>> thank you both for being with me. that is all for this evening. i mean, what is the example the rachel mad ddow show starts that's been set for the country right now. by what happened to, for >> much appreciated. thanks to you at home for example, alexander vindman? i mean, colonel vindman joining us this hour as well. just a couple of days after the testifies, dad do not worry, i'll be fine for telling the 2016 u.s. presidential election, truth. he said in his opening statement a journalist, a russian american of his testimony, i recognize that my simple act of appearing journalist published what was here today would not be tolerate basically an alternate instead many plays places around concession speech for hillary the world n russia where his family had emigrated to this clinton. masha gason said on election country from as refugees. night that same week in november in russia my act of expressing concern of the chain of command 2016 when it became clear in the wee hours of the morning on election night that donald trump in an official and private was going to win the presidency, channel would have severe personal and professional repercussio gason argued that clinton repercussions. he said here in america, dad, do instead of giving the speech she not worry. i will be fine for telling the truth. he is not fine. did, she could have -- perhaps he has been fired from the white should have just said this. house. and i will warn you, this is a he has been marched off the grounds, a relative of his, his little dark . it is a little stark, but given brother has also been fired from the white house and marched off that she wrote this basically the white house grounds. hours after election night, it also feels oddly prescient just marie yovanovitch, u.s. a few years down the road now. ambassador who was bizarrely and here's the alternate concession unfairly targeted by the speech for hillary clinton as president's allies, and by the imagined by masha gason.

president himself lost her job as u.s. ambassador because of it starts thank you, thank you my friends, thank you. it. her career is now over too. we have lost. she is now retired and gone from we have lost and this is the last day of my political career. the state department, and it is so i will say what must be said. not hard to see why given what we are standing at the edged of they unleashed on her after her the abyss. testimony. ambassador bill taylor who was our political, our society, our called out of retirement as country itself are in greater basically a favor to fill in for danger than at any time in the her in ukraine, he made the mistake of testifying too. last srcentury and a half. the president elect has made his he's been yanked out of that post as well. intentionings clear and it would even the ones who might have be immoral to pretend oersz. thought they had some trump insurance, ambassador john we must band together right now to defend the laws, the bolton, trump appointee as national security adviser. he decided he wouldn't testify, institutions and the ideals on told house impeachment which our country is based. investigators he wouldn't do it. that's not what hillary clinton said on election night, but the weak of the 2016 election, decided instead he would write it all in a book. for his trouble the white house journalist masha gessen who had is saying they will block the publication of his book and the president is reportedly trying to arrange some convenient spent most of her career writing criminal prosecution of john about the rise of vladimir putin bolton. ambassador gordon sondland, he in russia, she said that that or something like that is what might have thought he had trump hillary clinton should have insurance, bought himself an said. an early morning hours of wednesday that first week of ambassadorship, a complete

november when the election results came in. diplomatic amateur. bought himself an ambassadorship that article by masha gessen by virtue of a million dollars has, i think is still seen as a donation to the trump inaugural. you might think that'd be landmark these three plus years enough. he's yanked. later. that article is remembered less for that alternate proposed he's fired as well. the u.s. attorney in washington concession speech for hillary d.c, a trump appointee, a member clinton, you know, calling on of the trump transition team. the country in that moment to she apparently did not jump high band together to defend our laws enough when the president's demands for his friends mike and institutions. flynn and roger stone came to her door as u.s. attorney in the jurisdiction where they were it's remembered less for that than it is for the set of rules masha gessen went on to lay out being prosecuted. she was unceremoniously removed from her post, promise aed a on how to survive a country that different job and now that job is shedding its democratic offer has been yanked. foundations and is shedding the it took just minutes for the resignation of those four strictures of the rule of law. prosecutors. the prosecutors working on the rule number one on her list of stone case who resigned out of rule, memorable one that still principle over the perversion of that case by the president and wakes me up to this day. attorney general william barr. it took all of minutes for the believe the autocrat. president to start personally attacking them and threatening he means what he says. them as well. whenever you find yourself now that they've come forward, thinking or hear others claiming what do we expect for them and

