i'll see you right back here 10:00 p.m. eastern for "the last word." and kwe"deadline white house" begins right now. >> it's 4:00 in new york as all eyes turn to the state of nebraska where voters are looking for a candidate to rise lini like a phoenix from the ashes of the chaotic iowa caucuses, as well as president trump's most divisive turn on the presidential stage. and they'll make their final choice busine choices before heading to the polls on tuesday. it's pete buttigieg who's seen the biggest post-iowa bounce in his poll numbers there. mayor pete in a virtual tie with bernie sanders in the front of the pack in new hampshire after

jumping eight points since the day the iowa caucuses where he stands 1/10th of -- and mayor pete thanking iowa for what he claims is his victory, while bernie sanders looks to move on to new hampshire. as amy walter, the cook political report, warns any pundit and prognosticators admit this the most unkconventional primary candidates we've seen in year president that means we need stop trying to make it fit into a traditional box. in manchester, ahead of next week's primary, amy walter, we're so happy to have you. plus, making news of his own today on twite twitter, jason johnson is back. rev al sharpton is back on msnbc

and president of the national action network and editor at large of the opinion site, charley sykes is back. it's such a plegs andasure and t to have you. take me on the ground to what you're hearing from voters there. >> it's nice and rainy and miserable here in new hampshire. you've been through this before. and it didn't keep people from standing in line yesterday for a buttigieg event where we couldn't even get in. the fire marshal shut it down. and folks in line there were interested in kicking the tires of pete buttigieg. the iowa thing is still a mess and year still going back and forth about who the real, quote on quote, winner was. but new hampshire voters don't need wait on iowa to certify the results. they pretty much get what

happened there. bernie and buttigieg were the big winners. and while there's talk about amy klobuchar, elizabeth warren is not as much a topic of discussion as she was not long ago when there was talk she was going to sweep both iowa and new hampshire and go right on to new hampshire. >> you know, i take your warning about political predictions seriously. but there is something that those of us who have been crossing paths in iowa and new hampshire and south carolina all these places for years notice. and it's the timing of the peek. it would appear the timing of his peek appeal may coincide with iowa and new hampshire in a way that gives him new life in south carolina. the timing of warren's peek may hurt her in the same contests. i want your thoughts on that and a two-part question. it's my sense that if buttigieg had a clear victory in iowa, and

that had been known at 10:00 p.m. that would have been as big a political bombshell as senator -- then senator obama's victory in iowa many years earlier. do you agree with thalt? >> okay. maybe i'll start with that one. i do think it's still hit -- if not a bombshell, it had a big impact up here. people are talking about pete buttigieg in a way they probably weren't the week before the caucuses. in fact in iowa in the last couple of days, the real talk was about maybe warren sneaking into second place and maybe bernie sanders, elizabeth warren and somewhere in the mix joe biden and pete buttigieg. the fact is he did well closing the deal in and around the suburbs. the places where democrats won the house in 2018.

new hampshire, as you well know is, much of it, southern new hampshire, is basically a big suburb of excerpt of boston. these are the kind of voters who love a candidate who fits the profile of pete buttigieg. but it still doesn't answer nagging questions about whether he can perform well outside of these places. and we haven't had any polling out of nevada. so, we don't know if he got a bump in a state like that or south carolina from his success in new hampshire. the other thing that's interesting is a number of voters i talked to who raised the name of mike bloomberg without any provocation, one voter i was talking to standing in line in the pouring rain and sleet said i'm here because i think what folks are recognizing up here is there's a bernie lane and a not bernie lane. and he says i want someone in the not bernie lane. i can't decide who it is.

maybe mayor, maybe mayor pete, maybe mike bloomberg. the name biden really didn't come up. a lot of folks talking about his age and poor performance. so, biden's poor performance has had as big an impact on voters in new hampshire as buttigieg's success. >> you're so good. i think you answered one and two. next time i'm going to put you on camera. you said more with your expressions. >> this is kind of what i had been hitting about earlier, nicolle. i have been hearing people talk about mike bloomberg. if you go from martin luther king holiday all the way through black history month, i have friends and colleagues and sources, they're doing black history month programs and talking to people in memphis and florida and texas.

