situation is a loss. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, on the defense. the trump legal team presents its side of the case but democrats aren't buying it. new reaction from both sides this morning and what is next. >> take her out! >> the president saying "get it owner out!" we are learning more about what the president said in that explosive recording now released in its entirety. new details this morning on that clash between secretary of state and a reporter. we will get reaction from someone who covered mike pompeo on a recent overseas trip. big news on the 2020

campaign trail. three different candidates with reasons to be happy this morning. the new fears. deadly virus is spreading quickly across the world. china's president calling the situation grave. schools closed indefinitely and now the desperate efforts to evacuate thousands of americans from the infected area. good morning. it's sunday. >> it is sunday. sorry about that. >> no. absolutely. a very scary situation across the world right now. the chinese government saying that it is a grave situation but they are building two hospitals within the course of two weeks. >> quickly building hospitals? right? to keep up with all of the patient demand? >> we will have more on that later on. >> i'm lindsey reiser along with kendis gibson along with cori coffin. new material in the middle of the senate impeachment trial of president. what appears to be a private conversation between the president and business associate

of his personal attorneyy rudy giulia giuliani. >> he released an hour-long tape that appears to capture president trump discussing a number of topics including u.s. ambassador to ukraine marie yovanovitch and unclear whether the audio may have been edited. >> kelly o'donnell is joining us with more on all of this. what did we learn from all 83 minutes of this recording? >> reporter: it is really a window of what happened to a dinner that president of the united states is attendance and that may be the first insight. a lot of it is typical social banter and talking about golf and issues around the world. in 2018 when this was recorded, the beginning of the north korea dialogue was certainly in the news. that gets discussed.

there are things in that believe could be evidence for the impeachment trial. a long way to go before that actually takes place. but it does allow us to hear what we believe is the president, based on him appearing in the video, and as you pointed out, again, we can't confirm whether it's edited or not. it looks like herky jerky cell phone video and went on for 83 minutes. here is a little bit of what it tells u.s. about what the president was doing behind the scenes and some of the topics that came up. the shaky video provides a glimpse inside an april 2018 dinner intepeded to be private. the 80-minute recording just released appears to show president trump and his eldest son, the elegant placesetting marked for the president, about 20 seats around and intimate

table. touching on multiple topics including conversations that could be considered potential evidence in his impeachment trial. >> reporter: on the guest list, this man gave the recording to house democrats and the media and his associate who made the recording about this now indicted on federal campaign finance violations. he says he can be discussed discussing president trump with a discussion and to remove marie yovanovitch. the president sounded unfamiliar with the ambassador. and appeared to deliver an abrupt order.

>> but yovanovitch was removed one year later. friday, the president denied directi ining it. >> i want ambassadors chosen by me. >> reporter: so that is what we hear from the white house that the president has the ability to choose people to work in his administration as ambassadors who agree with his policies and that that is within his purview as commander in chief and the head of the executive branch to make those selections. again, this was a time when the president was seemingly unfamiliar with yovanovitch and she remained in her post for more than a year. so it's unclear if the interest in yovanovitch was coming from harness or the president was aware of these concerns at the time. in light of impeachment it all takes on a very different look. the two have pleaded not guilty

to the campaign finance violations and it is unclear if any of this will become information that senators will consider. but the lawyer said they wanted to get it out in the public so that there would be full access to this material so that everyone can evaluate it. >> they have more recordings, so we will see how many more come to light after this. kelly o'donnell, thank you. turning to the impeachment trial of president trump. >> senators return to capitol hill tomorrow for a second day of opening arguments in front of the president's lawyers. the defense team spent just two hours on saturday laying out its case where they focused on providing evidence that they claim house managers left out. >> you heard a lot of facts that they didn't tell you. facts that are critical, facts that they know completely collapse their case on the facts.

