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>> that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm craig melvin. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, breakering overnight. americans set to be rescued from a cruise ship and away from hundreds of coronavirus patients. this morning, why some may not want to leave. president trump's tangle with bill barr and his own justice department why there is fear in one corner today. nevada or bust. why this could be a pivotal few days in determining who is the 2020 presidential nominee. flood zone. one state is bracing for rising waters that are called historic
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and unprecedented. we start with breaking news on the coronavirus. the u.s. embassy in japan is preparing to evacuate nearly 400 americans on a quarantined cruise ship in yokohama. >> several passengers tested positive for the virus. as of today, 355 confirmed cases on board. those people were removed from the ship and taken to the hospital to receive treatment. >> right now, there are more than 69,000 confirmed cases in 24 countries. more than 1,600 people have died. joining us from yokohama, japan, is janice. do you get a feeling of relief or dread and when they will be released from the boat? >> reporter: a mixture of everything of the people we have been talking to. as you can tell, not the best
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conditions tonight for getting 400 some people off the cruise ship, but we know that earlier in the day they began to make preparations at the port here with areas were covered with tarps that could go from the ship to buses, so that people could be taken to the airport. this was supposed to happen over the course of a few hours according to officials and what passengers were telling us, so we assumed that process is under way. they are being told they will be taken to the airport here and likely spend several hours waiting at a hangar as the flight is prepared and people are screened foe symptoms before they get on board. of course, only healthy people will be allowed to get on this charter flight and anyone seen as having symptoms of the virus will need to stay here in japan and seek treatment with the others who are here. there are at least 40 americans who are in hospitals right now. there has been very mixed
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response to this offer from u.s. officials. some people seeing it as their only way out, although they aren't thrilled with the idea of another two weeks of quarantine at a u.s. military facility once they get back on u.s. soil. there are some people saying they are just not getting on the plane at all and take their chances and stay here, wait out the quarantine on the ship which is supposed to end sometime next week. and then if they pass a test with japanese officials, they test negative for the virus, then they will be allowed to stay in japan. however, u.s. officials are being very cleared that they will not be allowed to return to the united states until march 4th at the earliest. those circumstances could change. there was a lot of decision making on a lot of people over the course of the last 24 hours as this evacuation is getting under way. >> it's increasingly turning into a cruise from had ell for
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many people and including honeymooners who are on board there. they say everybody on board is at high risk for exposure. that said what is being done to keep them safe and healthy during this transition process? >> reporter: this is a big concern among the people who have decided to leave the ship. they are saying, look. we have been in circumstances that we have been able to control. we have been respecting the isolation, we have been watching where we go, who we mingle with, if at all, even stepping out on to the balcony for a breath of fresh air. they take every step as a risk assessment. they are feeling vul unbelievable that they are going from these conditions that they have been able to control on to a bus of people who they don't know if they have been following the same quarantine rules. they are going to be getting on a plane with these people and spending a lot of time in very close quarters. the sense is that while there may be some risk and there is no guarantee of taking this flight back, that there is a very high
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risk associated with being on this ship. another 70 cases confirmed today. now 355 people on board have been diagnosed with the virus. >> janis, i want to confirm something you mentioned earlier when it comes to the healthy versus nonhealthy leaving the ship or the healthy not leaving the ship? once they have finished their quarantine on the ship and step off into japan territory, is it your understanding that they can't go back to the u.s. even after that, even after completing the quarantine, until march 4th? is that correct? >> march 4th would mark two weeks from the 19th of february which is, as it stands, the end of the quarantine for the ship. so if people come off the ship and they test negative, then they would spend the next two weeks in japan at least before they would be allowed to travel back to the united states. the question is will the
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quarantine end on the 19th of february? there is more cases that are being diagnosed and if there is any hesitation on the part of japanese officials, it is up to them whether they extend the quarantine. >> wow! all right. janis mackey, thank you for all of this. it sounds like folks who pass the quarantine have to undergo a second quarantine in japan. >> people are weighing whether they will take the flight from the united states so they can come back here at travis air force base and wait it out on here. >> we will keep an eye on that. president trump is in florida today and making appearance at a top sporting event. four-day swing to western states and before the nevada caucuses. also on the heels of what some
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call trump's week of retributi n retribution. >> with us is our reporting travel with the president in florida and jonathan allen who is traveling bus in new york. welcome in. good morning to both of you. monica, start with you. walk us through what is happening today and the rest of the week. >> reporter: yes. so, today, the president will be the only second sitting president to ever attend the daytona 500 and the honor of being named the grand marshal. that means he is able to tell the drivers to famously start their engines. we are told he may take a lap on the track in the beast and be a lot of sort of celebration and special events in terms of what he is going to be doing there. he will address the crowd as well. it's an event for his re-election. the campaign is airing a brand-new ad and flying an aerial barn during all of it and what this week is coming up. he is heading out west to four
