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three big stories we're following this morning on msnbc live. game plan. as democrats lay out their case for impeachment, the white house comes back with a legal strategy of its own. bracing for the worst. thousands of gun rights activists getting ready to rally at the state's capitol. what they're doing to keep people safe. and mexit deal. big questions about where they go from here. >> yeah. even "the new york post" on the cover today calling it the great british breakoff. words for the tv show of course. it really is a big deal making headlines all around the world. >> i still have to wonder is this ultimately what they wanted completely? instead of saying 50/50 split maybe from the beginning they just wanted to be out. >> yeah. they may be very happy with this. it's being interpreted in many different ways. >> you're referring to what the
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queen wanted? as we say good morning, everybody, it is sunday, january 19th. >> we begin with history in waiting. tuesday the third presidential impeachment trial set to begin and the unfolding battle already starting this weekend with a glimpse of what we can expect from both capitol hill and the white house. >> this morning's big headlines giving us a preview. democrats filing their formal pointed arguments at 111 pages late yesterday. we've got a few of them here. white house firing back a short time later with its own case explicitly outlined in six pages. >> we have a good team following the latest for us in this hour. let's go to daniel straws with the guardian. before we get to the case, each side is making, walk us through the week and impeachment. give us a time line for this week? >> it's a top heavy week for impeachment. after we come back from break
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we're going to see a deadline for the house rebuttal to the impeachment filings and then the president's response. we've gotten both of those so what we're expecting on tuesday is really senate minority leader chuck schumer looking to force votes on impeachment. and then on wednesday i think we're going to see some back and forth about this and the trial's i think going to begin sometime later in the week. we don't know at this time when final votes will be. then there are a number of wild cards to watch in the senate trial. some familiar names in the senate like mitt romney, lisa murkowski, and susan collins. more moderate republican senators. and then on the democratic side there are a few that we have to keep an eye on as well. the more conservative democratic senators. >> doug jones? >> doug jones. >> okay. >> and joe manchin who always
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finds himself in the national spotlight when there is sort of a swing vote opening. >> west virginia senator. when you look at capitol hill this morning, beautiful sunrise over there. it's going to be an historic week no matter where it falls. this is quite the spectacle. how does it all fit into history? when we're going to read the history books decades from now, where do we put this? >> impeachment is a very serious mark in any president's tenure, and the fact that the president is facing that right now is going to be at the top of his legacy. it's only happened a few times in history and the president himself has said even if he has the votes to ward off any kind of impeachment attempt in the senate, it's really not something he wants as a part of his time in office. and i think that is what we're going to -- what's going to be left long after he's left office. any president who has faced
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impeachment, that is, as mentioned, very early on in any sort of description of his tenure in office. >> daniel, how would you describe the mood in and around the capitol? is it one of anticipation or with lodge dng days, no cell ph one of dread? >> anticipation. the buildup for this has been happening for months and it's a highly contentious debate and vote going on. it's more serious in many ways than the clinton impeachment trial. the feeling among my sources is that let's get this on. let's see what happens. >> well, i'll tell you this. early on the bars in dc started having drink special. >> impeach-mint. >> yes. i'll be curious to see what sort of happy hour specials will be there this week. >> i'm doing dry january but, yeah -- >> you're that dude. >> bars in d.c. get creative about that. >> you're that guy.
