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we'll see you again tomorrow morning. >> garrett, need a good day game for you. >> i like that. that's got some legs. >> cross fit zatty. good morning. i am garrett haake. team trump. the white house reveals the identity of the president's counsel for the upcoming impeachment trial in the senate. there are more than a few names you might know.
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ukraine document dump. house democrats release new details from lev parnas, including emails, photos, calendar appointments, including one with donald trump himself. what impact could it have on the case against the president. winter weather, a massive storm bringing snow, ice, high winds, blanketing a big portion of the country today. we'll tell you what areas will be hardest-hit. and the impeachment trial of donald trump has reached the senate. after taking the oath himself, supreme court justice john roberts swore in senators, swearing them to, quote, do impartial justice, something several republicans, including the majority leader have already publicly said they won't do. the president, meanwhile, marked the occasion by tweeting in all caps, i just got impeached for making a perfect phone call. he described the situation and coined a new nickname for himself while hosting the national champion lsu football team at the white house yesterday. >> coach, if you like, we can
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take whoever wants to come to the oval office, take pictures behind the resolute desk, been there a long time, lot of presidents, some good, some not so good, but you got a good one now, even though they're trying to impeach the son of a bitch, can you believe that? can you believe that? got the greatest economy we've ever had, joe. we got the greatest military, we rebuilt it, took out the terrorists like your football team would have taken out those terrorists, right? >> hours after the president had that to say, the white house released trial counsel led by white house counsel pat cippolone. one of trump's personal lawyers, jay sekulow. ken starr, celebrity defense attorney alan dershowitz are on board. house speaker revealed her managers. and in a new interview, the speaker set the tone for proceedings with this message for the president.
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>> i want him to know that he is impeached forever and he is impeached forever he used the office of president to try to influence a foreign country for his personal and political benefit, in doing so undermined our national security. >> all of this comes as house investigators release additional new documents which appear to shed new light on lev rn his personal attorney, rudy giuliani, and devon reached out for comment, hasn't heard back. with me this morning, lee ann caldwell, cabinet secretary chris lu, and republican strategist, analyst susan del percio. lee ann, let's start there. what did we learn from the latest trove of additional evidence that was turned over,
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how do we think it reinforces the democrats' case? >> garrett, democrats have constantly said they're going to continue to investigate this president because new information is going to come out, and it keeps coming out. what we learned in the latest trove of documents, mind you, there could be more released this weekend as well, not all of it, we learned that perhaps ousted ambassador marie yovanovitch watched, there was a new character brought in who was watching, aware of her whereabouts in the ukraine. we also learned that devon nunes who is sitting as vice chair of the intelligence committee, defending the president in all these hearings throughout this impeachment investigation by the house, calling it a witch hunt, that one of his top aides was close contact with lev parnas. we also have seen new pictures
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now of lev parnas with the president's children, a lot more pictures with his associates, many pictures with rudy giuliani. what does all of this mean? it shows that tentacles run deep in this irregular channel that was run by rudy giuliani at what we think the direction of the president, and what does this mean for democrats? it absolutely adds fuel to their fire in saying that this senate trial that starts on tuesday absolutely has to be expanded to include new evidence, to talk to new witnesses, to really get the entire picture of the case, garrett. >> susan, this comes days after the president and parnas gave vastly different public remarks about their relationship. take a listen. >> president trump knew exactly what was going on, he was aware of all my movements. i wouldn't do anything without the consent of rudy giuliani or
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the president. >> well, i don't know him. i don't know parnas other than i guess i had pictures taken which i do with thousands of people, including people today that i didn't meet, just met them. i don't know him at all. don't know what he's about. don't know where he comes from. know nothing about him. doesn't matter. he is trying to probably make a deal for himself. i don't even know who this man is other than i guess he attended fund-raisers, i take a picture with him, perhaps he is a fine man, perhaps he is not. i don't know. i never had a conversation that i remember with him. >> you take parnas' name off this, sounds like how he treated michael cohen and a half dozen others, trying to distance himself from people. given all of the evidence and photos, calendar entry about a breakfast with donald trump, does the white house need to change strategy from i didn't know the guy to at least i don't trust the guy, you can't believe the guy? what do they do with this? >> they let donald trump do what he will do. they have not had a white house communication strategy.
