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does, take huge amounts of contributions from the ceos of the pharmaceutical industry. >> bernie is pretty rich. i would happily accept a contribution from him. >> i didn't attack pete. he's been attacking me. >> the coalition of billionaires won't carry us over the top. also the president's payback, firing impeachment witnesses. who can stop him, and where it ends. rising toll. new numbers on the coronavirus today as hundreds remain stranded on cruise ships around the world. tuesday is the day for new hampshire voters to make their final choice in the democratic primary. and it may be a very close race. the latest poll showing bernie sanders on top with 24%, just a bit ahead of pete buttigieg, he's coming in with 22%. most candidates are campaigning in new hampshire today. several are already out there stumping. joe biden doubling down on his claim that he's the only candidate who can earn the support of enough black voters to win in november.
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>> no one has ever won the nomination without being able to get overwhelming support from the african-american community either. and so far no one's been doing that but me. look, the thing that changes this election is, everybody in the democratic party is united on one thing. you have to beat donald trump. in order do do that everybody knows you have to bring out the black and brown vote. >> buttigieg addressing his struggles with the african-american community. nbc's chuck todd pressed him on his record as mayor. >> why is it that the voters who know me best in the african-american community, those in south bend, are backing me? and it's not -- >> not everybody. there are some leading -- a member of the city council in south bend is not just not backing you but calling into question your leadership in the african-american community. >> he ran for mayor, he was one of my rivals, and came in fifth. most african-american officials involved in this campaign at all are supporting me. it's not because it was perfect. this is my point. we have to deal with these
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issues on the ground. >> chuck todd also challenged senator bernie sanders over how he's going to convince voters president trump has not been good for the economy. >> we have to create an economy that works for the middle class. >> they think it's working well for them. >> for some, it may. here's the reality. half of the american people today are living paycheck to paycheck, a half a million people are sleeping out on the streets. three people own more wealth than the bottom half of americans. >> senator elizabeth warren continues to stress the importance of beating purchaser, claiming she's the only one who can. >> i hear people talk about the race against donald trump may be unwinnable. i've been winning unwinnable fights all my life. i'm the only one in this race who has beaten an incumbent republican in the last 30 years. >> andrew yang talking to reporters in hopping ton, new
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hampshire, and senator amy klobuchar at a diner, talking to voters. our nbc news road warrior, shaq brewster, mike memoli, ali vitali, reporting from across the state. we'll go first to nbc's mike memoli in hampton, new hampshire. mike, welcome to you. the biden campaign came out with this ad yesterday targeting former mayor pete buttigieg. everyone take a look. >> when president obama called on him, joe biden helped lead the passage of the affordable care act which gave health care to 20 million people. pete buttigieg installed decorative lights on the bridges. both vice president biden and pete buttigieg took on tough fights. joe biden helped negotiate the iran deal. buttigieg negotiated lighter
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licensing regulations on pet chip standards. >> i don't know about that one. what else is biden saying today, mike? >> reporter: alex, as you can see, the former vice president behind me is just beginning his remarks here in hampton. what we've seen over the last month is just a slow build of his contrast with mayor pete buttigieg. in the days and weeks before iowa he would repeatedly tell voters that this is not a time for on-the-job training, never mentioning mayor pete by name but clearly having him in mind. what we've seen since his disappointing fourth place finish in iowa is his explicitly calling out mayor pete saying it would be a risk to nominate somebody whose only experience is as mayor of a small city. he pointed out that manchester has a bigger population than south bend. as you played from george stephanopoulos' interview this morning, he said the nominee of this party has to be able to demonstrate a breadth of support
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from african-american voters. he was asked about it at a press conference yesterday. >> reporter: hillary clinton said, barack obama, you don't have the experience to be president. he went on to be president. is this an act of desperation on your campaign -- >> oh, come on, man. this guy's not a barack obama. barack obama had been a united states senator of a really large state. barack obama had laid out a clear vision of what he thought the international society should look like and what the world order should be. >> reporter: the other new message we've been hearing from joe biden here in new hampshire this week is really leaning into this idea of empathy, his campaign feels he had a great moment at the cnn town hall. he's been telling voters here he's experienced a lot of loss in his life, he lost a wife and son. he said, i'll be damned if we'll lose this election to donald
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trump and lose our country in the process. when he said that last night, he was drowned out by applause. >> i can imagine. given that he is speaking right now, i'll let you go, we'll talk to you again next hour, thank you so much, mike memoli. vaughn hillyard is in nashua, new hampshire, with the buttigieg campaign. what is that campaign saying today about this? it's kind of a feud that seems to be escalating, vaughn. >> reporter: you could call it a feud that's escalating. but i think over the course of the last 24 hours, alex, and i think that mike would agree, there's only one candidate who has launched any grenades and that would be the former vice president. not only with that digitizement but also in his own words, as you just played. meanwhile pete buttigieg has very much stuck to the message that he drove through iowa with in those final three weeks and he's pressed forward here, that it's going to take a democratic party that is united, one that is willing to bring over independents and republicans. this is the first stop of his day, he has five stops across
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new hampshire today. we're at nashua at elm street middle school. pete buttigieg is about to take the stage. as part of this conversation, there may be no better city for him to be starting off his stay at other than nashua because overnight mayors across the country put out statements in support of pete buttigieg, defending the importance of local governance. one of those mayors was the mayor here of nashua, a city of 90,000. the mayor put out overnight a tweet that said, quote, mayors must solve problems and get things done. many mayors are working on projects like this back home. this is part of what pete buttigieg is trying to drive home, that he's here to take the message from folks in these communities outward. one other note, alex, that is the fact that joe biden was asked yesterday about, back in 2007, he had at the time suggested that then-senator barack obama also wasn't ready for the job. and the white house is not a place for on-the-job training. he was asked about that yesterday. and that's when he said that pete buttigieg was no barack
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obama. i'll let you hear pete buttigieg's response to that this morning. >> well, he's right, i'm not. and neither is he. neither is in he of us running for president. this isn't 2008, it's 2020. we are in a new moment, calling for a different kind of leadership. >> reporter: and pete buttigieg has pressed forward that message that every democrat who has won the presidency over the last 50 years is someone who was young and her broug er and brought a new style of politics. >> things are ramping up there, we'll let you go, thank you so much, vaughn hillyard. plymouth new hampshire is where nbc news road warrior shaquille brewster is with the sanders campaign, shaq, welcome to you. what does sanders have to do to keep his lead in new hampshire? >> reporter: alex, it kind of goes into part of what we were hearing from mike and vaughn just there. if you look at the polls you do
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see senator sanders is in a good position, he came into new hampshire leading the average of polls. and the most recent polling that we're seeing is that it's sanders at top and then mayor pete buttigieg right behind him. so that's why they're happy that you have vice president biden going after him, amy klobuchar going after him. senator sanders is also trying to contend with the fact that in iowa, he was one who said he wanted historic turnout. he said over and over in the closing days, if there was historic turnout, he would win. based on the results out of iowa, there was not that historic turnout. he was on "meet the press" with chuck todd this morning and was asked about that. listen to what he said. >> the voter turnout in iowa was not what i wanted. i think other candidates were not able to bring out their voters as well. young people did come out in very big numbers which i think is a great omen for the 2020
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campaign. >> reporter: now he's trying to have that turnout that we didn't necessarily see in iowa, he wants to have that here in new hampshire. he'll be having four public stops throughout the state, ending with a big concert later tonight. he also was on all the sunday shows, heard him there on "meet the press," he was on cnn, fox news as well. he's trying to get his message out as aggressively as he can, get his volunteers mobilized, because he believes he's a neighboring senator, he was ahead in the polls, then led here and won here in 2016. he believes he has a formula that can lead to victory here in new hampshire, alex. >> shaq, thank you for that. let's go now to nbc news road warrior ali vitali in manchester, new hampshire, covering both warren and klobuchar in their campaigns in these a couple of final days before everyone heads to the polls on tuesday. so first let's talk about elizabeth warren. where do things stand with her? >> reporter: alex, for both of these candidates, clearly they both want to win here in new hampshire.
