>> phil rutger, a tool in the tool box is caleading up to a decision. we started back looking at a few macro moments leading up to that and got more detail since. what do we know about the deliberation within the white house to make these strikes in iraq and baghdad and i think a lot of questions about which this administration thought through what might happen next. >> yeah, david, that is a good question. my reporting by my colleagues at "the post" revealed a lot of detail of what went into this decision. his vacation arnound the new yer and he was watching television as protests outside the embassy in baghdad were so colorful and loud and he was fuming about that. getting irritated about that. and was presented a slate of options from his military commanders.

the most extreme, of course, was the assassination that he ultimately decided to initiate. but the president made that decision to go forward. it was a bold choice. it was something that president bush and president obama did not decide to do because it was seen as too provocative. but trump surprised military leaders in choosing to go forward and assassinating the top iranian general and there are disagreements within the administration about how strategic this was. how sort of thought through the next steps might be dealing with the likely retaliation from iran and then what next. it's a bit risky. also, by the way, reporting about some uncertainty about the u.s. intelligence regarding the general. regarding what sort of actions he had been plotting and planning and how serious those were. and that is likely to be the center of a lot of political debate here in washington in the days to come. sort of what exactly was the intelligence that the president was presented before he made that decision and how solid was

it? >> joe, the focus of political debates certainly reporting in these coming days, as well. i'll read a piece from robin wright. ironically, she writes, general soleimani died in the covert operation that he orchestrated against the united states so often for so many years with such deadly success. yet in his statement on the general's death, warrant his departure to god does not end his path or his mission. pick up, if you will, what phil rucker was saying, what might happen as a result of this killing and this assassination? >> confusion and concern because i'm not sure the president knows what is going to happen after this assassination. we have a president who tore up the iran nuclear deal, which made no one safer. it has now enabled iran to continue its nuclear program. we have a president when presented with a slate of options was given this most extreme, possibly reportedly in an effort to make the others seem more reasonable. keep it to the extreme option

based on quote/unquote razor thin evidence. i don't think as phil said that this was a bold move. i think this was an incredibly reckless move. i don't think that there is a gamed out solution to what happens next. and i think this really illustrates the danger of putting somebody like trump in office. i mean, for two and a half, three years, the government has been able to more or less kind of tick along through bad stuff. kids in cages and the muslim ban and those things as devastating they are they are undoable with a democratic president. they're terrible, they're wrong, but they aren't world, fundamentally world altering, this is. this is one of those moments where we see just how dangerous it is to put someone who has no idea what he's doing, who is incredibly reckless, who makes decisions based on fox news into the position of commander in chief of the u.s. military. >> daniella, i'll turn to you on this point.

a perilous turning point. the outcome is more tragic because the solution is so apparent. iran fully restores its compliance with the nuclear deal in return for reprieve from the crushing u.s. sanctions. there had been a plan that had been changed and reduced and altered by this administration. but for so long it was an economic war that the u.s. was waging on iran. >> i think that, you know, to jill's point and i completely agree. what trump did here is absolutely reckless. it does not make americans safe. it actually puts us all in harm's way. he ran his campaignen wi eon withdrawing troops and now sending 4,000 to the middle east. so, here we are. where the president of the united states is doing foreign policy on twitter. we have now, it's just amazing to me that this president was at mar-a-lago and decided to tell all the bigwigs, all his donors there, there is something very big happening in iran but he

couldn't pick up the phone to tell congress that. that he could alert lindsey graham, but not the rest of congress. but he made sure that why? why would he tell the people at mar-a-lago on new year's eve about what was going to happen in iran? was it so they could buy oil futures? what was the point of that? we have to think about the fact that there is no strategy here. he never had any strategy. we know he has always surrounded himself with hawkish people who wanted to eliminate iran. we talk about this country as if it's not a country filled with actual people, right. what did you say? sand and blood. there are actual human beings that are there and we need to think about that when we're talking aboutthe strategies or the lack there of that he is putting in place. >> we have to bring in a congressman for some comment on this, as well. there's no hope of diplomacy continuing within this administration or likely beyond it and now that deal is dead. help us understand what you're thinking for the isolation of

