well, hello, welcome. i'm chris jansing live in manchester, new hampshire. this is the center of the political universe, people 37 with just two days to go before the first in thenation primary. how are we feeling today? >> clpz cl >>. [ cheers and applause ] >> you can't go anywhere here without bumping into someone running for president. ten are here, they're holding 31 separate events today, from littleton to hudson. bernie sanders and andrew yang just wrapped up.

amy klobuchar is not far from here. pete buttigieg in dover, his second in four today. we've got our road warriors fanned out across the state. first a new boston globe tracking pole has this race in a statistical dead heat. beaut buttigieg just two points behind bernie sanders, he remains on top. and if you need any further proof that the dynamic is changing, look no further than the sunday morning shows. buttigieg appearing on all five major shows, sanders on four of them including back-to-back appearances on "meet the press." >> it's about our vision. i have a vision for this country that is about moving us forward. it's about ensuring that we draw together the energies of democrats and independents and even some republicans who want to cross over. one thing we have learned is that money alone can't buy elections or ross perot would be the president of the united states right now.

>> the fund a. issue, the reason we have income inequality, only major country on to guarantee health care to all, almost all new income and wealth goes to the top 1% which is because it goes to the corrupt business system. >> so here's what we're watching that's new. pete buttigieg continuing to find that the with the front-runner status comes a target on your back, facing attacks from at least three other candidates including this new attack ad from joe biden. >> barack fwoem called joe biden. >> the best vice president america has ever had. >> but pete buttigieg doesn't think much. when president obama called on him joe biden helped lead the pass age of the affordable care act which gave health care to others. pete buttigieg installed decorative lights giving south bend colorfully ilum nated

rivers. >> nbc road warrior vaughn hillyard has been following this and joins us now. what's buttigieg saying to fight back? >> reporter: we should note that we just left the campaign event, chris, with him just down the road in which there were more than one thousand votes who showed up to a middle school jim naizium in nashua here. this is the first of five stops today. he's played it a point not to get distracted. he held a press conference yesterday in which he questioned the readiness to be president. he was asked about this at that rally a few minutes ago down the road. i'll let you take a listen to his response. >> it's the heat of competition. throwing elbows, making contrasts. although i would argue that this has been more than people are

saying, a substantive debate. and we are having respectful, honest disagreements about our approach. of course i believe my campaign's ra approach is the best one. i believe i'd be the best nominee to defeat donald trump and i believe my vision for the country is the best. but there is going to come a day where out of the 25 people who jumped into this race for president, approximately 24 are not going to be the nominee. and so much depends on making sure we rally around the one who does. because we know what we're going to be up against in nevada. it cannot be each other. we've got to unify and get to work right away. >> reporter: there are more than 4 thurn hundred thousand registered independents in the state that have the opportunity to take place in tuesday's primary in new hampshire. buttigieg's message that worked in iowa, which was not only bring democrats but dpints and republicans on board and based o off that answer that you just heard, this is a campaign that feels good about itself.

they have turned biden's attack on its head. nashua is a town of 95,000, just a little smaller than south bend, yind. i'm going to read you part of a statement that was released yesterday saying, washington politics trivial liesed what goes on in south bend, they have better jobs. don't think their lives are a washington politician's punch line. the vice president's decision to run this add speaks more to where he stands than about pete's perspective as a mayor and veteran. you'll notice that the polling that you showed, it looks like it's bernie sanders and pete buttigieg. the question is how much does that pro tell pete buttigieg going forward depending on the result tuesday night. >> key question. thank you so much for that. joe biden is defending that ad against buttigieg by invoking former president barack obama.

mike memli is in hampton new hampshire with the biden campaign. it wasn't just mayor pete, but some other small city mayors that came out and said, not fair, not good, you're using us as a punch line. now what's biden saying back? >> reporter: well, it's so interesting because over the last month, two months even before the iowa caucuses, joe biden was on the campaign trail making an implicit contrast between his record of long experience on the world stage with what he said was the worry that he had about on-the-job training for some of the other candidates. since that disappointing finish in iowa he's been more explicit. it seems like each day he ratcheted up the heat on mayor pete. you saw it in his video on the campaign trail yesterday. biden just finished speaking here. we're on the rope line where he spent a lot of time shaking hands. there were no longer any attacks on pete buttigieg and his

record. he told voters here all the candidates agree on the need to replace donald trump. he's explaining those attacks on the sunday shows. let's take a listen to what he told george stephanopoulos this morning. >> let's get something straight here. i didn't attack pete. pete has been attacking me. he says the reason we're in the way we are now is because of the recent past. that's eight years of obama and me. i don't get that, i don't understand that. >> reporter: the biden campaign is sticking by that video. and they're saying he was not diminishing the role the mayor plays. he's said mayor is a difficult job. biden is defending the attack and insisting he's in this for the long-haul. he told voters he was out, he may take another hit, but it's important for the nominee to attract african-american votes. he's received endorsements even with setbacks. >> mike memoli, thank you for

that. we have got a lot to talk about and a fantastic panel. neal levic is at st. ansome college, maria teresa kumar, and rene graham, boston globe contributor. neal, you know your state, whoever started it, and they seem to be going back and forth on that, this is being played like do or die. and arguably this could be do or die. how do you see the state of the rice right now? >> the interesting thing is this pete buttigieg enthusiasm has been going on here for months, and it's been missed by the national media but also by the biden campaign. now they seem after iowa surprised by this. there's a shake nup his own campaign. he's running the negative ad. this is not a one-on-one race, so he may attack buttigieg and may take some votes away but they may go to klobuchar. so it's not a full proof system.

>> does it come off as clever and tough or desperate? >> i think for some the juxtaposition is funny. but we forget the important role that mayors do play when washington, d.c. is stuck. a lot of the legislation that is becoming a model for the rest of the country is actually happening at the state level. >> agreed, but how does this play to voters, i guess, is the question? >> i think it's -- this is the challenge. when i was in iowa i was speaking to voters who loved joe biden but they were taking a second look. they were going to vote for pete or amy. what you're saying is right, just because -- the windfall, just joe biden get the windfall? i don't think that's the case. i think the person will be in this case, they will go for amy. i think when you look at -- we keep talking about this as a toe-to-toe between bernie sanders and pete buttigieg, let's remind ourselves that in february there's going to 150

delegates decided. by march, you're talking about 1700 delegates. the game is still really new. i would not count the person even in third or fourth place out. >> except as well know, rene, that no one who has finished third or fourth in new hampshire has every gone on to win the nomination. we've got a clash of campaignsu campaigns. where do you see the race as someone who's been watching it so closely? >> i agree with what maria teresa said, where iowa and new hampshire aren't necessarily the best look of what this race is going to be going forward. i think we're going to have a better sense ever that in south carolina and nevada where the voters will better reflect the democratic party. i think that's what joe biden is banking on. i think something else he's banking on is showing people that he's really still in this thing and really willing to swing high and hard and his campaign is not running out of team. >> yeah, he's been taking aim too at pete buttigieg's résume,