and the story that i'm hearing and it's not just from older people is if joe biden falls, stumbles, black voters are desperate to get donald trump out of office. that is the number one driving force and many of them are saying i will support mike bloomberg eve withn with the gentrification and i don't think mayor pete or bernie sanders have managed to convince anybody that they can win a general election. and if you can't carry the african-american base, you can't carry this election. >> i think i'm hearing everywhere i go and on my very radio show surprisingly people bringing up michael bloomberg without it even being the discussion. i was one that helped lead the antistop and frisk move. so it's not like they're telling me something i think i would agree with. and he, being bloomberg,

immensely helped himself going towards south carolina after next tuesday. with the obama ads, he has an ad out that has barack obama praising his leadership on fighting guns. so, he's running an important campaign, but also something i think helped him was the debacle in iowa made people say well, this guy at least is a democrat and will get stuff to work and operate right. it inadvertently helped him. he wasn't in the race and people say his company could have run the caucus better in iowa. i think you've got to watch him because we're starting to hear that in places we shouldn't. and you've got to watch buttigieg. if people just go back to 2016, bernie sanders flew to new york and had breakfast with me in harlem the day after he won new hampshire. if he had, by any count, a 10th of 1% ahead of hillary, he would

not be saying what he's saying today. so, give buttigieg credit. he's ending up with 93 one thautd he was going to end up because the polls were saying elizabeth warren is surging and that did not happen no matter what the final tally is. >> i want to get you on the record. but jason johnson is not here by accident. it was this tweet that caught my attention this morning that i frantically made sure you were available to be part of this conversation today. there are whole conversations among black journalists, activists, analysts behind the scenes about 2020 politics that will never see the light of day because mainstream media isn't ready for it. you are in a safe space, my friend. and the floor is yours. the mainstream media is handing you the mic, my friend. >> it starts with something like mike bloomberg.

the level of fear and anxiety for black voters who realize they're at the core of the party, i don't think it's focussed on enough, i don't think there are enough looking a at the honest stories out there. if you go down to some blue haired old lady's house in south carolina and you're a white reporter, she may talk to you, pat you on the head. she's not going to be as honest with you as the rev or other african-american journalists. that's just the truth when we were talking about stories and how people responded to sexism issues around kamala harris. i think if we're missing the stories and the reporters who can tell the stories, we're not really finding out what's going on with the democratic party. look, everybody knows that mike bloomberg is problematic. and everybody knows senator harris suffered in part because people said kamala is a cop and didn't like her criminal justice record.

but the desperation of the black voter is they will go for someone with a bad criminal justice record if they think he can beat donald trump. and i don't think the democratic party has demonstrated or understands how much the base needs to get this guy out. and i think the people who can tell those stories need to be centered a lot more because as we're having high minded conversations about medicare for l that's not hitting with regular people. they want to feel safe and they're not seeing that with the people running right now. >> i could talk with you about this for the next hour and half. it feels like time for a race addressed to the nation 2.0 from any democratic candidate and the message is everybody wants to see dignity restored to the white house.

everybody wants to have a chief executive who honors and respects the government he serves and believe. but no one faces the kind of threats from president who sees good people on both sides of charlottesville, who's caging brown children, not white children, at the boarder and whose policies and whose stated views are overtly racist in many, many areas. i don't know who that candidate is. do you? >> i don't see that candidate right now. and that's what's so frightening. they're hearing stories and hearing people give lip service. you saw seven different people leave the warren campaign. we heard complaints about the mayor pete campaign. we've had numerous issues like that with the sanders campaign. someone yesterday said look, i just saw what happened in iowa. if they can't protect white people's votes, what are they going to do for me in georgia?

you have black voters around the country who don't think their votes are safe and they know they're going it be targeted by the republicans in this administration. i think the number of people expressing these concerns over and over again, there's not one campaign addressing them on a regular basis. the issue is not who is going it win the black vote. it's turnout. will you get the 65% turnout among black women? will you get the 14% of african-american men who voted for donald trump last time? will you be able to touch those people? because if you can't, i am telling you -- i was at a basketball court and a barber shop and hearing guys say, look, i caught that part. donald trump seems to be doing something about criminal justice. he's been freeing a couple of people. we heard what kim kardashian did. i don't think the democratic party realizes how serious these issues are and we need have

