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with less than three weeks to the iowa caucuses, six democratic candidates keyed off. warren and bernie sanders with tensions last night. house records showed rudy giuliani appeared to get a private meeting with ukraine's president and that marie yovanovitch was being monitored. and the house is expected to vote today to send articles of impeachment over to the senate, hicking off a historic trial. good morning, everyone. it is wednesday, january 15th. pooim ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin vossoughian who i know
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stayed up late to watch the debate all the way through. >> all the way through. i basically went to bed. >> i mean, i had 30 minutes so it's going to be a great show. >> we want to begin with last night's democratic presidential debates. the last before the iowa caucuses just 20 days away. about 40 minutes in, the mod raiders turned to elizabeth warren's claim that during a private conversation in 2018 bernie sanders told her that a woman could not win the presidential election. here's how it all played out. >> why did you say that? >> well, as a matter of fact, i didn't say it. i don't want to waste a whole lot of time on this because this is what donald trump, maybe some of the media want. anybody who knows me, things that its incomprehensible that i don't think that a woman can be the president of the united states. go to youtube, they have video of me talking about how a woman
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could become president of the united states. in 2015, i deferred, in fact, to senator warren. it was a movement to draft senator warren to run for president. i stayed back. senator warren decided not to run and i did run, i did run afterwards. hillary clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes. how could anybody in a million years not believe that a woman could president of the united states? >> so, senator sanders -- senator sanders, i do want to be clear here, you're saying that you never told senator warren that a woman could not win the election? >> that is correct. >> senator warren, what did you think when senator sanders told you a woman could not win the election? >> i disagreed. bernie is my friend, and i'm not here to try to fight with bernie. but, look, this question of whether or not a woman can be president has been raised and
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it's time for to us attack it head-on. and i think the best way to talk about who can win is by looking at people's winning record. so, can women beat donald trump? look at the men on this stage, collectively, they have lost ten elections. the only people on this stage who have won every single election they've been in are the women, amy and me. >> that was a couple of tense moments to say the least. >> and a statement by elizabeth warren to make the point that her and amy klobuchar were the only ones to win -- >> by the calculation. and some were reading elizabeth warren's body language after the debate, as one does. she turned to the right, hook hands with tom steyer and embraced him. and then shook hands with the former vice president. and she either didn't see the hand of senator sanders, but
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before steyer stepped in. and then you see senator bernie sanders seemingly walking off the stage, not necessarily knowing what words were exchanged there. but they did have a moment, wondering if in fact they were talking about -- >> whatever it was, the body language, the way that he turned away from her. the fact that tom steyer was looking back and forth to identify that there was tense language being exchanged. you could clearly see it was not a friendly moment between the two. >> no. so, we'll see how this progresses off the debate stage and on the campaign trail. and speaking of last night, joe biden and bernie sanders, they clashed on their opposing votes to enter the iraq war. >> when the congress was debating whether or not we go into a war in iraq, invade iraq, i got up on the floor of the house, and i said that would be a disaster. it would lead to unprecedented levels of chaos in the region.
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and i not only voted against the war. i helped lead the effort against that war. >> i said 13 years ago, it was a mistake to good the president the authority to go to war, if in fact, he couldn't get inspectors into iraq to stop what was thought to be the attempt to get a nuclear weapon. it was a mistake. and i acknowledged that. but right -- and the man who also argued against that war, barack obama, pickeded me to be h vice president. once we were elected president and vice president, he turned to me and asked me to end that war. >> and last night's stage, also debated the issue of health care. >> take obamacare, reinstate -- rebuild it. provide an option for medicare for those folks who want it. in fact, make sure in the process we reduce the cost of drug prices. reduce the cost of being able to
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buy into it, ub sa diez subsidi further. >> what i'm offering is a choice. there's no need to kick americans off the plans that they want in order to deliver health care for all. >> medicare for all which will guarantee comprehensive health care to every man, woman and child will cost substantially less than status quo. now is the time to take on the greed of the health care industry and the drug companies and finally provide health care for all, through a medicare for all single payor program. >> this debate isn't real. i was in vegas, someone said don't put your chips on the number on the wheel that isn't even on the wheel. two-thirds of the democrats in the senate are not on the bill that you and senator warren are. you have numerous members that
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are democratic that don't support this. you have numerous house members that put house speaker nancy pelosi. and the real debate should be how do we make it easier for people to cover addiction and mental health, i have a plan for that. and finally, what should we do about long-term care, the elephant that doesn't fit in this room. >> i've got a plan to expand health care. but let's keep in mind, when we come to a general election, we democrats argue against each other how to do health care we're going to be up against an incumbent republican who has cut health care for millions and people and continues to do that. i'll take this side of the argument any way. >> simone, great to have you with us. let's talk what stood out last night before we approached the iowa caulk cushicucaucuses?