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>> don't shame him. >> there will be plenty of people in d.c. to pick up the mantle. >> daniel strauss, thank you. the white house issuing its formal response. kelly o'donnell has it. challenging on procedural and constitutional grounds. what else do they say? >> reporter: well, why this really stands out is for all of the months of the impeachment inquiry, the vote, passing it in the house, sending it to the senate, it's the first time the president in a formal way is responding. we hear him tweet and see what he says on the stump and this is the first time a legal team representing the president is dealing with impeachment in a formal sense, responding to the summons september by the senate. they argue that on process that the two articles of impeachment are constitutionally flawed and on substance that there's no allegation of actual crimes against the president and they argue that the president behaved
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lawfully and that this is an attempt to overturn the findings, the rulings, the results of the 2016 election and to effect 2020 with the president on the ballot just months from now. that's the case they're trying to make. this response to the summons was only 6 pages. it's the first pass from the trump legal defense. on monday, tomorrow, they will have to present their full brief which is an outline of their game plan for the trial ahead. some of the roots of the legal arguments that they will make. it is not going to show whatever sort of secret plans they may have or strategy, but it will provide a legal kind of roadmap for where they're headed. so that's why that's significant. but expect that some of the things we've heard sort of coming to life through the president's tweets where he decries this whole process, it will take on a more formal tone through the legal speak of his team of eight lawyers and we'll also see a variety of different figures who will be sort of
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representing the president on public sphere on cable tv and news and so forth. kellyanne conway, not part of the legal team but one of the senior advisers of the white house, and she will describe here how this argument that the trump legal team will make goes at both process and substance. here's conway. >> the president and his great legal team made exactly that point, janine. this is procedurally deficient and flawed and constitutionally unsupported. if you look at just the two articles of impeachment, you can basically write them on your hand and put them on a little post it note, index card. they're very thin. so for all the promises and all the hey makers out there screaming their heads off about this, what the senate will have to focus on are these two articles of impeachment and the house came up with very little. >> reporter: of course house democrats argue that they have put together an overwhelming case against the president on abuse of power and obstruction
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of congress. the white house sees it very differently and will try to diminish those allegations in any way they can chipping away on legally trying to convince the senators who will serve as a judge of fact. we're on the brink of it. the tone will change and the energy will change. in the next several hours the trump team will be working on the brief which is due tomorrow. >> brief set to be longer than the six pages they released. >> kelly o'donnell in palm beach. thank you. let's go to a legal perspective with glen kirschner, katie fang, both msnbc legal analysts. glen, you have house managers that say president trump should immediately be removed from office framing him as a threat to u.s. elections and national security interests. does that sound like a legal
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argument to you? >> you know, it is a legal argument. the two articles of impeachment actually do allege two crimes. i've heard some people criticize that article of impeachment number one only a pledges abuse of power. it alleges bribery. just as we charge somebody with a crime in an indictment, what we do is set out the conduct that person engaged in that constitutes the crime charged. here what the house has done is they have described in great detail all of donald trump's behavior, his conduct, his acts that constitute the crime of bribery. they call it an abuse of power because bribery is an abuse of power, but i would suggest that when you read that article of impeachment, it flat out alleges the crime of bribery. so article one is bribery, which constitutes an abuse of power. article 2 is obstruction of congress which is an enumerated
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crime in the federal code. so i actually think the articles of impeachment are legally sound and are pretty thoughtful. >> katie, here's what republican senator lisa murkowski said yesterday about the perception that senators are jurors in this matter. >> we all have some connection here so we're not jurors. your point about how can we be impartial at a politically charged time is a fair one. i think when i look at my responsibility, my responsibility is to listen fairly to both sides. >> reporter: if court rules don't strictly apply, are republicans right that this is more of a political process? >> well, it is by definition a political process. and really because there is no standard of proof that has to be achieved to be able to get a
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conviction of donald trump, each and every senator has to rely upon his or her conscience to determine whether or not they are going to convict donald trump. but what we hear from senator murkowski, which is really not totally correct, is the fact that she wants to hear to the evidence on both sides, but that's exactly what the obstruction of congress, obstruction of justice article speaks to. the idea that you haven't seen certain documentary evidence and you haven't heard from key witnesses. so does the strength of the house manager's case rely upon the insinuation or the circumstantial suggestion that the failure to have people like pompeo, mulvaney, et cetera, appear and testify -- bolton, for example, does that really materially affect the strength of the house's case? it's going to be left to see, but what we have is the clinton impeachment trial is going to show a roadmap and it will provide a template for what we're going to continue to see. there will be citations to law.
