i think some sort of lightness has to come out from all of his darkness. i'm craig melvin. >> and i'm natalie morales. >> and this is "dateline.." >> you have the good cop, the bad cop and the polygraph. it felt like law anz order. >> the fire broke out before dawn. in the daylight they found this mother of two young children dead. >> she lived a very courageous life. she was very bold in the things she did. >> but after the smoke cleared, a mystery lingered. >> we knew she did not die in that fire. she died before the fire. >> who do you look for as a suspect. >> obviously the spouse is the first person you look to.

>> but he passed a lie detector test. eventually the case grew cold until this witness came forward with a tale of love and lust gone wrong. >> but could she be believed. >> i think i slept with around half the town. >> was it justice or revenge. >> was it a perfect world? no. does she get hers, yes. >> how can he miss it? he wasn't there. hello and welcome to "dateline." paul and katherine novak wanted to escape the hustle and bus ofl the big city. they found peace and quiet when they moved into what catherine dubbed the big red house, but soon a roaring fire would ravage

the couple's home and when the flames subsided, one of them would be dead, leaving investigators wondering if the blaze was a tragic accident or something more sinister. here's andrea canning with "secrets and lies." on a frigid december morning in 2008 in a tiny picturesque town of delaware a tragedy unfolded. >> 911, what's your emergency. >> the whole house is on fire. >> a deadly blaze burned a small country house to the ground and left behind in the ashes were secrets, love gone wrong, illicit affairs, friends turning against each other. it would take years to unravel the mystery of that fire haunting this town, and those who loved the couple who once lived in that house, paul and catherine novak. the novaks had both grown up as city kids.

paul was a new york city paramedic, a job that seemed the perfect fit. >> i wanted to be that person that would show up and help my parents, help my sister if she was in a car accident or something like that. >> but he also saw the dark life of city life too close to home. >> i'm would see shootings two blocks from my home and i thought i could never raise a child in that area. >> so in 2002 paul and catherine went house hunting. they didn't need to look for long. >> you know, it was the big red house as she called it. >> catherine's brother michael and sister-in-law joann said she worked hard to make the big red house a home. >> growing up we lived in apartments. you know, this was a space of her own. >> she was thrilled to have five acres or ten acres of property and she loved it there. >> the perfect place for the perfectly matched couple. they seemed meant for each other

right from the start. >> i liked her from the first moment i met her. she was very effervescent, very funny, very opinionated, and i really liked that in her. >> so you really saw into the future when you saw her. >> yes. we ended up getting married, i think, seven months later. >> two years after that, their first child natalie was born. >> it was very special. >> catherine's mom, christina, was ever the proud grandmother. >> natalie looks so much like her mom, so much like her mom. >> what was it like the first time you laid eyes on your new daughter natalie, well, it was like falling in love a thousand times more than you have with any other person. natalie, you know, she's a part of me. >> four years later along came nicholas. >> she was in her glory, to have a boy and a girl, which was good. >> things were all coming together. >> yep. >> she got directly engaged the community, in the church.

she taught sunday school. she became a girl scout leader, the school board. she became many, many things. >> and she did all of it by herself. pauls with still working in new york city, more than 100 miles away. >> this is a big commitment. >> it was a two-hour drive. i was working in the city and living up here. that was a big sacrifice. >> that they learned can be tough on a marriage. >> we went to counseling for about a year. she felt she never got a break from being a full-time mom. >> but they were both committed to making their marriage work. on their tenth anniversary, valentine's day, paul surprised catherine with a ceremony to renew their vows. >> i'm not a church-going type, so for me to do that was a big thing. i planned a couple of day getaway and she was really surprised by that and things were good after that.

>> it wasn't enough. the glow of that getaway faded and life became routine again. soon paul's eyes wandered to a much younger woman, someone from work. they had an affair and paul moved out leaving catherine and the kids alone in the house. >> she was beside herself. she was absolutely hysterical. >> catherine's good friend and neighbor sue muller remembered when the marriage ended. >> she couldn't even catch her breath she was sonning so hard. >> but catherine's family, who considered her the eternal optimist watched her move on with her life, pouring all of hur love and attention in her children. >> she was very focused them, very engaged with her life, did everything with them. >> sounds like that's what was important in her life anyway. >> absolutely. >> she had been working at her children's school and had been on a few dates. catherine was creating a life without paul. then in 2008 sometime during the