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>> yes, this was the first debate, and you did see foreign policy there showcased at the beginning. and biden and sanders to relitigate their differences on the iraq war vote. i think most interesting not only is it the opportunity for before the caucuses for the senators to be on the stage, but for senators in particular running for president stuck in washington, d.c. for perhaps an extended impeachment trial, this was potentially their last opportunity to be in the state talking to voters ahead of next week. >> let's talk, simone, about that moment we were playing out earlier between senators warren and senator sanders there, and a mix of what we seem to see rising tensions between these two. is this the end of this nonaggression pact that they've had for quite some time? >> i mean, senator warren has said she does not want to have this, despite, although, after
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saying that she capitalized on the moment. she had perhaps what was the biggest episode of the night when she went on to illustrate the different electoral histories of the men and women on stage. so it doesn't look like this is going on anytime soon. we still don't know what happened in this conversation. >> yeah, we actually don't know what happened in this conversation. we can only assume. >> i've seen on social media that some of the moderators did not try to get to the bottom of that. they didn't ask point blank did you or didn't you say it? they assumed sanders did not say that. >> but you could tell by elizabeth warren's reaction -- >> but then the moderator turned and said what did you think that he had said that. it was based on he had said that. >> exactly. >> simone, thank you. still ahead, democrats release a cache of documents related to trump's impeachment, including an undisclosed letter from rudy giuliani to the president of ukraine.
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around 1:00 in the morning, she called me again and she said that there were great concerns, there were concerns up the street and she said i needed to come home immediately. get on the next plane to the u.s. and i asked her why. and she said she wasn't sure, but there were concerns about my security. i asked her my physical security? because sometimes washington knows more than we do about these things. she said, no, she hadn't gotten that impression that it was a physical security issue, but
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they were concerned about my security and i needed to come home right away. i argued. this is extremely irregular. and no reason given. but in the end, i did get on the next plane. >> that was former u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch testifying back in november, recalling an unknown concern that had arisen about her security forcing her to come back to the united states. we now have clarity what that concern was after records were turned over yesterday by lev parnas' attorneys. bringing a new figure to the spotlight, gop can made robert hyde. documents appear to show that hyde was tracking yovanovitch's physical movements along with her computer and phone. the document included whatsapp exchanges between parnas and hyde where they appeared to be discussing yovanovitch. the messages do not mention the ambassador by name and include stories and links from her
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around the time that giuliani was pushing to get her fired. they suggested that the president had already decided twoun once to remove her. hyde said he was drinking when he sent the message to parnas. >> never an excuse. >> hyde attacked house chair adam schiff in colorful terms. yovanovitch's lawyer is now calling on authorities to investigate whether she was in fact being monitored. and house democrats released new records yesterday showing that president's trump's personal lawyer rudy giuliani wrote a letter to the president of ukraine at the time, volodymyr zelensky. with the president's knowledge and consent. the letter which was part of the evidence turned over to house investigators by lawyers to lev parnas, that giuliani was trying to dig up political dirt on joe biden and the dnc, on behalf of the president. now in the past, trump has tried
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to distance himself from giuliani's efforts saying in november that he didn't direct him. however in his letter, giuliani writes in part, quote, i have a more specific request in my capacity as personal counsel to president trump and with his knowledge and consent i request a meeting with you on this upcoming monday may 13th or tuesday may 14th. i will need no more than a half hour of your time. >> some thought maybe that text message was not necessarily as colorful as the other text message. joining us here on set, nbc legal analyst danny cevallos. danny, good to see you. >> you've got chair adam schiff and the documents will be turned over to the upcoming impeachment trial along with the articles of impeachment. how is this going to affect