>> this case is really not about presidential wrongdoing. this entire impeachment process is about the house managers insistence that they are able to read everybody's thoughts, they can read everybody's intention, even when the principle speakers, the witnesses, themselves, insist that those interpretations are wrong. >> the bottom line is it is not possible for the brief security shins review to be used as leverage when president zelensky and other top ukrainian officials did not know about it. that's what you need to know. >> the democratic house managers say president trump's lawyers didn't point any actual facts. >> the president's case would not go into evidence, it would not deal with the subject of the accusations because they can't defend the accusations and they go into process and talk about how the house managers were terrible about the house procedures were terrible about how we denied due process but they wouldn't address the

realities of the case. >> first, they argue that the july 25th transcript doesn't show the two leaders making an explicit reference to a corrupt this or that quid pro quo or bribe bring scheme. as if you expect the two leaders on the phone would say, okay, thrs h this is how the bribery will work. >> i don't know when you're sleeping because you're covering this on capitol hill. did either side feel they scored more points? >> reporter: i think the republican senators in the room were relieved that the white house team came guard with even the basic defense outline that they presented yesterday. a lot of these republicans are looking for some reason to continue to support the president here. they want to acquit. they got enough holes poked in the case yesterday that they were happy about it. now looking ahead to monday, i think we will hear from some of the the president's more vocal

defenders as the trial resumes on monday including alan dershowitz and ken starr that the frpresident is fond of thate have seen on fox news. ken starr will argue that the house manager's case has not risen the high bar necessary for removal of a sitting president. the other element i think we will see on monday that we didn't see yesterday is a focus on joe and hunter biden, the president's attorneys want to introduce an element of question whether or not there was corrupt activity happening by the bidens in ukraine and lindsey graham said this of what he expects from the white house lawyers on monday. >> while the house did a good job, i think they overtried their case in many ways. and they left out some pretty obvious contradictions and that is the way it goes. and what they do monday along two lines. the argument is that the trump administration betrayed the

ukraine. can you combat that argument? the argument is there is no reasonable basis to believe that somebody should look at vice president biden's hson in the ukraine. if they show an evidence, then, you know, that goes right to the heart of what they are saying about corrupt motive. >> reporter: remember the next couple of days in the short term the most important question will four relative humidity senators decide that they want to hear more about this, do they want to hear from witnesses and do they want to subpoena additional documents is in the white house lawyers have a little bit of a needle to thread here. a goldilocks option they have to hit. they have to convince republicans there is nothing there and they have heard enough and not raise questions they want to hear from questions to the witnesses that they want to call and the fine line they have to walk on monday and you can be sure they will be doing some of what we saw from congressman schiff and nadler trying to fact

in real-time and poke holes in the president's case. >> it is a delicate dance, indeed. lindsey graham took a starring role in the house manager's presentation. did he get to see any of it? you were there in the galley. >> it was interesting. graham was an impeachment manager during the trial of bill clinton in the late '90s. democratic impeachment managers have tried to use some of graham's words then against him. they played at least one video clip of him, i believe on friday, even though the days are running together here a little bit. graham was out of the room when it happened. he said he wasn't feeling well and was in the restroom and said he wouldn't miss if it he he could. he said, there is no one likes seeing him on screen more than him is what lindsey graham said. >> all right. >> dershowitz has given media interviews neither obstruction or abuse of power are crimes. do you think that is part of his argument tomorrow? >> reporter: i think why they brought him in to argue there is no statutory crime here, no crime on the books you or i

could be charged with, therefore, the president should not be impeached. the problem for dershowitz going back to the late '90s and was arguing the opposite when it came to bill clinton. i think the impeachment managers have gone ahead of themselves here in terms of when they were presenting their arguments last week trying to pre-butt that and the danger of giving television interviews. democrats knew that was an argument dough she witnesses would make so they went back historically and laid out what the founders talked about they want high crimes and misdemeanors to means crimes against the public and crimes against the constitution and crimes against the body politic and not holding up a gas station and tried to make that abundantly clear in their presentation. i'm not sure how much water that will hold in dershowitz's argument. >> thank you, garrett. get some rest. thank you so much for being with us this early morning. >> all right. joining us is daniel strauss, a senior political