what they consider to be thin, which is the premise of that add joking about the lights on the water or whatever. take a listen to what he had to say. >> hillary clinton said barack obama, you don't have the experience to be president. he went on to the president. is this a act of desperation on your -- >> oh, come on, man. this guy is not a barack obama. barack obama had been a united states senator of a really large state, had laid out a clear vision what he thought the international community should look like and what the order should be. >> tell me how experience is playing here. because you just said that the national media has been missing the fact that buttigieg has kind of been on fire here for awhile. do they think his kind of experience is what they're looking for? is it another case of franksly on the other side people voted for donald trump specifically because he wasn't a washington insider. >> absolutely. we've seen this for years where

all of a sudden the washington person starts attacking another candidate because they're from the outside. it's almost like a free advertisement. the fact is that biden is about to the probably beaten by a guy who is the mayor of south bend, indiana. he's the former vice president of the united states. >> yeah, can we just stop for a minute and consider what you just said. that the mayor of a small city may be the guy who for over a year was the presumed nominee, essentially, before the first vote was cast? >> absolutely and he presumed it and his campaign did, so they didn't campaign in a way that really showed the voters that they wanted it. and so mike memoli who was just on had made the point that for a month and a half, joe biden didn't take a question from a reporter in the state of new hampshire. that's tough. and that shows an underestmation of his opponents. >> i also thought it was interesting that while you had bernie and pete everywhere today

on the sunday shows and their big audience, which is not just about here but going forward, you had one prerecorded not live interview by joe biden. and you -- that gave an opportunity frankly for peetd buttigieg to go out and defend his experience and electability. i want to play just a little bit of that. >> the way to beat donald trump is certainly ton rely on the familiar playbook. >> he's right. i'm not barack obama. and neither is he. neither is anyone running for president right now. and this isn't 2008. it's 2020, and this election is about where our country is headed next and of course how to defeat donald trump. being the mayor of south bend, indiana is not an establishment powerhouse. we're here because this message, this vision, is connecting with voters of all backgrounds. >> has he found the answer to this question? >> i think -- >> that he is being asked? >> i think this is the biggest challenge. foeshz recently did a poll among

young voters, do you like pete? they were like, eh. they really liked bernie sanders. this is important, in the 2018 election for the first time young voters outperformed baby boomers. for the first time in 2020 you're going to see 12 million more than baby boomers. when pete is not resonating among a potential voter that is how we're going to win. the majority of democrats are going to cast a ballot, but how do you increase that marketplace that says, you're going to motivate me enough to get out? we're counting the women out but we shouldn't. the reason we had massive protests, the reason we saw a revolution in congress was because you had women at the top of the ticket across the states last in the midterm elections, and we keep talking about elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar as if they're out. but continue looking at south carolina, nevada, when the rest of the voters reflect the country that people are seeking

for the white house. >> and i think as volatile as this race is and the number of people not registered to one party or another, one thing that has not changed for the democrats is that what they want is someone who can beat donald trump, right? that's right oat the top of ther list. this brings me to this fascinating daily tracking poll that shows bernie sanders is now consistently beating biden on the electability question. what do you make of that? >> look, i think the whole idea of elictibility should have been thrown out after 2016. we heard continually that donald trump could not possibly win the presidency, the nomination, and he did win. the whole idea of what electability means in 2020 is useless. you know, i think bernie sanders can be the nominee. i also do think elizabeth warren could be the nominee. and it's frustrating how much this becomes a 3man race. and that is the way people keep talking about this. i think it's wide open. we're not going have a better

sense of what's happening until we get in states that are more diverse. pete buttigieg may do very well in new hampshire, but there's a big question mark on how he'll do in south carolina and nevada. i think it's a mistake to hand this race to any one candidate and kouchbtd out candidates like elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar who have shown quite a bit of staying power. >> you know who else agrees with you? mike bloomberg. we'll talk more about that coming up. my panel will stick with me. we're just getting started. coming up, we'll be live with bernie sanders' campaign as he makes his pitch ahead of tuesday's primary. even as some grow more concerned he might actually win this whole thing. [ applause ] ttress brands. now through february 24th. score extra savings on mattresses from tempurpedic, serta, beautyrest and sealy, starting at just $399!

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our campaign is off to a great start. as i think many of you know, we won the popular vote in iowa by 6,000 votes. [ cheers and applause ] we won the realignment vote by 2500 votes. [ cheers and applause ] and with your help, we're going to win here on tuesday in the first primary of the country right here in new hampshire. [ applause ] >> and we are back live in manchester, new hampshire. that was berneer saurnds earlier

today, a little more subdued than we're used to seeing, but he's trying to make the most of his iowa momentum with appearances on four of the sunday morning shows ahead of tuesday's primary here in new hampshire. joining me now nbc news road warrior shaq brewster in hanover. bernie has been here before challenging the establishment candidate, feisty and fired up. how does he take it this time and get across the finish line? there was so much disappointment, som knchz within and without the campaign about whether or not the deck had been stacked against him. how is he and the campaign working on this right now? >> reporter: it's about continuing on that momentum that he's seeing. he's here in hanover. he's on staichlk. he addressed an overflow crowd that was behind me, backed outside of the ballroom. he told them we need a large voter turnout on tuesday.

part of driving that turnout and one lesson that he perhaps drew from 2016 is the importance of a ground game. it was in plymouth where his first campaign stop today, he brought his state director on, and he said they hit 150,000 doors. that averages four doors a second they're knocking on here in the state of new hampshire. you're seeing him increase the let on mayor pete. listen you to what he told his supporters just a couple of hours ago. >> my friend, pete buttigieg, has received -- no, no, we're not here to dengate pete. he's running a good campaign. but our views are different. pete has raised campaign contributions from over 40 billionaires. now, i was on a show this morning, a tv show, somebody says does it really matter where you get your money from? of course it matters. [ cheers and applause ] >> and to only highlight that

contrast, senator sanders says his campaign is closing in on 7 million individual contributions. that is a monster number. i'll tell you the campaign feels really good about where they are right now. not only did he come into new hampshire leading in the average of polls, but they continue to show him ahead of mayor pete. mayor pete is fighting for that first place information positio. senator sanders joining in attacks. they believe in mayor pete is under fire that helps senator sanders keep the lead here in new hampshire. >> you mentioned the overflow crowd. do you have a crowd estimate yet? and how does this compare to other crowds you've seen here in new hampshire? >> reporter: no crowd estimate for this event now. they did count, and i'll try to track that down for you. they have a full ballroom to my right, and then to my left there's another ballroom that's overflowed they're watching

livestreamed. you saw people come behind me and senator sanders talk to them. he said the good nutz is here we have an overflow. the bad news is you are in the overflow. that's something he is seeing a lot of here in new hampshire. >> shaq brewster, thank you 1067. neal levic, plaria teresa graham, and rene. four doors a second? did new hampshire vote -- are you guys tired of people knocking on your doors? or if -- clap if you like it. [ applause ] >> i think it is different in different parts of the country. >> it is. >> other than manhattan, you knock on my door, i think something bad is happening. but in this -- that's a new york joke. they got it. i appreciate that. you know, what about this, like, last push, when you have so many undecided people, does this last

appearance that they happen to see, is it the last person who they like? is it the last person who knocks on their door who's enthusiastic? how do people decide if they haven't yet? >> these crowds are indicative of what's going to happen on tuesday. the fact is that sanders' campaign is really a test of his message here in the state. he is saying that he can beat donald trump by bringing a movement. so if he can take people who normally don't vote in new hampshire and get them to the polls on tuesday, that's going to shand add validity to a movement that shows he can beat donald trump. >> it's interesting because when we all have talked about how people were dispoinlted in iowa because they had fewer people. bernie sanders said yeah, but more young people. that is the channel for him, right? his base has always been there. i was with him in 2016. i mean, the enthusiasm at those events was truly off the charts.

