you are? >> senator sanders is speaking right now. he's on stage behind me. this is a crowd of about 3,000 people here in cedar rapids iowa. i don't know if you can hear them now, but later today it will be vampire weekend performing here. it's a big concert, part of a concert series that senator sanders' campaign is doing. this is a organizational opportunity for senator sanders. his campaign is clear that they believe will come down to turnout. if they have more turnout than the 240,000 people that turned nought 2008, they believe that that means they will win. so, when you have big groups of people like this, they're here for vampire weekend but they're also checking in, signing in with the campaign. those are names the campaign will have on their list. when you have this as an organization organizational opportunity for them and they're trying to use that organization to get as many people out to caucus as they can come monday. especially considering that

senator sanders hasn't been in this state since six days ago. he's been in washington, d.c. on the impeachment trial. he's been facing a barrage of attacks, negative advertising, chris schism from secretary hillary clinton. depiet all that, they feel it's the ground organization that's going to win this for them. that's what they're trying to do here. >> when i was a young man like you on tv sometimes we would play games in which your friends would say if you say this word that would be cool. i thought you might have been doing that with vampire weekend. i googled it while you were saying it and it's a real thing. >> it's real. >> i thought someone said, dude, say vampire weekend on tv. i'm going to send you five bucks on venn mow. >> i would never do that. >> mike is with joe biden. the guy who maybe has the most to win or lose this weekend because he goes in along with bernie sanders as a presumed

front runner, someone who is going to gain possibly in later races, particularly in south carolina. but there's been a lot of focus on joe biden because of impeachment. >> absolutely, ali. shaq gets to be at a vampire weekend concert and i get to be in the national cattle congress pavilion expo. i guess that's how things work on the campaign trail sometimes. i want to take you inside though because joe biden just finished in the last half hour. you can see him not far from me working the line as he's likely to do for another 20 or 30 minutes after his event. and i want to describe what we were seeing here just a few minutes ago. two of joe biden's top iowa campaign advisers were hovering very close to the candidate. why? because when we were expecting to be talk about right now is the final des moines register poll that is expecting to be e are leased now. there were apparently issues with how they conducted the

poll. we may not be able to tell you the results of the poll. they were ready to tell the vice president what the results were. people like me were going to be ready to ask him about it. but the stakes for joe biden in iowa are high. that's why you've seen him over the last few days trying to manage expectations. he said i president exam to do well in iowa. i hope to win iowa. but these four early contests, you have to view them as a set and ultimately that the democratic nominee needs to appeal to every constituency. he obviously views him as that candidate. >> you are forgiven for being where you are because i think you were at the iowa state fair a few months ago, mike, and you did me a particular favor in buying a dessert. it's my favorite food in the whole world. wasn't it the iowa state fair you were at? >> that's right. >> go ahead. >> mr. vice president. >> worry about joe biden. don't worry about my food. >> i want to ask you about what we've seen in the last couple of

days. excuse me, congresswoman tlaib making comments and booing hillary clinton. what kind of tone does that said. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear. >> congresswoman tlaib was on tage and booed hillary clinton's name. i wanted to know if you have any reaction to that? >> i didn't know that happened. i don't think it's appropriate. >> are you worried about the party being united? >> no, because i think i'll unite it. >> sometimes you get the candidate on tv and take the chance. >> you have rocketed to the top of the rundown at the moment. mike with joe biden. an important question that you asked him because rashida tlaib on that stage not simply booing hillary clinton's name but almost sort of leading a bit of a chanted boo about her. that is definitely speaking to the issue that the democratic party is facing right now about the degree of division between

these candidates. so, we'll stay on that story as well. vaughn hillyard is in coralville with the buttigieg campaign. i don't know if you have this information yet, but what mike was just talking about, this vonted des moines register poll we were expecting to see a few minutes ago. there seems to be a problem with it and the problem seems to be associated with pete buttigieg and whether he appeared in all of the questions. i don't know how much of that information you already have and whether you have anymore more than what i know about that. >> reporter: i think we want to hold on and wait to hear from the des moines register and from the pollster. this is the gold standard poll that was expected to be released as mike noted just a few moments ago. this is the poll 48 hours before that has really been the metric point in which folks have looked to to get a reference. this caucus is really tough to get a hold on in terms of what turnout is going to look like.

