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critically important contest, more so for a democratic party eager to turn the page after the caucus meltdown in iowa. democrats could be headed for uncomfortable territory. the moderate wing of the party is fragmented and bernie sanders atop not just the new hampshire polls but the national front-runner if you believe in these things. according to the new quinnipiac poll out this afternoon, leapfrogged biden or argue biden leapfrogged behind him. bloomberg into third place nationally but skipping the first four states entirely. the trend we are seeing nationally and locally is that of a majority of democrats do not support sanders, a large majority party and they have not settled on an alternative and biden continues to struggle, looking at a disappointing finish here, fourth, fifth? pete buttigieg is trying to seize the momentum after the iowa performance but amy klobuchar going after buttigieg
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hard friday night. the end result tomorrow sanders battles expectations, the moderates have been battling each other. >> we have a newcomer in the white house and look where it got us. i think having some experience is a good thing. >> the way that we win is to offer a new voice, a new perspective and leave the politics in the past in the past. >> politics of the past i think were not all that bad so i don't know what about the past barack obama and joe biden was so bad. >> the biggest risk we could take at a time like this would be to go up against that fundamentally new challenge by trying to fall back on the familiar. >> he's been the mayor of a city smaller than the city we are in now and what has he done? who's he pulled together? does he know the foreign leaders? >> he did try running once in indiana statewide and lost over 20 points and that's just a fact. >> today, though, it felt as though some of the candidates toned down the criticisms. kristen welker spoke to biden
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this afternoon and worried if the attacks on buttigieg in particular may have backfired a bit. >> not at all. it didn't backfire at all. look. what i did i responded to his attacks on me. he said basically barack obama and i didn't do much at all. the problems started before this president became president. we did a pretty good job. >> are you concerned there's so much in-fighting? >> look. you have covered this from the beginning. when's had more attacks sent them to anybody in the race by a factor of five? me. because i've been the front-runner. remained the front-runner nationally. i have a target on my back. there are certain things to clarify. the constant assertion like bernie saying i have baggage. talk about baggage. he's a good guy but let's be realistic. i'm just responding to the assertions and attacks that have been made that, in fact, are not accurate, not true. >> we're going to be checking in
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with a number of the campaigns this hour and the reporting teams on the ground all over the great state. we have a great group here with me in new hampshire. just across the street from a trump rally. jason johnson, andrea mitchell, ruth marcus and don tace. andrea, we have got a mess on our hands here if you're looking at the democrats. it is -- is it really a repeat of what the republicans went through four years ago right in this very moment in this state? >> with joe biden playing the role of -- >> jeb bush and bernie is trump and marco rubio, chris christie -- no? >> looking at the new national poll and kristen interviewed joe
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biden just before the quinnipiac poll -- >> bernie is ahead, not biden. >> losing what's been his base. the african-american support which he's looking toward south carolina. but really, down, down to 27%. a sharp drop. cut in half. >> all of the support went to michael bloomberg. almost looked like it transferred there. jason, bernie sanders is the neighal front-runner or none of the above? >> calm down. we have literally had one caucus, which was a mess and a primary and see what happens there. if i were bernie sanders i'd be happy. obviously he's maintaining momentum after basically not winning in iowa. if i were mayor pete, he could still win tonight and -- >> tomorrow. still have a day. >> the most dangerous thing if bernie sanders is the front-runner it's very dangerous
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that the base of the democratic party basically skipped you and gone to mike bloomberg. a 50% african-american support of joe biden to 22% now supporting mike bloomberg. >> the bernie numbers didn't budge. >> that's bad. >> pete buttigieg from 0 to 4. >> there you go! greatest increase. >> i think he -- bloomberg with the greater increase there. >> but percentage wise. >> there you go. >> don't do math on me. i'm the andrew yang at this table. >> what -- is -- can the democrats handle this fight without freaking out? >> that remains to be seen but very much not because you asked about whether bernie sanders is the front-runner. the democratic nominee is going to need to get a majority of the delegates. tell me the path to getting for any of these folks to getting the majority of the delegates. ian you asked andrea about
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whether this is republicans 2016 and new hampshire all over again. it could be way -- i mean, i don't mean to be debbie downer. it could be far worse than that. nobody is getting out. and that race emerged with trump victorious before a convention. lord knows what we are heading into now. it is just -- could be weeks if not months of muddle. >> bring us back to new hampshire. i was out today and yesterday and the day before. there's predictions of a record breaking democratic primary turnout. it doesn't feel that. it's anecdotal. are we overhyping turnout? >> perhaps. i mean, i think it will be the case that undeclared voters choose a democratic ballot over a republican ballot for the most part but i think -- >> how many will we have? that's the story of whether bernie gets over 30, pete wins
