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welcome back. that wraps up this hour. coming up, my friend and colleague jeff bgeoff bennett. how was your night? >> i set an alarm to wake up at 11:55 to properly ring in 2020. >> and that is better than me. i fell asleep on the couch. what is your resolution? >> people will never believe that we used to be cool at some point. >> i was neff cool. never actually cool. what is your resolution? i want to know. >> i don't make resolutions anymore because i have a hard time keeping them. i'd say to be more present. because the work is all
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consuming, so when i'm home, just be at home and not think about work. >> mine is sleep. and always tossing to you. >> sounds good. good morning and happy new year. i'm geoff bennett in washington. right now hundreds of u.s. soldiers are making their way to iraq where a highly volatile situation threatens to get worse. for a second straight day, pro iranian protestors swarmed the u.s. embassy. and the latest on the u.s. military response and what president trump is saying about it. plus it is only the first day of the year, but it will surely be one of the biggest stories of 2020. the looming trump impeachment trial. the defiant new comments from the president and a preview of what we can expect once the senate reconvenes in just days. and now officially an election year. how the candidates are
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sharpening their messages before the iowa caucuses. and we begin with breaking news out of iraq. the u.s. is on high alert for a second day as protestors remain outside the u.s. embassy in baghdad a day after thousands of iranian backed xwlglo demonstra stormed the embassy. this is unfolding as defense secretary mark esper announced tuesday that the administration is sending 750 troops to the region. president trump is blaming iran for the attack on the u.s. embassy and last night at mar-a-lago praised the response by the marines. >> i think that it has been handled very well. marines came in, we had some great warriors come in and do a fantastic job. they were there instantaneously. i used the word immediately. they came immediately.
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and it is in great shape. this will not be a benghazi. benghazi 1450 nevshould never h handed. this will never be a benghazi. >> and joining me is hans nichols who is in florida. and also ali arouzi. what is the situation on the ground right now? >> well still a fluid situation but perhaps not as volatile as it was at its peak. but mobs camped outside of the gates of the embassy overnight. and tho this morning more crowds arrived to join them. and u.s. marines were forced to fire tear gas again to push back the protestors who had lit fires on the roof of the reception area, they used make shift ramps to scale the walls. but geoff, just moments ago the
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umbrella group in charge of the shia militia in iraq issued a statement asking protestors to leave the area and respect the iraqi government. i've been watching the videos thorn a this morning and there is no sign of them retreating, but they have issued that statement which may be an indication that this could fizzle out. no guarantees obviously. but the u.s. is not taking any chances. the defense department announced that it is beefing up its presence at the compound. the defense secretary mark esper said that he would immediately deploy an infantry battalion of 750 soldiers from the 82nd airborne division to the middle east. also important to point out that the 82nd airborne is a rapid response unit meaning that somebody in the u.s. government is assuming that there is a potential for escalation and wants to respond with substantial force if needed.
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and also as you mentioned, president trump is blaming iran for the attack, threatening them in a tweet last night, iran is denying any involvement and is also lashing out. iran's supreme leader criticized the u.s. air strikes on the iraqi militia. and he accused the u.s. of taking revenge on iran and its allies for the defeat of isis which thhe says is an american creation and condemned the u.s. wickedness and warned the u.s. against any mistakes and said if iran was threatened, it would strike back strongly and without notice. >> and president trump is in mar-a-lago saying that the situation was handled well. and what else are we hearing from the president and from folks at the white house? >> reporter: really two ways. one the president's tweets which
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we've grown used to, but pretty hot rhetoric saying that it is not a warning, it is a threat. and the president squarely laying the blame for this on the leadership in tehran. but the other thing is the optics and the attention that they are drawing to things like dispatching battalion from the 82nd airborne. whenever the united states military does that, when the pentagon does that, they know that they are sending a signal, a strategic signal to not just the iranians but everyone else that the united states and this administration is serious about the threat and they stand ready. a couple other things i've watched. there is an aircraft carrier in the north arabi rain arabian se. that is another strategic signal. and also a unit is make its way toward the eastern mediterranean.
