this sunday, primary colors. despite the iowa caucus model -- >> our campaign is off to a great start. >> it's our chance to make real change. >> we can feel how close we are. we can feel the wind at our back. >> pete buttigieg surges into a virtual tie with bernie sanders in new hampshire polls. joe biden's fourth place finish has him on the attack. >> when you get attacked, you have to respond. i've kept my mouth shut for a long time. >> on friday's debate, buttigieg took on sanders -- >> a politics who says it's my way or the highway. >> are you talking about bernie sanders? >> yes. >> while many took on buttigieg. >> we have a newcomer in the white house and look where it got us. >> my guests this morning,

the two democratic front-runners, former south bend mayor pete buttigieg of indiana and senator bernie sanders of vermont. plus, president trump acquitted. >> i never thought a word would sound so good. it's called total acquittal. >> and vindictive. >> adam schiff is a vicious, horrible person. nancy pelosi is a horrible person. >> as he ousts two officials who testified at the house impeachment hearings. republicans say they hope the president learned a lesson from impeachment. but what lesson did he learn in the end? joining me for insight and analysis are nbc news capitol hill correspondent kasie hunt. msnbc host joshua johnson. former democratic senator claire mccaskill of missouri and former republican senator john sununu of new hampshire. welcome to sunday and a special edition of "meet the press." >> announcer: from nbc news in manchester, new hampshire, from the new hampshire presidential primary, this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd.

and a good sunday morning from manchester, new hampshire. we are back again at our better than ever headquarters in new hampshire where two days from now voters will either untangle the mess created in iowa or more likely further complicate the democrats' path to the white house. one thing we did learn this week, iowa may not be able to count, but it still counts. pete buttigieg's strong showing and joe biden's fourth place iowa finish have sent their candidacies in opposite trajectories. the latest wbz boston globe suffolk tracking poll shows bernie sanders with just a two-point lead over buttigieg, who has surged this week, 24-22 with elizabeth warren, joe biden and amy klobuchar trailing. of note, klobuchar picked up the most overnight, perhaps she's seeing a bit of a bump from the debate. since tuesday buttigieg has gained 7 points overall and biden has lost 5 overall in that poll. the other thing we learned is that matters could hardly be worse right now for democrats. the iowa vote count fiasco is a

national embarrassment. the democratic party is divided against itself, left versus center left. the candidate once seen as having the best chance of beating president trump is in a freefall and low on money. they are terrified of a sanders nomination but at a loss for how to stop him. president trump was acquitted of impeachment charges, his poll numbers are climbing and he's feeling as confident as ever. tuesday's primary may be among the state's most consequential in quite some time as voters clarify the direction of the democratic race, or not. >> billionaires by the dozens are contributing to pete buttigieg. >> the two front-runners now taking each other on on the trail -- >> you have to take on these people, not take money from them. >> we cannot risk dividing americans' future further, saying that you must either be for a revolution or you must be for the status quo. >> and on stage -- >> a politics that says it's my way or the highway. >> are you talking about senator sanders? >> yes. >> i don't have 40 billionaires,

pete, contributing to my campaign. >> after a fourth place finish in iowa and now polling fourth in new hampshire and leaking support -- >> i took a hit in iowa and i'll probably take a hit here. >> the biden campaign announced a limited shake-up on friday, elevating top aide anita dunn to an expanded role. now the fire once trained on biden -- >> joe biden is a friend of mine, and i'm not here to attack him. >> -- is turning on buttigieg instead. on friday night, buttigieg faced his most direct attacks from opponents eager to challenge him as the leading alternative to sanders. >> we have a newcomer in the white house and look where it got us. >> he's the mayor of a small city. >> senator warren, is that a substantial answer from mayor buttigieg? >> no. >> on saturday the biden campaign released a digital ad mocking buttigieg's experience and calling his record into question. >> even when public pressure mounted against him, former

mayor pete fired the first african-american police chief of south bend and then he forced out the african-american fire chief too. >> this guy is not a barack obama. >> buttigieg is leaning in to his lack of experience. >> you don't have decades of experience in the establishment, the city you're the mayor of isn't even the biggest city in the country, it's more like manchester, new hampshire, to which i say that is very much the point. >> waiting in the wings, billionaire mike bloomberg who has already spent more than $273 million on ads, dwarfing the field, after iowa his campaign says he is doubling his spending. >> the president seems to view the republican party as a cult that will defend anything he does or says. >> i don't think anyone ought to be able to buy their way into a nomination. >> and tom steyer going negative on the air and raising what may be the real test for both front-runners after new hampshire. >> unless you can appeal to the diverse parts of the democratic party, including specifically