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or not. the independents, right? >> yeah. the problem is that democrats here in new hampshire when all is said and done saying this looks like a b-level field of candidates, no one head and shoulders above the rest like barack obama and hillary clinton were in 2008. even the top tier have severe problems with at least one faction of the party if not multiple problems. >> dante just used the perfect b-level, jason. this is no offense to anybody. one of these people will feel like an eighth person. they just -- i get why he says that. it feels like there's no star. >> there is no star but this is the other thing. this is what i'm hearing out and about the country. a lot of people are saying, very enthusiastic voters saying you figure it out and i'll figure it out when you decide. they may have their excitement spread across multiple people and they're waiting for somebody
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else to make the decision. you can't tell me that people aren't excited about bernie sanders. that may not be the majority. >> that's the advantage here. bernie sanders has a huge advantage in new hampshire which he did so well in -- >> 60%. >> four years ago and he's still local. they're enthusiastic and not denied and that's the other problem going forward. there's a huge resentment. if biden collapses. if there's a stop bernie movement. that is going to be to hell to pay with the bernie people who are so committed. >> jonathan lass put in the bullwork today about how -- ruth, we have all been on the receiving end of the bernie online brigade. he says no other candidate has anything like this digital brown shirt brigade except for donald trump. the question is this, what if you can't win the presidency without an online mob?
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what if we live where having an online army popping anywhere is an ingredient for or a critical marker of success? >> wow. >> everybody's freaking out it but you saw the maga rally. people coming from three or four states. this is like bernie. >> that is a really depressing sentence that you just read. and we saw a little bit of this at the state party democratic dinner saturday night where pete buttigieg was talking about how it's not -- you can't always have a revolution and the bernie supporters there, great flashing purple signs, starting to chant wall street pete, wall street pete. this is the makings of an ugly primary season coming ahead of us and the makings of a potentially ugly general election campaign. >> this is the part of the campaign we never worried about four years ago. >> what if we get to the
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convention and bernie sanders does not have anywhere near a majority but a plurality? 35%, 37% of the delegates and says i won more primaries, i have more delegates, i dare you. >> you don't have super delegates anymore. >> on the first ballot. >> you don't have the members of congress to be the elders. that was exactly the reform that the bernie sanders people demanded. >> i want to say this about the online army. again, we have all been victimized and encouraged and responded to. you say one word -- >> critical word of sanders. >> sort of attack like a pack of dogs. those people, never been a person to say twitter is not real. they're actual people. >> 70% of the country. >> they're sort of talking to home but the vast majority of americans aren't on twitter arguing about these things. no one in the history of twitter convinced of anything.
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you already feel some way and then you want to argue with other people so i don't necessarily think that's an indicative of anything. >> we call bernie sanders a national front runner? very quickly, this from the quinnipiac poll, the person with the largest lead is michael bloomberg, andrea. >> wow. >> just saying. >> has done very little retailing campaigning. meeting the voters. >> that is i think making the next debate we shall see. first interesting test here. let's pause the conversation here and i have a list of fifth place finishers in the new hampshire primary to unveil. later in previous years, you ask them how they did after new hampshire. we have more ahead this hour including two presidential candidates standing by. tomorrow catch primary coverage all day here on msnbc. i'll bring you live election results streaming for nbc news on the nbc news now app. we're coming to you live from manchester, new hampshire. keep it right here. (howling wind)
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welcome back. as we mentioned a day earlier -- earlier, a day before the primary, bloomberg not campaigning here surging nationally according to the new quinnipiac national poll and here tom steyer who spent more money on tv and radio ads than the rest of the field combined. steyer, however, is banking on a strong finish not here in new hampshire but south carolina, where, believe it or not, he is campaigning today and tom steyer joins me from south carolina. welcome back. let me ask this basic question. you're the biggest spender here in new hampshire and you are not here. why? >> i was in new hampshire all last week, chuck. i take new hampshire really seriously. i flew out here last night. there are two other early primary states.
