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ask. shop. discover. at your local xfinity store today. tone continuing on the trail today. the biden campaign launched this fresh attack against pete buttigieg questioning the former south bend may why are's experience. take a listen. >> when president obama called on him, joe biden helped lead the passage of the affordable care act to give health care to 20 million people. buttigieg installed decorative lights for citizens colorfully ill loum nated rivers. >> with me now are nbc news road warriors, they're on the ground in new hampshire. mike memol wi the biden campaign. vaughn hilliard is following buttigieg. ali vitale is with klobuchar. shaquille bruster with sanders and i feel like i threw a party and you all showed up. thank you very much for that. can the person you're voting mike, i want to start with you. what are you hearing from the beat donald trump? second question is, can they

biden camp? >> reporter: well, alesia, hello help us win back the senate? from a block away and a block if bernie is a friend is a south here at the arena downtown nominee of the party every democrat in america up an down manchester where all these the ticket, blue states, red democrats are going tonight in states, purple states, every one one place, as well, a typically of them, every one of the most event a part of unity and a competitive districts, every democrat will have to carry the night to set tone of being able label that senator sandsers chosen for himself, not me, he's to unify for the general election and typically for most chosen it. democratic socialist. of the campaign it is joe biden preaching that message to the other democrats. >> joe biden continuing to go of course, he was often the one on the receiving ebld nd of att after bernie sanders today on the label of socialism. and nbc/"the wall street but what we have seen since journal" poll out this week really disappointing showing for shows 53% of registered voters him in iowa, what he called a have a negative view of gut punch, two things. socialism. so will this be a problem for one, a shakeup in the campaign, the democrats? let's bring in nina turner, change with anita dunn elevated national co-chair of the bernie sanders campaign. i see you laughing because you in headquarters and, of course, what at first seemed like a know that that is the question coming out of that intro. two-front battle with joe biden is it a problem? going on much more on the >> no. we have to break it down. the senator has done that many aggressi times. since we are on black history aggressive. we saw him attacking bernie sanders saying the party is month it is apropos to bring up taking a risk putting a socialist at the top of the

the dr. martin luther king jr. ticket an attacks on pete who talked about the fact we buttigieg to lean into more and more each day. you played a little bit of that have socialism for the rich and what i guess you all a snarky wealthy an rugged individualism for the poor. really what does democratic socialism mean? video compared to what joe biden government of, for and by the did as vice president. he talked even more about his people, putting the focus on the lack of support with the people. african-american community. biden was asked to explain why medicare for all. he's taking this much more insuring that people have the aggressive posture earlier opportunity to live a good life, today. let's take a listen to what he that their material conditions are changed. said. >> when you get attacked you got it is not changing in this to respond. country right now. i have kept my mouth shut for a ceos enjoy 900% wage increase listening time. i haven't responded at all. at all. while workers barely 5.5%. but he's been constant assertion so what exactly does that word that the problems that we're mean? it is unfortunate that the vice facing today are somehow because president is using that as a of our administration. boogieman attempt. that's simply not true. voters being asked in a certain and so we want to compare poll who do you believe is best records. it is easy to do. to go up against president trump i get it. that he's a good guy. and senator bernie sanders tops those polls each and every time. he's a great mayor. >> yet he won't be the first or >> reporter: biden went on to the last to use it as a say something i frankly thought was the case that he is not comfortable attacking fellow boogieman. last night senator sanders asked democrats but that's the position he is in here just a how this relates to the concept couple days before the new of e electable. hampshire primary and a real let's take a listen.

