i won by four million votes, i won overwhelmingly in delegates. there was no question about who was going to be the nominee, but unfortunately his campaign and his principle supporters were just very difficult and really constantly not just attacking me but my supporters, we get to the convention, they're booing michelle obama and john lewis. i mean, it was very distressing. >> good evening, and welcome. i'm in des moines, iowa, where in just two days, we will get our first sense of which democratic candidate voters want to see go against donald trump. with the events of the last 36

hours, show that the dems are having aft shocks from the last presidential election. the latest sign of a party's infrastructures from 2016 have gotten close to healed starting with those comments on hillary clinton, defeating bernie sanders tand her comments in a separate interview where she said nobody liked senator sanders. clinton has clarified and said she will vote for whoever the nominee. take a look at what happened in an event outside des moines. >> you guys remember last week when someone by the name of hillary clinton said that nobody, we're not going to boo. we're classy here. we're classy. >> i'll boo. boo. >> you all know i can't be quiet, no, we're going to boo. that's all right. the haters will shut up on monday when we win. >> there we go.

yikes, this morning, talib walked back her comment in a tweet and said quote, in this instance, i allowed my disappointment with secretary clinton's latest comments about senator sanders, our movement deserve better. clinton spokesman nick merrill issued this statement. i can't imagine this kind of behavior is something that iowans want to see from candidates and their surrogates. i don't imagine the vast majority of voters in congresswoman talib's district which secretary clinton won by over 60 points in 2016 want to see this either. joining me is britney cunningham, cofounder of campaign soo campaign zero. erin haynes editor at large, the 19th, and sherry mortise, the president of iowa cc one action. thank you all for being here. i have to go to you first,

charlie, as sort of a knneutral party here. it does feel like we are living in groundhog day, and the 2016 primaries will never end. >> it really is time for the 2016 election to be over. this is reminding me of the star trek episode with frank gorshen where one guy was white on one side and black opt other, and the other guy was reversed. that's what this is. everybody let it go, seriously. >> and the fact that they can't let it go that this rift in the party is still so raw for both hillary clinton supporters and obviously the candidate, and for bernie sanders supporters particularly he doesn't talk about it as much. it shows that the democrats are not taking a single party into the 2020 election. they're taking basically two parties, which are still at war. this is, you know, this is worse than 2008. >> well, i mean, i think what you are seeing is that this wound has been opened anew,

right, you talked to the sanders campaign, hillary clinton drew first blood by bringing this back up again. this is not just bad blood, lingering over from 2016. these are fresh comments coming out of a documentary. yeah, i think, you know, you saw representative talib saying, you know, that she would boo. the audience, they started that boo, and the moderator, you know, referred to hillary clinton as a hater, and so yes, i mean, this rift is still very fresh for a lot of folks and that, you know, could portend badly, especially if senator sanders is the nominee. will hillary clinton unify around him as she said that she would in those later comments. you know, is that going to hold up once we actually get to, you know, a general election. should he be the nominee. >> and let me go to this. i don't feel like it was reopened and obviously by the interviews that hillary clinton has given. if you're on social media at all, you know it has never ended and the feelings that sanders

supporters from 2016 had about the party, about the dnc, and about hillary clinton, supporters never changed and so i wonder from your point of view how what we saw from the congresswoman and i'm an open fan of the squad. i think they're brilliant. i think they are changing the party in a great way. the fact that they too have that feeling, how would sanders unite a party behind him that he and his supporters still have such resentment toward? >> you know, i think if you're on the ground here in the state of iowa, you're seeing just an incredibly strong ground game, and so i think what the campaign and what supporters in this state are really focused on is just this incredible momentum. and so these are really somewhat of a, kind of a distraction. we're really excited about senator sanders is surging and it's on a basic message. you know, his consistent basic message, and that is we need medicare for all. we have people being crushed by medical debt.