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nevada and south carolina. which are also really important. so i've spent last week in new hampshire. and i'm trying to make sure i stay ahead of the game in the other early primary states. >> you have an advantage being able to fund your own race and i look at the ability you have spent a ton of money in iowa, a ton of money in new hampshire and so did a bunch of your opponents. in south carolina you basically been out by yourself and been able to gain some traction. are you concerned by everybody else engaging in south carolina your numbers go right back down? >> well, actually, chuck, if you look at nevada i'm at second or third place there, too. there we have a substantial ground game of people going door to door and talking to people directly. and the exact same thing is true in south carolina. as you may know, i'm somebody who built one of the biggest grassroots organizations in the united states next gen america
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so i love grass did troots, talo people directly. i'm doing it today. i'll be doing it now to the end of this campaign. so in nevada and south carolina, we had a chance to build substantial ground games and i think that's a big part of the success in both those states. >> are you somebody that's concerned bernie sanders can't win this nomination? i mean, can win the nomination and can't win the general election against donald trump? >> no. i am not one of the people who's ever going to join a stop bernie campaign. i'm someone who believes and i think you have heard me say this, chuck, in order to beat donald trump you have to be able to take him on and beat him on the economy, that he is running on the economy, on his record on the economy and on the idea that democrats will kill jobs. and as somebody that built a business from scratch and knows a lot about job creation i can take him on, on the economy, and beat him. >> why is it that you're better
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prepared to do than joe biden? if you make an economic argument, some people think that's not a good idea in this economy, it is a harder campaign, say you do, why isn't joe biden the better person to make the economic argument since the biggest argument democrats make is that this expansion started in the obama administration? >> because in order to win this argument, chuck, you will have to be able to show that mr. trump is using misleading numbers, that he's basically lying about the impact of the economy in terms of working americans across the board, that, in fact, yes, the economy is growing but the increased income has gone to rich people. unemployment is $7.25. this is basically the mar-a-lago economy and what we're going to do differently to really create growth, to create broad based growth, in fact, the fact that mr. trump's economy is really a
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continuation of the ragan economy which is always about cutting taxes for rich people and big corporations and favoring rich people and big corporations at the expense of working people for 40 years. you have to be able to make that argument and make it stick and understand really what drives economic growth in order to do it. >> you're trying to make this pitch to a democratic party that those that want a campaign on the economy want to do something like elizabeth warren or bernie sanders and reshape the way our economy works. you really have a -- what is it that -- is it elizabeth warren wealth tax? what do you want to do to reshape this economy right now? >> let me say this, chuck. i proposed a wemt tax a year before elizabeth warren and hesitate to call it the elizabeth warren wealth tax but it is really about building prosperity through people. we are talking about, one,
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redoing the tax system including not just a wealth tax, not just ending the tax breaks for rich people and big corporations, but also, treating investment income like earned income at the same rates which enables us to give a 10% tax cut to every american who makes less than $250,000. so start with taxes. then move to wages, working towards supporting unions and a much higher minimum wage and jobs created through a climate smart infrastructure program. it's a completely different way of thinking about the economy and a completely different priorization of investing in people. we're talking about rebuilding the whole united states of america for climate and creates more jobs than any job program in the history of the united states. >> very quickly, i'll admit i
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was surprised to see you become the candidate on attack friday and with paid media. what motivated you to do that? >> well, listen. when i was on that debate stage on friday night, i was listening to the exact same policy discussion about health care that had been in every single other debate. and are those differences between medicare for all and a public opg on the affordable care option important? sure. but only if we win and what i was not hearing on that debate stage is the fact that the most important thing for every primary voter to focus on is who can beat trump and if we can't beat trump then none of the differences make any difference. it is absolutely important that we ask two questions. you've been asking them on this show. one is, he's running on the economy. you have to have the experience and expertise to understand