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it will be the level of argument we get from house managers and the trump defensive team. >> let's say you're the white house lawyer, even though the conduct that was committed was not proper per se, it is not impeachable, is this a plausible, you know, argument if you are on their side? >> no, because abusing your power and your office violating the public trust by soliciting a bribe and obstructing congress by just across the board blocking all subpoenas and requests for evidence is impeachable and removable, imminently so. when i read pat sippilone's six-page letter, it's absurd, sad, comic call and upper situation sieve, he knows that what he's arguing are not sound
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legal arguments. he rails against the fact that donald trump is not being given his due process rights. well, it doesn't take a legal scholar to recognize that the fifth amendment to the constitution which says no person shall be deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law, the due process clause doesn't apply to an impeachment hearing. it applies to criminal trials. nobody's trying to deprive president trump of life or liberty or property without due process of law. so he knows he's making disingenuous arguments, but he's doing it for effect. it's a six-page tweet. >> okay. >> it is designed to deceive and dupe the american people, and i only hope that throughout this process the house managers will keep the american people focused on what's really important, which is that donald trump did abuse his office, did obstruct congress and he needs to be held accountable.
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>> all right. should be a fun week ahead. quietly no doubt in washington. thank you guys. now to an urgent situation in richmond, virginia, where tomorrow activists are preparing to rally against proposed gun control laws. let's bring in richmond times dispatch politics reporter mel leonore. you just wrote an article, as gun-rights supporters plan peaceful rally in richmond, state warns. >> we're expecting 50,000 people to descend on virginia's capitol tomorrow. a lot of those people are here to protest gun control measures. law enforcement officials, however, are saying that we could expect white supremacist groups, militia groups to join in on the rally and maybe cause some violence. >> this is an historic time for virginia, the world and the nation should be watching. what do these proposed gun control laws look like?
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>> well, governor ralph northam has backed eight different measures. one of the ones attracting the most reaction from people in virginia is an assault weapons ban that would ban semi-automatic weapons with more than ten rounds in their magazines. there's also universal background checks, a red flag law to remove guns from people deemed at risk to themselves. that's what we've seen in other states with democratic controlled legislatures. >> i've been to richmond. beautiful city. it gets congested in the downtown area on an average monday. we have all of these thousands of people coming there. is the fear that this could turn into a similar situation as the unite the right rally that took place how many years ago in charlottesville or perhaps worse? >> i think a lot more people are expected to come to richmond,
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and so that is one concern for law enforcement. they've limited entry into capitol square to one spot where they'll have law enforcement run people through metal detectors but you're right, some of the same groups that were in charlottesville are planning to come to richmond. i think that that's the concern. >> and are mlk celebrations continuing as normal tomorrow? of course it's mlk's birthday tomorrow and perhaps why they picked that. we have typically hold our loppy day. no, mlk events are not going on as needed. they were expecting children and teenagers and said that if the site turned unruly and violent, that they didn't want to expose them to that. that was canceled and it will be
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rescheduled for a later date. >> that's crazy. >> it's a shame. >> a thought for the birthdate, for these sort of celebrations, and now you're going to have this rally and it results in cancellation of remembering this man. >> and the importance of that day. >> yeah. >> it really needed to be included. >> thank you. we also want to note, i think it's interesting that in charlottesville those statues are still erected after the protests that happened in charlottesville. still a very tumultuous time in that state. also, virginia has some of the most lax gun laws. this will be an uphill battle for them in general there. >> the democrats have all of the chambers there. >> we'll see. do you think you got some snow yesterday? they're calling it snowmageddon in parts of canada. we'll have pictures to show you. making their voices heard. thousands of women around the country hitting the streets. as the wife of one of the 2020 candidates shares her story to call for another kind of change. is there a problem here?