early morning hours somewhere in her house a fire started. >> the house is totally on fire. it's on fire. >> when the firefighters arrived, the big red house was a wall of flames. they had no idea if anyone was still inside. >> does anyone live there? >> yes, yes. there are kids. >> do you know if they're out of the house. >> i don't know. >> neighbors knew paul wasn't there. he was living in an apartment three hours away with his girlfriend. that morning he gout a call from catherine's pastor. >> i picked up the phone and she goes where are the kids, where are the kids. i go they're with me what's going on. she said the house is on fire. >> the house was on fire. when sue muller arrived with friends, the fire was still raging. she stood vigil for hours waiting to hear news from the firemen. >> all of a sudden they were looking down in the basement and

the funeral home was there with the body bag and i saw them bring the body bag down in the basement. >> in the destruction of the basement of what has been the piece of house, firefighters found the remains of the family dog and to their horror, the body of 41-year-old catherine novak. >> oh, no, oh, no, it can't be, and i think it takes a while to grasp it, that it's forever. >> what did you think when you heard that news. >> i was just a blank, a complete blank. what on earth am i going to tell these children? how am i going to tell them? she was a great mom. i didn't know how i was've about going to fill that void. >> the autopsy report says she was killed when debris fell on top of her. her death was ruled accidental. >> she lived a very courageous

life. she new what she wanted and went after it. >> a tragic life to tend that held so much promise, but as you probably guessed, the story department end there. for investigators, it was just the beginning. not everyone believed this was an accident. >> if it was not an accident, was it murder? it certainly did not look that way until a second autopsy report came back. coming up -- we knew she did not die in that fire. she died before the fire. >> when "dateline" continues. e >> when "dateline" continues

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the remains of that old country house were still smouldering as the investigators dug through debris looking for clues. they wanted to know what caused the fire and exactly how catherine novak died there. her mother's question was more simple. >> the big thing for me was why department she get out? that was what kept going over in my mind. why didn't she get out. >> even her estranged husband paul was puzzled. >> i didn't know what to think about it. i had been surrounded by death and violence all my life and now it hits home. >> investigators weren't so sure.

they turned to steve to take a closer look. >> you were contacted. >> yes. we had a fire and we had a death. the question of how the two of those items were going to come together would not play out for a couple of days later and actually years later. >> the police, as they often do, begin by interviewing catherine's soon-to-be ex-husband paul novak. >> what happened in the interview as far as the way they treated you, the questions they asked you? >> they were nice. they just asked me about cathy's last whereabouts, if i knew of any boyfriends she had, utilities in the house, things like that. >> the interview was all very routine but the investigation at the scene was not. fire investigators could not figure out what ignited the blaze. they checked the wiring, the appliances, the pallet stove, the propane tanks, nothing conclusive. but then things changed. the d.a. brought in a

specialist, a forensic pathologist to do a second autopsy a few days later, and the result this time told a different story. >> we knew she did not die in that fire. she died before the fire. >> the second pathologist discovered there was no carbon monoxide in catherine's blood or soot in her lungs, which meant catherine had stopped breathing before the fire started. she changed the manner of death from accidental to pending investigation. >> the question is what else can we gain or learn before we can start to classify this as a homicide. >> who do you look to as the suspect? >> the state police had done some initial interviews. obviously the spouse is the first person you look to. the spouse had a new al buy. >> paul and his new girlfriend michelle lafrance said they were far from the house when the fire broke u out. a three-hour away in an apartment. still, the investigators didn't

take the come's word for it. they made a request. >> they go, we want to take a polygraph test. >> did you feel like you were on a tv show. >> yes. . it felt like "law & order" a really babb even snead what happened. >> he said, okay, you passed. >> paul's sister alona had never heard him emotional. >> he was crying. he said, they asked me if i had killed her. he found it so unbelievable he was asked these questions. >> so if it wasn't paul, investigators needed to look for other suspects. >> the state police did a complete canvass of the area, anybody who had any connection to catherine novak the state police reviewed, found, interviewed. >> but after many months and no leads, investigators hit a dead end. the case turned cold. none of that mattered much to catherine's mom.