you know, it had a little bit of a grateful dead thing, some of the same people. nevertheless, it's there and it's real. but you can't win with those numbers, his base. >> that's exactly right. this is where it goes back to folks in iowa saying, why didn't we have a massive turnout? some people are indecided. most democrats, they're going to vote for whoever the nominee is that is not trump. that is who. bernie sanders and his folks have done diligently and recognized it's all about the math. there are only two places you can expand the electoral base. 12 million young people that were not gelgible to vote last time and 15 million latinos that are unregistered, but when registered 79% vote. i would encourage all of the candidates to do the exact same thing. again, if you are an independent who doesn't like donald trump, and if you are a registered democrat who doesn't like donald

trump, you're going to vote forever. but if you basically sit at home but you have the opportunity to vote, the candidate looses. why? not only are we talking about who do you like? sadly the republican party has done a fan stask job of learning how to purge and purge individuals at scale. the democrats need to flood the zone with new voters who know their rights and have a shot. >> we used to say the person who was going to get the nomination was somebody you wanted to have a beer with, you could relate to. there is an interesting article that frank bernie wrote, he kind of said bernie sanders is a little bit of the left populist version of what donald trump was to the right four years ago. sanders is a populist of the left as surely as trump is a populist for the right, with a familiar distaste for compromise and a camparable appeal to americans outraged as politics as usual and the usual

politicians. i would say, rene, if the bar for who you're going to turn out is people who are disgusted or fed up, that's going to be a vast majority of people who are out there. but do you see the race this way, the appeal of bernie sanders? >> i don't. i don't really see -- i get what frank, the pa point he was trying to make in that column. but i don't think it's quite that simple. i do think that what bernie sanders is doing and the way he's appealing, he's made this a big cornerstone of his campaign, which is to say if he can get out young people to vote in the numbers that older voters do, then there's no way he can't win and the democrats can't win. he's focusing in on young people in a different way. donald trump has a very dedicated but a relatively insulated base. and bernie sanders i think is sort of casting his net much wider than donald trump ever did. so, you know, bernie sanders is

appealing to young latinos. he has good numbers among african-americans. he has far better numbers among young voters than pete buttigieg and those young voters are his generation. so i think that's what's been smart about the way sanders has had this campaign, he's trying to bring in as many people as possible. i'm not sure that's something donald trump did in 2016. i don't see him doing it this year either. >> i keep asking college students, plenty here, do you see the energy on your campus? and they'll -- many of them will say yes, and then go, well, there's kind of this, kind of, but will they actually turn out to vote? i don't know. if you were a betting man, what's your sense that the democrats have energized, whether it's bernie sanders or pete buttigieg or anybody has energied? maybe it's the issues. >> that's a big question. the iowa thing is scary to the democrats nationally. it could be that older people

were confused by the iowa, knew the rules and didn't want to go. but the main thing here is whoever wins this nomination, if they have beaten bernie sanders and they do not figure out a way to get to movement onboard with them, that's going to be a big problem. iowa results, the poll that came out of des moines, or didn't come out of desmoney, was always thought of was a conspiracy, they're denying bernie. that left bad taste in 2016 and democrats need to be careful going into 2020. >> my panel is going to stay with me. i'm happy about that. coming up, president trump is about to crash the party here in new hampshire. he's scheduled to hold a rally here tomorrow. up next. the challenges of facing trump in november. and which of the democratic candidates would potentially have the best chance to beat him? [ cheers and applause ] as a struggling actor,

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retail politics is the name of the game. two days before the new hampshire primary. senator amy klobuchar wrapped up her second diner stop of the day in manchester eating with locals and posetion for photos. elizabeth warren meantime was

also out early making the rounds, stopping by another restaurant in manchester. she was drinking tea. one is drinking tea, the other one is eating -- all of them making their final pitch. and then there was andrew yang who fired dozens of his campaign staffers last week after his zbloiksth fin szish this may be a fragmented field. it's possible that no candidate heads to milwaukee with a majority. and so having delegates could be the situation that every candidate is in, without having a majority. that could put us in position to help determine the next president. >> so that's where andrew yang is, heoping his delegates will make a difference. president trump will be here in manchester, just a short jaunt from where i'm sitting with, at a rally tomorrow, the night before voters go to the polls.

the president will host a rally at an arena. this is his second in the state during this election psyccycle. just as voters are trying to decide who's the best to beat him? let's bring my panel back. let's look back at 2016. donald trump barely, barely lost here, one half of 1%? >> that's right. >> what do you make of him coming here? >> it's not probably for their votes. if al gore had won them he would have become president of the united states. i think this is about donald trump's approach to things he doesn't leave anything own the table. if somebody attacks him he'll attack back. he's been waiting. he'll really sort of try to lay out the field here and try to attack democrats, right on the eve of the primary. he's also on the ballot, but he's pretty solid in the

republican. >> i don't think anybody is thinking that donald trump is not going to win here. we've seen this time and time again with this president. here they are the democrats fighting for their political lives, he swoops in stealing at least some of the airtime, some headlines. i wonder what you think the impact on the democratic race is. do voters look at him, listen to him, and they get convinced more than ever that they have to vote on electability, who can beat this president? what do you think the impact is on the democrats who are voting tomorrow? >> i frankly hope it has no impact whatsoever. i think that the democrats should concentrate on what they need to do and ignore what donald trump is doing. they know the threat that this president poses. you know, four years ago barack obama said democracy is on the ballot. in 2020, democracy is on the ropes, and that is what the democrats should be looking at. donald trump is going to do what donald trump does. he's also going to use this opportunity as a post trial victory lap.

