we have rounded the top of the hour, which means i'm so out of time. over to you my friend david guerra, take it away. >> thanks very much. great to see you on this saturday. i'm david guerra, live at msnbc headquarters in new york. some breaks news this hour, several stories incredibly important to the 2020 campaign. first in nevada, gldemocrats ha their first opportunity to pick candidates as early voting in the state caucus is underway. the candidates are rallying crowds across the state. just a reminder here, this is a process that is brand new that

was just agreed upon last tuesday. second set of stories this afternoon involving michael bloomberg and his campaign for the democratic nomination. a major piece in "the washington post" shedding new light on the workplace culture at his company and allegations that have been made against the former mayor of new york city. we're going to dig into that piece with the reporter behind it and report mike bloomberg is considering none other than secretary of state hillary clinton to be his running mate. joining me is mary gray, she covered mike bloomberg when she was covering city hall. i want to ask you what is new here? you got your hands on this boom given to mike bloomberg at a birthday party. it's posted on "the washington post" site. help us understand how the story advances this afternoon. >> sure, there's several things

that are new. first of all, for a lot of people are probably just learning about michael bloomberg. i think that would be of interest, and here we have a number of new things. there was a booklet given to bloomberg of quotes attributed to them. a lot are considered profane and sexist towards women in particular. while quotes have been out there i haven't seen the full booklet out. we decided to put that entire booklet, wihich i obtained froma source online. one of the key things that bloomberg's been asked about for many years is a lawsuit filed by a former top saleswoman at his company who alleged in the suit when she was pregnant he came to her and said kill it, quote, unquote, which she took it as an instruction to have an abortion according to her lawsuit. that lawsuit was settled with confidential agreement. in this story, i quote on the record an individual who's never spoken before, and we posted the audio from part of an interview

with the story. you can hear the audio online and hear the witness. so he's the first person to come forward and basically say i was there. i heard what was said by bloomberg to this saleswoman. he said he remembered saying are you going to kill it, quote, unquote and he told us he found this to be an outrageous statement and he heard mr. bloomberg make crude comments to women. that's never been reported before even though it's a case that's been around going back to the late 1990s. i also obtained under the freedom of information act depositions that bloomberg gave in a case that alleged there was work place disrim naticriminati.

>> when you bring all of this to light, the decline to do that, but what's the campaign said in response to this reporting and indeed what have they said over these years about the story you cite there involving what they say is michael bloomberg and this saleswoman? >> so regards to the booklet that's called the wit and wisdom of michael bloomberg, that has these sexist comments, over the years bloomberg has said he doesn't recall or he didn't say that and/or there's the jokes. he apologized those who might have been offended by certain things he may have said. when we told him we were putting the entire book online, they came back and said he never said any of the things in the book t booklet. at the same time his spokesperson is quoted on the record saying there are things that bloomberg has said that are wrong and disrespectful. i asked what are those things and they didn't describe any specifics about what was wrong and disrespectful. there are several statements that some people may wonder where does that leave things?

it seems like it's up to mr. bloomberg to explain. did he apologize to the people he said them to, and so on. >> michael, very quickly -- >> just to be clear on the saleswoman, they deny all those allegations. bloomberg has flatly denied allegations in the lawsuit about him saying to the saleswoman to kill it with regards to her unborn child. >> michael kran irk thank you very much. mara gayle, i'll turn to you and go back to something michael said a moment ago. these were things that came up during the course of his may mayorality. >> there's almost nothing that's going to come out about him that hasn't already been out in the public before. you know, the comments that he

made and the way he ran his company was a constant source of discussion every election, each of his three elections and as was stop and frisk. it's just good to remember, this is not a very talented retail politician. this is a 77-year-old billionaire who transformed himself into a politician over time. he's not polished and for some people that might be part of the appeal. there's a sense that he's general you win in a way. maybe he says some things that are crude or inappropriate but i think in the context of having donald trump having broken all of the rules at this point, it's going to really be up to the voters to susz out what's important to them. how do they feel those comments stack up against the hollywood access tape or frankly donald trump's actions. so i think it's in context it's just not going to be as big of a deal as it was maybe in the past. for new yorkers this is really nothing new. >> how about the parallels between how he ran city hall and

has run the company. patty harris who is the chairwoman coming out in the defense of the culture of the company. were there a lot of sl similarities? this is what the west wing would look like. this is what the oval office would look like. there would be desks with no offices. >> bloomberg very famously bolted his company and later at city hall transformed the officers at new york city hall into what they call the bullpen, and so they have open desks and he kind of sat in the middle of it all calling the shots as someone would, you would imagine, on wall street, and he liked being at the center of it all. he liked being able to see all of his employees and have his employees be able to come to him with ideas, let the best ideas rise to the top. that kind of environment and atmosphere. that's what he's talking about doing with the white house. so the people around him as well, the aides have been there with him for over a decade, many of them. there's a lot of loyalty to him,

which it does say something about his management style. he's known to be a tough but fair and good boss. >> very quickly here you said that he's not a natural retail politician. we're looking at the prospect of him being on the debate stage, something he didn't have to do a lot of when he was running for mayor. how easily shaped is he? how easily coached is he as a politician? what do you think that's going to be like? >> oh, he is not easily coached. i think when you are a billionaire and when you're very successful and then later you went on to do something that people told you couldn't be done, which is win the campaign for mayor three times, i think it's very difficult to tell him what to do, but he is -- he really wants this, in my understanding from talking to those close to him, is that he's got an open ear, maybe more open than ever before, and so i think we'll see. but part of the strategy that's genius for them right now is that when he's putting out all these ads, it really limits the amount of tomb that he's -- he

himself is at&ting befostanding voters. he's somebody who when we have parades in new york, it's ceremonial and the mayor will come out and talk to folks. he doesn't really love shaking hands, kissing babies. he's very awkward about it. recently we saw him shake the mouth of a dog. voters should be prepared for that. there's also something some voters find real and endearing. he would say his strength is not that he can give you that 900 watt smile and make you feel good the way other politicians are, joe biden is the best at that, but that he has the best ytds a ideas and that he can't be bought. we know that's the case. >> the "new york times" editorial board, she covered u him when he was the mayor of new york city. the democratic party as nevada kicks off early caucus voting. just a primmer on how all of this is supposed to work. over a four-day period nevada dans hand in their first, second and third choices.