the black community, including specifically latinos, if you can't do that, then we can't beat donald trump. >> and joining me now is the former mayor of south bend, indiana, democratic presidential candidate pete buttigieg. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good to be with you. >> two weeks in a row. last week i think you surprised a lot of people by a virtual tie in iowa given that we still don't have 100%, but everybody is coming at you now. looking at your record in south bend, concerned that no matter what the history of the democratic party is, this is a different time. donald trump is a different candidate. and there is a lot of concern that you won't be able to beat him. how do you alleviate this concern? >> the way to beat donald trump is certainly not to rely on the familiar playbook. and it's also, in my view, not to say that we need either a revolution or you must be for the status quo. the reason my campaign was so effective, especially in places that supported barack obama and then donald trump in the

caucuses is that we are reaching out to everybody, putting together a majority that is prepared not only to stand up for replacing this president, unified in what we're against, but even more so unified on what we're for, the need for economic empowerment, the need for higher wages, the need for health care, dealing with climate change and gun violence. there's a powerful american majority right now ready not only to win but to govern. and my campaign is about how to galvanize and not polarize that majority. that's how we're going to beat donald trump. >> let me play another clip from this digital attack ad from the biden campaign. here it is. >> joe biden helped lead the passage of the affordable care act, which gave health care to 20 million people. and when park goers called on pete buttigieg, he installed decorative lights under bridges, giving citizens of south bend colorfully illuminated rivers. >> there's a lot of subtext in this ad in various ways. i think the biggest simply is

can your south bend record withstand the scrutiny that's going to come? you have painted a very positive picture, but when you start peeling back some of the layers here, there is some questionable things on your record, particularly on dealings with the african-american community. >> well, our story and the story of our city is that of a city facing tremendous challenges. when you're a mayor, you don't just get to opine on things or vote on things or call for things to change, you have to roll your sleeves up and do them. i think the question is, why is it that the voters who know me best in the african-american community, those in south bend are backing me. and it's not -- >> the not everybody. there's some leading -- a member of the city council in south bend who's not just not backing you but calling you into leadership in the african-american community. >> he was one of my political rivals when i was mayor, he ran, and he came in fifth, but most black elected officials involved in this campaign at all are

supporting me, and it's not because it's been perfect. this is my point. we actually have to deal with these issues on the ground from racial justice in policing to economic empowerment. actually one of the things the vp made fun of, an infrastructure investment, was an investment in minority-owned businesses on corridor on our city's west side because on the ground you have to do these things. we have faced these issues, rolled up our sleeves and gotten a real measurable track record of results. cutting black unemployment, cutting black poverty. our city was nationally recognized for race-informed work on economic empowerment. it's not that we solved all these issues in south bend, just like no one has solved these issues in the country. but i will stack up my record against anybody else who is running for president, all of whom are implicated in the realities that our country faces, especially when it comes to racial and economic inequality. >> i guess the question comes with when did you see these inequities in the african-american community. and how quickly didid you address them? i think about during your tenure when ferguson happened. many mayors said we've got to

look at our policing practices, make sure our police departments look like the community that they're policing. the evidence in south bend is questionable whether it looks like -- i think you make the argument that you did respond. the results don't look like that. >> why do you think that we implemented implicit bias training? why do you think that we led the region in transparency in reporting cases of the use of force, seeing what had happened in ferguson. why do you think i appointed an african-american majority on the civilian board overseeing our police department? and you know what? in terms of results, use of force incidents went down. in my second term arrest rates for black residents on drug charges were lower than they were across the state and across the country. is the record mixed? of course it is because the reality is so tough and so complex. we had a lot of issues to deal with in my eighth year just as we did in my first year, but no one can say we were not intentional and have results to show for it. >> point to a mistake that you will admit now that you wished you had handled an incident

differe differently, whether it's the firing of the police chief, the fire chief? >> certainly in my first few weeks when i was presented with the situation that led me to part ways with the police chief, i would have handled that differently. it was the last time i've ever fired somebody who reported to me without sitting down for a face-to-face conversation. that was a lesson i learned the hard way. >> you're running against some folks that have made mistakes. you've jumped on those mistakes. should their mistakes be forgiven the way you're asking your mistakes to be forgiven? >> this is how it works when each of us comes forward running for president. look at what we've done, what we've learned and what we're proposing for the road ahead. none of us presents ourselves making the case that we're perfect, we present ourselves with a vision and with an idea about where america needs to go. i'm working in particular to earn the support of voters of color, many of whom, i think, didn't think we had much of a chance to begin with, to make sure i'm communicating who i am as well as what it is i propose to do. >> let me put it in these terms.

