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>> you're used to the early morning hours. >> not necessarily on a sunday morning, but when the news calls, you have to come. fantastic way to start the morning on a sunday. welcome to this house of msnbc live. coming up in this hour, protesters express their anger after the government admits to unintentionally shooting down a ukrainian passenger jet. impeachment unconstitutional. president trump's attorney attacks saying the supreme court can actually dismiss impeachment proceedings. >> the remedy is go before the supreme court of the united states and have it declared unconstitutional. prince harry will speak about new roles for him and his wife, meghan, now that the

couple will officially step back from their royal duties. protesters have begun in cities in and around iran. thousands of people took to the streets outside the university in anger over the government's admission to taking down a passenger jet. you see here, protesters chanting slogans like no honor and calling on government leaders to step down and take responsibility for their mistakes. here in the united states, president trump tweeting his support for the iranians. tweeting commending iranians for their courage and telling their government, quote, the world is watching. plus, amidst the chaos, the uk ambassador to iran was arrested for a few hours after attending the vigil turned protest. let's get into all of this. it has been quite 24 hours, quite a ten days or so to say the least. joining us from doha and

jonathan allen and here with me on set in new york amihar and zane, founder of women for women international. cal, i'll start with you seeing you're in the region there and the most up to date state in regards to what we have been seeing. talk to me what you have been hearing in regards to these protests? >> yeah, so video leaking out on social media as you referenced already. hundreds of people at multiple universities inside tehran. this is the second day in a row we've seen these protests and the slogans are truly remarkable. calling for the government to step down. saying death to soleimani. we understand and saw a video of some of those murals that they had put up of general soleimani. remarkable because the government usually forcefully and violently puts down these protests. conservative estimates of hundreds of people killed more likely around 1,000 while

protesting against the government in tehran. this follows the downing of that ukrainian airliner. 182 civilians died and it was a surface to air missile took down that plane. the iranians taking some responsibility for shooting down the jet saying the culpability still lies with the americans. if it wasn't for the ratcheting up of tensions, that jet never would have been shot down. i do think the president has a point when he says these protesters are courageous. certainly, when you look at the history of what's gone on in the country when it comes to protests, we're waiting with bated breath to see how the government will fully respond to these protests, yasmin. >> before you get to that part of the entire saga. in it he tweets this. thanks for the many good will messages. can confirm i was not taking part in any demonstrations, went to an event advertised as a

victim for the plane victims. some of the victims were british. i left after five minutes when some started chanting detained half an hour after leaving the area and arresting diplomats is illegal in all countries. see comments by the foreign secretary. bring us up to date on the arrest of this uk ambassador, cal. >> so, the ambassador has been released. interesting enough, there are members of the iranian parliament are calling for his expulsion. i think it's probably not a great sign of where things are headed in iran. normally when the government starts pointing the finger at foreign agitators, it's usually an indication that the patience is running thin with the protesters. as you pointed out to me as we chatted on text last hour, a lot of these are student led. that's very important. the students have taken to the streets. this is unusual certainly for tehran. it will be interesting to see how the government responds. do they put down the protests violently or trials to put

people in responsibility to try to find responsibility for those who shot down the airliner. does that satisfy the protesters or is this, in fact, about something much larger, yasmin. >> stand by for me. i want to bring this questidisc into my panel. i want to get a sense from you, in general, saying you're very connected with iran right now. i know you have been speaking to people on the ground as we've seen everything progress over the last 48 hours there, especially from the time in which they admitted taking down that plane as they say it was human error. what is your assessment so far as what you have been seeing take place in the streets of iran right now? >> emotions are very raw. what happened with the jetliner three days of iranian denials before they came out and admitted it. many people on the ground say the government knew right away they downed this jet.