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but the stakes are so different for each of them. we'll start with senator elizabeth warren who in the aftermath of iowa, in talking to sources of mine in her campaign, the idea is a protracted primary. they planned several weeks ago in a memo her campaign manager put out that this was going to be a long haul kind of strategy for them. they needed to make their way down the calendar and be able to stay alive and play in as many of these states as they possibly can, basically saying, yeah, the early four states are important but the rest of the calendar matters too. warren herself spoke to that strategy this morning on one of the morning shows. i want you to hear what she said. >> you know, look, the way i see this, it's going to be a long campaign. i've been to 31 states to do town halls, red states and blue states. we had a thousand people on the ground. we've built a campaign to go the distance. and that's what i think is going to happen here. >> reporter: so, alex, those numbers she laid out are important. she's built a 1,000-person
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organization, over 31 states. those are the resources you need on the ground in order to continue. but there's two things with this idea of how long this primary will go for elizabeth warren. on the one hand, the way that she's fund raising, she's a doing it through grassroots, she needs the resources to continue paying those staffs down the calendar. at the same time she doesn't necessarily have to assuage donors like other candidates do. donors can get jittery, they want to know they're putting their money behind a winner. joe biden's team had a call with donors after iowa to assuage them and keep things optimistic. other campaigns will have to do that as well. elizabeth warren and bernie sanders are not funding their campaigns that way so they don't have to worry about that but they do have to worry about having the money to keep their campaigns going. it's hard to believe you can walk into the convention never having won a state outright. maybe it's not new hampshire or
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even nevada but elizabeth warren at some point is going to have to show she can win a state outright. on the amy klobuchar front, she is one of those people fundraising with donors. she got a big bump after the debate stage, 2.5 million dollars, that's really important to her campaign. the thing is we've seen the debate performances can bring bumps in fundraising and in polling but we haven't seen that they directly translate into a win on the ground. so for amy klobuchar, those are the stakes as we see in polls that only 39% of people in a cbs poll out this morning say they're definitely decided own their candidate, alex. >> that's true, but she did do really well in that debate and has bumped up a bit as the result of that. ali, stay where you are, thank you so much, as long as joe isn't talking too loud behind you, mike, and as long as the pete crowd isn't chanting too loud behind you, vaughn, here's a question for all of you. on a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being
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ecstatic, tell us what the mood is in the campaign. mike, you first. >> reporter: that's a dangerous question, alex. i would say a 4. there's definitely a real awareness of the stakes here in new hampshire for a strong performance. >> 4 for biden. how about you, shaq? >> reporter: i would say about a 7 or 8, they feel really good about their position here in new hampshire but they do need a win. they can't go with another iowa where it's not clear or a relative tie. this is a state where he believes she should come out strong. >> shaq there covering bernie sanders. vaughn, you with pete. >> reporter: 9. this is the best the campaign has felt to date. they pulled off what they're calling an iowa caucus victory. i have to tell you, over the course of the last year, i wouldn't say there's necessarily a resounding energy about pete buttigieg events. but this week it's different. i think this crowd is a testament to that, alex, to be frank. >> ali, with both the leading ladies, elizabeth warren first, her campaign, and then amy klobuchar's. >> reporter: i'm going to give
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6's across the board with the caveat that this is an even-keeled group of people, they set a plan in place here that they think this is going to be a protracted primary. they're trying to execute that plan going forward. of course everyone wants to win iowa, everyone wants to see the polls that have them highest bear out on the ground. at the same time i think both of these campaigns are pretty cautiously optimistic. but dangerous question, mike is right. >> well, you know me, what can i say, apologies? nope. good to see all four of you, thank you so much. stay with msnbc today, we'll have live coverage from manchester, new hampshire all day long. chris jansing will pick it up from me at 2:00 eastern. she wants some company, so if you're in the area, we invite all of you to be part of her live audience. you can all just go to the penstock on double elm street r manchester, chris would love to have you. alicia menendez at 4:00, and
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we have breaking news in new york city here. we're glad to tell you one of the officers shot in new york
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city this weekend has just been released from the hospital, a chaotic scene you're seeing right there. police arrested the man who ambushed multiple officers in morning city. mayor de blasio this morning said the shooting was an attack on democratic society. >> this was an attempt to assassinate police officers. we need to use that word. because it was a premeditated effort to kill. and not just to kill other human beings but to kill those who wear a uniform that represents all of us. an attack on a police officer is an attack on all of us. >> that gunman stormed a bronx precinct this morning, shot one officer in the arm, then surrendered on the ground. police say he's responsible for two shootings of police officers. this was at point blank range. the president blamed mayor de blasio's leadership for the assault but both injured police officers are expected to fully recover. as we said, one of them has left
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the hospital, good news there. let's turn now to new reaction today as the fallout grows over the president's decision to fire two key impeachment witnesses. lieutenant colonel alexander vindman, the top ukrainian expert on the national security council in the white house as well as eu ambassador gordon sondland both out of the within 48 hours of the president's acquittal. "the new york times" reports a handful of republican senators tried to stop the president from recalling ambassador sondland, saying they were concerned it would look bad for trump. democratic congressman sean patrick maloney called those senators out right here on msnbc earlier. >> even though they took a vote that could have absolutely guaranteed that people like lieutenant colonel vindman would be hurt, would be made to pay the price for their fecklessness, their cowardice, they want us to know they were troubled about it, they'll continue to support this president but they want "the new york times" to know they
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secretly know it's wrong. you know what? spare me. spare me. that's what i mean. i don't need phony, off the record, after the fact friends. i would rather have an honest enemy. >> meanwhile senator lindsey graham coming to the defense of the president today, supporting his decision to oust those impeachment witnesses. >> i think his reassignment was justified. i don't think he should be at the nsc. >> should gordon sondland have been fired as well? >> he's a political employee, he serves at the pleasure of the president. >> of course. >> we're not going to live in a world where the department of justice, the cia, and the fbi can cut corners, go after trump and nobody gives a damn. >> joining me now, maxine waters, chair of the financial services committee. welcome, ma'am, my california friend as well. let's get to your reaction, what has been going through your mind since both of these firings
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within hours of each other? >> well, thank you very much for having me on today. i tell you what's been going through my mind. this president defined himself a long time ago. i am not surprised at anything that he would do. he has no respect for his colleagues, no respect for the constitution, no respect for people of color, and so the firing is typical of what this president is all about. he basically told us what he's capable of. and this is not the end of it. you think this is something? watch what he's going to continue to do. we have a dishonorable president not capable of being the president of the united states, representing and caring for all the people and the security of this country. and so we're in for it. we're in for this president and actions such as this and more that's going to go on and his campaign is going to help pay
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for him being even more ridiculous. so again, i'm not surprised. it's almost as if i want to say i told you so. >> well, i think you have, on our broadcast, before. of what are you most concerned, what kind of things do you think the president is capable of, where if he goes there, you'll lose it? >> this president is capable of causing great harm to this country. i've been worried about his relationship with putin and the oligarchs of russia. i think it was missed in the mueller investigation. i think that manafort was there, put there to run his campaign, to be the chair of his campaign in exchange for this president absolutely saying to putin he would lift those sanctions. that's what putin is worried about. but you can see a number of