we have to do something about the minimum wage. in the state of iowa, our minimum wage is 7.25. so i think that the membership is really, we are so caught up in this incredible ground game, and i think that -- i think that, you know, you see him on social media, i'm on twitter, you know, i have a facebook page, but it isn't the kind of thing that i'm gravitating to because we have a ground swell of support. >> but you're inside the camp, and so, you know, and i don't want to leave britney out of this, but it's not a distraction because there are two parts of campaigns, right, there's the mechanics, which is what you're talking about, getting out the voters, and there's also the message, the sort of messaging of the campaign, the image of the campaign, and outside of people who are already inside sanders world, who are already supporters, the sanders campaign can sometimes feel a bit hostile. the question is if this senator who is an independent manages to become the standard bearer of the democratic party. he's never been a member of but

he's part of obviously the caucus, if he were to become the standard bearer, how does the caustic part of the party, how does that attract the rest of the party to feel loyalty to him? >> you know, i think that take for example, i live on the east side of des moines and that's the working side class, and i'll tell you what, my neighbors are fired up for bernie. >> i mean the ones who are not. i mean, we did a little poll behind us, there are lots of people who like biden, who like buttigieg, who like klobuchar, who like warren. and if their candidate doesn't get the nomination, sanders still is going to want them to vote for him. i'm not talking about sanders supporters. >> i think his message resonates across the board. because every day people are hurting. this is a rigged economic system that is crushing people with debt. we are students being crushed with debt. we have immigration reform we need desperately. we have somebody in the white house that is, you know, separating women and children.

>> a candidate still has to sell themselves. let me get britney in here, and see what you think about this. you are on social media as mi, social media is not the real world. let's be honest. social media is just social media. it is part of the imaging. i don't know how many think pieces we can write. there is a bend the knee aspect of the pitch such as it were to all the other voters. does that work with all the other voters? >> well, first of all, happy black history month, joy. january was a long year, but we made it. >> yes, yes. >> and you know, i think that this calculus of alienation is frankly quite confusing to me. like i'm an activist, i believe in conflict as long as the conflict is productive. and i have great respect for the congresswoman, and i believe that she apologized because she knew even though that moment was true to how she felt, she knew that that wasn't productive conflict. frankly, i endorsed secretary clinton in 2016, but i don't

think she's been contributing to productive disgroe productive disagreement either and there's a way to have legitimate disagreements that's restorative and doesn't run the risk of leaving people out and getting people to stay home when it really matters. i don't think this is the smartest move at all, and i think ultimately this campaign has to decide if it's going to be a light in the darkness or if it's going to get caught in the same kind of nastiness that we see in the other party. >> yeah. i was at the event last night, and up until that moment, it was a great event. ilhan omar told this amazing story about seeing movies about the united states when she's in the refugee camp, when she's being prepared, trying to get acclimated and there were all these leave it to beaver movies in america, and she talked about getting off the plane in new

york and seeing homeless people on the street and saying this isn't the america you promised we would get, and her father said we're going to get to the america, i promise you, and i thought that was just brilliant, and five minutes later this thing happened and blew the moon completely. it demolished the mood, and i thought politically, it was christmas day yesterday for the bernie campaign because of the bloomberg being allowed into the debate. that is right down the wheel house, and again, we got -- it got sidetracked because of the hillary bernie thing. bad politics. >> you know, joy, i think to your point, what we are talking about, the candidates as they are making this final push going into the weekend, we have been talking so much about electability, and the candidates' electability, and it's been such a raw election for iowa voters, caucus goers over the past year, but you hear the candidates really talking about a message of unity. you have multiple candidates talking about unifying, you know, not just setting that tone, coming out of iowa, but through this nomination process and headed into the general

election, and so as much as what the candidates are going to do, what these voters are going to do, you know, coming out of this primary is also a real question that's being raised by this rift. >> absolutely. and i want to get beyond this, but let me quickly play jennifer pal m palmeri. >> part of the problem for clinton was we had every day 17 people attacking her. you had two democrats and 15 republicans, so when you got to the general election, there were a lot of senator sanders supporters that were never going to come her way. it is really corrosive and when donald trump and democrats are making the same argument against another democratic argument that sticks and it hurts them later. >> michael moore who was on my colleague david gur earlier this