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growth and job creation in order to be beat him. that's one. i can do it. that's my history. two, we need a united democratic party and that goes across a bunch of different parameters. you have been talking about sort of if i may, the difference between the progressives and i'm a progressive and the so-called moderates. >> okay. >> but there are a lot of different ways to cut our electorate and the traditional democratic party an one is race and i also if you heard me on that debate stage i said we have gone through two thirds of this darn debate and nobody has mentioned african-americans, no one has mentioned latinos, asian americans or native americans, no discussion whatsoever about the fact that we have a very wonderfully diverse democratic party and country and we have to address those issues directly and have that be a gigantic front of the bus part of our discussion or really not doing
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our job and then all of a sudden that changed the conversation. >> all right. tom steyer, you did change the conversation at that debate. that is for sure. >> a couple times. >> thank you very much. be safe on the trail and i appreciate you coming on and sharing your views. >> thank you. joining me here in new hampshire, the senator of colorado, michael bennett. welcome back. >> thank you. great to be with you. >> why shouldn't some democrats who are unaffiliated looking at this, hear what he said, watch the debate the other night, see and go this is a mess? >> well, this is early in the process and trying to sort it out an democrats are really anxious about who can beat donald trump. >> to the point of paralysis. >> what people say to me now is can we get to the general election? because i know i want to beat trump and not sure -- >> hit fast forward. >> i'm not sure who the right person is to beat trump and
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independents looking at it they don't want to vote for trump. but they're looking for a candidate that they can vote for on the democratic side here in new hampshire. >> you guys got a struggle here. there's say 70% of the electorate shopping. 30% loves bernie. let's assume that. >> right. >> there's a whole bunch of you trying to get a piece of the 70%. he gets to be the tallest tree at 30% for a listeniong time. >> he is off to a good start and likely to do well tomorrow, as well. i have said that i admire bernie's ideological commitment to his ideas and integrity. he never says anything that's false but i think he's taken us in the wrong direction and i think tom steyer is wrong saying it doesn't matter what our health care proposal is. last year -- >> number one issue if you poll people. >> in 2018 we ran on offense because trump is the first president in american history to
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take health insurance away from millions of people. we flipped 40 seats. of those, 39 people were for a public option. one was for medicare for all and now do we really want to be on defense on our signature issue going into this election? he says it doesn't matter. this is how you win. we need an agenda that actually can overcome donald trump. this country -- like my friend jim carville says. we shall not make it easy to re-elect donald trump. >> i get it. 70%. they like enough of you. don't love any of you. that's the thing. they have fallen in like. >> started with a lot of candidates. i was one of those. it took time to sort out. people in the race i love and admire left the race. i think there is a lot of it in the social media aspects of this campaign are unlike any other campaign. >> your message, i want pete, do
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you sort of look at how pete is now garnering republicans and independents going the unity message works? >> yeah. >> you were on it. cory booker. pete maybe hit and the timing. always sometimes when you got in or all this stuff. does it make you feel better that he is surging with that message and klobuchar? >> that message, my message, where the american people are. i think there's a question whether somebody like that can -- like me or pete -- >> get in the primary. >> i have no doubt that somebody with that message is going to be a stronger candidate. >> have you thought about -- look. you win third or fourth here and shocked the world as carville said. mcconnell and his pineapple. too good of a quote. have you thought about how to reach out to the 25% bernie crowd? what do you think -- i've had some people say clinton did a
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terrible job. they didn't think she reached out to them. >> i have worked with bernie on a bunch of stuff, mostly ownership oi opioids. >> big in vermont. >> and we have worked on that together. my plan to change the tax code is as progressive as anything anybody has in this race. i think my plan is more progressive than what most people have. cut childhood poverty in one year by 40%. bernie's folks need to hear that and understand that. it really is important for them to come and be with all of us. we have to be united. the division we saw in new hampshire isn't going to help us. woe didn't come together in 2016 and lost the election to donald trump. >> big rally across the street tonight. >> that's right. >> united republican. whatever you think of him. >> totally united. we have our work cut out for us. almost nobody thought donald trump could win last night.