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they've had donald trump say what he feels like at any point. if this is where donald trump is going to go with it, so be it. he keeps surviving this in the way he handles himself with his base, that's really all he cares about. we're going to hear more and more things come out. if we think we know everything, i think we're very wrong. >> what about devon nunes, one of the things in this were texts between parnas and an aide. when does he move as periphery defender of the president to a fact witness. >> that's a good point. it may work for donald trump, it works for nobody else. look where michael cohen is, michael flynn, manafort, so devon nunes should be careful. he is someone that has to fess up, put this on the table is probably his best strategy at this point. >> chris, turning to the upcoming trial, do democrats keep pushing for more new evidence and witnesses or should
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managers make the broader argument at this point. how do you see that tension between the argument we know so much, we need to find out more, or we need to find so much, let's move to removal of the president. >> i think it is both. you saw in impeachment managers that nancy pelosi named, these were experienced prosecutors, relatively low profile people who many watching on tv would never see skpeexcept for adam sf and jerry nadler. they gathered facts of the case really without speaking to top tier of officials involved in this. what they're going to continue to do is make the case, not only for testimony for people like john bolton, pompeo, rick perry, mulvaney, all the people that lev parnas named during the process. you've seen the developments. look, we're going to have a week and a half, two weeks of opening arguments. if i were a betting person, i would say the republicans won't allow in new witnesses, but that really is an eternity. so much more evidence could come up. others have said, we have only seen a fraction of what lev
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parnas has. >> wone of the talking points i the idea of reciprocity. if the democrats want to call john bolton, the president should be able to call hunter biden or the whistle-blower to testify. i know it is getting down the line, but is that the deal democrats should consider, worth it for democrats to trade, we'll let you have -- >> it is not just a bolton for hunter biden, bolton, pompeo, pence, perry, barr. in addition to that, it is all of the documents they're holding back. we know from gordon sondland, he said i couldn't access my own phone records or calendars. pence had a call with zelensky in september that's never been released. if there's a coming clean of documents and witnesses by the white house, democrats should absolutely make that trade, but i don't think the white house will allow that. >> lee ann, you've done good
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reporting over the last week. how are senators to get to the right head space for the trial to the degree they're paying attention to it while off this weekend? >> they're having to start paying attention to this. they're starting to understand the gravity of the entire situation, garrett, and everyone is preparing in their own way. some senators are reading historical books, including "the breach" by peter baker, "high crimes and misdemeanors," talks about the clinton impeachment, talks about high creams aimes a misdemeanors, others are reading through clinton transcripts to understand the process, what could pop up, the role of the chief justice in the whole situation. some senators told me they're going back to read the evidence from the house investigation to get squared away on what they expect to be presented before
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them. but then it is not completely academic for a lot of senators, garrett. some of them are talking about prayer and how people are coming up to them, saying they're praying for them in this situation, senator tim scott, republican from south carolina told me that he is praying himself to ensure this is a process he can trust, that the senate deliberates, and that he can move forward with a clear conscience. they're mostly all preparing. there's a couple of senators that aren't necessarily doing much, senator kramer told our colleagues at nbc that this is a waste of time and waste of money, so while most of them are doing stuff to prepare this weekend, there are outliers that think it shouldn't be happening. we'll see how those ones, what role they play. >> plenty of reading time during the snowstorm this weekend in
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north dakota. susan, a lot of senators haven't engaged with material yet in a serious way. do you anticipate some republican senators who when they start to get engaged, when they do the homework, do the reading, and when they're sitting in that room next week feel substantially differently about this, now that they're not just watching it on fox news at night at the end of their day jobs? >> i do. i think they're going to be sitting in the room, not only listening to testimony from managers, they're also going to be with colleagues. they're going to have to take a hard look around the room, say am i doing the right thing. they all know each other. i think there's a sense of seriousness of this, and what the right thing to do is. there's no question that almost every elected official i have come across knows washington has been a circus the last three years, and that the final block here is the senate. so they have to at least be serious about conversation and
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listening to evidence put forward. >> chris, at the end of the day thursday after all of the solemn ceremonies, there was a press conference with chuck schumer and a number of democratic senators trying to lean on republican colleagues to do that, to take this seriously. i wonder from a democratic strategy perspective, is it useful for democrats to make that argument or does it politicize what you would hope would be republican senators coming to this on their own accord? >> look, i think that pressure needs to be placed because as we saw from someone like martha mcsally, without that pressure, she probably was feeling pressure when she went after the cnn reporter, but pressure not just from democrats but from the public and what you see from public opinion polls, the overwhelming majority of americans think there should be more witnesses as part of this. that's the way you would want to have any trial. if you really want to have a trial from the president's perspective, you should have all of the evidence out there.