i don't think the democrats need to be getting distracted. they have enough. let donald trump have his little rally and let the democrats deal with getting their nominee and deciding where they want to take the party. >> yeah, i mean, this has been an ongoing question, maria teresa, how much do you respond day to day with what the president says. for example, he's going to release a new budget tomorrow. "the washington post" says it will lay bare how much he has adjusted to the political and practical limits of washington. if he puts out the budget, and we know there are going to be things in it that do not go along with what he said he was going to do in 2016, do you go after it? do you ignore it? how do you play this day do day with donald trump? >> so i saw a preview of what he is about to -- he has a $4.3 trillion budgets that goes to the milliary for the most part and guts social safety net programs such as food stamps,

health care, public education, infrastructure. it is something that is technically devastating for everyday americans who go and go to work for bread and butter. this is -- if i was the individual saying, you know, you're telling me you're an undecided voter, this is what he believes america should believe in, in gutting the social safety net of children. this is what i believe in. i would hit him hard and say, this is not about anybody else, but it's about what i believe in. quite frankly the one that could come up with something so quickly to that is elizabeth warren, because she has a plan for practically everything. if i were her, that's how i would put myself back on the radar of the voters. >> this is a little bit, neal, on what he said, there was mistruths after mistruths in his state of the union, saying i'm not going to touch preexiting conditions. now he says he's not touching medicare. but that's not what the numbers

would suggest. knowing the new hampshire voter, in these closing hours, which are so important, do you respond to the president to show, i'm the tough person with the answer for him? >> he is going to motivate democrats to go to the polls on tuesday, he's going to spike the football on monday night. he's been spiking it all week. democrats at this point are a little demoralized with the fact of the impeachment, state of the union, all of the subsequent activities, and he just keeps on doing it and doing it and doing it. firing up his base, but i think democrats can't ignore him. how can anyone ignore donald trump? he's going to increase the numbers of people who turn out to vote on this tuesday primary. >> i thought i heard you, rene. you've been wanting to jump in. >> i understand that the democrats are demoralized but i keep thinking about this old song that goes, i am no ways tooird. that

tired. that's what they are thinking about. it's all about what happens going forward. the whole whied that he lied through the state of the union address, nancy pelosi said she shredded the speech because he shredded the truth. it's time to start shredding the lies and what he is going do to the social safety net. it doesn't mean if he says i will protect pre-existing conditions. we know that's not true. less going after each other and more going directly after donald trump. >> rene graham, neal lavek, maria teresa graham, thanks to all of you. wasn't this a fantastic panel? >> yeah. [ applause ] >> i'm going to talk to some of the voters in this crowd. and we've got more live coverage from here in manchester. alisia mennen doendez will keep coverage going, followed by

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new hampshire. we are trild to be here again. i have a couple of questions. can all you folks hear me? question number one, how many of you, let's have a show of applause, how many of you are going to vote on tuesday? [ cheers and applause ] okay. how many of you, and this is a raise your hands, how many of you have not decided yet who you're going to vote for? oh, here she is. standing right next to me. are you leaning one way or another? >> no, i'm really split between several candidates. and i've watched the debates and listened to the radio and watched the tv. >> what's going to make the difference for you? >> i don't know. maybe a lightning bolt. i don't know. i don't know. >> are you nervous about it? >> yes, yes, because in the past i've made my decisions many, many days in advance, months in advance. but now it's like -- it's -- nothing is coming to me. >> have you made up your -- >> yeah. >> and you haven't been able to convince here?

>> not this time yet. not this time yet. i'm going for bernie sanders. >> [ cheers and applause ] >> i voted for him before four yearsing with. and i think that he represents a change. i think he can get the excitement up. i'm believing that he can excite the party so that they can come out. we need the same excitement that the other side has. >> anybody else an undecided voter here? oh, oh, see, they want me to walk fast. they want me to walk fast. you're undecided? >> yes, yes, between joe biden or mayor pete. >> and what's going to be the difference for you? >> i'm leaning towards mayor pete. i think the youngness is good and he's a veteran. we need somebody who's been in the fire who's going to make the right calls and take on this coward who thinks he's the tough guy called trump. he's got to go. all right? [ cheers and applause ] >> and that's the way i look at it. >> and -- >> i wish some democrats would stand up to him.

>> you're a veteran. >> yeah. >> we thank you for your service. you're undecided? >> yeah, i'm 25 years old and i am a college student. i can't say i'm voting for anybody in particular. i do happen to like what tom steyer says about which need to beat donald trump on the economy. can i get an applause for that? >> not much. there's only a few. what's going to be the difference quick? we need to go to break? >> personally a lot of the social justice issues that we're facing in this country on trans jentd. and we need to fight this administration. >> there we go. folks, we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back right after this with more live from manchester, new hampshire. thank you. [ cheers and applause ] when you shop with wayfair, you spend less and get way more. so you can bring your vision to life and save in more ways than one.

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you know, it's not just the two days left before the nmp primary thats that candidates campaigning so hard this weekend. it's also because so many voters don't know who they are voting for. according to the "boston globe,"

43% of those vote remembers independent or undeclared and polls are predicting a close race. what we are seeing now is bernie sanders and pete buttegeig leading the pack. but who is winning among all the undecided voters? joining me, the author of the "washington post" power up newsletter. you did live here in 2016. you know a little bit with new hampshire. >> yep. >> it is hard to overstate, especially i think this year, what these events mean to folks. when you get to hear someone in person or meet them in earn approximate, people are influenced at the literally last minute. >> right. and iowa has had such an impact on that as well. there is obviously this well documented rivalry between iowa and new hampshire and i think new hampshire voters like to think they are not followers, they are independent minded. but without iowa winnowing the field nmp voters are taking the responsibility that much more seriously. as we have heard from all the

people this the audience. i met so many voters over the last week who have their schedule mapped out. >> literally, they are making a schedule, how do i see as many people as possible? >> they are very undecided. it is a malleable race. it has been volatile in the past few months. there were more undecided voters this month than there were this past summer. people are still making up their minds. i think a lot of people were looking to friday, the debate for a clarifying definitive moment on the front-runner. nmp likes to favor their underdogs. i think there are going to be people outperforming the polls at the end of the day. >> in the end for these folks what is going to be the difference? we keep hearing about electability. obvious lows at the top of a lot of democrats' minds. what else are they telling you? >> the big issues are reflective of the national issues, ricing cost of health care, climate change, and student debt amongst

young voters. that's what i am looking at come tuesday, you know, where there is going to be such a razor thin margin, which is what we are anticipating right now, also what we saw in iowa. that's where the youth vote really matters. that's why we are seeing all of the candidates storm college camps. i know a bunch of youth voter turnout groups that are also storming campuses tomorrow making pledges and getting people to make an actual plan. because there are a lot of studies that show if young voters don't make a plan to show up at this poll at this time then they don't actually show up. that can make a lot of difference especially for someone like bernie sanders. also what i am seeing is a lot of people gravitating towards mayor pete. he is tailor made for this state. a lot of people, especially in the affluent moderate suburbs, concord, manchester, the southeastern part of new hampshire that bernie sanders didn't do well in, they are

