good evening, and welcome to "politicsnation," live from atlanta. tonight's lead, the calm before the storm. house impeachment managers have been grinding on capitol hill all weekend, quietly preparing for tuesday's senate trial, just the third one in our nation's history. those seven lawmakers huddled in speaker nancy pelosi's office today, crafting what they see as the most effective prosecution of donald trump. when asked by our reporters this afternoon how the prep is going, the lead manager, adam schiff of california, said it's going well. the managers were out in full force this morning, making their presences felt on the sunday political shows, with schiff emphasizing the need for a fair

trial. but he concedes that senate republicans' actions up until now, up to this point, have ma they'd outcome highly unlikely wnd schiff finds it ludicrous. >> imagine image that you're a juror and the judge comes in and says i've been in consultation with the defendant, working hand in hand with the defendant, and we've agreed i'm not going to allow the prosecution to call witnesses or show you any documents. no juror has ever heard that kind of a thing because it would be absurd. >> meanwhile, on the republican side, the president's legal team is using the age-old actactic deny, deny, deny. in a seven page response to democrats, trump's team says it categorically and unequivocally

denies the impeachment. it was summed up nicely by axios today saying, quote, concede nothing, admit nothing, apologize for nothing, talk for tv, and don't get into the weeds. and while democrats are pleading for fairness in the upcoming trial, republican senator and impeachment juror lindsey graham says this process hasn't been kosher from the get-go and hopes it goes away fast. >> here's what i'd say to the house folks. you took 48 days to impeach this president. you did not allow him to call my witnesses. he could not have a lawyer present during the intel committee. this has been a partisan railroad job and you're asking for fairness in the senate. you violated every norm of what we do. it took five years for starr to look at clinton. mural looked at trump for almost two years and you took 48 days.

the sooner this is over the better for the country. >> the timing of this impeachment trial is almost poetic. the prosecution of a blatantly racist president starts just one day after martin luther king day, and also one day after the third anniversary of trump's inauguration. joining me now msnbc legal analyst and university professor at the new school, maya wily. alexander hefner, host of pbs tv series the open mind. and ajoe watkins, a republican strategist and former aide to president george h.w. bush. let me go first to you, maya. there are those that talk about the clinton impeachment trial, and the difference between the clinton trial and this is there were witnesses and president clinton had agreed to be

deposed. there were no -- there was no one allowed to interview or depose president trump, and he barred all of thinks staff and those that were in his circle from testifying. so there's really no record to go into this trial other than who testified in front of the house, that he would not let his staff members and those working in the white house to testify. which heightens the reason why many feel there's a need for witnesses. >> well, i think what the public understands that you've just summarized quite well, reverend, trials have witnesses and every im35e6789 trial in the united states had one form or another. in the clinton trial, it was in the form of deposed witnesses, depositions. i think it's important to point out what was so misleading about lindsey graham saying ken starr took five years and somehow this

was a rushed investigation, and put together shoddily. which was really an effort to smear a lot of very clear evidence by essentially arguing that this was political, which is what their seven page brief does. the reason that's misleading, remember ken star started by looking at a real estate deal that bill clinton was engaged in. it wasn't five years. >> whitewater. >> yeah so he's acting as if fine years would have been a normal time span or any investigation has a set amount of time it must take. every case takes its own amount of time. one of the reasons this one was quick, in addition to what you've laid out, reverend, in terms of the stonewalling of this administration that has earned the president an article of impeachment for obstruction, is the fact that donald trump

and rudy giuliani themselves went out and made public statements saying what they did, and in addition we have the call summary, not a transcript but certainly a summary that then doubled down on the evidence that what they were seeking was in effect dirt on joe biden, and to try to smear the mueller probe. and as we know -- >> on maya's point, there really is no denying, as you read the response by the president's team, defense team in this case, that he did what he did. they're saying he did it, but it doesn't rise to the level of impeachment. is that going to be the basic argument when you hear alan dershowitz saying he's going to argue the constitutional question? >> they're going to deny, whitewash, engage in russian-esque disinformation tactics. but i'm tired of hearing about chief justice roberts

