>> thank you for spending your day with us. we begin to look forward to a week the country has seen only two times before. in 45 hours, the senate starts with opening arguments at 1:00 p.m. tuesday. before that the legal team is working hard. they have until noon tomorrow to deliver their trial briefs. if the house has a rebuttal, they must do so by noon tuesday. impeachment attorneys submitted a 111-page overview of their legal arguments. the brief says president trump threatened u.s. national security and jeopardized the integrity of our free and fair elections. separate of the trial briefs white house lawyers issued a six-page response saturday to the senate summons to the trial. it was critical of the process, calling it a, quote, brazen and unlawful attempt to overturn the

result of the 2016 election. congressman adam schiff one of the house impeachment managers responded this morning. >> it is surprising in that it doesn't offer much knew beyond the failed arguments we heard in the house. the facts aren't seriously contested. the president withheld hundreds of millions of dollars of military aid to an ally at war with russia. in order to coerce ukraine this to helping him cheat in the next election. >> our panel, josh lederman, josh wine -- scott wong. josh lederman let's start with you. we have developments coming out of the national security council. >> that's right. this is just break. we have been told that the top official at the white house for russia and europe, an fish by the name of andrew peek has been

put on leave indefinitely amid a security-related investigation. now, officials do not specify exactly what the nature of that investigation is. but this is a really critical office in the white house responsible for pushing back on russian aggression, farm latie i -- formulating u.s. policy in russia. it is the same department headed by two assets in the impeachment hearing hearings. >> that's the latest just in to it. josh lederman with the breaking news. let's go to scott wong. relate to what josh was just reporting as well as what we have got something happening in 45 hours as i mentioned. there has been a lot of written material, the trial briefs and response coming from the white house. we expect more stuff tomorrow. reflect on all of that, scott. >> i think what we are seeing is

that democrats feel like they have been vindicated. fa nancy pelosi feels vindicated. you have seen in the 111-page legal brief from house managers led by adam schiff councilmember documents provided by positive parnas showing ties between rudy giuliani and donald trump during this scheme relating to the ukraine. you also saw the democrats in their brief mentioned the gao report which said that the president and the white house had violated the law by withholding the $400 million in aid to the ukrainian government so that goes back to this earlier argument by democrats and nancy pelosi that withholding these articles of impeachment for the last several

weeks was a winning strategy because it gave them time. it because nancy pelosi time to anow some of these new developments to trickle out --' lou some of these new developments trickle out. now we are seeing how the house democrats used some of the legal arguments in their documents as they prepare to head into this what is expected to be several weeks-long trial in the senate. >> jill when we got these documents yesterday we were feverishly at this hour trying to go through them. what we could do is print them up and go through them as we were on air. by weight, that which came from the house managers from the democrats, it was about 111 pages heavy. the one from the bill clinton impeachment process from the republicans, oh, it is about a third less. as you have gone through this, what's the difference? give us context in terms what have house democrats have put forward in their trial brief. >> let me start by saying to everyone listening that reading this is not reading 111 pages.

it does total that. >> why. >> but it is a page turner. once you start, i promise, you won't want to skim it. you are going to read every word. and it will be a fast read. it was fascinating. i could not put it down. it is very well put together. the democrats have laid out the facts and the law in a very compelling way. and they say that when the facts are on your side, argue the facts. when the law is on your side, argue the law. the democrats have both on their side, so they have argued both. the reason there is only a seven-page reply so far is because they have nothing to say. there is no defense. they simply say, we deny it all. but they don't put forward any facts or any law that supports their point of view. to the exthen they are rebutting the legal position, they are saying there is no crime, well, there is, there is a campaign finance violation, there is a