not only are you dealing with the more metropolitan areas like here in greater iowa city area in des moines but also trying to get a metric off of what extent folks in the rural areas are going to show up and what does it look like for candidates that don't meet the viability tlesh eld ho. that's why it's really tough in iowa to get a good understanding of what the polling looks like. we should know in a little bit. pete buttigieg, we just left his fifth and final event. he's had more than 45 events over the last three weeks. while those senators were forced to be on capitol hill he was doing the work on the ground finishing up just down the in cedar rapids a little while ago. he's kicked it into gear in just the last three days calling out joe biden and bernie sanders by name, really trying to paint that generational contrast, that contrast that really leaves him, the 38-year-old former mayor alone when you're looking at the top four in the pack here in

iowa. this is just a little bit of what pete buttigieg left the folks in cedar rapids with. >> now, if you think about it, in the last half century, every time that my party has won the white house, certain things have been true about our candidate. it's been somebody who was new in national politics, somebody who was calling us to our higher values, and it's been somebody who is opening the door to a new generation of leadership. that's how we win when democrats run for president. >> reporter: he has two events tomorrow, ali, right here in coralville. we're just off the campus of university of iowa before he heads to des moines for a big 2:00 rally before the super bowl. pete buttigieg, ali, needs iowa. he has long said he could win the midwest come november against donald trump. this is his opportunity to win it within his own party, ali. >> vaughn, when i spoke to you 13 hours ago, you were in an empty ball room and now you appear to be in an empty park.

have you annoyed the bosses in some fashion? >> reporter: we actually had a pretty good day overall. >> in between the empty ball room and empty park, wild things are happening with vaughn. ali v, you are with the warren campaign. what's going on? >> reporter: we're at our fourth stop of the day and she's trying to soak up as much time with voters as she can. we know she's juggling being in d.c. and the campaign trail. and d.c. was winning most of her time. she's really trying to make the most of this weekend, so much so that the selfie line has been overtaken by her dog so warren can be jumping ahead to events in iowa. he's going to go into tomorrow and the lasting message at each of these events has been unifying the democratic party. you heard mike asking joe biden about it just now. you heard shaq brewster giving

the state of play on the sanders campaign. it seems all these candidates are trying to make the same pitch which is i am the best candidate to beat donald trump. elizabeth warren says she's the best to unite the party. she is making that case. when she was asked about the dust up on the sanders side with congresswoman tlaib booing hillary clinton, she said she hopes the party comes together. there's a reason she's making that unity argument. yes, it's good for democrats to come together on a general election. on the other hand it's strategy because a warren campaign aide tells me with had they look at people they've identified who want to caucus for elizabeth warren, of those people who caucused in 2016 it's a 50/50 split on if they supported bernie or hillary clinton in 2016. so, it doesn't work for the warren campaign strategy to alienate either side, to pick a side with bernie or a side with

hillary clinton. we've seen her try to stay above the fray. we've also seen her call out the factualism. i want to put you nay time machine to three or four weeks ago when bernie sanders and elizabeth warren had the dust up over bernie sanders going negative on her and her responding saying we don't need that in 2016. that's where the argument started to take root. we've seen her carry it through the last few weeks and now it's her final closing pitch in iowa from her surrogates and herself center stage right here on stages like the one behind me. >> ali, thank you for that. i want to go back to mike. let me go to vaughn hillyard about this. we're getting word that the "des moines register" -- let me read this. this is a statement. >> i'm with you. >> saying "the des moines register" will not be releasing the final installment of the poll. a respondent raised a question of how the interview was

conducted. we were unable to ascertain what happened and cannot determine if this was a single isolated incident. cnn, "the des moines register" aim to uphold the high standards of the survey research and therefore the partners decided not to proceed. give me some sense of what this means. >> reporter: this mean that is we won't have the final seltzer poll. any of these numbers you look at you've seen joe biden leading the poll. bernie sanders leading in recent polls. thats why this particular poll in iowa, as you just read the in that statement they don't know if it was one isolated incident in which a particular candidate's name was not read to the individual that was being surveyed. and, you know, i think this election more than any has been so much we've been calling this a punditry election.