people out screaming on the television every day, this is an emergency, it has to be addressed and the people with prominent voices have to be part of the discussion. >> they're all here. rev. >> i think this is critical. what we tried to say in' 16. if you look at the fact hillary clinton lost michigan by 13,000 votes. i know three churches that could have given her that and they never went there. one thing you've got to remember, super bowl biggest ad of the year -- >> that was the kardashian -- >> he put this black woman on the super bowl ad that i thank donald trump. and who on the democratic side has come out that way? the democrats, i know they call themselves progressive, progressive on everything but race, they need stop talking to people, rather than for people in the black community. >> let me show you what donald trump said about black voters

today. >> i remember i said what -- 25,000 people. i said what do you have and these people went crazy and i went off the stage and i said it's true. it's true. what do they have to lose? right? they didn't like it. that's why they're all looking for jobs. >> the trump campaign has made a calculation. they feel like this is the place where they can grow the vote and making the outreach to voters or at the very least think he's not so bad, not such a big difference than him and the democrats. and people around the president feel like last time around and blame partly on hillary clinton's lack of outreach, that they were able to keep the african-american vote home. they didn't come out like they

did for barack obama both times. and certainly on the democratic side -- i mean mike bloomberg is trying to lean in and fill these voids with the idea of someone stop and frisk on a dime. we have him -- and i think that's a calculation, jason's right. will they put up with anybody but donald trump? because bloomberg, as though he's instep with democrats on certain issues, he's way out of step. and you well know, he not only endorsed george w. bush in 2004, he turned over the city to him for the republican national convention for him in madison square garden. i think there were democrats not quite comfortable with decisions he made. but he has the money where the ads are everywhere and he's able to rectify his record. >> my understanding of -- and the most reliable part of the

african-american vote is older african-american women. they vote would the lowest frequency for donald trump. so you could posit they had his number betpter. i mean, they are voters that take in a lot of information and sort of accept and understand people change. >> it seems if the joe biden campaign is imploding, and we don't know if it is. i think there's still a belief he will win south carolina but he may do so by a much smaller margin than people anticipated. and potentially facing real fund raising issues between now and super tuesday. if minority voters, black and latino -- bernie sanders is doing better than that but hasn't really caught on. but where do they go? >> i'm going to step back and

put this in context. this was the week that i think democrats felt they were cracking up and that they were panicking. i think there was a sense -- well, the whole week. republicans and democrats -- was this the week donald trump won re-election? and then are we going to go with bernie sanders? are we going to face a jeremy corbin-like wipeout? which then leads to the looking around for any alternative. look, pete buttigieg ought to be the headline story because what he did in iowa is incredible. if he wins in iowa and new hampshire, that is really a historic moment. i'm not sure whether our conversation is -- and i don't want to put jason on the spot. was jason suggesting african-americans might not vote for an overtly gay candidate? >> hang on, hang on.

>> that's not what i said. let me make this clear. i was literally on a text group with a bunch of seasoned citizens last night from nashville. and a woman literally texted me and said look, i think pete's a nice young man but that's it. he doesn't look like a grown up going against donald trump. that's her fear. on the scale of things african-american voters are concerned of, it's the issue with police, and firing the cop. i will say one woman literally said is what i fear is if he is our nominee, every commercial will be his wedding photos and that will get angry, bigoted people upset. it's not a problem with mayor pete being gay. they fear the bigotry of the majority of white voters and since african-american voteers have to filter through what they think white people may tolerate, that's where the concerns come from. >> and what i walk picking up on was the sense of urgency and i

sense a real sense of urgency that may have replaced a sense of complacency before. they thought we can propose medicare for l nominate a self-described socialist because anyone is going to beat donald trump. and this week, not just with the iowa screw up but with the events of last couple of days. >> let's say it. the acquittal. approval rating. >> donald trump's ability to entertain and exhaust was front and center. we have spent the lasts three years talking about how outrages and reckless and cruel and crass he is. but here he is with his ratings rising and the democratic party in disray. the republican unity was on display. what i'm sensing is a real focus. there could be panic and maybe this is the time. maybe they're right.

this is the time to hit the panic button. what you're seeing is are we serious about this? there may be strategic voters to block bernie sanders in new hampshire but might be open to somebody else down the line, someone like mike bloomberg, >> let's remember we're in 2020, not 1920. black voters just elected an open lesbian with a white partner in chicago, who got a huge margin. so, yeah, there's some homophobia in the black community and in the white community, but black voters showed, in chicago, in the last few months that they'll vote for someone gay with a partner. i think what buttigieg and anyone else has to do is really speak to black people's interests and everyone else's interests and be real. because trump is frightening to us. >> to a lot of people.