it will be used when the regular caucus takes place next saturday. the stakes are high for the remaining eight candidates in the race. simone boys is live in las vegas. walk us through what's happening at these sites. 80 sites are having these early caucuses. this is different from iowa, certainly what happened in iowa is influencing what's going on in nevada today. >> reporter: that's absolutely right, david. for one, officials here in nevada have decided to scrap the use of that app that was used in iowa altogether. they are going to be using a combination of paper records that are going to be transported away from these early vote locations like the one i'm standing in front of. this is the east lafs vegas lie wr -- library. those will be integrated through a combination of google forms and google sheets. inside the library behind me right now, we saw about 70

people coming in early to cast their votes but a lot of these early vote locations are dispersed throughout clark county and throughout nevada in areas that are poised to bring in a more diverse coalition of voters. and intentionally to bring in a more racially diverse group of voters. we know that here in the state of nevada the population is made up of about 49% white folks, about 29% hispanic people, 10% black folks, and close to 9% asian people. so democrats in this state are really trying to make sure that the caucus results reflect that broad coalition of voters that they have here in the state. earlier today we were at a supermarket just down the road in east las vegas, which is a predominantly hispanic community, and we spoke to some of the voters there about how this process is going to find out whether they find this early vote process more accessible. >> out of the way before the

lines get too long and it gets unimaginable. i recently had back surgery, so i've got to haul this thing around so i don't want those long lines. >> and david, we do know that former senator harry reid is going to be stopping by this polling location later on today, and we know that he has been instrumental in making sure that nevada has a say as one of these early contest states. >> my colleague simone boys there in las vegas. as the democratic caucuses get underway for early voters, those who are democrats declaring themselves as democrats today. senator bernie sanders is heading into nevada with a first place lead in the polls, and his campaign wants to shift focus to a possible general election matchup between the senator and pru president trump. he's talking about defeating the what sanders calls the billionaire class and elite. we take garrett away from capitol hill, he's still following all these senators.

what are we are hearing from the senators who are there today? >> reporter: i got to tell you, david. it's different strategies for the different candidates, if you're amy klobuchar, or elizabeth warren, the next state is the most important state. if you're bernie sanders, sanders campaigned in north carolina, in texas, he's here in nevada today. he's going to colorado, california. he's trying to be everywhere at once, really nationalize the campaign especially heading into super tuesday. look around at this crowd here, this is why bernie sanders is such a force in american politics right now. this is the youngest, most diverse crowd i have seen in any early state contest that i have covered yet so far. and they are fired up. it's 11:00 in the morning here in las vegas, and sanders has these supporters here cheering. when this is over, he's going to march them down the street to an early voting location. early voting starts today. it's a chance to get ahead of what could be a messy caucus process as simone was laying out, and sanders is trying to

bank those votes right now. if he gets half this room down there, that's the kind of start you need in a week-long caucus process. >> garrett quickly, i talked to you calm ouple of days ago, the important of organized labor there. we saw that union not to endorse specific candidate. what's the fallout from that been? how have these candidates reacted? >> look, the decision by the culinary union is probably going to be most painfully felt by joe biden, maybe some of these other moderate candidate who is do not have this organic support in the state. the union has the ability to mobilize their 60,000 members, 90,000 members if they so choose. the fact that the union is sitting this out leaves those candidates trying to build their own organization. joe biden has a fairly significant organization on the ground, if you're pete buttigieg, or amy klobuchar, you're building late and from scratch and you do not have the kind of organic support.

>> my colleague garrett haake in las vegas. we'll check with you throughout the afternoon. stay tuned for more coverage of the 2020 vote. in our next hour, i'm going to be joined live by the senior senator from massachusetts, that's democratic candidate elizabeth warren right here on msnbc. more scrutiny of attorney general will yiam barr for a series of moves he made this week involving president trump's allies and someone he has targeted as well, the former deputy director of the fbi. i'm referring to andrew mccabe. the department of justice will not pursue charges against him nbc news political reporter monica alba joins us now from west palm beach, florida. walk us through what the president's reaction to this has been. we got the reporting on this that there wasn't going to be charges pursued. there was speculation, expectations the president was going to weigh in likely disappointed with that decision. what have we heard from the president and the white house? >> reporter: that's right,

david, and the president taking that rare decision not to engage with reporters yesterday as he came down here to florida, but we are getting his first reactions here this morning. one of his favorite mediums, twitter. i want to read to you a couple of tweets this morning of a quote within a quote. the president citing peter baker of the names who is referencing a wall of walralph waldo emerso saying when you strike at the king, you must kill him. mr. trump's foes struck at him but did not take him down. a triumphant trump emerges from the biggest test of his presidency, emboldened, ready to take exoneration and take his kaz of grievance to the campaign trail. aside from the fact that maybe the wire version, you come at the king you best not miss, may be my preferred one, but this is a president who is emboldened because of how vindicates he

says he feels. while he hasn't weighed in much on the mccabe case apart from quoting a fox news message and tweet earlier today, we might hear from him later on. he's expected to speak at a very high dollar fundraiser. that's behind closed doors. those comments somehow have a way of getting out. i think we'll hear a little bit more from him on that as the weekend continues and as the golf visit continues. >> the president just getting around to reading that piece of peter bake published on the 1st of february. let me ask you about the rest of this weekend. he's going to be headed to daytona beach for the daytona 500. >> he will be the second sitting president to take part in the daytona 500. he's going to be honored as the grand marshal, which means he gets the distinction of telling the drivers to start their engines. he is using it as part of his re-election campaign pitch. they're going to be airing an ad during the fox broadcast. they're going to be flying an aerial banner, and he may even

be participating in a lap on the concrete we're told. so that is a little bit up in the air. he is going to be taking that. this is the just the latest in a string of high profile sporting events he's been a part of. he and the first lady will both be there. >> a man with varied interests. monica alba joins us with that update. the stakes keep getting higher as another important state is getting ready to weigh in on the democratic race. it could be a game changer. the latest standings in south carolina and the major impact it could have on all of the candidates. the house majority whip jim clyburn has represented south carolina for more than 25 years in congress. he's going to join me next.

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as early caucuses continues in nevada, we are also looking ahead to the next contest in south carolina. a new poll by east carolina university shows former vice president joe biden's lead

dropped nine percentage points in south carolina. he still leads all 2020 candidates with 28% support followed by senator bernie sanders at 20%, tom steyer rounds out the top three with 14% while the rest of the candidates finish below double-digits. joining me now is a man whose finger is on the post of south carolina politics, the majority whip, the son of sumter, south carolina, gamecock city. he represents the sixth district which stretches from buford to summerton. he joins me now. thank you very much for being here. let's start with your endorsement. i gather you've made it but you haven't revealed it. what are you waiting for and can you give us any hint of who it might be? >> i've been saying all along i think i know who i'm going to vote for. you know, i'm pretty active in this business, and i've been around it a long time. i know all the candidates, but whether or not i make that public, i'll make that decision sometime next week or the week

following. >> between now and then, you've got a debate in south carolina. how pivotal is that going to be both for you finalizing that decision and for the electorate there in south carolina, do you think? >> well, i think the debate is going to be very, very important. you just mentioned that the race for number one has tightened quite a bit. for a long, long time, joe biden was way out in front of everybody, and now he's not as far out front. so i do believe if the election were held today or tomorrow, he would still finish number one, but the debate will have a big impact on that. of course that's not going to be until the 25th, four days before the primary. >> has joe biden, you mentioned you know all these kacandidates. you've worked with many of them, has he waged the kind of campaign you thought he would? any critique of what he might do differently here in the next couple of weeks? >> well, i think all the candidates have done themselves

