47-43, including the margin of error. this was taken last week. that is the brand new poll showing six leading democrats would beat donald trump in a general election in terms of the popular vote if taken today. i'm going to see you right back here from new hampshire tomorrow at 3:00 p.m. eastern. thank you for watching. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace starts right now. >> hi everyone. it's 4:00 in new york on a day of clashing visions on what party unity looks like. on one side g orkop devoted to flag raens every gop senator looked the other way. on the other side a party so desperate to defeat trump, that its public struggle with nominating a self-proclaimed

democratic socialist is leading to some very public angst and efforts to coalesce around a non-bernie alternative. "the new york times" writes, quote, for all its division, they've been united for a year on the goal of defeating trump. and even as attacks flew on sunday, the candidates continue to pledge they will lock arms and work together in the general election. the melee complete with dark illusions of billionaire donors and sarcastic references to political inexperience showed how difficult that task could be if the primary become as prolonged and acramonious affair. "washington post," quote, party unity is breaking down, just as voters express rising concerns that none of the remaining candidates is fully equipped to take on an incumbent president who regular scoffs at political norms of civility and accuracy.

and undecided voters, quote, like iwiens, many who remain undecided until the last moment about 1/3 of new hampshire voters remain undecided, with sanders and former southbound mayor pete buttigieg appearing to have momentum before the tuesday primary. a recent tracking poll out of new hampshire shows bernie holding on to his sizeable lead with mayor pete, amy klobuchar, joe biden and elizabeth warren following. the state of play in new hampshire is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. msnbc news correspondent von hillyard and msnbc national affairs analyst. also joining us from "the washington post." co author of "a very stable genius." and with us at the table "the new york times" editorial board member who went face to face and toe to toe with all of the democratic candidates. along with campaign director at

the action fund, wjuanita tolliver. what is in the air in new hampshire? and things got nasty. >> well, hi, nicolle. this is -- this weekend was the first time this race felt like fully engaged. senator whose had spent so much time in washington during impeachment and so a weird kind of airy kind of uncompressed quality. we were all here this weekend. the whole field was here and competing in the way people normally do in the tight window between the iowa caucuses and the new hampshire primary. a lot of action on the ground. everyone was out and about and doing a lot of events. and because of that, you take the temperature of what's going on. you mention bernie sanders and

pete buttigieg have the momentum. that's reflected in the numbers. sanders was ahead in new hampshire before iowa. he still seem fweezs to be ahead in new hampshire after iowa, turning out big crowds round the state. pete buttigieg seemed to have gotten the bump out of iowa and came here, claiming the narrow victory of delegates. he had 1800 people at an event, which was a very large event. and you've seen big crowds for him all weekend long. and then there's the third candidate who seems to have positive momentum and that's amy klobuchar, who got hot coming out of the debate where she performed well by most measures and where she took on mayor pete and some others. she bounced out of that debate, raised $3 million over the course of the weekend and last night at an event i was present, packed the biggest crowd she's

seen in the entire cycle. and you're seeing her move up from fifth to fourth, maybe third. she could end up being the person who comes around and has the big surprise tomorrow night if these tracking polls turn out to be true. that's where the momentum is right now. with joe biden having momentum on the way down and a campaign that feels like it's reeling and staggering around all weekend long and then elizabeth warren who seems flat, as flat as can be. not going up, not going down but not in a great place. >> let me follow up on one sort of historical question. the analysis of the 2016 gop primary was that it was being fought in brackets. is that what klobuchar's momentum can be chalked up to. is in that bracket as a n

non-bernie/warren option, it's becoming a knife fight between warren and klobuchar as opposed to buttigieg and biden or somebody else? >> on saturday he hit buttigieg pretty hard, both with a digital ad making him as a small-town mayor. the biden campaign did. you were also seeing feuding between all three of those in the center left, if you want to call it, moderate wing. and a lot of klobuchar's upward momentum has come from biden. and i can't, i think there is genuine competition in those lanes, people are looking at who is trying to consolidate the vote in each of those sectors. it's why sanders, having not quite won in iowa but come close and now having the lead, he's the expected frontrunner and won four years ago. the fact he seems to be