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>> thank you all. coming up. house managers prepare to make their case against president trump at his impeachment trial. we speak with madeline dean about the democrats' release of new documents days before opening statements. first, a rare speech by iran's supreme leader who is stepping up his attacks on the united states. find out how he is pushing back for the killing of qassem soleimani next. g of qassem soleimani next apps are used everywhere... except work. why is that?
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this is msnbc live. i am garrett haake. president trump and the supreme leader were tweeting. the ayatollah tweet came after speaking at tehran's friday prayers for the first time in eight years. the rare appearance at the prayers comes after four days of protest throughout tehran and the country. he took time to address the last two weeks of chaos, focusing rhetoric on soleimani and the u.s., calling us an arrogant power. he briefly touched on the tragedy of the ukranian plane shot down over iran. amid the chaos in tehran, eu, uk are pulling away from the iran nuclear deal, causing concern over the longevity of the pact. joining us, ali arouzi, and halle dagras in london. the supreme leader spoke at friday prayers for the first
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time yesterday in eight years. how should we view the rare step? >> reporter: that's right, garrett. it was a very rare speech. he delivered a much raepd sermon during friday prayers. it has been eight years since he last gave it. only usually speaks when he wants to deliver an important message at a critical time. he also wants to convey strength. he stuck to his usual play book. he struck a defiant tone. defended the revolutionary guard, credited them with maintaining iran's security while lashing out at the west, calling president trump a clown and his administration evil. he also had harsh words for the uk, france, germany who triggered the dispute mechanism in the nuclear deal, essentially accusing iran of violating the jcpoa, by triggering that
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mechanism, they paeved the way for u.n. sanctions to snap back on iran which would hurt the economy even more than it is hurting now. in his speech he also spoke about the downing of the ukranian passenger jet as a tragedy. he called it a bitter incident. he stopped short of saying anybody would be held accountable for the tragedy and said steps should be taken to ensure this doesn't happen again. also, he referred to the protests that took place after people learned iranian armed forces downed that jet. he said they were influenced by foreign media, outside forces who tried to use the shooting down of the plane against the country's national interests. he said iran's enemies are to washington and washington allies, used the shooting down of the plane to overshadow the killing of qassem soleimani. but garrett, iran is at a critical juncture now, and it is
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facing a number of crises all at once, raising tensions with the west that have turned into some hot battles. the loss of soleimani, the architect of their expansion plan in the middle east, the plane tragedy, street protests, unraveling of the nuclear deal, weight of u.s. sanctions along with the prospect of u.n. sanctions snapping back on iran. this is a lot for this country to deal with. but the message was clear. it is business as usual with little flexibility on a wide range of issues. no negotiations america. europe can't be trusted, and the nation needs to rally together in the face of the enemy. uncertain times for this country lay ahead. it is unclear how all of this is going to pan out, but there's a huge burden for the ruling administration in this country to deal with. and it is not showing any signs of sorting out anytime soon.
