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that wraps up this hour of "msnbc live." andrea mitchell reports starts right now. hey, andrea. >> right now, on a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports," live from manchester, new hampshire. state of the race. a day before the nation's first primary, local favorite bernie sanders' race to lose. >> hi, how are you?
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>> what do you say about -- after winning the most delegates in iowa, mayor buttigieg is taking fire from the other candidates. >> this is what i think wing feels like. >> fueled by a strong debate performance, senator amy klobuchar is counting on moderates and independents for her fight. >> you run a smart campaign. it is one state and we are moving on from there. >> while elizabeth warren, in massachusetts, is trying to avoid a disappointing fourth. >> look, i'm out there fighting for every vote. >> the once presumed front-runner, joe biden, is struggling at the plate. >> i'll be damned if i stand by and lose my country. it will not happen. >> reporter: spoiler alert, vice
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president pence and president trump are coming today right here in new hampshire. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new hampshire, the center of the political universe for the next 48 hours, where democrats are still shopping in a crowded field, looking for a standard bearer to take on donald trump. a new tracking poll today from "the boston globe" in suffolk university has bernie sanders in the lead. some surprises. amy klobuchar is surging on pete buttigieg's heels after her strong friday night debate performance. she's hoping that becomes a springboard for primaries to come. at a biden get out the vote event in guilford, new hampshire and von in new hampshire. von, first to you. >> reporter: good morning, andrea. this is pete buttigieg's moment.
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we said that in iowa, where he needed to come out of the midwest with the case that he's the one best equipped to beat donald trump. he left iowa with virtually a tie to bernie sanders. can he pull it off in new england? you look at recent polling, he had a serge of about 10 points in new hampshire. will it be enough to beat bernie sanders? it has been iowa and new hampshire with pete buttigieg performing strong. he needs a new hampshire victory or near victory to propel him to the next states, south carolina and nevada, where polling shows him in single digits and nothing to show those of color have grown. he needs to take a train with momentum out of here. in the next 24 hours, are those independent voters. back in 2016, on the republican
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side, 40% of folks that took part in the republican primary, said they were independent voters. independents in new hampshire can take part in whey ever primary process they want. expect more moderate independents to take part tomorrow night. the question is, how many will go to pete buttigieg. >> thanks soy much. mike has been following joe biden all along. how does joe biden pull it together with disappointments all along the trail so far? >> reporter: at this point before the caucuses, the biden seem senses it might be slipping away from them and messaging expectations. they hope for something of a comeback. a new hampshire surprise like we've seen in the past. they're certainly trying to push the conversation forward saying this contest is not really going to be decided until a more
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diverse state and diverse population has a chance to vote. they're looking at south carolina and super tuesday. the candidate himself, joe biden, is looking at donald trump, about to take the stage here. he will issue a pre-buttal saying essentially, the president is trying to sell a devil's bargain to voters, to get a good economy you have to sell the soul of the nation. he says, you can do both. >> thanks so much, mike. meanwhile, amy and pete buttigieg are competing to keep up with bernie sanders and potentially pass him. >> when you look at new hampshire, why do you think new hampshire is the right place for you and your message? >> it's the primary and just like my state and a lot of states across the country, you have independents voting as well as fired up democrats and more moderates registered as independents.