test for his candidacy here. >> because donald trump lies all the time. >> all right. [ applause ] mike, thank you so much. vaughn, i want do go to you. what's been the response from the buttigieg campaign? doesn't matter what donald trump says. it is a sad state of affairs. >> reporter: this is exactly it really is. where pete buttigieg wants to be, alesia. look at. he will say terrible things of he walked away calling himself a joe. he has. ugly disgusting things of winner of the i with caucus and now polling in new hampshire elizabeth, amy, anybody else up shows him going monoe monohere here but i think, george, at the end of the day of the way we with bernie sanders. defeat donald trump and i want to play a little bit ago everybody up here by the way is united, no matter who wins this in manchester where pete damn thing, we are going to buttigieg will be the first presidential candidate speaking stand together to defeat donald here at the dinner but just a trump. bit ago he responded directly to >> so if we get to a 2020 the former vice president's general election and it is a remarks as a campaign event up in lebanon. sanders/trump showdown this is a >> now, i know some folks are question that donald trump will out there saying, what business raise, right? this question of socialism. does a mayor of south bend have is the pushback, is the defense running for the presidency? from a democratic nominee you don't have an office in sanders that donald trump lies about everything so you can't washington. your community is little out of listen to him or is the defense

a full throated defense of his the way. economic policy? what i'm saying is that that's >> both and. exactly the point. right now there are so many senator is absolutely correct. communities, so many americans, any of the democratic candidates small and medium-sized cities up there, we know what the president is going to do. like mine, and neighborhoods in he is going to go after them and some of the biggest cities in go after them hard but this is the country that feel like really about senator sanders washington can't even hear us. having a true vision for this >> reporter: that's exactly the country. message that he is looking to and it's proven himself decade take away here from new after decade to be the person that stands on the side of the hampshire. and there is a number of mayors working class from all backgrounds in this country. we can't say the same thing across the country backing the candidacy and tweeted out about president donald trump. he ran on a faux populism that attracted people across the supportive statements for the country hurting. mayor and mayor of nashua here even in my home state of ohio in new hampshire. hurting because of bad trade the mayor made the comment that deals. he is looking to represent senator sanders voted against, voted against the war and did communities much like those of not vote to give the president nashua and taking the voices beyond and the question is what more money for the military budget and when president trump do the next three days look like has to face a true progressive for pete buttigieg? champion, it really is going to and will this state help propel be on and popping. him to the other early states? so again, going back to what >> all right. reverend dr. martin luther king thank you. ali, i want to go to you. jr. said, call it what you want,

democratic socialism or -- i'm klobuchar with a strong debate performance last night. how is he capitalizing on that paraphrasing, call it a change today? >> reporter: campaigning, of direction in this country and campaigning, campaigning, senator sanders of tn side of the every day people, frump on alicia. we have seen amy klobuchar have the side of his multimillionaire good debate nights before. last night she has one of the and billionaire friends. the same $1.6 trillion tax break standout performances, earned to the wealthiest people in this her buzz and cash, for sure. country he could have taken it and canceled the student debt in we saw people at the campaign event today and had an overflow the country. what would that do to lift people in this country who are saddled with that debt? crowd waiting outside and there's clearly buzz and just because they went to momentum building on the ground college. so senator bernie sanders has and what we haven't seen is that the vision, he has the integrity theoretically winning them and people trust him. doesn't mean winning in the he is the one to go head to head states that matter. so as we head into the new with president trump because the past, present and future in hampshire to vote on tuesday, terms of the vision is one that the big question is, does a can win. >> when you look at iowa, we debate stage win actually were promised at the turnout and translate into success here on the ground for amy klobuchar? the turnout most closely the money earned is important to mirrored 2016. does that make you nervous? build campaign infrastructure further down the calendar, >> no. allowing her to compete with the we have to drive people out. >> what do you think drives opponents and did a good job of people out? >> knowing that politicians is