amy walter, thank you for joining us today, my friend. i hope this is the first of many, many visits. coming up breaking news. colonel alexander vindman says he was escourted off the white house grounds after president trump said he would seek revenge. also ahead a man who thinks donald trump is failing the commander in chief test throws his weight behind mike bloomberg. the twist? he's donald trump's former secretary of the navy who left an after trump started messing with the military endorsement system. and we'll explain coming up. . - [spokeswoman] meet the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the best of pressure cooking and air frying now in one pot, and with tendercrisp technology, you can cook foods that are crispy on the outside and juicy on the inside. the ninja foodi pressure cooker, the pressure cooker that crisps.

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breaking news we're following. just in the last hour colonel alexander vindman, whose brave testimony added so much to our understanding of the infamous phone call was escourtrted frome white house complex. the purple heart recipient has reportedly told his superiors he planned to leave his post on the national security council staff at the end of the month anyway. in other words trump saying you can't quit, you're fired. vindman seemed to see this coming. he talk said about potential blowback for his testimony when he testified in november. >> you realize when you came forward out of sense of duty that you were putting yourself in direct opposition to the most

powerful person in the world? you realize that, sir? >> i knew i was assuming a lot of risk. >> and i'm struck by the phrase, do not worry, in the letter you addressed to your dad. why do you have confidence? >> because this is america. this is the country i've served and defended, that all my brugtarbrug brothers have served and here right matters. >> thank you, sir. i yield back. >> that was an extraordinary moment, of course, back in the hearings. it was very powerful that he spoke to his father and the soviet-era block. he felt he could speak freely here because he wouldn't suffer the same repercussions he would in his native country. lieutenant colonel vindman has only spoken once, after a subpoena by the united states

congress. this is part of what the president is doing, a bit of a vengeance tour. >> a bit? >> he held his tongue in the state of the union. the acquittal the next day and sense then the gloves came off. he delivered the rambling 16-plus minute speech where he thank republicans for standing up for him and started settling scores. mitt romney, of course and targeted nancy pelosi, who he also went after in the national prayer breakfast, which left to gasps in the room. this is going it continue. they're going to see themselves out of a job soon or moved to a different post. he feels the republican party has lashed at him as never before. they have a very good week. the president wants this behind him. and in particular, as a final note, vindman irked him the

most, in terms of those who testified. >> the whole wounded soldier thing. >> the patriotism -- questioning the president's patriotism. >> makes sense. james comey, who was also target of some of the most vicious smears from whatever you call it yesterday just posted this in an op-ed. we pass through the legal and constitutional trials of the trump era. they were painful. now we face the most difficult trial, because it's about us alone. will they assert a personal core value in the face of a powerfully human temptation to surrender them or are they still smile faces smiling tightly? we'll know in nine months. >> we know now. spoiler alert. it is a vengeance. you said the president doesn't want to put it behind him but he won't let it go.

so, you're going to see these kinds of attacks. the fact he would have had vindman kicked out of the white house and escorted out today. whatever you think is coming for romney, it's going to be worse. but how far will he tyake it? what will he do with the department of justice? >> we know what steve mnuchin will do and now is as good a time as any. so, there's news that broke yesterday that donald trump's allies in the senate, senators ron johnson and senator chuck grassley asked the treasury department for financial, sensitive and very secretive financial records about hunter biden's financial dealings without a subpoena. treasury department offered them over. this is someone who was investigated and justice was

adjudicated in ukraine and someone that now donald trump's allies in the senate are investigating with the help of the executive branch. >> and not only are republicans not standing up to him, which we've been talking about for years, they would become active accomplices. >> i think that's the point. what will they do? >> i don't know if there's any levels here. this was is always the most dangerous moment of the impeachment, which is what does a president who has no checks on him do? what does a on the donald trump do that he had no one around him that tells him to be decent, responsible or coherent. what if donald trump, who believes article two gives him the power to do what he likes, what does that mean to be emboldened with the power over the entire criminal justice system there, national security system. because right now you know he's ticking through who gets payback.