gao impoundment act violation. so there are crimes there. but you don't need one. that's not a necessary element for impeachment. and for them to say that abuse of power is not correct, owl four constitutional experts who testified before the house said that abuse of power is an impeachable offense, turly, who was the republican witness, said we don't think there is enough evidence of that, not that it isn't an impeachable offense but just that it hasn't been proved. that was before lev parnas. that was before the gao. now you have proof of criminal violations. you have proof of abuse of power. it is very clear. and everyone should be reading the entire document. >> so, josh, you have been watching what we've heard coming out from the republicans. allan dershowitz, who is part of the legal team -- you can decide how to define that -- he has come out and give hints throughout the last 48 hours

saying at least at this point the two articles, the way they stand right now, do not hold water for many of the reasons that jill is rebutting, too. the question is, how will republicans react going forward to all of the details that jill just brought up. >> it is a really interesting argument that alan dershowitz has been making, particularly this morning saying that even if you accept that 100% of what democrats have alleged that president donald trump did is accurate, that it is still not impeachable based on his interpretation of the constitution. i think that's going to put republicans in a difficult position because you are going to have democrats saying, is that really the standard that we want to set for our presidents now and in the future, that you could invite foreign interference in a u.s. election, and as long as it's not codified in an impeachment article that

cites a specific statutory violation that the president is free and clear and won't be impea impeached? that may be a difficult position for the democrats to defend. >> it has been reported that the president is looking at good tv -- is he looking at good tv? is he looking al just his base? >> you could certainly make that argument. you know, a lot of those -- a lot of these members of trump's white house legal team that will be arguing their case in the senate have decades of tv experience and have served in big cases in the past. obviously, kenneth starr in the clinton impeachment trial itself. and so you could make that argument. you know, and one thing we are hearing is that this means essentially is that president trump has been arguing for some of the house members, some of the chief defenders in the house, like jim jordan and matt gates who also have good tv

experience to be part of this team. it doesn't look like there is going to be any room for some of those house guys on the president's team despite the president's best argument for their case. >> jill, 15 seconds. >> i think that the team that the democrats have put together is a serious team of people able to present a case, to make a narrative that americans will understand. the arguments being put forth by the republicans so far, including the dershowitz argument, which is the most, i've heard, are simply without foundation. the constitution and the federalist papers make it very clear that abuse of power is exactly what the constitution meant to protect against. it was to remove a president before he had to be reelected. >> rules of the game. still not passed yet. we wait for that. we will have to go to folks like scott and josh on that. looking forward to the reporting when it does come back. thank you. have a good sunday. accusations and fighting on

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welcome back. it is the bewitching hour, with 15 days from the iowa caucus, candidates are doing what they have not done before, disagreeing in public, to a noteworthy degree. expected as well. joe biden demanding an apology from senator bernie sanders

claiming they are circulating a doctored video showing biden considering cuts to social security. political reports it is not proven the sanders camp doctored the video. add to that the debate on whether a woman can be elected president. then to the mad scramble. 45 hours left before senators have to be sitting in the senate chambers tuesday. senators and bennett are in new hampshire. warren and amy klobuchar are in iowa. amy brewster is in new hampshire following sanders. mike, according to what we are hearing, joe biden saying no, what's up with this doctored video? why do that? i want an apology. >> we talked a little bit about this yesterday of course, this debate over biden's record on social security is one that the sanders campaign has been really trying to kick off for weeks now. the candidate himself hasn't been doing it but a number of

sanders's campaign aides have been calling attention to a number of videos in fact in which biden has at various points expressed support for various social security reform proposaled. you saw yesterday biden pick out one which he claims was video. there are a number of others. i tried to ask the former vice president what about other instances where you appeared to express some support for potential changes to social and other entitlement programs? let's listen to how he responded. >> you singled out one video that the sanders campaign put out and called it distorted. but there are other videos showing you speaking in the past about some proposals you did support, chuck grassley. >> we will have plenty of time to discuss social security. >> is he still misrepresenting your comments? you see there, as biden said, we will have plenty of time to discuss it but he's not ready to