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any announcements about that is an indication that the u.s. is preparing what the president hinted at. >> and mike pompeo was talking about whether the u.s. was surprised by what happened at the embassy. let's take a listen. . >> we've known for a long time that there was this risk. 40 years that iran has been at this. and we've watched them continue to take actions, we saw them take actions that killed an american in iraq just this past week. we saw the united states act de si sis s decisively to respond to that when american lives are at stake. >> so hans, pompeo didn't answer the question directly, but to what degree due do you think the
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white house and pentagon were caught off guard? >> they have always been aware of the threat. there is a hot bed of shia extre extremism. and most u.s. embassies post 1998 have essentially turned in to fortresses. and baghdad is probably the best example of that. it has layers upon layers of security. baghdad in some ways is more secure because you have right next to it the head of what is called the combined joint task force and a lot of firepower. some of those bases are bases where all the soldiers from generals to soldiers are carrying firearms. and so they can survive blasts. and there a limit to how far you put the security perimeter, but they are pretty well fort fifie.
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>> all right. thanks to both of you. joining me know, a senior vorenr adviser and now a professor. and that embassy is a symbol of the u.s. presence this iraq. do you think that the administration fully planned for all of the unintended consequences that would come after that authorization of force this past weekend? >> i don't think so. otherwise it would not have bleached the reception area and set it on fire. i think what the administration didn't count on at all was iraqi nationalism. they may have thought about a terrorist attack, iraqi attack, some kind of iranian response, but they didn't really think that if you attack an iraqi
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base, kilt irbas base, kill iraqis, don't try to do it under an iraqi umbrella, that iraqis would not find it a violation of their sovereignty. and continuously saying that this is an iranian backed mob which is it is misses the point that there is a are there are that are mad. >> and the trump administration has made clear that if a u.s. soldier or service member or in this case a contractors is killed by iran or iranian backed militia, that they will respond. so they set a clear line and they an bided by it. >> but the problem is that he thought that he can brow beat the iranians anytime that he wants and he won't get a
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response. and the iranians are also saying that we can also respond. this time it might not be a benghazi, but it might be a again gaz benghazi in september right after the elections. this president called it a fool's air rarntfool fool's errands and they are sending the signal that the path that is he going will end him up in a war, does he really want that. and you can see trump is struggling with that. he wants to be tough on iran, but he really doesn't want to go to war with iran and he has check mated himself. >> and president trump as you say he likes to talk tough. yesterday he said that iran will be held fully sponresponsible. but how does he negotiate between a strong front and not being drawn into this tinderbox. >> he is not.
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his entire policy toward iran is based on false assumption that we'll put sanctions on them, they will be a sosh absorb it a will surrender. but iranians are not playing to his expectations. he doesn't have a plan b. he doesn't know how to get to the table with them. so periodically the iranians pinprick him and then he has to talk tough and every time he is coming closer to a war and if he ends up in a war in the middle east, it will be much worse for the united states. 80 million people which is orders of magnitude more difficult. and i don't think that we want another $5 trillion war with hundreds of soldier, but that is where trunch is he where trump is heading. so he has to find a way to the negotiating table. and iranians want some kind of a
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sanctions relief in which change for to behaving better. and trump has not found a way to get there.change to behaving better. and trump has not found a way to get there. he doesn't want to seam weem we. >> all right. thank you. and there is a new round of threats from north korea, kim jung-un announcing plans to introduce a nstrategic weapon hours before 2450esz commenthesm president trump. >> he likes me, we get along, we're representing our country. we have to do what we have to do. >> and momorgan chesky is with . what else do we have to start 2020? >> it seems to be the same kichl. today he made ambiguous and ominous announcements
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regardinging tregarding the nuclear arsenal. he says that he will seen rewe'll have a new weapon, but he also talked about a shocking action. he didn't elaborate, but strategic weapons usually refer to something capable of delivering a nuclear pay load such as an i skrchcbm. and it had performed two tests at its launch site. and kim's announcement is a direct blow to diplomatic efforts from his administration. the north korean leader describing the pressure is to nuclear disarm as, quote, gang t ter-like. at the party in mar-a-lago, the president described the relationship as you heard, he likes me, i like him, we get along. and he did add that kim did
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agree to denuclearize and we'll find out if he is a man of his word. >> all right. coming up, what the president is saying about the next phase of 350e789 proceedings. saying about the next phase of 350e789 preeocdings. what are you doing back there, junior?
