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>> regardless of how much money a multi-billionaire candidate is willing to spend on his election, we will not create the energy and excitement we need to defeat donald trump if that candidate pursued advocated for and enacted racist policies like

stop and frisk. >> all right. the fighting among the democratic presidential hopefuls is getting more heated and personal by the day. that was senator bernie sanders at an event in las vegas last night with some of his strongest rhetorical attacks yet. calli calling michael bloomberg and days ahead of wednesday's debate which is hosted by msnbc and bloomberg is expected to qualify for that debate which will mark his first time on stage and during remarks last night the senator from vermont gave a major preview of what we can expect. >> we will not defeat donald trump with a candidate who in 2015 stated and i quote, i, for example, am not in favor, have never been in favor of raising the minimum wage. we will not defeat donald trump with a candidate who instead of holding the crooks on wall street accountable blame the end of racist policies such as

redlining for the financial crisis. the simple truth is that mayor bloomberg with all his money will not create the kind of excitement and energy we need to have the voter turn out we must have to defeat donald trump. >> all right. bloomberg has vowed to lend his backing to whoever the nominee is, even if it's not him. the bernie camp has already indicated it would not accept that money. the latest real clear politics national polling shows sanders in the lead with biden number two, bloomberg is now in third place, elizabeth warren is in fourth place. again, despite all the ink everybody gets, buttigieg in a national poll is in fifth place. joining us now from las vegas the editor of the nevada independent and msnbc political analyst john ralston.

i'm messing this all up. john and allison is a member of she the people. thank you for being here this morning. >> hi, ali. >> john, let's talk about this. a lot of energy and excitement that goes into coverage of the caucus in iowa. the primaries in new hampshire and now the caucus in nevada. what actually do you think the nevada caucus is going to tell us? when you and i are talking when we're in las vegas a week from now, what are we going to know that we don't know today? >> well, it's a good question, ali. it is a caucus, as you know, it will not be the same as iowa. still a lot of ex-factors out there because early voting started yesterday and they never had early voting before. we don't know what the overall turnout is going to be. having said that, i think the two main questions are, can bernie sanders who has a formidable organization here continue the momentum that he's built in iowa and new hampshire and who will emerge as the

anti-bernie candidate. joe biden at the event that you played the sound from bernie at went after bernie. he is trying to save his campaign here. can he do it? amy klobuchar also would like to be seen as the person who is not bernie sanders who has a chance to win a general election. and you have mayor pete who has a formidable organization here, as well, even though he hasn't shown up in the polls until very recently. can he carry through the momentum that he got from iowa and new hampshire and do well here? i've been doing this here now for more than three decades, ali, more uncertainty before this caucus than i've ever seen before. >> one of the pieces of uncertainty is mike bloomberg and his polling indicates he might make it to that debate. for the first time on the stage, we got a taste of what bernie sanders is going to give him. we know elizabeth warren is going to give it to him over redlining. does all the fire start focusing

on mike bloomberg this week? >> i think a couple things. one is that mike bloomberg on stage is going to clarify some things for democrats and give it a clear choice. the talking points that bernie sanders and elizabeth warren have had for over a year which is making their case to the base about the importance of people power over corporate power is going to be tested. i think the real ex-factor in the nevada caucus is women of color. women of color are 26% of democratic voters. so, for the first time this early state most clearly reflects the demographics of states going forward into super tuesday. so candidates like buttigieg and amy klobuchar we were talking about, when we put a poll out before iowa they were polling at 1% and 2% respectively. they are not registering with the women of color who are the most loyal democrats.

i think we're going to see that our polls showed both bernie sanders and biden and elizabeth warren in the double digits among likely caucus goers in nevada. this is going to be a real test and the talking points are going to be sharpened because of bloomberg's presence in that race. >> john, there are a lot of things about bernie sanders and elizabeth warren that should or might resonate with people in nevada. first of all, their emphasis on unions and the idea that bernie sanders we just played that clip talks about minimum wage, something that mike bloomberg never supported. on the other hand, both support medicare for all and they've stepped into a bit of a tug of war with unions which are very strong in nevada. many of whom spent many years negotiating fantastic health care plans. tell me where this plays out? >> yeah, you're absolutely right, ali? the main union here. the biggest union in nevada.