do it just yet. the campaign saying if sanders wants to have a conversation about social security they are more than happy to have it. they also say sanders in his own words has praised biden in the past for always standing up for working families. that's why the biden campaign thinks these sanders attacks aren't going to land. >> shack, what are you hearing? you have done a lot of reporting with the sanders campaign. what's response so far? >> that's right. mike is completely right. mike memberly is exactly right when he says that the sanders campaign has been gearing up for this. they have been telegraphing this attack that was to come. senator sanders, we got to ask him about this. he hasn't mentioned it on the trial in terms of events. when he is having town halls and

rallies he is not mentioning it on stage. but it is something his advisors continue to bring up, including the twitter video that one of his advisers retweeted that got attention of senator biden. let's listen to senator sanders a few minutes ago. >> there has been a lot of media attention regarding joe biden and myself. let me say this. joe biden is a friend of mine. what i do believe, and i think the american people understand, is that if you run for office, you defend your record. people have honest differences of opinion. that's called politics in a democracy. nothing to be embarrassed about it. and joe's views and joe's record is very different than mine. on the issue of social security, time and time again joe biden has been clear in supporting cuts to social security. >> i will tell you, this is something they want to have a conversation they want to have for many reasons.

number one, remember that spat last weekend between matter in sanders and elizabeth warren? it allows them to move on that and focus their attention on their top rival, jp joe biden. also it helps them attack one of their weak spots, one of the spots that senator sanders is open about needing to improve upon, getting the support of older voters. his coalition is largely made up of younger voters. talking about social security is something they think will help connect with them. >> let's get over to vaughn hillyard. let's complete the triangle. the warren/sanders dust up, where does that stand. >> elizabeth warren is about to take the stage behind me at a forum with the likes of the brady campaign, the naacp and citizened united. essentially, they have 36 left

on the campaign trial before the impeach trial on capitol hill. we happened to catch up elizabeth warren a little bit ago at her last stop. the question was posed to her about joe biden's past positions about potential reductions in social security benefits. she took no idea in becoming involved in the back and forth between senator sanders and former vice president biden except so say she will continue to talk about the issues. that's exactly the sentiment you heard from her when asked about the squabel between her and senator sanders accusing each other of lying on national television. and what elizabeth warren has put out the last couple of days is the focus she doesn't want to talk about the squabbles back and forth. then i asked her the question, to what extent is she concerned about the impact of the intraparty debates have. this is what she told me. are you concern about the back and forth between the campaigns and the impact it has?

>> i think we all ought to be out here talking about why we are running for president. that's what i am doing today in des moines. reaching out to voters, telling them who i am, why i am in this fight and asking them to join me in a grassroots movement. >> elizabeth warren is going to be here in des moines this afternoon. south carolina tomorrow morning before she comes back to des moines and takes her plane back to washington, d.c. for the start of the senate impeachment trial on tuesday. the reality is that senator warren, bernie sanders, michael bennet, and amy klobuchar are going to be sidetracked during the impeachment trial leaving the campaign trial to joe biden and pete buttegeig with just two weeks left. >> mad scramble going on. thank you so much. our nbc road warriors. breaking news from honolulu

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i don't know if you caught it. a lot of revelations from lev parnas over the past several days. and they have shed new light on the president trump's efforts to dig up dirt on the bidens in ukraine. an overview, the former rudy giuliani associate who has been indicted on federal charges detailed to msnbc's rachel maddow and others on how trump relied on multiple channel, both official and unofficial, to push his scheme. listen. >> president trump knew exactly what was going on. he was aware of all of my movements. he -- i wouldn't do anything without the consend of rudy giuliani or the president. i am going to use a famous quote by mr. soterland. everybody was this the loop. >> everyone. he was saying there was mike pence who according to parnas canceled his trip to the ukrainian president's inauguration in may of 2019 because ukraine had not announced investigation into the bidens. parnas said that pence, quote couldn't have not known about the scheme.