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it's not caucuses, actually people can just quietly go to the voting booth for whoever they think would be the best president. i think the fact i have all the newspaper endorsements for the major newspapers, every single one in the state of new hampshire in addition to the "new york times," that will matter here. people read through that and saw every single editorial board including the union leader made, and that is i can answer the tough questions, i can lead and bring not only our party together, i think people saw on the debate stage and last night at the inner, where i was able to get everyone there with me during my speech, but also i am able to lead our country. that's my closing argument to people, that we need a president that has empathy for people, very different from donald trump, and that can bring people with her. >> you made the case the other night about your record. you were really the first to challenge pete buttigieg not
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being experienced enough to be the leader of the free world. >> i think that should matter. we had so many debates, it was just about whose policy is better than whose policy. that's great. wait a minute. shouldn't we step back and see who has the experience to lead especially when we have a brand newcomer in the white house now? shouldn't we look at someone to work in congress and across the aisle and getting it done, not just with a talking point. >> why do you think he's doing well with voters? >> he has run a smart campaign. it's one state and we are moving on from there. i have always defied expectations or i wouldn't be stabbedi standing on the debate stage and people in entrepreneur. people in new hampshire. it's important to see if people don't just say the most popular thing in the room, impeachment
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is exhausting, i think i will turn the channel and watch cartoons. he said that. me, i was sitting there as doug jones took this incredibly brave joke, mayor mayitt romney in tet could change his future. i want people that make brave decisions. i don't care if he's in washington or washington is unpopular. you as a leader have to rise above that. >> what do you have to do to keep going. you have super tuesday ahead. >> since the debate, it hasn't even been 48 hours, we have raised over $2.5 million since the debate, from regular people online, without fund raisers, in this time period, simply regular people giving online. we see that continuing. that's how we will get to where we are.
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on that debate, a lot saw me for the first time. i don't have the name id of a number of my opponents. i didn't have the bank account. the more they see me the better we do. >> amy klobuchar there yesterday. joining me here in manchester is david plouffe, managed president obama's 2008 campaign. and msnbc political analyst, thankfully. great to see you, david. looking at the field right now, who is in the most trouble among the front runners? >> i think the question is -- you just spent time talking to amy klobuchar, there is a battle going on for third. and those in fourth and fifth may be struggling to raise the resources. i think bernie sanders is in the cat bird seat right now. if he did not win new hampshire, that's a blow. he has ability financially, known across the country, to go
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the distance. i managed an underdog campaign. we barely recovered from new hampshire. if it's amy klobuchar or pete, you have to keep exceeding expectations. i think bernie sanders is the most advantaged. >> probably the most threatenned is joe biden. take a look at joe biden and bernie sanders mixing it up over the weekend. >> he's a great guy. a great mayor. guess what? he's a mayor. this guy is not a barack obama. barack obama was a united states senator in a really large state. >> he says, this is his quote, he's no barack obama. >> he's right. i'm not. neither is he. neither is any of us. this isn't 2008, 2020. this is how we will turn the page and deliver a better future in the country. >> is it a good message for joe biden to say this guy doesn't
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have enough experience and he's not barack obama? >> i think he's got stronger messages than that. >> he has his own self, doesn't he? >> he has to sell himself. joe biden has empathy of what we've seen in politics a long time. he's starting to show a little bit of that. kennedy and carter all faced those attacks and generally our party gravitated to fresh faces. joe biden has such a strong lead in south carolina, and will do well in nevada, how poorly does he have to do in iowa and new hampshire to threaten that ability. if he goes for iowa, 4 or 5 here, south carolina could get interesting. not how well you do in the first four states, they lead up to march where most of the country votes. do you have the money or organization. >> money money money.
