card. so do i. does that mean that we are made in the shade? we're cool. we can eat this brisket? she mainly comes in dreams. >> yes. and it's so real, it feels like >> no. >> mark hernandez road here from her. austin where he's the chief and she'll just give me a hug. why did it have to happen to our doctor of a nonprofit that cares for more than 100,000 uninsured family? why'd it have to happen to

patients a year. >> when i think of an er, i think this person is in need of desperate immediate care. >> you are right in some ways and wrong in others. a lot of meem copeople come to hospital because they don't have access to health care anywhere else. the problem is with people that have chronic illness, it leads them to end up in a state where it's now become an emergency. now, if you are poor and without insurance, the hospital says, well, we don't get any money back for that. they're going to eat some of it. who are they passing it on to? all the patients in that hospital who have insurance. >> so people with insurance are essentially footing the bill for the people who don't have insurance? >> right. >> how would you diagnose our health care system in america? >> the system is not designed, in my opinion, to actually create the outcome that you are coming to the system for, which is i want to maintain my health. >> what's it designed for? >> to turn money.

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bank accounts to cover their health care costs. to find out how real that gets, i'm down the road from the largest medical complex in the world and one of the best cancer hospitals in the country, md anderson. i'm here at south main treatmed anderson and other hospitals nearby. they come here from all other the state and the country. i'm going to talk to some of the residents and see what they're going through. the campers in this group have uprooted their lives to get the best possible health care treatment. they have insurance, but their medical costs are still draining their savings. so they say here because it is cheeper than a hotel. >> we can't drink alcohol. we can't have sugars. so i'm bringing a -- you are what's wrong with kale, cucumber and parsely?

all right. >> how often are y'all going to and from md anderson? you're laughing. >> we live there. >> yeah. i mean sometimes five days a week. sometimes once a week. those days can be one hour or they can be 16 hours. >> right. >> this is larry and his wife nancy. they met working at a hospital pharmacy and have been married for more than three decades. but since 2018, they have been living in the rv park so nancy can get treatment for blood cancer. >> she was diagnosed in april, and then june 1st i was diagnosed with prostate cancer, so we have been through this journey together taking care of each other. her cancer is much worse than mine. >> part of my treatment was having a stem cell transplant. i ended up 51 days in the hospital. >> all of these treatments are very, very pricey. so i want to ask you about

insurance. >> i'm on affordable care. she's on medicare. >> tell them what the deductible is. >> this year my deductible was $6,000. my max out-of-pocket was 7,9$7,. with cancer, $7,900 goes in a heartbeat. >> they are texas transpla is b they hadn't sold their home and moved into an rv, they wouldn't be able to pay for the treatment he's getting today. >> what have the bills been like? total what's the cost? >> i have no idea. i just pay them. i do know that it took all of our resources the first time. >> what do you mean by that? >> $200,000 into it? and it took all your resources, so savings? >> yes. >> savings and 401(k)s and all of that.

most of it is gone. but i'd do it again. he's alive. and we had friends that chose not to come to md, and they're all gone. >> and you can't take it with you. that is very true. >> do you think that americans should have to go bankrupt just to get better? >> no. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> no. >> medical services shouldn't be free either. >> oh, no, no. and there is a balance. people shouldn't have to go broke. but, yeah, we live in a broken world. >> what are your thoughts on folks that weren't so lucky. >> two of my partners retired. they died. >> and they're no longer here, yeah. were they not able to afford their care. >> they couldn't afford to come here. >> don't know if they couldn't

afford it or chose not to come. it is not just finances because no matter where you are at, the cost of medical is still high. >> i'm hearing so many stories, which is that a lot of it is about having someone and/or your own stubbornness to just navigaze of bureaucracy and bills. >> it is also a job. i retired, but i feel like i have a job. we have a $14,000 bill for a stem cell transplant. i called them up and they said, wait a minute, whoever put your stem cell bill in didn't link your medicare. i hear the keys, and he goes, it's gone. but somebody might have just -- >> paid it. >> paid it. >> forget about retirement, these people are spending their life savings just for the chance to stay alive. and, remember, they have insurance. in the park's prayer garden, i meet up with the resident pastor to ask how a man of faith makes

sense of something so unholy. >> have you ever prayed for the health care system? >> yes. i believe that if we want to see a change, a difference in it, i believe that you have to pray about some things. >> pastor hill is uninsured. his wife was diagnosed with a serious heart condition in 2018, and he stopped working to take care of her. >> how long have you been without health insurance? >> i have been without health insurance for i would say probably about a year and a half. >> okay. do you know if you qualify for medica medicaid? >> i believe they went off my last year of earnings. >> sure. >> you know, and said that i made too much. >> right, you know. >> and i'm unemployed, you know. i can't get health insurance. so what am i to do? what did you put down that was too much? >> it had to be around $24,000,