and when asked about the relationship, pence told reporters, quote, i don't know the guy. parnas likewise also implicated attorney bill barr saying barr was absolutely in contact with rudy giuliani about his efforts in ukraine a. justice department spokesperson called parnas's account, quote, 100% false. then there is former energy secretary rick perry, who attended zelensky's inauguration in the place of vice president pence. after the inauguration perry tried unsuccessfully to get the ukrainian president to announce investigations into biden and burisma. and parnas points out president trump through rudy giuliani relied heavy will he on a bevy of unofficial actors the pressure the ukrainians. there was, lev parnas himself, often working closely with fruman. giuliani relied on the two as

fixers to set up meetings with ukrainian officials. toensing and digenova also entered the scene. according the parnas, toensing and digenova would help ukraine oligarch and putin ally firtash fate extradition charges to the united states to face bribery charges. the newest character to the story is robert hyde, a trump donor and former congressional candidate. text messages between parnas and hyde showed the latter was secretly tracking the movements of former ukrainian ambassador marie yovanovich. hyde tells msnbc news the texts from him were quote just playing. and then there is anthony decal way telling nbc this weekend he was not really tracking the

ambassador saying it was all just ridiculous wanter. president trump's legal team will be headed by two high-profile tv friendly attorneys both with somewhat checkered pasts when you see them on tuesday. kenneth starr let the geechlt investigation into bill clinton in 1998. he was also ousted as president of baylor university in 2016 after being accused of ignoring sexual assault issues on campus. one of starr's best known clients was billionaire pedophile jeffrey epstein, the president's already made for tv attorney allan dershowitz was also on epstein's defense team and was on o.j. simpson's 1995 murder trial. during an interview this morning he gave a preview of the defense. >> even if everything as alleged by the house managers is proven or taken as true, they would not rise to the level of an impeachable offense. >> let's turn to our panel, carol lamb, michelle goldberg.

carol, let's talk about the legal team. i talked about it at the top of the show. tv focused if that is indeed what some are saying is true, how does that help the president got done what he wants to get done? >> i don't think that the selection of ken starr and allen dershowitz to join the defense team should be much of a surprise to anybody. it is very consistent with what the president thinks is appealing to his base. and it's consistent with the way the president has led most of his life. marquee names, a lot of name recognition. you know, sort of glitter. and the fact that alan dershowitz has joined the team and says i am not a trump supporter, i didn't vote for trump, i don't intend to vote for trump again. i am here to talk about the constitution and what i think the limits of the constitution are. that nuance is going to be lost

on most of the nation. what people are going to hear is oh, these two very prominent lawyers have joined the president's team. i think that's what the president is looking for. >> nuance, michele. is it nuance that the president -- because he can't be speaking -- he's not going to be speaking, so we think n the senate trial. is he really focused on the three or four gop senators saying hey remember i have a direct connect to your voters potentially. >> i don't know. it seems to me he is putting the three or four, gardener, collins -- he's putting them in a pretty bad position because it seems he is running a defense that's base first. this is a president elected with a minority of the population, that he only needs to court a minority of the population to be reelected. he is looking to be acquitted by senators representing the minority of the population. you have alan dershowitz making this argument that yes, even if he did it -- not even if he did it, that abuse of power is not

impeachable. meanwhile you have kenneth starr who tried to impeach bill clinton. one of the things blil was supposed to be impeached for was withholding documents from congress. you have on the one hand impeachment undermines the will of the voters. they are not trying to convince the country or people who are undecided. they are trying to hold on to their base. >> what happens, carol f the president tweets as he did during the house intel hearings, if he does it during the senate trial? >> that's an interesting question. the senators aren't allowed to have their computers or their phones in the chamber with them. that's not the say once they leave the chamber after-hours that they are prohibited from talking to their staffs or reading things. i mean, four of them are running for president. i mean they have to be able to carry on with their lives. this isn't like a regular criminal trial where the jurors are told don't look at anything or read anything about this