that he is exaggerating, that's our innate tendency to reach for their families? so what do we do? a rationalization. trump has received the support because seeing the attacks, he needed to win and the seeing the personal threats, adulation he craves. seeing the career destruction, trump rally crowds have chanted the uniform career destruction, lock her up. and in some cases the personal they and he meant every word. destruction of people involved in standing up to this president or being involved in investigating this president in well, fair enough. that is, in fact, the world that any way, i mean, seeing them we have ended up living in over destroyed, it makes us feel bad these past three and a half for them as human beings who years. didn't do anything wrong, who but over the last 48 hours, as were doing their jobs. who were brave and patriot nick the justice department has been thrown into crisis and chaos, some cas in some cases, that they decided to tell the truth about makes us and for the first time we are starting to get resignations on principle from career justice feel bad to see them retaliated department personnel who cannot against, to see them targeted. abide what's being done to the to see them hounded to see their careers ended. justice system by this but beyond us feeling bad about president, over these last 48 that, i mean, we as a country hours, rule number three from masha gessen is sticking with me for the health of our country, as well. rule number three, institutions for the health of our democracy, for our continued existence as a will not save you. rule of law nation, we need there to continue to be those it took putin a year to take over the russian media and four people, those types of people to years to dismantle its electoral stand up, to let us know what's going on, to continue to signal

system. the russian judiciary collapsed that it's all right to stand up unnoticed. the capture of institutions in against it and to stop it. turkey has been carried out even to squawk about what's happening faster by a man once celebrated as the democrat to lead turkey with each additional person who is demonstrating to the country into the european union. that when you come out against poland has in less than a year this president your life is ruined. we are further hurt as a country undone half the accomplishments in terms of our ability to of a quarter century in building resist what this president a constitutional democracy. doing. so it's not about empathy with the united states has much stronger institutions than germany did in the 1930s or those individuals, as important russia does today. the problem, however, is that as that is. many of these u.s. institutions it's not about being nice or decent towards them or even are enshrined in political recognizing their patriotism. culture rather than in law. even if we have none of those and all of them depend on the feelings, to protect ourselves as a nation, the destruction of good faith of all actors to them for coming forward is fulfill their purpose and uphold something that can't stand. the constitution. stau what do we do? institutions will not save you. what can we do to support brave? they depend on the good faith of the actors within them. let me just end with this boy, are we living that. because here's one small way to go about it. that was masha gessen a couple tonight a georgetown university of days after the 2016 election. not long after timothy snider's ambassador marie yovanovitch whose career was destroyed, who

was personally targeted for book on tyranny was published. it followed a similar line of scheme, and then it seemed for logic, looking at lessons from the collapse of various democracies across europe over sport, marie yovanovitch tonight the course of the 20th century at georgetown university was given an award for excellence in to learn lessons for us, to the conduct of diplomacy by the learn lessons for how to protect institute for the study of diplomacy at georgetown our democracy and how to know if we're losing that fight to university. this is tonight. watch what happened in the room protect our democracy and what there tonight when people saw we should do then. ambassador yovanovitch. snydey, quote, the european history of the 20th century shows us that societies can [ applause ] [ cheers and applause ] break democracies can fall, ethics can collapse and ordinary men can find themselves standing over death pits with fwuguns in their hands. we might be tempted to think that our democratic heritage protects us from such threats. this is a misguided reflex. >> thank you, thank you. americans today are no wiser than the europeans who saw thank you. democracy yield to fascism. our one advantage is we might >> it kept going and going and learn from their experience. going. marie yovanovitch honored