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actions that the president has taken in order to be able to make sure that putin is satisfied with what he's doing. so i'm worried about that. but i'm also worried about he's going to be even more divisive than he's been. he said, and he warned us that if he did not get elected, that there was going to be a race riot. i mean, he basically said it in so many words. so that's a bad, bad leadership action that he's already taken, where he's predicting that all that he's doing will cause people to turn on each other and it would be a race riot if he's not -- what more do we want from this president? you know, yes, he went through the impeachment process, we impeached him in the house, the senate didn't have the nerve, the guts, didn't have the
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responsibility as patriots to do what needed to be done and to not support this president. and now they're talking about, they ask him not to fire vin land and not to fire sondland? give me a break. >> we have a sense from some of your gop colleagues in the senate that they too are worried about the president, this according to "the new york times," and we heard representative maloney as a democrat pushing back, saying give me a break, because he didn't really believe their concerns were legitimate based on their votes in the senate. >> that's true. absolutely. listen, you can't say after the fact, when you had an opportunity to show what you care about, you can't after the fact talk about, we warned him. he doesn't give a darn about what they think. he knows he's got them. he knows that they are afraid of him. he knows that he controls them.
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this is the trump party. and so who cares what they're talking about after the fact? it is absolutely ridiculous. and it's an insult to our intelligence. >> all right. let's move to the 2020 presidential race right now. >> yes. >> as you know, pete buttigieg has become a frontrunner after his finish in iowa. however his record with african-american voters are being put under the microscope. i want to play for you an exchange he had with my colleague chuck todd earlier. >> when you start peeling back some of the layers here, there is some questionable things on your record, particularly in your dealings with the african-american community. >> well, our story and the story of our city is that have a city facing tremendous challenges. when you're a mayor you don't just get to opine on things or vote on things or call for things to change. you have to roll your sleeves up and do them. i will stack up my record against anybody else who is running for president, all of whom are implicated in the
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realities that our country faces, especially when it comes to racial and economic inequality. >> what do you think of these questions? do you think they're fair? do you think he might end up being the best candidate to beat donald trump? >> well, let me just tell you this. you know, one's record will speak for itself. if there are facts about what he has done or what he has not done, then he's going to have to try and make people, you know, believe that he understands where he made mistakes and promises to do better and be able to articulate how he's going to do even better than he's done in the past. but let me just say this. most white candidates live in white communities. they go to white churches. their children go basically to white schools, et cetera, et cetera. so, you know, they all have blemishes on their record about their relationships with black people. and so the way they change
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oftentimes is if we are able to organize and to protest and to force them to understand what they're not doing in terms of equality and justice and force them to have to recognize that and do the right thing. and so i think if you look at all of the records, you'll find that the interaction with black people has not been stellar. they have not done anything that is so great that one can be said to be so much better than the other. they all need to understand their responsibility to all of the people. many of these white candidates will go down to selma, alabama for the first time to walk across the edmond pettus bridge. they hadn't done it before. many of them will go to a black church for the first time in their lives. so we're dealing with all of them. and now that the black vote has become very important and very
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influential, we need to use this opportunity to ensure that they're making the kind of commitments that they can keep up with, that the promises they're making will be kept, and we'll know in the conversations that they have whether or not they're trying to learn something about black people overnight or whether or not they really have given thought to it, they've been there, and they can identify what they've done in the past. and that goes for all of them. >> amen that, congresswoman maxine waters, a great chat, thank you, come see me again. >> you're welcome, thank you. there's one big way new hampshire will be nothing like iowa and it will probably be a relief to most democrats by wednesday morning. of course wednesday morning could also be the end of some 2020 complaiampaigns, so who mi that affect? details next. ect? details next (sensei) when i started cobra kai,
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new word today from granite state election officials reassuring voters that blund he was -- blunders of iowa will not be repeated. cal perry, welcome to you. what are officials doing to deliver on this promise? >> the man who is running this election in new hampshire, secretary of state bill gardner, says it's an absence of
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technology that will be the key. take a listen. >> to start out with, you can't hack a pencil. and then roughly 85% of the people of the state will then take that paper ballot and put it in an optical scan device. and that device is not connected to the internet. >> monday night you're going to sleep. what's worrying you about the next day? so, weather. >> the weather. but we're going to have it. no matter what. >> so alex, 85% of voters will put that vote through a machine which will immediately tally it. the other 15%, those votes are actually tabulated by hand. police will bring those records to concord of who was voted for. bill gardner has run 500 elections. it's worth point out to our viewers, there is a statewide election here every two years,
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this is one of only two states where the governor's term is only two years. they're relying on experience to provide quick results. >> it sounds like they're going forward the old fashioned way. it works in my polling station in new york, using those machines, you mark it with a penc pencil, feed it, and boom, you're done. cal perry, thank you for that. daniel strauss and jonathan alter join us, hey, guys, good to see you both. jonathan, you've covered the new hampshire primaries -- is it nine election cycles now? i mean, wow, so you know new hampshire. >> back to 1984, yes. >> what's different? anything different this time around? >> it's often very uncertain. and i think the level of uncertainty is higher. so i've seen other -- plenty of other cases where the polls were really wrong. as recently as 2008, everybody
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expected obama who won the iowa caucuses to win here, he was upset by hillary clinton. the first one i covered in 1984, everyone expected walter mondale to win, he was upset by gary hart. so predictions are really dumb to make in the new hampshire primary. that i think is consistent. what is a little bit different is that the passions seem more divided among more candidates than you usually see. often it comes down to two or at most three who are in the hunt. and here there are more, although there are going to be some losers. a lot of people have a lot at stake, not just amy klobuchar and andrew yang whose campaigns will end if they don't outperform expectations. but elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, who are from neighboring states, if they underperform, that's a real problem for both of their
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campaigns. if bernie sanders doesn't win the new hampshire primary, as a number of people expect him to do, he's got a problem. everybody's been talking about how strong he is, but he has a problem if they have not brought pete buttigieg to earth in the last couple of days. >> you know what's interesting, as i look at more recent history, new hampshire has done a really good job of predicting republican presidential candidates ultimately and who will be the nominee. not so much the last couple of times for the democrats, they picked bernie sanders the last go-round when it was hillary clinton, the time before that they picked hillary clinton and it ended up being barack obama in 2008. they did get john kerry right, just adding perspective to yours. daniel, i want to ask you about the iowa debacle and after that. how important is new hampshire, to set everything on the correct path? >> i mean, it's more important than usually it is, and already
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that's very important. right now there's no certain sense of who is a frontrunner or who is, you know, very close to securing that frontrunner status. that's usually what iowa does. and right now, all the candidates view new hampshire now as sort of a first in the nation state, the first decider of who the frontrunner is in this very large pack. >> what about ground game, jonathan, who has the best one? >> a little bit hard to say. i think sanders and warren have good ground games. buttigieg showed in iowa that he had done an exceptionally good job of organizing there, kind of almost under the radar, and delivered from a lot of rural precincts. so we'll see about his organization here too. southern new hampshire, where there are a lot of votes, seems a little bit more like buttigieg country, because there's a lot of people who are a little more moderate, they sometimes vote in republican primaries.