afternoon. take a listen. >> people were already booing hillary before rashida said anything because that's the lechl -- level of anger. maxillary's comments about bernie, nobody likes him, he can't win. that only exists to help donald trump. it was divisive, it was cruel and it was a lie. >> sherry, here are the numbers. biden and sanders are like neck in neck. if you look at the margin of error, really the top four candidates are bunched up in the race, 23% in the latest monmouth university poll of iowa voters, biden 23, sanders 21, buttigieg, 16. warren, 15, and down from there. the only other person in double digits, amy klobuchar. would you be prepared to fully support joe biden as the nominee? >> if he gets the nomination, but, you know, i think that this is all a reaction to bernie's

strength right now, i mean, this is a reaction from the dnc. because of bernie's strength. >> what does the dnc have to do with it? >> when they allow another candidate in, people want to make a big deal about it. we don't really care. >> you're talking about bloomberg. >> or they're going to make a big deal about an argument or somebody booing, that is just a reaction to bernie's ground swallow support and it's growing every day. i just left my neighborhood, and i had a bernie knocker and i already had a bernie sign, you know, in my lawn. they're checking the list, and they're checking it twice. i'm here to tell you, it really, all this stuff really doesn't matter because we know that bernie's surge is real because east authentic, he's consistent and because he's going to win. >> what if he doesn't, what then, do you believe that your friends who are part of, you know, the world of bernie sanders supporters will move on then to the general election nominee and be enthusiastic supporters, no matter who it is.

>> you know what, i can speak for myself. here's the thing, i will support the democratic nomination because anything is better than what's going on in washington, d.c. but, you know, we're not focused on that because we know right now that bernie is ahead. bernie is ahead, you know, and bernie is going to show up big and strong in the caucuses, and we're going to win this caucus. >> we don't want to make this about these two against each other. as you're talking to people in the world, is that what you're hearing as well, this is essentially a bernie biden two person race or broader than that. elizabeth warren has had big events here. there's buttigieg support. there's other people. do you get the sense that anyone else, bloomberg, anyone, has got any momentum. >> i think it's much broader than that, and i think we have to remember, polls were telling us one thing in 2016, and we got a very different result. ultimately we won't know who people like until they head to the ballot box. there's a lot of energy around a

lot of candidates but mostly there is energy around saying thank you, next, to 2016. we have seen the song and dance, and we know what happens when people of good conscience who want the same result end up fighting with each other. it leaves a gaping hole for fa sh -- fascists walking right through. we haven't even figured out how to make sure everybody's vote counts when they come to the ballot box in 2020. let's get our priorities in order and ensure that every voice is heard in this election. >> you know, erin, your news organization, the 19th is focused on what women care about. what are you hearing back as you're talking to people on the campaign trail? what are women telling you they want to see happen? >> well, women are very concerned about who they feel is going to be the best candidate to beat president trump. >> do they care whether it's a

woman? >> no. i mean, not necessarily. but that is not to say that they are -- they are very adamant, a lot of women i'm talking to that a woman can win. but there are certainly some that have some concerns about that, and so that is the electability argument that you have heard from amy klobuchar here, that you have heard from senator elizabeth warren who has an ad out, saying she can't win, trying to reassure people who may like candidates like warren or klobuchar, but really, women, like many democrats, i mean, their top priority seems to be beating this president in november. >> what about you, charlie, i wonder if the entrance of bloomberg, what impact do you think it's having on all of us? >> i don't think it's having any impact here, except anticipatory dread, what will the iowa caucus mean when mike bloomberg is really in the race, instead of being a tv commercial. and the other thing i want to say is the overwhelming feeling

i get on all the other issues is dread, uncertainty. what's going to happen next with my health care. what's going to happen next, what's the next lunacy to come down the pike. what's the next bunch of e-mails, nobody's got their feet under them right now, and i think they're going to wind up because of that seeing a lot of people throwing punches in the dark because it makes them feel safe. >> the thing that this -- the opposite of 2008 in that in 2008, there was excitement, and anticipation and people believed therm going to win. all -- they were going to win. all i hear around this country is dread. thank you for being here. it was great to meet you. really appreciate it. britney packnet cunningham, charlie pierce and erin haynes, stick around for our next hour. the political sage who predicted 2018's big blue wave tells us