the 50,000 to 60,000 members and represents a lot of folks who work in the casinos. they put out a couple fliers to their members. one was an oblique attack on medicare for all and on warren and bernie and the second one was much more focused on bernie sanders. they have not endorsed anybody. i think joe biden was hoping to get their endorsement. but what a lot of people are saying, listen, bernie sanders is the strongest candidate for unions in the race. why is this union doing this? there has been a lot of nastiness going back and forth between some of his supporters and that union. but the fact not to endorse, ali, is a big deal because they could have helped joe biden or mayor pete. by saying we don't like bernie sanders the effect is going to be dispersed among the candidates. so, i don't think that's going

to be as much of a hinderous to bernie sanders as it might have been. i still think he is the favorite to win here. >> aimee allison, when you look at the rankings of the candidates as they stand right now with delegates and if you look at the polling, it tells a bit of a different story than you sometimes see in the coverage when it comes to the two, or three women in the race but the two leading women in the race. elizabeth warren and amy kl klobuchar. in your group, she the people, do you think about the best policies for women or candidates who are women? >> oh, well, you know, amongst women of color who are more likely to vote for women of any race, this is a progressive group. the policies of economic and racial justice bubble up. i mean, when we were doing our polling and conversations with our national network, it's health care. it's issues of criminal justice reform. it's issues of fairness that bubble up for women of color.

so, i do think it is the policies. the one factor is that despite the results and really the erasure of elizabeth warren, we're going to see the senator in a new light after nevada because not only was she specifically courting women of color in her policies, she can speak about redlining because she's talked about housing, about affordable housing and how to make a long history of racism that has prevented people of color from building wealth by owning property. she can talk like that because that has been part of her talking point. so, i think that's what is resonating for not only women of color in nevada, but nationally. i think there is another opportunity for her campaign to make that case and to demonstrate that she has the momentum going into super tuesday that way. >> an interesting week and it's going to end when we have this knch conversation next sunday. thanks to both of you for

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>> drop out, joe. >> skip nevada, skip south carolina. just go home early. that kind of stuff is just not nice. once considered the frontrunner, former vice president joe biden is now looking like he's facing an uphill battle in south carolina as the first test with the core of the democratic base gets under way and that's black voters, by the way. more than half of south carolina's electorate and they're about two-thirds of south carolina's democratic primary voters. and the latest polling shows biden's firewall takesing a bit of a hit over the past two weeks. sanders is surging as michael bloomberg's growing support among black politicians has taken the spotlight in recent

days. after backlash, generational wealth within the black community through homeownership and a $70 billion investment in america's most disadvantaged communities. joining me now mayor keshia lance bottoms who is supporting former vice president for president. great to see you here. >> great to see you, too. and there's always room for you to come back home. >> i appreciate it. thank you, ma'am. let's talk about joe biden and what's going on with him amongst african-americans. that was his firewall. there were a lot of people who said he doesn't have to do great in iowa or new hampshire, which he didn't. but once we get to south carolina, those numbers were immovable and now they've started to move. why? >> well, no one ever said this would be easy and i think that

when you have millions upon millions of dollars being poured into a campaign i think you should expect some movement. what i can say is this, you lived in atlanta, the south has something to say and that's all i got to say. by that i mean we've only seen two states vote thus far. those two states are not representative of who we are as america in many ways because they're not the most diverse states. but, certainly not representative of who we are as a party. over 99% of african-americans and the latino population have not had an opportunity to have their say and they will do that in the next week and forward. i think that we had to be very careful not to inadvertently suppress the vote by giving the impression that this race is

over. this race is far from over. joe biden is it still solid with the african-american community. people still know and remember and respect the work that he did alongside president obama and i think you'll see that stick all the way through super tuesday. >> your message that this race is far from over is very, very clear. there's a lot to come. however, joe biden, we're going to be talking in a moment to steve benjamin who you know from columbia, south carolina, about some things that are coming back to bite mike bloomberg. his involvement with the crime bill and he seems to have ur survived that. what do you think now is the issue? a lot of solid support among older african-americans and younger african-americans are starting to find bernie sanders' pitch resonating with them and other members of the african-american community like the rest of us are subject to mike bloomberg's tv ads which

are also very effective. >> well, i think that people in so many ways are just starting to pay attention. i asked my husband just the other day, i said, what are people saying at work about the presidential election? and he said, nobody is talking about the presidential election right now. and i think for those of us who are inside of the bubble, we are living in it and we're speaking it each and every single day. for the rest of america until it gets to their state, i don't know that you will have people pay as close attention. and, you know, there are discussions about joe biden's support of the 1994 crime bill. people forget that bernie sanders also voted to support the 1994 crime bill. i think in the same way that they have been called upon to explain those votes, i think that you will see other candidates who will have to explain in detail what their positions have been on policies that have impacted communities of color. >> mayor keshia lance bottoms,