who needs to be taken out too, use his term. this could be one of the story lines. he thinks he got away with it and thinks he will in the future. >> i think there is that moment that he survived the impeachment. he feels like there's nothing much they can do to me now. he's not going to let it go and use it as a rallying cry for this election. >> but what we must remember? you say what's he going to do next with the justice department? william barr announced candidates have to get his permission if they're going to investigate opponents. you have to get his permission, which is clearly designed that you can't investigate the president. >> clearly. >> my client. unless you get my permission. we're looking at president and i've said on this show before, having dealt with him for three

decades, that thinks like a mobster. who stands up and call as former fbi direct arsleez bag? i mean who stands up and -- lis noon language. and once i fired him, they all started ratting on each other. what president -- >> nothing like flippers. >> i mean rats. rats is street talk. and we're sitting back like this is normal behavior. questioning people whether or not they really prayed at a prayer breakfast in fronted of ministers and people are sitting there. there's no rules that he won't break and let's not forget it was the day after he felt exonerated in the mueller report when he made the call to ukraine. so stay tuned for the next day or two because the moment he feels he has all power, he comes out with the real donald trump and that is not pretty. after the break mike bloomberg gets an endorsement today. bloomberg gets an endorsement today. with time, comes change

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democracies around the world are under throat. threat. in this time of instability, america should be a global conveneer. a leader a global leader. he is the candidate the united states needs, ladies and gentlemen. a president who can bring the country together a president who appreciates the strengths of our allies and partners a president who respects opinions, who respects diversity. a president who understands the value of our men and women in service. i do believe mike can get it done. >> all right. so, here's the man bites dog part of the story. that was donald trump's former secretary of state and he's trying to deprive his former boss a second term. he's the first former trump

appointee to come out in support of -- and after his exit, spencer raised concerns not only about trump as president but as commander in chief. >> i don't think he really understands the full definition of a war fighter. it's a profession of arms and a profession of arms has standards they have to hold themselves to. what do i stand for? order and discipline of the united states navy. this, in fact, erodes that. >> wow. joining our conversation, senior washington correspondent for "politico." i have to ask you though, charley psychos. military endorsements are so rare because most people like to stay out of the fray. they served. but this is someone who left under -- you talk about what will trump do? trump will medal in the once walled-off agencies like the

pentagon, the nsa, cia as other extensions of his power. and this is someone who left over that. >> there are two things i think is interesting. this goes right at his strength, which is donald trump loves being the commander and chief and surrounding himself with the trapings of the military. so, someone goes right add the brand. but secondly, the issue that he left over, this donald trump's hardening of a war criminal, his endorsement of the wanton cruelty and his overriding of the good order and the honor of the military. it's like donald trump doesn't really understand what the value s of the military are. it depends how michael bloomberg manages to weapon size it. i think if you focus on those two things, the people in the military are breaking with donald trump and reminding about donald trump's soft spot for war crimes.

it could make a little bit of a difference. >> and you know a lot about political coalitions, how the winning ones are put together and how people who come up short fail to energize pockets of it. he did very well are -- and they could deprive him of what was a very narrow victory three or four years ago? >> clearly mike bloomberg is looking at the data and knows he needs carve off some of the votes. we're talking to pete buttigieg and say, yes, the closing arguments in nevada, south carolina for pete buttigieg is his military experience. this is an area that the president might be weak on this. he loves the trapings of the pomp and circumstance of military but he's been at odds, at times, over his first term with some of his military advisors.

this is one of the issues democrats try to play on. >> jason, since you and i have been going there all hour on what the democratic candidates for president might do again, just to strengthen their hand t would seem a full frontal contrast on trump as commander in chief where you take these pardons of accused war criminals, the abuse of power. he didn't just seek to have the leader of ukraine investigate biden, he was depriving them of weapons to defend themselves against russia. it seems you can put together a strong case as donald trump as commander in chief is a scary thing. >> 40% of the women in the army are african-american. 40% of the women in the army are african-american. so, your success with flipping the military and getting veterans and active soldiers to say your campaign is the best way to go, actually starlts wit

african-american women. i think the idea of donald trump basically giving a pass to someone who committed war crimes whose own fellow soldiers say he committed war crimes is indicative of his character. the way to democrats to weaponize this is the cruelty he wants to promote abroad is the cruelty he will engage in to people here, whether it's criminal justice, health care, the boarder, that's the focus. and it has to start with the base of the democratic party. >> we're going to keep this conversation going. and how the rest of the field. and how the rest of the field. ♪ limu emu & doug