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welcome back to manchester, new hampshire. we are live with voters here just two days before the first in the nation primary. if they haven't met a presidential candidate in person yet, they haven't been trying, because they are everywhere. ten candidates in the state today holding dozens of events from morning to night. right now, pete buttegeig is talking to voters in dover. while andrew yang holds a town hall in hand over. then later this hour, joe biden

is scheduled to hold an event in hudson, new hampshire. at the same time, elizabeth warren will be speaking. the latest "boston globe" tracking poll shows bernie sanders and pete buttegeig in a statistical dead heat at the top, followed by warren, biden, and amy klobuchar. this may be a significant number from the latest poll. nearly half the voters have not settled on a candidate. 30% saying they are still trying to decide. another 19% leaning toward one candidate but they could kmapg their mine. that's a big number at this stage of the game, two days before they go to vote. pete buttegeig is spending the day rallying crowds, also fengd off attacks from other candidates. this is what happens when you become a front-runner. vaughn hillyard is following buttegeig's busy day in new hampshire. a huge crowd for him, right? is he talking about the critics? >> reporter: good afternoon, there was an event in nashua

earlier here today in which nearly 2,000 folks attend inside a middle school gym. this is the pete buttegeig i think for the first time -- i have been with him a good while on this campaign trial in which there is true energy felt inside of these gymnasiums. i was talking -- i think we have got a shot up of an event currently taking place down the road in dover, new hampshire. we are trying to get there. we are a little bit behind here on the road. but our colleague priscilla thompson is shooting at the event and i was talking to her and she had the most energetic event we have been to involving buttegeig since an event in december. this is what he is pressing, a campaign that can bring in democrats in his own party but also independents and republicans. i want to let you thatter from pete buttegeig himself from that stage in nashua just a bit ago.

>> it is the heat of competition. throwing elbows, making contrasts. but there is going to come a day where out of the 25 people who jumped into this race for president approximately 24 are not going to be the nominee. so much depends on making sure we rally around the one who dose because we know what we are going to be up against in november. and it cannot be each other. we have got to unify and get to work right away. >> reporter: chris, i know you heard that sound byte from pete buttegeig just about an hour and a half ago. but this is the politics of it all. i got a message from priscilla who is over in dover. she flagged him up on stage. i want to read you a quote. he is turning his eyes onto a candidate. that would be senator sanders. you see here in the new hampshire polling in a statistical dead heat together. this is what pete buttegeig said, what we could do without a

health care plan that is soes expensive. senator sanders himself admits he has no idea how it would be paid for. he says quote it raises the question that the american people could vote for somebody who could deliver math. you no he appears to be squaring up bernie sanders who he essentially tied in iowa and is now locking to go manno a manno with here in new hampshire. i don't know what gives. i guess we will go to event to event. >> manno a manno. as we said, everybody is here. everybody is going out. senator amy klobuchar another candidate who has been taking aim at buttegeig's experience and touting her own. the latest tracking shows her one point behind former vice president joe biden. road warrior alley vitale joins us from a event in manchester.

if you are on team klobuchar, good news is she is gaining. bad news, she is not threatening the front runners yet. what do they see as the scenario on tuesday? how do they get there? >> that's exactly the question that i asked her yesterday, what's the metric for success here? of course every campaign wants to win in the state they are competing in. at the same time, amy klobuchar wouldn't even concede if beating joe biden was a success metric for here here in new hampshire. but in the same conversation i pointed out that joe biden seems to be going after puj and sanders. search attacking everyone. klobuchar pointed out she is contrasting her record not attacking anybody but she said she was the first to ring the bell on what she sees as buttegeig's different kind of speakers. clearly that message is working. we came from an event of hers down the road here where she got

the biggest crowd she ever had. she carried a message of confidence and being counted out before. listen. >> then they thought i wasn't going to make it through the summer. then they thought i wasn't going to make to it the debate. and was i at the debate! so every step of the way, we have defied expectations. >> look, chris, this is what we know a debate stage earns you. it earns you a bit of buzz. iters you bigger crowds than you are used to. and it earns you a chance to make sure case to an audiences that listening to you in a way they haven't before. she isn't laying out a metric to win but they're clearly doing well here on the ground because they are seeing more people show up. you pointed out at the beginning of the segment how many people say they are undecided. that's true. even in a cbs poll that came out this morning, only 39% said they

have definitely decided on their candidate. as i have been talking to voters at these events a lot of them are using the phrase candidate shopping. amy klobuchar is trying to bolster her position and now it is up to voters to decide. >> we have so much to talk about. i have the greatest panel. msnbc's stephanie ruhle who is just back from talking to voters and pete buttegeig. msnbc senior politics editor beth fouhy. and tina cross managing editor of the beat d.c. i hardly know where to start. we were talking to the audience about undecided voters. there are quite a few of them in here. obviously the stats show us there are more out there. what surprised you as you were talking to them? >> what is interesting, the undecided voters seem to be moderate voters. bernie sanders supporters are without a doubt not undecided.

those people are feeling the bern and they are there for bernie. pete buttegeig's event, the energy was extraordinary, the music was blasting. almost every person i spoke to was in that candidate shopping mode. while most of them were sort of feeling pete, not everyone -- i want the share what i heard from one specific woman because it is interesting. she's a grandmother, and she's most interested in the youngest candidate, pete buttegeig, and her adult children are most interested in the oldest candidate, bernie sanders. here's what she had to say. >> i am leaning towards pete buttegeig. my kids would like me to vote for bernie sanders. they are in their 20s and 30s. but i -- i worry about under future, i really do. and i feel that if we can get the party behind someone more towards the middle, we have a chan chance. >> isn't that amazing?

she thinks she's voting for her kids. she's worried about their future and she thinks a vote for senator sanders is too much. she thinks a moderate has a better chance of taking on the president. >> beth, you have been in this rodeo before. we always try to build up the excitement at every primary. but this does feel different to you. i am curious if it feels different to you. with all of these undecided voters, is it because of iowa? is it because democratic voters feel maybe more than ever the stakes are so high with donald trump in office? what's going on here? >> i would say a couple thing. the electability question, which is always of paramount concern for the party that is not the incumbent running against an incumbent. >> more so this year? >> more so this year for sure. people are nervous about making the wrong choice. they haven't settled on who is the strongest to fight donald trump. bernie sanders supporters say it is him.