we've been talking to voters, it's been a conversation over who do you think is the most elect able. who do you think is the most able to beat donald trump. is your candidate worth caucusing for if they're not viable? that's the difference if you're looking at a poll and seeing somebody at 13% versus 17%. suddenly you may be like hey it's worth showing up for pete buttigieg as opposed to another candidate. that's why folks are watching these polls. folks are watching msnbc. folks are reading the "register" and weighing their vote based on who they think has the best shot to beat donald trump. that's why especially in iowa that conversation over who is best equipped to beat donald trump next november, a place barack obama won but donald trump won by ten points. that's why in a crazy way polling is important because it is a factor playing into who folks are going to caucus for. >> the interesting part here is you've got the top three or four

candidates in most recent iowa polling within the margin of error which is usually around 4.5 percentage points. but no iowans are not decided yet and so many iowans may go into a caucus in which the candidate they support doesn't reach the 15% threshold and they have to realign with a particular candidate. this is particularly important for somebody like joe biden. there was a conversation as you were reporting between the biden campaign and the klobuchar campaign in which the biden folks were usuggesting to klobuchar or a deal where in a given caucus room -- and there are 1,700 of these caucus rooms -- your candidate doesn't reach the threshold, could your people come over to our side? what does not releasing this poll do to these candidates in that tight race to try and be at the top? >> well, at the risk of overstating thing, i don't think

we can underestimate how much of an impact not having this poll out could have on the result of the caucuses. this night when the final iowa poll is released is sort of a part of the ritual of iowa caucus week. tommy vietore, he was barack obama's iowa campaign communications director, press secretary in fact. i don't want to give him unnecessary promotion. and he has described the scene as they in 2008 were waiting for the result of that poll hitting refresh, refresh, refresh on their computers waiting to see. u ultimately that poll was the first to show barack obama ahead in the iowa caucuses. so, it was a real moment for them. and that can have an effect on how voters think about who they're going to caucus about. i was just talking to one of joe biden's top iowa advisers before the poll came out trying to gauge how they were going to react to it, how much stock they were going to put into the result. he said frankly i don't know how

you are poll iowa. i don't know how you account for the realignments. we talked about the fact that so much of the psyche of voters is around who they think can win. if a poll had come out tonight and showed joe biden with a five point lead or bernie sanders with a five point lead that might have the effect of a self-fulfilling prophecy, more bernie sanders supporters feeling like that's where they want to go. other second choice voters saying i want to back the winner ul ultimately. there is interesting in this race. it leaves us back where you were talking about. there were a lot of polls showing a tightly bunched race and we're down to the last 48 hours where the developments are going to carry the day. >> the realignment is when you go through the first round of the voting in a particular caucus room. some may have hundreds of people in them. i've been in some rooms where there are dozens and you don't get 15%. and everybody with a candidate who doesn't get 15% literally

moves to another group in the room. so, the second choice candidate, the not alienating people that you just talked about is way more important in iowa than it is in a lot of other places because that candidate that you alienate, their person might not come to you if they don't get 15%. >> warren is the second choice of most of the people in that poll. she regularly tops as the second choice. it's important to remember that it doesn't necessarily go based on the lanes we regularly talk about these candidates in. just because you support a progressive candidate as your first choice doesn't mean you wouldn't pick a moderate as your second choice. they think about it based on the person and holistically. i will touch on one thing that mike said and i wonder if he says this is an interesting development that shh poll doesn't come out. i wonder if for then campaigns who have been seeing themselves at the top of the polls, there's a sigh of relief here because it

means one less day that's focused on polling and one more day that's focused on whatever their closing message is. we tend to look at polls as they come out. obviously this is one, the gold standard of iowa as we all have said. but at the same time all of these candidates are trying to put a message on paper that's frankly aside from the polls, aside from the numbers we throw around here. i wonder if there are some campaigns breathing a sigh of relief they're going to be able to push through their messaging points and not deal with press and reporters asking what they can of the latest poll. >> ali is getting the prize tonight for moderating her voice. she's gone from golf, you know, commentator into normal voice and then your mic was off at the beginning of your last sentence. i thought she's actually reporting fully silently. shaq, quick question, whether it's elizabeth warren, bernie sanders, amy klobuchar, michael bennet, these are united states senators who have not finished their duties in the impeachment trial. the impeachment trial is going to resume on monday.