staying in the mix, making sure not bs'g them, not bernie her voice was heard and being sanders. be really honest about what is sure that she was punching up at happening to them in their lives right now and what are you going pete buttigieg and joe biden, the other two people i hear from to do? voters considering amy not middle of the way this can't klobuchar, they say they happen. we need people to dream big and consider them, too. also going to put the entire we're meeting voters all day force and weight of the presidency behind changing their saying this is the time to decide so frankly amy klobuchar lives. one group did increase from 2008 did what elizabeth warren and that was our young adult probably should have and put voters ages 17 to 29. they showed up at 24% higher herself in the mix in front of voters on the last debate stage than they even did in 2008 so before new hampshire. that particular group did come elizabeth warren wasn't on the out at a higher number. receiving end of many attacks last night. we have to keep going out we have seen from bernie sanders pushing people and help them to at the end of last year when know that their voice matters, everyone was training attacks on the vote matters and we need elizabeth warren and mostly them to be in it to win it. ignoring bernie sanders, we have seen that being ignored can be a >> there's an element of a recent nbc/"wall street journal" national poll to get your take death knell out of the conversation or a chance to regroup. interesting thing to see is on. joe biden nearly double the support of black voters of elizabeth warren uses this as a chance to regroup and senator sanders. how do you change the numbers? springboard herself into the rest of the calendar. >> we are doing it. senator sanders won the most her team said they're in this coalition of voters. for a protracted primary. iowa is white state, granted. >> thank you. but there are black people

yulia, you were with andrew yang there, brown people there, people from other religions, earlier today. what he have to say about the muslims. senator sanders took, for attacks on buttigieg? example, a muslim caucus 99% >> reporter: yeah. so the businessman with no young people, black people, government experience weighed in brown people, that is an example on the pete buttigieg attacks of what he is able to do all saying that voters here, across this country. especially in new hampshire, are another point i want to make. savvy and aren't just looking for someone with the most african-american community cannot continue to be the experience. firewall for vice president take a listen to what he told me biden. in other words, every candidate whether it's vice president earlier. >> to me it's less about biden, my senator or other experience and more about your people have to earn the black vote and there is no other judgment and values and priorities and whether or not ethnic group or racial group in you can actually see where the problems are this time and the this country where people call solutions are. them their firewall so you got so i think americans are very to earn the vote and senator savvy where they know that some sanders is doing that experience is really important but different kinds of consistently across this country experience matters. and in south carolina and other places so we are working very hard to earn the vote and to win >> reporter: and andrew yang is over the african-american community. >> all right. national co-chair for the bernie sanders campaign, thank you so much for being here with us. real really banking on savvy voters >> thank you. iowa and new hampshire to turn out if droves for him to usually jumpstart the race for bounce back from a disappointing finish in iowa. the nomination and winknow the >> all right. yulia, thank you so much. field. after the communications

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shaquille, vaughn, mike, ali, deepa and julia, thank you all. i'm wishing you indoor live shots. it is very cold here. taking their shots at the leader of the pack. the candidates are stepping up their attacks on bernie sanders. next, i'll talk to his campaign co-chair about the debate over democratic socialism. on tuesday, we are bringing you special coverage of the new hampshire primary. it kicks off right here on msnbc at 6:00 p.m. eastern. is that net carbs or total?... eh, not enough fiber- chocolate would be good- snacking should be sweet and simple. the delicious taste of glucerna gives you the sweetness you crave while helping you manage your blood sugar. glucerna. everyday progress while helping you manage your blood sugar. take prilosec otc and take control of heartburn. so you don't have to stash antacids here... here... or, here. kick your antacid habit with prilosec otc. one pill a day, 24 hours, zero heartburn.

to win new hampshire you have got to go through the independent voters. the state has an open primary and 43% of the state's voters don't have a party afill yas but that doesn't always mean they're middle of the road or undecided. lets's bring in our panel. james pindle, jacklyn almonte, stephanie murray. and sirmichael singleton. introducing tide power pods with cat & nat. all right. i love how much i can stuff into these machines. james, we made a nod to the article there on the but that is such a large load, don't the stains sneak through? independents. what role are they going to play on tuesday? please. new tide power pods >> we always talk about this every four years, a classic can clean that... whole situation. independent story because it's you just toss it in before the clothes. classically very, very it's like two regular tide pods important. you mentioned the numbers there. and then some power and then even more power. they make up vast majority more than democrats so in truth a lot with 50% more cleaning power, even your large load got clean. of independent voters go one way or the other and they have the how many kids do you have? ability to pick up either girl i lost track. there's a lot of kids. ballot. and in the single party primary and then there's a husband, and then there's me. which we have now obviously president trump doesn't have that's a lot of clothes. much of a primary on one side, they will obviously probably