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>> ali, thank you very much. holly, protests seem to have died down that were going on in the last weeks. where do the iranian people go from here, there was a crackdown here, but not a particularly violent one like we have seen in the past. >> the reality is that protests were prompted by the aftermath of the iranians admitting they shot down the ukraine international airlines flight, killing over 100 people on board. the protests were actually prompted at candlelight vigils around the city in the capital of tehran, so the vigils evolved into protests and chants about accountability, about transparency, calling for the supreme leader to step down, for the government to have a referendum, so there was a lot of anger, resentment from the iranian people at the protests, particularly at universities because a lot of the passengers
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on the plane were iranians that moved to canada and other places to look for a better life, to get degrees because they realize they have no future in iran. while protests seem to have died down, the reality is that the iranian people are in a conundrum. don't want war with the united states but are fed up and disenchanted with their government. they want change, they want economic opportunities. they don't want to be repressed. it really is one of the situations where they just are desperate. the fact that hundreds of people died in the november protest at the hands of their government, the fact that they were still willing to put their lives out on the line in the past week shows a sense of desperation, a hopelessness that they're willing to put their lives on the line at any cost. >> holly, you have the uk recalling the ambassador from tehran, eu, united kingdom are backing away some degree from the iran nuclear agreement.
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is there any room left for diplomacy with the u.s. and iran or does it end up with iran more isolated and people more angry after everything we've seen the last five or six weeks? >> i think it is worth noting "the washington post" had said the e 3, britain, france, germany, the trump administration used extortion against them, had quietly threatened they would put a 25% tariff on european cars if they did not put more pressure on tehran, and the german defense minister confirmed this. so from our understanding the europeans are kind of in a balancing act between appeasing tehran and appeasing the united states. with tehran, it is a complicated situation. at the end of the day, united states withdrew from the nuclear agreement in may of 2018, and it was the fact that the united states had withdrew and imposed these sanctions that the europeans had not provided a special purpose vehicle to avoid
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the sanctions that iran felt the need to withdraw from aspects of the iran nuclear agreement, so the reality is does europe want to appease the trump administration or does it want to play diplomat, try to find a way out to keep the deal alive. i think that right now they're playing hard ball with the iranians, and it might very well backfire in coming months, especially if they're gambling on the 2020 election in november, and hoping that maybe this will bring a u.s. president in office that will have a different view and take on iran. i think the reality is that this is a dangerous gamble europe is taking, by november, this deal may be dead all together. >> thank you very much. a winter blast hits the country. over 100 million americans are waking up under some kind of winter weather advisory with the possibility of snow, ice, and high winds. hazardous white out conditions are possible.
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nearly 112 million americans facing a winter weather alert as
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a massive storm is expected to hit the midwest and northern u.s. this weekend. iowa and illinois are declaring snow emergencies. snow, ice, rain, create a dangerous mix, leaving damage throughout the country. cars facing slippery, snowy roads. some drivers abandoning cars amid the whiteout. the impact on travel is being felt. a flight slipped off the runway friday morning. shortly before it was closed for deicing. they issued travel warnings due to the storm heading east. bonnie schneider has more. >> it is pounding parts of the midwest, on its way to the northeast. depending where you are, you may see heavy snow or warm wintry mix. looking at the radar, you can see that wrap around effect as colder air funnels into minneapolis, heavy snow amounts working further east. 112 million people under some sort of weather alert this