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different states. he is going to raise a lot of money in california. then he is going to have three back-to-back rallies in phoenix, colorado springs, and then, finally, in las vegas. that is critical on friday because it's the day before the democratic caucuses there. this is a pattern we saw emerge in iowa and in new hampshire and that sort of the president and the re-election campaign trying to stomp on the democrats' message and what they are doing in the early states. as a reminder, there isn't a republican caucus in nevada. they cancelled there to consolidate support for the president. this is more of a show of force and a reminder to the voters who might be thinking about supporting democrats, hey, well, you guys figure out who you're going to be naming as your eventual nominee. we have a pretty robust general operation nine months out. >> monica alba, thank you. >> let's bring in jonathan
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allen. it's somewhat of a tumultuous week. which could be in my opinion week in washington. some are calling it trump's week of rage and retribution and his advisers say there is little incentive for him to hold his fire. what do you make of this washington week? >> i think his advisers are essentially right. the united states senate listened to his lawyers who said that the president can do what he wants in pursuit of his own re-election. almost said he can do whatever he wants short of treason or taking cash bribes and that would be legitimate for him to do without being impeached or removed from office. the united states senate voted to acquit him. there isn't a whole lot of limit of what the president can do, according to the united states senate and according to the justice department which has a memo saying they won't prosecute him for anything. the president is taking that
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advisement he can do whatever he wants and we are seeing the results of that. >> this might be the question who is next and if anyone is off limits here? >> there really aren't a lot of people in the administration who could be off limits. to be fair to the president, generally speaking, he has the power to fire the people in his administration or to remove them from the positions that they are in they are in the white house and need to be reassigned somewhere. i think the issue often is the motive or what has been in the past and often presidents haven't wanted to remove people and it could be seen as corrupt in the case of removing people who are making decisions that affect the president. what we saw, for instance in the justice department this week, he didn't remove prosecutors. what they did, they resigned when their decision to go after roger stone their sentencing recommendations vacated, they signed in what looked like a
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parallel to the saturday night massacre back during the watergate. then you saw lieutenant colonel vindman escorted from the white house. the one threat does not exist is the president being impeached and removed from office. >> one of the other headlines is hope hicks returns to the white house. what do you make of her return? >> i think the white house 79 people on board capable of running communications and basically having the president's confidence in the roles and the confidence in the people around the president in those roles. the president has been doing his own communications quite sometime now. we haven't had a white house briefing in many, many, many months. and so it doesn't surprise me that they want hope hicks in there to try to get some balance in washington as the president ramps up his campaign effort. >> speaking of bringing other people back in.
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we did hear rumors that sean spicer might be coming back into the fold as well. >> i haven't heard that but i'm sure our friends upstairs at "saturday night live" would be thrilled to hear that! >> they are ready to go with that cameo appearance. >> sean spicer best known for his appearance on "dancing with the stars." >> that is a different network, kendis! >> i was talking about his valentine's day on cam mow. >> everyone should tune into "saturday night live" on saturday nights on nbc. >> many took advantage of the early voting in nevada on saturday. polls open every day until tuesday. 82 sites across the state. rest of the nevada voters get a
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chance this coming saturday during the caucus. >> eight democratic candidates have been traveling across the country and many devoting their most time to nevada. the candidates have held more than 160 events in the state since campaigning began last year. today, they are crisscrossing the country, actually, looking ahead to upcoming primaries while keeping the focus on nevada. >> almost everybody was in las vegas yesterday and speaking to a rowdy crowd and one of his best moments passing the affordable care act. >> now donald trump and some democrats want to get over it but not over my dead body will they get rid of it. we not only have to restore it, we have to improve it. >> also there is senator elizabeth warren speaking at a town hall where a young girl asked her a question that goes to the heart of her campaign. >> why do you think it's important for women to run for
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president? >> oh! it's not only important that women run for president, it's important that women get elected president! >> pete buttigieg was in vegas addressing his experience as mayor and why he says that is just the kind of experience the white house needs. >> some folks say why would you have a mayor become the fr president? that is important for me because you need a mayor to get things done and i think we need that attitude to washington instead of the other way around. >> tom steyer gave out tacos to people in vegas and hired a band. telling them he will fight what is right. >> the grassroots and actually to give people around nevada the power to take over thain owner government and change it for the better. >> it's not even tuesday and he is giving out tacos and eating.