we all use our cellphones very differently. (vo) why the french family chose verizon. decide the last minute who's so, she's always on social media. going do win this new hampshire primary. one last thing to be important about just the role they play. in 2016 bernie sanders won new hampshire by 22 points. seems like a blowout. among democrats he and hillary clinton ran dead even and among independents he got 72% of the vote and that's how he crushed this particular primary. how and where these independent voters go and independent voters is not a similar name for moderate. they can be all over the place. bernie sanders -- >> makes it so complicated. >> they don't like the system or politics. they consider themselves independents, also. that group is not monolithic and probably decide what happens on tuesday. >> if you are a republican consultant and you are watching the results that are coming out of new hampshire, what does who those independents break for tell you about the general election that we are headed into? >> i don't think it tells much. i'll say that because when i

look at the democratic party writ large it is a diverse party that relies on african-americans and hispanics. a place like new hampshire which did go for bernie sanders the last time around, hillary clinton only beat the president by a little over 2,000 votes, and so i would not use new hampshire as a catalyst if you will of trying to figure out how do you develop and implement a strategy for a general election but look at south carolina and the other states beyond during super tuesday to give a more broader and more accurate picture. >> jackie, you noted in the newsletter voters in new hampshire terrified after what happened in iowa. did last night's debate make them less terrified? >> i don't think we saw that defining clarifying moment last night that i think voters were looking for. this is another thing we note every four years, the rivalry of new hampshire and iowa is well documented. this time around i think with the stakes so high with the

fears of trump palpable amongst voters they were looking for a little of direction and the muddled results added an additional burden on to voters. i talked to countless people this week which obviously, you know, we have to be aware of the anecdotal one-off evidence saying they were looking to iowa and today to the debate last night to help make that decision between amy klobuchar and peetd buttigieg. that being said, we have seen a notable bump for mayor pete. he is surging in the polls but look, there's three days left. this is a state that values that retail politics. they're looking for moments with candidates an the polls are so volatile so anything is really possible. i did meet a few voters today and the first name out of the mouths was klobuchar and someone that did stand out last night and tbd. >> does that sound right to you?

>> i mean, i think that sounds totally right and the big question is what will happen to elizabeth warren? >> yes. >> she is one of the neighboring state candidates and the pressure on her to perform well here and gotten lost in the shuffle from iowa to now. the big story lines out of iowa sanders and buttigieg tied, biden tanking. klobuchar picking up unexpected support and where does that leave elizabeth warren? in a third place. didn't get a lot of speaking time last night an i wonder what will happen to you. >> this is a great point and as all of us know well a state that does favor underdogs and i have been thinking if there is anyone who who's poised to make a comeback it is warren with the robust ground game she has and a potential to add on two or three points and outperform the polling. >> i thought the same thing, though, last week in iowa walking around. elizabeth warren could do something special in iowa and in a surprising way and did not happen. one thing that i'm observing

this week, you both mentioned the role that retail politics plays in the state and how much new hampshire voters really do like that comeback story is that while a lot of candidates are articulating to be the comeback, none are acting like they want to be -- >> what would that look like? >> people want to -- with jim car vel campaigning for michael bennett and kritding 1992 and 2008, the surprise wins. bill clinton with the comeback kid in his case and clintons and what they would do is go to every dunkin donuts, go to things between events. they would show the urgency and wanted it really badly. here they're all going to normal events, saying i want to the comeback. i deserve it. the intensity is different. >> hit the dunk in donuts. i have to ask you about something that came up last night. buttigieg was making a play for, quote, future former republicans. do you think he can make that