everyone else seems to be shopping around. the second thin is the contested count in iowa, things coming in late. iowa didn't do what it normally does, which is oust a bunch of candidates. typically iowa winnow the field down quite a bit. it didn't do that this time. we have the same number of candidates here in new hampshire. more candidates because folks who didn't compete in iowa, tulsi gabbard and senator bennett they have staked their campaigns on new hampshire. we have a bigger field now than we had in iowa, as opposed to a smaller field. that sends everybody's decision making into yet another level of confusion. people want to get it right so people are going to wait until the last minute to make their decision. >> whatever party is out of power it is always a time of angst. phil rutger and bob costa wrote a "washington post" titled tempted to key spare, trump

causes democrats to sound alarm. they are looking at his 49% approval rating. that he was able to easily blow past the mueller report, blow past impeachment. to that, it was written, good grief, one, it is february. two, he is historically unpopular, get out of your own heads and just get to work. what do you think, tiffani. >> thank you matt miller for being if voice of reason. >> democrats do this a lot. >> perhaps. but i think we need to put it in context. there has been a lot of talk -- you said we beef up the excitement around the primaries. i think we have to put in cop tech iowa and new hampshire. no shade to the beautiful state of much in but candidates are competing. there is a bigger candidate pool with a smaller electorate here. candidates are competing for 24 delegates. that's less than 1% of the delegates that you need to win the nomination. i know there are candidates here with big crowds. i don't know what pete buttegeig or amy klobuchar having a big crowd here means to the

communities of detroit or philadelphia or east cleveland, ohio. i think we have to keep in context what the rest of the country is focusing on. i know it is fodder for the punditry class to talk everything that happens in new hampshire and iowa. that does very little to fill in voters across the country who feel a disconnect. >> i wonder beth if we are going to get a reflex in the numbers, the ultimate turnout here in terms of what the rest of the country is feeling. i think i have been in ten states the last couple of months talking to voters. one thing you hear -- i ammist exhausted. i am so exhausted. maybe donald trump is exhausting them. but they are just really tired and the concern among some democrats you hear is well is that going to give them a reason to say you know what? i am deny? >> i have been to a lot of states as well. my sense is that people are eager the vote against donald trump. the democrats. they just don't want to make the

choice of who the candidate is going to be. >> okay into they see a large field, they see candidates who have lots of positives also some flaws. they don't want to be the responsible party forress choosing which one is going to be the nominee. once democrats have a nominee they will get very much behind them. >> we have seen big crowds here. the pete buttegeig event you were just at i think is the largest one of this cycle, right? over 2,000 people. >> do you actually think everyone is going to get on board? if you look back to 2016 can you say all of the super enthused bernie sanders voters got behind hillary clinton? they didn't. >> but donald trump is the president now. that changes a lot. the big question is going to be -- we have donald trump coming here tomorrow night to new hampshire. he is sort of crashing theert pa. he is going to get a bigger crowd than any of the candidates combined. it is going to continue perhaps the democratic angst that it is going to be hard to compete against him. >> love him or hate him, he's a

producer. he is a showman who is going to put on a massive show that's going to draw mass in headlines and take headlines away from the democrats who are here for many of them in the most consequential primary they are going face. you know the president is going to make big news tomorrow night. that's what he does. >> i think the big hill initially it seemed that pete buttegeig would have to climb was could he stand next the donald trump? he seems to think he can. what did he tell you? you got a chance to talk to him for a few minutes at the event. >> we got into specifics mayor pete buttegeig clearly from an ideological standpoint is different than bernie sanders. what have we seen in the last few days. moderates going after moderates. amy klobuchar joe biden, pete buttegeig. if this is what the moderates are going to do, aren't you

going to give senator sanders a clear path? that was the clear path that donald trump got in 2016. here's what mayor pete had to say? i am not focused on any of my competitors but i will push off when somebody makes an attack or when i feel it is important to make a difference between us. it is a different message for bernie sanders. i think the idea that you have to be for a revolution or for the status quo leaves most of us out. >> long story short he's saying i am going to defend myself if other moderates are going after me but the one person he is drawing a clear line between is senator sanders and himself. >> thank you for rushing back. as i said, stephanie, please come back. she did. you are sticking with us. we will have them as well. i will be anchoring -- you are going to be anchoring here tomorrow night? >> 9:00 a.m. >> i will be here at 11:00.

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manchester. here's the good news for new hampshire. it is not a caucus. bad news, pressure to make two states flawless after the iowa debacle and continuing calls for the dnc chair. >> ultimately i think it is a failure of leadership and i think the chair should resign. >> have you considered resigning? >> absolutely not. jake look at last three years. my job when it came in was to rebuild our inextra structure, to win elections. when you do that sometimes you have got to make tough decisions. >> new hampshire officials promise the state's primary is set. they are ready to go. joining me now, nbc's cal perry who spoke with new hampshire's secretary of state. remember after iowa, the iowa secretary of state put out a statement saying i had nothing to do with this. but what does the secretary of state here say. >> the secretary of state here will have everything to do with this. he has been secretary of state since 1976. he has run over 500 elections,

and he says it is the lack of technology that's going to make the difference. take a listen. >> start out with you can't hack a pencil. and then a roughly, 85% of the people of the state will then take that paper ballot and put it in an optical scan device. and that device is not connected to the internet. >> monday night you are going to sleep. what's worrying you about the next day? the weather? the weather worries you? >> the weather. but we are going to have it no matter what. >> weather and snow aside, officials here are feeling pretty good. part of that is they hold statewide elections here every two years. the governor here serve as would-year term, unlimited terms. the state says they have a lot of practice. another thing to keep an eye on. all of those ballots and the records of those ballots will be

transferred by state police to the state house in concord the next morning. keep an eye on that in case there is recount. chris? >> the chain of command is always going to be kept clean. cal perry thank you so much for that and for your interview with the secretary of state. here is somebody who also knows a lot about elections here in new hampshire. andrew smith, director of the university of new hampshire survey center. that's a good line, you can't hack a pencil. >> he has been using it for years. it is absolutely the case. gardner has been very concerned about the trust in the elections going back to his first election when he was elected. we actually had to redo a senate election in new hampshire. since that time he has been very clear to make sure that we have a paper trail and you can look at the chain of custody where the ballots have been. >> i will give us some of the blame for this, there was a lot of oh, the pressure is now on new hampshire because iowa made such a mess of things. it sounds like nobody here was worried about it? >> no, it is no big deal. we can count pretty well.

we have more elections than any state in the university. >> in the meantime, there is a question about turnout. we have seen -- we just saw more than 2,000 people turned out to see buttegeig. there have been big crowds. the question is how many people will turn out. my understanding is that bill gardner is predicting more than half a million residents will turn out in the primary. that's like 50% of the state's -- 50% of the state's register voters turn out that's big. do you think it is a realistic number? >> i think it might be a little bit high. but not by much. gardener has been good at timting turnout. new hampshire has the highest turnout of any of the nominating states. the record is 56% turnout. this year it is expected to be less than that because the republican primary is not competitive. we expect a lot of people to come out. that's what we do here in the middle of february in new hampshire it is the much in

primary, our civic holiday. >> is it even more pressure because iowa didn't have decisive vote, does that put more pressure on the voters here to decide who? >> people aren't paying attention to essentially what happens to iowa. the one way they pay attention to iowa is if a candidate does poorly there, it is going to be harder for that candidate to do well here. if a candidate does well and exceeds expectations they are going to a boost here. i don't think there is any sense that we have to correct iowa or do things differently than iowa. people here will vote for who they like. >> what will new hampshire tell us realistically because people who aren't doing well are saying only a few delegates in iowa, only a few in new hampshire. the real primaries are coming up on super tuesday. what impact will new hampshire, do you think, especially in this race, which is still so crowded. more crowded than a lot of

people thought it would be at this point. >> no candidate has ever won their party's nomination without either winning or coming in second in the new hampshire primary. winning in new hampshire gives you a 27 percentage point advantage in states following this in winning delegates. 17% if you come in second. you really do have to do well in new hampshire historically of granted we might have different thing happen this year. but i always look at things that happened in the past and work from there. this it is going to be the most important primary in the cycle. it is not because we are big. the number of delegates doesn't matter. it is the momentum and the message that's sent, what voters really want. they want a candidate who can beat the opposing party's candidate in november. >> yeah. >> how do you tell if somebody is an electable candidate? they win. winners win, losers lose. the people who win new hampshire they are seen as winners in the states following new hampshire. if they lose new hampshire they have got trouble. >> thank you for coming in.