the bernie sanders could top things in iowa. this could be his big moment. what happens to these senators? do they go back to washington? >> it remains to be seen. in theory, yes, they should be going back to washington to sit on that senate impeachment trial but that's caucus night. what do you have every election night? you've done these many times before. you have the election night parties and celebrate a victory or explain why they lost. it's not clear what exactly is going to happen. i'll tell you the sanders campaign is saying that senator sanders will be back in iowa. he does have a private plane taking him back and forth. right after impeachment we saw that friday night. he flew right to iowa so he can go to those saturday morning events. it's saturday now, so this morning's events. so, it's not clear what's going to happen with those. if i can add one thing to the polling discussion, i spoke to a pollster a couple of days ago who was looking forward, looking ahead to this register poll and

there's an estimation there that in this last poll if the candidate is ahead, that can lead to about a 2 to 4 percentage boost for that candidate. the idea is as you heard from mike, ali, and vaughn, the idea people like selecting a winner. if a candidate is leading in that poll that could add extra boost. without that poll, the last polls we see and the latest samples we have are senator sanders leading in that polling. something i've noticed in covering senator sanders in the past couple of weeks first with surrogates and senator himself is he is bringing up these polls. he's mentioning the fact he's been leading iowa. michael moore brought up polls in callal ka, polls in nevada. so, this campaign has been looking at the polls, monitoring and sending that out to their supporters hoping it not only helps supporters on the ground but also helps fundraising because the better they do in the polls the more incentive that supporters have to give

them more money that fuels the campaign in the end. so, it's, the poll, i have to add the point that everyone else made, it is a big deal that it's not going to be released tonight. >> michael moore is going to be on my show tomorrow morning, 8:00 a.m. to 10:00 a.m. so, shaq if you can do a favor and ask him not to stay too late with the vampire thing going on tonight, get in bed so he can be on tv. >> he's going to be jamming out. >> i'm a little worried he's going to be jamming out. i'll have a very sleepy michael moore on my hands tomorrow. thank you road warriors. you're the ones who keep us on top of everything going on out there. shaquille, mike, vaughn, and ali. thanks very much. the senate trial of president trump is approaching final vote where proceedings stand after republicans shot down a chance at a hearing with a crucial witness, next. hearin a crucial witness, next. th the s first invisible trailer.

invisible trailer? and it's not the trailer right next to us? this guy? you don't believe me? hop in. good lookin' pickup, i will say that. oh wow. silverado offers an optional technology package with up to 15 different views - including one enhanced view that makes your trailer appear invisible. wow. - that's pretty sweet. - that's cool. oooohh! that's awesome. where'd the trailer go? i love it. it's magic. i love it. it's an easy way to earn it's cashback on the stuff

i'm already buying. when you have a child and they're constantly growing out of clothing, earning cashback from rakuten just makes everything easier. sometimes it's 3% sometimes it's 8% but you're always getting cashback. the way cashback works on rakuten is so they get a commission from the store and then they share that commission with me. and you have money, more money to spend because you got free money. go to rakuten.com and sign up today for a $10 bonus.

the impeachment trial of president donald trump is nearly over after more than two weeks of arguments and questions. last night the senate took a decision 51-49 to not allow witnesses. that means what we all this thought it was going to mean, the president is likely to be acquitted, not exonerated which is what he says he wants to be, but acquitted. closing arkments in the case will begin on monday for a chance for senators to make closing arguments on tuesday

with final vote expected on wednesday. hours after the senate shut down any chance of hearing witnesses and new evidence, the justice department revealed new information about president trump's ties to the halted security assistance,that $391 million congressionally approved money that was supposed to go to ukraine. in court filings released almost at midnight friday night. the justice department says it's got two dozen emails that have been withheld from congress related to president trump's involvement in freezing millions of dollars in military aid to ukraine. the filings describe email exchanges involving defense department officials and in some cases white house office of management and budget officials regarding the ukraine assistance freeze. i want to bring in our panel, malcolm nance, and msnbc legal correspondent, white house

correspondent, and msnbc political analyst, and white collar defense chairman scott bolton. welcome to all of you. let me start with you. let's get the news of this out here. the impeachment trial is all but over. they've decided they're not taking witnesses and documents. and wyet what we have seen over the last two week social security a drip, drip, drip of new information that most americans, 75% of americans in a new quinnipiac poll thought relevant for senators to hear. this looks like a document dump of new information that americans would have liked the senators to hear in making their decision. >> that's right. what we've seen over the last few days and weeks is the fact we know there's more information out there that senators could possibly want to see in order to make their final decision on whether or not to remove president trump. i mean, just the news about john bolton's manuscript being released the way it's being