consolidating the progressive slot and caused so much despair in elizabeth warren's world, because the reality is this is a battle for the hearts and minds of the right and left. >> von hillyard, you're on the ground. you know the buttigieg campaign more than anybody i know. did he get all the bounce and momentum he deserved for coming out on top in terms of delegates in iowa? >> reporter: he was in the lead in iowa with the message he was able to go to iowa, not only rural parts of the state and he was in plymouth. one of the rural committees here in central new hampshire but you guys were speaking to this year. pete buttigieg and bernie sanders are effectively trying to make this a one-on-one race. they're only mentioning each other. they're trying to create the narrative it's down to the two of them. but it's amy klobuchar

continually becoming that wild card factor in the state. we can only make so much of anecdotes. 42% of the electorate are registered independents in the state. in the 2016 gop primary, i was just down the road. this fellow named ed milky, he said i'm one of those independents. he says i was considering voting for bernie sanders but i'm going, after seeing her in the national event, amy klobuchar. i met liam in the fall at an elizabeth warren event. he's a senior at dartmouth. and i asked him where do you stand now? quote, my heart is with elizabeth warren. but national polling has me worried. i like pete but worried he's unproven. my number one issue is electability. the senior over in dartmouth is going for? amy klobuchar.

why? her strong record of winning in minnesota combine would a progressive enough policy platform makes her the best compromise candidate i'm able tool find. in the fall, she was no mention from liam. he said he's going to hanover, new hampshire and vote for amy klobuchar. to what extent is this a two-man race? i have no idea. >> seems like he may have read your editorial where the "the new york times" seemed to have ascribed to my theory of the case that they're -- klobuchar was the one you put on top. >> i was going to say sounds like that voter has been spending time with the "the new york times." they sound just like we do. i mean, listen, i still think it is extremely early and i don't think the race is going to coalesce until the super tuesday states and specifically a state like south carolina, which is

actually far more rpepresentatie of the democratic party as a whole. that's when we're going to see urban voters, black voters. and i think just a wider swath of suburban voters as well. and so, i think we're waiting for that. i think the fear that's driving democratic voters is real, the anxiety. i continue to believe this is a race that's going to be won with gotv get out the vote effort and door knocking. just old-fashioned campaigning on the ground. >> to your point, our friend, sam stein has a great piece out. he quotes a voter, quote people are saying vote the issues, vote the issues. bleep the issues starts with and rhymes with duck. he says this is all about getting rid of trump because if he wins, i don't think our democracy can survive. >> that captures the electorate.

but i'm a field girl and i'm looking at new hampshire like, oh, elizabeth warren is going to deploy all of new hampshire to knock on every door of new hampshire. i'm not ready to count her out. andyi i'm not sure klobuchar --t worked for her. but i'm not sure she's made the long-term investment to have a ground game there. it's not a good investment to think it will pan out. >> and piercing through this narrative that trump's unbeatable seems to have gotten in the heads and maybe the fear of his ability to step in the laws of gravity that pull down normal politicians after being impeached and investigated and caught lying 16,467 times or whatever your newspaper's count is. let me play this and talk about it on the other side. >> he got 44.8%.