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new today, the latest in a plethora of polls this. time, it is the cbs poll of likely new hampshire voters. it shows a trend here. senator bernie sanders first choice to be the nominee with 29%. some cheering here. pete buttegeig close behind. 25%. senator elizabeth warren, vice president joe biden, and senator amy klobuchar rounding out the top tier. joining me now, nbc political analyst jonathan allen, beth huey and jennifer cross are whack with me. jennifer we keep talking about all of the undecided voters. what do the polls tell us and what don't they tell us? >> i think they tell us there is a close race at the top between sanders and buttegeig.

they come out of iowa essentially tied in iowa. they come into new hampshire, buttegeig has the boost. sanders seems to have an edge in all the polls. seems to have an edge. and they also tell us joe biden is essentially sinking like a rock. this is somebody who is going the need, he is going to need steam here at the end to not look like his campaign is in deep trouble of ending. >> tiffani, what does steam look like? i mean is fourth place finish going to finish off joe biden? are people going to look at and it say okay this was always going to be about the more diverse coalition when we got to places like south carolina? what will this tell us, really. >> it will not be good for joe biden to finish fourth or fifth here. look, i think it is troublesome for him because of the donor class. i think that's something that people look at. if they keep contributing fast,

it is carnivorous. people might jump ship. we still haven't heard about voting rights, education, housing. these are things that are going to appeal to that base in south carolina, in nevada, in california. you haven't heard a lot about that. so i think joe biden could shift. but look people love joe biden. i think when we see him on the debate stage sometimes some people watch in angst anding any because he is beloved by the people that doesn't necessarily translate to votes. i think that's what we are finding out from some of his perform ans. >> it is interesting, sam stein wrote an article on joe biden. one of the things that he found and i think we all know this -- people really do admire him. and when he talks very personally, beth, it resonates with people. and that seemed to be part of why he was doing so well before people were really focused on who was going to be the nom

know, that he was the front-runner for such a long time. what's changed? >> well, he is beloved. and democrats admire him. they admire his service to the country. they feel he was a great vice president to barack obama who of course maims very, very popular with most democrats. he's got a big heart. there is no question about that. he sort of wears his heart on his sleeve. how can you not appreciate that? but that doesn't necessarily translate into wanting him to be the next president. they still have concerns about his leblt versus donald trump who has already shown us a willingness to go after vice president biden in very personal ways. they worry about his age. this he worry whether he is just the candidate to kind of move the country into the next step, the next phase. obviously pete buttegeig has gotten traction by making that argument, as much as you admired the obama/biden administration it is time to sort of turn the page to the next step. that is why i think one can love joe biden as a man and as a

politician and has somebody who has been in public life so long but not wanting him to be the nominee. >> let's talk about some of the other candidates who you -- i don't want to use on the ropes but on the ropes. amy klobuchar, she had by virtually all candidates her strongest debate yet. she raised $2 million in the 24 hours afterwards. that does make a difference. it allows you to say okay i am going to be able to continue on. having said that, for people who haven't yet broken into the top three, is this it? where are we for elizabeth warren and amy klobuchar? >> the expectations for klobuchar weren't as high coming in. >> not even close. >> especially for somebody who wasn't the two-time former vice president of the united states. >> joe biden. >> so for klobuchar to get out of iowa in the sort of fog of war that was the iowa caucuses, cli out of there, get here and

then perhaps get a little bit better in new hampshire she gets to maybe show some building. what we saw in the debate the other night, democrats want. which is fight. she's ride or die in a bar broul. if you wanted somebody to walk into a bar fight in a new hampshire brawl with you on the stage the other night it was klobuchar. the other thin it tells you, democrats want unity. she hasn't each begun to talk about the democratic farm labor party. colin peterson, and i will ill hahn omar. there is a lot of story for her to tell that she hasn't each begun to tell. if she has the money to keep going i think that's something you are going to end up hearing from her. >> i am not sure. i am sure, tiffani, are democrats thinking at this point

who can bring a party together? maybe who can bring the country together. maybe they are not even thinking that. >> i feel like it is more party. i wanted to say on amy klobuchar, i think on the debate stage and in the landscape a lot of people focus their questions on the diversification outreach to pete buttegeig but i think amy klobuchar should have to answer for some of that. she talks about how she can win in red states. i always want to say you are running as a democrat, talk to the base, how you can win some blue states. i think that matters most is authenticity. i think amy klobuchar will have challenges with that if she becomes the nominee. because people say she was a tough senator but some of her staff say she was abusive. everybody has a smart phone, everybody sees everything. i don't know about her ability to rise. i think elizabeth warren, you know, she started out with huge students. i wouldn't necessarily d discouldn't her yet.

i think she can build a healthy coalition if she focuses on her plans but you have got to leapfrog over the media landscape and talk about things affecting constituency groups. >> not only that, you have to leapfrog over bernie sanders. >> to tiffany's point -- i am not going to take long. but to tiffany's point, we haven't seen big coastal states. we haven't seen a lot of the states with diversity where elizabeth warren may have a real opportunity to gain traction with some voters with some of her plans. >> i would also say, i mean, you said she would are to leapfrog over bernie sanders. she doesn't necessarily share the same voters with bernie sanders. they share a lot of voters but she has college educated women, suburban folks who are also looking at pete buttegeig. amy klobuchar. bernie sanders people are bernie sanders people. they are sort of rock solid. elizabeth warren for good or bad is in the category of the voters who are shopping. that is one of the reasons why i

think she has struggled. she has a wider field to compete with. >> somebody we haven't talked about is mike bloomberg. i think we may hear that name tomorrow when donald trump comes here. how much is mike bloomberg in the picture? and how much -- maybe more to the point, how much does what happens here impact how he is moving forward? >> i mean, mike bloomberg could buy all of the property inside the trump tower of donald trump's head three or four hundred times over. donald trump has got to be thinking a lot about the billions of dollars that mike bloomberg is ready to drop in the campaign, whether it is for mike bloomberg or somebody else. the guy is building out an operation that will probably be several times more sophisticated than the democratic national committee's operation, perhaps more sophisticated than any of the campaigns would build on their own. and he's ready to jump in the joe biden falls, perhaps as soon as this week, maybe within a few