the rgc hit this jet by mistake. why did you wait three days? qa qa qassem soleimani was killed. that's one general. 234 people have died on iranian soil and 57 during the stampede for soleimani's funeral and then 176 by the downing of this jet. it just makes the people feel that the regime is incompetent and they're not able to control the situation. >> so, i think one of the major questions here i think that i've been asking myself and a lot of people out there are asking themselves and the point that cal brought up is an important one with the type of people protesting right now, which is important in that it seems that these are student protesters protesting at the university. very different from the protesters we saw six weeks ago that were protesting the economy and what is happening there and how they're being strangled by these economic sanctions. the fact that they literally

can't put food on the table. they are in the lower echelon of society and these are people in the upper class. is this a tipping point that we're seeing in iran? >> it's too early to tell. those protests that happened a couple months ago, a few weeks ago were the regime base. they were the ones turning out. these protests so far are student led, they're smaller. they seem to be letting out grievances because of the incompetence of the regime. >> to be clear, many of the videos we're seeing by you saying they are smaller. many videos we are seeing emerging from iran, there are thousands of people in the streets right now p. practically chanting they want the leader to step down. >> protests in iran have been for the last 40 years have

happened. we had the green movement protest where you had millions of people on the street. we had protests a few weeks ago. protests in iran are not new. too early to assess how they will play out. will they gain steam? will they bring the lower classes and the regime out on the streets? still yet to see. but, it is a sign that there's growing discontent with how the regime and the government are handling things. >> go ahead. >> i mean, because protests in iraq are new and relatively new and now we have three months of millions of protesters in the streets of iraq, including few million people went out on the streets of iraq from baghdad to all the southern provinces last friday just two days ago. these voices are very important and we need to give them more spaces to talk about. they are actually calling for a new election, a new government. they led for the resignation of the current prime minister in

iraq on november 30th and they're asking for a secular government that separates religion from the state. their voice have been heard in iraq because their government killed a few hundred of them. they're saying hundreds of us get killed and nobody talk about it. one guy gets killed and the whole world goes. it is important because it could lead to a shift in the government of iraq and the future of iraq. no one, we're not giving them enough space or discussion and they start would the university students, but -- >> that's one of the major differences you're seeing. >> quickly joined by labor association and shia in southern provinces is joining them, which is a huge deal and showing a new deal that shia is not all-pro government. we want secular government and take us beyond sectarian or religious divides. >> what are they saying about the u.s. progress? >> u.s. is divided.

the parliament vote to expel u.s. troops from it. 140 members. which shows a division in iraq between those who are saying and they are pro-iran. they are backed by government militia. and the second half of iraq who are saying we're actually afraid of u.s. because it will leave a vacuum in the country that will allow more iranian government intervention in the country and meddling of the country, which people are frustrated with and they are afraid of the rise of isis. so, divided country right now. not one voice. how do we tip it over and how do we support the secular voice is important. >> feels pretty combustible. you wake up and see new developments coming from the region and you think, what will happen next? anybody who thinks they know what will happen next, is lying to you. >> jonathan allen, want to bring you into the conversation, my friend. speaking of the trump

administration in general. it seems like the president to some extent is taking credit for what is happening overseas right now and iran is seeing the killing of qassem soleimani as a win. but does it seem as if we actually de-escalated what has happened so far? >> i'm not sure that it's de-escalated. it certainly escalated the tension politically in the united states. we're starting to see poll numbers that suggest that americans are concerned about what u.s. policy is in the middle east about the danger potentially to u.s. forces overseas and broadly to american assets, as it were, if you're talking about human resources and talking about people or talking about, you know, our military or the potential to get drawn in to another war in the middle east. you also have increased tensions from middle eastern countries that we were just talking about iran. you have the protests and the airliner shot down by the

iranian government and you have protests in the streets there and protests in iraq and the level of tension is up and the level of politential violence i up from where it was before. whether that leads to good outcomes or bad outcomes leads to be seen. one thing that we didn't know yesterday is that the president speaks farcy in his tweet. >> not sure if he is actually using google translate there. >> fortunately, someone is advising him about the messages he sends and i think that's very important because if he will speak in another language, it's very important what he's communicating is measured. >> absolutely. an important point to be made there. let's talk about some of that polling you brought up. from abc news showing the majority of americans, 56% disapproving of the president's

handling of iran. what do you make of this, jonathan? >> what i make of it is that americans are wary and wary of war. we have been in afghanistan for long enough that people who weren't yet born on 9/11 are now serving in afghanistan. we've been in iraq for almost as long and the prospects of going to war with iran, whatever that looks like. whether it involves boots on the ground or simply involves more sort of equipment strikes, air strikes, whatever that involves. i think people are tired of it and not only are people who are against the president politically normally tired of that, but people in his own base are tired of it. he campaigned on getting out of afghanistan and iraq. campaigned on having a more smaller footprint militarily across the world and i think, you know, this undermines basically what he campaigned on