iran and really what it means for what seems likely to be a country who is going to get nuke ler weapons as a result of this. >> when they tore it up they assured us the alternative was not war. it was not military action, at this would be sanctions that would work. they assured us iran was being brought to its knees by working sanctions. the can't both be true that the sanctions were working so wonderfully and also we took this unbelievably highly provocative action. haven't exactly concluded exactly where you guys are. haven't exactly said this is certainly a wrong thing. i just look at the evidence and the habits of mind that he uses and what phil rucker said, what was getting him so upset. he was seeing the images on tv. a drone strike and the killing of a u.s. contractor and not provoked to this point, but when he saw it on tv, that's when he acted and i really worry about the habits of mind that brought him to this point.

>> i'll say good-bye to phil rucker joining us from washington. a new bulletin is out from the national terrorism advisory system. that is something i want to talk about with my next guest, congressman al green. he's a democratic lawmakers and sits on homeland committee and he joins us from houston. i look at that bulletin and what stands out to me, be prepared for suspicious e-mails and network delays. your sense, congressman, of the potential consequences of this as we talk about retaliation and what that might mean. >> thank you, mr. gura. all of the above as you have indicated, but equally as important and, in fact, in my opinion, more importantly we should consider what can happen to american citizens. the climate of hate that this will engender is something that has to be of concern to all of us. this will not de-escalate the climate of hate. and american citizens travel the world over. when the president travels, he's

the most protected person on the planet. when i travel, i have protection. but american citizens, business people as they traverse the planet, they don't have the protection that we have and i'm concerned not only about state actions, but about the actions of the lone wolf. the person who does not have the mental faculties to necessarily process evidence appropriately. i'm concerned about this person and i'm concerned about our people as a traversed planet. >> i want to ask you about the role you're in now as a congressman watching all of this unfold and learning that we have a justification for this was sent to the white house in a wholly classified form. how tied are your hands at this point? you look at the lack of engagement between this administration and the congress and what do you do about it? >> first, we demand as has been done that we get a briefing on this and that we get some of this declassified information presented to us.

but we can also take up legislation to prevent the president from moving forward without an amuf, an authorization to use military force. congress declares war, not the president. he has given the 48-hour notice, insufficient it may be. this president has a might make right, a take no prisoners, never apologize. always double down. build your dreams on the ashes of those you destroyed mentality. with that mentality we have to concern ourselves with what the next move will be and we cannot write off and rationalize that he won't attack shrines and sacred places that can make this an even more pervasive event. my belief is that we can be concerned and we can legislate to protect the american people. >> you are talking there about war crimes, to be sure. let me pivot in the time we have

left. a lot of viewers associate with you with the push for impeachment. you came out in favor of visiting and we saw that clip talking about impeachment a number of times during the hearings on capitol hill. give us your assessment of where things stand at this point. those articles still in the hands of your leader, house speaker nancy pelosi. no indication on when she will hand those over to the senate and all the while and the vacuum that this has created, we have gotten new information from the "new york times" and the site just security, as well. how long does this continue? what indications do you have from leadership for how long it will take for this to play out? >> if you know the truth, the truth will set you free. here's the truth. the first truth is we have to send the articles to the senate. everybody's got to go on record. the ultimate court of public opinion will take place in november. the senate is currently on trial itself. before there is a trial in the senate, there is going to be a trial of the senate.

it's taking place right now. we have to have every senator on record in terms of where they stand on the issue of whether they're going to allow the president to be above the law. the president does not recognize the balance of powers established by the framers. we have to have the senators go on record. are they going to allow the president to be reckless, ruthless and lawless and totally disregard what the house of representatives has been empowered to do constitutionally? and that is to act as a sort as it relates to a president. to let him know that there are certain things that he cannot do. there are boundaries. the president has totally disregarded us by saying that he won't appear. okay. but he won't allow others to appear as part of the administration. he won't allow us to have the evidence that we need to put forward. so, are they going to allow that? are they going to diminish and marginalize the congress of the united states of america? they are on trial. we eventually have to send those