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>> i can't tell you how much the race changes in the next 18 days. we know sanders has the ability to go the distance and bloomberg does financially. i think everyone else, how to put this together. if you have one good night and that's it, thanks for playing, you're not the democratic nominee. >> james carville, who notably in 1992, saved bill clinton from multi-attacks, a lot self-imposed and came out of new hampshire as a strong second and managed to pull ahead of, and finally win the nomination. carville is really worried about bernie sanders, on "morning joe" today concerned he will bring the party down the way james corbin brought the labor party down in great britain. >> between bernie sanders and elizabeth warren, 40% of people in the state of new hampshire like what they hear out of them. they like the idea of medicare for all. they like the case they're making to the country. what do you say to 40% of the
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voters in new hampshire? >> 40% is not a winning number. it's not a winning number, okay? a winning number is 50%. we want theoritions, a revolution. i'm not for 40%. i'm for winning. >> is talking about a revolution with a socialist label a winning formula for the democratic party long term? >> we don't know yet. i actually think bernie sanders has clear strengths. he has a clear and consistent powerful economic message. he clearly has the ability to bring new people in the electorate, although we have to watch carefully what turnout looks like. we didn't see that in iowa. he has a populous economic message that can help in the upper midwest. i do think people are saying, if there's a safe alternative, i'm not going to vote for trump, sanders, there's a degree of difficulty there. i agree with james, all the ideas in the world, as important
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as they are, policy, inspiration, if you don't win, they're meaningless. i'm part of, andrea, the, you win the election or become the next wing of the democratic party. we have to get this right. i'm not ready to say bernie sanders -- the rest can win and he can't. i do know there's a segment of voters out there just looking for a more comfortable alternative. politics is numbers. how do you get to win number. if somebody like bernie sanders can win some numbers back, even though he's a socialist because he has a clear economic message and if bernie sanders cannot consistently increase turnout and registration. >> he didn't do in iowa. >> that was one state. we need a candidate that can do it all. trump is finding and registering a lot of voters and will blow out turnout on his side.
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bernie sanders, you look at how do you get to a win number? he might be relying a lot more on turnout and registration than someone to do more on the persuasion side. we have to have a candidate who can do both. what james is capturing is what democratic voters are agonizing over. they're trying to say, i'm here in manchester but what about someone in wisconsin or tucson, arizona. >> scranton, pa. >> scranton, pa. trump has a lot of vulnerabilities. i don't want to overstate his strength. this will be a difficult election to win. voters have a responsibility so set the stage. >> thanks. a day ahead of the voting, simone sanders has leapfrogged ahead to south carolina and doesn't start until the 29th. what does that tell us about expectations.
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test test test what happens when a college student is asking questions in new hampshire. >> they usually win the national election. >> a good question. number one, i was a democratic caucus. ever been to a caucus? no, you haven't. you're a lying dog pony soldier. >> she was really offended by that. she told the "washington post," what did he mean by using that epithat about her. i'm not sure i understood it. is that the way to talk to voters? >> it was a joke. many people in the room laughed. it was a line he has used frequently from a john wayne movie.
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look, andrea, the reality is there is not a better resale person than joe biden. his ability to reconnect with folks was last wednesday at a town hall on another network. people were drawn in as he talked about his struggles as the 11th child and how he helps other individuals and keeps in touch with them struggling to overcome. we truly believe our time in new hampshire has been well spent. we look at the larger picture about this race, this democratic nomination. donald trump is in manchester tonight. the reality is donald trump is going to be hard to beat. anyone who saw him hon the state of the union should realize it. people should also watching the state of the union, we have to beat donald trump and we need a commander in chief ready to go day one and not only ready for
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the top of the ticket but down the ticket races. we need a hard fighter and taken hits and kept on running. that's joe biden. since the beginning of this, joe biden has led in two races, i would argue, in the democratic primary and race against donald trump. >> simone from south carolina, as we watch joe biden in guilford, new hampshire, looking for votes here. coming up, what is mayor buttigieg's campaign saying about all the attacks? live on msnbc. at fidelity, you'll work with an advisor
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don't let anybody tell you you have to choose between listening to your head and listening to your heart, between the best way to govern well and the right way to win big. >> annie kuster joins us now, the only member in congress in the entire delegation to come out for a democratic candidate. you come from a political family, your mom was a state senator.
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why did you decide to take a leap of faith to the former mayor of south bend, indiana? >> i had a unique opportunity and got a chance to meet almost all the candidates. i've been doing this for a year. at the end of the day, i was looking for somebody that had the energy and ideas. most important for me was that temperament issue. i think voters are exhausted by this president. i think the vitriol and drama, we used to call it during the obama campaign, no drama obama. i don't have a good rhyme with buttigieg. i feel strongly mayor pete has an incredibly calm temperament and that's what we need to win in november. >> amy klobuchar went after him did joe biden this weekend for lack of experience on the national stage. does she have a point? >> just look at the record of democratic u.s. senators making it to the white house. generally, the people who have won have come from the outside.