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president trump's senate impeachment trial, this new information that we just talked about? >> it's a compelling argument for the expansion of evidence at the senate trial. there's still going to be a battle that is not yet resolved in what o of evidence to allow and whether or not to call witnesses. and there's one argument that says, well, if impeachment is just an accusation, then the trial itself, typically in criminal trials, more evidence comes in, and more witnesses testify because the burden of proof is higher to get a conviction. this becoming a compelling argument and something i would add that the constituents and senators can easily digest. they have some of the notes if you want to look at them online. they have evidence in black and white that they can see themselves and it draws compelling lines between the dots, connecting them where you have indicted notes of this person appearing to involve himself in the announcement of an investigation into the
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bidens. this is all stuff that connects too many people together for anyone to say that this was a separate -- that there was no actual quid pro quo or request for help for assistance for a personal campaign. >> if you didn't notice it that was the handwritten note that says get zelensky. danny, about this new revelation, and the fact that there was now at least from what has emerged in the last 24 hours or so and the comments that we played of marie yovanovitch that there was some clock to monitor her or track her for her whereabouts. >> at the same time they were planning on firing her. >> and whether that matters in implicates rudy giuliani somewhat. >> take a step back, this is a private person, an american, essentially, conducting surveillance on a u.s. ambassador abroad. and these text messages drunk or
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not, drinking, whatever the case may be, they're really problemat problematic. as a criminal defense attorney, i can tell you that voluntary intoxication are rarely a defense to crimes, especially to things like dui. this is not going to bode well for the sender of those text messages or rudy giuliani who, again, i've been saying this for weeks he's going to get burned by the fact he's wearing too many hats. look at the comments seeking ex culp tori evidence. this is rudy giuliani at the core of this is going to get burned because he's wearing too many hats. >> it's like he's creating a story in reverse. because as more evidence comes
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out he tries to explain it in different ways, versus starting from the beginning. >> exactly. and he does this thing with the letter where he says i'm solely acting as personal counsel to the president. >> right. >> so, i'm asking a personal favor of the president. and what could that possibly be? you mean y saying it's completely separate from the personal, the private person who sells stakes in trump university and all of that stuff? it's impossible. >> you moved rudy giuliani to the assets column to the personal -- >> i don't know i've ever said he's in the assets column. >> if you're watching this, at one point, giuliani was an asset to the president making arguments on his behalf going back to the stormy daniels stuff. now, he's pretty much in the liability column. >> i think i can answer that question. i think the most telling information is the reporting of the tensing law firm who is referenced, brought into this, rudy giuliani immediately issued
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a statement to the effect, whoa, whoa, whoa, we don't know nothing about that. that's an indicator. >> danny cevallos. >> definitely not an asset. >> danny cevallos is an asset. >> yes, an asset to us. still ahead, the latest on the deadly fires tearing across australia. and how the smoke and wind is impacting tennis players at the australian open. we're back in a moment. lower their blood sugar. a majority of adults who took ozempic® reached an a1c under 7 and maintained it. here's your a1c. oh! my a1c is under 7! (announcer) and you may lose weight. adults who took ozempic® lost on average up to 12 pounds. i lost almost 12 pounds! oh! (announcer) ozempic® does not increase the risk of major cardiovascular events like heart attack, stroke, or death. there's no increased risk. oh! and i only have to take it once a week. oh! ♪ oh, oh, oh, ozempic®! ♪