case? >> no. i just have to be honest. mayor needs to focus more on improving the standing with african-americans before he can start thinking about disaffected republicans. i think if you look at the country writ large and on the republican side i have a lot of former colleagues who are working on this, when you look at demography and the maps and people movement and mobilizations and where people going and moving from, things are changing and looking at iowa and new hampshire, when i worked on mitt romney's campaign, for example, it was very different. the role they played in the process on the republican side. on the democratic side, i would say that a party that relies so heavily on a diverse group of people cannot rely on two states that mostly resemble a place like norway, for example, than the realities of their own party and that's why i'm very hesitant and cautious to say that new hampshire and iowa will really give i guess a revelation if you will for who could have the best

shot of winning the democratic nomination. i would say let's focus on south carolina and then we will have i would argue a far broader picture, clearer picture of what that reality looks like down the line. >> i want to pick up on that point and nevada as it relates to elizabeth warren which is this entire time the argument has been i'm the unity candidate. is it perhaps implicit in that strategy that it takes a long tail? everyone has to duke it out and at the end she is the one who's able to bring people together? >> unity on the signs appeared last week. the strategy was to win iowa and new hampshire and of course with the role that iowa and new hampshire play and maybe not iowa this time playing anything but generally there they play to give a candidate who does well there or one or two or three candidates momentum. buttigieg has that clearly this week. the second thing they do is

don't pick presidents. they winnow down the field and winnow down the field because they don't drop out with third or fourth place in iowa and new hampshire but because the campaign is broke. because you got third or fourtd place and after iowa and new hampshire. the way elizabeth warren is financing and bernie sanders on the low-dollar auto pays so even finishing third or fourth in new hampshire, she knows she can head into nevada 11 days later and she will get $3 million, $4 million automatically in the bank and critical for joe biden's campaign not financed that way. how does he survive and fund a campaign going forward? >> someone at home said, oh right, that auto pay. i forgot about that. james, jacklyn, stephanie, syrmichael thank you so much. the spotlight is shining bright on mayor pete after the strong showing in iowa but that's drawing fresh attacks from the other candidates. the campaign co-chair sits down with me next.

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i'm richard lui in new york city with some breaking news this hour. military officials say multiple u.s. troops were killed and wounded in an attack in afghanistan. it is not clear at this moment how many victims there are. the spokesperson for u.s. forces in afghanistan saying u.s. and afghan forces conducting an operation in the area where they were engaged by direct fire and waiting to learn more details and just in to msnbc. for now, over to alicia menendez in new hampshire. last night's democratic debate put former south bend mayor pete buttigieg in the hot seat. polls show buttigieg at the top of the heap according to the latest "boston globe"/suffolk university polling this morning. he is tied virt lull we bernie

sanders. despite doing well in iowa and now in the granite state, buttigieg's vulnerability on race relations could be a problem in the primary of south carolina. with me now is maryland democratic representative anthony brown, former maryland lieutenant governor and national co-chair of pete buttigieg's campaign. thank you so much for being here. before we get to the questions about the mayor and race relations, i want to ask you about the piece of breaking news we came in. multiple casualties in afghanistan. a reminder of what is at stake, right? myriad domestic crises, myriad international crises. there is a question of your candidate, does he have enough experience? in some ways that question is unanswerable. in some ways it becomes a gut feeling about the candidate. what would you say for someone who looks at the mayor and says i like what i hear but i'm just

not sure we have the luxury of putting someone in that office who doesn't have federal experience? >> sure. a thing we know of mayor pete, only candidate with military experience, been in afghanistan and today the breaking news, five or six u.s. soldiers killed in afghanistan. he's been there, he knows what it means for the commander in chief to make that difficult decision. do i -- what troop levels do i keep in afghanistan? send men and women, military men and women into harm's way, whether the middle east or elsewhere around the globe? he knows the impact on service members and families and he also knows that he has to consider all the information disposable to a commander in chief unlike president trump who's not read a single intelligence briefing in the presidency and appreciates the fact that military strength and might not the only tool available. and that we have got to lead with diplomacy, with our economic power to invest and develop aid and human taritaria