>> i still miss my daughter the same. i miss her no matter what happened to her, i miss her. >> seven months after catherine's death paul and his girlfriend packed up the kids and their apartment on long island and moved a thousand miles south to florida. >> i figured with my experience it would probably be pretty easy for me to get a job somewhere. >> a fresh start? >> a fresh start. i thought it wows be great for the kid. great school. nice neighborhood. >> but he said not long after their move things with michelle started to sour. when they first met, she was a paramedic in training. she was a teacher, her friend. she had confided with him about her depression and abuse. >> she was very jealous of natalie and her mental issues definitely became more apparent

as time went on. at one point she actually threatened to commit suicide inside my own house. >> this was no surprise to alona and her mom who loved catherine but never approved of michelle? fwhoo what are your first impressions of michelle? >> we didn't like her? >> why? >> she walked into my mother's house, immediately wanted catherine's pictures, turned around because she felt like catherine was looking at her. >> paul said it took him a bit longer than his family to realize he and michelle were not the best match. they had been together for three years when he found out she was cheating on him with a married man. >> he didn't want to stand for that, so he had to ask her to leave. he did it very nicely, and she didn't want to go. >> in what paul described as a bitter breakup, he forced michelle to move out and told her it was over. by that time it had been more than two years since catherine's

death. investigators in new york had moved on to other cases. the years were ticking by with no new leads, but the d.a. was a patient man. >> we never put the file away. it was always a matter of when something is going to come forward, we'll be ready to go forward. we never accepted an accidental cause of death ever. >> his patience would be rewarded. a break in this cool case was coming, and it would surprise everyone. coming up -- a surprise knock at paul novak's door. >> there were two police detectives outside and they want to talk about your car being involved in a hit-and-run. >> is that what they really wanted when "dateline" continues. y wanted when "dateline" continues. what's this?

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>> reporter: years had passed since catherine novak's body had been discovered among the blackened ruins of her big red house. but the passage of time didn't make it any easier for her mother. >> it's the thing that never happens to you, it always happens to someone else. it doesn't happen to you. you don't lose a child like that, in such a horrible way, a fire. >> reporter: catherine's brother michael and his wife, joanne, had stopped asking questions, choosing instead to accept they might never know what really happened to her. >> to take catherine's

perspective, she would look for the positive side, the good things, and she would want us to move on. and, you know, that's what we tried to do. we made our peace with it, and we went on living. >> reporter: but as time went by in the little town of narrowsburg, dark suspicions were whispered from neighbor to neighbor, and one name kept coming up. catherine's estranged husband, paul novak. her close friend, sue muller. >> i was angry as time went on, and i thought more and more about it and i thought that paul might somehow be involved. >> reporter: as she looked back, she was particularly haunted by the way paul acted the day of catherine's memorial service. >> the whole congregation were sobbing so loud. i mean, the pastor couldn't even finish her sermon. and i went up to him, and i hugged him. i kind of was struck by how he really showed no emotion. after 11 years of marriage that

she might have meant a little bit more to him, that he might shed a tear. but i didn't see any. >> reporter: but there was no evidence that paul had anything to do with catherine's death. no dna or fingerprints at the crime scene. no witnesses. he had even passed a polygraph test. and he had an alibi for the morning of the fire. he was three hours away with his girlfriend michelle in their apartment on long island. paul continued to enjoy his new life in florida with his two children. working again as a paramedic and now dating a new woman he'd fallen for quickly on match.com, kat del grasso. >> we started texting, and then we made a date, and we went on a date. really that was it. >> it was instant? >> instant. instant. >> what was the attraction? >> i don't know. it's really hard to put your finger on something like that. we just seemed to have an immediate connection. there was zero stress talking. no uncomfortableness. >> reporter: their romance

blossomed, and she eventually moved in with paul and his kids. >> do they look up to him? >> they worship him. they completely worship him. he's always up with them, checking homework. we do a lot of things as a family. >> is it a nice life? >> mm-hmm. we were really happy. really, really happy. >> and then you get a knock at the door. >> yep. yeah. that was a tough day. >> reporter: it was an early morning in september 2012, four years after catherine's death. >> i was asleep. i just got off of work. i worked 12 hours at the hospital. and i remember my girlfriend comes in and she goes, there's something fishy going on outside. there's two police detectives outside, and they want to talk to you about your car being involved in a hit-and-run. >> reporter: but when he arrived at the police station, he saw a