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welcome back to msnbc world headquarters in new york. i'm lindsey reiser. here's a live look at philadelphia this morning where it's 37 degrees, and record-breaking temperatures and a blizzard in canada. it's one of our morning headlines this morning. people are digging out of 12 feet of snow. thousands without power. and many are working to clear snow that's now just completely blocking doorways. >> scary when you open the door
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and then you see snow is piled so high you have to crawl out the door and crawl on top of your car to get a gauge of it. >> it's being pegged as one of the worst winter storms to bury newfoundland in recent history. and today in hong kong, riot police fired tear gas and arrested protesters to shut down a rally for universal suffrage. thousands took part in a government approved demonstration to call for electoral reform before september's election. clashes began after protesters attacked two plain clothesed officers. mexico security forces closed a border entry point with guatemala as thousands of migrants tried to cross. the mexican national guard shut a fence that read welcome to mexico to block more people from entering. this comes as the trump administration increases pressure on mexico to enforce
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southern border security to stem undocumented immigrants. and the national archives is apologizing for altering a 2017 women's march photo tweeting out, we made a mistake. we reported yesterday the archives censored parts of this photo here that was at the beginning of their women's suffrage exhibit. archives blurred protest signs critical of president trump and mentioning women's anatomy. they say all in the interest of appearing nonpartisan. the national archives also said they will review their policies to keep this from happening again. they have taken the photo down. they say they plan to replace it with an unaltered photo. this is the record of what happened so pretty controversial that they would alter any images. >> i scanned that photo to see what might have been altered. based on the ones that they already altered, they still let some go through. just imagine how many more might
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be there. >> we have four years of this. this is the historical record. never should have happened. a good learning lesson on that. both houses turning out in cities across the country for the fourth annual women's march. >> there were a few rallies held in more than 180 cities here. take a look here. on saturday marchers called for change just days before the start of the president's impeachment trial. >> i believe in equality for all. i believe in feminism means just equality for all. >> the legislation that they are trying to pass at this actual time, i think it's time more than ever that women have to come together and ask to speak up for our rights. >> organizers say they are going to continue to rally until trump is out of office. they don't know how many years that could be. it could be the last year, four more years, they're focusing on climate change, pay equality, reproductive rights. >> andrew yang's wife, she's
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been in the news lately. evelyn yang joined the women's march. she recently came forward with her story of being sexually assaulted by her doctor while she was pregnant. speaking at the march mrs. yang said her goal is to empower other survivors. >> the theme of this march, to rise and to roar, it's very personal. as terrifying as it was to share my story on a national stage, i had to believe that coming forward would help me reclaim my voice and help others reclaim theirs. >> joining us now, nbc campaign julia jester in manchester, new hampshire, this morning. good morning, julia. happy to have you in. i want to jump right in here. hearing her interview, it really was quite moving. it had to be very difficult for evelyn yang to come forward with her story.
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her message being well received at the women's march on saturday. how's it resonating with voters on the campaign trail? >> reporter: well, the campaign trail is what actually partly inspired evelyn yang to come forward with her own story. she just recently started going out on the trail with her husband andrew and she said the response of mothers reaching out to her about being open about being a mother with a child of autism and even in more specifically receiving a letter that she read from a supporter of andrew yang's talking about her own story of being sexually assaulted saying her courage empowered mine. the campaign trail inspired her to come forward. she will be back out on the trail with her husband in iowa as he embarks on this bus tour this week. so it should be an issue that will come up and the reaction from voters has been positive and encouraging. her husband, andrew yang,
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thanking everyone for their support just yesterday. >> julia, lindsey reiser here. will this change andrew yang's message now that his wife is going to join him at more events? >> yeah. so for andrew yang, he has addressed this on the trail in iowa yesterday. even more broadly than the individual accountability in this specific case, he's now speaking to what he views as a cultural and societal problem. evelyn said herself that this -- she wishes this were an isolated incident but sadly it is business as usual in today's environment and climate. so yang took this head on in his remarks yesterday. take a listen. >> our country is deeply misogynist and i feel like i could get away with saying that because i'm a man and so i say it and i've known that for years and years now. i think if a woman said that it
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might be somehow seema cues is a tori or inflammatory but for me it's just a statement of fact. >> so even more so than this individual case, which according to evelyn yang's attorney who told nbc news that 15 additional women came forward with their own stories after her initial interview, he's looking to address this more culturally and more broadly on the trail. >> julia, it's kendis here in new york. let's focus more now on the campaign. you're right there on the ground. you write that andrew yang could pull critical support from bernie sanders there in new hampshire. why? >> so new hampshire primary is different from the iowa caucuses in that in the iowa caucuses candidates must reach a level of at least 15% support in most precincts.