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it is a disgrace. and nancy pelosi should be ashamed of herself. she is a highly overrated person. i know her well. she is highly overrated. that was president trump at his new year's eve celebration in mar-a-lago with a small sample of what we can expect from the white house and trump allies as the impeachment shifts to the senate. joining me now is harry litman and also olivia beavers and chuck rosenberg. o olivia, we are finally coming to the end of the impeachment purgatory. congress is coming back next weekend we expect that the house speaker will transmit the articles of impeachment, she will name the house managers and
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then it kicks to the senate. we've seen democrats try to ramp up pressure on the republican senators, those up for re-election. and we've seen senator collins and murkowski send ting the quarning shquarn i warning shots to mcconnell. >> and like you said, you have four who are going after mcconnell. right now if i would have to bet, they don't have the votes. they don't think that gardner will flip, at least my republican sources that i've talked -- collins left the door open. so you are seeing that democrats might be making leeway there. >> and chuck, if the senate trial comes and goes with no witnesses, president trump will try to campaign as the exonerated, acquitted president.
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can he really say that if this is a two week trial where the house managers present the case, and that is the end of it? >> he can say just about anything. whether or not it is true is a different matter. when i was a federal prosecutor, if a jury were to acquit somebody, and that happens on occasion, they don't make a finding of innocent, just a finding of not guilty. he can claim whatever he wants. remember he also claimed that the mueller report exonerated him. but if i read it, it did anything but. and so what he claims is one thing, what actually happens in the real world is quite another. >> and he wants a trial, at one point he said he wanted live witnesses. what is the risk of that if the president allows people like john bolton and mick mulvaney to come and speak? he says that it will show that he did nothing wrong. all of the evidence that has been amassed to this point points in one direction.
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>> yes, it does. and by the way you had mitch mcconnell saying that there could be embarrassing information were they to testify. the risk is palpable. they will come out and substantiate the whole whistleblower account that resulted in the parlgsz in tart impeachment. and it will look bad because it is the testimony that he has been trying very hard to stone wall. so it could change the dynamic overnight. not in a way that would all of a sudden put a conviction in play, but that would really for the election campaign really establish that basically he was guilty as charged. >> rudy giuliani was also at mar-a-lago last night. he spoke to reporters and said that he wants to prosecute the case. it is not clear that anyone has asked him to join the trump legal team. what is the cost/benefit analysis there? >> well, interesting. i thought 2020 would be the year
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in which he made sense. he is not going to prosecute the case. that would be the job of the house managers. so perhaps he doesn't know what he is talking about. he would obviously like a role in the case. that would be a political calculation that the president would have to make. doesn't make a lot of sense to me however. he has been central to the problem. he would at least be a witness. it looks like he is the subject of a criminal investigation in the southern district of new york and so i'm not sure that i would bring that guy into the senate to represent me if i were the president. >> and we talked earlier about the senators that democrats are trying to pressure to turn the coalition of 47 democrats in to 51 that would allow them to set the parameters for a trial. what about mitt romney? we've talked to mitt romney. and he's said things that aren't in line with the trump playbook so far. but last couple week, he has been radio silent.