case. the senators already know a lot about this case. and for the president to tweet afterwards, frankly, i don't think it is going to -- it is going to have any actual impact on the results of the impeachment trial. it is just going to be more of what donald trump does. >> i hate to quote a movie here, but the president has to let it go here doesn't he? he has to let mitch mcconnell do what he wants to do? >> i don't know that that's true. i think mitch mcconnell would like to try to get -- in the past has said he wants to have no witnesses. donald trump meanwhile, in some ways in this perverse way has been almost allied with nancy pelosi because he thinks he is going to turn it into a circus by getting hunter biden getting all sorts of people to substantiate the conspiracy theory against joe biden which was the reason behind all of the impeachable conduct.

>> carol lam and michelle goldberg thank you for your expertise. a state of emergency as gun rights activists, white nationalists and militia groups prepare the rally in virginia. we will take you live to richmond. plus fact checking president trump on his claims that he wasn't preexisting conditions protected when it comes to your health care. tonight, ari melber previews the impeachment trial of trump. he will break down what you need to know for the week ahead. watch trump on trial at 9:00 p.m. eastern on msnbc. tern on m. to help you maintain balance and help keep you active and well-rested. because hey, tomorrow's coming up fast. nature's bounty. because you're better off healthy. nature's bounty. the better question would be where do i not listen to it. while i'm eating my breakfast... on the edges of cliffs... on a ski lift... everywhere. for a limited time, go to audible.com to save $50 on your first year of membership.

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welcome back a. state of emergency takes effect tonight in virginia ahead of a gun rally tomorrow with law enforcement officials pointing to what they say are credible threats of violence and plans by out of state militia groups to attends. our correspondent cal perry is in richmond. cal, as we know so well here, there are those who do their rally and what they want to do. then you have outside groups that sometimes attend and can for a lack of a better word hijack what is happening. where are we in this conversation here? >> i think that is the key point that you are making. look, we are going to have people who are intense these new restrictions in virginia taking place. these are folks who are going to be protesting their right to bear arms. then you are going to have out of state possibly militias who are going to show up. then you have on the most extreme a concern amongst law

enforcement officials you could have problems with both of these groups. the base found law enforcement officials plans to attack that rally tomorrow, to do exactly what you are saying, hijack a progun protest. it frank lee happened two years ago in charlottesville virginia where we saw the violence and the tragic death of heather hire. security is being set up around the capital. they are banning weapons tomorrow, that is what is starting to bring people out here. tomorrow, it is that exact concern that you are laying out of who exactly will show up here. >> cal, part of these gatherings, the signs. those who have arrived early, you are there early to cover the story. what signs, what conversations have you noticed? >> what we are seeing here are folks that are not from the area, who are scouting the area. looks like leaders from various groups. that is something that is unnerving. you are also seeing a lot of

people walking around with their weapons out. this is an open carry state. what we are talking about are meese restrictions. the other thing worth mentioning because we cannot report the story in a vacuum tomorrow is this is the day when the country normally celebrates martin luther king. it is not happen stance that this protest happens tomorrow. it is tomorrow on martin luther king day for a reason. it has people around the state and around the country concerned over who exactly will show up tomorrow. >> cal perry there early on the ground there from richmond virginia for us with that story. president trump is claiming he is a champion of protecting health care coverage for people with preexisting medical conditions. however, his record tells a different story. in a tweet attacking presidential candidate michael blook bloomberg president trump says he was the person who saved preexisting conditions in your health care. and quote, i will always protect your preexisting conditions, the democrats will not. the current preexisting conditions were enacted under

the affordable care act act which president obama signed in 2010. president trump's justice department is backing a lawsuit by republican state officials to throw out the fire aca, including those protections. with me now to look at what are the facts behind this, nbc news's policy editor benji sar land. benji, you have been looking into the background of this story and these claims. what did you find? >> well, there is a real misrepresentation going on here from the president. now, the democratic position here is very simple. it is the protections we have today, that insurers are not allowed to deny people claims because of a preexisting seasons or change a policy in response. the president wants the wave some of those protections or make changes that undermine them. most importantly he is backing the lawsuit that would specifically overturn those protections.