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so if they do not reach that threshold, their supporters have to realign and choose a second option. in new hampshire that's not the case. it is one shot to show your preference. so bernie sanders and andrew yang have a lot of overlap in their following, especially when it comes to young male voters. yang has done a lot to expand that appeal and expand that base, but in a state where, according to the real clear politics polling average, it's a tight race at the top, 1 or 2 percentage points between sanders and biden at the moment with buttigieg and warren on the heels, that 1 or 2% could really make all the difference. with andrew yang pulling 3, 4, 5% and possibly more as we get closer to voting day, then that percentage, if it's pulled away from sanders, could really make all the difference in who comes out on top. >> all right. so a lot of people are courting the same voters. 23 days until the primary there
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remarkable new reporting on the text messages given to house investigators by lev parnas. he's now under indictment for campaign finance violations. he was arrested with a one-way ticket out of the country. >> nbc's josh lederman is reporting that the person who sent text messages, supposed surveillance to marie yovonovitch now says it was all a joke, just kidding. josh lederman is joining us now. josh, can you hear us? >> yeah, i'm with you. >> good morning, josh. what do you know about this european supporter of president trump who sent these messages? >> yeah, kendis, this story keeps getting weirder and weirder. first in that first batch of text messages the house released earlier in the week we found out about this guy, robert hyde. this republican congressional candidate in connecticut who set up surveillance operation which
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he claimed to watch yovonovitch to which he was passing on information to lev parnas. then late in the week robert hyde started pointing the gin r beginnifinger at someone else. he copied and pasted someone else he identified in a series of rambling twitter posts as anthony decalaway. we didn't know who this was or if he existed. then a second group of documents were released by the house late in the week that seemed to corroborate the story that robert was the middleman. he was getting information or purported information about where yovonovitch was from someone with a belgian phone number and had been basically copying and pasting that to lev parnas. we were able to reach anthony decaloway who confirmed that he had been part of this but said
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it was all a joke, that it was just him joking around and being ridiculous with robert hyde. he doesn't have any connections to ukraine and did not actually have ambassador yovonovitch under surveillance. it's shed light, kendis, on this whole circle of very vehement trump supporters who were able to ingratiate themselves into the trump world by spending a lot of time at the trump hotel, mar-a-lago, making donations, taking selfies like the ones we're looking at with members of trump's orbit and able to create the perception that they had some type of access to the president and some ways to help him as there was this push hand the scenes on ukraine. >> josh, let's go deeper into what you mentioned. here's what parnas said about robert hyde who also, as you mentioned, sent text messages about surveying yovonovitch. >> i don't believe it's true. i think he was either drunk or
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he's trying to make himself bigger than he was so i didn't take it seriously. >> this went on for seven days. he couldn't have been drunk the whole time? >> no, he's drunk all the time. >> you didn't believe he actually had the ambassador under surveillance? >> no, absolutely not. >> you didn't worry that she was actually in physical danger? >> no. never. >> because you didn't believe mr. hyde? >> definitely didn't believe mr. hyde. >> so is this a pattern or a strategy now of waiving away possible surveillance as just one big prank? >> yeah, it's really hard to tell, and we know that there is more digging to do here. the state department has said they're investigating, as has ukraine's government which has opened a criminal investigation. and it does look if you look at the text messages from parnas, that he was brushing him off or he'd say something like that, dismissive. the fact of the matter is if you were getting text messages from
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some -- someone claim to go have a physical electronic and telephonic surveillance going on on an ambassador in the former soviet union, that might raise alarm bells. you might not want to brush it off os a joke that doesn't need to be taken seriously. >> report it to someone. >> if they were kidding, they need better joke writers. >> josh lederman, thank you. >> doesn't look like he reported it to anyone and didn't make sure it wasn't a threat to the ambassad ambassador. moving to london where we're getting our first look at the queen since she announced the details of harry and meghan splitting. she arrived at church. prince andrew is also reportedly in attendance. >> and also we could go back to that video there of the queen because it's rare to see the queen smiling and even as of