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there are a lot of i understand. i think the three of them have the best ground games. it's really a little bit less of a ground operation than in iowa, because it is a primary state. and that last debate, and the way people absorb that debate on friday night is super important. so that's amy klobuchar's chance, not to win here but to outperform expectations, as a lot of people thought she won that friday night debate. >> daniel, last question to you, who do you think has tuesday being a make or break moment of the campaign? >> i mean, i would say first, elizabeth warren. this is her backyard and there is a question about her long term viability in the race, especially with bernie sanders leading the field. the assumption is that two new englanders probably can't stay in this race long term. also beyond that, amy klobuchar,
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who has demonstrated some staying power, but the next few states, nevada, south carolina, and super tuesday, are very precarious for her. >> okay. that's the last word for now, guys, we'll hear from you again, daniel, jonathan, thank you, gentlemen. all of you, stay with msnbc today, live coverage from new hampshire starting at 2:00 eastern with chris jansing. if you're in the manchester, head to penstock at the doubletree in manchester, new hampshire, hours of fascinating political talk. then alycia menendez picks up the coverage at 4:00 followed by "kasie d.c." coming up, you may be wondering how long will it take to develop a vaccine against coronavirus. coronavirus. now there's new powerwash dish spray. it's the faster way to clean as you go. just spray, wipe and rinse. it cleans grease five times faster.
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breaking news, the coronavirus outbreak has reached a deadly new milestone. that virus has claimed more lives than the sars epidemic. 813 people have died from coronavirus. 774 died from sars in 2003. right now there are more than 37,000 confirmed cases of coronavirus around the world. that number is growing by the day. joining us now from jerusalem, the founding dean of the national school of tropical medicine at baylor college of medicine, dr. peter hotez. a couple of questions for you, sir, right now no vaccines for the coronavirus.
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how long duke it will take to develop one and can this epidemic be eradicated without one? >> that's a good question. this virus seems to be quite transmissible. and the chinese are really having a tough time containing it within the province, the center of china, and wuhan. the worry is this will spread across china in a large way. i think the chinese are doing a good job, the best they can, the problem is they're doing this with one hand tied behind their back without a vaccine. there are a lot of technologies out there for developing a vaccine, including ours. the problem is this, we still have to get all of those vaccines tested for safety in china. and that takes weeks or months. it's really hard to fast track that. that's really what's going to slow us down. >> that makes sense. what about the hundreds quarantined on cruise ships after hundreds of passengers
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tested positive for coronavirus. is it healthy for them to stay in an enclosed space where the virus is lingering? >> that's a tough one, cruise ships have gotten so large. having a transmissible virus, trying to get your arms around that causes you to make some tough decisions. this is going to really affect the cruise industry. and it's really affecting the global economy right now. we're already seeing a big impact on the chinese economy, and this is going to affect stock markets in asia. so this is part of the problem, you know, we're reluctant to invest in the money we need, the funds we need to develop vaccines and now we're paying the price. who knows what kind of economic hit china will take, and globally as well. we're penny-wise, pound-foolish on this front. >> thank you, baylor college of medicine's dr. hortez. the behind the scenes push
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were worried the firing of sondland who delivered damaging testimony against the president would reflect negatively on mr. trump. the president did it anyway. "the times" is citing people briefed on those discussions. joining me shauna and charlie. both are msnbc contributors. welcome to you both. charlie, want to dive into the reporting of this piece by your colleagues. these are some of the senators behind this pushback. that includes susan collins who was a wild card for a while but then ended up voting to acquit the president. why didn't they express the same concern for others? >> they come from purple states, not hard right red states. they are in a position where
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independent voters and their opinion of whether a republican senate that does not act as a check and balance on the president may be crucial to their political futures. three of the four up for re-election this fall. i think republicans see him as a different situation than ambassador sondland. sondland was a political appointee, which gives the president legal right to recall him at will. sondland was trying to protect trump. he kep ft forgetting things and having to be reminded and admitting those things were true. even someone like sondland is thrown on the purge fires. the impression is of a president who is vindictive and sending a message to future potential whistle-blowers or people who are complying with legal subpoenas and telling congress information that they have, that he doesn't want that information
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to come out, even at the risk of perhaps losing a senate majority so long as it helps him get re-elected. >> that sentiment about the president -- the ambassador was talking about leaving his post after the senate trial. this is according to officials. trump was not interested in giving him a quiet departure and ended up firing him. what do you think he is trying to prove here? >> i think, maxine waters who was on your show earlier said it. i don't think we thought that the president wouldn't retaliate in some way. he has made it very clear he is doing that. he is signaling that especially in the case of sondland, that he serves the pleasure of the president and he is not the president's pleasure anymore. he is trying to project strength. i think as charlie said, it's interesting about the three or four senators who are trying to convince the president not to do it this way. i don't think that was because they had any illusions that the president wouldn't want to make sure people who are around him who are in positions of power
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around him agree with him. i think their question is, we are going to have to answer this question because we are running for re-election. susan collins put in a weird position of not voting to remove the president from office, two, saying she disagreed with what he did and it was unacceptable. she has to go back to maine with the reputation she has for going back and forth on these things and defend what she did as well as try to defend the president. he makes it harder for her to defend if he is removing people from their positions for purely political reasons. that being said, he can remove sondland for political reasons. >> absolutely. to your point about susan collins, she said, i think he learned a lesson from this, which remains to be seen. the actions of this week wouldn't necessarily indicate that. something the senators were saying is they wanted to reduce political backlash on this president. what kind of political backlash?
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is there any measurable backlash for this president? >> i don't know the political backlash is bad for trump. i think they are worries for themselves in a purple state in which a block of independent voters may be going to the polls with the impression that trump might get re-elected and they might want a senate that serves as something of a check and balance on his behavior. trump, i think, has emerged from impeachment thinking as long as he survived politically and is re-elected and as long as there's a -- at least a third plus one republican senator in the senate who will not remove him if there's another impeachment, that is better than anything else. he would, of course, rather that he keep the senate majority so he can keep his judges -- get judges through and so forth. the number one thing for him is to survive politically and more information that's bad about him that comes out from some future whistle-blower is the number one threat to that.