aid. he bring that is character to this office. >> there was a question that the mayor fielded last night about the rise of marijuana convictions under his leadership. and there was a perception that he stumbled or had some difficulty answering that question. do awe gree? is there a strong rebut tool that question? >> he made the clear point that there is systemic discrimination and racism in america, that perpetuates this problem that we have, whether it's the criminal justice treatment, whether it's health care, education. you have got to look at the facts that are taking place on the ground in south bend. as under mayor pete's leadership, if you're an african-american man the likelihood of being arrested for marijuana possession in south bend was lower than in all of indiana. and the likelihood of being arrested for an african-american man in south bend, indiana, for drug charges was lower not only

in indiana but across the country and making progress but i think pete also made an important point that a lot of work has to be done. right? yes, at the municipal level and the state and federal level. he brings that experience at understanding that knowledge. he would bring to the presidency and really get that type of reform that we need and that he's laid out in the douglas plan. >> there was a moment last night where vice president biden was talking about the mayor and he said, pete hasn't proven and i thought it was going to be an attack on experience. he hasn't proven to lead. the attack was actually he hasn't proven that he can build a coalition, right? there is a poll from this week only 4% of black voters ranked buttigieg as their first choice. we should note that poll was taken after iowa but before last night's debate. clearly there is effort and how do you change the numbers? >> first of all, look at where he's been to see if he can build a coalition. in iowa he built a coalition of

democrats, independents and some republicans. intergenerational coalition of younger and older americans and coalition of suburban, urban and rural voters. that's iowa. some will say there's -- not reflective of the diversity of the country but that's iowa and built a coalition to take him from registering 0% a year ago to coming out of iowa victorious. so what we do is going from state to state we build a coalition based on the communities that are on -- in that state. so, you know, we are in south carolina. we have offices open. we have got an extraordinary field staff. we're meeting the voters where they are, whether it's in african-american churches, on digital, social media. he had great hits with -- >> when you talk to the voters, are they primarily interested in issues? or are they primarily interested of who can beat donald trump?

>> both. they really are. certainly want a candidate to beat donald trump and want to know what are you going to do to improve my quality of of life and that of my family's? pete understanding the systematic discrimination, disenfranchise and the african-american community, you know, he's got a health plan, modeled after what we have done in maryland. health equity zones. to address health disparities. he's got part of that program to invest heavily in historically black urines and colleges educating 30% of the black engineers in the country and underfunded by state and federal government. so he's got a comprehensive plan based on the experience in south bend and those issues that resonate with voters across the country and certainly in south carolina. >> all right. congressman, thank you so much for being here with us. we will be back soon. they're the biggest bloc of

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millennial voters here in new hampshire? joining me now, josi pointo with the new hampshire youth movement and youth movement. an organization that has endorsed senator sanders. and kurt pullman involved in local government in manchester and former merchant marine. thank you both for being here. when we talk about millennials, i often think people imagine young people. and while we are young enough, look at us. we're all adults here. right? driving people to the polls. this latest cnn/university of new hampshire poll found climate change are among top concerns followed closely by healthcare. >> absolutely. we have decided that our guiding issues are the green new deal, medicare for all, and free college for all because we think that those are the policies young people need to really thrive in this country. >> and is that why you are supporting senator sanders? >> definitely, yeah.