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recently and to see her there smiling after all that she has gone through in the last week or so -- >> what are you talking about? she's smiling here? >> a lot of royal watchers have been making note of that. it's good to see after what she said was already a rough 2019 and 2020 so far. >> yeah. >> this is a rest, by the way, as the country is reacting. the british tabloids saying freedom at price saying the queen orders a hard mexit. joining us now is julia mantagou who is a royal commentator with the bbc. you were surprised at this arrangement with calls for harry and meghan to give up their state duties and funding. was this expected? >> i think it probably wasn't expected especially if we look at the instagram posts that both harry and meghan put out and originally they said we want to divide our duties, our royal duties and having financial
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independence. clearly that didn't go down very well with buckingham palace and the queen. this statement comes out saying, no, they're on their own. financial freedom at a price. no longer can they use hrh and they won't be performing anymore royal duties. so i think it was quite a shock for the rest of us because for the past week we were thinking from the instagram post and then hearing that they've been discussing this for the last few months, that they had actually come to some type of agreement that they'll be able to have their cake and eat it too. it looks like that's not the case and they will then go on their own and really it is -- it's a mexit. they are breaking away from this royal family. >> what do you think of their finances, julie? that's a big question for everyone. they have to pay back the more than $3 million of taxpayer money that was used to renovate their home. will making money be a challenge for them in the future? what are they looking at here? >> yeah. it's -- when they broke the news on their instagram, again, a lot of the british press over here
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were asking the questions, but we've just paid for 2.4 million pounds of renovations and they know that was huge here in the public eye. so as far as money goes, let's remember, harry has inherited quite a bit from his mother. princess diana. then at the same time there is the dutch of cornwall which is, you know, prince charles in a sense -- it's almost a trust fund. so i don't think there's going to be -- we will never find out. i don't think there's going to be any reason for us to think that they're not going to be able to survive on their own. there are funds for them through the duchess of cornwall, through what he's inherited but they want their independence. they want to make their own money as well and to do the things -- their charitable -- all the charities that they are involved in, they want to be able to do that as well. they do want to be away from the
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british press over here. >> the queen today smiling at sunday's service. what's your take on how she's handled all of this? do you think this is the best deal for the royal family and meghan and harry? >> yeah. overall it is the best deal and of course to see the queen smiling is wonderful, but i think she loves going to church. any time she's going to go to church we will see her smiling. i don't think it was -- i think a lot of people are reading into that. she loves going to church and it's one of had he ever favorite things to do. it is lovely to see the queen smiling. i think it's really -- there was obviously some negotiation going on because for them to come out with an announcement on a saturday night means that negotiations must have been going on yesterday as well. and of course they wanted to get this out before it was leaked to the press, thus on a saturday night. but i think it is definitely the best for the royal family. i think for them trying to negotiate a deal where harry and megan kind of get the best of both worlds probably wasn't in
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the best interest for the royal family because they can't control it then. then at the end of the day maybe this is the best thing for meghan and harry to go on and be on their own. >> thank you very much. we just heard from meghan markle's father. he told u.k.'s channel 5, quote, it's disappointing because she actually got every girl's dream. looks like she's tossing it away for money. i knew it would only be a matter of time before her father weighed in. >> i'm sure she cares. >> have they spoken since her letter to him have been made public. >> harry inherited $60 million when her mom died. meagan made $400 million a year from the tv she was on in cable just for context what they're going back to. >> they are still using by trademarking their royal highness highnesses, they are still using -- >> sussexs. a new alert about the rising temperatures of the ocean and the impact this could have on lives across the world.