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he is thinking about his own interests, not their interests in getting re-elected in purple states. >> last question. in "the new york times" op-ed, a democratic senator wrote republicans admit they acquitted trump out of fear. they are worried about nicknames or tweets or trump might turn on them or the fox news hosts and turn them against them. is it clear having donald trump's support is a double-edged sword? >> i think for certain people in these purple states, it's hard to figure out which way they should go. they want to be seen as independent people. but in the end, we see how president trump is able to raise money for himself, for the republican party. do you want some of that ability to raise money to be taken away from you because the president is calling you names, because his supporters may not be your supporters anymore? this is what they were trying to weigh in terms of their impeachment removal votes. i think what we have seen is
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good day from msnbc world headquarters in new york. we have two days until the first in the nation primary. the race is up in the air, this according to the latest poll from new hampshire. presidential hopefuls looking for momentum before tuesday. let's take a listen. >> the truth is that our agenda is precisely the agenda that the overwhelming majority want. >> i hear people talk about the race against donald trump may be unwinnable. i have been winning unwinnable fights all of my life. >> the thing that changes this election is everybody in the democratic party is united on one thing, you have to beat donald trump. >> what we have seen this week is that unless the democratic party comes together and nominates somebody who can take down mr. trump on the economy, because he is so clearly running on the economy, then we won't win. >> if we're talking about a
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voter interested in progressive change, my message is that i would be the most progressive president we have had in a half century. >> i didn't attack pete. pete has been attacking me. we bailed out his city. i led the fight. the president turned to me and said, get detroit out of this mess. >> he says -- this is his quote, he is no barack obama. >> he is right, i'm not. neither is he. >> we can go on and have a historic victory in november of 2020. >> i think i can speak for all of the democratic candidates. that is, we will come together to defeat donald trump. >> the new hampshire primary and the fallout from the white house firings. in less than 48 hours, people in new hampshire can cast their votes. the candidates have been campaigning for months. it's all intensifying today. almost everyone on that ballot has an event scheduled for today. tom steyer is in south carolina. he will skip primary night in
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new hampshire on tuesday. many candidates are out talking to voters. andrew yang telling reporters he is not worried about getting a lot of delegates. >> with a majority, and so having delegates could be the situation that every candidate is in without having a majority. that could put us in position to help determine the next president. >> pete buttigieg speaking at a town hall which is still going on right now. it's his first stop of four across the state today. you have bernie sanders launching a canvas in plymouth. he will have two more town halls as well as a rally. amy klobuchar made her first stop of the day at a diner. let's head to manchester, new hampshire. i know you are following senator klobuchar on the trail after the multimillion dollar fund-raising haul this weekend. what about preparations for
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tuesday's primary? what is she doing? >> reporter: your timing this just right. if we do there correctly, she could come on stage in just a few minutes. let me talk you through a little of the strategy while we wait for her to get on stage. they are looking to capitalize on the debate performance. we know they raised $2.5 plus million dollars since she had the strong debate performance. they are looking to bound off of that. we have seen tracking polls that have seen her ticking up by a few points. the real proof will be on tuesday night, if she can do well and outperform her expectations. i sort of tried -- we see candidates set expectation metrics. i asked her when i talked with her yesterday, what is a good night for you? is it winning outright? that's the best case scenario. is it beating joe biden? she said she wasn't going to late out a specific metric. they seem to be feeling a little momentum here on the ground. i will just tell you from the time that i started covering her events several months ago to
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now, you can see in the room around me it's crowded in here. we have seen more and more people showing up for her. i think there's two things that stand out to me. first is that in a poll out this morning, 39% of people say they are decided. reminds me of what i was seeing in iowa where a lot of people said they were waiting until the last minute to make a decision. i imagine if we start talking to voters right now, we will hear a lot of the same things from them, trying to make a last minute decision, to see who they think is the best person positioned to beat donald trump. the other thing is that if am yy klobuchar is able to come out of new hampshire and bound into the next states, she will hit a point, there are other campaigns who have been building out for longer and more staff on the ground. new hampshire is the first hurdle. we have a long calendar to go. >> i will mark this day. you did not have to modulate your voice. we will go to hanover right now.
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another welcome to you on this sunday, shaq. lots of in fighting during this party this week. does the sanders campaign think that this escalating feud -- it's what i called it. i know it's part of politics. it's between biden and buttigieg. does it help his chances, we are talking about >> reporter: they like the fact that mayor pete is under attack. you have the video from vice-president biden. that's because if you look at the polls, including the cbs poll, it's senator sanders at the top and right under is mayor buttigieg. if they are going after mayor pete, they are doing work for senator sanders. we see the attack he launched after the iowa caucuses saying
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that mayor pete is receiving a lot of donations from billionaires, he is the billionaire class favorite. we are seeing that repeated over and over again here in new hampshire. senator sanders at a stop in plymouth, he was with supporters and he was doing a canvas launch. among his supporters, he contrasted himself with mayor pete saying that he is closing in on 7 million individual contributions from averaging $18 a pop and from 1.5 million people. he is setting up that contrast. senator sanders is saying you are with the working class or taking the money of the establishment, of the millionaires, of the wealthy. one thing about senator sanders is he is take a more reflective tone. one thing we have seen his family out with him, his grandkids. he makes a point to mention his grandkids and children with him on the campaign trail. he is thanking the people of new hampshire for the win they gave him in 2016. that win he also feels good will -- that win that he got in
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2016 he thinks will help him and power him through. he feels like he has a base of support. he is a neighboring senator. he feels good about his chances here in new hampshire. he believes that based on the results he had in iowa and if that continues to what we have here in new hampshire, he believes that can help him throughout the rest of the primary process. >> the wind seems to be in his sails. stay with msnbc today. we will have live coverage from new hampshire all day long for you. chris jansing will pick up for me at 2:00 eastern. she wants your company. we invite you to be part of her live audience. plenty of room, don't hesitate to go. after chris, alicia menendez at 4:00 p.m. president trump is scheduled to hold a rally hours before the primary in new hampshire.