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we have this unique opportunity to see everybody. and if you don't go out, i mean, you're just fooling yourself. >> i'm going some more research this weekend, but honestly it will probably come to the day of. >> there's just so many to choose from, it's really hard to

know. >> with just two days to go until the iowa caucuses, many voters say they are still undecided as they take in the 11th hour pitches from democratic candidates honing in on the hawk eye state. who will come out on top, we must know the answer now. joining me now to read the tea leaves, an election whisperer who called the 2018 midterm elections, rachel bitcougher, assistant director with the w wassen center for public policy. i can't take it anymore, i have high anxiety, i'm drinking all this coffee. this caffeine is really bad for me. i need to know who's going to win the iowa caucuses and i need to know now. >> it's one of the hardest things to predict, and especially this cycle because one of the things that i have been anticipating for many months, i let my 2020 forecast out in july, but i have been long anticipating to see the turnout in iowa because i'm expecting historic turnout,

something that exceeds the really high turnout of 2008's cycle, and because of that, and i am pretty sure that's what we'll see, we really just, it's very hard to anticipate what's going to happen, because we're going to be looking at a very different electorate than what we're used to in that iowa caucus electorate. >> let me go through the polls, i'm not sure how meaningful they are at this point because they're so bunched up. you have the iowa monmouth university poll that shows joe biden a skoesh ahead of bernie sanders and pete buttigieg, and tom steyer, let everybody take that in for a second. then you've got the monmouth university poll, which is what's the most important to likely caucus goers, they're firmly decided opening to changing your top choice, don't know or no first choice. 47% say they are firmly decided on who they're going to pick. a lot of people are opening to

changing. then we go to the "wall street journal" 2020 democratic primary poll, bernie sanders is on top by 1 percentage point. that's literally the margin of gorgeous, and joe biden, elizabeth warren, mike bloomberg is fourth. then we go to the nbc "wall street journal" poll priorities in choosing a candidate. best chance to beat donald trump overwhelmingly is what people care about, proposes large scale policy changes, 58%, will continue president obama's policies and agenda, 28%, electing the first female president, 21%. is there a way with all of this data to figure out whether it's the priorities that people care about. how does any of this help someone decide who to vote for? >> well, especially when you consider this, if you ask a bernie sanders supporter, they're going to tell you sanders type candidate with a bold progressive vision, a warren candidate, that's the kind of candidate that has the

best chance of beating trump, and on the other side, you're going to hear that it's a biden type, maybe a buttigieg or a klobuchar type, somebody who might be more attractive to the more moderate voters, that is more electable. ele electability is in the eyes of the beholder. you have to keep that in mind. everyone wants to beat trump. everyone wants to put the candidate that can best do that. everyone solves that equation quite differently, and usually depending on what their own preferences are, and one other thing i would say, too, about the polling, right, so we do know that it is basically a statistical tie, and you know, if that has been a very reliable conclusion from all of the reliable quality polls, we're going to get our final poll, and my expectation is much of the same. maybe biden will be a little ahead or sanders will be a little ahead. ultimately i think what we're going to see is the 50%

undecided vote going in, you know, we've got one of the wonderful, i'm so excited to be on site tomorrow night at the iowa caucus to watch the, you know, the first quorum happen and the realignment process, but i think that realignment process is going to be extremely crucial this time. it always is. but think about the fact that we have these six or seven candidates that have been polling a pretty good chunk of people, right, and we know that four of them are probably not going to make that 15% quorum, and they are going to have to go somewhere else and the rules change this year has put an additional amount of intensity and pressure for them to realign quickly to somebody else. right? that first ballot they have to change and they have to lock in. and that's why i think you see the sanders campaign pushing back with rashida tlaib putting out the apology, and no one wants to make the last minute mistake that pushes undecided or

realigning voters away from your coalition. you combine that with a new electorate we haven't seen before with more young people, and more moderate type people, you know, when you have a high turnout primary or caucus, you're getting less committed partisans than you normally have which are usually the id logically driven people participating in primaries. my advice to all the campaigns and surrogates out there is to keep your expectations low, and that way you'll always beat them. >> there you go, and i have a question. i'ming to l i'm going to let you in on some things we're talking about, what happens if it's a complete split decision in the first four primaries, let's say the same person wins iowa, new hampshire, then a different person wins nevada and a different person wins south carolina, is there anything in the statistical sort of probabilities that says if