these first four primaries are designed, i've always believed in different ways, to test if you have all the pieces of this puzzle for the democratic coalition. if you can't finish in the top two in nevada and south carolina, doesn't that send a message that you cannot be the candidate that brings this party together? >> i'll let pundits set the goal posts, but it's certainly the case that we need to do well in different parts of the country, in different states. every state is different. new hampshire is very independent minded and thinks differently than iowa. nevada and south carolina have a very different demographic makeup and that's part of what this process will bring out. >> the vice president is hitting you hard by implying that you're attacking the obama presidency. let me ask the question this way. in the second term of the obama presidency, what do you think they did -- what do you think they could have done differently that could have prevented the rise of donald trump? >> i had the obama white house's back time and time again because they were doing the right thing. that wasn't always easy as a mayor in indiana. you know, in fact my first

campaign statewide was on a platform of defending the obama administration's decision to rescue the auto industry, because i knew what that meant to my state. but those achievements were important because they met the moment. now we're in a different moment. this is 2020. >> no, i understand that. but why did we get donald trump in your view? and could this have been prevented by the obama-biden administration in your view? >> i don't think you can pin this on any one administration, but it's certainly the case that people are frustrated by a reality that they feel has left them out for 40 years. we felt it in my community. an industrial community in the heart of the so-called rust belt that didn't feel like washington was hearing what we had to say. and i'm seeing so many communities, rural, industrial, even parts of some of our biggest cities where people of different backgrounds are questioning whether the economic and political realities are responding to what we need in our lives. now, in a very cynical and very divisive way, donald trump took advantage of that. now is your chance to put

together the majority that will win big enough against donald trump that trumpism itself goes into the history books. >> i want to play what was, frankly, an uncomfortable moment to watch. this was a potential supporter of yours that when they found out you were married to a man, they backed off. let me play the moment. i want to ask you about it. >> so are you saying that he has a same-sex partner? >> pete? >> yes. >> yes. >> are you kidding? >> he is married to him, yes. >> well, then i don't want anybody like that in the white house. so can i have my card back? >> it's -- may not be fair but there's going to be voters like that. there's going to be some democratic operatives who are sitting there nervous going do you lose the white house because there's some voter who walks into the booth and just doesn't pull the lever simply because they have an issue with your private life. what do you say to those concerns? >> the first is what i have to say to that voter which is i'm saddened that she sees things

that way but i'm running to be her president too. no matter who she votes for as president, i'm going to get up in the morning and try to do a good job for her and for every american. another thing i was struck by in that exchange is how well our volunteer handled the situation, reflecting the values of this campaign. look, the reality is prejudice is still out there and you've got to deal with it. i would not have been able to get re-elected where i did in mike pence's indiana if people were not able to look past that. every time somebody seeks to break a barrier pundits try to make it about electability. >> i was just going to say, instead of being a pundit here, have you taken a moment to appreciate the history that you've made here? >> there's not a lot of time for reflection in a campaign. >> i understand. >> there was a moment we went out and it reminded me what this means for some kid peeking around the closet door wondering if this country has a place for them. i didn't set out to be the gay president, but certainly seeing what this means is really meaningful and really powerful.

>> if you come out of here with a shot of momentum, first or second place, you may have a shot of momentum, you're staring at michael bloomberg's $273 million -- i saw your eyes widen when you saw him in our spot. you and him are vying for the same voter. that's a big impediment in front of you. how do you deal with it? >> well, it's about our vision. i have a vision for this country that is about moving us forward. it's about ensuring that we draw together the energies of democrats and independents and even some republicans who want to cross over. and one thing we have learned is that money alone can't buy elections or ross perot would be the president of the united states right now. yes, of course fund-raising matters and being on the air waves matters, but part of what's so important about this process in the early states is i don't think you can skip having voters look you in the eye, ask you what you're going to do for them, challenge you, question you, and as the campaign goes on in terms of voters and reporters, seriously asking tough questions of all of the candidates, it has a leveling effect where money alone can't be the decisive factor.