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let's go to hans nichols joining us from the white house. this is a pretty unusual thing to do, for an incumbent president running unopposed, why is he doing this on the eve of the primary? >> reporter: the white house thinks new hampshire is in play for the general election. you look where the president is traveling, where air force one touches down, that gives you a strong sense where the white house thinks they might -- i stress might be able to go on offense. new hampshire they lost by 2,700 votes last time. four electoral college votes there. i was with him in north carolina. they want to make sure north carolina is put away. next week, where does he head? out to colorado for a rally in a republican part of the state, colorado springs. at this stage of the campaign, the white house isn't feeling any pressure from any republican challengers. there's no real serious challenge. there's joe walsh, but he dropped out. they see an open playing field,
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a chess board they can essentially control both with the president's travel and also with the re-election money, they are sitting on a ton of cash. they are waiting to see where they can spend it. one addendum. one thing interesting to see where the president traveling is does he go to senate states where republican senators face tough re-elections? to what extent does he spend time in pennsylvania? he has been there a lot. especially western pennsylvania. and then michigan and wisconsin. that will give you a sense where the white house and his political team thinks the president is. >> hans nichols making sense of it all. thank you for that. joining me now, jeff mason, white house correspondent and betsy woodruff swan. welcome to you both. jeff, first here, what do you make of the president's scheduled rally tomorrow night? what's the strategy from what you are hearing? i know hans outlined a lot of it. what do you have to say? >> i think hans is right, that
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new hampshire is a state that the president and his team want to win in the general election. i think that the president's campaign has shown that by going in and doing these rallies, be it in new hampshire or iowa or any other places that he is going, they also have a chance to get data on the people who are coming to those rallies so that they can add them to their campaign lists, keep in touch, keep using them as potential fund-raising vehicles. there's a lot there that benefits the president by holding these rallies. not to mention on top of that, your earlier question was, why do it on the eve of the primary election? it draws attention. it draws some attention. it gives a contrast to the democrats who are there and brings the president to the mix. >> he did that, right, with joe biden once before. didn't they have dueling rallies for that reason? >> i'm sure he did. i can't remember which one you are thinking of. that's part of the playbook, for sure. he went to iowa and had a rally there just right before the
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caucuses. this is just step two with the second voting state. >> of course, timing-wise, it comes on the heels of the president's acquittal followed by the firings of the two impeachment witnesses, that includes the eu ambassador gordon sondland. you are reporting sondland knew he was on his way out. this was not a surprise to him. why did he wait for the president to fire him? >> that's right. i couldn't get into his head, for instance, and tell you why exactly he made the decision that he made here. one thing we know is that he has felt really honored to be serving as ambassador to the european union. it's a job that he has taken seriously, even though it has had moments and lengthy episodes that have been very troubled to put it diplomatically. this is a job he has relish and valued. first, it's not a surprise the president has forced him out. second, it's not surprising that he would want to stay for as long as he is able to hold that
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post. serving as eu ambassador puts you in a unique position as far as senior american diplomats are concerned. you are right at the beating heart of the european union, dozens of countries that come together in this extraordinary place that is brussels to hammer out really complex and messy diplomatic questions and the fact, of course, that the uk officially and finally pulled out of the european union gave him an important project to work on, especially from the american perspective. >> is that what backed up the state department official who told you the ouster was more concerning than vindman's? >> there's been a lot of frustration and anxiety about the withdrawal of these folks, specifically looking at sondland's departure. people saw him as someone who -- to put it bluntly -- was a political appointee, someone who
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the president hand picked for that position because he saw him as a political ally and who is being punished solely because despite having given a million dollars to support the president, despite that, is being punished solely because he complied with the congressional subpoena. that sends a chilling message, not only to career diplomats, many of whom feel like they are on notice if they cross their -- the politicals above them in the chain of command, but political diplomats that this say president who will not have qualms about pulling back people who follow the law if he feels they do it in a way problematic for him. >> i wonder if it might put a diminishing affect on those who donate to him. a million dollars from sondland was an awful lot of money to have the end result be this. what about more firings? is the white house signaling there are more to come? are they in the mode, we're are past this? >> well, that's a good question. i don't really know the answer. i think the white house, at
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least last week, wasn't commenting on the fires of vindman or sondland. i think that the signal that the president is sending is that this could keep going. the fact that he did that just days after the end of his impeachment and the fact that there were others who were -- who testified or did things that he disagreed with during that process means that if this is retaliation -- it certainly looks like it -- it may not be over. >> okay. lady and gent, thank you so much. good to see you both. it's a question many democratic voters are asking. who can beat president trump? is electability the only issue? e if you've been dreaming about tender wild-caught lobster, dig in to butter-poached, fire-roasted and shrimp & lobster linguini. see? dreams do come true. or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home, try lobster, sautéed with crab, jumbo shrimp and more,
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the verdict from voters is going to start coming in for democrats tuesday night in new hampshire. one of the burning questions, which candidate can defeat donald trump? >> now, there are a lot of people right now who are worried that this fight against donald trump may not be winnable. but i have been winning unwinnable fights pretty much all my life. >> we should only nominate someone who can kick his [ bleep ] on the economy. and i can do it. and we've gotta put together this fantastic, diverse party. and i can do it. >> i will be damned if i will stand by and lose this election to this man. we cannot let it happen.
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we cannot let it happen. the character of this country is on the ballot. we must defeat donald trump. >> joining me now, former democratic congressman katie hill from california. and adrian elrod, former senior adviser to the hillary clinton campaign. let's go to you, katie. realistically, do democrats believe any one of the candidates can defeat donald trump, especially after this post-iowa muddled picture? >> listen, i think everyone is concerned. this is the fear, this is the thing that is consuming so many democrats' attention. we have to beat donald trump. what i would urge everybody to be thinking about is that no matter who the nominee is, we have to rally behind them and we have to have the utmost faith that they can and they will beat donald trump. if we give up hope, if we say, this isn't the nominee i wanted, everything is lost, trump is going to win, then he is going to win. we need to start coming to terms
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with of that list of people who remain, even if you don't like them, how are you going to be able to kind of start to support them and rally behind them? >> you gotta look at the stats. part includes job approval. that was up this past week to 49%. he hard sells what he says is a strong economy. he was able to wave around newspaper headlines. what does this all add up to? >> well, alex, 49% is not a good position to be in in terms of approval ratings. you want your ratings to be higher than that. democrats are acknowledging, this is going to be a tough fight. this is not a for sure win by any stretch. to the point the congresswoman made, i think any of the people who are front-runners can beat donald trump for sure. many of them will have different paths to victory. many of them will be able to build different coalitions. every single front-runner in the democratic primary will be able
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to beat donald trump. the question becomes, who is that person? who do we rally behind? sanders, for example, i do believe that he can beat donald trump because he can build a very unique and diverse coalition of young voters, diverse voters. then he can go back to some of the working class voters we lost in 2016 and possibly bring them back to our side. klobuch klobuchar, mayor pete, there are different ways the front-runners can build a coalition against trump. it's going to be hard. we all have to be united. >> with regard to sanders specifically, katie, the president has been throwing around the socialist label. here is how he reacted to that today. >> the difference between my socialism and trump's socialism is i believe that government should help working families, not billionaires. >> gauge that for effective com? >> i don't know how much the