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donald trump didn't think he could win. you better believe they think they'll win this time. and if we don't get our act together, it is a shame on us and we're making this decision today. the general election is too late to make that decision. >> i have heard some democrats tell me if you can't find a candidate to beat trump they're leaving the party. >> we better find a candidate to beat donald trump. we can't afford another four years of donald trump. >> michael bennett, stay safe out there. >> thank you. >> stay safe. >> this is the town hall after 90. 90 town halls. >> see what happens. stay safe out there. we'll head out on to the road with our own road warriors next. obama: he's been a leader
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throughout the country for the past twelve years, mr. michael bloomberg is here. vo: leadership in action. mayor bloomberg and president obama worked together in the fight for gun safety laws, to improve education, and to develop innovative ways to help teens gain the skills needed to find good jobs. obama: at a time when washington is divided in old ideological battles he shows us what can be achieved when we bring people together to seek pragmatic solutions. bloomberg: i'm mike bloomberg and i approve this message. it took plenty of work to get here. but it's still important to be prepared for what's next.
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welcome back to this special edition of "meet the press daily" from new hampshire on the eve of the primary tomorrow. i went a little over with two of the candidates there, great interviews. my team of road warriors covering the action and they have to give us two minutes of reporting in less than a minute. mike memoli, shaq brewster, vaughn hilliard. and those are my big three right now. memoli, go. biden. i saw him with a teleprompter today. what's up with that? >> reporter: well, chuck, i think the predicament of the campaign in can be summed up with what we saw in the last block and the commercial break.
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tom steyer in south carolina. in the heart of hearts the biden campaign wishes to skip ahead themselves and started to campaign in the states they say are the firewall and might be slipping at the moment and a commercial that aired in our break from michael bloomberg with a number of visuals of president obama and mike bloomberg. biden doesn't have the money to compete with him right now and what you have seen and what they have been able to do, go after mayor buttigieg. no pete buttigieg attacks on the teleprompter. the attack on donald trump tying up traffic a block away from you. >> for sure. shaq brewster, i got to think the sanders campaign is smiling today. everybody else is knifing each other. >> reporter: that's exactly right. almost like they do the bidding for senator sanders. bernie sanders came into new hampshire feeling pretty good. looking at the average of polls he was always ahead and more polling today suggesting that that lead is extending nationally so the campaign feels
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good about that. here in new hampshire, this is a state he won in 2016. he's a neighboring senator and if you look at the people behind me, he feels like he has grassroots support. they're having the strokes and then congresswoman cortez. something he is saying on the campaign trail to see the historic turnout here in new hampshire. you will remember, chuck, he did not get that in iowa and that led to the tie in delegates though he did win the popular vote there and wants to see turnout here in new hampshire and hoping to do that tonight. >> yeah, the turnout numbers i got to think disappointing for team sanders. now check in with buttigieg. vaughn hilliard, i heard mayor pete today go after sanders. nobody else. >> reporter: exactly. bernie sanders is the one candidate that he is naming because he wants to characterize this as a two-man race and doesn't want anybody talking about joe biden and amy
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klobuchar. he will be here in milford, a couple hundred folks lining up here. can this be a two-man race? i was talking to ed wil i ckey saying he was mulling sanders but he is voting for amy klobuchar tomorrow and i met andrew at a buttigieg event a couple weeks ago and as he said he love it is former south bend mayor and same time he said that there's time for pete buttigieg later on. he goes, right now he is showing up for bernie sanders tomorrow. is this a two-man race? we should have a better idea in 24 hours. >> that's for sure. look at you following my ep's orders. well done. we'll be back on this new hampshire primary eve. when i get my teeth cleaned, my hygienist doesn't use something like this. she cleans with something like this.