released shows there's someone really interested in reminding john bolton has a lot of information. but republican senators made it very clear they think democrats should not get their way and they should not be able to call anymore witnesses or have anymore documents. what we're seeing is a crystallizing of the republican party saying we don't like what president trump does and senators off the record or background say i didn't like the way he handled himself on the call. but then on the record when it comes time to vote they're with the president 100%. part of that is they see the legacy of the republican party as tied to president trump. >> yeah. two republican senators decided to go the other way, susan collins and mitt romney. the bottom line here is not that there will be a lot of americans upset that donald trump is going to be acquitted. we always thought he would be acquitted. but the failure to conduct a trial as described by the constitution, as interpreted 15 other times when there were impeachment trials is what i

think a lot of people are worried about. so, the point of the future of the democratic party wrapped up with donald trump, there may be greater danger these senators chose not to hold a fair trial. >> yaerks and the reality is there are no rules. the senate rules of impeachment just give you procedural guidance. but there's no substantive law. so, there's a lot of complaints that perhaps the house managers screw this up by not getting law to guide future spreedings. but the reality is the acquittal was inevitable. so, what do we do with it thereon? you hear people like lamar alexander. he has weak soft statements that the conduct was inappropriate and the american public needs to decide. but the ultimate audience is the american public because you knew that the senate gops were never going to vote against him. but this drip drip drip you talk about is huge. it's not just the emails, the 24 emails which by the way also in

the doj's own filing included a discussion of the fact it had the president and vice president's communications. it wasn't just omb but you have lev parnas, igor from youmuman. and i'm waiting for the john bolton "say anything" moment where he stands up and says i've got something to say. >> i've invited him as many other journalists. the lines are open, john bolton. the lines are open. we will take you right now. malcolm will yield his time if john bolton comes on here to tell us what's going on. you have worked in the part of the government that deals with the money. and these emails, what we know because we know about some of it from the house m the, we knew emails existed because we know about something called the impoundment control act which says the president doesn't get to take money that the congress has decided it's going to appropriate for a particular purpose and use it for a different purpose. so, as soon as that phone call

went from the office of management and budget to the defense department, they put a hold on this money, all sorts of career people started saying i'm not sure if we're allowed to do this. there's some speculation, we don't know what's in the emails, but there's speculation it might be correspondence about is this legal? how do we make this legal? zb. the the house wants to exonerate itself, they would release the emails. at the end of the day, that's why you have all of these -- everybody who went and testified, everyone who said fiona hill and colonel vindman and the list of othem, what was the issue they had and the whistleblower as well. but john bolton too. i think that john bolton should share his story. i wish the senate had called on him to -- called for withins in general. but i don't think he would have been the silver bullet in the impeachment process because i

think his story would have fallen short of democrats expectations. >> malcolm, let's go back to this. this is the issue at the heart of the matter. congress approved aid to a strategic ally, ukraine, an ally. they're not a nato member but they're an ally involved in an actual war with russia who is in many ways our own adversary. you've written about this. >> right. >> congress did that. the president decided not do that. i think in all of the donald trump is not a guy who's not particularly honest discussion we have missed the fact there is a national security component and these emails may shed light on that. the office of management and budget which is a tool of the white house and the white house may have done something that compromised the national security of an ally and hence our national security. >> and you know there are republican senators saying today that they can't see where national security was compromised. they can't -- they don't understand precisely what the

situation was. president trump eventually released that money. the point is when we say the national security of the united states, it is not a specific point or specific star in the constellation. it is the universe in which the security of america exists. russia is a strategic near pure adversary, a poor one, one that's essentially a trailer park with atomic bombs as i like to say and gas station with atomic bombs. but as a strategic adversary, they have now leveraged the greatest tool or greatest strength as our greatest weakness and that's freedom of speech. they've learned disinformation now is far more powerful than atomic bombs in destroying the united states to the point where they have president of the united states using russian intelligence talking points as their way of -- >> the fact that ukraine

interfered in the u.s. election in 2018. >> yes, but it's an incredible form of asemetic information judo when russia attacks us, verify able. we literally have video of the guys logging into work going on the computers and sending this out. we know their social security numbers. and then they convince russia, an ex-kgb officer convinces the president of the united states that ukraine attacks us and here the entire republican party has gone communist lover to the point they will get russia off of the act of violence that they did against the constitution. >> unbelievable. unbelievable. >> scott, i have people asking me now all along the road there's been remedy for this, right? there was -- in theory there was the mueller report and then in theory there was this