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socialist label is going to matter. people have decided one way or the other if that's the thing that's going to determine their vote or not. here is the thing that i will note. i think people need to pay more attention to this. the people who flipped congressional districts have started to endorse. the only people that i have noticed that they have endorsed are biden and bloomberg. they are the most in tune with their individual districts, of 700,000 people. 40 flipped congressional districts. they have a good sense of the voters in their district and what they are concerned about and what they think will be able to move them to not vote for trump and to vote for the democratic nominee instead. i think that's noteworthy and something people should pay attention to. >> i want do quick hits. we were talking about sanders. how do you see sanders/trump matchup. . >> you have a lot of democrats who have been put off by the
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sa -- the fight against hillary clinton, i think rebuilding that trust and unity within the party is going to be especially hard on t unifying that faction is going to be the most difficult thing as we come out of the convention. >> give me biden/trump, how does that match up? >> if he can get through the primary, he will be one of the most effective candidates we can play against donald trump. for many, many reasons. people trust him. he has durability in the polls. african-american voters in particular are still sticking with him, even though he has taken a dip in the polls. joe biden's biggest challenge is
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the next few weeks. can he get a top three finish in new hampshire? can he get a top two finish in nevada? can he win south carolina? if he can accomplish all of those things, i think he can go into super tuesday with momentum. that's his biggest challenge. >> buttigieg/trump. >> more is that there's now been this divide. i don't think we can afford to lose a single democratic vote. we will have to get other people -- we have to focus on independents. making sure every democratic contender that is not the ultimate nominee has to come out and support the one who is. i hope that they can be committed to that. >> they said they were. you heard that in the debate. they committed to doing that. what about warren/trump? you remember well that she was a strong surrogate for hillary in 2016. >> she was. she's amazing. somebody else who would be very formidable against the president. the thing about warren that
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she's always distinguishing herself against sanders is that she is a capitalist. i think that she is very good at moderating her positions, which she would have to do, and so would sanders if they were the nominees going into the general election. she's proven she can -- she's malleable and can adapt. she made it clear she's going to give medicare for all a good hard attempt if she becomes the president. after a few months, if she can't get this passed, especially if mcconnell is the majority leader, she will move on and do what she can to fix obamacare. she has so much enthusiasm on her side. if she can get through the primary, she would be an outstanding candidate. >> despite my being out of time, given what you were saying about mike bloomberg, match up those two, bloomberg and trump. >> money is going to be an issue in any of the races. i think that the fact that bloomberg seems to have an unlimited supply is pretty helpful. i think that's going to be
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something that we should look at. i will support and i think that truly any of the candidates can beat donald trump. some of us are going to not be as excited. at this point, it's our democracy on the line. we will have to do it. >> katie and adrian, i will have to have you back. it's something i will have to do. thank you. as buttigieg moves into one of the top spots in the race, how it is magnifying his potential weaknesses with minority voters. potential weaknesses with minority voters. when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one.
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pete buttigieg is heading into tuesday's contest at a front-runner. he is phasing questions as his record with african-americans comes under scrutiny. >> when you start peeling back some of the layers here, there is some questionable things on your record, particularly in your dealings with the african-american community. >> well, our story and the story of our city is that of a city facing tremendous challenges. when you are a mayor, you don't just get to opine on things or call for things to change, you have to roll your sleeves up and do them. i will stack up my record against anybody else who is running for president, all of whom are implicated in the realities that our country
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faces, especially when it comes to racial and economic inequality. >> joining me is haze brown, reporter with buzzfeed news. welcome to you. what is the perception of buttigieg with respect to race versus the reality of it? is it all the same? >> i think that pete buttigieg has struggled with this idea that he is not connected to black voters especially. he has trouble making that jump from having support of college-educated white voters to minority support as well. part is because of -- when you are a small town mayor in a rust belt community in the midwest, it's hard -- no matter how smart you are, committed to change, it's hard to make those structural shifts necessary to actually improve the lives of the minority communities. i spent my teen years in flint, michigan. watching mayor after mayor to make it so there's more economic
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equality, more opportunity for a community where a lot of the white people who fled to the suburbs are not really contributing anymore to the city itself. if you are pete buttigieg, you have a record of having a lot of good ideas but implementing them and doing so in a way that actually brings -- raises up the minorities within your community is extremely difficult. as we go into south carolina where biden has had the lead in terms of black support but is looking squishier as sanders and bloomberg -- tom steyer, start to spend more money and time there, buttigieg has a narrowing window of opportunity to make that case. >> we have a ways to go to south carolina. tom steyer is in second place. what about joe biden who has been hitting buttigieg over his record and his experience this weekend? now today he is suppressing the importance of african-american support. let's take a listen to that. >> look, i know corruption. >> i'm sorry, that's not the
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tape we were looking for. you know what we are talking about. is biden right? if so, what does it look like for the november matchup, if it ends up being buttigieg against donald trump? >> i think that it won't have too much of an affect. the biggest affect would be to potentially suppress black turnout, which you really need a strong wave of black turnout in this race. in 2016, if you look at pennsylvania, philly area, the people who didn't turn out to vote could have swayed pennsylvania into the hillary clinton camp. if you are pete buttigieg, you are working as hard as you can to make sure that everyone who could possibly turn out to vote for you does so. biden, like i said, his support among african-americans has been tied to his time in the obama administration. it has been about who can best beat donald trump in a general election. as things look a little bit more wobbly, that support is shifting.
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>> can i ask you about the obama factor? i'm sure white obama is trending. biden has said that buttigieg is no barack obama. what do you make of these obama comparisons? >> i think that people are feeling nostalgic for the obama years. i think people really want someone who can come in and make them feel good about politics. they want someone who they believe can actually come in and push the system the way obama ran on 2008. people are vying for that mantle right now, whether you are a moderate who is trying to say i can bring together people, i can unify the country like obama, whether you go after the minority vote or looking at progressives and say, barack obama was a true change election candidate in 2008. i am picking up that mantle. everyone wants to be obama. it's not clear who actually would govern the way that he did or even if that's what
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democratic voters want in 2020 compared to 2008. >> i have to tell you, i share a lot of how much people miss barack obama. thank you so much. let's go to a new poll from cbs news conducted by ugov. it shows sanders is on top with 29% in that poll. pete buttigieg in second with 25%. joining me now, larry sabato, director of the university of virginia center for politics. let's get to your crystal ball. what's it telling you about tuesday's primary? >> it's telling me somebody will win it. >> come on now. >> one of the top candidates. look, if you are looking at the polls, there have been four or five just in the last 72 hours that have the same thing, had is bernie sanders on top by a few points, buttigieg second, a few points below him. there's a little disagreement about biden and warren. but they are well back. klobuchar should be mentioned.