reporter with guardian." what was your takeaway from the defense key arguments? >> a few things there. number one, the basic theme throughout the entire period yesterday was that trump is innocent. what trump's lawyers said again and again is trump did nothing wrong and this is not worthy of impeachment. the only reason that they are here, these lawyers said, is because democrats are trying to overturn the election. beyond that, they really wanted to poke holes in technical aspects of the entire impeachment process. there is a lot of discussion of house managers and democratic house managers and procedures behind it. and then one of the other things i think that is important to keep in mind is that president trump has been indicating that he wants a showy trial. he has tweeted multiple times things that suggest that he wants viewers to tune into this thing and that he was somewhat

dissatisfied over the weekend that these proceedings were going during a time where there is usually less than maximum viewership. >> some republican senators giving their reaction to see the first round of arguments that they are wrapping up with. let's listen. >> what we heard today was very concise. it was full of truths and facts as presented from the house manager's own witnesses. >> what we saw today in just two short hours is what the house left out in 21 hours, all in the effort to undermine and impeach and remove this president and to undermine the election of 2020. >> it's pretty clear to me that the transcript is a selectively utilized by the house. >> they seem pretty unmoved. what are the chances that something could happen the next few days that could sway any gop senators here and if there are chances what would they be? >> there really aren't many

indications that any or many gop senators are likely to move over into democrats' camp during this intec impeachment process. there haven't been big indications or signals yet that would happen. i'm unclear at this point what would sway them. >> daniel strauss from the guardian, thank you. appreciate it. >> joining us to break down the defense legal arguments is katie fanning and glenn kirchner. your takeaway from the defense's opening arguments. >> so, you know, the defense actually made a couple of legitimate points. let me use their reference to ambassador volker's testimony as an example. they highlighted for the american people that ambassador volker didn't really have firsthand knowledge directly from the mouth of the president that he was either gauge inside a quid pro quo or that, you

know, he heard the president say he was looking for president zelensky to do him a favor. however, what that proves is that there is a need for additional firsthand witnesses. so, actually, i think every point the defense team made played right into the house manager's hands, showing that president trump's cover-up by ordering the firsthand witnesses not to imply with subpoenas, not to appear, not to testify, the pompeos and mulvaneys and boltons, that is actually proving that his obstruction of congress is successful. so i think they may have scored a point or two along the way, but every point they scored only proved that we need to hear from the witnesses and i hope that is the point that people will take

away. >> yeah, that was a telling takeaway for many people yesterday, in fact, glenn. the president's team only spending two of the 24 allotted hours to them yesterday. get a sense that was a good idea to keep it short? >> well, as president trump said, he thinks saturday is death valleys in tv which we beg to difference because of the weekend rotation. in trial advocates trial programs we kay keep it stupid. the idea keeping it short and sweet. if you have a captive audience that doesn't have an attention span, especially on the weekend to have hours upon hours of defense presentation argument, that it did make sense to only use two hours or a little bit less. what a problematic for the trump defense, only if you keep it simple/stupid you need to have a theme and bouncing around that

you heard from the defense trump team no quid pro quo no due process mueller report and cheating him out of the his 2016 election there was no cohesive or coherent theme from the defense and bouncing around the hit parade of fox news talking points yesterday. we really are going to see whether or not they come to the mat with a little bit more on monday and whether or not it's a little bit more substantive because, right now, there was nothing substantive in their arguments. >> the white house defense might not use all 24 hours of their time. thank you both. >> impeachment in iowa. several of the leading candidates forced off the trail to attend the trial, giving everyone else a chance to get a leg up in the race at a time when momentum matters. the secretary of state explains his treatment of former ambassador marie yovanovitch but it's what he said to a reporter and about that reporter that is making headlines this morning. alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need.

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welcome back. now to breaking news from overnight. health officials in orange county, california, confirming a third case of the coronavirus in the united states. a patient recently traveled to china and now is recovering from isolation. the virus is causing concern for air travelers here in this country. nbc has more. >> we had someone sick on the aircraft. >> reporter: in baltimore, a coronavirus square. medical officers escorted a passenger off a flight to vegas

and who had recently been to beijing. >> because of the times we are using this in abundance of caution. >> reporter: southwest said the following. maryland department of health saying the following. the extra presaurks symptomatcac of a nation on ends after two confirmed cases and one in chicago where a 60-year-old woman in isolation but in good condition. >> she had cold-like symptoms and shortness of breath, fever. many times, it would present just like a cold or flu. >> reporter: how concerned should ordinary americans be with this? >> a lot of people are concerned because they are hearing a lot of news about it right now but the reality comparing it to the flu, it's not even close to being at that stage. >> reporter: but there is still fear in new york city. pharmacies reporting a run on