he suffered the worst electoral debate in the house ever. it was the highest turnout against him since women were given the right to vote. polling average is 42.3%. he's so powerful. no, he's not. >> that sounds like donald trump's re-election strategy. just trying to be better than democratic party. and trump understands he's vulnerable to any, even slight dip in the economy in terms of his political standing. >> president trump's re-election is going to depend on the economy. but there is an incredible anxiety on the democratic party. i spent the last few days talking to a number of senior officials, others in the party who were really anxious and

agitated about trump's resilience. and last week he had his highest approval rating yet in the gallop poll. he's going to have a larger crowd than any of the other democratic candidates have had in new hampshire and that stokes fear in the hartearts of a lot democrats. they know he's beatable and historically unpopular and still they fear it may be harder to take him out than they anticipate at this stage. >> so what role does the gop walking along like zombie followers play in their anxiety? i've spent my career tracking independent voters. when president bush was at his weakest was when his own party was beating him up. how much power does it give trump that his own party is willing to greenlight all of his

tress passes? >> that's everything. the fact president trump had conduct with ukraine and republican senators acknowledged was wrong and improper and yet only one republican would vote to convict him, mitt romney, and the fact so many republicans are standing by him and have stood by him through everything. through the "access hollywood video" through all the norms he shattered in office and obstruction in justess throus i impeachment inquiry and the fact they're still cheering for him as they were in the east room in the white house is a chilling picture and un of the reasons why there's so much anxiety in the party is they're trying to figure out who can take trump on. >> kwint peacas national numbers. which they're largely irrelevant in the actual states. but they do speak to this dynamic on this angst. bloomberg beats trump, 51% to

42%. and he's on the mind and the lips of everyone i have talked to lately in politics and media. sanders beats trump 41-43. klobuchar, 49-43. warren, 48-44. buttigieg, 47-43%. are you hearing it from voters or is this sort of a halo around what is a really savvy media. >> nicolle, it's true, you're not. he's on televisions. and you hear from voters talk about mike bloomberg.

i'm just telling you in terms of the atmosphere, the ambeance, we will return to voters as i have been out every day for the last week. fwlrs not who are you going to vote for but in the end who do you think is going to be the nominee? about half say it will probably be bloomberg. because they understand money talks. and again, i'm not saying that in an approving way. i'm just telling you people who see bloomberg constantly on the television and thinking how do you beat donald trump? a lot of voters say i don't know much about the guy but i've heard he could out-spend donald trump 2: 1. i want to see if he could be the right guy or not. a lot of democrats are enthused about some of them. many of them are confused about

which one to choose and out there on the horizon and the question is whether it's going to turn out to be the "wizard of oz" and people go, huh? that's a question. but right now bloomberg is a big, looming force. you look at the national poll, not the -- i don't care very much about. >> i know where you're going. black vote numbers. is that where you're going? >> yes. the fact there's this national number that has mike bloomberg at 22% of the african-american vote, five points down from joe biden who previously had this impreginable dominance with black voters, to see bloomberg heading towards half a billion and eventually a billion dollars. the fact he's standing at about a quarter of the black vote, that's going to send shivers of

terror down the spine of not only biden but democratic nominees. the fact that he's at close to a quarter without really competing in the early states, having stood on the debate stage, that is incredible. >> all right. jason johnson took me here friday. let's just go there. these numbers for bloomberg suggest three things. one, the african-american vote is up for grabs. and a fight has been waged. but would appear buttigieg, warren and sanders did not prevail in what has gone on so far. the black vote is not static, although mike bloomberg's stop and frisk policies were wildly inpopular, seems to be something that voters in the frame of the emergency that most african-american and latino voters view donald trump, they're willing to give him a second look. is that accurate? >> it's accurate and shouldn't

be lost on us that a lot of the ads mayor bloomberg is run having to do with other issues that effect african-american voters. gun violence, for example. health ppt. and just his opposition to donald trump. so, that is the number one thing that black voters want to see. they're extremely strategic and quite savvy voters. >> and the most important part of the democratic coalition. i guess what confuses me is bloomberg was able to, with money, put these messages in a record uneven. on law enforcement issues, it's not a great record. why wasn't this a better effort made for other candidates? >> i'm not sure they tried. >> why didn't they try? >> it's a massive overlook to think you're going to take the presidency without african-american voters not