articles of impeachment to the senate so that everybody can go on record. >> the gentleman from the ninth district in the great state of texas, that's congressman al green. thank you for the time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. back to the breaking news i told you about from pennsylvania. highway officials saying at least five people dead in a highway crash in the westbound lanes of i-70 in the mt. pleasant area. first responders on the scene to assist. more than 60 injured in that massive wreck involving a tour bus, two tractor trailers near pittsburgh. an 86-mile stretch of the turnpike has been closed as a result of that crash. here to bring you updates on this story as they become available. stepping into the fray, russia slamming air strikes that killed iranian soleimani grossly violates international law and should be condemned. cory booker is going to join us, next.

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>> other presidents from bush to obama, other nations like israel had chances to do the same kind of strike. but they did not because they understood in the larger context that could create more violence in the region and put more american solar is at risk. we are now in a very dangerous period. more dangerous because of this president. the lack of safety in this region is getting worse under his presence. that's senator cory booker

speaking walterboro, south carolina. a member of the senate committee on foreign relations. we're glad to have him with us on this sunday morning. let me pick up what you were saying. we are in a more dangerous period and we just heard from your colleague in the house of representatives al green talking about his worries about americans traveling abroad. who this could affect. soldiers and members of the military at risk and the ramifications of this are huge. what are you going to take up? what are you going to want to take up when the committee convenes in washington this week? >> i just want to take a larger lens for you for a second. this just didn't start in this moment. this president from the time he has gotten into office and surrounded himself with advisors that really wanted regime change. we had a nuke ler deal leading to something that is just incredible. iran was doing naval exercises with russia and china. we see iranian influence in iraq growing under him and the

capabilities of arming hezbollah and the instability in yemen growing under him. this is a president that has seen that region become more unstable under his leadership and this action, number one, we don't even know if he's had the justification for the use of military force. that is a big thing. we secondly don't know if he thought out the second order and third order consequences with isis and the battle against the emand the xwroeing influence of recent weeks and months of our position in iraq and what was going to happen as a result of that, as well. not to mention the violence that we talked about. there is a lot as i returned to the senate this week that my colleagues and i and the foreign relations committee must begin to discuss and demand the information. even just the intelligence under which he said he operated under. we've seen ourselves dragged into the iraq war under lies, frankly. intelligence that did not prove out to be substantive. >> joe is on set with me here in

new york and talk about things his administration has done reversible under a new president. this is something that is not. how much should we despair. how far down a road we didn't want to go down as a result of this? >> all americans should be very concerned right now when over 3,000 of our men and women, remember, this is a president who took a lot of steps to avoid going to war and now is moving more troops into that region. these are folks from all backgrounds in our country who are willing to stand on the front lines and face the consequences of his decisions and this is the problem. we have seen a drift of war powers since 2001's authorization on use of military force. and this isn't a right or left issue. republican, president, bush, democratic president obama. you've seen the expansion of war presidents now which is undermining our constitutional checks and balances. the difference now the war powers lie in the hands of someone who has shown he has impulse control.

he can't even control himself with a reporter's question or a freshman congress person. he has been doing decisions that counteract his advice of his generals. catch them by surprise. and, so, now, the most powerful military, sophisticated intelligence that can target individuals is in the hands of somebody with impulse control who is shown to be a capricious actor when we need sober, deliberative decisions. this is a crisis. every day that he is commander in chief, this is a crisis for our country that we have someone in there that at a time we need big people who have restraint who are strategic in their thinking. we have a very small man who has impulse control that makes decisions without strategy that put our men and women in this country in greater and greater risk. >> i want to bring in my colleague mike pesca to ask you a question here. let me ask you how this reshapes the campaign. foreign policy in the last few debates. it has been addressed.