he is not only the strongest but the most consistent on the issues. >> does that sound similar to your friends? >> we're in a bit of a different age spectrum than josie is. most of the people i interact with see infrastructure, healthcare -- >> when you say infrastructure, what does that mean? >> we see the benefits we could all reap if our infrastructure was upgraded and improved to enable us to commute to work easier every day. especially, in the metropolitan areas. >> senator sanders did very well four years ago with young voters. do you think he is poised to do as well this time around? >> i think so. and i think there is a lot of young people who have now come of age that were really big fans of bernie. but might have been in high school. and so i'm really excited to see what youth voter turnout rates are going to be like in new hampshire. probably pretty high. >> so when you are trying to persuade someone to vote for sanders, who is it often they have their eye on? >> some others i have heard is

definitely warren has pretty good ground game here in new hampshire. and i've heard a bit of buttigieg and yang. but overall, bernie tends to be the candidate people move towards. >> i was in iowa talking with young latinos that the sanders campaign was organizing and one of the things i heard from them very consistently is we love that he's been saying the same thing for the entirety of his career. and that consistency, that authenticity was a big part of the selling for them. is -- is this a voting block that is focused on issues? or is it focused on electability? that's sort of been the core question that we have been asking today. >> yeah. it's a good one. >> yeah. i think that electability is only relevant to each individual person. so if you think that someone should be the candidate, then you should vote for him. i don't think your vote should be based on who you think other people will vote for. and i think, yeah, when politicians aren't that trustworthy overall, bernie sanders saying the same thing

since before i was born is really compelling to me because i think he really means what he says. and i think he is the reason why so many of these issues are now popular in 2020 because he made them popular in 2016. >> kurt, you are one of these mythical, undecided, going to wait to the last minute to walk into that polling place voters that i have spent the last few hours talking act. >> yeah. >> come on. it's time. so what is told you up? >> i think there's just so many candidates still in the race right now that honestly it's a little hard for myself to feel well educated enough to make a confident decision. >> what would it take for you to feel well educated? >> a lot more time and research really is what it takes for me. >> you understand that there are those of us like we have watched eight debates. we have been in this for what feels like the better part of two years. note enough time?

do you have it at least win knowwinnowed to at least a few candidates? >> not fully there yet. >> we were talking in the earlier clock about how much of the decision in these final days comes down to direct interaction with some of these candidates hitting the dunkin' donuts very hard. meeting voters. have you met any of these candidates? >> yeah i went to trivia night last weekend. tulsi gabbard was one of the hosts. >> did that make you feel more informed about her candidacy? >> definitely did. i have a chance to have a conversation with her but putting faces to names and face to face interactions are really cool. >> so for you, having a candidate you are fully committed to, how do you then take someone who says i am holding out and persuade them that your guy is the guy? >> well, i know that you care a lot about affordable housing and bernie sanders actually has a homes guarantee. he believes every single person in this country should have a home. i know that's an issue you care about just from our brief conversation. but i think i'd want to get to

know you more and what issues you care about. like you said, it's really about the issues and i really like to educate people. have a voter scorecard i would be happy to share with you. bernie just came out strongest on all three of our issues. >> you look terribly uncomfortable. so i -- i -- i apologize to you for the hard sell. but thank you both so much. josie pinto and kurt pullman, i appreciate your time and your perspective. that wraps it up for this hour. i'll be back tomorrow at 4:00 p.m. eastern, live from manchester. we continue our special coverage of the primary here in new hampshire throughout the weekend. hardball with chris matthews is next. we made usaa insurance for members like kate. a former army medic, made of the flexibility to handle whatever monday has in store and tackle four things at once.

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four days to go until the primary, we've got a duel on our hands. our brand new nbc news poll, out tonight, shows bernie sanders and pete buttigieg fighting it out at the front of the pack. the nbc news/marist poll taken after monday's iowa caucuses show sanders leading 25% up three points since last month. pete buttigieg is in second place and within the margin of error at 21%, he's at four points. elizabeth warren is next at 14%, up 1% from last month. followed by joe biden at 13, down two points since january. so you get the picture. senator amy klobuchar and the other candidates are in single digits. the new poll caps off a turbulent week here -- week here which began with monday's iowa caucuses fiasco that led to both buttigieg and sanders, both of these guys, claiming victory.