fully turning out for you. so, it's really unconscionable we have candidates who have not even made the intentional effort. but you know who has? steyer. in south carolina i've seen him hit 18% at state level. those monetary investments around health care, gun violence p prevention and he highlighted that barack obama has also doted on him and been a supporter of him. and that's a figure that will drive african-american turnout. >> my only sort of window into this is how republicans treated the evangelical vote. they could not win. and even donald trump for all of his lunacy does something every day to remind them on what he's done on judges or cultural issues or whatever it is that he sort of code speaks to them. to keep them locked in for him. this is to the democratic party

as important as the evangelical vote has been to the republican party. what are you seeing on the ground in terms of outreach? >> reporter: it will be interesting as soon as tomorrow ends, when pete buttigieg these nevada and that poll among black voters. he's been campaigning more than a year and they contend they have to go one step at a time and by the time they get to south carolina, they'll be able to introduced him better to the electorate. but they'll only have one/two weeks to do that. one million ad by. compare that to bloomberg. they don't frankly have the same resources. he's heading to california for fundraising. because this is a campaign that's traditional and needs that money. he was able to prove that he's in the best position to win the midwest coming out of iowa.

at the same time michigan, wisconsin, as you know, those states are not exactly iowa. you have to go to milwaukee county where they saw significant declines in turnout. the question is whether buttigieg can pull that off. >> please come back tomorrow and tell us what it feels like on election day. after the break, did donald trump make fools with a vengeance tour against one of his donors, a purple heart recipient and his brother. we'll go inside trump's purge of impeachment witnesses. and lindsey graham outs barr for colluding to carry out politically-motivated investigations even ukrainians refused to do. and mike bloomberg goes after trump that takes advantage of trump's own words. advantage of trump's own words. (howling wind)

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the editor and chief of law fair goes there. in a provocative historical frame you may or may not agree with but it will make you think. he draw as parallel to the post world war ii poem. which reflects on the rise of the nazis and reads in part, quote, first they came for the communists and i did not speak out because i was not a communists. then they came for the socialists and i did not speak out because i was not a socialist. then they came for me and there

was no one left to pespeak out r me. he writes this, quote, first he came for comey and i said nothing because i was mad at comey for the clinton email investigation and blamed him for trump's election. then it came to andy mccabe and i said nothing and then jim baker and i said nothing and leeszau page and peter struck and i said nothing. yovanovitch and i said nothing. and then he came for lieutenant colonel alexander vindman and his brother and i said nothing because i was used to it. whether you agree with his take or not, it does beg the question what are we witnessing from this president in this moment? joining our conversation, former assistant director of counterintelligence at the fbi and political reporter for "the new york times." frank, i start with you.

what are we talking in terms of political vendetta, witness punishment. it's not even intimidation. what are we watching? what has the gop greenlit? >> i'm calling this strategic vengeance. it's not just to harm those who tried to do the right thing personally against the president. it's designed to have a chilling effect on anyone who tries to do the right thing. it's why everyone seems to be operating on fear and intimidation. that's how this president operates. and the idea of vengeance as a strategy is playing out right before our eyes. and it's not over yet. we're going to continue to see the fbi officials who started the russian counterintelligence

case, we're going to see this hanging over their heads right through the election in the form of the john durham, ag barr investigation. we're going to start to see a flip side of strategic vengeance, which is strategic forgiveness. we're going to see pardons and -- >> like who? >> flynn. >> right, flynn. >> yeah. i'd start with mike flynn. look, here's the thing. we saw a decorated, uniformed officer walked out of the white house. he's got to figure out a way to balance that with the military. a lot of my military friends, that didn't sit well with them, that sight. get a uniformed guy and pardon him. >> your colleagues reported on a