familiar face and realized this had nothing to do with a car accident. >> this is investigator kelly from new york. so i'm like, okay. so he sits down, he grabs a chair and he's like a foot away from me. and then i remember him. he's the guy that grilled me, the one that got in my face. >> how are you feeling? oh, my gosh. these people are back in my life, four years later. >> at that point i still didn't know what they wanted from me. i knew this guy was yelling at me, and then i just looked at him, and i said, "i would like to speak to a lawyer." >> reporter: paul had already been interviewed by police several times. he thought this was all behind him. >> you knew it had to be about catherine. >> well, yeah, obviously it had to do something with that. >> reporter: later that day the police went back to paul's house. >> and i went outside in the driveway with them, and they said, "we're sorry to have to break this to you, but paul novak's under arrest." and i said, "for what?" and they said, "it's for involvement in his wife's murder four years ago." >> reporter: what cat and paul didn't know was that a witness had come forward telling police an evil tale. and in that story paul was the villain. they arrested you --

>> right there. >> reporter: did they put you in jail right there then? >> yes. >> reporter: the story the witness told was chilling, revealing dark secrets. but was it true? coming up -- paul's alibi becomes his accuser. >> he was going to chloroform her and leave her and then burn the house down around her. and she was going to die in the fire. >> when "dateline" continues. >> when "dateline" continues oh, wow. you're doing, uh, you're doing really great with the twirling. dad, if you want to talk, i have a break at 3:00. okay, okay. i'm going. i'm gone. like -- like i wasn't here. [ horn honks ] keep -- keep doing it, buddy. switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. you know, like the sign says. switch to progressive and you can save hundreds. did you know that febreze air effects uses 100% natural propellant? cheaper aerosols use artificial propellants.

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hello. i'm dara brown. here's what's happening. a 6-year-old has died in wuhan, china, after being infected with the coronavirus. there are over1 thousand cases reported. and the ntsb released their first findings of the helicopter crash that killed kobe broonlt, his daughter gianna, and seven others. the report says there was no report of engine fatier. their celebration of life will

be celebrated later this month. now back to "dateline." welcome back to "dateline." i'm craig melvin. after his wife's mysterious death, paul moved on and had a girlfriend. then came the knock on the door and detectives placed paul under arrest. soon they would say someone claim they'd had disturbing details about the night of the fire. paul's world was about to turn upside down. once again here's andrea canning with secrets & lies. >> reporter: catherine novak's death had been a cold case for more than three years when out of nowhere a witness came forward, pointing a finger at catherine's estranged husband paul. so who was this mystery witness? a woman from paul's past. his ex-girlfriend michelle.

>> michelle la france, who was the defendant's alibi in 2008, has now come forward and said paul was not home and that paul went to narrowsburg and that paul killed catherine. >> what was that phone call like? >> it was now time to get to work. >> reporter: jim farrell was now the district attorney. he teamed up with the former d.a., steve lungen. >> didn't it feel good you had a break? >> it's a break. but, again, i needed more information. >> reporter: investigators sat la france down to hear her story. >> let's start back in the beginning. >> okay. >> reporter: during a six-hour interview, michelle laid out what she claimed was the true story of how paul killed catherine. she said he started plotting weeks before the murder. >> he was researching things on the internet. he was going to chloroform her and leave her and then burn the house down around her and she was going to die in the fire. >> reporter: michelle says one

week before the fire she and paul went to catherine's house to move his things out and paul unlocked the basement doors. >> so that he can go up the next time we had the kids, which would be a week later, and that way he can sneak into the house and she wouldn't know. >> reporter: according to michelle, paul wasn't with her on the night of the murder. that al buy was a lie. instead, she said he was with a fellow paramedic named scott sherwood, who drove paul to narrowsburg. >> as far as i know, scott was left in the car, and paul walked down to the house. >> reporter: michelle said paul told her he went inside, set off the basement smoke alarm, hid behind the stairs, and when catherine came down to investigate he tried to knock her out with chloroform. >> this was supposed to be quick and painless, and, you know, she was supposed to be passed out before she knew what happened. but i guess he put it over her mouth and it didn't work.

she was screaming and begging him for her life. >> reporter: through her tears, michelle spilled out gruesome details of what paul said were catherine's final words. she begged him to think of their children. >> and he told me that the only thing he said to her the entire time that he was fighting with her was "i'm doing this for the kids." and he said that she had been wearing a hooded sweatshirt and that he finally just took the sweatshirt and wrapped it around her neck and held it until she stopped breathing. >> reporter: then michelle claims paul took a blow torch from the garage and set the kitchen curtains on fire. >> he waited for it to catch fire. and i don't think he ever told me how long he sat the-- i don't think he ever told me exactly how long he sat there and waited and watched. >> reporter: michelle's story was a stunning betrayal of her former boyfriend, and if it was true, paul had committed a vicious and calculated crime. michelle said paul told her he did it because catherine was a monster.