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but he is spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to buy the election. there is something wrong with that. as a candidate, let him run. how do we feel about living in a so-called democracy when a billionaire, multibillionaire,

55 billion, gets spent on unlimited sums of money. >> everyone's back. >> senator sanders make as point that's going to resonate with a lot of democrats. we talk about problems with money and politics. >> let's just say a lot of people feel that way about billionaires. and i think we're back where we keep coming back to, which, it is the urgent feeling. >> and i think that as bloomberg seems to be on the verge of having a moment. he's picking up steam, picking up in the polls. if you were to make a case for mike bloomberg, democrats appear to be in a -- bernie sanders rising on the left. biden fading and questions about buttigieg's experience and so on. might have multiple winners in the first four states and now he's a player. as that happens there's going to

be more scrutiny of him and perhaps that will turn off a lot of people, the fact he's seemingly going to buy an election. that idea verses what we were talking about earlier. are there enough democrats which anybody like trump and therefore i'm willing to hold my nose with something i would normally having a problem with. someone spending hundreds of millions on an election. >> i'm never bernie but sanders is right about this. the fact we have thisso oligarc. and we want to get rid of trump, let's go with the guy we know can go toe to toe with him. this may be the year they're willing to overlook this.

we do not wauchnt to be a democy dominated by millionaires and billionaires and i say that as a conservative. >> is it possible we're making clay models out of a pile of clay that hasn't started to form yelt? is it possible that other than saying buttigieg is someone the not bernie voter might take a look at, might elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar be part of the conversation if they do well in new hampshire? or joe biden or anywhere else? >> i think momentum is everything in politics. really screw pete buttigieg in a way. normally there's only two tickets out of iowa and that builds the momentum in terms of nevada and south carolina. the question, i think, is about money and do people care about whether it's his money or he's fund raising it. the issue for elizabeth warren

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commercials today they remind me of the opening ad of tim pawlenty. they look like "die hard." if you have a president who's a cartoon president, puts together talk shows and turn the state of the union into an experience like oprah or a game show, then this is an effective method. the challenge that's for mike bloomberg, it requires that joe biden falls apart is, once it is not about television and making personal connections with people, can he continue to build momentum? it's one thing to be a charming tv personality but to connect with people day in and day out and feel like they want you in the television screens and phones for four to eight years. >> it feels like the tin man. they want the heart and empathy of joe biden. bernie sanders' principle.

liz warren's -- >> i think that's accurate. i don't think you get that in one person so i think what they're gong to have to do is find the way to really get the message of how dangerous it is for this president to be re-elected. and they got to deal with a message more than i think -- you're absolutely right that people don't want do see a billionaire buy an election but when i'm guy on the ground living from paycheck to paycheck and telling me one minute i don't like the billionaire and raised $25 million, millions, billions, i'm trying to get to friday's paycheck. let's talk about how you make my life better. you're talking about the heads of the people you need to come out and vote in milwaukee an detroit that didn't come out last time. >> what do you think about the on the ground reality for the democrats? and i agree with you, there are only two tickets out of iowa. what does that make you think

today? >> how do they connect and it's retail politics. we haven't seen mike bloomberg do that. can he do that? is he able to really connect? or, are we in a post-era where donald trump doesn't connect with necessarily hand shakes, doesn't like to -- work the rope line or do things like that. maybe voters don't care. that's what we are testing in this race because right now it's a lot of television, what's happening in the ads and getting people's name out there and maybe less of the town hall end up of getting you one or two or three voters in new hampshire. >> we have to get the last break in. >> lie, lie, lie. lie, lie, lie. unfair. lie, lie. if you've been dreaming about tender wild-caught lobster, dig in to butter-poached, fire-roasted and shrimp & lobster linguini. see? dreams do come true. or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home,

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just to button up, i think bloomberg will be tested with events and the debate stage for the first time and donald trump may not be effective retail

politician but connects with the voters in the rallies. >> bloomberg with two main goals, to defeat donald trump and to block the nomination of bernie sanders which i think he rightfully sees as a disaster and see how it plays out over several weeks. >> could be pete. mayor pete. >> could be pete. >> my nanthanks. thank you so much for watching today and all week long. "mpt daily" with chuck todd with brand new poll numbers starts right now. ♪ nicole don't lie! yes, we do. welcome to friday. it is "meet the press daily." good evening. i'm chuck todd. we got brand new numbers. hot off the presses. polling through last night from the nbc news