thank you for joining us. i always appreciate talking to you. the mayor of atlanta. joining me now is mayor steve benjamin, mayor of columbia, south carolina. co-chair of michael bloomberg campaign. >> good to see you. >> it's a good morning when i can talk to both of you. the last time you and i talked this just started to bubble up about the comments about stop and frisk and the redlining stuff. at some point someone may have to, might be mike reckon the idea that the talk he is talking and the walk he is walki ing are having a hard tim coming together. >> first of all, i'll challenge the basis of your comment, as well as i did. >> let's get to it. anyone who said the financial crisis is caused by redlining is lying. >> that is not what he said. >> i'm going to ask my producer

to find what he said because he very specifically said that redlining allowed banks -- >> he said loans have been made to folks that shouldn't have been made loans to. that's what he said. which is true. >> that is true. but blame black and brown people for that? >> that's not what he said, ali. he said that loan packagers preyed on people who shouldn't have made loans. which is true. the bank supported that -- >> they created this. >> and encourage it. banks were at fault. loan packages are at fault. people taken advantage of, not at fault. as a mayor of new york city and used his foundation to help cities all around the country to help people stay in their homes and created more affordable housing in new york city. 175 thousand units than any other city in the country. he opened up opportunities for african-americans and latinos and working class people all across new york city. and god bless all of our

candidates i know senator warren had something to say about this and i'll watch what senator sanders has had to say. we can't repeat 2016 here. just try to tear each other apart. we have offices in 40 states and two territories right now. working and pulling together an incredible broad swath of americans who are supporting -- >> i agree. >> and i tell you, i will disagree with keshia on one point. everywhere i go, people are talking about this election. people want to send donald trump home. we were in chattanooga, tennessee, a space for 500 people and the fire marshal shut it down it filled up. 300 more people outside. >> let's just go back to this, i think you're right we need to be intellectually honest about this. redlining was made illegal in 1965 to 1968. the idea that in a conversation about what caused the financial crisis you would blame the elimination of a racial

practice, right? >> are your producers back yet? >> he did say redlining, i have said for ten years i have been covering this. i have said -- 12 years covering the recession. banks, practices, greedy bank practices were responsible for it. in my life i never said redlining is what it was. >> combine would the incredibly robust investment and building a middle class that america participated in the 20th century that was limited mostly to white families is part of the challenge we face right now. >> right. >> that's not mike's record. that's not how he feels. >> how does he get that message out there? >> he's grinding. i will tell you that just in the last few days, i've been with him in 12 different cities. he's out there speaking directly to folks. people think it's me. he's out there working every single day. first one in the room and last one to leave the room and every opportunity to go face to face with some of the democratic

candidates. just actually listen very closely to what he says and even more importantly, listen closely to what he's done. mike has had the responsibility of delivering for people. not legislating in washington, d.c. >> it's weird, man. >> it makes a difference. people want someone to get something done. >> i'm a person of color and when i hear this stuff it sounds like racism. and it dropped on the day of the new hampshire primary, which is awful suspicious. >> amazing suspicious. the fact of the matter is that mike is rising in the polls. people from every background. we go to the events and hard core democrats and independents and moderate republicans who are showing up because they see the person who can beat donald trump in november. as a result, as a result, people are shooting down every single way. >> if you make it to the debate, which you might. >> entirely possible. >> what happens then because if guys like me are taking a shot at him, there are actually going to be seven other candidates on that stage. seven other candidates.

>> because they see what is happening, too. >> that's natural. >> he's winning. he is significant rise in the polls. this week number one in the poll in florida and number one in arkansas and two and three in missouri, texas. we are rising because people are buying into the message of the guy that can beat donald trump with a record of actually accomplishing something. not just talking about it for 30 years. >> what is the satisfaction you get out of michael bloomberg's plan to alleviate inequality? >> incredibly powerful. i was in tulsa with mike when he delivered the speech. we're not talking about 100 million new homeowners but businesses using the power of the federal government to invest $70 billion in the 100 most challenged neighborhoods in the country. increasing the partnership with african-american owned banks and in new york city increased the number of women and small

minority business and strategies that will help you, elevate people in communities all across the country. i will also challenge you on one other point you made earlier. mike does support a $15 minimum wage. he's on record doing so. the challenge we're facing right now, he talks about it regularly. the economy is very different than it was 10 years ago and 20 years ago. he worked through it and worked to build not only a business but inclusion and making sure that -- >> i appreciate you correcting me on that. i was speaking historically and i made not have made that clear. bernie sanders was making the point that he's always been about this. he brought everybody around, and i mean everybody is caught up to that and mike is there. >> he passed a law and congress to do it. he hasn't exactly. >> but a lot of companies that did target and walmart they influence -- >> you have to get things done. you can't just talk about it. >> they were influenced by this fight for 15 campaign.

you can't erase the idea that bernie sanders did make, remember, we were talking about 12 bucks an hour in '16. >> pass a law. make it happen. >> i'll see you in south carolina in two weeks. i bet we will have a chance to talk before. >> i bet so. coming up, an iceberg roughly the size of atlanta broke off a glacier in at arct ica this week. you are watching "velshi" on msnbc. try pantene daily moisture renewal conditioner. its color-safe formula uses smart conditioners to micro-target damage helping to repair hair without weighing it down. try pantene.