but do you expect that to change things now. we heard from you and the other candidates running for the democratic nomination. is this likely to change the course of the campaign and what is being discussed on the campaign trail in iowa and new hampshire, south carolina where were you and other states, as well? >> well, one, i think that everybody is beginning to see the urgency in winning in november. it's going greater. because of the span of issues from the supreme court all the way to the safety and security of this nation. and, so, these are things that i know are pressing. but, obviously, we need someone who is ready to be commander in chief on day one because this president is clearly going to leave this planet in greater levels of crisis. not just from north korea to the middle east, but we also have the crisis of climate change. we have climate denier and our own military is saying this is one of the great national security threats. not just to our nation, but humanity. there are urgencies right now that we need a sober, experienced leader as commander in chief. someone who not only knows foreign policy, but knows, god,

the humility that that office needs that you are making decisions about the safety and the security of this nation every single day. we need deliberative people and thinkers and that is something that is discussed on this campaign trail. >> senator booker acknowledging the unstrategic, the chaotic habits of mind and ways that this president conducts his policy. whose fault is it, though, which branch is to be blamed for the fact that there is no updated aumf. one passed in 2001 and one passed in 2002 and hasn't been touched since then. that seems to me to be congress' doing. the second part of that question is as president, would you direct congress to write up a new one? >> well, first of all, we got to stop. everybody wants to point blame but nobody wants to take responsibility. as the united states senator on the foreign relations committee,

i deal with people on both sides of the aisle on trying to push for a new aumf. there are those who wanted to check the power of president obama in his workings with the saudis and i voted against multiple times things that i felt were crossing the line and not doing things with congressional approval. we have had bipartisan efforts to check this president's use of military force. we have not gotten the job done. as president of the united states, i will. it is dangerous now, we see. it is dangerous now to allow the president of the united states to grow in war powers undermining the checks and balances because you may have a sober, deliberative president like president obama but the next one an unstrategic thinker like president trump. this is about restoring the constitutional checks and balances that we need. and as president of the united states, i will do that. because now americans we have troops all over this planet

ingaui engaging in military activities in what is becoming a forever war that must stop especially because we're spending billions. in fact, trillions of dollars at a time when our infrastructure, public education and health care systems all need investment. >> last question here is about impeachment. i go back to what i heard from congressman green in the last block. every senator needs to get on the record. susan collins the senator from maine spoke with maine public radio expressed some openness to having witnesses at a trial when we get to that point. we heard similar things from lisa murkowski, the senator from alaska. what are you listening for? i'll put a version that i'll ask to congressman green. how does this change? you see the log jam in front of us and the fight with press releases and statements and letters from leadership. one leader to the other. what breaks the log jam, do you think? >> look, this is coming that my dear friend the congressman said it plainly. that this is going to come to the united states senate.

let's not blow this out of proportion. there will be a trial in the united states senate. as a juror, i'm prepared to sit in my seat and do my job. swear an oath to be objective. that is one of the key tests. can the people in that body put patri patriotism before party and listen to the evidence. can we as a senate with a chorus of conviction say we should have a fair trial with irrelevant witnesses there. the president's chief of staff, secretary of state, put them under oath and let them testify to what actually happened. either exonerate this president and bring in the new information that they have or let them tell the truth that could potentially show that this president not only should be impeached, but also removed from office. >> some optimism there from the senator that this could turn into a chorus of conviction. we'll see what happens in the coming weeks as he makes his way to iowa and other states beyond for the democratic nomination. senator cory booker, thank you

very much for the time. >> thank you. still to come, enduring legacy, general soleimani is dead but signs his influence will live on. for the u.s. and safety of the region, an expert on the revolutionary guards will join us next. join us next. ♪ rock music >> man: so i'm not taking any chances when something happens to it. so when my windshield cracked... my friend recommended safelite autoglass. >> tech: hi, i'm adrian. >> man: thanks for coming. >> tech: oh, no problem. >> tech: check it out. >> man: yeah. they came right to me, with expert service where i needed it. that's service i can trust... no matter what i'm hauling. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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this is "up." i'm david gura. what is described as a step towards de-escalation and the trump administration looks to

have backfired. thousands of iranians have taken to the street to mourn soleimani openly to warn that iran's regional behavior is unlikely to stop. our next guest writes in this way general soleimani's influence will survive him. in fact, it may have grown significantly. the united states just killed a powerful figure within powerful circles within the region and he is not the only who wished to see the united states leave the region. a highly symbolic assassination. the problem for the united states is that symbolism has the power to move people to action. where does this leave the u.s. and iran despite a series of tweets warning iran against retaliation. iranian officials made it clear they will retaliate. it's a great piece in "the times" and a point that you make in it, leadership in the revolutionary guards is ad hoc as you put it.