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i don't have the biggest bank account by any means. i don't have the name i.d. i didn't run for president before. we're excited about the crowds we are seeing in new hampshire. and just the kind of momentum we are seeing on the ground. it is really exciting for us. >> welcome back live from manchester, new hampshire, where we are hours away from the first votes being cast, you know, the dicksville and harts locations and that's midnight tonight and also where we're going to see senator klobuchar is making a final pitch to voters hoping to be the breakout star of this debate. campaign fund raising is rolling in now. $3 million since the debate. justin bowman is joining me now, campaign manager for amy klobuchar. i assume the plan was to catch fire in the backyard of minnesota and take it to new hampshire. it is rare you see the reverse probably with a slightly
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disappointed in iowa and taking off here. better late than never. >> i'll say we were a little -- it's a little bit late because of the impeachment trial. amy was in washington, d.c. for the two weeks. if she had been in iowa i think we would have done better. with late deciders that would have made a difference. >> you're in an enviable position and not often in the sec contest a third place finish can be a positive because of where you started and you are in this i think position where no other campaign can feel -- would feel good about a third place finish. i think the question i have for you guys is where do you go from here? you have to start winning. you know? if you sort of qualify to move on and whatever that means then i think we all know it's sort of you know it when you see it, where do you start winning? >> i think we have got a team on the ground in nevada and south carolina. we have got folks on super tuesday states and a big fund raising weekend and we are going to bring our message to the
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voters about how amy can win and what she's done in minnesota and different than what other people have to offer and we have a different feel of weeks and help determine the best places and where we will win. >> you have to borrow sort of cliche metaphor. build the airplane as it takes off. >> that's right. >> up against a fleet of airplanes and a guy named michael bloomberg. it feels like an impediment that's very hard to break through for a candidacy like yours. >> he's trying to do something no one has ever done, skip the first four states. if we do what we need to do tuesday night and then nevada it's going to make quite a bit of difference move forwarding. >> it is a fine line going on attack. present a contrast as senator klobuchar did with mayor pete
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but then there's a line you can't cross. people called her the mini chris christie moment. is that a compliment or not? >> that's a bit much. amy points out differences when they exist, whether it's be mayor or with senator sanders or elizabeth warren and vice president. and that's what she did on the debate stage. >> she i thought very adroitly presented this it is easy to trash washington. every does it. but guess what. people do -- are hesitant. do you think that that is still a roadblock that the first snam name of senator, bennett, booker, that is people hear that and think washington? >> i think american people want something different. they gave this current president a try, someone not been to washington and look for someone to get there and get stuff done and amy has a proven track record there. and she's got -- shown that she can put together a coalition to win and that's what everywhere i go and you hear it, as well,
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democrats care about who can beat donald trump. >> is the biggest impediment joe biden then? because the vice president basically is running the same -- has the same message, hey, i get things done. >> yeah. >> you know? it is a very similar -- there isn't a huge difference between really what either one is proposing, perhaps just a generational difference. >> i think that we have a better -- we have the receipts. she is getting more done more recently and won in a swing state, purple state. delaware is not a purple state and amy's won everywhere there. 98% of democrats and every congressional district every time. >> if you guys are in the position of basically being the leading moderate versus sanders the leading progressive, how do you win over his voters eventually you have to to be the nominee? >> again, democrats want to beat
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donald trump and the greatest motivation that all of us will have come election day is donald trump and we'll come together as a party. >> you think -- the bernie supporte supporters for something else. >> i think there's some of that but i think there's bernie sanders supporters that want to win and i don't think that they're quite as lockstep as you may think. you heard in the previous segment sanders supporters switching to klobuchar. >> third place a win for you tomorrow night? >> we'll see. we have lots of momentum. i wish we had more time. >> one more day type of thing. >> yeah. >> every good campaign wants one more day. justin bowman, be careful out there. thank you for coming on. >> thank you for having me. >> we'll be back live in manchester, new hampshire, primary eve. stick around. daddy, is that where we're from? well, actually...we're from a lot of places.
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facing. these are your previous fifth place finishers in democratic primaries back to '92. kucinich. low lieberman. he called that a tie for third. that for third. jerry brown in '92. rubio, fifth, santorum fifth in '12. ron paul, gary bauer, richard lugar. what do they have in common? >> none of them. >> to be the nominee. it's tough to explain fifth place away in a state that has swing voters. >> right. and especially on the democratic side. at least some on the republican side you can say new hampshire republicans are a different breed than you find in iowa or in south carolina, but democrats, new hampshire democrats idealogically aren't all that different from iowa democrats. so there is no that excuse that new hampshire doesn't really fit what i'm trying to campaign on. >> what does biden do?
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>> well, i can tell you what some of the spin is going to be if he is in fifth place. you will get a little bit of, well, neighboring state senators have -- >> that's two. >> how do you explain the two? this case -- >> i'm giving you the best spin. i'm not saying it's the most convincing spin. >> the best spin of all is when we were here in 1992 and bill clinton placed second to tsongas and called himself on election night the comeback kid. >> that was reasonable spin. that was spin where actually -- >> he went from 18 to 25. >> the neighboring senator argument did actually have some -- >> okay. >> convincing value. this does not. >> and i asked the biden campaign about pete buttigieg because they're asking the claim about the new england senator. what happens if he defeats joe biden? and they said this state is more demographically friendly to pete than other states like nevada and south carolina. that may be the case, but still.