impeachment. what remedy is there? it is not like we held a fair trial and this is over. every day there is more information that comes out. what remedy is now? a number of people are saying the remedy is the election. the fact is that's information the american people need in order to understand what this president has done so that when you're wondering about whether you should cast your ballot for elizabeth warren as president or bernie sanders as president you need to know what donald trump as president really did. >> yeah. i think there is a trial, another trial coming up, and that's the election. you're right. those documents, those witnesses, as adam schiff said, it's going to come out. it's going to come out through bolton's books wechlt have litigation going on in federal court where those document that is have been redacted, those 24 emails are going to come out eventually. and the american people -- but more important the democratic

party has to tell that story. it has to sell it and it's got to inform the public. the gop is going to make their case to their own voters. but the gop has said this was inappropriate but it wasn't impeachable. as much as we disagree on that, the reality is what we're left with is the election. we've got to go with that. the dems got to do a real good job of el issing it and the courts have got to run through their view of executive privilege and the tax returns still out there. this is all information that i would say to the gop senators who were in moderate districts or up for re-election, i would use it against them. i would use it against trump as all these documents ande witnesses come toward even though the gop and senate failed in their duty. >> you've been nodding feverishly on this one. >> yeah because i completely agree that what the democrats need to focus on is the he ex. they can't get distracted by anything else.

there are going to be plenty of drakss from now to november. in 2016 they rested on their laurels and didn't fight hard enough in swing states and didn't talk to those in the u.s. rust belt who are feeling neglected, right? and they need to make sure not to make that is many take. number two, they need this question of electability that the road warriors were talking earlier. that's a real issue. and the fact that you have to two leading contenders in iowa between somebody quite extreme to the left and a centrist i think is quite telling in general of what we're going to see for the primaries. i would worry that somebody too far to the left would end up isolating the center and the middle which could, you know, adversely affect the election. hard to know. >> stay with me. >> picking the right candidate is super important. we had a flawed candidate in 2016. in 2020 they've got to get it right and they've got to pick someone who can take on donald trump at the base level. this is not a political excellency if you will. this is someone who fights on

the ground, if you will. this is someone who plays the dozens. the democrats have got to get down and dirty, play the dozens with donald trump, and beat him at his own game. >> do you have an idea of who that is? >> i don't think my candidate made it out of the election. whoever the nominee is, we've got to make them stronger in that regard. it's not a sophisticated fight. this election is going to be a valued e ex will. the voters are going to be making a decision on their values. do thebl in donald trump's values or do they believe in american values that we stood on for 200 plus years? and that's the decision that they're going to have to make. my goal, our hope as a democrat is that america is better than donald trump and where the gop or the party of trump has taken itself and the voters have got to send a message loud and clear in that regard. i certainly hope they choose america over donald trump and his extremism. >> i'm with you, but some days, some days it makes me wonder.

thanks to all of you. stay with me please. still to come, one new case of coronavirus in boston. another patient in new york city being tested for the illness. what we know about the illness that has prompted a public health emergency. cy it's either the assurance of a 165-point certification process. or it isn't. it's either testing an array of advanced safety systems. or it isn't. it's either the peace of mind of a standard unlimited mileage warranty. or it isn't. for those who never settle, it's either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. or it isn't. the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. now through march 2nd. only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer.

break out the butter loif you've been dreaming aboutr tender wild-caught lobster, dig in to butter-poached, fire-roasted and shrimp & lobster linguini. see? dreams do come true. or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home, try lobster, sautéed with crab, jumbo shrimp and more, or maybe you'd like to experience the ultimate surf and the ultimate turf... with so many lobster dishes, there's something for every lobster fan so hurry in and let's lobsterfest. or get pick up or delivery at redlobster.com ♪[ siren ] & doug give me your hand! i can save you... lots of money with liberty mutual! we customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

another case of coronavirus has been confirmed in the united states. this time in boston. that brings the number of confirmed cases in the united states to 8. globally, close to 12,000 cases have been confirmed. worldwide, more than 250 people have died. as far as we know. as a precaution, the white house declared coronavirus a public health emergency. this morning i spoke with health policy analyst laurie garrett who says the number of cases and the growth of the virus should be cause for alarm. >> years ago, china was comparatively isolated compared to today. it didn't have this vast high speed network it has now. >> or direct flights to everywhere in the world from dh chinese cities most americans haven't heard of. >> even internally inside of