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welcome back. australia is waiting patiently for the upcoming forecast of heavy rains to relieve them of one of its most destructive wildfires in history. more than 400 fires remain active. so far, the fires have claimed at least 27 lives and burned 27 million acres of land. yesterday, the conditions at the australian open yesterday were so bad that the slovenia collapsed. air quality had been deemed hazardous. and the environmental protection agency had urged residents to stay inside. jakupovic forced to retire from the match saying it was unfair with players competing in such poor conditions. >> let's go to a quick check of the weather. >> hey, good morning, we've seen
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that nasa satellite image where the australia smoke has made it around the world. that's crazy. >> that's crazy. >> and the pyrocvs clouds, producie ing tornado-force wind that's impacting people across the world so watching that pretty closely. also, closer to home, we have the next storm system, that's a short cold front that will bring a burst of rain and also a little snow for the upper midwest. so, behind that is a lot cooler air. we could see significant snow for the higher elevations from northern new england, up to 6 to 8 inches, now i've been talking about it all week. this long-awaited storm system. great news, the models are out, and this will not have a severe weather side to this storm. but heavy rain going to be impacting the south and southeast. on the northern side, the winds will pick up to 30 to 40 miles per hour. throughout saturday afternoon. look, what you can count on, the
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major hubs like philadelphia, boston, new york city, i do think will stay on the warm side of this system. so predominantly rain, the higher elevations. look at this. and the models finally in agreement. possibility of 9 to 12 inches. so we're sitting in the heat right now. but as we talked about monday/tuesday, things are changing. and by saturday morning, we're talking about single digit changes temperature. >> quite a swing from a week ago. >> very. >> when it was above 60 degrees walking out the door. thank you, janessa. still ahead, we've got live moments from last night's debate in iowa. and the house votes to send articles of impeachment over to the senate. we'll have a look at what to expect today. we're back in a moment.
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♪ welcome back, everybody. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. a lot to get to at this hour. a big day on capitol hill, as democrats prepare to send the two articles of impeachment over to the senate. but we want to begin with last night's democratic debate in des moines. six candidates taking to the stage as we enter the final stretch in the iowa caucuses, just 20 days away. let's go to ali vitali live for us. good morning. >> an early wake-up call or did you stay up all night like yasmin did? >> reporter: we're pulling an
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all-nighter, feeling like a college kid. >> of course, there's the "vanity fair" -- >> afterparty then the live shot. talk to us, ali, about the matters that mattered the most last night. >> reporter: well, you defied talked about the final stretch to iowa. and that final stretch is being interrupted by that impeachment trial that we know that's looming over this race and finally it seems coming into the collision course with the 2020 race. that means for several contenders on the stage, it was really the last chance to make an impression on voters. polling has been muddled here. everyone has had a chance to be in the forefront. at least if you're the four core folks, "biggest loser," bernie, biden and warren. bernie and warren are the people people were watching heading into last night's debate because of the feud over the course of the last 24 hours. of course, bernie sanders and elizabeth warren at odds over a
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2018 meeting that they both had. where bernie sanders told elizabeth warren he didn't think a woman could win the presidency. she said she days agreed. that moment played out on stage last night but the two close to de-escalate it, that battle i heard from sources on the ground yesterday. watch how this played so elizabeth warren instead of going at bernie sanders pivoted and made it her point for her electability. >> i think the best way to talk about who can win is by looking at eye a woman's record. can a woman beat donald trump? look at the men on this stage, collectively, they have lost ten elections. [ laughter ] the only people on this stage who have won every single election that they've been in, are the women, amy and me. [ cheers and applause ] and the only person on this stage who has beaten an incumbent republican anytime in the past 30 years is me.