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morning. areas you see here in pink, especially through central areas of new york state and western massachusetts, this is where we're going to see 8 inches of snow or greater. bigger cities like new york and philadelphia are less than that. that's a lot to do with temperature. looking towards cincinnati, you've seen wintry mix changing to heavy rain. the same about to happen for cleveland as some warmer air comes from the south. warmer air helps to energize this in advance of it working further to the east. i want to show you the temperatures. in order to have snow that sticks you have to have cold air already in place, and that's what we're seeing. albany, right now, 11 degrees. in new york city, 21. also much colder headed further to the north and west. cold air is coming in behind the system as well. even more so as we look towards wind chills for sunday morning across wisconsin and minnesota. it is finally feeling like winter. >> finally started to feel like winter in the northeast. thank you. for more on the weather, let's
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go to nbc's ron mott in chicago. what are you seeing out there today? >> reporter: hey, garrett, good to see you in the big chair. it is warming up. about to hit the high temperature the next couple of hours. might hit 40 degrees in chicago. talking about this tree. when i got here this morning, it was coated in ice. the temperature warmed up steadily the last three hours, all of that ice is off the tree and gone. as bonnie was mentioning, you have to have cold air for snow. we certainly had that yesterday. now it is about to get really cold. temperatures will start to fall in chicago, drop the rest of the day. parts of the midwest and plains will see high temperatures, garrett, single digits tomorrow and monday with low temperatures below zero and a lot of wind as well. wind chills will be minus 15, maybe 20 below zero. this is going to be a reminder that this is indeed winter in this part of the country. won't hear a lot of complaints
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about global warming the next 48 hours or so. there are plenty of whiteout conditions. i started my day in omaha, nebraska. a 12 hour trip took me 30 minutes. it was a white knuckle situation. i was hoping not to wreck the rental car. made it to the airport in one piece. >> sounds like a weekend to stay in and watch football. republicans under pressure. should indicted rudy giuliani associate be called to testify in the senate trial of president trump? hear more of the bombshell interview with rachel maddow that house democrats are citing in impeachment documents. next. >> why would president zelensky's inner circle, minister or president pore shank oh meet with me, who am i. they were told to meet with me. that's the secret they're trying to keep. secret they're trying keep. we made usaa insurance for members like martin. an air force veteran made of doing what's right, not what's easy.
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his message was it wasn't just military aid, it was all aid. basically the relationships would be sour, that we would stop giving them any kind of aid. >> unless. >> unless there was announcement made, it was all about joe biden. it was never about corruption, it was never strictly about burisma which included hunter biden and joe biden. >> additional evidence from indicted associate lev parnas was released last night by the house judiciary committee,
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including new messages between parnas and an aide to republican congressman devon nunes, arranges interview with ukranian officials that would claim wrongdoing by the bidens. some, including kevin mccarthy, compared parnas to michael cohen, arguing he lacks all credibility. joining me, "new york times" white house correspondent and msnbc contributor, and ee carney, and katie fang. she's in new york. the president said thursday he believes the trial will go quickly. politico is reporting senate republicans are considering coming up with a way to accelerate the pace more for a faster verdict. how confident is the white house to defeat a vote for witnesses which would be the thing that cuts us off between the short trial and longer trial? >> i think with more and more information coming out, it becomes -- it increases pressure on republican senators to listen to witnesses. it is clear that there is more to the story, more threads to be
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pulled, that's what each of the document dumps shows us. i think it is becoming increasely likely there will be witnesses, which is why we're also hearing mcconnell and others say they want to speed it up. the documents, the information that the house is releasing cuts both ways. on one hand, it does increase pressure for witnesses, on the other hand, bolsters the argument that democrats rushed an incomplete version of impeachment articles to get to a trial when clearly the story wasn't told, and it was sloppy and the fact that it is ongoing, and we're finding out more even as the trial is set to start, shows they weren't completely prepared. both sides see a way to spin the fact that the story is still unfolding. >> whether or not they were prepared is less relevant once you're in the middle of it. katie, i will turn to you. i asked chuck schumer if given new information he would consider calling parnas as a witness. here's what he told me.