it's a muddle going into super tuesday, does that make the ultimate nominee weaker or can a nominee that comes out of a very muddled process, do they have the same chaince of beating the incumbent president. >> in terms of the general election, i think that is set in stone. i think the democrat has an advantage in the general election, even if it's a sanders type candidate assuming that the mainstream party will rally around and support him. but where we do run into trouble with your hypothetical is if we have, you know, say sanders wins iowa, and new hampshire, he's not going to get a lot of momentum from those victories, they're expected and new hampshire is a home state contest, and then we get into nevada and south carolina and biden starts picking up steam, like there is a really strong potential we're going to go through super tuesday and see multiple candidates clearing that 15% delegate threshold, picking up delegates and that is extremely, i mean, just extraordinarily unusual for

these primaries. usually you come into super tuesday, it's two, maybe a third distant polling delegates and it is -- there's just a really strong potential this time around to see four, or even perhaps five because of bloomberg candidates, you know, viable at that point, and that would be, you know, frankly speaking, an abject disaster for the democrats and certainly not something that they should covet happening, and another potential thing i would put on people's radar is we come out with a biden sanders like head-to-head coming out of south carolina and super tuesday, and then bloomberg, who kind of put himself into the race as a safety valve in case sanders beat biden has actually put himself in a position where he may very well cause the thing he says he's trying to prevent. really his strategy has exceeded his expectations, they're

certainly not mine. name identification and advertising is extremely powerful in the electorate, and bloomberg's hitting that 10% mark. if he keeps going, there is a potential that we're going to see the moderate vote with two well-financed campaigns with a lot of money in advertising and sanders, right, going down that final stretch and that would be, you know, for sanders a great thing because it would give him all of that progressive wing to himself, but for the moderate wing of the party, it would be a disaster. >> oh, my god, and then the idea, and then if bloomberg were to win that, what happens with the sanders vote, then, if it's bloomberg. it's not even biden. now i have a headache. rachel, thank you very much, always appreciate you, and i'll see you in iowa. you're heading this way. thank you very much. >> yes. and up next, michael bloomberg is at the center of a new controversy engulfing the dnc. w controversy engulfing the dnc. he wanted a man cave in our new home.

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we have seen over the years. you need a manager to run the country. you need a manager to run new york city, and so why vote for me, 12 years, you lived in new york city, you don't have to answer the question, but i would bet my life that you would not say that the city wasn't a lot better when i left than it was when i got there. >> while democratic candidates are making final pitches in iowa, one 2020 contender is noticeably absent and that is former new york city mayor michael bloomberg. he is skipping all four early voting states to focus on super tuesday and using his huge personal fortune to saturate the air waves in a way most other candidates cannot compete with, includes his campaign ad targeting gun violence set to air during the super bowl. michael bloomberg sat down with my friend and al, the reverend al sharpton, host of "politics

nation" on msnbc, and big brother action network. always good to talk to you. >> good to be with you always, joy. >> so rev, you ran for president, you are familiar with the whole process. what do you make of and did you ask michael bloomberg about the fact he's skipping the traditional route to get to the presidency or the nomination. >> i did ask about that. the interview was before the rules was changed so we didn't talk about that, but he did explain that his strategy was he came in late, he couldn't get his campaign up in time for the four states so he he's coming in on super tuesday because of that. many raising the issue of he and steyer coming in with big money, and certainly that is going to be an issue that he's got to deal with, and i think steyer is also going to have to deal with it. bloomberg has said that he would

put big money behind whoever the eventual nominee was if he was not the nominee, and i also asked him point-blank, would he do that if he ended up with the nominee being bernie sanders who has been really the opposite of him on many of the issues and he for the first time i know said to me, yes, although he does not like to say he would support whoever wins, he feels donald trump is so bad, he would support bernie sanders, which i thought was interesting. >> yeah, that's actually news making that he would support him because there's a lot of people who believe he got into the race as sort of a stop sanders candidate. that's interesting and i understand as you said, the rules change, it happened before, and this is per politico, the dnc overhauling the debate rules which essentially allowed bloomberg who's self-financing to come in. a lot of the controversy over that is because michael bloomberg is not just a