$23,000. >> that's not that much, sir. >> for a year, yeah. >> i asked pastor hill about medicaid because it is health insurance for those that can't afford to buy it, low income americans with families with children and disabled. texas could choose to expand medicaid so pastor hill and many others would qualify. >> state's could make medicaid available to more people and the federal government covers 90% of the cost. expanding medicaid actually saves states money in the long run. but texas lawmakers don't want to pay for more government insurance even if they only have to pick up 10% of the tab. remember dr. hernandez? he broke it down for me. >> do you know how many people would have been insured under expanded medicaid in texas? >> if we turned medicaid on today, a million people would immediately have it. and strangely enough more and more republican states are

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-i do. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive. i'm here in utah, home to unbelievably nice views and unbelievably nice people who in 2018 voted to expand medicaid. what does that mean exactly? we know that medicaid is health care for some of the most vulnerable low-income americans, including families with children, the disabled. states can expand medicaid to make it available to even more people. and the federal government could fit most of the bill. seems like a no-brainer, right? but in 17 red states, republican lawmakers said no thanks to more medica medicaid, including utah. that's until the 2018 midterms

when voters went on the offense. in utah and two other red states, citizens collected enough signatures to put medicaid expansion on their ballots. and guess what? it passed in all three. in utah, that means about 150,000 people would newly qualify for medicaid. i'm at the state capital to meet with the utah health policy project, a key organizer who has worked for years to make expansion happen here. >> this is i would argue the reddest state in the country if you look at all the elected positions and the makeup of the people, and they just voted on a tax increase to help poor people, government health care. >> that is dangerous if you are a republican. >> the people's proposition would be in effect now if it weren't for what the republican legislature did next. >> we passed a ballot initiative to expand medicaid fully, cleanly, pay for it. people's will, how can you argue

with that? >> right. >> the legislature didn't like it. i'm paraphrasing a little bit. but the legislature said that's our job. we want to go in there and change this plan. >> let us handle democracy, people. >> yeah. the republican party is not shy about saying this. they don't believe the government should be involved in providing health care to anyone. >> they ignored the ballot proposition and instead passed their own limited version of medicaid expansion. under the republican law, about 60,000 fewer people would qualify for medicaid. and there is a catch. utah still wants the federal government to pay for 90% of its expansion, even though that's only provided to states that expand fully. so utah needs to ask the trump administration for special permission to get full funding. >> it is incredible to see this is what happens when citizens take action, that they're struck

down and then bludgeoned with bureaucracy that ultimately is going to hurt their cause. i'm meeting up with matt's colleagues, courtney and stacy to understand the politics at play when lawmakers deny the will of the voters who elected them in the first place. >> you guys must be ecstatic about passing medicaid expansion. >> we were for, what was it maybe, three hours? >> yeah. well, it was a few days before we started hearing talk about some things happening within the legislature. >> rumors of small changes at first, and then suddenly it was talking about completely repealing it. we had a rally against repeal, begging them not to do what they did. >> this is from people who came to the rally?

>> sat and filled them out will. >> medicaid saved us when my dad was out of work. please help us by expanding medicaid. that doesn't pull on your heart strings a little bit. >> i write this as a registered republican. this act by legislatures is the very reason all of you need to be voted out. >> this is the people's will and you should not be able to change it. >> was the ballot measure sort of a revolt from utah against their own legislatures basically tired of them not acting on medicaid expansion? >> i'd say it was a reaction. >> yeah. i mean, it was done not because they wanted to like spite the legislature. it was done because utah wants this. utah needs this. i mean, people are dying because we don't have this. >> do you think that health care should be a right in america? >> i think people hear in that phrase what they want to. we believe in access and like

actual access for everybody, being able to go to the doctor and get the care you need. >> having access to health care is very different than having health care. in the way that i think of it is, you know, i have access to ryan gosling, but i'm never getting past security to get to him. >> and we're trying to tear down security. >> right. >> so what do republican lawmakers here have to say about why they denied an estimated 60,0 0 people the chance to get medicaid when it is what the voters wanted? i'm going back to the capital to ask a state rep just that. and later i'm talking to the man behind the plan to give insurance to every american. >> guaranteeing health care to every man, woman and child is the right thing to do. the right thing to do. you need. i love you! only pay for what you need.