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>> the college degree. this is some of the highest postcollege degree state. he and elizabeth warren both do well with those voters. >> that's very true, but there is a quinnipiac poll today that shows how much of an open wound iowa was and how new hampshire could turn that into a fatal wound. he o on the issue of electability, he is down 17 points. this is his single selling point. he is down 22 points. how you sustain that with a second loss in new hampshire? >> one of the most damaging things you mentioned earlier you came from an event where he was using a teleprompter. >> last day. >> on the last day, this is not the state, this kind of retail politics. people are comparison shopping. they're going from one to another. they're trying to make up their minds. you've got all the nondeclared who can decide on which ballot they can take. that's 40% of the electorate. they don't want to see someone reading a teleprompter speech. >> who has done it the teleprompter way? michael bennet has tried.
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are new hampshire voters not rewarding that the way they used to? >> they are rewarding pete buttigieg. he has a great ground operation equal of warren and sanders. he has done lots of events in the state. warren came around and did a lot of events over the course of the year. i think there was a lot of grassroots politics. even sanders you can argue he is more rallies than town halls. the top tier did it the new hampshire way i would say. >> and amy klobuchar is trying to do it the new hampshire way. >> she had to go all in iowa. >> she was handcuffed by impeachment. that was the real problem for her against these two home state senators who are next door and could make it very easily. >> joe biden is not the front-runner, then i guess bernie sanders is. and i want to play my exchange about his medical records from yesterday because at some point he is going to get front-runner treatment. here's what he said to me about his medical records. >> the first votes have already been cast you. did not release your medical records. you released a few letters. nobody interviewed your doctors. you did have a heart attack
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apparently. shouldn't voters see your medical records before tuesday? >> we have released documentation as i think any other candidate. >> but no other candidate has had a heart attack. >> no other candidate is doing four or five events a day running all over this country. >> i hear you. you have proven. there is no doubt you have proven your mettle here. but you heard voters have been concerned about your age. >> you can start releasing medical records. it never ends. >> when are you going start, though? >> great minds, andrea. >> that was an answer that sounded like donald trump and his taxes. they always want something more. >> actually, donald trump would say i want to release my medical records, i just can't. they're being audited. to stop the joking, this is really an outrage. we need to, particularly an outrage coming from somebody who as you pointed out just had a heart attack, is 78 years old. we need to have a generalized
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standard. we need to figure out a way to have candidates maybe either submit to an examination at walter reed or something else so we have a baseline assurance about people's health. >> that used to be dr. lawrence altman, the medical doctor of "the new york times" and demanded it. i covered ronald reagan who had cancer surgeries. >> we got a lot of stuff. he did share his stuff. >> he put it all out. the standard always was to put it out. >> the scrutiny will intensify. >> he doesn't like the scrutiny. and this shouldn't -- he's going to make this an issue and maybe he doesn't have to. >> i suspect he also recognizes and voters also recognize that president trump has lowered the bar on the issue over transparency. so maybe there is a little more room. >> he has lowered the bar on the issue of transparency. he also showed you can get away with stonewalling. >> i was just going to say, do we really want to follow that example going forward?
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a huge congratulations. we are tickled. we had three nominees from the film festival, but how about that? a big winner for "learning to skateboard." that's all for me. we'll be back live in manchester tomorrow night at 5:00. msnbc special coverage of the new hampshire primary will begin at 6:00. i'll tease you with exit polls at 5:30. you can catch msnbc news now with live coverage of our election coverage. that's on apple tv, roku or msnbc.com. ari melber picks things up right now. >> thank you, chuck. i'm ari melber. welcome to a special edition of "the beat" live from manchester, new hampshire, with plenty of energized voters right here. we're going get into it with everybody. this is, of course, election eve. and tomorrow the voters you see right here in this historically independent state will be casting their votes. tonight we have the late-breaking polls. we have views from the ground and we also have as guest leaders from some of t
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