and that's why you're seeing those numbers like that. >> what i think is interesting domestically in general as we look ahead to the election in november whether national security policy will play a pivotal role on what are on the mind of voters as they head to vote for the next president of the united states. you think back to 2004, that was very much on the mind of american voters when you think about when we are in the midst of the iraq war. and now here we are, again, possibly on the precipice of war, again. literally in the last week. we went from 0 to 60 with regards to what took place with ir iran. i'm wondering if voters will take the same sentiment to the polls in november? >> no one wants to go to war, but we have to have a shift in our policy towards middle east. we just have to have that. it's right now, america is part of the destabilization of the middle east. it's not our side of it. we have to have a longerterm

policy, we need to engage differently and we need to improve people's lives. that is nation building. in a constructive way and in a way that does not allow for corruption but we can do it as a way to stabilize the middle east. right now we're not helping. if you don't want to go to war, it's okay. i don't want to go to war. i worked in wars all my life and i'm vehemently against it. we have to have another strategy so we can build peace. >> we are just scratching the surface. much more to come. thank you very much, appreciate your insight. coming up next, the house is expected to sign articles of impeachment to the senate as the president's personal attorney calls the process unconstitutional. what argument rudy giuliani is making ahead of the senate trial, when we come back. could lead to way cleaner teeth. she said, get the one inspired by dentists, with a round brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's gentle rounded brush head

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>> our president will start a war with iran because he has absolutely no ability to negotiate. he's weak and he's ineffective. so the only way that he figures he's going to get re-elected is to start a war with iran. >> wow. welcome back. i'm yasmin vossoughian. that was back in 2011 arguing president obama would start a war to get re-elected. the several tweets trump posted over a two-year period accusing president obama of wag the dog

style politics. instead obama made a land mark deal that he ripped up and ordered that strike on general soleimani. now with impeachment hanging over his head in an election year, many are wondering if the country president are doing exactly what he so often accused his predecessor of doing. deert having the attention of the public. joining us now from washington we have white house reporter for "washington post" ann garen and mona sharon and with me on set, former executive director bazzal. >> anne, i'm going to get started with you on this one. what are you hearing to the president's strategies here? >> yasmin, i think we can look at the outcome, right? whatever the president's intent in going after qassem soleimani, it did change the conversation

from impeachment for the full week. those two story lines are definitely coming together now because we do expect the articles to be transmitted this coming week and that will happen at the same time as the fallout from iran admitting having shut down the airliner in the aftermath of the soleimani killing. the republican senators who will catch the ball when the articles of impeachment are transmitted, are in the main pretty hawkish on iran and in the main pleased on what the president did. even if president wasn't trying to give them what they wanted in terms of foreign policy, he definitely is starting the game in the senate with a group of senators who not only who were already predisposed to a fairly quick acquittal, but now, also, have under their belt a very,

very striking foreign policy change from the president on an issue that had concerned many republicans who thought that he was being too accommodating to iran and too hopeful falsely in their view that iran would eventually want to negotiate with him. >> so, you're pretty sure, ann, from what i am seeing that this bolsters the president's support among his own party. do you think the same about his voters? >> we don't know the answer to that. and that is, obviously, the next very good question. for sure, the entire series of events starting with the qassem soleimani more than a week ago. targeted killing and you choose your term has bolstered the president's support among republicans in congress. certainly, on the senate side. and pretty strongly on the house side, as well, despite there

were some republican deflections on the war powers last week as we saw. voters are at least in the initial polling that we've seen and it's pretty early yet, his supporters are willing to go with him on the soleimani killing. i think, however, nationally, there is considerable, i would call it concern that perhaps this is an invitation to further war in the middle east which is broadly unpopular and the danger zone for trump is that any wider war in the middle east is especially unpopular with core elements of his base with rural voters and lower income white