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john lewis announced tonight he will be undergoing treatment for stage four pancreatic cancer. doctors discovered the advanced cancer, but lewis says he is not giving up hope. lewis's office says he is clear eyed about the prognosis, but doctors tell him because of medical advances he has a fighting chance. the civil rights icon said, i have been in some kind of fight for quality nearly all my entire life. i have never faced a fight quite like the one i have now. the congressman, who has represented georgia's fifth district since 1987 says he plans to return to capitol hill and continue his work while being treated over the next few weeks. his legacy began as the youngest speaker in the march on washington in 1963. now lewis is among the last voices of his generation of activists in congress. for now, back to "red, white & who?"

here in utah, voters for crystal clear. but state representatives said nope and enacted their own more limited law that would expand medicaid to about 60,000 fewer people. what do they have to say about what they did? norm is a health economist and a republican state rep, and he opposed full medicaid expansion. >> why would you be against medicaid expansion in utah? >> that moves too many people out of the market based system into a government system. let me tell you a little bit about that government program. we have provider shortages. we also have problems with funding. every year we're up here saying do we have enough money to pay for that? sometimes we have to cut benefits. >> your citizens passed proposition three, 53% or more of your district specifically. >> yes. >> yet you don't support that.

subverting the will of the people, some would call it antidemocratic. >> i don't like that term. >> we're doing a slow build, identifying the most vulnerable populations and saying, can we afford that. not only can we afford that today. can we guarantee we will be able to afford that forever because when you start putting people on medicaid, this has to be a long-term commitment. >> but under obamacare, if you expand medicare, you get 90% covered by the federal government. >> so people say that's a very small number. that's a tiny amount of money until you look at what that does to our budgets. it's 10% added on to an already strained budget. >> even though the people voted for this, they don't really know what they're talking about? >> no. they understand the concept. what gets lost are these really complicated details, which are

how do you structure the program, how do you pay for it? there is a lot of stuff in there. >> isn't that your job? >> that's right. it's our job to figure it out. >> isn't our job to say, great, we will figure out how to pay for this. >> and supporting things that if it were up to me i would probably not support. but i'm trying to do my best to implement the voters in my district and get something going. >> get something going or stop it in its tracks? either way, he is a die hard free marketer, who isn't inclined to think that more government insurance is the answer to our health care problems. and the republican party tends to agree. but what do utah who want medicaid think about how it went down? i'm making a house call to a voter who said yes to medicaid expansion. this is chris. luckily i caught him on a good day. but there have been plenty of bad ones. >> oh, my gosh!

>> here's chris in an emergency back back in 2012, passing his very first kidney stone. >> did they say they could give me some more morphine. >> it hasn't kicked in yet. >> seven years later, chris is still dealing with kidney stones and he hasn't had consistent health insurance to get to the bottom of his issue. right now chris is uninsured. he lost his insurance when he lost his job for missing too many workdays because he was busy passing too many stones. >> how many kidney stones have you actually passed? >> it's probably been about a dozen. >> my gosh. but i have only caught a couple of them. so i have filtered -- >> you filtered your pee? >> yeah, uh-huh. do you want to see it? >> you have them? you got to keep them? >> yeah, yeah. there you go. >> well, hey, little fellas. one of them is huge!

chris can't anticipate when he's going to be feeling okay like today or feeling like this. >> gosh! he's spending a lot of time just trying to figure out whether he qualifies for medicaid under the republicans limited expansion. he has a message for the state lawmakers who haven't made it easy for him to get coverage. >> have some heart. people do benefit from this. and if you think that they don't deserve health care, like there is something missing here. >> so you are saying they need a ct scan of their hearts. >> they should get a ct scan of their hearts to see if there is anything in there. this is a moral issue. >> i'm not going to lie. i left you day feeling pretty bummed. not just about our health care system but about democracy. then a few months later, something unexpected happened. the trump administration told utah it is not paying for 90% of its limited expansion unless the state goes all in and expands

fully, which is what voters wanted in the first place. that means they will eventually get full expansion because it is part of a fall back plan the state built into its law. i'm calling courtney to get the low down. >> they have to fully expand eventually, so we're closer. we're still encouraging our legislature and the governor to expand now and not wait any longer and pay more than we have to. >> so where does all this leave utah and what you guys are paying? >> utah right now is continuing to pay three times as much to cover less people, and the department of health reported that amount to be about 2$2.5 million extra per month. we are paying millions extra to not give people health care. we really are doing that in utah. >> like an early christmas present on december 23rd, the federal government approved full medicaid expansion in utah. but with prohibitive work requirements. now i'm going to a state where