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so bill clinton. barack obama had barely set foot in the senate before he was running in 2008. i was one of the first people on the ground in new hampshire behind barack obama and worked that entire circle with david plouffe, you just had on. that whole energy that lifts people up, new ideas, not the same old same old going on in the senate forever. that's what i'm feeling in these incredible crowds we're having. we had close to 2,000 people in nashville in the core of my district in the southern tier. you saw a lot of new people coming in. you see progressive democrats, absolutely, that's how we will win this. you see independent undeclared voters turning out and plenty of republicans fed up with this president. that's the coalition we will win with in november. >> now, here in new hampshire, this is -- have you ever seen it this undecided?
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>> i have never. i started my first presidential, i was 16 years old. i was a delegate for john kerry, worked on the obama campaign close to two years. i have never seen the undecideds this high, this late in the game. i think what it's about, the responsibility is so great this year. we have got to win in november and get our country back. we have urgent issues around healthcare and climate change and higher wages, that we need to get solving. they know about the dysfunction in washington. they know about the dysfunction in the u.s. senate. the house has passed 400 bills that are now sitting on mitch mcconnell's desk. that kind of gridlock is really on the minds of the voters, and i think that's why they're gravitating to pete. they're looking for a candidate not only we can win the white house but the house of representatives, win back the senate and really move forward with our agenda.
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>> congresswoman, annie custer from new hampshire. >> thank you. wonderful to have you in new hampshire. >> thank you. we love it in new hampshire. the independents sway, which way will they swing this year? live from manchester only on msnbc. ♪ we'd be closer to the twins. change in plans. at fidelity, a change in plans is always part of the plan.
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vote, now happened in iowa. from the gore campaign and director of the center and the campaign manager for barack obama in 2012 and joe, union leader, endorsed amy klobuchar. you, joe, why amy klobuchar? >> i think she has the best chance at beating trump. she's a u.s. senator with experience and she's not out on the left fringe. and she's a woman. that's not getting a lot of play these days, but i think it will affect people in the voting booth. >> bob shrum, you've seen new hampshire's undecided voters before. annie kuster was just telling us, she's never seen it like this. it's hard to call it other than bernie sanders seems way out
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front. >> what's happened here is the center left or moderate candidates are attacking each other. bernie sanders has stayed in that boston globe poll around 26%. there was a point pete buttigieg was ahead of him, now down to 19%. if you believe that poll you have to believe this back and forth has had a big impact. vice president biden has a part in it, hoping against hope he will not come in fourth or fifth. that will damage him. you have to be honest about it no matter what anyone says. this could end up being michael bloomberg's best scenario, bernie sanders doing very well and the rest of the field looking muddled and bloomberg having the massive resources he does to compete on super tuesday. >> stephanie cutter, you have seen a lot of new hampshire primaries.