proud. i did an event with elizabeth warren at my alma mater, south carolina state. i've done a press conference dealing with community health centers with sanders and i've done stuff with joe biden, and so you have been trying to be helpful to all the candidates. i made it very clear, the democratic national committee that if south carolina were chosen to be one of the early states in the preprimary window, i would not do anything to undercut that primary, and so i'm not going to do it. so i'm trying to help everybody as much as i possibly can. b but i can only vote for one, and i might let that be known very soon. >> i look at that polling from ecu, see how the candidates stack up. is there something we don't get when we look at those data, versus what you see on the

ground? in other words, do the data ring true to what you think this race is going to be like? >> i don't think it rings quite true. simply because south carolinians are very aware of the fact that we got this primary because we are a diverse state. we are very proud of our diversity in the state, ask we have been somewhat annoyed that iowa and new hampshire have been sort of setting the pace, and they do not reflect the demographics of the country. we want ed to be a part of this because we think that our voted electorate in the primary more closely reflect what the democratic vote would be like or what it should be in november. so i think we are going to let our feelings be known in this primary irrespective of what may

have happened in iowa or new hampshire. >> i imagine from where you're sitting as you look at what happened in iowa as you watch these caucuses unfolding at least in early stage of nevada, you must be thinking of the odds of that changing come 2024 are different. are you optimistic that's going to change next time around? >> yes, i am. i think now people are seeing why a lot of us have been warning them about. in fact, south carolina used to be a caucus state. i have been a victim of that caucus. i learned that caucus system, and i have been a victor of that caucus. so i know how caucuses can be manipulated, and so i think having an open primary so that independents can vote in that primary gives a better feel for how your candidate will fair

come november. >> mike bloomberg has been spending an awful lot of money in all corners of this country, and i know that tom steyer another man endowed with a lot of resources and end anding spending a lot of money there in south carolina. talk about that stlerategy. if you've got a guy spending 15, $16 million in advertising, his get out the vote effort, how is the south carolina electorate going to respond to that? how have they responded to that? >> well, i'm not insulted by that. the fact of the matter is we know that four years ago or three years ago we had a candidate on the other side who spent a lot of money, much more money than he ever admitted to, and we know that if we are going to survive in november, we're going to have to go up against a lot of money. so candidates now need to get in

tune to their track. i would say to elizabeth warren, to joe biden, to pete buttigieg, to see what it's like running it against the money of steyer and bloomberg because that's what you're going to have to face come november. so don't get upset about it in the primary. just learn how to deal with it, and if you can survive it in the primary, chances are you'll survive it in the general election as well. >> quickly here, let me just test your political open mindedness. i saw a report today that michael bloomberg is considering having hillary clinton as his running mate. is that a ticket you would be optimistic about? is that a ticket you would like to see? >> well, i know a little bit about political process. now, i know that ms. clinton was born in illinois, was a resident of arkansas, but she's represented new york in the senate. now, where is her residence?

i know that under our system the president and the vice president, the nominee cannot come from the same state. so i don't know what that's all about. i think that's just something for us to talk about because unless i am proven wrong and i don't think i will be, if she is a resident of new york i know bloomberg is a resident of new york, they cannot be on the same ticket. >> cold water there from the gentleman from the sixth district. thank you very much. the house majority whip jim clyburn joining me from south carolina this afternoon. i appreciate it always. >> thank you very much for having me. speaking of michael bloomberg, he's in the spotlight, those big breaking stories on allegations of discrimination, what it all could mean for his campaign. that's coming up.

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welcome back. nevadans making their way to some 80 caucus sites across the

state today to caucus early if they have to, if they're so inclin inclined. this is happening one week before the official caucus day making history. it is the first time democrats in nevada have been able to participate early in the state's presidential caucus the candidates are stumping for support trying to get nevadans to back them in a state demographically different than iowa and new hampshire. covering amy klobuchar's and joe bid biden's campaign. what's what's the message she's sending? how is she trying to capture the klomentum? >> yeah, david, she's trying to keep that momentum alive as she takes the stage behind me here. we are a long distance between the las vegas and the midwest and even farther distance from here to new hampshire where she

got that momentum she's trying to keep alive, and it's a different electorate here as you pointed out than the ones in the contests she's competed in so far. one in five eligible voters here in nevada are hispanic. she's got about 500 people or so here in summer lynn. we see a lot of white faces, that emphasizes the challenge that she has. take a listen at what she had to say at her last rally about an hour ago. >> we did more than exceeded expectations in the state of new hampshire, so we thought we would bring this show on the road, and what happens, i wake up yesterday morning and there is a public poll with the las vegas newspaper, and what does it say? that we are in double-digits already. >> reporter: and now that she has a little bit more campaign

cash coming out of new hampshire, where she raised some more dollars off of her success there, she is spending upwards of a million dollars on her first television ad that will air here in nevada ahead of those caucuses. >> josh, thank you very much for the reporting. i appreciate it. what happened in iowa is among many things a cautionary tale after delays and data issues, nevada made some big changes to its caucus process. the technology has not been taken out of the equation entirely. the nevada democratic party said volunteers will use ipads to check in early voters. each will enter his registration number and pin into a google form before filling out scannable paper ballots. joining me is editor of the nevada independent. talk about how this came together. ikz things like an ipad and google forms. for those who are worried about what happened in iowa, there's probably still a good amount of

deal of concern about what's going to happen next? >> yeah, i think there's a lot of finger crossing going on here, david. i have about ten reporters in the field going to various sites around the state, and so far it seems to be going relatively smoothly. but it's a caucus, right? it's run by volunteers. things are going to go wrong. the only question is how big the problems will be. they haven't had problems in the past. the state party here is as good as any will find. you mentioned iowa. there is an iowa effect, which is why i think the early voting turnout today they've never done that before. it's more like a primary. you go in and fill out a ballot. that's why turnout seems so high today. there's a lot of people who don't want a debacle here like they did in iowa. the state party has tried to reduce the danger of luddites being involved, but they're getting as close as they can

with paper ballots that they're scanning in and ipads to check people in. as i said, there's a lot of finger crossing going on and they're hoping to get over the iowa low bar. >> john, with iowa, i think there's an existential debate hang, at least when it comes to the a caucuses there. are they going to continue in light of what happened. i look at what happened in nevada, the system that's been put in place, trying to modernize that, trying to make it something for those who can't be there on caucus so they can participate in. is there unanimity that a caucus is a good thing for the state. >> do you know the democratics? there's no such thing as unanimity, i guess what i would say about that i think the iowa caucus is dead. there are only a handful of caucuses left. i think most knowledgeable people here in nevada think this will be the last caucus. there are just too many problems. for everyone to understand, the reason this was started in the first place is that democrats

saw it as an organizing exercise as well. i think that the days are num r number numbered, and i think february 22nd, 2020, is probably the last time we'll see a caucus in nevada. >> you've got two variables here, momentum coming from iowa and the demographics of nevada as well. to your eyes, what's more important here as we approach the caucus in nevada? what's going to be more important for these candidates? >> it's a great question, david, and as you know and alluded to, iowa and new hampshire are 90% white. nevada's only about 50% white, so there's been a lot of appeals to the latino vote here. joe biden who is kind of making his last stand here, he just talked to jim clyburn from south carolina. he's losing momentum there too. if he loses nevada badly, that's going to be a problem for him. the african-american vote is very important to joe biden in south carolina.