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private insurance in the state with a single public program. the people handing out flyers today are doctors. >> there would be no more out of network. >> everyone is your network. >> exactly. >> medical students. >> i don't think they will survive or to thrive should be determined by how much money you have in your wallet. >> small business owners. >> our staff that we have trained and gotten up to speed will sometimes leave they got a better job with benefits. >> even young new yorkers. >> can you read me your sign? >> i support the new york health act because so many people are hurt and sick but cannot get better because they don't have insurance. >> under the new york health act, nobody would be uninsured. all 20 million people in the state would get the same health coverage, and it would be funded in part by a progressive income tax meaning the wealthy pay more. a lot of demonstrators here actually have health insurance like this manhattan mother whose

child is battling a serious disease. >> i believe deeply in reasonable health care as a right, not something reserved for a handful of people that can pay their way out of a broken system. >> eight years ago, sandra and her husband woke up to their almost three-year-old son having a seizure. he lost the ability to walk and talk and is required around the clock care ever since. >> he has an auto immune even recei. this was completely unpredictable. while my son was in the hospital, i was 100% focussed on his survival and nothing else. >> yeah. >> once we got home, it was basically my full-time job to try to figure out this pile of bills and the collections threats. >> and this was all with insurance. >> well, all with insurance and with relatively speaking very good insurance. look, we lived in acute

inpatient rehab facility during the course of this for ten months, right? we were with people who had been in car accidents, who were victims of gun violence, who had a tree branch fall on them randomly. anything could happen to any one of us at any time, and we should organize our health care system as if that were the case. >> instead of, not going to happen to me. >> assuming that just bad things happen. sometimes it's very random and rare and i'm really sorry it happened to you and do a gofundme campaign to get all the things you need, right? like gofundme is not health care. >> sandra has a point. one-third of gofundme donations are for health care related costs. >> universal health care. >> and that doesn't sit well with new york's longest serve i ing. he wrote the new york health act, which isn't exactly new. he first proposed the legislation 28 years ago in

1992. >> assemblyman, you have been working on this issue so long that your face is on the flyer. >> yes. >> state senator is the bill's co-sponsor. >> like, you can pick a random person in this corner, and they will tell you a horror story about the current health care system in the state of new york and in the country. >> we did that. >> that tells you if you fight it in public, we win because but know how the system is broken and we're offering a solution to that. >> i have tons of questions for you guys. can we talk more? >> yes. >> the new york health act has passed in the state assembly five times, but never in the republican controlled state senate. now for the first time in a decade, democrats have the majority in both houses. so the bill has a real shot at passing. >> i have been traveling around the country, and i have seen worse states than yours. new york looks pretty good from the outside. why do you need more? >> 95% of new yorkers have some kind of health coverage. but the problem is that millions

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here in new york city, the people's revolution doesn't stop at health care for all new yorkers. >> people are coming in, they're dying because they don't have coverage. >> they want to go even bigger. health care for all americans. and they believe the way to get it is through a plan called medicare for all.

what is medicare for all? there's no exact definition, because it doesn't exist yet, but the basic idea of the two proposals in congress is that the government runs one national health care program. and everybody's on it. private insurance companies are pretty much put out of business and doctors, hospitals, and pharmacists bill uncle sam. co-pays, premiums, and deductibles would mostly disappear. but nothing in life is free. the government needs money to pay for all of that care, which means side effects could include, a payroll tax, an income tax, a progressive income tax, a tax on the wealthy, a tax on the extremely wealth, and imposing fees on government institutions and the government may finally be able to negotiate deals with pharmaceutical companies and i'm hoping that means they haveless mon less mo kmeshls th commercials that sound like this. to learn more about what medicare for all could look like in america, i'm grabbing a bagel with the new york native who put it on the map. senator and democratic presidential candidate, bernie

sanders. medicare for all. there are 329 million americans, right? there's a lot of us. let's say it passes. what does it look like? >> you're going to get a new card. >> okay. >> it will probably say, medicare for all. probably have your name, maybe your addre, give your doctor th