impartiality. the proof is in the pudding. the reality is this supreme court had an opportunity to review the cases and not whether the public should have access to trump business and personal tax returns, whether the public should have testimony of bolton and company. and they refused to release a timely decision in that order. so the chief justice knows, he's intelligent, that he's presiding over this trial where there's incomplete evidence in part because of his own cover for the republican party. this is a chief justice who sided with the majority that took voters off the rolls in i ohio only because they moved. he sided against marriage equality. let's understand this so-called judicial temperament. it may look like it but it's not the reality of the experience. and the democrats ought to be super watchful of this. we know this game from kavanaugh, from gorsuch. we know what game he's playing

to give the republicans cover. at the end game, those supreme court decisions matter an awful lot more, because the case for impeachment here is clear-cut. we know, trump made the call. we know it. wlal we don't have access to yet as the public is the tax returns and the expanded testimonies that would show the per vasiveness of the unconstitutionality. >>let me stay on the impeachment. joe watkins, if you only need 51 votes, which would mean all of the democrats and just four republicans, and you can't get 51 votes to say yes, we want to call witnesses, would that politically, you're the republican on the panel tonight, would that politically hurt some of the republicans in the senate that are running for re-election, lamar alexander, susan collins, ernst, gardner,

doug jones, mcsally, mccould youski, mitt romney, some of how are in very tight races? how do they justify the president was not deposed, wouldn't allow anyone around him to be deposes, and won't put up witnesses. you may win the battle and lose the war politically? >> you're right 37 those are going to be tough questions. mcsally is in a particular tight race in arizona. earnst in iowa has a tough race ahead. collins in maine is a tough race. lamar alexander may be surprising because he's not going to run for re-election. he's retiring after this term. he's not up in 2020. he may be free or feel free to do what he thinks is right and best, because he has a legacy to maintain. from that standpoint i'd say that the republican senators you might want to keep an eye on are

lamar alexander, keep an eye on mitt romney, murkowski from alaska as well. murkowski, collins, romney and certainly lamar alexander, key republican senators to wash. these are senators who are more independent minded who might do what they think is the best thing and might want to call for witnesses. >> let me go, maya, beyond the inside baseball of the proceedings that we can all give our best guess at this point. and look at the bigger picture. are we not really dealing with her, beyond someone's opinion of president trump or not, whether or not we are saying it is permissible for the president of the united states, whomever he or she may be, to use the outside influence of a foreign government on an election and use the leverage of that approved government funds, in this case military aid, to aid

them politicalry? aren't we arguing whether or not that will be permitted behavior going forward based on whatever happens in this trial? >> yes and i will go one step further and say it's the constitution itself that's on trial. donald trump's behavior, especially not just in obstructing congress, which has been unheard of, we've never seen a president, including richard nixon or bill clinton, ask for a blanket, blanket protection immunity from having any any of their senior aides testify before congress own a matter of impeachment. and to your point, you know, alan dershowitz is going to stand up there and say that a president cannot be impeached for abuse of power. and what's so outrageous about that is he himself made an argument during the mueller probe that actually if donald trump had gone to vladimir putin

and said, you know what, putin, i'm good for you, because i don't think there should be russia sanctions and you can be good for me because you can help me get dirt on hillary clinton i can use in my campaign and use in my election, he argues that that would not be impeachable. it is literally what you say and one step further, because what is left of the impeachment clause if abuse of power is no longer impeachable and you can avoid criminal findings because you prevent them from ever seeing the light of day. >> isn't that, alexander, what we're really talking about at the end of this process, are we really talking about what is the standard now that we've set for the presidency, for the coequal -- between the legislative, judicial, and executive branch, are we really

talk about the president of the united states, the executive branch has superior power over the legislature, they don't have to respond to subpoenas, deal with witnesses, are we really talking about the balance of power itself under question here? >> we are, rev. this was a pipe dream from the w years of a certain contingent in their counsel's office, you know tarn executive. the way trump speaks, we're talking about the stuff of kings. do we have democratic order? yes, it's a republic. can we keep it? that's what the speaker asked from the outset because she recognizes what the stakes are in terms of the core fabric of our decency and democratic norms and values. that's what's up for grabs here. in the ultimate analysis it will be key senate speeches and relationships that have any prospect of swaying those moderate republicans you mentioned. i think it's a great opportunity