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>> just to set the report straight, i defeated an incumbent republican running for congress. >> when? >> 1990. that's how i won, beat a republican congressman. number two -- plus, i don't think there's any debate up here. >> wasn't that 30 years ago? >> i beat an incumbent republican congressman. >> and i said i was the only one who has beaten an incumbent republican in 30 years. >> reporter: certainly one of those moment where is you could have used andrew yang on stage he used his signature slogan of "math," right? while it didn't clearly escalate last night, there are simmering tensions still left between bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. you saw it in that change. and you saw as the debate ended where bernie sanders appeared to
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approach elizabeth warren for a handshake. and he didn't give a handshake. that conversation looked tense. tom steyer walked over in the middle of it. and told chris matthews all he wanted to do is get out of it. but elizabeth warren attacked more people on that debate than anybody else. it just kind of goes to show you in the homestretch, it's differentiation season and decision season for a lot of iowa voters. that's not to say that anyone has a clear choice. again, if you look at the polls you're seeing a lot of different front-runners. it seems like every poll in the last few days had a front ordering of that top four. a lot to track as we head into caucus day. >> i think it's obvious when you have 15 candidates on a stage and you're almost two years out from an election, you feel like there's a long ways off. you don't necessarily have to go after each other. you can talk more about the platforms and what you stand for. at this point, it's a day of
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reckoning. >> technically, 30 years ago would still be in 1990. we settled that math. ali vitali, thanks for staying up with us. appreciate it. some of the democratic presidential contenders weighed in on president trump's impeachment saga transpiring on capitol hill. >> there's no choice but for nancy pelosi and the house to move. he has, in fact, committed impeachable offenses. whether the senate makes that judgment or not, that's for them to decide. this republican party, they're gone after, savaged my surviving son. gone after me, told lies that your networks and others won't even carry on television because they're flat-out lies. i did my job, the question is whether or not he did his job. and he hasn't done his job. >> what that impeachment trial is going to show once again to the american people and something that we should all be talking about is the corruption of this administration. that's what lies at the heart of it. it is about donald trump putting donald trump first.
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>> if our republican colleagues won't allow those witness, they may as were give the president a crown and scepter, they may as well make him king. >> and house lawmakers are closing in on the next phase of impeachment proceedings against the president. at 10:00 a.m., house speaker nancy pelosi is expected to announce impeachment managers for the upcoming trial. then around 10:30, the house is expected to vote on sending the articles of impeachment over to the senate. in a statement, pelosi said this in part, the american people deserve the truth and the constitution demands a trial. the prosecution and the senators will held accountable. >> mitch mcconnell said the impeachment trial will likely start next tuesday. mcconnell told reporters that senate preparations will begin this week. the witness testimony still up for debate but in terms of president trump's calls to dismiss the dhohouse debate altogether, mcconnell acknowledged he doesn't have the votes to do that.
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>> the president has suggested that you should just move to dismiss. you probably want to get this over sooner than later. why not push to dismiss? >> there's no center attempt in the republican congress for a motion to dismiss. our members feel we have an obligation to listen to the arguments. >> some in your conference have suggested that if democrats are calling witnesses like john bolton. they would like to call with the t witnesses like hunter biden. would you support call hunter biden? >> i think with witnesses appropriate in the trial, i think it's appropriate to point out that both sides will want to call witnesses that they want to hear from. so when you get to that issue, i can't imagine that only the witnesses that our democratic colleagues would want to call would be called. >> mcconnell reportedly held a meeting with a small group of republican colleagues in his office yesterday to discuss gop strategy for the senate impeachment trial. according to politico, during
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the 30-minute session, senator ted cruz pitched mcconnell on the idea of witness reciprocity, as democrats want to hear from john bolton on the ukraine scandal, then republicans get to hear from hunter biden. and on fox news, a similar case on reciprocity. watch this. >> on witnesses do you favor calling them, yes or no? >> you know, i think as i said, that's a hotly debated yes within the senate. whether witnesses get called depends whether there are 51 senators who want to be called. my view is if we call witnesses, it needs to be fair. it needs to be even-handed. it needs to respect due process. that means if the prosecution gets to call a witness, the defense should as well. if the prosecution gets to call john bolton, the president ought to be able to call hunter biden.