>> pete buttigieg, i'm going to have to leave it there. thanks for coming on and sharing your views. be safe on the trail. >> good to be with you. >> thank you, sir. when we come back, the new hampshire primary front-runner, senator bernie sanders joins me next. as we go to break, some of what we've been hearing from new hampshire voters. >> i know there's a big bernie wave, but i'm really not sure how much he can unite the party. >> i just worry about the electability question. >> elizabeth warren all the way, but i will vote for whoever the democratic nominee is. >> bernie has an amazing following of young people. tender wild-caught lobster, dig in to butter-poached, fire-roasted and shrimp & lobster linguini. see? dreams do come true. or if you like a taste of new england without leaving home, try lobster, sautéed with crab, jumbo shrimp and more, or maybe you'd like to experience the ultimate surf and the ultimate turf... with so many lobster dishes, there's something for every lobster fan so hurry in and let's lobsterfest. or get pick up or delivery at redlobster.com

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22-point wins this year as it's become a toss-up between sanders, buttigieg and perhaps even more in this field. senator bernie sanders joins me now. welcome back to "meet the press," sir. >> good to be with you. >> i want to talk a little bit about iowa and '16 a little bit. you are a believer that your candidacy is about turning people out. at the end of the day turnout was disappointing, you admitted that in iowa. we don't see record-breaking turnout here, does this undermine sort of the biggest point you make on electability, which is nobody else can bring out the young vote but you. but if you can't get other voters, isn't that an issue? >> well, you know what, you're right. the voter turnout in iowa was not what i wanted. i think other candidates were not able to bring out their voters as well. but at the end of the day, we won the iowa vote by 6,000. we won the realignment vote by 2,500. where i come from, that's a victory. here's something really

important not talked about a whole lot. the young vote of people under 29 years of age increased by 33% over where it was four years ago and was even higher than obama's extraordinary victory in 2008. so young people did come out in very big numbers, which i think is a great omen for the 2020 campaign. >> except you can't win voters outside of that very well. you were in single digits among older voters. i say this because older voters vote. >> the answer is yes and no. the answer is we are having -- we have got to work on this issue because my record for senior citizens is a very strong record and we're going to work on that. i'm the strongest defender you can see in defending social security and so forth. but in terms of democrats, in terms of running against trump, we do just fine with senior citizens who will vote for me against trump if they're democrats. >> you have been railing in the different ways other people raise money. >> yes. >> if you're the nominee, michael bloomberg has said if he's not the nominee, he still wants to spend all his money defeating donald trump.

are you going to refuse that help? >> let's talk about money and politics. right now our campaign, as you know at this moment, has received more campaign contributions from more americans averaging $18.50 than any candidate in the history of the american politics. that's extraordinary. we are funded by the working families of america. teachers are the profession that is contributing most. we had a lot of contributions from amazon workers and so forth. we have, unlike my opponents, pete buttigieg, who was just here, really nice guy, i like pete. he has received, i believe, contributions from over 40 billionaires. joe biden the same. >> can a billionaire not have an issue about income inequality? can a billionaire not be wanting to see expanded health care? these are individuals too. >> they are. and mike bloomberg has every right in the world to run. he was mayor of new york city, he has a right to defend his record. but i think it speaks to a corrupt political system when billionaires can buy elections. you wanted to run for president? that's fine, but you should not

be able to spend hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars. now, by the way, to answer your question, because of the broad base of support that we have from working families, now, they may only contribute $25 or $50, we will be able to raise the money we need to defeat trump and i believe we are the strongest to defeat trump. >> do you not want this help? >> right now -- >> look, you have some -- you have pacs helping you. they're not necessarily super pacs, but you have some outside groups helping you. maybe you don't want them to help. >> i don't want them, that's right. >> but they are. there's half a million dollar -- some would call it dark money. >> some of them are nurses and some are immigration activists and civil rights activists. >> i understand that. do you not want their help? >> we have a system which is broken. >> i understand that. >> yeah, i'm saying right now if my opponents say they don't want that third-party help, i'm all for that right now. let's end it. >> but right now you'll accept the help. >> it's legal. what can i do?