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>> senator bernie sanders hyping up a crowd of early voters sticking to his message big money doesn't belong in politics. >> democracy is not billionaires spending hundreds of millions of dollars trying to get elected. democracy is when working people stand up, fight for justice! and when we bring our people together and participate in the political process. >> senator amy klobuchar stopped at a black history event while campaigning through nevada telling the crowd more people should be like nevada. >> in the middle of the country from where i'm from, i want to see a little more nevada out there. my plan is to build a beautiful blue wall of democratic votes
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around those states and make donald trump pay for it. how do we do it? how do we do it? we vote. >> michael bloomberg is not on the nevada ballots, so he spent the day campaigning in virginia, telling voters there he plans to get president trump out of the white house. >> somebody may have heard the slogan mike will get it done and if you haven't heard it, then i'm wasting a lot of money on my campaign. let me tell you what the "it" is. it means winning this november and sending donald trump back to mar-a-lago permanently! >> some are looking to reconfirm their victories in nevada and for others it's do or die in nevada. >> we have our correspondents in las vegas and washington, d.c. good morning, ladies. priscilla, start with you. the candidates attended a party
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last night in las vegas. what was the reception there? >> yeah, good morning. it was quite a night last night. former vice president joe biden, hands down, got one of the strongest receptions from the crowd there. he actually came in to the banquet hall a little bit before the event got under way and as soon as folks started him, they started shouting, joe, joe, joe! a crowd swarmed him to take selfies. another chant rose up. it was fired up and ready for joe. a play on president obama's 2008 slogan. and that energy certainly continued whenever biden took the stage with folks waving signs and standing throughout his remarks to applaud him. and a number of folks left the event after he finished speaking. very telling there of the energy around his campaign here. pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar had a number of folks in the audience with signs cheering them op. one thing worth noting.
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bernie sanders and joe steyer, who candidates who have been strong in the polls here, seemed to get opolite applause last night and might have to do with bernie sanders against a bit of the ropes here with the culinary union who is not in support of his medicare for all proposal and may have seen that spill over last night in the polite applause and reception he got from the room there. >> very interesting. lauren, the next question is for you. it seems all eyes on nevada more so this year than in other years. can you break it down? is it more important? if so, why? >> reporter: definitely. i think it's being highlighted more this year than we maybe have seen in previous elections because we have such a muddled democratic field. you know, i think a lot of people are looking towards nevada to see what people will do on super tuesday. nevada is, of course, the first state we see a more diverse
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coalition coming off of iowa and new hampshire where over 90% of voters there are white. nevada is the first opportunity for a lot of these candidates to show that they have the ability to get a black vote, to get the latino vote. that is really a necessary coalition in order to win the democratic nomination. i think something important about nevada is that it will kind of dictate what we should expect on super tuesday. super tuesday is, of course, just two weeks after nevada and super tuesday, you'll have states like california and texas vote and those are two of the most delegate rich states we will see in this primary, and they have a huge population of latino voters, so it's going to be really important to foreshadow what to expect a few weeks from now. keep in mind on super tuesday we will see over a quarter of the delegates allocated that day so one of the last few moments to
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show people you are strong into the next few weeks of campaigning. >> i know people are looking forward to super tuesday. lauren and priscilla, thank you. on wednesday, nbc news and msnbc will be hosting the next democratic debate live from las vegas. just three days before the nevada caucuses. it is live on nbc. a rough week at the justice department, setting off aalarm bills. >> why it is putting doj staffers in an awkward position. record flooding in mississippi as hundreds evacuate and the worst may still be on the way. i'm 52. but in my mind i'm still 25. that's why i take osteo bi-flex, to keep me moving the way i was made to. it nourishes and strengthens my joints for the long term. osteo bi-flex - now in triple strength plus magnesium.