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you have seen a new tracking poll that does not show the amy klobuchar bump we have seen. it's a muddle. we don't know whether to trust one tracking poll over another. they have a big margin of error. it's up for grabs for anyone except bernie who has a built-in advantage here. >> it's pretty clear bernie has an advantage on the left wing of the party. everybody else is clustered in the middle. that middle has become a circular firing squad and they're also splitting each other's votes. not sure new hampshire will give us much clarity. i think whoever comes in first, second, third, can carry momentum. i think if somebody is a joe biden coming in fourth or amy klobuchar coming in fourth, there are questions about their campaign and what happens next. >> joe, what about independents
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in new hampshire. how would they cotton to mike bloomberg coming in from behind, ignoring the early primaries and pouring maybe $2 billion into a campaign super tuesday and trying to collect delegates. >> i don't think it works for him at all either here or national. it's one multi-billionaire taking on another. multi-millionaire, trump. i think people are recoiling at buying the elections. in new hampshire, especially, i think people take offense. you don't have to campaign here but you have to put your name on the ballot. hell, eisenhower did that in '52, he wasn't in the country. >> he was such a war hero. if you're advising a democratic campaign and we will talk to monica alba, unfortunately who
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has the task of standing in the freezing rain with the trump supporters, been there since last night waiting for president trump to arrive tonight and probably shut down the roads and preventing other candidates from getting to their voters? >> i guess i'd tell my candidate, let's not campaign in manchester, let's campaign some place else. that would be the first thick i would say. second, i think it's an opportunity for each of these democrats, to go at the president directly. he's a public figure unlike anything we have ever seen in our lives, and he alienates all democrats and he alienates a lot of independents. your question about independents is very important. they were the margin for john mccain over george w. bush in 2000 when they poured into the republican primary. i assume the pollsters are trying to figure out which independents will vote in the democratic primary. it may explain the discrepancy
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in the poll, more independents in one and fewer independents in another. >> good point. amy klobuchar told me that's what she's counting on, counting appealing to those moderates. thanks to all very much. coming up next, where are the women, after women won big in 2018 in the big terms, why haven't women candidates broken through to a greater extent with the voters this time around? live in manchester, new hampshire, live on msnbc. shire,c how bout no? no.
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2018 was banner year for democratic women candidates around the country, helping the party retake the house and win several big governorships as well. what is happening this year? i caught up with amy klobuchar yesterday on the trail and we talked about that. >> i've been wondering why only two years after the midterm showed women democrats winning everywhere, taking over the house and taking over statehouses, why are you and elizabeth warren the last women standing in this race? >> i can't go through everything that happened with the other
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campaigns because we had tremendous candidates. it is what it is. i just think that unique things happen. i do believe a woman can beat donald trump. in fact, i think a woman uniquely can beat donald trump. >> you don't think it's an advantage this year? >> i don't look at advantages or disadvantages. you don't always need the tallest person in the room or loudest voice in the room. who can win. not based on gender or merit. i'm the one that brings the receipt. it's not any of my opponents who have won in red districts over and over again or won with independent suburban voters. >> let's discuss. joining me now the author of the "washington post" "power up" and from the "washington post" and be beth, nbc senior editor, previously in boston and knows
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new hampshire better than anyone else. the women this year, amy klobuchar having a strong moment coming off a strong debate performance, perhaps at the expense of elizabeth warren if amy klobuchar could leap into third place and could help cement bernie sanders potentially as these places move around. >> i think what we're seeing, as you well know, the biggest consideration for democratic voters this year is who can beat president trump. all about electability. there is skittishness in new hampshire and iowa voters as well. the last person to run against president trump, hillary rodham clinton, did not beat president trump and there is concern about how much gender played on the outcome and figuring out who to get behind, there's a little bit of worry, perhaps it's not time to nominate a woman to run against president trump again.