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it should be fair. that's the way any proceeding should be conducted. >> meanwhile, minority leader chuck schumer speaking on the senate floor just jed argued the democrats case for witness testimony. >> the american people want a fair trial in the senate. the american people know that a trial without witnesses and documents is not a real trial. it's a sham trial. and the american people will be able to tell differencewe facts thecover-up. >> joining us here on msnbc, simone pathe. simone, what could we expect in the impeachment trial? walk us through what we can expect in the next coming of days in terms of settling down and how this plays out. >> right, even though the pomp and circumstance of the trial kicks off today, the substance of it to next week, where we're likely to see the senate take up
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over stuff this week. and then after the mlk holiday, they'll start with opening arguments and defense from the trump team. the question of whether witnesses will be likely be called isn't to be dealt with until after that initial week of arguments. >> so, let's talk about, simone, this question of witnesses. specifically this call of ted cruz that i just played earlier for witness reciprocity here, specifically asking for the former vice president's son hunter biden to temperature. how serious is this call for someone like hunter biden to testify in the senate impeachment trial? >> yeah, so it sounds like the reciprocity issue is something that the senate majority leader is open to. remember, he has got a handful of republican senators in his conference who would like to see witnesses called that includes cory gardner and susan collins of colorado, two of the most
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vulnerable senators up for re-election in 2020. it gives mcconnell wiggle room for his conference to give them potentially what they want but allows him to extend leverage over democrats to say, okay, if you're going call john bolton, we'll call hunter biden. >> i want to get to you quickly weigh in on this, we talked about john bolton as a potential witness that they want to call and hear from in the impeachment trial. what other names are being bandied about as possible witnesses on the democratic side. i wonder if mick mulvaney is in that queue? >> i think he certainly could be. i think the democrats are looking for witnesses that pack the cleanest punch. they're looking for well spoken, articulate and well-known figures that be able to present arguments that voters across the country will be abe to digest easily. >> simone path epathe in d.c., you. and officials investigating
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tehran's airport before it exploded and crashed. after denying it for days, iran's government eventually accepted responsibility for the plane crash. and they have also arrested, nbc has confirmed, one of the cell phone takers, if you will, of the person who took it. >> it's unbelievable. that they're making an arrest of someone who was filming the footage. that helped bring this to light. >> yeah. a cover-up. >> and tried to force their hand to make admission in launching the missiles in the first place. so, a revised version of a juarez solution against iran has enough votes to pass the senate. two additional senators, susan collins of maine and todd young in indiana came out in support of the revised measure responder bd by democratic senator tim kaine. that brings the senators numbers to 51.
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and it directs the president's use to terminate the armed use against iran unless authorization by congress, except when the president needs to defend the u.s. from an imminent attack. republican senators rand paul and mike lee previously voiced support for the measure. but i think we can all talk about the fact that with regards to that cause of imminent attack we've had quite an issue with the administration defining what an imminent attack is with the most recent strike against the general. >> yes. let's switch gears and bring in janessa webb for a quick check of weather. hey, janessa. >> hey, good morning, have you enjoyed the warmer temperatures? they're going to fade away. one more day, before it's broken down by the extreme cold front. so highs today, cincinnati to nashville, literally 25 degrees above average. here's a small system that will make its way through the mid-atlantic to the northeast
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this afternoon into your evening. it will be light to scattered rainfall before we transition into our big time weathermaker. what is really going to enhance this next storm system. look at this, it's the chill that's going to be in place. the accumulation of snow that we are about to see for the upper midwest to the great lakes will be very significant for friday to saturday afternoon. look at highs, they're going to drop quickly. the temperature on your skin, across the midwest going to be feeling like the single digits. and, man, this hurts by saturday morning, into your afternoon 24 degrees for new york city. so, we're going to see a temperature drop of about 15 to 25 degrees on top of that, heavy snow and dangerous travel for the start of your weekend. all the way into sunday. so, watching this closely. >> all right. thank you, janessa. still ahead, we're going to get a preview of the initial phase of the u.s./china trade deal set to be signed at the
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welcome back, everyone. joining us from washington, d.c. with a look at axios and the co-founder of axios mr. mike all allen. what is axios' one big thing? >> the axios one big thing is an old fashioned impeachment. so this is the age of pdfs and email, but today we will see a four-part drama play out in the white house in the capitol that's very old fashioned and that really invokes a sort of history that we're going to experience. speaker pelosi at 10:00 a.m. will hold a press conference where she will announce her house managers for the senate trial. we don't know exactly who or how many, but you can expect adam schiff, jerry nadler, two of the top chairmen will be among them.