now is a good time to do so. tonight at georgetown he published this book right at university. while the president and his the time of the inauguration of supporters remain engaged as ever in efforts to destroy her donald trump. the short book goes on to lay for having had the gal to stand out 20 lessons for americans to up and testify truthfully about consider today. some of these lessons, some of one of the myriad of things that these rules keep me up too. has gone dramatically wrong in for example, rule number one, do this administration. you can't let people who stand not obey in advance. up survive, what kind of example most of the power of would that set. what can we do as a current authoritarianism is freely counter mand that? given. what can we do to support the in times like these individuals think ahead about what a more people who do come out and stand repressive government will want, and then offer themselves up and tell the truth and if without being asked. a citizen who adapts this way is need be resign? because there's no line that teaching power what it can do. i would amend that in our time this president will not cross. tell me if you can imagine one. to say a senator who adapts in tell me the thing that would be bad for america but good for him this way is effectively teaching but he wouldn't do it because it'd be bad for the country. power what it can do. there's also rule number eight, what's beyond the pale for him? which is stand out. quote, someone has to. seriously. there's nothing he might it's easy to follow along. conceive of as being to his it can feel strange to of the s advantage that he would not do to this country to get it. broken, and others will follow. is that true? . right, we get that now.

alarm sounded. here's the one that is sticking we're awake. we're at the point, though, with me right now given what is going on at the justice where just pointing this out isn't enough. department and the sort of c we have to recognize that crisis that we have been thrown pointing out where we're at into in terms of the rule of law doesn't stop our country from in this country over the past 48 hours. sliding further into a non rule it's snyder's rule number two, quote, defend institutions. of law situation, pointing it it is institutions that help us out, sounding the alarm knowing to preserve decency. we're there isn't enough. we're there. they need our help as well. we now have to plan specifically do not speak of our institutions for how to survive it and how to unless you make them yours by acting on their behalf. institutions do not protect fight it. more ahead, stay with us. the worst... themselves. they fall one after another unless each is defended from the ...especially when your easily distracted teenager has the car. beginning. so choose an institution you care about, a court, a newspaper, a law, a labor union, and take its side. at subaru, we're taking on distracted driving [ping] . so that's interesting, right? we get this one prescient with sensors that alert you when your eyes are off the road. warning from the russian american journalist. institutions will not save u the all-new subaru forester. you. they will fail. the safest forester ever. do not count on them to save you. we get another warning from the

historian from 20th search democratic, he says yeah, institutions are important, but institutions do collapse unless each one of us actively defends [wood rolling] and saves them from the kinds of alexios, add toilet paper to the shopping list. pressures they're about to come under. pick one, do something to [chiseling on stone] support it. so in the middle of the new oh, and camel milk. hampshire primary yesterday, right, this very important moment for the democratic party and a chicken. and moisturizer. trying to pick their nominee to run against donald trump, we get this other story, right? alexa: thanks, guys. i'll take it from here. this new mail stoilestone we ha in the trump administration on rule of law issues, and it is a big enough story that it resulted in split front pages all around the country today. this is the front page of the "new york times." on the right-hand there's the politics, sanders is winner in new hampshire. on the left side in all capital letters, justice departments acts to ease sentence for trump ally. four u.s. prosecutors quit stone case after bosses step in to overrule them. across the country, here's the los angeles times and there again is the picture of senator

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so we are here. believe them when they say who they are. right? we are at that moment that this president did in fact, promise during the campaign, right? and everybody said at the time how outrageous it was, how much it crossed a red line for him to say as a candidate when he's president instruct his attorney general to prosecute his opponents. punish his enemies, protect his friends. when he said he would do that as a candidate, the outrage, but did you believe him? here we are and all of the alarms are going off about this. this is a front page thing, and it is as serious as you think it is. here's a former senior justice department official who actually served well into the trump administration, david lofman calling this a break glass in

case of fire moment. here's former attorney general eric holder going right there as well, quote, do not underestimate the danger of this . joining us now is mary situation. the political appointees in the mccord. doj are involving themselves in she served as an assistant u.s. an inappropriate way in cases attorney in the d.c. attorney's involving political allies of office for nearly 20 years. the president. in a statement last night, she was the head of the national attorney general holder saying, quote, actions such as these put security division at doj. she resigned several months into at risk the perceived and real the trump administration. she's now a professor at neutral enforcement of our laws georgetown law. thank you so much for making and ultimately endanger the time to be here tonight. fabric of our democracy. i know you don't do a lot of public speaking. equally stunning is, you know, i really appreciate you being here. >> thank you for having me. >> you gave an interview to the as the attorney general is intervening to take over these cases of interest to the new yorker and "washington post" president, both to help the where you expressed pretty president's friends and to target the president's perceived serious concerns about what's happened, what's merged over the enemies, to target anything that past days about the attorney poses a perceived threat to the president, equally stunning general and political appointees intervening in cases that are important to the president. since the initial reports have alongside what bill barr doing come out about this crisis, have is the fact that the justice department is now starting to you seen anything or any sort of new reporting or otherwise respond. there are now resignations from learned anything that has made the justice department in protest. three line prosecutors working you feel any better about this? on the roger stone case >> no, i haven't. in fact, today, of course we've