it is no coincidence that two prominent african-american elected officials endorsed joe biden just as early voting has started here. this is joe biden's last stand. he was ahead in the polls. he's dropping now, and so -- and there's also the latino vote, of course, which people talk more about with nevada. that's the culinary union, primarily they have decided not to endorse, to essentially unendorse bernie sanders who i believe has the best organization and probably has the lead here. so i do think the momentum sanders had coming out of iowa and new hampshire essentially is going to trump everything because he has such a good organization here. remember, he almost won nevada in 2016. >> john ralston of the nevada independent. john's going to be moderating next week's democratic debate in los angeles. that debate's going to take place next wednesday night 9:00 p.m. eastern time.

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go where love takes you. welcome back, i'm david guerra. as we mentioned at the top of the show, it's been a week of unprecedented mooufgves between president of the united states and the department of justice. they dropped the investigation against andrew mccabe who was accused of lying to investigators about a leak to the media. president trump once again criticized the doj on twitter.

four career prosecutors quite the case, one even quit his job after revising the sentencing recommendations of roger stone. new fears that there's another pressure campaign. that's something charlie savage has been reporting on for the "new york times," he's also a msnbc contributor, and barbara quaid, former u.s. attorney, professor at the university of michigan and an msnbc contributor. charlie, i'll read a little from your piece. prosecutors across the united states said this week they'd already been wary of working on any case that might catch mr. trump's attention. the stone episode only deepened their concern. they also said they were worried that mr. barr might not support them in politically charged cases. we talk about a chilling effect here. help us understand how real it is. >> it is certainly real in a particular u.s. attorney's office, the one here in washington, d.c., and that's particularly important because this is the office that has jurisdiction over the seat of the federal government and therefore, the most politically charged cases u usually are brought here. those would be cases that could

include both mr. trump's friends like michael flynn and roger stone and potentially his critics or his adversaries including that open case where they have been dangling the possibility of trying to charge jim comey, the former fbi director with leaking. and we know that as part of the takeover of had that office that happened in the last month in which the senate confirmed u.s. attorney was maneuvered out early and then bill barr put in a loyalist aide as an interim u.s. attorney without going through senate confirmation. we further now it led to that meltdown where the four line prosecutors quit the stone case after the intervention on the sentencing. the further information that came to laight yesterday was tht at the same time bill barr sent in a failings of other lawyers, and a number of prosecutors from the deputy attorney general's office to come in and take over as sort of a new layer of

supervision, a number of plultly charged cases. some of which the public knows about and some of which they don't including the michael flynn case. a layer of extra supervisory review putting them in a position to second guess career prosecutors and micromanage or overrule them if that is seen as necessary. >> barbara mcquade, charlie talking about timothy -- i want to ask you what charlie was talking about there, management consultants being brought in. here you have a department within a department doing its job ask other prosecutors are being brought in to look for efficiencies, seeing what's being done wrong. that's a charitable estimation of what might be going on here. how ouft of the norm is that? how worried does it make you that you have outside attorneys being brought in in this way? >> it's highly unusual. i think one of the things that ma makes it so troubling is it doesn't seem like they're being brought in because of interest of doing justice, it seems like

they're being brought in to do president trump's bidding. i don't have a problem with william barr looking and deciding what the recommendation ought to be in the roger stone, it's the appearance that it's president trump hills who's calling t -- himself who's calling the shots. that these decisions are being based on political reasons and not the fact and the law. those are the things that are causing all these alarm bells. there's guidance in the department of justice. there are a number of factors that should be considered when making decisions about the facts and the law and a person's criminal history, the deterrent effect and other things, but you are never to consider personal favoritism or politics in making those decisions. >> put up this tweet if we can from the president on the heels of that interview that bill barr did with abc news indicating as he puts it that he hasn't applied any pressure here on the attorney general, but he continues as president he has the legal right to do so but has

so far chosen not to do so. your reaction to that? i think a big question i have and i imagine a lot of people have going forward is what recourse congress has in light of when a we've seen here. there have been calls on him to be reprimanded or step down or to be impeached even. what could happen? >> the so the president under article ii probably does have the power to decide who gets prosecuted and who doesn't. ever since watergate there has been a very strict separation between the white house and the department of justice and that's because we want to make sure that the public understands that politics has no part to play in deciding whether to prosecute someone. there are limitations on communicating between prosecutors and the white house. all of those things are a matter of policy and norms, and if the president wants to do these things, he can. just because someone can use power in a certain way, doesn't mean he should use power in a certain way. i think president trump is undermining these institutions and certainly public trust in

these institutions. in terms of recourse, the only recourse they have is to choose a different president. >> very quickly here, you have a president here operating with seeming impunity after that impeachment trial. what's your sense of what's happening on capitol hill as a result? >> i don't think they know what to do. it's clear the republicans are not going to remove him from office. the house could impeach him again to no particular purpose, but i agree with barbara. if people are happy with what's happening, they'll elect him again in november, and if they're not they'll oust him. it doesn't seem like there's any other mechanism at this point that's realistic. >> charlie savage whose by line has been on some major pieces. thank you very much for the time. my thanks to barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney as well. all of this fallout from the department of justice getting some attention on the campaign trail. i'm going to ask senator elizabeth warren about her response to it all. in the next hour she's going to join me live. nevada a crucial state to her campaign.