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>> senator schumer, you have wanted four witnesses. i wonder in the wake of what we learned from lev parnas texts, emails, interviews, you think it needs to be five. >> mr. parnas raises lots of serious questions. it certainly increases the strength of our argument for having these four, and as for mr. parnas, it is something we wouldn't rule out. >> so what do you do with parnas? are his receipts enough to make him credible or is he better on paper with documents and other information than he would be sitting in the chair as a witness? >> well, let's be clear, we have not heard or seen anything that directly impeaches lev parnas's credibility. they say he is facing indictment. yeah. but you don't always pick and choose the quality of your witnesses when you have a criminal prosecution. what we know so far, lev parnas has corroborated some of the information that came out through the course of the
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impeachment investigation. parnas is a little bit of a wildcard. can you really verify the information he has provided? we know that, for example, you wouldn't necessarily have to call him as a witness if the current transmission of documents included transcripts of his conversations with people like rachel maddow anderson cooper. as we discussed before the segment started, the reality is you want live testimony and you can't cherry pick on either side which you do. during the clinton impeachment trial, they did videotaped depositions, that was presentation of the evidence. we have the first obstacle of getting agreement to have witnesses, let alone whether or not we hear from lev parnas. >> i know rachel maddow doesn't make you take an oath before you go on the air, that's part of the problem, what he says in a tv interview may not be the same thing under oath. >> the oath taken by chief justice john roberts and other members of the senate included they would deliver impartial justice. you have people like lindsey graham, mitch mcconnell, say we
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are in cahoots with the white house. if we want a real trial, we have to hear from witnesses so they are subjected to cross examination. how do you get to the real truth about what happens? >> the other new headline, the president's defense team. one of those on it, alan dershowitz. he joined me colleague to explain what his role would be. >> i will not be involved in factual aspects of the case. my sole responsibility is to analyze and present constitutional arguments against impeachment. i am not somebody strategizing with the legal team, won't be involved in the decision whether or not to call witnesses. >> not strategizing, not involved. are you getting a clear sense why someone like dershowitz and ken starr were added to the team, is this the president wanting lawyers he season tv for televised trial? >> short answer, yes. dershowitz has been on television defending the
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president right from the beginning, defending his right to fire james comey and was knocking the mueller probe. donald trump has been promoting alan dershowitz's great legal mind for years. i would note after dershowitz tried to distance himself all day from the announcement he was joining the legal team, in the evening the white house put out a press release naming the legal team. alan dershowitz was second on the list after ken starr. they clearly want him to be part of the legal team, while he is saying he is doing one thing, trying to down play his role. that was an odd thing for the president's new lawyers to already say i'm not really representing him. these are people that defend president trump on tv. ken starr is a household name, controversial figure. trump behind the scenes has been expressing anxiety that the team lawyers he had weren't well known enough, weren't going to mount an aggressive enough defense on television during a
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senate trial. this is a little star power to add. some people, i talked to steve bannon, former chief strategist yesterday that said this is too conservative, too mainstream. he needs fire breathers like jim jordan and mt gates. >> we talk about that the president thinks he is his own best spokesman all the time. does the president, well he take an active role, whether twitter or interviews, he could show up in the well of the senate. >> that would be something. we saw what he'll do on twitter, no one can control the twitter. all caps, i did nothing wrong, read the transcript. you know, i have been impeached over a perfect phone call. he is driving the messaging and seems to be the clear message he is putting out. >> we heard from dershowitz saying the crime of abuse of power isn't an impeachable crime. i feel like this is another white house tactic we see.
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deny up to a point, and say in fact this is true, but it doesn't matter. is that the legal strategy to a certain degree? >> it is a complete distortion of law. that law doesn't exist, what he is pedaling. he is a lawyer, he should have the integrity to actually stick to what the law truly is. but the idea is that there's a tacit admission that if abuse of power is not impeachable offense, dershowitz says there was abuse of power, it wasn't an impeachable offense. he is saying the facts are true. if that's the case, that's a dangerous line to walk with your senate. >> a lot of talk early on in the trial that that's the road the republicans would go down, say it was bad, not bad enough to warrant removal. we have to leave it there.
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it is the start of an important holiday weekend. martin luther king jr. day is monday. marks an opportunity for the candidates trying to appeal to black voters. no doubt, something the biden campaign considered when it announced the endorsement of a key african-american in the house, terri sewell, whose district in alabama includes notable places like selma and birmingham. she is joining team biden. former v.p. is leading in endorsements with 11 black endorsements. and only three other cbc members have endorsed candidates currently running. one each for buttigieg, warren and sanders. joining me now, shaquille brewster. and there are new statistics out that show eight in ten black americans think that they believe the president is racist. so i'm curious how the democratic candidates are trying to take advantage of the president's problems with black voters for their own gain.