voters. >> we keep showing 56% of americans there but another part of the poll that is pretty striking that i want you guys to weigh in on and that is whether americans feel more or less safe after the killing of general soleimani. you have 28% of independents and just over half, 51% of independents here and 52% of american adults said they felt less safe. >> right. absolutely right. that is the key concern here because with this president, you wonder about the capriciousness of the decision. is he enough of a world leader and i think that's the big distinction between he and other presidents that may have engaged in similar activity. is he enough of a world leader to understand the ramifications of what he's done. another person to bring the country together and present a strong case to voters to say, we needed to do this for x, y and z

reasons and this is how we are making you safer by the day. he has not done that. and i don't think any, i don't think most voters believe that it was a decision that was made to necessarily make america safe versus his acting on his own questionable intelligence. >> i had this philosophical question over my head for quite some time, as all of this has been developing, and that is the erosion of trust in this country. especially because this country is so divided over their support for the current president. you have one side of the country that is in support of the president that likely does not have trust in our intelligence communities because you have the president consistently bashing the intelligence community over and over whether it be the fbi or cia and the intelligence that is emerging from there. and then on the other side, those people that don't necessarily support the president and not having trust in the office of the president, especially when you see senator mike lee, a republican senator, coming out of an intelligence

briefing with regards to the killing of general soleimani and basically saying it's razor thin and thought it was the worst briefing he has heard as of yet. where do we stand kurncurrently you think about that overhead look with regards to trust in the government, mona? >> one thing this leaves unsettled is the question of how erratic and untrustworthy this president is. one of the chief worries of thiz distracters has been that he would not be able to handle an international crisis and that his decisionmaking would be erratic and worrisome. so, this crisis the way it's played out has, i think, given to republicans and to people who are inclined to support the president a certain reassurance that he came out of this one at least so far ahead-on the other hand, there is also that nagging

problem, as you mentioned, the mike lee angry outburst after receiving that intelligence briefing and bear in mind, they were in a skiff, which is a secure bunker in the capital, being brief by the top officials of the trump administration about the intelligence that backed up the soleimani targeting. and they were told, these senators were told that they could not share this information with them. because it wasn't secure. i mean, how much more secure could you possibly ask for? so, it sort of plants the doubt that there was really intelligence suggesting that this was an imminent attack that they were thwarting. it leaves that open to question in any case, let's put it that way. >> i think to that point and you asked this question earlier, i think it's important to note while this action may improve his status among his base, if you look historically, this is where republican leaders and the

senate and in the house have actually detracted from him because when he comes to military and comes to foreign affairs, that's something that republicans, if they can take anything seriously today, do take seriously and that's why you start to see some of those. i don't think it has an impact on impeachment. like even the troop withdrawal, that's where they departed. >> mona, go ahead. >> i think it might have an effect on impeachment in so far the hopes of democrats rested on basically four republicans agreeing to join with them and ask for witnesses, ask for more information. those four republicans who might have been willing to do that before trump was, look, he is the commander in chief, has the capacity to change the subject, change what we're talking about and i think he was successful in

that. i think the mood is now less friendly toward hearing out the impeachment articles because the whole impeachment idea was that the president was using his authority and i think this is actually true, he was using his authority in foreign affairs for his own personal benefit and not for the benefit of the country at large. now he has taken this action that many republicans will see as strong and standing up for america and for and against terrorists. and so it makes a very strong contrast with the image that they were going to be painting of him in the impeachment of somebody who was monkeying around with foreign policy in a way that was purely self-interested. >> anne, mona, thanks. first, the devastation in puerto rico. this week's earthquake and hundreds of aftershocks destroyed homes and left

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residents in puerto rico are afraid to go back to their homes after another earthquake took the island. asking president trump for additional federal assistance. the damage to the island compounded after yesterday's after shock that measured 5.9 on the richter scale. the latest in a series of seismic events that cost millions of dollars in damage and resulting in the widespread loss of power. "washington post" saying early damage reports are estimated at $110 million. this as the island, quote, is still waiting on more than $18 billion in federal funding after hurricane maria devastated much of the island back in 2017. puerto rico dealing with a lot right now. joining me now by the phone adrian reporter with npr. bring us up to date so far on what you have heard with regard to the conditions on the ground. >> good morning, yasmin.