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the verdict is still out on that but that is a concern on many voters. >> you can see the frustration of somebody like amy klobuchar, who has been in the senate and back home a prosecutor, looking at pete buttigieg. she klobuchar, elizabeth warren brings up gender a lot. amy klobuchar does not. i thought it was really interesting that in the iowa entrance polls elizabeth warren ran third among women voters behind pete buttigieg. behind bernie sanders. and i talked to some women who were caucuses for buttigieg at the caucus i went to, and i was surprised at how forthright they were about their doubts that a woman could win, including one told me, you know, i'm a lot closer on the issues to elizabeth warren than i am to pete buttigieg. but i'm caucusing here for him because i think he could win. >> jackie, that's a real anomaly. because women did -- well, women
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didn't help put hillary over the top. she lost a lot of moderate republican women in the general, but in the primary women did fuel her candidacy. >> i want to say the one time where amy klobuchar does bring up the fact that she's a woman is when she refers to the glass ceiling he's broken in minnesota. she's the first elected female senator in the state. with hillary clinton as well. really untenable impossible position. there's no data that shows women underperform in general elections. but a lot of women, especially in the iowa exit polling have said that they had really serious concerns about sexism. but then on top of that, there's a layer of when you're talking about pervasive sexism, if you are a female candidate, you're not addressing the issues. that hurts you. you see a reticence from amy klobuchar to fulfill that head
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on. it's a self-fulfilling prophesy that drives concerns among voters with female candidates. >> i want to play a little bit of senator warren from friday night's dinner where she had a good reaction. >> this is not a time for small ideas. this is not a time to nibble around the edges of problems. this is not a time to be vague and elusive. this is a time to step up and when we see a big problem, offer a big solution and fight for it. >> warren, a strong candidate here. obviously neighboring massachusetts. but klobuchar punched through more in the debate friday night. >> it's interesting. her play was supposed to be iowa. she comes from minnesota. she always talked about how she represents flyover country. for her to come in fifth where
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she was going to make her stake was a big problem for her. however, she decided she's going to fight here and keep on going. really try to push through in the debate. did. which seems to have fueled this momentum we're seeing. elizabeth warren did not push through that much in the debate. oddly, given that she's been a pretty forceful person in the debates up until now. i will say senator warren is starting to talk about gender more than she ever has. she certainly didn't at the beginning of the race. now that she's been clamoring for more air, she's making gender a factor. unclear whether that's her comfort zone, but that's what she's decided to do. >> beth, karen, and jackie, thank you all so very much. and coming up, counter programming. president trump looks to try to upstage the new hampshire primary tonight. he's going to have a big rally a few blocks from here, a few hours before voters head to the polls. you're watching "andrea mitchel reports". stay with us. ports" stay with us hi, i'm bob harper, and i recently had a heart attack.
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>> reporter: yes. even since yesterday morning some of them. the president is technically on the pal lot tomorrow, but he's basically running unopposed. this is more a testing and flexing of a general election organization muscle and might. but these folks here are hoping to hear from the president and many of them told me that the biggest thing is the contrast with the democrats and while they're trying to figure out who their nominee is going to be bott battling it out, the president has a clear message. we're here to counter program. they want to be on the front papers of the local media. receive a lot of the coverage tomorrow. take a look to what a few of the folks told me why they're standing here for so many hours in the cold. >> i want he wants to come to remind people how things have changed. how things have gotten better for new hampshire. >> what do you make of the democratic field? >> clown show. it's -- ridiculous. it lacks any kind of common
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sense. >> so remember, this is a state the president narrowly lost to hillary clinton in 2016. they're trying to make a play for november, and the general election. andrea? >> monica alba, doing duty out there with the trump supporters. thank you. and we have some exciting news to share for the documentary that we featured at this year's meet the press film festival. director carol dicinger's extraordinary film "learning to skateboard in the war zone if you're a girl" won for best documently short sunt last night. it documents the steps toward freedom for young girls in kabul as they learn to break cultural norms as they learn to fly free. this film is wonderful. congratulations to carol on her oscar. check it out online. and that sit for today. make sure that you join us for
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all of our election kovrnl here in new hampshire. remember to follow the show online in facebook and on twitter at mitchel reports. and now here is ari melbourne in new hampshire. >> thank you. good afternoon. we are live in manchester, new hampshire. i think you can hear a pretty amazing crowd gathered here. as for this race, we are now 11 hours away from the first primary votes being cast in the granite state, a new poll released from the boston globe at suffolk university showing bernie sanders with a lead. pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar trailing just behind. joe biden not in the top three and the stakes could not be higher for him. meanwhile with hours to go, candidates ramping up their contrast and attacks. >> i know how serious new hampshire voters take the responsibility, take the influence, take the thumb on the scale that you have. >> that is what tomorrow is
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