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for the clinton impeachment trial back in 1999 there were 13. axios sources say look for 6 to 12 today, so that's part one of the drama. then second the house will vote to transmit the articles of impeachment across the capitol to the senate. third, and this is a really archaic term, the speaker will hold an engrusement ceremony with the house managers, a photo op there, and then they will physically cross the capitol to deliver the articles of impeachment against donald j. trump to the secretary of the senate. >> let's pivot here and talk about the debate last night, mike, while i have you and that moment between senator sanders and senator warren from the question to the response, from both of them, to that what it seemed as if to be somewhat of a scolding. i mean, who knows what was really said between the two individuals but it definitely seemed like a very serious
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exchange between them at the end of the debate. what are your biggest takeaways from it? >> my grandma would call that a set to by the way. in that clip that you played right after the house hour you pointed out senator warren by pointing to her own electability was trying to elevate that issue, get away from a scrap with sanders and say this is electability because in the end that is what democratic voters want. but here is the twist, as axios has talked to voters in iowa, gender isn't necessarily their definer of electability. things that they are looking at include a truth teller, of course, someone who is willing to go toe to toe with trump and we saw a couple of the candidates talk about that. they were asked about their willingness to be ready for trump and we saw that again in different ways, they were saying how they were excited to take on trump. pete buttigieg saying that he was going to talk about the fact
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that god is not of any particular political party and of course biden in that great clip saying that he has been the object of trump's affections longer than anyone else and he says i just go up in the polls. >> mike, really quickly, former white house press secretary sarah huckabee sanders or sarah sanders is coming out with a new book. what more can you tell us about that? >> this is as she's gearing up for a likely or possible run for arkansas governor in 2022, but in the heat of the sprint to the election this fall, september 8th, she's going to be out with her book "speaking for myself." in there she takes on the press, gives what she calls a candid account of her encounters with reporters and she says some come off better than others. >> there you go. >> we will be waiting to see if the rnc buys that in large quantities as well. mike allen live for us in washington, d.c. we will be reading axios a.m. in just a little bit. sign up for the newsletter at
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signup.axios.com. >> that does it for us on this wednesday morning, i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe," everybody, starts right now. i am able to work with republicans, i am able to bring people together. >> crazy bernie sanders and the washington democrats. >> i can't hold a grudge. i have to be able to not only fight, but also heal. >> did you ever notice with biden he is always saying the wrong thing. and in your great state of iowa. iowa. it's iowa, right? >> we have a chance to unite. you night as democrats, but also with independents and republicans. >> according to elizabeth pocahontas warren -- >> what is hard is bringing people together and finding common ground instead of scorched earth. >> are you having a good time, sara, i think you are because traitor they are. i guess in a certain way they are traitors when you think about it. >> all right. democrats talking about
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cooperation, donald trump accusing them of treason. are the white house challengers bringing a knife to a gun fight? good morning and welcome to "morning joe," it is wednesday, january 15th. along with joe, which will lee and me we have donny deutsch, white house reporter for the associated press jonathan lemire, chief public affairs officer at moveon.org and an msnbc contributor careen jean-pierre and in des moines co-host of show time's "the circus" and editor in chief of the recount john heilemann. >> we have a lot to talk about, mika, this morning. >> the debate was big news. so much going on with that. the note. this note. >> confession note. >> shake down of ukraine. >> if you saw that at the end of perry mason you would say, come on. >> come on, you have to nuance here. >> come
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