china it didn't have superhighways and didn't have a nation with cars. most chinese were still just making that first time getting a driver's license 17 years ago. and so try to lock down this virus by locking down the people is proving impossible. and the mayor of wuhan tells us that 3 million wuhanese had left the city before the lockdown. >> wow. >> so, it's already been -- the horses are out of the barn as the metaphor goes. >> we're going to turn now to other legal woahs president trump. the supreme court has set a date for oral arguments over access to the president's financial records. the three cases against president trump will be heard march 31st. the dispute involves separate efforts by democrats and new york prosecutors get hold of a decade's worth of financial documents. back with me is my panel. katie, i want to talk to you about this. you made a point earlier that

maybe the house didn't do enough in the impeachment by not going to court. >> such as the argument. >> except evidence with been trying to get these documents for three years. >> which made the argument from the trump defense team so disingenuous to say you didn't have enough already, why didn't you bring it forward. we've been trying. all the way back to the mueller inhavest interrogation. and that's another case pending if had terms of disposition. we're going have to a ruling from the supreme court in june. that's just a few months before november. and if that happens, i have a firm believer that skoe tus is not going to be able to avoid releasing these records and it's going to show more emoluments clause violations and we're going to have more ammunition to go to the polls in november and give more talking points to the dems to say why donald trump is worthless. >> let me ask you about this. how many times have we heard a conversation like this in which

there will be more evidence and it will have this outcome? one wonders -- and i wonder from your perch where you get to see these things -- given everything we've heard, given everything we heard in impeachment about the phone calls president makes, lev parnas, the stuff in john bolton's book, about the emails we're seeing, freedom of information motions that we get and more information gets released, do you think the release of president trump's tax returns make any difference to anybody who is now dug in in the trump camp? >> it doesn't seem that way unless there's some big revelation that shows that he's clearly profiting off the presidency in a way that is completely unimaginable to his base i don't think there's going to be a big difference because the people have already decided who they think president trump is. if you're a democrat, you think he's crooked. you think he's someone who is a threat to national security. if you're a republican, you think he's someone who's been targeted by democrats and he's

someone who's had a problem with really not having the best language but not someone who is impeachable and someone who can do another four years in the white house. i think in october 2019 mick mulvaney really described the thesis of this trump administration as well as the trump 2020 campaign when he said get over it. >> get over it. >> yeah, my reporting based on talking to senators and talking to legal sources on the president's legal team, the thing that swayed senators to say i don't want to have witnesses, i don't want to have documents, it was alan dershowitz argument that there could be mixed motives, that president trump no matter if you can look at it fanciinancially foreign security standpoint. he can be doing things in his interests but that could also be in the national interest. he said that senators and republicans understand that because senators do it all the time themselves meaning that you might take a vote for a bill because you know your

constituents will like it but you also think it's going to help the country. that's what it is. mick mulvaney said get over it and that's the republican talking points from here to november and it might work. >> we are living in the greatest period of disinformation in the history of man kind. just in the last three years, 40% of this nation will not believe a thing that is broadcast in the media whether it's true or not. it could affect -- until it actually affects their life, they will not believe us. and that means you could come up with anything. you could come up and find that doech bank was funded by oligarchs and they will not believe it. the media has journalistic constraints that cannot allow them to opine on this.

and they rely on that. i saw an rnc tweet yesterday that said there were 18 witnesses before the senate. there were zero. they lied knowing that their 40% constituency will do anything -- they will not go against them. and as long as we allow 40% to leave the other 60% of the united states by a nose ring and not care about what the other americans feel, they will get away with whatever they want. and that is where we fundamentally are in a tyranny as thomas jefferson defined it. >> i have designed the wrap around for the trump bus 2020. trump 2020, get over it. with republicans shutting down any chance of hearing from witnesses, what options remain for democrats? we'll talk about that on the other side. t on the other side when you shop for your home at wayfair,

you get more than free shipping. you get everything you need for your home at a great price, the way it works best for you,

i'll take that. wait honey, no. when you want it. you get a delivery experience you can always count on. you get your perfect find at a price to match, on your own schedule. you get fast and free shipping on the things that make your home feel like you. that's what you get when you've got wayfair. so shop now! president trump has survived the mueller investigation. he's now on his way to shedding the cloud of impeachment emerging from the lengthy trial more emboldened than ever as he hits the campaign trial. do democrats have any other options to constrain a president that they have argued is subverted the law and the constitution? i'm back with my panel. tuesday night, the president is not going to have been acquitted yet probably by the senate.