when this tends to. could up on the news, tends to just respond that of course i support these protections. but there is no evidence whatsoever that there is any consensus republican position that the white house or senate and house republican support that would perfectly reproduce the current protections we have now. there is no question here that this is a misleading statement. when we look at the aca, what might happen next around that push for health care. what is next? >> right now it is a legal limbo because of the lawsuit. now in the past there have been some changes to the affordable care act through the supreme court. but in general they batted away the challenges that would kind of throw the law out root and branch. however the lawsuit making its way through the courts right now could do that. already a circuit court ruled and sent it down to a lower court for review. but agreed with the basic idea that the law might have to change in response to this white house-backed lawsuit.

now we might not have a result on that until perhaps later this year offer after the election but it is definitely in play right now that the law could change. >> means a lot to a lot of americans. good to have you on a sunday. benji sar land, thank you so much. our policy editor here on nbc news. michael bloomberg talking race and privilege on the campaign trail. how that might impact his standing with minority voters. tonight, rachel mado sits down with giuliani associate -- actually, it is a review. we are going the replay this two-part interview. that is going to happen tonight at 10:00 and 11 p.m. eastern. rachel maddow with lev parnas right here on msnbc. right here on msnbc. we made usaa insurance for members like martin.

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the more we look the more we find the sparks that make america shine. ♪ welcome back. on the afternoon before martin luther king jr. day, michael bloomberg is trying to appeal to black voters in tulsa, oklahoma. while serving as new york city mayor, bloomberg's stop and frisk policy disproportionately affected african-americans in the city, a legacy that is now an obstacle to his campaign for president that context makes bloomberg's address today seem all the more calculated to some

as the sign of his appearance has a racial and historic clool significance. according to the oklahoma historical society, it is believed to be the singest worst incident of racial violence in american history. an 18-hour event that began when white members of the community accused a black man of attacking a white woman in an elevator. white tulsans then attacked black members of the community, seth fires to their homes and businesses. more than 1,000 homes and businesses were said to have been destroyed while credible estimates of deaths ranged from 50 to 300. well, during his visit to the historic site, bloomberg attempted to connect with black voters by discussing how he has benefitted from white privilege. >> challenge of african-american wealth creation today is inextricably linked to the racial inequalities of the past. and i am determined to make

breaking a link a centerpiece of my candidacy. i say my story would only have been possible in america. i think that's true. i also know my story would have turned out very differently if i had been black and that more black americans of my generation would have ended up with far more wealth had they been white. >> for more on bloomberg's pitch i am joined by a democratic -- also a former aide for the former house. also mustafa tumese, democratic strategist. >> bloomberg does have a gap here. the message that you heard, is that the message that he needs to give? >> i think it is a good thing he went to tulsa and he is

highlighting something that you just did in your intro that people don't know about. one of the many examples and one of the worst examples of hundreds of years of oppression and slavery and segregation and jim crow and public policy that denied opportunity the black americans and many others. but he spent the first 15 or 20 years of his speech talking about the history of oppression and rightly saying that his life was very different. but then turning to a bramatic approach to addressing a systemic issue. i think voters are going to have to ask, is it sincere? does his past practice in new york and other places qualify him to do that. i think it is a good thing, the things he propose ready good. i think the core question is can you fix a systemic problem with a programmatic approach. >> as you look at the candidates

speak, the memory of the african-american electorate is killing sanity. as diverse as it is. >> look, i mean i think impressed me about mayor bloomberg's approach to this was he didn't just lay out a bunch of platitudes. he laid out a concrete plan. he talked about having one million more african-american homeowners. he talked about 100,000 african-american businesses in the next ten years. he talked about putting $70 billion in neighborhoods that have been devastated across america. so this tangible list of his proposals, his track record as mayor of new york and as a business man, as a philanthropist, show he can do things at big scale. that's really important, i think as viewers and voters think about this, he's got a track record of doing big things. >> so then if there is some room