handful of senators and after what mitt romney said was so clear he couldn't do anything but vote to convict and remove. tried to stop him from punishing sondland, who happens to be a donor to republican campaigns, but not vindman. a handful of republican senators were concerned it would look bad for mr. trump to dismiss sondland and argued it was unnecessary since he was talking about leaving after the senate trial. among the republicans, susan collins of maine who voted to acquit mr. trump and thought he had learned a lesson. i tried not to laugh. others include martha mcsally and ron johnson of wis wisz. wisconsin. when has donald trump ever learned any lesson other than to be more emboldened than previously emboldened? >> he might have got more defense. gordon sondland's given a

million and a half dollars to republicans, including senate republicans. it's hard not to view that as an act of defense. and he was on his way out. it shows you how intolerant the president is for any criticism within his own party and ranks. everybody who breaks ranks has to be excommunicated, made into a fake, a shcharlatan, a fraud, corrupt. there is no descent within his own tent. and deprives oxygen of other potential whistle-blowers, people who may see something happening and want to come out and will think twice. >> this weekend was, you know the rest of the vengeance list, the to-do list. he attacked joe mansion, went after vindman in vicious and

personal terms. i think he or judge judy, whoever she is, saturday night, went after romney. this is his concerted. his allies are threatening mitt romney with the threat of violence. this is nasty, ugly, being directed from the top down. >> it's ugly and being directed by a president who's full of rage and wants to seek revenge. he spent all day sunday on twitter attacking and airing his grievances against a long litany of suspects. and by the way, it was a beautiful sunny day in washington. but it fits a pattern of behavior from him and i don't think we should be surprised. and it will probably continue. one thing we should remember about sondland and vindman, they were following a lawful subpoena and answering questions truthfully without a lot of editorialized opinion on the president.

they were simply providing the truth as they knew it and for that, they'd been punished. >> let me ask you to button this up from where i start. he puts a provocative frame around retributions. but there is a sense among washington that if you keep ducking and weaving, you can avoid the wrath. he's coming for everybody and anybody that ever expresses any disple displeasure with anything he does. is there an exception i'm missing here? >> i don't think anybody avoids the wrath over the long run with this president. for this president, there is simply no tolerance for disloyalty or personal or political betrayal. and trump himself is the measure of what that betrayal is. so so, it could be as simple as appearing on the cover of "time" magazine and that got him cross wise with the president. he's always looking for ways people are not being fully loyal to his satisfaction.

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so rudy giuliani last night said he's got the goods on hunter biden. they told me take very cautiously anything coming out of ukraine against anybody. >> you said you talked to attorney general barr. >> this morning. >> this morning. >> has the department of justice been ordered to investigate the bidens? >> no, the department of justice is receiving information coming out of the ukraine from rudy -- he told me that they have created a process that rudy could give information and they would see if it's verified. >> what? rudy writes crap on napkins and hands them to lev parnas. what the bleep was nat? >> all i can say is it's like watching a reality show about the mob. what's going to happen next week? >> here's what we know about rudy. he's under criminal investigation by sdny. they have him indicted for felonies , lev parnas and lev's

partner. they gave it to the attorney general of the united states and said guy get hunter biden? this is bananas. and if trump wasn't purging purple heart recipients, i would have loved this story. because i had a job working in opo. this is what you give to the 22-year-old opo guy at the rnc and you usually don't know their name. now the attorney general has replaced the opo guy. what is this? >> they're turning this into a version of the dossier. although back then on the right they were incredibly concerned this dossier was being reviewed.

i think of all the people, we have him on record threading conspiracy theories and lies. i have not seen anybody lay out what supposed crime they committed, under violation of the rules, what official act was taken. >> the evidence doesn't matter here. he's like you don't even have to investigate. just announce it. that is enough to interfere in u.s. election and that's what barr and the doj is being positioned to do right now. >> is frank figliuzzo with us right now? what does this look like in the fbi? so rudy and pompeo write on napkins. lindsey graham just announced on national television rudy gave the same stack to the country's attorney general. do they pdf it and hand it to chris wray? what does this look like inside the fbi? >> first, i'd like the establish my own process.