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>> reporter: let's start with that poll because that poll, that is an enormous number when you read that numb. and when you look, the question read do you think that president trump is a racist. and responders were able to say yes, no or give no opinion. 83% of black americans in that poll said yes. and that is that sentiment that you have campaigns and candidates trying to lean into and address directly. it goes beyond their policies for example. if you look at climate change, a policy that many of these candidates talk about, the green new deal, they talk about addressing front line communities, the african-american in poorer communities that are dealing with the effects of climate change. you talk about education, restoring and repairing schools, it is going beyond the policies and targeting these communities directly. and then you also talk about endorsements. these campaigns highlight the fact that you have african-americans part of the campaign and supporting the
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campaign. tom steyer for example is on a bus tour through the south and he picked up a big endorsement from the black delegation in south carolina. senator sander, some of his top surrogates, nina turner, fill phillip agnew, people of color. and so they are targeting african-americans as part of the campaign. >> now, you're in new hampshire this morning ahead of the women's march there today. the polling also shows recently that women are now twice as likely than men to say that they are still undecided on candidates. are you seeing the candidates tailoring their message in that way trying to make sure that they are appealing to female voters? >> reporter: without a doubt. and this is of course today the third anniversary of the women's march. so you will have the marches going on all across the country. and in washington, d.c. and you will see candidates attending those marches. here in new hampshire for example michael bennet will be at a march, senator sanders will
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be at another march at about 1:00 p.m. and we'll be there with him later today. but you also have candidates again targeting women directly. senator elizabeth warren for example, she has a policy directly addressing the maternal mortality rate that is sky high again targeting african-americans there. and then you have an ad for example, senator sanders back on tuesday as he was in the middle of the spat with elizabeth warren over the idea of whether or not he believes a woman could win this election, he leased an ad saying that he would support a woman he's right to choose and planned parenthood and paid family leave. these candidates know that voters want to be targeted directly, they want to feel heard and they are trying to reflect that in their appeals. >> and let's dig in on sanders a bit. you are in bernie sanders san r cunning. he is leading in most of the polls up there. how worried is his campaign
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before the impeachment trial starts? >> we have seen this coming for several week and several months now at this point. and the sense is this is just something that they can't control, so they will deal with it as best they can. i'll tell you last night senator sanders, his campaign announced that he will be having a rally on wednesday. and that will be the second day of the -- the night of the second day of the impeachment trial. so what you will have is senator sanders listening silently to the impeachment trial by day and then will get on a private plane and have a campaign rally in iowa 9:00 p.m. and they will also have the surrogates out in force. a good example of this was yesterday was actually the first day of early voting that you saw in this campaign. and it was the state of minute and they had their key top surrogate one of the first people to endorse him after he was off the campaign trail for his heart attack, congresswoman
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ilhan omar was out in force in minneapolis having campaign events, getting people to the polls. you will see that all over the country as the candidates, as many of these senators are out in washington, d.c. off the campaign trail, they will have their team surrogates out there and try to sneak inasmuch campaigning as they can. >> all right, shaq brewster, thank you very much. and coming up at the top of the hour, could indicted rudy giuliani associate lev parnas become a pivotal player in the impeachment trial? we'll take a look at new evidence released by house democrats that includes previously unreleased messages between parnas and a top house republican staffer. and we'll talk with congresswoman madeline dean about all of this new information. information. as a caricature artist, i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need.
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welcome back. i'm garrett haake in new york. and we start this hour with the latest in the upcoming impeachment trial in the senate. the white house has revealed the members of the president's council, being led by pat cipollone and one of trump's personal lawyers jay sekulow. and rudy giuliani is not an official member. former independent down as i recall kcouncil ken starr is alo on board. and alan dershowitz is also on
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the team. >> abuse of power even if proved is not an impeachable offense. that is exactly what the framers rejected. they didn't want to give congress the authority to remove a president because he abused his power. they have to prove trees on atr bribery, but other crimes and miss demeanor, other refers to crimes of the kind such as treason and bribe r treason and bribery. >> so the quote, abuse of power, does not constitute a high crime under the constitution? >> that is exactly right. >> opening statements are expected to begin by mid week. and the president addressed the time line during a religious freedom event at the white house last week. >> it is a hoax. it is a hoax. everybody knows that. it is a complete hoax. everything was perfect and they impeach.
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