people have a right to participate in the political process. but again getting back to the fundamental issue, the reason we have so much income inequality, the reason we are the only major country not to guarantee health care to all people, the reason almost new income and wealth goes to the top 1% is precisely because of the corrupt political system which allows billionaires to have inordinate influence over the economic and political life of the country. >> the other issue that has the democrat establishment -- >> do you think they're getting nervous? >> they get nervous and there's one word that gets them nervous, socialism. >> democratic socialism. >> democratic socialism. do you acknowledge that an economy that on its surface and i understand it is not working for everybody, but on its surface looks pretty good to quite a few people, this is a fairly low unemployment rate. do you acknowledge it's tougher to sell your economic ideas in this perceived good economy? >> i don't think so. i think trump is a fraud. i think under trump the top 1%, i've seen hundreds of billions of dollars increase in their wealth.

do you know what real inflation accounted for increase in wages was last year for the average worker? less than 1%. >> it's the first time it had gone up in a while. >> 17 cents an hour. >> hasn't been going up for -- >> but how do you talk about an economy that's working when the people on top are making hundreds of billions of dollars more and the average worker is making 17 cents. we need -- we need an economy that works for working people. and my agenda is that agenda. that's raising the minimum wage, that's health care for all, that's making sure that all of our kids, regardless of their income, can get to college or trade school by imposing a modest tax on wall street speculation. >> someone that likes their 401(k) but doesn't like the character of donald trump, how do you convince them to vote for you? >> i convince them to vote for us because we are going to create an economy that works for the middle class -- >> but they think their economy works well for them. >> for some of them it may. but here is the reality. half of the american people are living paycheck to paycheck. today you've got half a million people sleeping out on the

streets, when you've got three people owning more wealth than the bottom half of america. the only country in the world, major country in the world not to guarantee health care to all people. we've got 45 million people struggling with student debt. please don't tell me that this economy is working well for all people. it is working phenomenally well for trump's billionaire friends, not for working people. >> the reason i bring up the "s" word. democratic socialism, is because let's just take the swing state of florida, i grew up in miami. i know what they're going to do to you. they're going to tie socialism to venezuela, they're going to tie comments you made about morales in bolivia, they're going to say you will appease socialists in latin america. you have not condemned them the way others have condemned them and use that to try to wedge people. you know that is what they are going to do. >> look, we're dealing with a president who is a pathological liar. what am i going to do? he's going to say anything he wants about me, about joe biden,

about pete buttigieg. >> you stood behind morales when it clearly -- >> i stood with evo morales in condemning a coup. i do not like military coups. >> he tried to violate his country's constitution. >> well, that's another discussion. i don't know that everybody is interested in ecuador but he was overthrown by the military. not a particularly good president. we've got a president of the united states who's cozying up to the autocrat putin, who says nice things about kim jong-un. so you want to talk about cozying up to communists around the world. it ain't me. it's donald trump. >> let me ask you a few quotes from some members of congress who are concerned about your electability. if bernie sanders is our nominee it will make a lot of those trump districts we picked up extremely competitive and probably does put our house majority in jeopardy. connor lamb, i don't think i'd be doing my job as a representative to these people in western pennsylvania if i supported someone who wanted to destroy their livelihood. specifically he's talking about fracking. whether fair or not, this is the concern out there the among a lot of elected democrats.

>> this is part of the establishment democrats. what i am suggesting that is we are going to bring -- in 2016, and we'll see what happens in 2020, but i think the story will be the same. in a lot of districts which trump ended up winning, we won during the primary process. i think a lot of working people understand that trump is a fraud, that our campaign is in fact prepared to take on the billionaire class when trump is part of the billionaire class. i think we'll win a lot of those districts. i think we're going to increase voter turnout among young people very, very substantially. >> will it hurt your candidacy if these candidates say i don't support his agenda -- >> i think at the end of the day, and i have said this and repeat it right now. i think i can speak for all of the democratic candidates and that is we will come together to defeat donald trump. i hope i am the nominee. i will come behind somebody else if they are the nominee. >> in september of 2019 before your heart incident, you had said the following about your medical records. take a listen.