it's a conspiracy hotline. please dial 1-800-utter bs. usual spelling for bs. if you have a concocted conspiracy theory proven wrong by our entire intelligence community and proven to be russian propaganda, please call 1-800-utter bs. lin seriousness we don't know the extent, if any, to which the fbi is actually going to be involved in vetting this nonsense. we have an agency that investigates this stuff. it is the fbi. lin -- in all seriousness the attorney general is saying i'm going to have my own investigation on the origins of the russia case. i can't trust the fbi to vet what rudy's doing. i've gaurt this. let's not trust our institutions. that's what's the most disturbing thing of all of this. the american public buying off

on the fact that the ag's going to handle all this by himself because we can't trust our institutions with it. >> and they confirmed what lindsey graham seemed to blurt out yesterday about rudy giuliani. let me ask you. donald trump is on the record with your newspaper saying he wanted to be protected by his doj. is this a corruption of justice? do you have enough information to say that or are we just heading in that direction? >> we're heading in a direction where the attorney general no longer stands for justice. and eventually will need to be disbarred and called to acounted for all he's doing for our institution sdwhz concept of justice. look, this is a distraction. put this right along side the same track as the personal ag

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like because this has never been employed before. we are don't know how this ends because there's never been a candidate willing to spend unending amounts of money to disrupt a race that he or she doesn't feel is going the best way to defeat the president. it's on everybody's minds. every campaign person i talk to acknowledges the topsy turfy of this. >> there's also something about bloomberg's campaign where he's trolling trump where it hurts. his appearance, his -- i mean there, are three triggers. a source close to trump said to me this weekend that as good as he feels about being acquitted, he's still not as smart as he wishes he were, as physically attracted as he wigszs shes he or as wealthy as he would like you to think he is. is that going to have an effect and make this an even dirtier

election? >> yes. but here's what i keep coming back to. what we know about politics right now in the democratic party, nothing tells me the democratic primary voters bill former republican as their candidate so i understand that all of this -- the twitter trolling, this money he's spending is all very interesting and novel and crazy, frankly. how successful it's been. but at the end of the day where does this leave him? bernie sanders, who couldn't be more opposite than bloomberg is cleaning up so far, doing quite well. i just don't know how you get from bernie sanders on the precipice of winning to the democratic party putting mike bloomberg atop the ticket this year. i don't understand how that happens, it doesn't compute for me and for most democrats watching. >> all right. don't go anywhere, jake. the table's nodding with what

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i disagree with what was said earlier because that appeals to voters. >> disagree with jake? >> yeah, yeah. >> i disagree with jake. i see a scenario where this plays to voters' interests. throw out the playbook. hit trump where we know it hurts him and paying off because he's nicknamed. he is getting under his skin. >> little mike. >> little mike. >> it's more simple that, you know, can bloomberg -- because he is rich and can do right now what all the other candidates are talking about doing, take it to trump. they're all campaigning on the notion that they're the best person to take on trump. but they're fighting each other first and bloomberg can say i'm doing it, taking him on and it works. >> yeah. i just think it does go back to black voters for me to drive this process more than iowa and new hampshire. we were discussing this during the break but black voters are

not looking at bloomberg saying i wish i could vote for someone that will stop trump except for that stop and frisk thing. they want someone who looks strong and i think as biden looks weaker and weaker bloomberg is stepping in and we'll see if he fill that is void. >> jake, i'll let you rebut your rebuttal. whatever it is. >> well, i don't really have one. i mean, i understand all these points. the interesting thing -- my rebuttal is i have no idea and we are all kind of in a guessing game and i think that voters tend to respect in my estimation the process that gets you to the nomination and mike bloomberg is pointedly not doing that and what nick said is right. he is co mike is saying that's cute.

>> we'll see if it works. jake, thank you. come back tomorrow and see how it feels on election day. we'll sneak in the last real last break. what do you think? i don't see it. only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ ♪ applebee's new irresist-a-bowls now starting at $7.99. now that's eatin' good in the neighborhood.

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