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welcome back on this because busy saturday i'm david guerra at msnbc headquarters in new york as we follow two big stories unfolding today, this could have a direct impact on the race for president. in the state of nevada, democrats have started to pick their choice for the party's nominee. early voting in that state's caucus is underway. this is the first time the state has tried early voting in a caucus. that is the process that was just agreed upon on tuesday of this week. . also watching a couple of stories impacts michael

bloomberg and his campaign for the democratic nomination. a major piece in "the washington post," allegations he has denied in sworn testimony before. there's also reports bloomberg is considering a familiar face to be his running mate should he be the nominee, none other than the former secretary of state hillary clinton. let's dig into these stories with mara gay, she was a reporter covering city hall for the wall street journal. i'm holding here the portable bloomberg, the wit and wisdom of michael bloomberg. this is a controversial document, a collection of purported quotes that was given to him on a birthday long ago, i should say his much more recent birthday was yesterday. how big of a deal is it that this is public, comments he has allegedly made. this has been something that dogd him for a long time. >> probably not that big of a deal, if you think about how many americans red the mueller report, that's probably what we're talking about here. the bigger issue for him is what he's said publicly that's in the

tabloid record, in the record of all the metro new york papers and national lens. he's an older man who came up at a time on wall street where, you know, political correctness really was unheard of at the time. he said a lot of things that are offensive or were offensive, but that doesn't mean that he's known for being a sexist or a racist person at city hall. that was really not really an issue that he dealt with day-to-day. i do think that the stop and frisk record, his actual policies is something that's far more worth looking at, especially in the context of donald trump. >> take us back not so many years ago. you're at city hall with maggie haberman, the whole crew they're covering city hall, how would he respond to stories like this? if you look at what the campaign is doing when stop and frisk has resurfaced, this has now

resurfaced. how much can we learn about wait he and his political apparatus worked years ago. >> one of my favorite pres conferences before he left office, several southern states enacted laws that were banning localities so local governments from limiting the size of sugary beverages, which was kind of essentially an antibloomberg law. so i asked him about this at a press conference, and i'll never forget he said -- it was a mississippi law, and he just kind of grew apg ngrier directi it towards me but really was about mississippi, and at the end he said, you know, look at their -- the life expectancy, look at their educational outcomes. where would you rather live, mara, here or there? and i think he tends to be very unrepenitent for better or worse. he's somebody who really does say what he believes, and i think there's a lot of appeal to that. i still get in cabs where people

will say i actually really couldn't stand bloomberg, and i didn't vote for him but i respect him because i know that when he says something, he says it because he believes it and he thinks it's the right thing, not because a lobbyist is telling him to do something. >> you wrote in a piece about a month ago, that is people who have problems with him, didn't like aspects of him, didn't like the fact that he sought and got this third term as mayor but appreciated what he did as mayor, and as i see it perhaps as you do as well, that's something that he's banking on here? >> i think that's right. i think new yorkers really think about bloomberg as high highs and low lows. he did a lot of things expanding the city's park system, for example. banning smoking in restaurants and public -- not public spaces but public parks and beaches, but has really transformed the city for the better, and at the same time low lows, his record especially on stop and frisk but also frankly on development and gentrification really did help

fuel the homelessness crisis, so it really is a mixed bag, but when you're in an office for 12 years, that's what you get. he has a real record of accomplishments and some mistakes were made, some great mistakes were made. >> mara, great to see you, kord michael bloomberg when he was mayor of new york city. nevada has started its new process of early voting in a caucus form. the memories of the problems swirling around the iowa caucuses still fresh in the minds of the democratic party in las vegas and nevada. my colleague simone boyce is on the ground in las vegas with more. what's been happening today? this is a new thing, a novel thing, john ralston the last hour walking us through how this process is supposed to work. what's being done electronically, what's being done on paper to preserve the integrity of this caucus system, have you heard from those making their way to vote today? >> reporter: that's right. this is historic. this is the first time that the nevada democrats are trying out this process of early voting, and when you participate at an

early voting location like the east las vegas library that we're outside of right now, your vote should count as if you attended and participated in the caucus that is coming up this saturday, and the way that it's going to work, people who are coming to a location like this one, they fill out a preference card. you can list anywhere from three to five presidential candidate preferences. that data will then be integrated on caucus day with the data that is gathered in the room as people are -- as we're trying to figure out which candidates are viable at those caucuses, and so the officials will be using a bit of technology here that's powered by google. it's a custom caucus calculator that will take place inside o'of goog google form, and a google sheet. only a select number of volunteers and officials will have access to that. they will have limited access to the data on the page so that they can only manipulate certain fields on the page to try and

minimize risk. but of course, david, we know when you're trying something new for the first time that still makes a lot of people nervous. on the positive side of things from the voters that we've been speaking to, they all have told us that so far this has been much easier and much less time consuming than the process of actually going to the caucus. that this early vote process that is happening right now, it's much more accessible for a lot of people. i don't know if we have any sound available. we have spoken to a couple of voters that we might be able to play for you right now, let's take a listen. >> nevada has made it so efficient and easy by having it in a grocery store. i always believe in the political process, and even when it was difficult living in other states, i always made the effort, but when it's provided to you in such an efficient place, i couldn't deny it. >> reporter: so you just heard from a woman that i spoke to earlier today at a supermarket just down the street, and that

is strategic. the nevada democrats are trying to incorporate a broad and diverse coalition of voters in this state and get them involved in the process of selecting who the did democratic nominee will be. >> simone boyce there in east las vegas. thank you very much. it appreciate the reporting. senator bernie sanders is heading into nevada with a first place lead in the polls. the senator drawing big crowds at his rallies getting some big cheers as well with his message about what he calls the corporate elite. >> democracy is not candidates going to the homes of billionaires raising money. democracy is not billionaires spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get elected. democracy is when working people stand up, fight for justice. >> garrett haake joins me now. he's following bernie sanders as he makes his way across las

vegas. i know you said at that last -- after that last rally, the senator was going to walk with those who were gathered there to an early caucus site. help us understand how democrats who were there campaigning are taking advantage or working with this new system of early voting in nevada. >> reporter: hey, david, wherever it shows up early voting becomes a huge part of campaign strategy, nowhere more so than here in nevada where the caucus process next saturday is a bit of an open question as to how successfully that will go. the ere wilarly voting is more straightforward. you go in, mark your prenferencs for a couple of candidates and you're done. those votes get counted in with the process here. we just finished a 3/4 of a mile walk with a spry bernie sanders who led a couple hundred supporters from the site of that rally to this union hall behind me. you can see the folks lined up behind me to cast their ballots early. sanders was in peak sanders form. i had a chance to ask him how he was feeling about nevada. he gestured to the hundreds of people walking with him and said

you tell me how this looks. a lot of energy among supporters. at that rally and on this walk, a young, diverse coalition of people. that's been the argument sanders has made for a long time now that he can bring out voters that the other kacandidates ca t cannot. we saw an example of that here on this march. there will be an open question as to what percentage of the vote, how many folks turn out early. with a couple of days, it's absolutely a big part of the strategy. i don't know whether we will see other candidates pick such a direct hands on approach of literally delivering their supporters to an early voting location, but every vote you bank today is one you don't have to worry about later in the week. you see that reflected a little bit in bernie sanders strategy. he's leaving nevada to go campaign in some of these other super tuesday states over the next couple of days, a big part of his strategy to nationalize this race as quickly as he can, david. >> senator sanders getting his steps in. garrett haake getting his in as