>> he had me convinced that catherine was the bad guy and he was the good parent and these kids were abused and these kids were miserable. and we need to save the kids. >> paul's sister ilona didn't believe a word of it. from the moment she heard a witness had come forward, she was convinced her brother was being set up. >> i said this is michelle. you got rid of her. and now what happened? >> this is payback? >> i believe that's what it is. >> reporter: paul's girlfriend kat who got engaged to him in jail also believed michelle's story was suspicious. >> he's innocent. absolutely, positively. >> why are you so sure? >> he's just not that kind of a person. he's a caretaker. you know, it's like, his job as a paramedic defined him. >> reporter: and while paul had a squeaky clean record, michelle, his accuser, had issues. a history of depression and alcohol abuse. and she'd waited years to come forward.

>> michelle la france has been described as a scorned ex-girlfriend, a woman looking for revenge. did all that go through your mind? >> no. i don't believe that it did because after she leaves paul in january, february of 2011, it's 14 months before she gets up the courage to come forward to the police to tell the police what she knows, fully expecting that she's going to be arrested. >> do i need a lawyer? >> reporter: as paul waited for his trial to start, he told us he wasn't worried. >> there's really nothing that puts you at that crime. >> no. >> there's no eyewitnesses. do you think that's going to work in your favor? >> i think it's going to go rather well for me. >> coming up -- the prosecution is feeling confident too. did someone leave digital tracks? >> state police immediately did a search for the toll records of that vehicle, and we had a hit at 6:39. >> but what, if anything, does

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>> reporter: as paul novak prepared to stand trial for the murder of his wife, he insisted he was innocent. are you the evil murderer that some people think you are? >> no. not at all.

>> any reason to kill your wife? >> no. no. absolutely not. i mean, when i left catherine, i probably wasn't in love with her anymore. but i respected her, and she was -- she's the mother of my children. >> reporter: for catherine's brother michael, the upcoming trial felt like opening an old wound. >> part of me wished i didn't get that phone call because i knew how traumatic it would be to the family and especially how traumatic it would be to natalie and nicholas. >> reporter: catherine's mom also knew a trial would mean more heartache for her grandchildren. >> i know no one can imagine how i feel losing my child. i can't imagine how they feel now with the loss of both parents in essence. >> all rise. come to order. the criminal court is now in session. >> reporter: on august 12th, 2013, the trial of paul novak began at the sullivan county courthouse. the district attorney opened the case. >> the evidence will show that as catherine begged and fought for her life, the defendant

ended her life, murdering her in the basement of her own home. >> reporter: prosecutors set out to prove that paul orchestrated this murder down to the last detail. >> he was planning this for a period of weeks and maybe more in his own mind, of how to rid himself of catherine. >> he's a murderer. he's a sociopath. he planned. he executed. and he killed catherine novak in cold blood. >> reporter: their star witness was paul's ex-lover, michelle la france. the jury heard every minute of those police interrogation tapes of michelle describing the details of how he killed his wife. >> he told me that they were fighting and that they were rolling around on the basement stairs -- floor for like 45 minutes and that's why he was so late. and that she was screaming and begging him for her life. >> reporter: and the jury didn't have to just take her word for it.

prosecutors called scott sherwood, paul's partner from work, to the stand. they told the jury he had been interrogated by police and showed them the tape. >> let's go from the beginning. paul. you meet paul where? >> i met paul at his house in glen cove. >> reporter: jurors heard him tell police his version of what happened the night of the murder. >> so he gets in your red blazer. who's driving, you or him? >> i was driving. we were driving up toward where his residence was, where catherine still lived. >> reporter: sherwood said paul told him to park about a mile away from catherine's house and wait in the car. >> about how long is he gone from the car? >> over an hour. >> and what does he say when he gets in the car? he said "it's done." he had said that the chloroform didn't work, "i had to strangle her," and something about hitting the gas line to ignite. >> so you knew the house was on fire? >> yes.