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today. let's get to morning headlines. a state of emergency in mississippi because of this here. evacuations under way as part of the state brace for more historic flooding. now the governor warns to get out before it's too late. nbc blaine alexander reports from jackson. >> reporter: all eyes are on the swelling pearl have i ever as jackson, mississippi, breaks for near record flooding. heavy rain across the south the river is spilling over its bank but officials fear it will only get worse lead to go what could be one of the most devastating floods in state history. >> we haven't seen flood levels like this in the area since 1983. >> reporter: mississippi governor tate reeves has declared a state of emergency. >> take care of yourself and your loved ones. get out while you can. do not return until officials have determined that it is safe. >> reporter: many spent the day
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[ inaudible ] into moving trucks. jen henderson went back to her home to save her favorite chair. the only way in was this boat. >> things are starting to float away that are on my porch, you know? looking out from my bedroom window, it looks like i live on the river. >> reporter: about 12 miles upstate in ridgeland, mississippi, many homes are already under water. in jackson officials say it could be close to a week before residents can return. >> you've been here 14 years. >> yes. >> the water has never come this close to your house? >> no. not even close. >> a black college swimmer says a group of police officers pointed gonzalez at his head while he was on a trip with his team last year. 20-year-old jalen butler of eastern illinois university says that the officers handcuffed him and threw him on the ground and threatened to, quote, blow his head off. butler says they mistook him for a suspect. officers eventually let him go. butler is suing for false arrest
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and excessive force. a rare snowstorm created this massive snow wall here. you can see it blanketed the entire city in turkey. the stunning video shows the snowstorm moving fast from the black sea. now, apparently, snowstorms, in general, in that part of the world in turkey and the region there, are fairly rare, so you don't get a sight like that to see the snow wall come up is daunting. >> we are from arizona and that looks like a dust storm. >> haboob? >> yes. >> it's like a thick fog. you have to stop what you're doing. we move on now. this morning, what "the washington post" is calling resentment and suspicion inside the justice department. >> "the post" reporting after a tumultuous week for federal law enforcement in which attorney general barr declared he could not do his job with the
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president kept tweeting about criminal cases and several current and former officials expressed alarm at what they characterized as a troubling pattern. joining us is glenn kirschner. what are employees thinking and doing the fact they are in the news almost daily? >> i think doj employees are probably looking over their shoulder wondering if i do the work that has been assigned to me and do it honestly and ethically and accordance with the evidence will some hack second-guess me, disagree me, undercut me, and then ruin my reputation? that is really exactly what bill barr did to the four career
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prosecutors, their honest and ethical and public working. i worked on the roger stone case when i was an assistant d.a. after john cravas filed a 26-page sentencing memorandum which i recommend if anybody wants to see how a prosecution sentencing memorandum ought to be put together, read his 20-page sentencing memorandum, where he reaches the entirely supportable conclusion that seven to nine years is the fair, just, and appropriate sentence for roger stone's crimes. and then the president sends out an angry 2:00 a.m. tweet and bill barr rushes to undo that sentencing recommendation and has one of his flunkies file this four-page memo.
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let me read the one thing he opens with, whereas, the prosecutor said seven to nine was fair. he opens with bill barr. the government respectfully submits that the sentencing range of seven to nine years is inappropriate and does not serve the interest of justice. is it any wonder those four prosecutors walked away from that case? >> i can't help but -- i can't wrap my head around why the president would get involved in this or why the justice department would get involved in this any way in the sentencing, considering he is going to get a pardon, right? >> probably. kendis, i can't wrap my head around it either. i do know the way this played out, this is bill barr and donald trump weaponizing the criminal justice system and the department of justice to punish his enemies and award his friends and associates, and that is why so many career department
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of justice employees don't know which way is up. >> that is why ellie was on our air yesterday saying you had four prosecutors who kit but you need thousands to quit to really send a message out there to this department. >> i was on with eli and i am always inspired by ellie. i agree with him that it would send a powerful message if thousands of prosecutors would just walk away from their work with the department of justice. let me tell you, when i retired about 18 months ago, it was difficult for me to walk away from my cases and from my victims and from the work i was doing on behalf of the american people. so i understand it's not an easy decision for prosecutors, even in the ordinary course of business. so i agree with ellie sentiments
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it may be time to have a dramatic showing and we kind of have to the justice bull by the horns and try to make this right. >> glenn, thank you. >> new editorial making the case that mike bloomberg is the only candidate who can beat trump at his own game. that is up next. a viral moment after a astronaut returns to earth after nearly a year in space. nevada may be next to vote but south carolina is on the horizon and the first test is a core with the democratic vote. coming up on "velshi" they will talk about the importance of the south carolina race. ♪ ♪ ♪ (burke) we've seen almost everything, so we know how to cover almost anything. even a "gold medal grizzly."