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>> and i'm glad that you noticed that. i've had several sources tell me that mcconnell went to him and said that you need to tone down your criticism of the president especially as we enter the weeks and months of impeachment. and he said come to me if you have any other concerns going forward. so this is a sign that he might be putting in the work and saying if you are not on board, talk to me. and so while democrats are trying to lobby these senators to support them, he is on the other side saying no, no, come back. >> when the senate trial does start, you have john roberts the chief justice of the supreme court who will preside. and there was a piece in the new york times where he quoted from roberts' summary and this is what roberts says, he says as the new year begins, we should each resolve to do our best to maintain the public's trust that we are faithfully discharging
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our obligation to equal justice under the law. anyone that you cu you can glea that? >> well, yes and no. i mean, chief justice roberts, he is a very decent, thoughtful, kind, respectful man. and that is the way he talks. he holds up the institution, the article three courts as being a valuable part of our country, of our society. he pushed back before when he said that there is no such thing as obama judges or clinton judges, they are just judge, men and women trying to do their best to deliver just cities. b but the problem, when he preside over the trial, he doesn't control it, the senators do. so we have a thoughtful chief justice, but i'm not sure that it gives him anymore authority in a senate trial. >> and harry, what is your view
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on that? >> it doesn't give him anymore authority, but it telegraphs something. and i you will actually think g he is the residing officer, you only really need three republicans to change the dynamic and put the onus on roberts. and once roberts has made ruling for example to honor a subpoena, it is true 51 can overrule, but it is difficult given his statu stature. so i think he chooses his words carefully and has made some kind of implicit signal to the need for fairness coming up. >> all right. my thanks to the three of you. coming up, power shift. which states could lose congressional states following the census count? and who has the political advantage? man: sneezes
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trai in australia, more tha million celebrated the new year. and bush fires continue to rage throughout australia.
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and intense heat, windy conditions and drought have made the annual fire season which began in september one of the worst. more than 1,000 homes have been destroyed and at least 17 people have died in the wildfires that have raged across the country. and the most of the damage centered in new south wales. officials are blaming it on climate change and they are also demanding action. back here at home as we kick off 2020, shifting populations could mean a shift in political power. new data released by the census bureau projects that number of states could see changes to their congressional delegations after the 2020 census. and the changes have major implications for control of congress and even the electoral college. if house seats were allotted using 2019 estimates, states that bei backed president trump would gain seats and while the seats that went to hillary
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clinton such as california, new york and illinois, they would all lose congressional seats. even former industrial powerhouses like pennsylvania, ohio and michigan will see losses. i want to bring in carlos w corbello. and also victoria, and let start with you, let's put up the projected gains. there are seven states in all, five that voted for trump in 2016 that would pick up seats. and so on balance, it appears that this would help republicans in the presidential elections if the 2012 and 2016 electoral college voting patterns hold. >> right. and the issue though that we need to dig in further is that lot of this has to do with the state legislatures. and in the 2020 election, who is
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going to capture that. because for the most part with few exceptions, it is at the state level in our statehouses such as the one behind me that determine what the lines are going to look like and who is going to have the advantage. so in texas, which is take decision traditionally a republican state, if we get three new seats, republicans will gain strength. however, if the rumors that the state legislature here actually flipped to the democrats, then in that case that gives the advantage to the democrats. so here it is not just the shear numbers, but who is going to be controlling the statehouses come 2020 and when the lines are drawn in 2021 looking to 2022. and that is a great point, it is not just the numbers. you have trends democrats are growing in states like florida, north carolina and texas because they are moving from states like connecticut, new jersey and new
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york. >> that's right. and it really depends where the new districts are located just because the states are red or purple like florida that somewhere gone to republicans in recent years, doesn't mean that it is necessarily going to help republicans. i get the sense that lot of the new districts and states like texas and florida will be suburban districts and republicans have a tough time in american suburbs. so what you can say which i think would be healthy for our democracy is a whole lot of new swing districts in these swing states. and texas is moving towards becoming a purple state. we saw senator cruz win a close election there recently. and so on the surface, yes, it looks like red states are gaining. but for control of the house, it will depend where the districts where located. and as victoria said, who is drawing the districts.