withdraw his seen the president, you know, displeasure with the recommended thanking the department of justice for intervening, and sentence that stone had had put we've seen some sort of doubling down by the president to start forth to the court by these line attacking the prosecutors who prosecutors. three of them resigning from the case, a fourth not only withdrew from the case and the one who actually resigned from withdrawing from the case but the department of justice, so resigning from the department altogether. this seems like more of the type former obama white house counsel of retribution that you were bob bower describing that as a just highlighting with respect quote, major event and for bob to state department officials bower, the least hyperbolic man and the other types of on earth, that's like a 10-alarm retribution we've seen, frankly, fire for him to call something a since this presidency started. >> these four prosecutors who resigned, have been directly major event. threatened and personally saying today quote, dramatically attacked by the president since forceful responses to mr. trump's assault on rule of law norms have been all too rare. they submitted their resignations. just for context for those of us a resignation can set off an who haven't had the kind of alarm bell for institutions. career you have, how rare is what appears to be a principled resignation like this let alone it upholds rule of law norms in the very act of signaling that a whole slew of them? they are failing. these three prosecutors withdrawing from the case and one resigning from the they are failing. department altogether? >> so it's quite rare. so like i said, the alarms i haven't seen anything this dramatic ever in my career.

ringing. what do awill rememblarms do? i would note, though, that there has been at least one prosecutor in this office that did leave who had been involved in the they are supposed to wake us up. in this case we are all awake. what do we do now that we're andy mccabe investigation, and awake? there's no hiding the importance of what's going on here. the country is well aware of you may recall this has been a what's going on here. very long-term investigation all the people in position to that has still never reached a know how dangerous and bad this final conclusion. is have struck the alarm bell, there were a lot of rumors last right? and so now what do we do about year that mr. mccabe was going to be indicted, and around that it? same time one of the prosecutors the idea of being a rule of law left and the other withdrew from country is not just about the -- you know, the technocratic that case. and still, we've had no word on prowess of your law enforcement system and your justice system. what's going to happen to mr. mccabe. so that clearly wasn't as i mean, that matters but it is dramatic as this, and i don't bigger than that. it's also bigger than individual know for sure that that politicians or powerful people prosecutor left the department being able to get away with because of what was -- how the stuff unfairly by somehow mccabe case was being handled, working the system. again, that's part of it. but again, this is all during this administration. it's all, i think, related to but it's not all of it. pressure that is being brought the reason that people use rule of law countries as a way to to bear. online prosecutors who are doing define what is not an autocracy, their jobs and prosecuting cases as they see fit in their what is not an authoritarian judgment. >> what's the right way to sheem answer the alarm bells that regime is this bigger sense of what it means to be a rule of

law country. these professionals are sounding those things matter, but the with their actions? worst collapse and the most kons obviously, i think as concerned citizens we want to know what we kwenl collapse of the capital r rule of capital l law is when can do. i think there's a real cost to the law becomes a tool of the seeing these people made political leader. examples of and punished for or the power of the criminal co justice system and the law come out. enforcement apparatus of this i wonder if the courts afford country is em employed for the pleasure and the benefit of a any kind of protections? president who is supposed to how should we be answering these alarms as a country? allow it to operate independently but we have now >> i wish i had a great answer crossed the line on that. for that. he told us he would do it. he has now done it, and all of i was very heartened to see the the alarms have sounded. footage of marie yovanovitch getting a standing ovation. i think it's important for the they are ringing incredibly members of the public to be loudly and we don't know what comes next, but what do we do supporting those who are bringing attention to misuses of power like we've seen from this next? what do we do now that we are awake to what's going on? president. diagnosing the problem exists is but you know, recall, as well that the executive branch is just one branch of the not the same as curing the government, and we are -- you problem. i think when all is reasonably know, we have looked already to well and we're reading dystopian the congress as another branch fiction or smugly reading to do its job, and of course the history about other countries falling on hard times and losing impeachment process, although the recaule of law and losing there was an impeachment in the