surgical masks. >> everybody wants it. and people want to take appropriate precautions to protect themselves and their families, so yeah, there is a desperate. >> you want to stay with us. we have much more on the coro coronavirus later in the hour with dr. john torres. >> this is the question whether the masks can prevent it. >> the contact you need in order to get it. >> yeah. a lot of questions for dr. torres. now the race to the white house. eight days until the iowa caucuses. senator elizabeth warren has landed a huge endorsement with " "des moines register." after she spoke to a crowd in muscatine, iowa, she spoke about

the endorsement but also time to push her campaign. >> i'm delighted. it really means a lot to me. it really does. we need to restore people's faith in our country and in our government and we can't be a government that as long as one party is in power, they can break the law and they go home and the other party comes in. that can't be how it works. >> we didn't have the video of her celebrating but she did a little dance when she found out. >> she did a shimmy. >> poll shows bernie sanders has a strong lead in the state. most candidates focusing on the hawkeye state today and others spend time in new hampshire, florida, and nevada. joe biden celebrating the endorsement of an iowa newspaper. "the sioux city journal." he is joking about how he is already involved what is going on in washington. >> say i don't understand this new republican party, i think i understand them most better than

anybody. i've been their object of affection for sometime now. my guess you can turn your tv on today, you'll find my name mentioned many times. >> reporter: bernie sanders campaigning in iowa with the help of filmmaker michael moore and alexandria ocasio-cortez. >> i would hope this case, new hampshire, and the country, does not lose focus on one of the most important issues. what the most important issues are is that we are the wealthiest country in the history of the world, yet half of our people are living paycheck-to-payche paycheck-to-paycheck. in iowa, amy klobuchar was interrupted while she was sharing with a story about her father and longer health care.

>> the medicaid won't pay for his health care. hi, guy. how are you? let's all wave. freedom of protest. catholic d catholic -- catholic elder care has been willing to take him in at that point. so that is my dad's story. >> let's catch up with mayor pete buttigieg who spoke in iowa as a town hall he talked about impeachment and the problems facing the white house. >> let's turn to nbc campaign priscilla thompson who is in west des moines, iowa. sanders endorsed and also biden endorsed by two newspapers yesterday in iowa. do both have an advantage and both don't have to stay in d.c. for the impeachment trial? >> good morning. there is certainly some level of advantage there. both biden and buttigieg were in the state this week and andrew

yang hosting events throughout the area. a large percentage of voters still undecided or still able to be swayed, that is something that is not lost upon the senators who are stuck in washington, d.c. we are seeing a number of then deploying surrogates to the state to host events on their behalf. senator amy klobuchar hosted a teletown hall and up to 20,000 people they say tuned in for. i think going into the final days ahead of the caucus, we certainly will see more of those tactics used by senators in washington, d.c. to still get their message out to voters here in iowa. >> creative tactics, definitely, indeed. had how are the 2010 candidates reacting to the impeachment trial? >> you know, the senators will, you know, without hesitation acknowledge that, you know, their primary role, they have a constitutional duty here to address this trial and i think what you're also seeing, though, a number of candidates who aren't directly involved in this trial like pete buttigieg and

joe biden, so they are focusing their attention on 2020. this week, joe biden was asked about his son hunter testifying and he sort of dismissed that idea and said, look, the senate will focus on trying donald trump. i'm focusing on defeating him. pete buttigieg yesterday was asked a question by a voter about impeachment and take a listen to what he had to say. >> if you're like me, that watching this impeachment process is exhausting. it's demoralizing, right? i live and breathe politics and i find it exhausting! makes me want to change the channel and watch cartoons! but that's how we win is to refuse to walk away. we have highing and firing power over those folks and this is our chance to send a total different message and say, no, you can't get away with that. no one is above the law. >> there you see someone who is

not directly involved in those impeachment proceedings. pete buttigieg who sort of called what is happening in the senate a foregone conclusion and is instead trying to focus the conversation on 2020 and saying, you know, regardless of what happens in washington, d.c., the people have the power to decide what will ultimately happen in 2020. >> nbc priscilla thompson, thank you. >> only eight days to go. taking sides. why is treasury secretary steve mnuchin is criticizing this teen and what mnuchin's wife is saying about it. >> tune in this morning later on with am joy. she will speak with representative val demings. catch it only on msnbc at 10:00 a.m. eastern. t 10:00 a.m. eastern we made usaa insurance for members like kate.