well. i preert i i appreciate it. i'm going to be joined live by the senior senator from massachusetts, democratic senator elizabeth warren is going to sit down with me around 3:30 eastern time. president trump continuing to target so-called sanctuary cities across the united states. big breaking story from the "new york times" today, border patrol is going to use tactical agents to crack down on immigrant communities. this is according to two officials who are familiar with the secret operation. "the times" reports specially trained tactical units are going to be used to beef up the enforcement power of local immigration and customs enforcement agents. joining me is one of the reporters who broke this piece, he broke it with caitlin dickerson. he covers homeland security for the "new york times." we read a memo describing what's going to happen. walk us through that. what's going to happen over these next few months? >> so cbd, customs and board

protection approved a request from the leadership out of i.c.e. to send over about 100 different agents, including the tactical agents that you just referenced. those agents will be going to cities, most of them sanctuary cities throughout the united states. some of those cities include new york and chicago. the tactical agents that we're referencing are from a unit known add bo are, tak. they're known for conducting high intensity investigations. cracking down on stash houses, going -- tracking drug smugglers, even going abroad to maybe train other law enforcement officials. they're the border patrol s.w.a.t. team, and i.c.e. feels that they are behind right now in terms of arresting, conducting administrative arrests on the number of undocumented immigrants in these sanctuary cities, so they've requested backup, and that backup is coming in the form of

boarder border property s.w.a.t. team. >> i want to get what you just mentioned, the purported need for this to happen. in the piece that you and caitlin report, there's the effects this is going to have on these immigrant communities and as you report this out, as you look at this, how much of this centers on that? creating that, creating instability in these communities that have these sanctuary policies in place versus the need, the border patrol's need to have this kind of reinforcement. >> when you look at administrative arrests already, i mean, this goes back to the i.c.e. raids from last year that were going after a certain amount of families who had crossed the border. i.c.e. struggled to get the arrests that they wanted out of that because awareness was raised. people don't have to open their doors when an i.c.e. agent goes to their house. so the idea that you would have these tactical agents with all this equipment. we have talked to people who do question the need for those agents with all of that

technical equipment, so then you go to, well, then why would they be present there? why those agents? and many people that we've talked to have brought up the idea of the appearance. you know, wie look at what has happened in the past couple of weeks in terms of the messaging, as well as the concrete steps that the administration has taken to -- against certain sanctuary cities. mainly new york. you could go black to global entry, the department of homeland security banned enrollment and reenrollment for new yorkers to apply for global entry fighting a state law, the green light law, which gives driver's licenses to undocumented immigrants and bans access, dhs access to their driver's license database. the department of justice has also filed lawsuits against sanctuary cities regarding their policies as well. so some do see this as a part of that pattern in terms of trump's

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welcome back, i'm david guerra. the dangerous and deadly coronavirus has claimed another life. this time in the country of france. meanwhile, another u.s. citizen has tested positive for the virus while traveling abroad. about 380 americans who were on board the quarantined diamond princess cruise ship in owe ka ha ma japan have been released to board a plane back to the united states where they will be quarantined. more people on board the ship tested positive for the virus. that brings the total to 285 on that ship alone. there are more than 67,000 confirmed cases across the world. the global death toll stands at more than 1,500. my next guest was quarantined in china and is now in the middle of a 14-day quarantine in california. she tweets life in u.s. quarantine is like summer camp run by the cdc. she joins me from inside the

mandated quarantine from travis air force base in fairfield, california. you say it's like summer camp. walk us through the day-to-day. you're able to leave your room. you're able to walk around. you're able to go outside. >> yes, hi, yes. so basically it's kind of -- it is kind of like summer camp. we do get temperature tested twice a day, once in the morning and once in the evening, but otherwise we're free to leave our rooms and go outside. you know, it's northern california, so it's nice and sunny. however, they put up around the hotel on the air force base a temporary metal gate so we can't leave the perimeter, leave the hotel grounds and they have u.s. marshals outside patrolling the perimeter to make sure no one leaves. >> help us understand the feel of the place, what you've been talking about, what people are saying. as i mentioned you and your colleague were under quarantine in china hubei province. you two described a sense of panic or worry because of what was happening. how much of that pervades where

you are now? >> i think there's an underlying sense of anxiety here because there has been a few people who have been tested positive for the coronavirus, not here in my location in traveis but in san diego and also in san antonio at the lockland facility. so people are nervous. quite a few people are keeping to their rooms, i believe, but you know, you do see a lot of people out and about going for jogs or playing with their kids outside. that was definitely different from in china when we were under quarantine in hubei province where people were very, very nervous, and after a few days in the hotel where we were under quarantine, they thought we were actually infected because our temperatures were registering normal by on the high end of normal. that's when they told us we couldn't leave our rooms. there was just a lot of fear. >> take us inside your mind if you would, you were reporting

doggedly in china, and now you find yourself with these 14 days of idle time. what has that been like for you personally being in this circumstance having to process all of this. >> i've actually been working a lot inside the hotel room. it's actually been in contrast to china, it felt like basically freedom. you know, we can't obviously leave the hotel grounds, but we can walk around and that's been really nice, and actually, i found out recently that beijing has tightened their quarantine requirements so when i return to beijing where i'm normally based, i'll be undergoing another 14 days of quarantine there. that's something to wrap my mindarouminy mind around. >> thank you very much for your time and for the reporting. as well. sean lee under quarantine, my next guest is in self-quarantine, he's a world renowned epidemiologist known as

a virus hunter. he just got back from china as where he studied the coronavirus. are you doing this of your own volition, perhaps at the behest of your university as well. what have you been thinking about while you've been under quarantine? you were in china watching this virus spread. help us get your per spect i have -- perspective. >> i wouldn't say i'm here of my own volition. i don't have a lot of choice. it is self-isolation, so in some ways it's more flexible. but it's inconvenient. i wouldn't describe it as summer camp. in any event, the virus has continued to spread, and obviously we have more fatalities, but i always ask people to bear in mind is when you compare this with seasonal flu where we lose 400, 600,000 people a year, at present we're at 1,500, so it's a terrible loss of life, yes, but it's not as -- it's not as risky, i don't

think, as some of the other infectious agents we've faced. the real task here is to find ways to recognize it, diagnose it rapidly. >> let me ask you, you're in your apartment, and i imagine you have an acute interest in what's going on in the lip kin laboratory, and take us in there if you could, so much as you know what's going on there. what are your students and colleagues doing at this point to analyze this virus and develop the kind of diagnostics that you're talking about? >> we're trying to find ways to develop tests that can be used more rapidly, that are more sensitive. the ones that are currently being used, as you'll know from recent reports, many individuals who were thought to have this infection tested negative with the existing tests. they're known as a pcr test, and so we shifted to using radiological tests, which are not good for detecting virus in the environment, and there should be a possibility of getting a more sensitive test.