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florida will likely be a republican legislature, may not be the case in other states. but what is most important, this 2020 census count has to be accurate and there has been a lot of debateoff that in the last few months. so we'll see how it plays out this year. >> and that is a good point. this is at the heart of the verse are city when controversy. the trump administration attempted to drop a citizenship question. >> and many would argue myself included that the damage has already been done. so you take folks especially immigrants or folks from immigrant families that fear that if they provide information about their whereabouts, about their family structure, then the government could use that to come after them either toward themselves or their undocumented family members. which means that folks will be less likely to answer the census
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and that has repercussions for how many people are counted for drawing lines. but the huge part here is the federal monies that will be distributed. so texas may get less. and the other part to this, you see an interesting difference in the state strategy. states like texas under governor abbott has said that we are not giving any money to encourage people to fill out the census. other states likeable came cal are throwing tonigs of money at trying to get people to understand the importance of the secensus census. so i think that we will see some interesting variation across states in response from the more vulnerable populations. >> and what is florida doing? >> i think for the most part the census process is going on as it usually does here in florida. and we are getting a lot of
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people from the country and a lot of immigrants as always. but let me give you an important data point that helps explain why florida is gaining -- or likely to gain two districts. it is 65 degrees and low humidity today. as long as that is the case on january 1st, states like florida will continue xwlgrowing. >> can't beat in that. thanks to you both. five weeks from the caucuses, and democrats are starting to mix it up. e starting to mix it up. can my side be firm?
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good the candidates are sharpening their differences with bernie sanders pointing out hoe how he differs with elizabeth warren. and they are looking to perform well in iowa when polls suggest that any of the top four candidates could win the state. and joining me now is vaughn hillyard. and here in d.c., felipe rei ee
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inus. so vaughn, what are people telling you? >> reporter: and we are officially 33 days away from caucus day. it is go time. and of course there a whole other slew of candidates that are still in the ball game, but only five have qualify theed for the january 14th debate here. clo amy klobuchar visited all counties here in iowa. and again, you should begin to see them begin to differentiate themselves. cory booker is trying to tell folks, look, we should be running as a party of opportunity. but you are beginning to see the contrast. pete buttigieg earlier this week broit up jobrought up joe biden
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iraq vote. and so that he is the solution. and i want to play an interview with bernie sanders. bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have largely stayed together. and essentially trying to make the case in tandem to the united states that big bold change like a "green new deal" or medicare for all is possible and that that is what democrats need to push forward. bernie sanders though 33 days out for the first time, i asked him, you know, top line, what would you say your biggest differences are with elizabeth warren. and he hesitated before offering a little glimpse. take a listen. >> one of the major differences is what i have said over and over again, in my first week in office, we will introduce medicare for all single payor program. we expand medicare, we lower the cost of health care.
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senator warren's position is different. check it out. it is quite different than ours. >> reporter: and he is talking about making the indicate that his proposal would make head care for all happen immediately. we should note back in november, you will recall elizabeth warren said that the first step would be to pass legislation to begin by having a medicare public option. and then by the third year essentially eliminating most private insurance. a distinction that bernie sanders is prepared now to point out. >> all right. vaughn hill yar thanks for that. and what do you make of this? >> they are trying to define themselves. and warren and sanders are in the same pond. so our poll, the "wall street journal" nbc poll, she is a 20, he was 17. so they are just feeding on each other. and so they do need to figure
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out a way to like separate from one another. and step ahead of each other. and the buttigieg move is interesting in that the tricky thing with iowa is that with the caucuses, you have a second place, you know, so be nice to one another because you want their people to come over and you become their second choice. so it is interesting that he tried to step it up against biden. >> and what is the upshot of that? there is a risk of attacking the guy that people like. there is a reason that people call joe biden uncle joe. what is the upshot to throw shade at the former vp? >> and you are running the brisk
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brisk risk of landing a punch. but if i start mucki if you can i made make fun of your tie, they will say that he is being -- and bernie doesn't have to go after warren. he is benefiting from watching the field. you don't see him talking about how do you pay for medicare for all. it is his bill. >> he wrote the damn bill. >> and that is a real issue. so it is really unclear as you said, by deb biden's numbers ha rock solid especially among xwla black americans. and his biggest problem is money. and buttigieg has announced his fourth quarter totals which was eye popping $25 million. the biggest difference between him and biden is that biden
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won't have that kind of number. and we'll see if his poll numbers and his money numbers are huge gap. >> and so he raised 25 million in the fourth quarter, pete buttigieg. so this is a huge show of force. >> and a show of force for any democrat. the craziest thing about the last two years is that any race is the most expensive race ever. i don't care if it is a special house race or an off year senate race, governor's race. so the dnc is broke, but the democratic candidate, the nominee, won't lack for funds. because the money is coming in from everywhere. no matter what the race is. >> and yet elizabeth warren has an issue with -- >> right. she would not have asked for money if she doesn't have a problem because it would be clear that she doesn't need to ask. and just so i don't get attacked
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on twitter, bernie's numbers have just been off the charts. he has been raising $26 million for every quarter and got to figure that he will have a big quarter too. might not find out for a couple week, but money is a big deal. and one thing that i would disagree about, they are raising money hand over fist, but they won't keep it. as opposed -- they are spending it on ads and especially if it goes a while whereas donald trump is raising hundreds of millions and he is just -- >> actually donald trump's burn rate is pretty extra ordinary too. >> a lot of facebook ads. and we'll talk about that later. you're killing it out there on the roads. great to see you. new year, new rules. from real i.d.s to hair staleyl the laws you need to know about. yl the laws you need to know about.