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i'll say only this. i have defended every state department official. we built a great team. the team that works here -- >> where have you defended marie

yo v yo v yovanovitch. >> what happened after that interview is making waves this weekend. he was speaking with mary louis kelly who claimed she was confronted and scolded by america's top diplomat after their interview. here is a listen. to be clear she holds a degree from harvard and earned a master's degree in european studies at cambridge. >> is that all? >> and also never agreed the

conversation was off the record which needs to be explicitly mentioned before any kind of exchange like that. the drama doesn't end there. secretary pompeo released a rebuttedal to the department saying, quote. >> he continued on here. this is another example of how unhinged the media has become in its quest to hurt president trump and this administration. it's no wonder that the american people distrust many in the media when they so consistently demonstrate their agenda and absence of integrity. it is worth notesing that bangladesh is not ukraine. >> chief washington correspondent kevin sirrelli is joining us and nope the difference between ukraine and

bangladesh. what do you make with all of this and do they have a map with nothing written on it to just point out? >> to quiz people? >> i didn't get a geography test during my travels with the secretary of state. look. i'm not going to inject myself into that story. i want to stick to policy because i asked secretary pompeo when i interviewed him about why americans should care about ukraine and policy. and what he told me was that ukraine is on the border of democracy and tyranny. as we cover the impeachment is worth asking because regardless of which party you're in ukraine is at the center of this and ukraine has been really at the center of russian expansion foreign policy and really what is at stake here. whether you're talking about venezuela, which is also reportedly being propped but i the russians and cubans or talking about ukraine trying to

go on offense with the annexation of crimea, these are moves that foreign powers are taking. it's worth noting also that reportedly the secretary of state is going to be -- he told me this as well -- going to be traveling to ukraine in the near future to again meet with leaders of ukraine. so it's a question that i think is going to come up, regardless of who is in office and it's a question i also think democratic presidential candidates have to answer as well. >> his previous trip to ukraine was delayed because of the crisis with iran. >> one of the sticking points of the white house has been that the u.s. has been helping ukraine, particularly this administration, more than previous, more than obama's administration and more than european leaders. do you think that that argument is speak with other lawmakers as well as voters? >> i'm not sure if it's resonating with voters. i think if you look at democratic polls, they would suggest that democrats are, obviously, deeply unhappy with the way that the trump

administration has carried out foreign policy. when i talk to republicans, it's a bit more nuance and i think it comes down to ultimately is the rhetoric matching the policy, especially when it comes to sanctions. many republicans are satisfied with how the administration has pressured russia on ukraine specifically. >> turning now to the treasury secretary, steve mnuchin, kevin. days ago, he dismissed a climate activist's calls for divestment in fossil fuel industry. mnuchin, i'm quoting here. now mnuchin's wife got involved posting did you deleting 30 minutes later, supporting greta. why does the trump administration keep picking on this teenager? you got a sense? >> say what you want about greta. she has really become a voice in

this movement. i mean, you know, davos just concluded and she was a dominant voice on this issue and got reaction from the treasury secretary. >> that, she did. and his wife, apparently! >> and his wife on instagram, on i.g. >> a animal rights activist and a lot of people think why she defers from her husband in environmental causes. here are trending stories now. a promotion from across the pond. we are not not done talking about royals. qns elizabeth has given prince william a new title days after prince harry and meghan is not a part of the royal family. police have arrested a florida man for allegedly pointing a laser at planes and helicopters and accused of doing

it each blinding one pilot temporarily. the suspect pointed the laser at police helicopters responding to the scene. president trump tweeted the official logo of the space force. here it is. but it's got "star trek" fans attention. here it is here. here is the logo and the "star trek" star fleet command seal and this. apparently it rervesembles the space command logo in 2005. you be the judge. either way, "star trek" fans are saying, you got to pay out some royalties for that one. >> what was really weird for many people was not just the logo but the president said it will be this as opposed to this. never mind. a "star trek" reference. >> definitely "star trek" fans will get that.