we've built one such test. i tested myself four times thus far. and i've been negative, which gives me some relief. i would love very much to go mainstream, and i hope to do that on tuesday. >> there you go, just a couple of days away. you're people who have gone towards something a lot of people have fled. she trying to make her way to wuhan, she was in hubei province. you didn't go to that province, but you were in provinces around there trying to figure out what was making this virus tick, what was making it spread. help us explain that. what were you able to ascertain? what could you learn by being on the ground in china that you couldn't from far from studying the genomes from this virus? >> you get information from people, which allows you to figure out how transmissable it is, where they think their needs lie. one of the most critical things

is personal protective equipment, which is in short supply, and you begin to outline research programs and make connections between chinese scientists and scientists in the rest of the world, particularly in the united states who have complementary interests and expertise so we can get to the bottom of it, figure out where it came from, what we can do about it, and have it prevented from ever happening again. this is what we do in public health, so we have to run toward it just like journalists. >> thank you very much, ian lipkin from columbia university. senator elizabeth warren is busy on the campaign trail today in nevada. she's going to take a few minutes to join me live. we'll talk to her about this make or break moment in her campaign, and tomorrow i'll urge you to watch msnbc's new original series "what's eating america" with chef andrew zimmern. that begins at 9 eastern time right here on msnbc. [♪]

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welcome back, i'm david guerra. it is early voting day in nevada, and senator elizabeth warren is standing by. she's on the campaign trail in las vegas. senator, thank you very much for taking the time out of a busy day to talk with me and let me ask you, first of all, i was reading the fund-raising email you sent out on wednesday after the primary in new hampshire, and you said last night didn't go the way we wanted it to go. looking ahead here to nevada, how do you make nevada go the way you want it to go? >> well, i take this on myself. my job is to get out there and make clear who i am fighting for and how hard i am fighting. look, for me, this is not a bunch of consultants who told me what to do. this has been my entire life's work is to fight for hardworking families who have been getting the short end of the stick for decades now. 2020 is our chance to turn that around, but it's going to take a real fight to do it, and i'm a fighter. that's how i got here. i just need to be strong on that. and you know, it was a fund-raising email just like you said because here's the deal,

we're up against billionaires and people who suck up to billionaires. i decided i was going to run a grass roots campaign from the beginning with grass roots donations, and this is really about how our democracy works. so anybody who believes it's the right way to run a campaign, i hope they go to elizabethwarren.com and pitch in five bucks because it truly is our democracy that hangs in the balance here. billionaires or democracy for everybody. >> there was talk after new hampshire, talk after iowa as well as the need for your campaign to do a reboot or a reset. from what you've just said it sounds like practically speaking strategy wise you haven't changed much in terms of how you're approaching this race. >> you know, as i said, this has been my life wees wo's work. i started back as a teacher. i didn't spend most of my time in politics. i think of all the people who are in this race right now who have ever run for office. i've been in office or ran for office the shortest period of

time. i spent my life as a teacher. i spent my life basically examining why families go broke, why is it that people who work every bit as hard as my mom and dad worked two generations ago find the path today, so much rockier and so much steeper, and for people of color, even rockier and even steeper. and what i see in that is we have a government that's working great for those at the top. it's just not working for much of anyone else, and that's why i'm in this fight. our middle class has been hollowed out. our working families have been crushed and the poor have just had dirt kicked on them. this is our chance, 2020 to turn that around, but it's going to take all of us in this fight. >> i want to ask about somebody you alluded to, you didn't mention by name a moment ago. that's michael bloomberg, and i look at the "washington post" out with a big investigative piece about allegations made

against him when he was running his company. new details therein, a copy of a book that was controversial and widely quoted from is now available as a pdf revealing jokes around his birthday from well over a decade ago. you in the past during this campaign have called for the mayor to release those with whom he settled for nondisclosure agreements, and i wonder if today's release, this piece has changed that. if you would add more fulsomely about what you said before about how he needs to respond to these allegations. >> i haven't seen the particular piece you're referring to. i've been doing other things here in nevada. no, i don't think the democratic nominee ought to be someone who's got a bunch of nondisclosure agreements for having harassed women. that's not who we should be trying to get behind. our records are important, and everybody gets to look at them. this idea that he's going to get to hide all that and cover that up, that's just not going to work.

it's not going to work for him, and it's not going to work for our party, and it's sure not going to work for the american people. >> let me ask you this more specifically. is there room in the democratic party, the democratic primary for michael bloomberg? is there room for a candidate like him who is worth what he's worth and financing what he's financing to compete for this, the nomination to run as a democrat for president of the united states? >> look, my view is anybody should be able to run who's a democrat and put their ideas out there. whether they're rich or poor or someplace in between. the part i object to is the billionaire being able to reach in his own pocket and throw down, you know, a couple hundred million dollars in order to finance their campaign because what that does is that just short circuits all of democracy. it means that his voice is enormously loud, but the voice of all the people who pitch in

$5 or $25, much less. that's the fundamental issue here. billionaire wants to run for president on the democratic ticket, that's fine. just don't use your own money to do it. you go out and raise grass roots donations. get the support of the people, and by the way, you don't get to skip the democracy part of this either. go out and shake hands with people. go out and listen to their questions. go out and let them tell you about what's happening in their lives. that's how this democratic process should work because it's not just about the individual candidate. it's about how as a party we really get ourselves back to our core values. we are the party of working people, and we need to remember that. we need to water those roots and make them grow because we have this chance in 2020 to really have a strong party, to have a party that's out there in the

fight all the way against donald trump, and that not only means we get to beat donald trump, it means we get to make real change in this country, make this country work. it's not just for those at the top. make it work for everybody. >> last question to you, i was listening to candidate elizabeth warren on the anytime of the new hampshire primary, and i heard senator elizabeth warren and professor amer ta elizabeth warren as well as you talked about roger stone and what we knew at the time about the department of justice. this is a story that has evolved much more since. i noted when that happened you were the only candidate to talk directly about what happened here with the sentencing recommendations for roger stone. in light of what we know now, in light of what bill barr has sent to abc news, are you now calling for him to step down? can he still serve in that position in the justice department? >> no. bill barr should resign. he should leave, and he should leave right now, and congress should use every tool we have. we don't have many, but let's use what we've got to try to get him out of there. we ought to be using our funding

tools right now to say that bill barr cannot have resources to intervene on behalf of donald trump, the trump family, investigations into the trump campaign. look, this is about fundamental rule of law. whether you're democrat or a republican, we cannot have a government where the president gets his attorney general to say, whoa, that they're going to modify a sentence or change an investigation in order to help the president personally. we have to have a justice department that is about justice, and everything that bill barr is about right now is just about loyalty to donald trump, and we just can't have that. he should not be the attorney general. >> the candidate, thank you very much for your time there on the campaign trail in nevada.