>> reporter: as scott sherwood's story played in the courtroom, the prosecutors pointed out how remarkably similar it was to michelle la france's. >> did he say where he strangled her? where in the house. >> in the basement. >> reporter: prosecutors felt these matching stories were powerful but didn't think they would be enough to get a conviction. they wanted physical evidence to prove michelle and scott were telling the truth. they began with sherwood's account of the drive up to narrowsburg. sherwood had told investigators paul asked him to stop at a walmart. >> when you get into the middletown area, you said you stopped where? >> at a walmart. >> and he went inside? >> he went inside. >> you waited outside? >> waited outside. >> and then he came out with a bag? >> yes. >> do you know what he bought? >> i believe duct tape. >> reporter: prosecutors showed jurors what investigators found when they visited that walmart. >> the state police found a receipt. only one receipt out of 30 registers that had three things

on it, duct tape, a hat, and gloves. scott sherwood tells us that the defendant used tape to tape up his scrubs, he had a hat, and he had gloves on when he went and came back from the house. >> reporter: and there was more physical evidence to back up sherwood's account. he told police he and paul crossed the george washington bridge on their way back to paul's place the morning of the murder. >> was it a toll you guys went through? >> i would assume so. we went through i guess it was the lower level, but there was no booth -- there was no attendant. >> reporter: no attendant saw them pass, but detectives wondered, could digital eyes help place the car at the toll booth? >> state police immediately did a search for the e-zpass records or toll records on that vehicle, and we had a hit at 6:39 of that vehicle coming across the george washington bridge lower level. >> that's huge.

>> it's huge. >> it was a highly corroborative piece of evidence to corroborate scott sherwood. >> reporter: what's more, there was a photo snapped of the license plate. it was evidence that almost didn't exist. prosecutors said paul had planned to pay cash that night, but construction at the toll booth forced him to drive through the ez pass lane. >> he made some mistakes. and he couldn't have anticipated the bridge was going to be under construction with no toll takers. >> reporter: and then prosecutors presented what they thought would remove any smudge of doubt from their case. a third person who linked paul to the murder. elyse hanlon, scott sherwood's wife. on the stand she recalled a conversation with paul where he told her that he committed the murder and that he did it alone. >> scott had nothing to do with it. there's no way scott's getting into trouble. scott had nothing to do with it. >> and he told her i went up there with him, he drove, i went in, i did everything. >> three people in three different rooms, telling us the same thing. you may not be able to say we have a fingerprint or we have dna, but that's pretty damning evidence. >> reporter: the last piece the prosecution needed was motive. why would paul want to kill his

wife catherine. simple, they said. money. when catherine died, paul cashed in on her life insurance policy and homeowner's insurance. it all totaled around $700,000. >> the defendant said he would kill catherine and burn up the evidence, and he did just that. >> reporter: now it was the defense's turn to attack. jurors would hear more about the checkered pasts of the witnesses at the very heart of the case. coming up -- >> and what a very checkered past some of those witnesses had. >> i think i slept with half the town. >> when "dateline" continued. h e town. >> when "dateline" continued the real honey you love... plus the powerful cough relief you need. mind if i root through your trash? robitussin honey. because it's never just a cough.

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. >> reporter: it was the defense's turn. paul novack would not take the stand to proclaim his innocence. >> it's my decision not to testify. >> reporter: instead his defense attorney gary greenwald did the talking. his argument, don't believe everything you hear. consider the source, consider the mental states of the key witnesses, consider their possible motives. he started by attacking paul's ex-girlfriend, michelle la france. the woman paul had thrown out of

his house. >> she was lying, she was manipulating. >> reporter: the defense tried to portray her as unstable, offering everything from suicide. >> i had to be handcuffed to a tree topless. i have bruises from fighting the tree. >> reporter: the defense attacked her credibility and used her own words to portray her as a liar who carried on a string of affairs with married men. >> i was sleeping around. i think i slept with half the town. >> she was probably one of the most promi most. >> reporter: scott suffered from serious mental health issues. >> scott sherwood from the time he was 8 years old was treated for major psychiatric problems, and one of the crucial pieces of evidence was his psychologist who testified that when he was