either way he has to pay out some royalties. >> if there is copyright lawyer around, absolutely. >> how is that so controversial already? up next, one senator among 100 who says they want to speak -- hear rather from witnesses. could more follow suit? witnesses. could more follow suit catch three house impeachment manager's interview and the history three women have served on such a role so kasii's conversation with these three women will be tonight at 7:00 eastern only on msnbc. t at:0 70 eastern only on msnbc. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one.

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tonight's grammy awards, 62nd annual will kick off on a cloud of controversy for one taylor swift abruptly pulled out of her surprise performance? >> i wonder if they will have more eyeballs after all of this? >> because she pulled out? >> in general? >> this after former ceo files a complaint against the reorganized academy and calls the performance rigged. >> you say in some cases the nominating process has the involvement of some people who have an interest in the nomination, artists who might be there are in the room? >> absolutely. >> not just the artists. it's the people who have

business affiliations with the artists as well. >> could represent the artists. >> reporter: are in the room? >> joining us now is lola who is a night host of "entertainment weekly the show." they respond saying the following. is this he said/she said going to affect viewership tonight? >> it's interesting, because i think this controversy might actually help viewers to tune in, they will want to see if any of the artists actually address this scandal. so bad press may actually be good press for the grammys this evening. >> do you think it's time for maybe a more transparent process with all of this? because it sounds like a lot of dirt is coming up that maybe people had not known before? >> what makes these bombshell allegations potentially interesting everybody thought the voting process was pretty

transparent. >> lemonade? >> well, 12,000 voters. >> don't get me started. >> i see we have a member of the bee hive! still smarty! >> still bitter about lemonade not winning! diana ross has only 12 wins? sorry. okay. >> any more you'd like to share with us before we go on? >> let me pull the earrings off! continue! >> while we are at it, let's talk about mclemore beating out his opponent. people are scratching their heads and curious and this may shed light on why they walked away with nominations in subsequent awards. that said, the academy saying this is not true she created a toxic work environments and when he asked for a pay-out and when they didn't give it to her, she made these skcurry allegations.

>> how can you pull out if you're taylor swift from a performance nobody knew was going to happen? >> it was a surprise performance that was supposed to happen. given all of the allegations have come out this week, that surprise ended up being subsequently cancelled. so surprise! >> surprise! >> is she sporting dugan? >> people are taking her absence as a sign she is in support of dugan but alicia keys is hosting this year. arianna grandman is coming back. lis o l lizzo els be in the house. >> you spoke with brad pitt. >> really? >> you spoke with brad pitt. >> yes. >> is there a reunion that is going to happen? what is happening with brad and jennifer? >> brad and me, brolo?

i'm sorry. who? jennifer? who. >> all we need to know about that. >> so it's not happening. >> fairy tales do happen. maybe back together. they are both single, they appear ready to ming him. i don't think as long as brol za a thing anything benifer is happening soon. moving on, overnight from california, another case of that deadly virus now confirmed in the united states. >> a question now, is it a reason to worry? dr. john torres separating fact from fiction next. dr. john torres separating fact from fiction next. ah, look out! abandon nut! [screaming] ah, we're too heavy! matt, let go. no, you let go. hey, mr. peanut! no, you don't. don't do it, mr. peanut. nooooooooooooo ugh.

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in wuhan china. >> dr. j. torres is joining us right now. it seems this is rapidly spreading. we have that new indicaticase h california. should we trust the numbers now all the folks the chinese stuff are doing? >> i think you can trust the numbers. in the sars investigation, they didn't say anything for a few months. they're being very transparent. the cdc had conferences they listened in on. that's one of the things they are being transparent and quarantine and get it under control. they let the cat out of the bag over initially the first week-and-a-half or so. that's what you are seeing is kind of a delay. people that got sick two weeks ago are seeing cases. you see this buildup of cases

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