weeks, if biden rises or somebody else rises, becomes the nominee, that money is all going to be there. >> i am going to take a risk. food has been served here. gang? folks? big question. important question. if the race is still muddled several weeks from now, how many of you would consider, by applause, mike bloomberg? [ applause ] i am going to give it half and half. what do you think? >> that struck me as about half. >> no? that wasn't -- what was it? what do you say? >> i would say it was enough to consider that in a four or five-candidate race he would get some delegates. >> it struck me as there is a lot of ambivalence about mike bloomberg. >> true. >> justifiably so. there are a lot of democrats who are the crazy about mike bloomberg, particularly communities of color. he was a very divisive mayor among communities of color when

he was in the city. >> i will say he made inroads with a lot of mayors across america. but stop and frisk, and his policies in nyc are going to be a huge deal but the mayors across the country. south carolina, california's mayors. i think that might create inroads for him. >> mayors have their own turn out operations. >> yeah. >> and they reside in places where you have a disproportionate number of the delegates awarded because they are representing big cities. when you are playing a delegate game it is huge to have the mayors on your side if you have a network of those. we have never seen that before. >> right. >> if you have a network of those, you have a huge advantage. >> so much the talk about. thanks to jonathan allen. appreciate you coming in. beth huey. tiffany cross. thank you all. coming up, i will talk with some of the voters here with me today.

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[ applause ] welcome back to new hampshire. look at all of these great looking people. they came in from the cold, there is snow out there. imgoing to do a completely unofficial survey. have you decided who you are going vote for? >> i live in texas. >> you have a little time to go. do we have any new hampshirites here. yes. >> who are you going to vote for? >> i haven't decided. >> why not? >> i haven't decided. >> why not? >> same as here. >> have there been some heated conversations. >> we have had some conversations. >> how about you? >> bernie sanders all the way. >> bernie or biden. >> you haven't decided. how about you? >> bernie or biden. >> bernie or biden. two. we have no idea.

there are having conversation about having conversation with me. what do you think? >> person who can do the best for the economy. >> economy. >> economy. >> two guys for the economy, who is that? the guy in the office right now. >> are you trump voters. >> he raised the economy, the military, security. >> okay, so that's -- completely unofficial. but i think representative of a little bit of what's -- amy klobuchar? >> yes. we are going to vote for amy. >> we are going to take a quick break, be right back here live from manchester, new hampshire, let's hear it. i am all about living joyfully. the united explorer card hooks me up. getting more for getting away. traveling lighter. getting settled. rewarded. learn more at the explorer card dot com.

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the iowa caucuses. instead, it was around 176,000. for more on whether this is an omen for this week's democratic primary and all things new hampshire i am joined by the mayor of la conia and executive of new hampshire's young democrats. we were talking in the break and i just had this conversation with folks here, there are so many people who are undecided. what is going on, mayor? >> well, i think people are very interested, they are vetting all of the candidates. they are giving everybody a fair shake right now. >> you were at the big dinner the other night. what did you hear there? >> i heard there were certainly passionate people associated with all of the candidates right now. >> yes. >> but you are still looking at almost 50% of the democratic electorate undecided right now. i think they are coming in with a jump ball coming in on tuesday. most of the polls have bernie way in the lead in some instances but really it is a fluid situation two through

five. i think there are going to be great surprise snooze one of the big selling points for bernie sanders is i am going to bring all of the new voters into the fold, particularcly young voters. we have heard so many times over so many cycles that young voters were suddenly going to turn out in massive numbers. tell me what you are seeing and feeling? >> sure. here in new hampshire in the mid terms we had -- mid terms we had a record turnout from 2014 to 2018. and in durham we saw 50% voter turnout increase among students. plymouth and hand over, 30% increases which were not expected but it is really a testament to the focus on cam s campuses and the understanding of the youth vote and the power of the youth vote. >> what is the understanding of the youth vote that you hope the democratic party at large takes away? >> i think that folks understand that the youth vote is going object the largest vote, bloch in 2020. what we have seen here in new hampshire and as an organization, the new hampshire young democrats has been making sure the issues that are front

and center to young people are front and center in the primary and candidate coming into the state are not just giving side time to those issues so that will young people were not only engaged but motivated and ready to work for their candidate and it will all come together in the primary so that in november the youth vote breaks all the records. >> the electorate overall, what do you think is going to drive people on tuesday when they are finally making that decision when they go in? or will it be a situation where they throw up their hands and don't vote at all? >> i think what makes a difference is who out there can beat donald trump. >> bottom line, who is the most electable. >> klobuchar, who i think has the best chance to beat someone like donald trump. i think they are look at that. >> why is she not doing better in the polls. >> i think one reason, she was bolted to her seat during the

impeachment trial. she is surging in a number of the polls right now. when people get to know her as they did on friday night you so a huge bump in her fund rising numbers. people are starting to tune -- we have voters from neighboring states here who have a little bit of an advantage and bernie sanders has been a constant presence in this state the better part of a decade. >> what are your predictions? >> i think two through five it is a fluid situation. i think someone like senator klobuchar is cloerl on the tries and gaining momentum. i look for her to move up into the top three. >> one of the things we talked about repeatedly here is no one historically in modern times has ever gone on to win the nomination without finishing first or second in new hampshire. do you think that's going hold this year? could it be different? do you think it is close enough and enough volatility that things are going to change? >> i think this is going to be long primary and the campaigns have built themselves for the

long haul. the chairman of the democratic party said earlierer this week this is the most consequential new hampshire primary in a long time. i think there will be obviously momentum come out of new hampshire. but if you look at the campaigns -- the strength the campaigns and the robustness of them across the whole country i think this is going to be a longer primary. >> andrew yang today was talking essentially about a brokered convention, about him having delegates he could use to play there. >> seems like every election cycle people are talked about a brokered convention. >> it never happens. >> it never happens. there is a long way to go and there are a lot of opportunities for candidates to prove themselves. >> what do you think is actually going to happen? i gave the mayor a chance. you know at least the young voters. you think they are going to come out. >> i think youth turnout is going to be robust. >> for whom? >> i think it is going to be with a -- with the diversity of candidates we have i think we have had a luxury on college campuses where young voters have a menu of omgs of candidates who

speak to their concerns. senator sanders obviously has a lot of appeal with young voters but i don't think he is going to corner the market like he did in 2016. i think there are a lot of really option asks these campaigns have invested in the youth vote. they are putting staff on the ground on campuses making sure they are talking to voters. i think it is going to be a robust voter youth turnout. >> that does it for me. i will be back here tomorrow at 11:00 a.m. come down and join us. my colleague, alicia menendez will pick up our live coverage from manchester, new hampshire, and thank you to our amazing audience. thank you, everybody. [ applause ] everything was so fresh in the beginning... but that plug quickly faded. luckily there's febreze plug. it cleans away odors and freshens for 1200 hours. breathe happy with febreze plug.

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good afternoon. i'm alicia menendez live in manchester, new hampshire, where the clock is ticking on the democratic field. they have just two days to convince voters they are the best candidate to take on president trump in november. the candidates fanned out across the granite state today shaking as many hands as they can, and trying to rally their supporters. and the fight for the moderate votes continued its feisty tone. mayor pete buttegeig fighting back against attacks