what do you mean by that and what kind of void is left by the general soleimani? >> i think one thing that observers need to understand especially about iran and the irgc in particular is that iranian guard got their experience from the 1980s iraq war. during that war the united states and the west were heavily supplying saddam hussein against the iranians. there they were able to experiment with and they were heavily outarmed in that war. so, because of that, what they began to develop was a way in which their leadership structure was sort of a devolving leadership structure in which it developed in a way that there was ad hoc leadership in the organization. and ten years the research in iran with the revolutionary guards when i was following them around with different activities and especially the media production within the country. what i realized is across all the sectors that they are involved in, there is a very

strong ad hoc leadership structure within the organization. what that means not just one individual who is powerful or the ability to make decisions in the organization or to build relationships, but it's actually many people who can do that. >> joe, it's simplistic and the president seizing upon one individual here but his successor has been named at this point already. your sense of what this means largely just for the conflict itself. >> sure. i mean, as and i'm going to get her name wrong, but this was a symbolic assassination. it's not as though this creates some sort of major power vacuum in iran that cannot be filled and we now have debilitated their military structure. that is not how it works. what this has done is motivated the iranian people to turn away from their protests against the government, which is exactly what the iranian government wants to now possibly, it seems, unite against the great satan, the united states.

it has been strategically idiotic. when you look at our president, what this president loves is symbolism, not strategy. we have not only the symbolic assassination, but we have the presidential tweet threatening these attacks on 52 iranian targets, including cultural sites which is really some like taliban isis kind of move. to represent the 52 hostages in the iran hostage crisis. that does not get us any closer to any sort of military victory. it doesn't get us closer to peace. it's purely symbolic. it will rev up the president's base. but it will do nothing to engender good will to the united states across the world. and, in fact, we'll have the exact opposite effect. people will see this as not strategic. as purely cruel and purely re o retributi retributional. and it's a tremendous, tremendous mistake and it's absolutely terrifying that we have a president who is doing foreign policy via twitter in

this dark and dangerous way. >> we look at this in terms of the two principles iran and the u.s. let's pull back a little bit, you had macron the president of france making calls yesterday urging restraint. lastly, help us understand how this changes things geopolitically and a larger level between europe and iran and russia and china and all these major countries as a result of what happened with this attack. >> right, well, you know, when trump pulled out of the iran nuclear deal that became one of the largest riffs because the europeans have stuck to the iran nuclear deal which by this point may be over with. this killing of soleimani is going to only continue to heighten tensions between the counterparts in europe and the united states because this increases the possibilities of

further tensions and conflicts in the region. you just have to look at the ways in which there were huge crowds in iran today in mashhad and tomorrow the funeral possession goes into tehran. these are crowds that the islamic republic's cultural producers could have only dreamed of. and these crowds were unthinkable even a week ago in iran where people were extremely angry for the way it clamped down on protesters in such a violent way in november. so what trump has done by first of all killing soleimani is to, you know, rally transnational shia community and secondly with his tweets last night about targeting iranian cultural sites and rally iranians across all political stripes against the united states and any particular kind of attacks that the u.s. would do against iran. this is an extremely tense situation. it's one in which he has come

out today in his speech in beirut coming out against the u.s., the iraqi prime minister just produced in parliament today about having the u.s. get out of iraq. so, this is something that will have very long consequences. and it's something that geopolitically will be very dangerous for europe because iran is much closer to europe than it is to the united states. >> narges, thank you very much for the time. coming up here, a look at how the u.s. top diplomat is trying to spin the decision. new comments from mike pompeo on the sunday shows after the break. er the break. leave bleeding gums behind. parodontax.