freedom and democracy, when we house, of course that failed in the senate, and so normally that imagine these moemts as might be a branch that we could happening to someone else or look to to kind of step in when happening in fiction. when we imagine what would happen in this country when the things are going off the rails things that make us a free as they seem to be. country start to collapse, when it's not clear we can rely on they erode and crumble and fall that during the tenure of this away. i think if we're honest, a sort administration unless perhaps of naive fantasy that most of us things get to a point where even have about moments like this, mitch mcconnell and those on the about what it will be like, is senate side and the republican party feel like it's gone too far. but as you just mentioned, we that, you know, good people doing good things will fix it. also have the court system, and not everything will be able to be brought in court, but you can that's smart people in a position to know being alert to bet that judge amy berman the danger and pointing out that jackson will rule neutrally and this terrible rubicon has been fairly on the sentencing of crossed. that would somehow be enough to roger stone next week when it stop us from going any further in that direction and to bring us back to this safe side of it. comes up. and she, i don't believe, will somehow be enough to call out be kowtowed to the president, won't be intimidated, and i the danger, to get us to think judges we will see that recognize the danger tos, to mas continuing and hopefully that not go there. continues not only at the it turns out it's not enough. district court level and the court of appeals but hopefully it turns out we still go there. our supreme court will also take i think withe imagine when we t ourselves optimistic fables care to protect the rule of law

about these kinds of things in against abuses that we nay see the event something did go coming out of this white house. terribly wrong in america zpt >> mary mccord, veteran justice president's attorney general started personally intervening department official including a in personal cases to help the stint as the chief of the national security division. president's friends and to gin thank you so much for making up investigations into people he time. i know, again, you don't do a wanted targeted for political lot of these and so i really purposes, in the movie version appreciate the trust for being of things going wrong that way here. thank you. in america, one of the ways we >> my pleasure. >> presidential candidate start to pivot towards the senator amy klobuchar is going inevitable happy ending of that to join us live here in just a kind of movie is that we think moment. stay with us. a moment stay with us ♪ principled people in a position to know what's going wrong and ♪ all around the wind blows in a position to alert the country about it, they will ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ resign in protest. sound the alarm that way. ♪ blow a kiss into the sun that will let everybody know what has happened and those ♪ we need someone to lean on resignations will have such a ♪ blow a kiss into the sun dramatic effect they will ♪ all we needed somebody to lean on ♪ catalyze a sort of positive the new xc90 plug-in hybrid electric. contagion. they will set a moral example xc90. recharged. that other people will step up to because other people will snap out of whatever fear they have been in, and they will realize, oh, we don't all have to go along with this. this is something to save our country that must be stopped. it's time to, you know, lay down

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defied the threats, and o'bade the subpoenas and told the truth, what if the example that's being broadcast to the entire country right now and every day since these people started coming forward is that when and if you do what is right, when and if you stand up, when ask if you simply obey the law and don't go along with something illegal the president wants you to do, what if the example being set is that if you do the right thing, if you stand up, if you tell the truth, if you resign crushed. our country cannot take another four years of donald trump. the rule, the rule of law can't withstand another four years of a president who thinks that he is above it. our collective sense of decency can't handle another four years of a president who doesn't care about it. our democracy can't tolerate another four years of a president who wants to bulldoze right through it. >> senator amy klobuchar of