for senator warren and sanders sidelined from the trail now, but they have a pivotal opportunity to speak to this battle krooi of anticorruption. that's been at the core of their political mission here. i'd watch to see if they, along with some moderate house members who were involved in the management of the procedure but also more moderate senators, can have any kind of persuadable effect on the cohort that you mentioned, romney in particular. >> joe, what about somebody in the republican senate saying, this is just a patriotic thing to do? if they're so confident the president did no wrong, why do they fear having witnesses? >> well, there are some again that may want witnesses. you've heard murkowski say and collins say they'd like to have a better understanding of what happens and they're open to having witnesses, calling witnesses. you might get a lamar alexander and maybe one other that might

say we need to hear from witnesses. there's a possibility to get three or four republicans that peel off and join with democrats and say we need to hear from witnesses. that's very possible. and it's also possible that there are a couple of others, three altogether retiring republican senators who don't have the burden of re-election weighing them down that may do what they think from a judicial standpoint the right thing. we'll have to wait and see. >> either way we're talking about a small number. it seems given the gravity of what we're talking about in terms of what the judicial process should be and the balance of powers. you and i are minsters, joe. to say that on a wing and a prayer does not speak well for this congress, this senate aband this president. maya wily, alexander hefner, and joe watkins, many thanks. a quick programming note. senate leader chuck schumer will

give an update at 8:00 p.m. eastern. stick with us. we'll have the latest news right here on msnbc. coming up, 2020 candidate michael bloomberg gave a major speech on economic development aimed at the black community and chose a very symbolic location to deliver the news. more in a moment. but first my colleague richard louie with today's stories. >> some, the nbc affiliate in honolulu reporting two officers have been shot and killed. they were responding to a stabbing near the base of diamond head mountain near waikiki. firefighters are also battling a blaze in the area. we'll continue to monitor and get you the latest. opening statements are set to get underway in the trial of harvey weinstein. he's pleaded not guilty to charges including sexual assault

and rape. jury sleks finished last week. queen elizabeth attended church accompanied by prince andrew in a rare show of support. it is her first public appearance since relaezing details on prince harry and meghan markle stepping back from the royal family. the wedded couple would give up their royal titles as she wished them a happy and peaceful new life. more "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton right after the break. let's be honest,

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today i'm proposing a sweeping and ambitious strategy, to invest in black wealth creation and close the racial wealth gap that playings our country. if we could elimb naichlt the racial wealth gap in this generation, we could add to the economy. >> with all other 2020 candidates spread out among the early voting states this mlk weekend, michael bloomberg chose to spend his sunday in tulsa oklahoma where this afternoon he delivered a major speech on economic development. the form new york city mayor spoke in the city that was once the home to the every-famous black wall street, the thriving epicenter of black business and culture until it was ultimately destroyed in the tulsa race riot

of 1921. joining me now, michael nutter, former mayor of philadelphia and chairman of the michael bloomberg campaign. thank you for coming on, mayor nutter. >> thank you. >> i read the speech, and the former mayor bloomberg got into specifics talking about targets on black homeownership, black business contracts, financial serves, and dealing with access to capital. and doing it then, tulsa which had been the epicenter of black business until it was burned down, the whole community, which was called black wall street, with good symbolism, why did mayor bloomberg comb out now? to get votes? to offset some of his baggage with stop and frisk and central

park five? no one could question that the speech was specific and breaks new areas. but what was the political rationale for him going today in tulsa? >> well, reverend, i appreciate the question. i'm not quite honestly sure there was a tremendous amount of quote/unquote political calculation. like bloomberg is running a campaign. we make all kinds of announcements on a regular basis. but the connection between his business success, his filan thopic success, and cities, in contrast to as you've laid out, understanding what really happened in greenwood. and that it was considered black wall street. and that there is a significant wealth gap income inequality between african-americans and white citizens and others. and so mike feels very, very strongly about the issue of prosperity, about the issue of economic opportunity, and wants