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some people say that's ridiculous. age is just an illusion. how you show up for the world, that's what's real. what's your idea? i put it out there with a godaddy website. we are back this morning with some must reside. first, george conway in "the washington post" says there is no one to stop president trump right now. this is the op-ed he wrote referring to the president's
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relationship with bill barr. take a look here at what he writes. >> the "chicago tribune's" clarence page, however, is saying there is someone who can stop the president and that is democratic michael bloomberg. joining us now is scott long, a senior staff writer for "the hill." good morning to you, scott. also, you wrote this week about how bloomberg is building momentum on capitol hill. he is racking up endorsements and rising in the polls. is page's column your sentiment here? >> clearly, there is a lot of buzz on capitol hill about
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michael bloomberg, especially given the muddled political field we see in the democratic party right now where there is no clear front-runner. yes, bernie sanders does have momentum but he is also engendered a lot of concern and consternation from democrats he is too liberal for the democratic field. a lot of people are turning their attention as joe biden also stumbles in the field, to michael bloomberg, who has this enormous war chest, really unlimited resources and we are seeing him spend those resources more than 300 million and he is expected to spend more. there is a lot of momentum for michael bloomberg, at least when it comes to the folks on capitol hill who tend to know their
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districts around the country, they know the sentiments of voters. so everyone is giving michael bloomberg a fresh look. >> yeah. does that include the 2020 candidates, many of his rivals? are they starting to see him as a threat? >> i think so. if you look at what transpired the past week, you saw candidates seize on some of the criticism that already existed with michael bloomberg. his stop and frisk policy when he was new york mayor, a new clip emerged, as you guys know, from 2015, just a few years ago, where he was continuing to defend that harsh policing practice. also he has, in the past, defended a discriminatory housing practice known as red lining in 2008. while he is getting a fresh look from the media and from some of his colleagues in the democratic party, he is also getting
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renewed scrutiny. i think you are seeing, you know, these candidates, some of his rivals turn their attention more and more to bloomberg as they have seen him creep up in the polls to now third place nationally, just behind joe biden. you're also seeing the president, himself, take aim on twitter to michael bloomberg, as he has also seen bloomberg creep up in the polls. >> more attention and more scrutiny why so many other candidates want to see bloomberg on that debate stage. scott long, thank you. >> thank you. more tributes are planned at tonight's nba all-star game in chicago for kobe bryant. nba commissioner adam silver announced the nba all-star game mvp award has been named for bryant. lakers star won the mvp trophy four times and was an 18-time all-star. former president barack obama hosted a fireside chat in chicago, alongside nba stars kevin love, chris paul, and
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giannis antetokounmpo. they reflected on bryant's legacy and his second face after he retired from basketball. >> last conversation i had with him was with him and vanessa in l.a. i asked him, "do you miss basketball"? >> he said i don't miss it at all and i don't touch a basketball because i am as competitive and focused on the second phase, and we were talking about how we could work together in the foundation to mentor and lift up young men of color who are at risk. >> derek jones jr. of the miami heat won the all-star dunk contest. gordon later said he felt he should have won this year and won in 2016 as well and said he probably won't do the test again. you got to go out on top, right? emotional video is going
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vir viral. [ screaming ] >> if you don't recognize who that is, it is this woman and hero to girls everywhere american restaurant christinea a koch reuniting with her dog. she spent 328 days in space, setting a record for the longest single flight by a woman. she returned safely back to earth and got her tacos and salsa and now has her pup. >> that is almost 6 1/2 dog years she has been gone! >> that's true! >> the dog remembered all of that and the dog is saying, i'm hungry? where you been? it's been 328 years! >> come on, let's do this! >> very cool. >> great video. >> antetokounmpo. i can also spell it for you! >> he is having an average year
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in the nba. >> oh, my goodness. just an average year, i would say. >> like the all-star drunk contest, they are pretty average as well, wouldn't you say? i think they could soar over this stuff. >> we look garlforward to the g. they are doing something in the fourth quarter of today's game. they will turn off the shot clock and the first team to get to 24, which is kobe bryant's number, will be the winner. interesting little concept. >> that is a neat way to honor him. we move on to a warning on a leading figure on wall street about bernie sanders. >> investors don't seem to be worried about a sanders' presidency. we will see why. did ♪ ♪ applebee's new irresist-a-bowls