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my job is to get out there and make clear who i am fighting for and how hard i am fighting. look, for me this is not about consultants who told me what to do. this has been my entire life's work is to fight for hardworking families who have been getting the short end of the stick for decades. >> senator elizabeth warren just moments ago speaking about her campaign from nevada. joining me now is a former

senior adviser to the hillary clinton campaign, and a columnist for aussie media and an msnbc political analyst. adrian, let me start with you, get your reaction to when you heard in that clip. i asked her if the campaign had pursued a reboot. how much does her campaign need one as she looks ahead to nevada and south carolina? >> first of all, david, i just love elizabeth warren. i think that it was a great exchange the two of you had, one of the great attributes that elizabeth warren brings to the race is that she's disciplined on methods. she is consistent with why she is running, what she stands for, and you saw that just play out in your discussion with her. elizabeth warren's big challenge right now over the next few weeks is keeping her campaign financially afloat, giving her donors a reason to keep going, especially if she doesn't come out of the first four states -- or if she comes out of the first four states with a shortage of delegates. however, i want to say this. going into super tuesday or rather i guess coming out of

super tuesday, i think that voer voters are going to be looking for somebody assuming it's michael bloomberg and bernie sanders that have the most delegates, i think voters are going to be looking for somebody else sort of who can straddle that middle line, if elizabeth warren can get through the next few weeks, she could be that person. >> money here is crucial, all the candidates are talking about that with the exception i suppose of michael bloomberg. how does she parlay that, the situation that she's in, into an effective campaign going to super tuesday? >> she does have a strong grass roots base campaign. she has a lot of donors who can give again and again. she's got to motivate those people to just get the cash in hand. that should be easy pickings for her frankly, and that's what they're probably going to do. there is one thing i'd like to go back to a question you asked about her rebooting her campaign coming out of iowa and new hampshire. i would argue she made a change in her campaign. she pivoted away after the -- she came out with a plan for

medicaid for all, and that was part of the reason people said she went down in the polls. listening to her message today nothing like the elizabeth warren who was storming the campaign trail in september and october. there was not one specific example she gave. that was part of her stock and trade. this is how i want to pay for college debt. this is how i want to do this for you and everything like that. she was just broad message. all i heard was fight, bloomberg or billionaire, and i'm going to keep working for you all. it wasn't -- it wasn't what we heard from elizabeth warren early on on the trail. >> great to see you, great to hear your comments as well. more scrutiny of attorney general bill barr as we learn the department of justice will not pursue charges against andrew mccabe, the former deputy head of the fbi. we're going to get some reaction from the administration next. motor?

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roger stone, convicted friend of president trump is demanding a new trial. this follows interventions by attorney general bill barr and president trump took to twitter to accuse the jury' forewoman of, quote, significant bias. roger stone stepped in and lessened stone's sentencing. monica alba is in west palm beach, florida, near the president's mar-a-lago residence. get us up to speed on what the administration is saying as we look ahead to roger stone's sentencing scheduled to take place in just a couple of day d >> reporter: quite a turbulent week for the entire department of justice. that started with this controversy in the roger stone sentencing questions and those prosecutors who then moved away from the proceedings over those changes and that culminated with those striking words from the attorney general on thursday and that interview where he implored

the president to stop tweeting, to make his job less difficult basically by not getting involved in some of these cases in the department of justice. the president essentially defying that request just hours later by tweeting that he hadn't himself meddled in these cases but that he was pointing out that he absolutely reserves the right to do so. now, it's worth noting that when he was asked this week whether he was considering a pardon for roger stone, the president said he didn't want to weigh in on that yet. and that is sort of the keyword there. he hasn't wanted to indicate it one way or the other on roger stone or michael flynn about potential pardons. i think that's one of the next phases of this that we'll really have to watch for. as the white house grapples with another tumultuous week we're getting a closer look at

the chaos and inner workings of the west week. these two reporters partnered together for their latest project entitled "singing in the swamp." let me start with something that you guys do so well, is look beyond this top layer. from those names that we know to focus on how this administration is running. there's great dysfunction therein. why has this been so widely ignored? >> first of all, i'll start with the premise that got us to write the book this way. you've seen the movie goodfellas i'm sure. the book on which it's based is this great book called "wiseguy" written by this veteran crime reporter. he said many years ago in this brief interview that randomly stuck in my memory that when he was writing a book about the mob, there were a lot of books

written about mob dons and he didn't want to do that. if he wrote a book about napoleon he'd want to jump in a time machine, pull a random soldier off of the battlefield and take down that person's soldier. from the ground up that's how you tell the story of napoleon, not through the eyes of napoleon himself. that's how he got the character of henry hill. we went about finding as many henry hills as we could within trump world. you tell the story from the bottom up, through the foot soldier. >> the henry hills are lurking around the trump international hotel there on pennsylvania avenue in d.c. how easy is it to get people to talk? are people willing to talk? something you write about in the book is what makes them willing to talk. >> the dynamics and the actual

makeup of white house personnel has changed so dramatically since 2017. when we first started reporting together, we found there was a niche that wasn't really being explored in white house, a lot of mid level folks who were willing to come to us and basically gripe about their day to day and being forced to deal with the fallout from these earth shattering events reported seemingly on a daily basis. we look back on may 2017 when comey was fired as this absolute disaster on the white house beat. we just sort of organically fell into that role. a lot of the books focus on the president himself or his inner circle. we felt there was an untold story there that really illuminated a behind the scenes perspective that hadn't really gotten out there. >> i'll ask you news of the day, news of the woke. hope hicks moving back to washington, d.c., reentering the

fold. each statement stresses her loyalty and her dedication. there's nobody more loyal than she. what should we make of that, the rebirth within the swamp that you describe in this book? >> it is accurate to state that president trump himself does look at hope hicks as something of a surrogate daughter. his nicknames for her include hopester and hophopey. she is unflinchingly loyal. she was going around telling friends a couple of years ago when she first departed the administration that i do not see a return to the administration at least for one year. she kept her word. it's been two years. it's not entirely a surprise that she's back. >> congrats on the book. it's pro feifane in a wonderful. the book is "sinking in the

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menendez. >> the 2020 candidates are spread out coast to coast today, making their case to voters in key upcoming states. meanwhile, early caucus is underway in nevada with the main event set for next weekend. it's a quick sprint to south carolina before super tuesday when 14 states get their say. we're also keeping an eye on washington where it has been a chaotic week for the justice department from stone to mccabe and flynn, questions about the line between politics and the rule of law. first, we're one week away from the nevada caucus. early voting is happening right now at 82 sites across the state. simone boise is one of those sites right now. tell us what it is like on the ground there. >> reporter: we are here at the east las vegas library. i want to start by talking about the appearance we had from former senator harry reid. he stopped by here