>> i think it's the right thing to do. the american people have a right to know whether the person they're going to be voting for for president is healthy. we will certainly release our medical records before the primary. certainly before the first votes are cast. >> the first votes have already been cast. you did not release your medical records. you released a few letters. nobody interviewed your doctors. you did have a heart attack apparently. shouldn't voters see your medical records? >> we have released as much documentation i think as any other candidate. >> but no other candidate has had a heart attack. >> no other candidate is doing four or five events a day running all over this country. >> i hear you. you have proven, there's no doubt you have proven your mettle here, but voters are concerned about your age. >> you can start releasing medical records and it never ends. we have released the substantive part of our medical records. we have doctors and cardiologists who have confirmed i am in good health. i am in good health. >> what changes did the doctors ask you to make that you've made? >> i'm trying to walk a little

bit more but the schedule doesn't allow me. they didn't say -- i'm trying to sleep a little better. sometimes that's hard. i'm feeling great, thanks. >> my guess is winning will help you sleep better? >> winning will make me sleep a lot better and i think we're going to do just that. >> senator bernie sanders, the independent democrat from vermont, be safe on the trail, sir. >> thank you. by the way, we did ask both joe biden and elizabeth warren to join us as we have every week this year and both declined. when we come back, new hampshire is known for surprises. remember hillary clinton shocking barack obama here in 2008? so what surprises may be in store for us on tuesday? the panel is next. store for us on tuesday? the panel is next. >> thank you, new hampshire, for welcoming us to this state over the course of the last year. >> with your help, we're going to win here in new hampshire. >> and i'm counting on new hampshire. >> thank you, new hampshire democrats! >> this is our moment, to dream

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we have breaking news out of iowa where the state democratic

party is updating the results from its first in the nation caucus. that happening on monday. the following numbers present corrected results where data inconsistencies were confirmed by the iowa democratic party, this after they review was completed. the delegate count, according to the iowa democratic party, now is buttigieg at 14 delegates, sanders at 12, warren at 8, biden at 6, klobuchar at 1. every other candidate getting zero delegates. that's for a total of 41. i want to remind our audience that the nbc news decision desk will not be projecting a winner in the iowa democratic caucus. the allocation of national delegates from iowa's national caucuses is according to the state's democratic party. the nbc news decision desk is not making any independent allocations at this time. joining me on the phone right now to discuss these latest results, nbc news director of

elections, john lipinski. the concern from the decision desk from the very beginning was the inconsistencies, the quality of the data. and after speaking and listening to the iowa democratic party, with these latest numbers, do we have better assurety? >> well, i have to say, i was on a call with them a few minutes ago, and they didn't really answer a lot of our questions. they kept telling us things like, they had to follow the math that was put down on the worksheets, the math sheets, as they call them. they went through the precincts. they said 55 they had to make corrections. they haven't been 100% consistence. that's one of the reasons that is so close, essentially a tie, buttigieg is still a little ahead, about a tenth of a percentage point or 2.8 state delegate equivalence, but we still want to make sure that the party doesn't have any other

corrections. we think these are the final numbers. but we're going to watch this. i mean, we have been watching it literally since caucus night, every night, just to see if something changes. to be honest, we're not 100% sure. that's one of the reasons we're just reporting the results of the iowa democratic party. they did allocate all of the 41 delegates. buttigieg is on top of the delegates. he's still barely on top of the state delegate equivalence or what we call the iowa caucus results. >> we have been able to report what they're saying about the delegate count. what about the popular count? will they be adjusting and relooking at that as well? >> yeah, they adjusted all of the numbers a little bit. and so when we look at the initial preference race, it didn't change anything. sanders is still on top. when we look at the state delegate equivalent race, which is the race where the national delegates, where they sort of essentially where they come from

that race, that hasn't changed either. that's like why, you know, buttigieg is still a couple delegates ahead of sanders for the national delegates. so i think what we're really seeing in here is that there's just a lot of sloppiness in the data. it doesn't appear that it actually changed the top lines. >> that is the interesting question, because as we have heard today, the way that bernie sanders campaign and pete buttigieg campaign have been going at it, i got more votes, i got more delegates. right? and that's why this information, if you want to say what they are saying and have the data behind it, they'll be listening to this. so this is good news for klobuchar. it was estimated by many that she would have a delegate. now it is confirmed. she moves on to the next debate, right? >> yeah, she did pick up her delegate, so that's important for her. we thought that she would get it, but again, you know, you have to base it -- you have to base it on the numbers. if you're not sure of the numbers, you can't do those types of -- you can't do those

types of allocations. >> all of the other candidates who are sitting at zero and they wanted one delegate, they have still until tomorrow to request a recount or recanvassing. do they have that ability still? >> i don't think actually they're going to. you know, i don't know how many more requests that are actually going to sort of come in. i think it seems as if the parties -- really probably put most of those out. i think the two campaigns that had the most sophisticated operations in the field were the buttigieg and sanders camps. and they had been sort of going at it from essentially the day after the caucuses. they were putting in requests. one of the interesting things is the media sets of the party and number of potential errors or inconsistencies and the iowa democratic party did say today they actually were ignoring those. they were only going to look at the requests from the candidates