republican turned independent turned democrat, he's also a big donor, according to a new york headline, michael bloomberg, well, actually, i don't have his previous, but he's donated $800,000 i think is the estimate in the last cycle to give to the democratic national committee. did he respond to you on this question of his influence with the dnc as a donor and whether he has an unfair advantage because he's such a big donor. >> no, he didn't. i think that the donor issue he's going to have to address particularly since after our interview two or three days later, they came out with the donor point. but i also think that what is interesting here is they raised the bar in terms of polling and i think it's four states you have to have 10% or you have to have a delegate out of new hampshire or iowa where you have to have 15% to get to bat so really it's the polling question

that is going to determine their new level of where the bar is to be in the debates and that's not going to be up to what happens with the dnc, that's going to be up to voters, even new hampshire, iowa, or in the national polls, and we will see where they are. i do not know whether all of them will be able to reach that 10% mark or more or if they end up getting a delegate because they will have to get at least 15% of the vote in iowa to even get one delegate. >> right, yeah, and on that polling question, michael bloomberg is doing surprisingly well for somebody who hasn't been in the prose that long, 2020 democratic primary, the nbc news national poll. bloomberg is two points ahead of pete buttigieg but still up in the top five. if you look at national polls of black voters, and we'll put that up, he's even polling in the, you know, not that far down,

biden, sanders, then warren, then yang, then bloomberg, ahead of steyer, klobuchar. you talked to him about stop and frisk, black people, sort of the beef they had with him when he was mayor of new york city. how does he expect to deal with black voters if in fact he is somehow the nominee. >> as you know, i was one of those that fought him over stop and frisk, led marches and other rallies against him, and other groups, we definitely fought on that. he has said before he ended the race about a week before, he apologized for that. he regretted it, and i said it's going to take more than one speech to wipe out the effects of stop and frisk, which we still are dealing with. but at the same time we are going to raise the same issues of the crime bill with joe biden and bernie sanders voters, so i think all of the candidates are

going to have to deal with what they bring to the table and their background that can be questioned by black voters off of that matter. all voters and we're going to have to decide what we believe to be so or not, but i think that we can't give any of them a ride just because they're running but at the same time, when they're running against donald trump, a lot of us are saying at the end of the day, are you going to throw your weight behind whoever the nominee is, even if the voters and all of us may favor another nominee who may not have the same kinds of questions that we raise about their candidacy. >> yeah, and you know, i don't know if you're hearing the same thing because obviously with the national action network, you talk with a lot of people, black people, people of color, and i'm hearing, just anecdotally when i'm talking with people, surprising to me that a lot of black voters have said to me in the last several weeks, you know, i'm thinking about bloomberg because he's got the money, he's got the billions of

dollars, which is what you're going to need to beat donald trump and just to look at the money he's spending, a hundred billion dollar man, an actual billionaire, he's able to do emoluments, but $132.2 million on tv ad spending, $8.9 million on digital advertising, 3.2 million on polling, you go down the money he's spending, astronomical amounts of money. the total that he spent so far of $188 million, just in the fourth quarter, that's not even counting this month, his $188 million dwarves everyone else combined. you can see everyone else, 50, 34, 33, the former vice president of the united states has spent $23 million and this guy has spend $188 million. do you hear that back from people you talk with as an activist, talking to people that people are saying maybe it's the money that can beat trump. >> i think i've heard it a lot traveling around with national action network, i hear it a lot

because i do a daily radio talk show, and i get a lot of feedback, and you are hearing that, but i think that we also must realize money is one thing, the way donald trump is going to be defeated is if there is the galvanizing of voters to come out and if we fight voter suppression and we fight the gerrymandering but more importantly in a presidential race how they're purging voters, 300,000 voters purged in georgia, we're seeing the same attempts in north carolina and other places. the question is not who can buy the most ads, the question is how you drive out the most amount of people and protect their right to vote because if you get them out and they're purged from the rolls they can't vote, and i think we need to see much more focus on the fact that there is a concerted effort by the right wing to purge voters and to get them off the books to move voting sites like they did