>> so was the justification in that he has been this destabilizing force in the region for so long or was the justification this imminent threat? >> chuck, it's never one thing. you've been at this a long time. the american people are smart, too. never one moment or instance. it's a collective. it's a full situational

awareness of risk and analysis. and i am confident and the intelligence community presented us a set of facts that made clear that the risk from doing nothing exceeded the risk of taking the action that we took. >> secretary of state mike pompeo appearing on no fewer than four networks this morning. he promised retaliation to the soleimani operation. >> a strategy that has been several years in the making now that we have been working on. diplomatic strategy and economic strategy. you're seeing elements of the military strategy and with respect to targets, president trump talked about 52 targets last night. that is not new. in 2015 the obama/biden administration essentially handed power to the iranian leadership and acted as a quasi-to build the forces throughout aggression was provided to them by the nuclear deal. we allowed europeans to do business there.

we provided them $150 billion of cash. all these things are the very challenge that the trump administration have had to collect. >> you had a lot of it in there. i'll turn to you. i think he said strategy four times emphasizing thought. >> just because you say strategy doesn't mean you have one. we can just start there. the fact is that there has always been an imminent threat in iran. this action that this president has taken hasn't put us safer. it has put everyone at risk. the questions we're not asking today, i don't know, why now? why did we take this action now against soleimani? could it be that as congress gets ready to return that the articles of impeachment are going to be going to the senate and this is a wonderful way to distract the american people from this president and the fact that he is lawless and wayward and a criminal and that everyone around him is either in jail or on their way to jail. so, we haven't had a

conversation and hashtag impeachment hasn't been trending on twitter. world war 3 is trending on twitter and we have done what donald trump is distract from the fact that 57% of americans want this president impeached and want him impeached and removed. look, this is very, very serious. what he has done in iran is incredibly serious. but like the senator said, we need sober leadership right now. donald trump is not a sober leader. he has his finger on the pulse of what he believes can create chaos because chaos creates distraction. and when people are a distraction, then criminals can get away and do whatever they want. when m p pompeo talks about cas who makes money on war? talking about what exactly? so, we know this administration, everyone around this president, they are crooked.

we need to connect the dots and follow the money. right. and follow the idea that this was not arbitrary. this was strategic, but for whom and why and it's to distract us. >> i know donald trump bought mar-a-lago in dilapidation but i assume there was more entertainment and more things to distract people who were staying there. the president distracted from watching television but i was struck that something mike pompeo said, it's never one thing. the justification that we have gotten from the president so far, it was one thing. it was this unspecified threat of an attack. and i guess the question now is, how is that going to be shaped and modified? how is that going over the course of the next week as we hear from secretary of state pompeo and others who will try to make it seem like more at play than just that. >> what pompeo is doing is laying out the legal justification so this wouldn't be considered an act of war. in fact, wouldn't be a violation

of american law because for the president to act without authorization from congress, there has to be an imminent threat. he has been given, i mean, all presidents have been given extremely wide latitude in defining that, but that is what he attempting to do. the imminence of this threat will provide for a justification and even if trump doesn't care about that, his advisors do or people in the administration do. but to your point, i don't know how strategic. it's either strategic or nefarious or a fit of, i'm not discounting the fact that he's doing deals with the saudis or maybe john bolton was thinking of testifying. this is certainly his foreign policy wish. lay it on the table. i really just think it was extremely unstrategic on every level except i don't like what i was seeing on tv. >> john bolton saying this is a step towards regime change. we should see what happens with