to drive that particular issue as a central component of his presidential campaign. >> now, when we look at the black wealth gap as opposed to whites, where i'd even think that mr. bloomberg mentioned it today, blacks are 10% of what whites have as assets of wealth in this country. >> uh-huh. >> is it now fair to say that him laying this out will challenge the other candidates to come out and deal with black economic inequality? because even though black unemployment is very low, it is still double to whites, and the wages that they get, you could be employed and not have the wages. have we not focused enough in terms of the democratic candidates on the economic disparities that still base -- that still are a problem for blacks even now based on race? >> oh, absolutely.

and it's certainly -- i mean, mike wanted to make this statement for our campaign and for himself and drive this particular issue, because he believes so strongly in it. you know, as you are very experienced to the world of politics, i would hope that other people running for office, running for president, would at least take a moment to think about, you know, kind of, well, where is our position on -- what is our position on this? where is our paper on this? what are we saying on these issues? this speech today should significantly impact the public policy dialogue and as you pointed out, the political conversation around these particular issues. but the short answer to your question is, no, we as democrats have not done enough to focus on these kinds of issues, and to be blunt about it, i don't -- i don't recall ever hearing a

white person and certainly one of means speak so directly, so eloquently, so forcefully, and brutally honest, in the conversation that mike bloomberg had today, not just with the folk who were in tulsa in greenwood, but across the country. >> now, he has baggage. i've challenged the surrogates for mr. sanders as well as mr. biden on the crime bill and other things. he with stop and frisk, central park five, how do you -- you're the chairman of the campaign. how do you deal with the fact that there are things that mr. bloomberg has had serious problems in the black community? how do you deal with that in the campaign and contrast that to the other candidates, have to deal with their own issues that have been raced in their career in terms of issues that deal with race? >> well, first i want to be

clear, i'm the national political chair, not the overall chair of the campaign. that's someone else's role and responsibility. i want to stay in my line. you know as well as i do, reverend al, that anyone that's been in politics for some period of time, whoever tried to change anything or do anything or accomplish anything, you're going to have some negatives that go with your work. it's the nature of the business. obviously i won't talk about any of the other candidates. mike has tried to address the issue of stop and frisk specifically during his time in office, you know, a lot of the controversy around that ultimately changing the way the police officers interacted with citizens, decreasing the stops by the time he left office by 95%, and crime continued to still go down. the same time, 9200 fewer people were murdererd in new york city during the 12 years he was mayor as compared to the 12 years before. that's a lot of people, family

members, sons and daughters and nieces and nephews and brothers and sisters who were not killed. those families i'm sure are appreciative of those particular -- at the same time he knows he made a mistake. he knows he made a mistake. and has tried to publicly whether at the church in brooklyn some time ago or even today specifically made reference to the mistake he made, the apology he has given, and as you well know, you continue to seek redemption for things that have happened from the past, but also you try to move things forward with, what are you going to do next? in dpaelg with issues of wealth, criminal justice reform, dealing with issues, how do you start a business whether in new york or tulsa oklahoma or philadelphia or anywhere else? how do we get people on their feeting with moving forward, so

fishes that might leads someone to get in trouble or potentially commit a crime are no longer in front of them because people are working, can take care of themselves and families and build wealth and create more vital neighborhoods. that's what mike wants to do. >> we've got to go. i thank you for being on again. i think every candidate has got to deal with their total record. i also thought it was interesting that he said today he endorsed the hr-40 reparations having a committee of study reparations. bloomberg campaign chair michael nutter, thank you for being with us. coming up a state of emergency in virginia ahead of a gun rally scheduled there tomorrow, we'll have the latest on where things stand. and martin luther king iii will join me to discuss his father's legacy and the challenges of fighting for civil rights in the era of donald trump. and in case you missed it,