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on this first day of 2020, new laws are going into effect all across the country. nbc news justice correspondents pete williams gives us a look at some of the new year's new laws
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that will impact many americans' lives. >> reporter: 2020 brings a security requirement first proposed in the wake of the 9/11 terrorist attacks and delayed year after year. finally, beginning this october, anyone wishing to board an airplane flight must present a real id compliant driver's license or a passport or military id card. the newer licenses all have a star on the upper right-hand corner that show they meet the law's tougher standards. state motor vehicle departments are required to verify each person's records, making it much harder to falsify the most widely used form of identification. >> so go ahead and do it now, while you can. get it done early so you don't have any issues on october 1st. >> as of january 1st, new hampshire allows residence to put x under sex on their driver's licenses. it's for people who don't identify as male or female. it's legal to possess small amounts of marijuana in illinois and michigan, bringing the number of states that allow
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recreational use to 11. nevada cannot refuse to hire someone who tests positive for marijuana. in washington state, parents must put children under two in a rear-facing car seat and children under 4 must use a forward-facing harness seat. >> it gives them an extra boost to keep the seatbelt in the right spot, so right over their shoulder and right over their lap. >> companies in california cannot discriminate against their employees who have racially associated hair styles. supporters of the new law say they were outraged when a referee forced a black wrestler to cut his dread locks or forfeit the match. >> and no more single-use checkout bags in oregon except for fish, meat or taking home the dry cleaning. >> coming up, hope on the ropes, the shocking moment caught outside of the vatican last night. what pope francis is saying
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the pope said nope to an add id dmadmirer outside the vatica. he was greeting pilgrims, waving to the crowd, when a woman reached out and grabbed him by the arm. the pope was visibly angry, even slapping the woman's hand to break himself loose from her
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grip. well, this morning the pope apologized for his response during the traditional prayer at the vatican saying love makes us patient. we often lose our patience, me, too, and i apologize for my bad example last night. that will teach you not to pull on the pope. that wraps up this hour of msnbc live. francisry vera picks up our coverage from new york. >> great to see you, geoff. happy new year. great to see you, happy new year to you at home. i'm francesry vera in new york. right now hundreds of u.s. troops are heading to iraq to try to contain the dangerous situation in baghdad. for a second straight day demonstrators stormed the embassy, causing them to fire tier gas into the crowd. plus president trump kicks off 2020 in a defiant stance as the senate impeachment trial looms. what he's now saying about the impeachment fight as the possibility of witnesses remains up in the air. and the new year comes with a dangerous new warning from north korea.
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what kim jong-un is now saying about what he calls a, quote, strategic new weapon in the near future. we begin with breaking news from iraq. today helicopters carrying marines landed at the u.s. embassy in baghdad. a day after thousands of iranian-backed demonstrators chanting death to america stormed the compound. mark esper announced tuesday that the administration is sending 750 troops to the region. earlier u.s. troops fired tier gas to disperse pro-iranian protesters gathered outside the u.s.'s largest embassy. president trump tweeting that iran will be held fully responsible for the attack on the embassy and iran will pay a very big price. last night at mar-a-lago the president praised the response by the marines at the compound. >> well, i think it's been handle very well. the marines came in, we had some great warriors come in and do a fantastic job. they were there instantaneously, as soon as we heard. i used the word