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this is "up." i'm david gura. russia one of the first world powers to call the legality to kill soleimani. the air strike was an act of self-defense. surguy labrov warned of serious consequences for the peace and stability of the region and said the killing grossly violates law. i'll start with you russia playing a role and these big naval exercises happening in the gulf of aman. what do you make of what he said to mike pompeo? >> never just one thing. so, russia has, you know, they're just like the quds forces were, they know they don't have enough power, as much power and might as the united states so they have to be more

power and they are. they're pulling all levers to make this a headache for the united states and advances in the region. ask yourself, everyone has been so strategic not getting everything right, but the russians have decided never to kill solemani. why? is the trump administration that much smarter? is the trump administration that much more far thinking? if they are, why did he call off the cocked and loaded strike in june because tucker carlson talked him out of it. how could it be that both of those things are true, that it was wise for tucker carlson to talk him out of that but smart to do this? is the theory or is the best explanation the october couple's razor that he's angry and doesn't know what he's doing or there is grand strategy. >> danielle, we talked about the last couple blocks about how this alters things geopolitically. russia expressing dissacks fax with what's happening here. seeing the disrecord in the middle east and discord in the

u.s. as a result of what happened. >> putin. putin has a strategy. he's been playing the long game for this entire time. donald trump is his puppet. what makes me nervous is the fact that iran, china and russia were doing routine training exercises together but a week ago. so what happens here? i put this out on twitter. what happens? worst case scenario, that the three of them decide to link up together, decide to do a beyonce formation against the united states because their vested interest makes sense for them to make those moves. these are the things that donald trump and his administration don't think about. they don't think anything further than theranos. they don't think about the ramifications or the dom november next. they think about what they wa wanted. donald trump wanted to stop the rhetoric on television because that's all he does. this is about his ego. now his ego has put american lives and the world at risk.

so what are we going to do about it? >> back to the bulletin we got from the department of homeland security. there are real risks to this. we've been in this period of mourning, iran has done anything yet. there is reason to be uneasy at this point as a result of what's happened? >> i think it's tremendous reason to be uneasy. we don't know how iran is going to retaliate. we know they will. we know iran, as the previous guest says, engages in this asymmetric warfare. we know there will be a formal military response. we know iran has sleeper cells all over the word. we know iran has pretty tremendous technological capabilities, americans may be targeted in our embassies and consulates and military bases overseas. we also know americans may be targeted here at home probably not with violent attacks, but attacks on our infrastructure, on our technology, computers and phones.

so we do not know what's coming. this administration certainly doesn't know what's coming. because they have invested so much money in overseas warfare, because they've leveraged these tremendous tax cuts, our infrastructure is hurting include ugh our ability to protect our own elections, including our ability to protect the power grid. all these things are really, really deplease eighting quite quickly. this administration has no plan and no money to support them. >> thanks to all of you for joining me here in new york. this is it. in a couple weeks msnbc is going to launch a new show in this time slot. ali velshi is going to host it. starting next weekend you can find me here on saturdays from 2:00 to 4:00. i'm so grateful to have had the opportunity. i don't need to tell you how unique "up" has been. the show has been a comfortable cadence. there's been time to talk and listen. we've covered the news, of course, and tried to make sense of it. we've also wrestled with big

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extremely high here all over iran. hundreds and hundreds of thousands of people have poured out into the streets to follow the funeral procession of general qasem soleimani. his body is being transported this morning through the streets in a truck. you can see just throngs and throngs of people trying to get a glimpse of that truck carrying his coffin. the emotions here are extremely high. good morning and welcome to "am joy." this week while the impeached current occupant of the oval office was rolling out the red carpet and partying with his friends and mar-a-lago for the holidays, he somehow, somehow managed to create this, a massive outpouring of tens of thousands of people in iran, mourning the death of that country's top military general, qasem soleimani, who was killed by the u.s. in a surprise strike. last night donald trump, the president who has pardoned

accused war criminals, tweeted out a threat to commit war crimes himself by threatening to destroy iranian cultural sites if iran attempts to hit the u.s. back for killing solemani. trump said the u.s. would target 52 iranian sites in all, but why that specific number, 52? trump apparently is referencing the 52 american citizens held hostage for 444 days in 1979 after angry young iranians overran the u.s. embassy in tehran. that scary moment between iranians and americans, what came to be known as the iran hostage crisis, had its origins decades before 1979. hostility between iran and the united states goes back to 1953 when the cia and british intelligence services orchestrated a coup to take down iran's duly elected prime minister mohammed muls vic after he had to cheat to national liesz iran's oil industry,