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as thousands of gun activists are expected to take to the streets in richmond's capitol square with plans by out-of-state militia groups to attend as well. the fbi has already arrested several suspected neo-nazis after credible threats were discovered in connection with the event. for more on this, let's bring in our nbc news correspondent cal perry. he's in richmond. cal, what have you seen on the ground there? >> reporter: well, we're seeing people scouting out the situation. security is very tight, a number of people walking around with guns. as you said the concern is outside groups, militias, radical groups that have made threats against the people who are coming here to protest what people fear the most, is that we

could see a replay of what we saw in charlottesville. it is martin luther king day here tomorrow, that is why security is so tight, what is bringing people here. >> the fact that it is on martin luther king's holiday, who has been in history now as the apostle of nonlienlsu violence in this country and was killed violently, is this not some attempt to really confront what this country really is celebrating tomorrow with dr. king? why choose that day if you're not trying to offend a lot of americans and offend the legacy of dr. king? >> it's exactly that. it's a not so subtle attempt to do exactly what you're saying, a man who was killed by a fire arm, assassinated after fighting

for the rights in this country. not only of the nation but of virginia, where you have statues of jefferson davis, robert e. lee, statues that had to be added of arthur ash. i think that is the point of what we're going to see here tomorrow. >> nbc's cal perry in richmond, virginia. thank you. for more on this, let's bring in greg snider, a reporter who covers all things virginia for "the washington post." greg, let me start with this. even the president has tweeted about it. quote, your second amendment is under very serious attack in the great commonwealth of virginia. that's what happens when you vote for democrats. they will take away your guns. republicans will win virginia in 2020. thank you dems. well, first of all, there are no state elections in virginia in

20 twnt. he must be talking about his. but for the president to be whipping this up on martin luther king day, and after what we saw in charlottesville around confederate statues, these same issues, and the president saying there are good people on both sides, this is the last thing we need in an era where we're seeing hate crimes on the increase and where we see, even though it's pro-gun activists that are throwing the rally, these oughtside militia groups and neo-nazis coming into it, this is the last thing we need and particularly on king holiday. >> well, that's certainly what's caused a lot of concern here in richmond is the attention from outside groups, and some of the rhetoric that's been online and on social media with militia groups as far away as texas, oklahoma, nevada, pennsylvania, some other places that say

they're sending troops, smandos, convoys down here to richmond. it started out as something that was sort of home grown. there were resolutions being passed in rural counties around virginia where they were declaring themselves second amendment sanction wareries and saying they weren't going to enforce any gun laws they found to be unconstitutional. but at some point in the last month or so it sort of jumped the boundaries of the state and became a big online phenom nom. and this past friday afternoon, the law enforcement officials briefed leaders from the general assembly from both parties, democrats and republicans. the republicans have been criticizing governor northum for declaring a ban on firearms for the rally on monday. but after the briefing where they heard the intelligence from law enforcement officials what they're seeing around the country, they came out yesterday

and urged extremists and outside groups to stay away. i think it may have rattled them a little bit. >> do you think the proper things have been put in place, that we will not see clashes like we did in charlottesville? or is it even possible to avoid that, given the kind of words that we're reading online and some of the announced ints tons of some of these groups that are coming into this rally that is not really their rally? >> well, of course, it's hard to know what people will do once they get out in public and in a situation like that. and i'm not security expert. but from what i can tell, the state and law enforcement have gone to great extremes to try to prevent something, you know, like happened in charlottesville in 2017. they've put up fence barriers around capital square. they've got unentry point that's

got places for 17 metal detectors. they've got state police, capital police, city police. there's a tremendous amount of law enforcement presence. and they've been working and talking with some of the gun rights groups to encourage their members to give them information and be open about what plans are to try to stop violence from breaking out. so we'll just have to see. >> all right. greg snider, from "the washington post," thank you for being with us. up next, mlk day in the era of trump, we're joined by civil rights leader and my friend, martin luther king iii. we'll be right back. be right ba. while some 5g signals go only blocks, t-mobile 5g goes miles... beyond the big cities to the small towns... to the people. millions of americans can have access to 5g on t-mobile. this is just the beginning.