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she's the only one showing an uptick. it's an uptick to high single digits. but she's on the way up. new hampshire, if you look at it over the years, there are a fair number of surprises that happened right at the end. they have only got eight days after iowa. they really focus on it during those eight days. i don't think people should close the book just because a bunch of polls say x is going to win and y is going to place second. >> you mentioned the last go around in which sanders absolutely beat hillary clinton by a lot, by 20 points. if he wins on tuesday with a smaller margin, does that have a negative pallor to it? >> his opponents will say so. they will use that as a talking point. he won but that wasn't an impressive win. on the other hand, winning is winning is winning is winning. you will take that win. he will take it and he will have tied in iowa and won in new
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hampshire if that happens. you know, i gotta mention this. this is not going to be like prior races. democrats have caught on to the fact that iowa is 91% white and new hampshire is 93% white. the democratic coalition depends heavily on african-americans, hispanics and other minorities. i think people are going to be patient. they will wait for nevada, they will wait for south carolina. they are going to wait for super tuesday on march 3. >> i think you are right there. what about the monmouth university poll which shows 55% of new hampshire democrats say beating president trump is more important, 29% say beating trump is just as important as top policy issues? electability, how much will that factor? ? . >> less than people think. it's a reasonable think to consider. here is the problem with it. it tends to be correlated strongly with your personal
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candidate choice. you pick x. like her because she believes in this. then you say, i believe that so and so can win. you believe that that candidate can win because they agree with you on the policies. i just don't put much stock in questions like that. it's fun but it doesn't tell you much. >> can i ask you, do you put stock in the bloomberg campaign in terms of electability? do you think he can win? >> can he? after donald trump won, i said i would never rule anybody out of anything ever again. if donald trump can win the presidency, anybody can win the presidency. yes, he can win. it's funny, yesterday i had to stay in the entire day. i had the tv on, news channels on in the background. do you know that i saw over 30 bloomberg ads in virginia? >> yeah. i believe it. >> zero for all other candidates
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combined. there's a good reason we don't vote until march 3. it tells you something. it tells you something. >> it sure does. i have seen a lot of bloomberg ads. thank you so much. for new hampshire coverage of the primary and the election returns, our coverage begins tuesday at 6:00 eastern for you. what james carville said about a critical move the democratic party needs to make. e. cut. liberty biberty- cut. we'll dub it. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ i have moderate to severe pnow, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are getting clearer, yeah i feel free ♪ ♪ to bare my skin ♪ yeah that's all me. ♪ nothing and me go hand in hand ♪ ♪ nothing on my skin ♪ that's my new plan. ♪ nothing is everything. keep your skin clearer with skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months.
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we have a longtime message from a longtime democratic strategist. it's a stark one ahead of tuesday's vote in the nation primary. let's take a listen. >> 55% of the people in this country don't want donald trump to be president. it's up to the democratic party to provide that nominee that fills in that 55%. he got 44.8% in 2018. he suffered the worst electoral defeat in the house ever. it was the highest turnout against him since women were granted the right to vote. his polling average is 43.2%. yet, the media is going, he is so strong, he is so powerful. no, he is not. what the problem here is the democratic party. >> nobody can ever not listen when james carville starts to speak. he is like a lightning rod in terms of your focus. he had strong words for the democratic party.
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tell us what you got from that conversation. >> reporter: he certainly let it rip. he had words for the democratic party and for the media. the president says over and over he is the strongest and the best and the best economy ever, james carville is saying, it's not. stop letting the president have the narrative and what democrats need to do is get practical. stop having all these ideological disputes between one another, specifically moderates going after one another and start paying attention to the american people. he said as far as the american people are concerned, this race isn't over, it's just getting started. they're not on twitter. they are living their lives, pay attention to that. listen to this. >> media consumption, the average person we found spends four minutes and 30 seconds a day thinking about politics. when their mind is open, we are going to be talking about the quality of schools, cost of prescription drugs, about the nature of -- we will talk about
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giving health insurance to illegals, talk about giving tickets on the border, talk about having terrorists vote from jail. i think that's a stupid plan. i like plan "a," when we get four minutes, we are on top of th things about school, about health, about medicare, about social security, about climate. >> reporter: he is saying, stop taking the bait and having conversations about the ones you heard. he said, start talking about health care and things that matter to people. he clearly is representing what he thinks is the more moderate portion of the democratic party, the more moderates who he thinks have a better chance of defeating donald trump. what has him so fired up is to see a vice-president joe biden and a pete buttigieg going after one another saying, listen, if moderates keep fighting like this, do you know what they will do? make a clean lane for sanders to run away with it. he doesn't think sanders can win
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in a general. >> you are spot on with that assessment. it's what he was communicating and i think you are reflecting of what a lot of people are saying. we will see. it's up to the voters. enjoy new hampshire. safe travels. thanks so much. it's hollywood's biggest night, the predictions for who ends up with an oscar. get your ballots ready.
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this year is like another no-host show, which is like having a trial without witnesses. >> i've never heard of such a thing. >> it moves faster but it's not quite the result that you want. >> that was good. that was nine-time oscar host billy crystal talking about jimmy kimmel about the 92nd oscars. preparations are going on right now. joining us to talk oscar picks is nomnick patton. i want everyone to get their oscar ballots ready. your pick first of all for leading actor? who do you have? >> i think almost ten years after the joker won for best
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supporting actor, joaquin phoenix is going to take this one for the build grossing the joker. batman is going to be top billing tonight. >> he was extraordinary. i think you're 100% right. how about best supporting actor? >> i think it has to go to the man who has had the best speeches this awards season, mr. brad bit for "once upon a time in hollywood." this is a success one for him. >> didn't you love it after the golden globes or maybe s.a.g. when he said he was going to is have to put this out on tinder? that was hilarious. >> and how he keeps doing this so he doesn't have to end up in oceans 14. >> exactly. leading actress, who do you have? >> i think it's going to be -- and i think we saw this yesterday at the independent spirit awards, rene zellweger for her performance in juddy. >> i thought it was a good film but i thought she was
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outstanding. >> totally. and inhibited the role in every single way, fantastic. >> best supporting actress? >> i think we're going to see -- and a lot of these i'll say this is going to be lighten climatic, because the gild awards and many others have put the groundwork out for this. it's going to be laura dern for netflix's "marriage story". you saw her win yesterday. this is her year. >> it is, but wait a minute, where would sinthey reeveo land? she was a best supporting actress or leading actress nom snooe? >> leading for her performance in "harriet" which deals with harriet tubman. if she wins she will become an egot, emmy, coscar, tony and oscar. >> director, who do you have? >> i think it's going to be sam
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mendez for 1917. i think he's had a great run. a movie i hope a lot more people get to see, for its continuous one-shot motif but something that gives us another per sfeke specktive on the horrors of war. >> i loved it. finally best picture? >> going to be -- now, there is a little bit of drama here. 1917 has been doing very well, but i believe it's going to be the korean satire, i think this film is magnificent. another big winner at the independent spirit awards. i want to say, my beloved aunt june who died just a week or so ago was born and grew up during the entire academy awards. this will be the first where she has not been alive. movies were such a big part of here life, and they're such a big part of so many people's lives. tonight is where we celebrate the best and excellence of story telling. if you think you're going to be
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a winner, think about all the hard work that so many people have put into these projects, the stories they tell, and how important even today they still are to us all. >> a great point you make there. i'm sorry about your aunt june. i'm sure she loved you. thank you so much, dominic patton. that's a wrap for me. thanks for watching. my colleague chris jansing is next up. why bernie sanders self pro clooichld iowa vibctory could b in jeopardy. ibctory could be in jeopardy. ery night. nyquil severe. the nightime, sniffling, sneezing, coughing, aching, stuffy head, best sleep with a cold, medicine.
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well, hello, welcome. i'm chris jansing live in manchester, new hampshire. this is the center of the political universe, people 37 with just two days to go before the first in thenation primary. how are we feeling today? >> clpz cl >>. [ cheers and applause ] >> you can't go anywhere here without bumping into someone running for president. ten are here, they're holding 31 separate events today, from littleton to hudson. bernie sanders and andrew yang just w