in georgia, which i think cost stacey abrams from being the governor. we need to deal with those fundamentals. a people movement from the ground is needed but the people must have their right to vote protected so they can vote in november. >> and did, in your interview with michael bloomberg, did he indicate that that's something that he's willing to spend money or that he is spending money on? >> he says he's going to spend money regardless of whether he's the nominee, and a lot of it will have to be for voter protection, he's talked about that. we'll see what happens when we see who the nominee is, but that's what he said, and i think we ought to raise the same thing to steyer who's a billionaire, and to every other one that is running. at the end of the day, everything that we have fought for in the civil rights movement, even before i was involved, and i've been involved since i was a teenager, is at stake in november, and we've got to really play this hand that

has been dealt with us particularly by the u.s. senate now, like we know that blacks and latinos and women really have a real stake in what happens to the future of this country because donald trump has made no bones about he is going to support things that i think will reverse a lot of the things that have been won in the last half century. >> yeah, rev, do you miss being out on the campaign trail here in iowa when you were running? >> i was in iowa a couple weeks ago for the debate, and i miss being very cold, but i figured my little sister joy can have this one. i'll be back, though, not this time. you can snuggle up for me this weekend. >> you know, thanks to climate change, it's actually not that cold. so there you go. >> you can't breathe climate change in the era of mr. trump, come on, joy. >> you know science is just fake news, i know. i remember. reverend al sharpton, always

great to talk to you. thank you so much for your time. we can't wait to watch the interview. thank you, and tomorrow, on "politics nation" acclaimed film director spike lee will also join the reverend al. it's a hot show, you all, 5:00 p.m. eastern, right here on msnbc. more "p.m. joy" live from iowa next. joy" live from iowa next they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

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all right. we're back here at java joe's in beautiful des moines, iowa and i have been unleashed into the crowd. i want to find out who these lovely iowans like in the caucuses. who do you like? >> bernie sanders. >> elizabeth warren. >> okay. >> elizabeth warren. >> elizabeth warren. >> i won't say. i'm from kansas. but i'll vote for whoever. >> okay. a wharm cheese sandwich. >> amy klobuchar. >> joe biden. >> joe biden. >> anybody but trump. >> joe biden. >> pete buttigieg. >> pete buttigieg. >> it's 100 years for the women. it's time we have a woman president. >> who would you like that to be? >> elizabeth warren. >> we're going to back up and go into the crowd. >> joe biden. >> bennet. >> senator elizabeth warren. >> anybody but the orange thing. >> here we go. >> joe biden. >> joe biden. >> anybody but trump.

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people all over the country will benefit from the fight that she is bringing to this campaign. so i stand with her unequivocally. i think she has an excellent chance of winning the caucuses on monday. and i'm here in the state as well as thousands of other people knocking on doors, canvassing, making phone calls for elizabeth warren and we'll do the best we can to make sure she's there. >> welcome back to a special p.m. edition of "a.m. joy." we call it "p.m. joy." congresswoman deb holland along with several campaign surrogates are here blanketing the campaign trail in iowa this weekend,

stumping for their candidates ahead of the first in the nation iowa caucuses on monday. right now the latest poll shows former vice president joe biden and senator bernie sanders neck and neck for the lead with former mayor pete buttigieg, senator elizabeth warren and senator amy klobuchar rounding out the top five. over the past few weeks senator klobuchar of minnesota has also been gaining traction in the polls. but a new story out for the associated press this week may pose a problem, particularly as this race moves to more diverse states. the a.p. did a deep dive on a 2002 case that took place under klobuchar's watch as hennepin county's top prosecutor. the case which klobuchar has mentioned often on the campaign trail to show that she's tough on crime put a then 16-year-old myron burrell in jail for life. after a stray bullet killed a young girl during a shooting in minneapolis. but new evidence and witness statements are raising questions about the convicted teen's guilt and how the case was ultimately handled. in light of this new report the minneapolis naacp and black lives matter are calling on amy