as of this morning, you know, one of the big impacts from this earthquake was a widespread power outage. as of this morning, the electric utility company here is saying only 3% of customers are without power and get those people restarted as soon as possible. there are still many thousands of people who are sleeping outside every night because they are afraid of, as you mentioned, to return to their homes because a lot of people don't know how well their homes are and if they're built to withstand earthquakes. more reports of additional damage and people don't want to take the risk sleeping inside when another quake could potentially bring their homes crumbling to the ground. so, people are setting up makeshift camps all over the place. in the mountains, on the sides of roads and in front of houses sort of leaning on community to sort of get through this period of uncertainty with all the shaking and people not knowing when it will end. >> paint the picture for us if

you can as you walk around the neighborhoods. what exactly are you seeing after these earthquakes? >> there are people setting up tents using old tarps from the days of, you know, the post-hurricane, the old fema tarps and the famous blue fema tarps to create sort of shelters where they can sleep underneath and not be, you know, fully exposed to the elements. people setting up, you know, communial kitchens and cooking for neighbors and once night falls, people start settling in to their sleeping bags or on to cots that the people are bringing from other parts of the island to donate to affected people in the area here. in one sense, a lot of stress, a lot of anxiety for people and in a lot it has created a sense of

community and basically puerto ricans relying on each other because one thing they saw after hurricane maria was they could not rely on the federal government or local government to help them quickly. >> the island representative sending a letter to the president asking him to increase the scope of the disaster and this is how he puts it from a federal emergency to a major disaster declaration, we're going to watch and see how that develops, as well, if they can get increased funding there in puerto rico as they deal with this devastation following these numerous earthquakes there. adrian, thank you so much. appreciate you weighing in on this. news from the world of sports. serena williams winning her first tournament in nearly three years. she won an australian open and that fact is key to the story because williams decided to donate her $43 million prize to relief efforts where horrible

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welcome back. he may be lagging in the latest iowa polls, but former vice president joe biden is the top candidate amongst black voters

by a wide margin. a new "washington post" poll has biden pulling in 48%. that's a 28-point lead over senator bernie sanders. the remaining candidates are all just in the single digits as you see there. sanders does seem to be making head waves. his popularity among this group is something we've seen throughout his campaign. want to go now to vaughn hillyard and senior politics editor beth who is in manchester at new hampshire. vaughn, i'll start with you because it looks like you're out in the cold. so better to get you started and up and going. talk to us first about senator sanders still riding pretty high after surging to first place in the latest iowa poll. >> exactly. this is the first time leading in this poll here that is known

as the gold standard poll out of this caucus state. we are 22 days away from the iowa caucus and what you see out of those numbers is encouraging for sanders and largely based off of the enthusiasm he has compared to meager voter enthusiasm for the likes of joe biden. when you're talking to folks, i met a woman last night. she caucused for hillary clinton here in davenport back in 2016. last night she said that she had made up her mind and that was to caucus for bernie sanders. she said because she is tired of the lack of faith and she said for what it is worth she believes bernie sanders stuck to his message. it's the same message she heard four years ago and not enough to caucus for him but enough she will come out and support him here on february 3rd. at the same time, you mentioned those numbers there among african-americans. under the age of 35, black voters support bernie sanders

quite overwhelmingly, but you see that across the demographics for bernie sanders. even if you go to four years ago, here in iowa, he won among people under 35. first-time caucus goers is the other number that i think we should look at over the next few weeks. back in 2016 44% of caucus goers were first-time caucus goers and 22% clip. they are looking to do the exact same thing this time and heading to iowa city to the. cas of iowa university later this afternoon. >> if you take a look at those numbers 32 to 30 with sanders leading in the latest poll as we throw up some of the numbers there. that disparity to say the least, pretty staggering. beth, we are two days away from the next presidential debate in iowa and focus six of the candidates. calling over the polling threshold as we heard this argument being made before. what do you make of it? >> yeah, andrew yang and others

have really spoken out about the dnc rules and as you know, yasmin, showing up in a number of state polls at a certain level and having a certain number of donors to get you on that debate stage. a lot of those candidates feel it's arbitrary and some major figures who are elected statewide in their states and has favored candidates like tom styer on the e debate stage. but the dnc is adamant. they're not going to change their polling strategy and donor strategy and they feel this is the fairest and safest way to get the candidates up there who ought to be on the debate stage. six candidates on tuesday. all of whom are white and also a problem for the democratic party which, you know, is sort of the welcome home to voters of color, or likes to portray itself that