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a new study about climate change and the ocean's rising temperatures. >> it is the subject of a new article in "the new york times." joining us now the author of that article, kendra lewis. talk to us about the significance of the finding. >> good morning. thank you. there have been two studies that came out. one that found that 2019 was the second hottest year on record and another one that found 2019
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was the hottest year on record for the world's oesh shabs. both of the studies cap off the hottest year on record -- the hottest decade on record. what that's telling us is that climate change is happening. the predictions are reasonably accurate. it's hot and it's getting hotter. >> so you write that measuring the temperatures of the oceans is a challenge for scientists. why is that? >> right. the ocean is very large. there's a lot going on around the world and the temperature record for the ocean isn't as robust for the surface. there are temperatures that go back for 100 years. the ocean record is much more limited. the global ocean temperature record is only 15 years old. so there's a lot of extrapolation for having to do earlier than 2003 when this network of 3,000 floats were deployed around the planet. >> kendra, lindsey here. we know rising temperatures hurt
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marine life and bleaching of coral reefs. >> the ocean is a huge part of our weather system. it drives sort of -- yeah, it's a huge part of part of our weatr system so when you get the hot spots of ocean heating, you get things like increased hurricanes and hurricane harvey, hurricane irene in puerto rico and hurricane dorian this past year in the bahamas are all driven by hotter water temperatures. from the droughts in australia to the flooding that we're see in indonesia which have killed more than 60 people and left hundreds of thousands of people homeless. >> and the weather patterns might be the answer to this, but what is the biggest concern for researchers when it comes to ocean warming? >> yeah, the biggest concern is we don't know how much heat the ocean can take. so far the ocean absorbed 93% of the heat we released because of greenhouse gas emissions and
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we're worried that at some point the ocean is going to start giving that heat back. that's what happened in 2016, which was the hottest temperature year on record. >> how much heat marine life can take. thanks, kendra. >> thank you. a story that left some workers at amtrak red faced. it's the good, the bad and the ugly, next.xt here's another cleaning tip from mr. clean. cleaning tough bathroom and kitchen messes with sprays and wipes can be a struggle. there's an easier way. try mr. clean magic eraser. just wet, squeeze and erase tough messes
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about this morning. a sea otter population is thriving. 18 new otter pups have been spotted. a sencentury ago 30 otters in existence. they credit more food availability and mating for the resurgence. >> they're very amusing and endearing creature. they're just tons of fun to watch. it's an unbelievable opportunity to be able to see a species recover the way the sea otters have and to see them in such abundance. >> more than 3,000 now living in the central california coast. now the graphic. there it is. >> it is that time of the week. the moment when we wrap up the show and move from the whip lash of the news cycle. they like that and talk about the best and worst stories we missed this week. joining us as you can see right there john devor, the editor and
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chief of "humongous." >> john, what is your ugly? >> i'm still recovering from the otter story. let me get into the ugly mode. it's that story in chicago where a pair of people who both used power wheelchairs thought they were buying a $16 ticket from chicago to bloomington, illinois, but were told by amtrak officials that they were, in fact, $25,000 tickets. >> what? >> it's becoming a huge controversy. i love amtrak, i love taking the train. i'm kind of surprised they're being so tone deaf but most definitely this is in violation of the americans with disability act. >> why, did they give an explanati explanation? >> they're fumbling this. if there has been a news station -- >> clean up in aisle -- >> this is the ugly right here. >> i'm upset at amtrak, too. >> let's get to your bad. >> the bad news, of course, i
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don't know who this is bad for, but the bad news -- >> keyboard. >> move on. go, go, go. >> space force getting dumped on twitter. donald trump's big idea for american storm troopers. they released an image of them in uniform and it's getting roasted on twitter because, of course, there are no trees in space. >> oh, yeah. >> uniforms. they say they're recycling the uniforms. >> trying to save some money. but one great way to save money is no space force. >> smarty. >> we have all day to argue about that. >> you have the news we have all been waiting for. what is your good pick? >> national treasure 3. disney has announced a third "national treasure" movie. nick cage's classic movie on a
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historian that goes on adventures that are american themed. he is a national treasure. he stars in a movie called "national treasure." >> when i saw this link, i wasn't sure what category it would go under. >> i love nick cage. >> we would like to say that there is another show coming up, but, i don't know, she may have ruined everything, garret. >> the good, the bad and the ugly and a lot of water. >> editor and chief, thank you. we also want to remind you, if you missed it, we'll review all of rachel maddow's lev parnas interview. first deval patrick joins our colleague.
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we spent that commercial break blow drying everything in the studio and still wet thanks to this one. we are all out of town for this sunday morning. i'm kendis gibson, lindsay, thank you for joining us. we'll see you next sunday at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. i'm garrett haake at nbc world headquarters in new york. overwhelming evidence. house managers argue they have a compelling case for the removal of president trump calling his behavior the framer's worst nightmare. the white house response b