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. this is interesting. there is new insight what bernie sanders nomination could mean for wall street. >> lloyd blankfein tweeted this. >> nielson to say lloyd blankfein is not a fan of bernie sanders. this appears a little more targeted to him. what does wall street believe are the indications of a sanders' presidency? >> reporter: a lot of concern on wall street that bernie sanders has emerged as the front-runner for the democratic party because of his proposals, particularly
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medicare for all. if you're an investor and you have stocks in private health care, private insurance companies, then if medicare for all were to become the law of the land, that would mean that your portfolio would lose a lot of money so a lot of investors are concerned about bernie sanders' proposals. when it comes to the tweet you were referring to earlier, lloyd blank blankfein is a former ceo of goldman saks. he doesn't tweet that often. for him to weigh in and tear into bernie sanders is striking and something to pay close attention to. when he says bernie sanders would, quote, ruin our economy, he is referring to bernie sanders basically proudly referring to himself as a democratic socialist and what that means for the u.s. economy in terms of possibly, if he is president, would the u.s. economy become a socialist economy? we have seen from what happened with the cold war when tsoviet
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union had that and it tanked and we don't want to see that happen in the united states. >> here is a poll. 53% of americans would not vote for a socialist president. are the markets responding to sanders' lead in polling? >> yes. what you're seeing with the markets this week, so stocks posted a gain for the week. we are not seeing it really impact the stock market because of one key reason. many investors who are opposed to seeing bernie sanders as a democratic nominee don't think he is electable. they think that president trump would likely defeat him and that is why we are seeing them concerned about bernie sanders and breathing a sigh of relief that means president trump will likely stay in power and they believe that president trump is good for stocks and you look at it, the proof in the pudding. while president trump has been president we have seen the stock market reach record high for all three major indices.
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>> but whoever in the white house needs support from congress so doesn't mean it's coming to fruition. >> if sanders or warren were to become warren became president they would have to deal with mitch mcconnell in the senate. when it comes to the tensions in washington it would dissipate and disappear once there is actually a democrat in office, if they actually were able to defeat president trump. >> sibile marcellus, thank you. a recycle crisis is under way and your city is on the front lines. >> hear why trash that you used to be able to recycle is now winding up in landfills. and we invite you to watch -- score extra savings on mattresses from tempurpedic, serta, beautyrest and sealy, starting at just $399! kick back and relax while we do all the heavy lifting.
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>> reporter: every week, residents of casa grande put their garbage on the curb and these trucks come to scoop it up. business as usual, right? but something's missing. just off this route, evidence of a painful loss. a blue bin graveyard proof here curbside recycling is all but dead. the 16,000 tons that used to be recycled every year now end up in the landfill. for more than 30 years this city was proud of its recycling program and now all the recyclable cans, plastic and paper comes here to be mixed in with the rest of the garbage. >> not a decision that was made lightly. >> reporter: last summer the city was forced to dump recycling causing recycling companies to dramatically boost prices on city programs. kevin lewis says the cost of keeping the service was too catastrophic. >> unless we increased the fees
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to our residents, we weren't going to be able to continue the program. >> reporter: skyrocketing costs are impacting programs across the country. more than 50 municipalities have suspended curbside recycling and programs in every state have seen a dire ripple effect from spiking costs to plastics and paper being rejected. and swelling landfills are belching up methane gas climate change. >> the recycling is coming at a time when we can't afford environmentally for it to collapse. >> reporter: back in casa grande some aren't giving up. >> aluminum goes in here. >> reporter: teacher rick wilson has been running a one-man volunteer operation in the back of his school taking the thousands of pounds he collects direct three a recycling center. >> every time i put a bottle in there and recycle something, that's what i'll hold on to. >> reporter: for now on the shoulder of residents like
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wilson as cities look for cheaper options. >> everybody needs to keep trying. no matter what you hear, do not give up on recycling. >> reporter: waiting for the day that recycling can rise out of the dumps. steve paterson, nbc news, casa grande, arizona. >> never thought of that. so many programs cutting back. >> so many people don't know you can't put things that are soiled with food in recycling and they don't know all the strict rules and it costs more to sort through all of that. >> and it's a waste. what is the point? in our next hour, we'll talk with reverend al sharpton about michael bloomberg. his stop and frisk policy and apology and whether beating president trump is all that matters. and drama on the diamond princess. americans may be getting off the ship this hour, but it doesn't necessary mean their ordeal is over. it probably isn't. the latest on the coronavirus outbreak next.
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