way. the dnc is not apologizing for that. >> beth, we are 22 days away from the iowa caucuses. it is essentially anybody's race at this point. four top frontrunners at this point and former mayor pete buttigieg in new hampshire. if any of these candidates would break out from the pack, how would that change the algorithm to what is ahead? >> well, you mentioned earlier the strong showing that joe biden has among african-american voters and that could potentially really change the calculus. if he does well enough to sort of hang on and get himself to south carolina and to nevada and to the early states, those super tuesday states that are more diverse, he will be definitely benefited by his popularity. >> beth from new hampshire and vaughn from iowa, thank you, both. coming up, a new bipartisan op-ed is urging nancy pelosi to send one article of impeachment

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president trump's personal attorney, rudy giuliani. he is now saying the impeachment of the president is unconstitutional and the chief justice of the supreme court can, in fact, dismiss it. >> remedy is to go before the supreme court of the united states and have it declared unconstitutional. now, you say, well, there's nothing in the constitution that allowed the supreme court to do it. there's also nothing in the constitution as you know from early days of copseitutinstitutw that allows supreme court to declare a rule of law unconstituti unconstitutional. >> joining us now two former u.s. attorneys and the people that are best to speak about this joyce and barbara. joyce is an msnbc contributor and barbara is a legal analyst. joyce, i just want to get your reaction to what you heard trump's personal attorney there saying and the supreme court's rule on all of this. >> well, rudy giuliani is not a

constitutional law scholar and his interpretation of what the constitution does and does provide for is the only way to characterize it is inaccurate. the constitution doesn't provide for any sort of judicial ruling on the validity of articles of impeachment and it's easy to understand why. this isn't a criminal process. no one is going to prison at the end of these proceedings. this is a quasi political process that determines whether or not the president of the united states who cannot be prosecuted criminally, as we all well know, committed high crimes and misdemeanors and should be removed. that decision the constitution leaves strictly, solely as it says to congress and not the courts. >> this is also the same personal attorney who says he wants to be part of the president's defense team during the senate trial. i'm not quite sure anyone thinks that is a smart idea. barbara, giuliani went on to make the argument that it would be better for the president if a

trial was held in the senate and witnesses were called. your take on this? >> well, strategically i can disagree and that is probably good evidence as to why giuliani will not be on president trump's trial team. there is evidence that was presented in the house. we heard from that parade of witnesses, career professionals and career diplomats that talked about why it was so troubling that president trump made those demands on ukraine and held the military aid. since that time we have only seen additional evidence come out in the form of e-mails and john bolton has now said that he would testify. we know from fiona hill that he possesses some information that could be very damaging to the president. i think if the public got the opportunity to hear from these witnesses, again, plus the additional testimony that seems to be lurking out there, it could potentially be very damaging for president trump. i think rudy giuliani is best

used as trump's mouth piece and not his lawyer. >> let's talk speaker pelosi strategy in all of this regarding her role of holding back the articles of impeachment and now she could pass them on later next week. a republican expert who testified during the inquiry in the hill op-ed says this. pelosi continued a strategy that could jeopardize not just any trial, but the rules governing impeachment. but you have, joyce, legal experts like george conway all disagreeing with that saying in an op-ed that pelosi has the upper hand and should hold one of the articles of impeachment back, so, quote, they say trump could undergo two impeachment trials instead of one. what do you think, joyce? >> everybody has their own strategy for how this impeachment should proceed. many people are result-oriented as they look at it. but the reality here, yasmin, what the american people deserve is the truth.

they deserve a fair proceeding where all of the relevant evidence comes out and then the senators have to publicly vote. so, i think pelosi is focused on that. for instance, she held the articles because there was no clarity from the senate on what the process would look like and she needed to appoint impeachment managers who would have the skillsets to handle the challenges that her case would face in the senate. at the same time, there's a concern about procedural fairness of these proceedings. this is unlike the clinton impeachment. there was not a four-year investigation like there was in the clinton independent council proceeding. the president has not cooperated or appeared in front of the grand jury. this process moving forward is one that gets to the truth. >> joyce, barbara, always giving us the truth. thank you so much. appreciate it. coming up in our next hour, when will house speaker nancy pelosi send articles of impeachment to the senate. but, first, thousands march in the streets of tehran

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