themselves. >> okay, john, so great to have you. the very latest information. nbc new's elections director with this breaking news. the corrected results, again, 14, 12, 8, 6. buttigieg, sanders, warren, biden, klobuchar getting one delegate. that's the breaking news we have this hour from the iowa democratic party for you. we'll have more, much more on this story and coverage of the upcoming new hampshire primary. kasie dc starting in 20 minutes right here on msnbc. for now, we return you back to "meet the press" with chuck todd in progress. >> because if you look at a glide path, you would say, well, bernie sanders is probably the most likely nominee. and some people would say, that's the biggest risk for the democrat party. others would say, no, the biggest risk is bernie won't be the nominee. what does that mean to his supporters, his voters, where are they going to go?

because to the question of are democrats going to be unified. i would agree with claire. democrats will unify behind the nomin nominee, whoever it is. i never thought it would be as easy for trump to unify republicans going into the general election after that primary. the real question, though, is can that democratic nominee appeal to the middle? to the center, to those voters in pennsylvania and wisconsin and michigan. that's the question. >> whoever the nominee is going to appeal to a lot of women who think the guy in the white house is just a mess. and they're tired of the cay hc. >> the voter generally speaking who elected donald trump were those voters in wisconsin and michigan -- >> by the way, you're making a bernie case. in some ways these folks did want the disruption, claire. i will say this with bernie, when you look at the numbers of the bernie general election matchups with trump. you see it on the surface, it looked the same. the swing voter with bernie is much different than the swing voter with everybody else. >> that's true, but i believe the anti-trump is stronger in

the swing voter, at least in my state. i believe the swing voter in my state is more anti-trump than they are for or against any potential nominee in the democratic party. >> one other aspect, since you brought up african-american voters, i was interested this week so much was said about black voters and the plight of black people in the debate friday, which historically to have this stage of mostly white candidates talking very strongly about the need to support the black community historically is something. at the same time, i can hear black voters saying, if we're so important, why aren't we there? you're talking about us without us. cory booker is gone, kamala harris is gone, julian castro is gone. you have one asian on stage and six well-meaning white people telling us what you're going to do for us. >> can pete survive his south bend record with african-american voters? >> i think he can. look, we ain't stupid. we know how to google like everybody else. and i think if you have

perceived wrongs with the black community, you need to go talk to black people. i don't just mean talking to, like, one or two black exemplars, like go to a church, go to a community group, and just take questions and take the heat and let people hear you say look, maya cull paw, this is the sword, i'm falling on it, here's what i did wrong. here's what i have learned that will make me a better president to meet the needs of african-americans as it relates to equal justice, but you have to talk to us directly. >> very curious what he does post new hampshire. that probably becomes a one-track focus for that campaign. >> when we come back, why iowa may still tell us a lot about what could happen in new hampshire and beyond. stick around. aroundo remind you to go in for your annual check-up. and be open with your doctor about anything you feel. physically, and emotionally. body and mind. we all use our cellphones very differently. (vo) why the french family chose verizon. so, she's always on social media.

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welcome back. data download time. what happens tuesday night right here in new hampshire will either confirm what we learned a week ago in iowa or could hint that this race is far from over. but if we choose to believe what iowa taught us, there may be one

clear beneficiary, pete buttigieg. and you can see it when you look at what happened between the first and second vote tallies last monday night. as voters realigned, buttigieg saw his vote total go up by more than 5600 votes. it looks as if he took his votes from the other two moderates in the field, joe biden and amy klobuchar, both of whom lost votes from the first and second realignments. but that ideological consolidation did not happen on the progressive side of the spectrum. instead bernie sanders and elizabeth warren both gained by roughly equal amounts, drawing off votes from lower tiered candidates like andrew yang and tom steyer rather than from each other. in fact for all the talk about their similar positions, their supporters are pretty different from each other. warren's supporters at the caucuses were made up of more women but most of all she did 54 points better among people who caucused for hillary clinton in 2016 and only reasonably well