that'll probably happen on wednesday. might delay until thursday. but he's going to be at the state of the union. one wonders what he's going to talk about. but this president in campaign mode talks about how he presided over and contributed to the greatest economy in the history of the earth and maybe the galaxy. he talks about all these fantastic things much of which are misrepresentation of the truth but he is going to go down that road and take a victory lap. that's the easy answer. the dangerous part is that the day after robert mueller testified about his report, donald trump called the president of ukraine and started something else. what does an unconstrained president trump look like? >> you might have been writing part of the speech because that sounds like exactly what he's going to say. i think what we can understand if ambassador bolton's manuscript is to be believed the president has an interest in authoritarian leaders and he might be interested in getting

personal favors from them or doing personal favors for them in exchange for information. i was on the white house lawn when the president said not only did i want ukraine to look into the bidens and china. i remember reporters looking around like did we just hear him right. we could see president trump saying any country having information on joe biden, give me a call. we could expect that the next few months. >> he's going to do himself in. he can't help himself. you know he feels like he's got this acquittal so he's going to use the state of the union to say not only did i do ukraine. i asked china. i asked russia. i asked everybody. he thinks he's out of this. the reality is there's a theodore roosevelt quote, if i must choose between righteousness and peace, i choose righteousness. that's what needs to be happen on wednesday. if it doesn't happen on wednesday it needs to happen in november. the peace the gop is seeking is

not to get an angry tweet from donald trump. you have no value add to the united states. so, i think that the dems need to take all the ammunition they're going to get from lev parnas, igor fruman, even rudy giuliani, take all that and channel it into a talking point and have value for them in the polls in november. >> you hit the nail on the head. for me working national security, the issue with ukraine, the reason why this issue matters so much to me and in general i think to the american people is because of the national security risk it poses to us. now that the president has put himself up for grabs by saying now you can have russia, china coming in saying i can dig up information for you on the bidens or i can spread disinformation for you but give me intelligence exchange, give me this in exchange. it puts us at risk for blackmail and it's really unfortunate. >> this is a really important point because there are a lot of people who think the worse part

of this was trading information for political purposes. it's bad. the other side is way worse. the endangering the country because we are making strategic decisions or setting aside decisions with our allies for political interests endangers us all. >> we're regarding an ex-kgb officer and his country. ukrainian soldiers died during that period of time they didn't get those weapons systems from the united states. to katie's point, donald trump on wednesday will give permission to the world to attack the united states. he will say -- and not just anyone who has information. no, no, no, no, no. imagine north korea's bureau 221, their intelligence agency that hacked sony now hacking everybody. or directly attacking the states on election day and donald trump gets a false victory but he says

no, no, no, that's legitimate. i will not relinquish power. in an enormous number of horrible scenarios that u.s. cyber command, dhs, the fbi could all not even possibly have imagined three years ago, now you have the president of the united states giving a go order to maybe saudi arabia. maybe iran will do something because america is now a target and there are no defenses. there's not even -- you don't even have to use a trojan horse. walk through the front gate and destroy the constitution of the united states. donald trump will help you. >> all right. we've all been scared big time. >> you're welcome. >> big thank you to my panel. thank you to all of you for being with me on this saturday night to make sense of so many things that are happening tonight. coming up inspe the next hour, democratic candidates are spread out across iowa making their last minute pushes with only two days until the state caucus

votes. we're going to look at the changing landscape of the 2020 presidential race. landscape of0 presidential race. he's the one. gesundheit. [sneezes] you have a birthmark in the shape of texas. you think it looks more like arkansas. how did you know that? i see something else... a star... with three points. you're in a... mercedes. yeah, we wish. wish granted. with four models starting under 37 thousand, there could be a mercedes-benz in your very near future. i appreciate what makes each person unique. that's why i like liberty mutual. they get that no two people are alike and customize your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. almost done. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪

quitting smoking is freaking hard.st, like quitting every monday hard. quitting feels so big. so, try making it smaller. and you'll be surprised at how easily starting small... ...can lead to something big. start stopping with nicorette oh no, here comes gthe neighbor probably to brag about how amazing his xfinity customer service is. i'm mike, i'm so busy. good thing xfinity has two-hour appointment windows. they have night and weekend appointments too. he's here. bill? karolyn? nope! no, just a couple of rocks. download the my account app to manage your appointments making today's xfinity customer service