put into a conflict situation would say whatever was necessary to get out. >> reporter: people are going to have a hard time wrapping their head around why three separate people would all lie. >> the reality is i take elise out of the picture because she lied to support her husband scott had a psychiatric problem and he was manipulated, in my opinion, by michelle. michelle was a woman scorned. >> reporter: and the defense argued their stories were tainted because michelle had been given full immunity when she agreed to testify against paul, and sherwood made a plea deal for a reduced charge and a sentence of 3 to 12 years in prison. next the defense went after the evidence that seemed to support sherwood's story, specifically the photo of sherwood's license photo taken the morning of the murder. the easy pass record shows scott sherwood's suv crossing the bridge at the right time for

this crime. >> the answer to that is very simple. it proves nothing. there's no picture of the license plate, there's no picture of who's in the vehicle. who do you know as we're not sitting here right now that scott sherwood or michelle were not this that vehicle. the answer is you don't. >> reporter: is it just a coincidence that someone went into walmart around 1:30 in the morning the morning of catherine's death and bought a hat, gloves and duct tape, all the things that were supposed used in her murder. >> okay. first of all, mr. sherwood admitted under oath to me that he got to middletown at 12:00. he never could have been there at 1:30 or so because he was out by 12:15. >> reporter: still, there was an age-old motive, money to explain away, and in her interview, paul himself had an answer for that. have you having any financial issues at this point? >> at that point i was in a much

better financial situation than i had been previously because i had ended up getting a second job at new york hospital in queens which was very high paying. >> reporter: and then greenwald called what he said was his most crucial witness, paul's landlord, the defense wanted to use hin to undermine a key part of the case. after the murder he and paul drove him to paul's house. >> do you go straight to paul's house in glen cove when you come wac. >> yes. >> reporter: paul's landlord disputed that, said he had been outside setting up for a photo shoot early in the morning, didn't lie eyes on either of them. >> how could the man be out there and never sees scott sherwood or paul? there's only one way. it didn't happen. >> reporter: the landlord's testimony was proof the lawyer argued that scott sherwood had made up his story. the defense closed its case claiming the prosecution had not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that paul was a killer.

>> paul novak is not guilty and we ask you to find that. >> reporter: after seven weeks, the jury finally began to deliberate. going into the trial, paul was certain they would find him not guilty. your life's on the line. >> my life is on the line. i think the truth will come out in the end, and hopefully those 12 people will know the true story. >> reporter: his fiance cat told us before the verdict she will stick by him no matter what. >> i believe in him. >> reporter: have you thought about your wedding and where it will be, when it will happen? >> i actually already bought my dress. >> reporter: cat's future and so many others would be determined by what the jury decided. for catherine's family, the waiting was the hardest part. >> i truthfully did not know what it was going to be, no matter which way you went with

it, it was emotional. >> reporter: almost five years after catherine novak's murder, so many secrets, lies and betrayals had been revealed, so many questions raised, would the jury believe paul's exlover and his expartner, was paul a ruthless killer or had he been set up. it took the jury two full days of deliberations, on the third day they had made a decision. the verdict was in. >> how did do you find in the case of new york versus paul novak as to count one, murder in the first-degree. >> guilty. >> guilty of murder in the first degree, paul had a slight head shake, convicted of charges against him, including insurance fraud, arson. paulfuls sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole, plus 20 to 60 years, but michelle who knew about the murder plan from the beginning

walked away a free woman. >> a lot of people will be angry and think this woman knew about a murder that was going to happen and didn't do anything. >> is it a perfect world? no. will she get hers? yes. when she dies. >> as for cat del grasso. she continued to stand by paul, and the couple married in 2018. the future for the children will be decided by the people who lev them most, paul and catherine's family. >> we will work to get for those kids what catherine wanted for them. >> reporter: up in narrowsburg where catherine novak's beloved house stood, the trees turn gold, a mother mourns the daughter she lost but remembers the life she lived sg. >> reporter: what do you miss most about her? >> her smile and her hugs.

she was a lot of fun, catherine. she enjoyed life a lot. >> that's all for this edition of "dateline," i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. vin. thank you for watching first up on msnbc, pay back time, president trump fires two key impeachment witnesses. new reaction and who might be next ahead. there's a real threat that donald trump can get reelected. >> the way we defeat donald trump and everybody up here by the way, is united. >> the politics of the past, i think we are not all that bad. >> we have a newcomer in the white house and look where it got us. >> donald trump is not the cause of all of our problems. when i'm president, we're going to measure the performance of our economy not by the dow jones. >> it's time to come up new plans to make that happen. >> theoo