in the space right now, will, and when you look at the support from for instance 2020 democratic primary voters black voters specifically, joe biden has been said, and you can look at the numbers here, the latest ip sis "washington post" poll gives him 43% and he runs away with it basically here. but it's not a foregone conclusion, is it, will? >> no. i think black voters are paying attention. but obviously you saw that poll had him at 1%. i saw another poll had bloomberg at 4%. he's having a similar problem that buttigieg has had. mayor of a city, has had a shaky history on issues dealing with black americans, particularly criminal justice reform in the case of -- >> but does biden have the african-american vote? >> i think he has a track record. he was vice president. i worked with him in the white house. i think there is still some

room. people will look to what happens in iowa and new hampshire and see if there's an opening. as you dig deeper into bloomberg's record, i think people are going to be wondering is this for real or a good calculated speech with some great programs but is it really what he believes? i think that's the question. >> left and right they will agree her, mustafa. if you want to become the democratic nominee, you must have the support of the african-american electorate. if you are to address that, does it become too little too late? example, for instance, and i'm not giving an answer here, we have seen the reporting on two of the candidates, pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar, changing their plans so that they can address the african-american community on a very important day, and that's mlk day tomorrow. if you were to be critical, you would say is it too little too late? >> look, i mean, i think that

you do have to look at people's records. and bloomberg's, it's not the first time he appeared here, he was here a year ago, gave a million dollars so that people would remember this event opini. he's got a record. how do you get it out, get it out quick enough. he's got the resources to do that. he is not playing in those stat states. >> what's your vote on buttigieg and klobuchar on that? >> it's surprising that a presidential campaign didn't plan for mlk day in weeks and months in advance. they have to change in the last minutes to try to accommodate it. you do wonder what people are thinking. and i don't think voters are going to forget that. both those candidates have had issues in the past courting african-american voters. they're trying to do that.

this is not going to bode well. >> one of the things that's been the opinion at least from some pun dids here, will, is this part of the electorate is very practcle and strategic. they are looking at who can beat the republican nominee expected, and that would be donald trump. >> and i think that's why this is strategically and substantively good plan. credibility aside, if joe biden for example loses the first couple of primaries in new hampshire and iowa and nevada, when he gets to south carolina, black voters, because of the history part and the history of this country, of the oppression, are looking for someone who can improve their lives, and who has the best shot? if you remember, barack obama polled relatively low until in iowa until he won. if joe biden is weakened, i

think you could have someone who has an enormous amount of money and good pr to fill that gop. >> let's talk about millions here, mustafa. as we look at the south carolina poll from fox news, in number two, it's steyer. is he that person that could pull in potentially a large amount of this particular part of the electorate? >> yeah. look, it's -- money plays an important role in politics. that's why everybody is fund-raising, the advantage is they're not out there fund-raising. they're planning ahead, they can hire staff. they don't have to go raise money and then do that. they can actually spend some thinking time on how to implement things. and steyer's numbers reflect that television advertising has an impact on polling. but 9 is not enough. we've seen lots of people with

money fail at every level. it's also the message. today bloomberg will put his message out. let's see if it sticks. >> mustafa, joewanda, thank you. i appreciate your time. that will do it for me. for now i turn it over to referendum al sharpton and "politicsnation." eeeeeww! dead skin cells! gross! so now, i grab my swiffer sweeper and heavy-duty dusters. duster extends to three feet to get all that gross stuff gotcha! and for that nasty dust on my floors, my sweeper's on it. the textured cloths grab and hold dirt and hair no matter where dust bunnies hide. no more heebie jeebies. phew. glad i stopped cleaning and started swiffering.

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