minnesota last night in her speech after the results came. can't call it a victory speech because she didn't win, but you'd never know it by the quality of that speech and the quality of which it was received. senator klobuchar lots to crow about last night, an 11th hour surge, a very strong third place surge. great to see you. >> thank you, rachel, it was a victory in that we defied expectations in a big way. >> did you surprise yourself? >> no, because i always believe we can do it or i wouldn't be on this journey. i always bhooelieve i can win t nomination and lead our ticket to victory. we had done a lot of work to get to that debate. i had the endorsements of every major newspaper in new hampshire in addition to the "new york times," which i shared with elizabeth, and we also had three of four of the state house leaders and a number of other key endorsers in the state, so we'd worked really hard, but i think the debate really helped me because people saw not only my argument that i can win big

and i've won with rural and suburban and independent, moderate republican voters as well as a fired up democratic base, the highest voter turnout in the country when i lead the ticket, but i also got to show my heart and talk about why i was doing this and what i had thought about a lot during that impeachment hearing when i was bolted to my desk. just which is that we need a president that can actually put herself in the shoes of people around the country and this president can't come close to that. he always thinks about himself. that's really what the impeachment hearing was about, him illegally putting his partisan interests, his private interests in front of the country's. that means he's not looking out for the people that can't figure out am i going to fill my refrigerator or fill my prescription or am i going to go pay and pay for my aging parents' long-term care or my own child care. that's what's missing from this guy in a big way, it's empathy. >> i was struck by the fact that

there were, again, today with this huge political newshaened hampshire, again almost every front page in the country is a split screen story of that and this crisis at the justice department with what the president is doing, what you referenced in your speech, senator warren referenced it in her speech as well. i wonder if -- i mean, i know that you're running on a platform about what you want to do that is not about what donald trump has done. you're running on a platform that is about what you think the country can be and why you're the right person to plaed lead it there. i feel like he intrudes on all your messages all the time by taking up the room. >> that's what he does. we know two things, one is you kraent foll can't follow him down every rabbit hole. second, the obstacles are the . there are infeidependents out te including in the state of new hampshire who voted for me who say to themselves, wait a minute, i may not agree with everything that the democrats say on the debate stage.

i don't agree with everything they say on the debate stage, but this is a decency check on this president. this is patriotism check on this president, and they don't want, as i said in my speech last night, four more years of a guy who's going to bulldoze through our democracy. it's really important to remember those people out there that see this as a decency moment for our country. i have been emphasizing that from the very beginning, and i think it's one of the reasons we're gaining speed. >> in terms of speed, i've talked to you at a number of points as you started to get into this, i feel like i've been checking in with you. from the very beginning you have been describing a slow and steady approach to the campaign. >> yes. >> you would not spend beyond your means. you would not try to grow too fast. you'd earn it on your merits, peak when you needed to peak. over the next three weeks, though, it's going to come fast. nevada, south carolina, 14 states on super tuesday. how fast and how much can you scale up to try to stay

competitive? >> we can do this. we are running ads all over the place in nevada, in part because while i didn't have the biggest bank account on that stage and certainly not in this race. i may not be the tallest person, james madison was 5'4", and i may not have the loudest voice, but since that debate we raised $3 million online from regular people, and then yesterday in new hampshire we raised $2.5 million in one day at amy klobuchar.com from regular people, and that's been an issue for me. i know that. i only ran $1.5 million of ads in that new hampshire market, but now i'm going to be in a better place, and then we move to south carolina and beyond, and as you know, super tuesday is just a week from south carolina. so -- and minnesota's one of the states. there's just going to be a lot going on at once. slowly but surely i always believed this that i was not going to have this major viral

moment back in -- except for my announcement with four inches of snow on my head, i was going to build this base slowly but surely. it's a different kind of campaign. you bring people with you instead of shutting them out. >> i have lots more to ask about. can you stay with us? >> i will. >> senator amy klobuchar is our guest. i'll be right back. r guest. i'll be right back liberty mutual customizes your car insuranceberty. li♪ >> man: what's my my truck...is my livelihood. so when my windshield cracked... the experts at safelite autoglass came right to me. >> tech: hi, i'm adrian. >> man: thanks for coming. ...with service i could trust. right, girl? >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪

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really well with african-american votersful i have the endorsements of a number of key leaders, mayors that have been campaigning for me across the country. on and i have a record of focusing on economic opportunity, number one issue in the community and i lead a number of those voting rights bills including everything from getting rid of jergerrymanderino doing something to automatically register kids when they turn 18. and the immigrant side of it when we go to nevada, i was, when i got to the senate, i started working on immigration refo reform. ted kennedy asked me to be on a small group that worked on that bill and i've been working on it ever since. i have a track record of being a strong supporter for immigrant rights. i also lead all the tourism bills. a pretty big deal in vegas and reno in the senate, and i plead caucus. and then nevada, by the way, has a big history of electing women.

two women in the u.s. senate as well as the majority in their state legislature which is a very cool thing. and they got so much done in the last year. >> in terms of women voters, i suppose i shouldn't be shocked. in iowa it was 58-42, female to male electorate. in new hampshire, 57-43. almost exactly the same. a huge gender gap in terms of the democratic turnout. that does not necessarily translate into support for female candidates. among democratic voters who say they worry about the electability of a female candidate, women say that just as much as men do and in some cases, they say it more. do you have different conversations with men voters than women voters? >> not really. everyone wants to win. it is on me to make that case and i've always historically done better with male voters for some reason. not than women but i've done better than a lot of other candidates with male voters in my own state. and i think part of it is i make

the same pitch here and i make the same pitch to men voters. whether it is about gun safety about, wages, whether it is about retirement. it has hit women more. the lack of shared prosperity in this economy. the basic argument is this. we need someone who can win and beat donald trump. i have passed over 100 bills in the u.s. senate. i have the track record to work across, to get things done and work in the red districts. winning in michelle bachman's district every single time. >> did you know that? >> did i know that. >> making this case about electability. >> i think people need to know that about me. a lot of people are talking about that on the debate stage. beautifully talking about how they can lead. i am the only one with receipts. i'm the only one who has done and it brought people with me.

that i think tran scends gender. i think that's about winning and that's the case that i make. >> let me ask you one seemingly technical things but it is starting to loom. every third or fourth day, there is thing that wakes me up. someone is writing now, when you look at the results at last night's results in new hampshire and in iowa, it is looking like no democratic candidate has a majority of delegates before the convention. which makes me cringe because the prospect of covering that is such a nightmare. do you think you and your fellow candidates should support whoever has the most delegates at the end of the race? or do you think a contested convention is fair game? if it has to get fought out at the could not vention, so be it. >> i know i strongly support whoever comes out of convention. that's what we've all agreed to do. >> if it is contested? >> if it is the, i would assume it will be a small number of people. what's conventions are about.

we have to get the best candidate. i'm not certain that will happen. all sing i'm devoted to supporting whoever the candidate is. i think it should be me. and i think this process, and the number of my friends who would be tremendous presidents, have left the race over time. but i think it is getting down to less and less people. so it will give people the ability to understand not just what policy positions do we agree blew can lead this ticket and unify our own party you need someone who can unify our party but also bring people. i don't want to just eke by a victory at 3:00 in the morning. that would be sweet. i want to win big. that's the only way to send mitch mcconnell packing. if we win the senate races in arizona and colorado, if we keep holding on to doug jones' seat in alabama after he took that incredibly brave vote. do you that by having a candidate that is able to bring

people with her and win in those states and bring them with you. otherwise, i don't think we can make the achievements with pharmaceutical prices and criminal justice reform. we need to do this big. >> godspeed. >> okay. we'll be right back. stay with us. k. stay with us there's a company that's talked to even more real people than me: jd power. 448,134 to be exact. they answered 410 questions in 8 categories about vehicle quality. and when they were done, chevy earned more j.d. power quality awards across cars, trucks and suvs than any other brand over the last four years. so on behalf of chevrolet, i want to say "thank you, real people."

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will do it for us tonight. i'll see you tomorrow night. now it's time for lawrence o'donnell. i'm sorry, i'm in your real estate. >> i was very glad to see amy klobuchar in your hour. i want history to record that amy klobuchar was the last

presidential candidate to appear on this program at approximately 10:30 p.m. the night before new hampshire voted. so i think what we saw was the last word bump. what else is that