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ask your doctor today, if epclusa is your kind of cure. welcome back. on the eve of martin hurgt king jr. day, joining me now is no other than social justice activist human rights advocate and the eldest son of mlk jr., martin luther king iii. you're in washington. i'm joining you later tonight for our annual breakfast that you have been kind enough for years to co-chair. and as you wake up tomorrow, and as the eldest child and heir to

the work of your father, and we see the country polarized, we see a rise of hate crimes, we see blacks being charged with anti-semitic with anti-semitic attacks, we see people charged with attacks on blacks, we see a gun rally tomorrow where neo-nazis are talking about coming. how do you view this in light of all that your father gave, including his life, as we celebrate a day and we have as much or more enmity as we saw in the country in which he was killed? >> what we have to understand is we have to address what we can address. you can't beat hostility with

hostility. violence cannot put out violence, only non-violence. we have to operate at a far higher moral level than anyone else, even in a very uncivil, political environment. we have to maintain civility. dad talked about love and transformation. it's not just turning the other cheek, though, but it is showing there is a better way to do things. there are far more people who have goodwill who want to be positive than there are those of ill will. somehow we have to live without brothers and sisters no matter who they are. >> now, as you look at what is going on now and you encourage other forms of activism, and as you say, to take the higher moral standard that your father taught the world, one of the things that he achieved was mobilizing around the voting rights act. we see in your home state of

georgia what happened tonight, voters being purged. we've seen it in different parts of the country. how important is people voting, maintaining the right to vote and exercising their right to vote, this year? no matter who they vote for, how important is it in this climate that we deal with encouraging people to vote and dealing with voting suppression, particularly being emphasized tomorrow on mlk day? >> that is the most important issue. it's very interesting, reverend, that in our state where they have purged 300,000 voters, it's interesting that you're not -- it seems like if you can't vote, you shouldn't have to pay taxes. i don't know anybody who is not paying their taxes, so just because you don't vote a year or two and you get purged, there's something wrong with that law. but the only way to change that law is to participate in levels

higher. in other words, they said 300,000, we need to use 600,000. everywhere we can be registered, we need to register like we've never registered before, educate folk and then encourage people to go out to the polls. voter registration with education, ultimately, we think, will create participation. i think people have something to vote for this year unlike any time in history. i used to say, as you and many of us, this is the most important election of our time. this election truly is. >> now, in the few seconds we have left, what do you encourage people to do tomorrow on martin luther king day as martin luther king iii? what would you most like to see people do to recognize the holiday your mother fought for and your father is the principal of? >> in addition to going to programs, there will be

programs, i think we need to be transforming our communities. whatever that means, whether it's cleaning it up, whether that's painting, whether that is helping seniors, whether that is being involved with donating blood. do something around community service. if we can live in peace for a day, we can master a week. if we can master a week, maybe even a year or a lifetime. >> all right. martin luther king iii, thank you for being with us. another programming note later tonight. senate democratic leader chuck schumer is holding a news conference in new york city to give an update on the impeachment trial. that's at 8:00 p.m. eastern, and we will bring it to you live. up next, my final thoughts. s we made usaa insurance for members like martin.

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i became youth director in dr. king's new york chapter at 13 years old the year he was killed. i remember not long after that, mrs. coretta scott king and others began the drive to make a federal holiday after dr. king, which will be celebrated and commemorated tomorrow. it should not be a day you take off. it's not about the mlk sales at the malls. it's a day you should take on, to do something about the areas that we need to bring civil and human rights in, the areas we need to teach and learn peaceful

co existenkpi coexistence, the areas we need to bring the country together. i'm on my way to washington to meet martin luther king iii with a national network in the morning. we'll hear from what they have to say. there will be, among them, speaking to this poisonous atmosphere that we must find to, in a kinglike way, rise above. bill clinton, the 42nd president will be there. careen jean pierre will be there, people that have done things in different areas that we may not always agree, but we have one goal. even though we may approach it differently, we've got to bring this country together to deal with inequality and do it in a martin luther king kind of way. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next weekend. up next, "meet the press" with

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