among caucusgoers age 17 to 44, the sangars stronghold. sanders did pretty well among women, but while he gets wiped out among clinton voters, he dominates among those younger voters. 82% of his supporters were in that younger age bracket. and that may make it particularly difficult for either to pull votes away from the other here in new hampshire, which then leaves who? buttigieg in an enviable position. first, unlike 2016 there's no competitive republican primary to woo those moderate and independent voters, people who may now go for buttigieg. second, if buttigieg can continue to take votes from biden and klobuchar as he did in iowa while sanders is unable to win over warren voters, he may be positioned for an upset with over two of new hampshire's neighboring senators. when we come back, end game. some republicans said they hoped president trump would learn a lesson from impeachment. and he may have. but what lesson was it? but what i do count on is boost high protein. and now, introducing new boost women... with key nutrients to help support

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♪ back with "end game." this is the week the president was acquitted. and he is pretty fired up about that. what's interesting is what many of the senators, who are uncomfortable with what he did, all hoped or claim he would

learn a lesson. take a listen to this. >> i believe that the president has learned from this case. >> they're vicious and mean. vicious. these people are vicious. adam schiff is a vicious, horrible person. >> i would think he would think twice before he did it again. >> we went through hell unfairly, did nothing wrong. it's called total acquittal. >> while i ask you about what lesson he learned, i want to put up this donald trump jr. tweet where he says allow me a moment to thank, and this may be a bit of a surprise, adam schiff. if it weren't for his crack investigation skills, night have had a tougher time unearthing what -- what lesson did he learn? >> i think lamar alexander said it best, you hope he did.

that he separates his personal thoughts and personal political thoughts from the issue at hand. but anyone who thinks his behavior or general tone is going to change is probably mistaken. think about four years ago. people said well, donald trump is an unusual person. but once he's running for president, his behavior will probably change and during the primaries, we've said we've never seen a primary like this, but you know if he gegts the nomination, his tone will change. then if he wins the general election, he'll take a different approach. how many time dooz we have to fool our selves? he is who he is. and at the same time it enabled him to win states republicans haven't won a in a long time and pass legislation on trade and criminal justice reform that most people would have said were impossible when he first assumed office.

>> chuck, all this did is reinforce the reality that donald trump, the reality star has learned over and over again. what did we hear on the campaign trail? i could shoot somebody in the middle of times square. now you can try to get a foreign power to investigate a political rival and you know what? you can step all over the republican partedy and they will let you do it. that is ultimately the lesson that has been sent by this republican senate, whether they like the or not. >> i'm struck by the things he supposedly got done. he did a trade deal basically nafta and pleased unions. a tax cut that pleased mostly 1%ers and a criminal justice reform that had senators before it hit the white house. there's nothing on protecting preexisting conditions.

he's a marketer and he's done it well. his marketing skills failed him when he frog hopped that purple hard recipient out of the white house. his number thins military have been steadily going down. >> i think that's going to be the most illuminating part. there's a bible verse that says out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth will speak. there's nothing new in this. what i thought was interesting was the optics from vernal vindman being walked out and reactions from people saying oh, my god, our democracy is at stake. i was taken by the fact that adam schiff and mitt romney gave two sides of the same speech after the trial. how history, how your grandchildren will judge what you do today. mitt romney was talk about who your allegeance is really to. is it to donald trump or to god? to the rock of your salvation?

there's a bible verse that says you cannot serve god and money. that was what romney said, you can't serve others and yourself. what i learned this week is this trial has crystallized for people across the political spectrum this is not a drill. this is actually a pivot point. >> so, i'm not a big fan of the way these firings were handled with sondland and vindman. but let's be clear, they were political appointees. they served at the pleasure of the president. and they're gone. the emotion and the drama that the media puts behind these firings is very typical -- >> the way he did it. he could have moved him. >> i agree they didn't do it well but this is so inside baseball. this is washington. this doesn't matter to the political arc we're talking about. >> mitt romney, he does spend

time here in the summers. what's your party going to do to him? >> nothing. absolutely nothing. >> you don't think there will be a vengeance campaign against romney? >> no. it's not as if they were close friends to start with. mitt voted his conscience. just because one person stands up and says i voted my conscience does not believe everyone who disagrees didn't vote theirs. this is where the washington media becomes self absorbed in assuming everyone who voted to acquit wasn't voting their conscience. >> a good point there. i will leave it there. that will do it here. a very busy new hampshire morning. we'll be back next week because if it's sunday, it's "meet the press." break out the butter lobsterfest is on at red lobster

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