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we are three years into the trump presidency and one thing has become clear, our institutions are really only as strong as those who lead them. this week, bill barr's actions at the department of justice have come to a head. the attorney general has been slowly undermining the integrity of his office and his department. in a speech last november, barr painted a rather concerning picture. his vision of checks and balances. he specifically took aim at the judiciary branch saying, quote, the judiciary has been steadily encroaching on executive responsibilities in a way that has substantially undercut the presidency. now weakening his own branch to the benefit of the president and, why? trump's acquittal is perhaps the reason. he seemed to take acquittal as proof that theory of executive power is right or at the very least absorbed the information that there will be in the

republican party no one to stop him. joining me now, bill weld, former massachusetts governor and former u.s. attorney for the district of massachusetts. but he actually worked at senior levels in the department of justice. bill weld is running for president. governor, good to see you, again, thank you for being with us and i want to talk to you about your presidential run. i want to talk to you about this. to the degree the americans have not lived with deep concern about erosion of the department of justice itself. that now has come to the floor for so many people. >> well, you know, the memo that bill barr sent to the justice department in june of '18, a long time ago, essentially said the president is a monarch. those framers who met in philadelphia to draft our constitution would be rolling over in their graves if they could have read bill barr's assessment of the president's authority under article two of the constitution. he basically says the article one, the most important one, congress, can't touch the president any time the president

is using a power that is enumerated in article two, he's untouchable. doesn't matter if he's doing it for taking $100 million bribe. you can't take that question says bill barr in his auditioning memo which did succeed leading him in the top job. >> you and i have talked three times in the last week. right after your showing in new hampshire and then on friday night. you said to me on friday night when we talked you said you were sickened by bill barr's performance and criticizing his department and interference in cases and you mentioned the letter that you sent and the federalist society speech he gave in november. here's the bottom line. he is going to go before the judiciary committee at the end of march. what can possibly be done about this? >> well, i think he has to acknowledge that there are limits on his theories. he has these crack pot theories of essentially saying the president can do no wrong. and it's totally inconsistent

with the checks and balances and the constitution. just as is the president's theory that there are no checks and balances on him under article two. and that theory came from bill barr. so, i think the house judiciary committee should shine a very public light on those statements which totally fly in the face of the exact language of the constitution. >> i want to ask you one thing about your race. the one thing you have done is guaranteed despite the fact that the republican party is not really acknowledging you as a contender, donald trump will not get a clean sweep of delegates because you want a delegate in new hampshire. >> that's right. since then, ali, governor phil scott of vermont has endorsed me and that primary is coming up on super tuesday along with utah where evan mcmullen is going to be helpful to me and massachusetts and colorado and california. so, march 3rd is going to be a big day for me and i'm very grateful to have the support of governor scott of vermont in

that race. >> i'd like to talk to you the day after that. i would like to talk before that. i would like to speak to you after that. you are the last man standing on the republican party in terms of people who are actually running for president against donald trump. governor, always good to see you. governor bill weld of massachusetts, he is the former governor of massachusetts, but he is a 2020 republican presidential candidate. i want to bring in frank a former fbi assistant director for counterintelligence and an msnbc national security analyst. earlier i made a reference to frank or a reference to a letter that frank and 1,000 other people have signed condemning the president and the attorney general over the roger stone case. the letter has been signed 1,100 former prosecutors from both parties. and, frank, that's the first thing i want to ask you. we have spoken to justice department officials. we have spoken to former prosecutors and they've all said the same thing. that there's always been some sort of thing hanging over them. the white house wants something

or political interests want something. but the justice department has been successful in managing that in so far as career prosecutors and even political appointees have managed to push that off and say what justice stands for in this country is more important than politicalization. >> justice just upholds the law. i think, ali, if i had to characterize my own personal decision to sign off on this letter, it was a difficult decision but for that very reason that i see the rule of law being undermined, being compromised and i see attorney general barr as the driving force behind the undermining of the one institution in our society that's most responsible for preserving the rule of law. he simply fundamentally misunderstomi misunderstands or hijacked the role of attorney general. he's not america's attorney.

he has become trump's attorney and it's very dangerous. >> a misunderstanding or deliberate? >> well, i think the evidence is now clear. the first clue as governor weld said is when he auditioned for the job. so, you have the president's calling for his next roy cohn and barr raises his hand and says, i want to be that guy. the next clue when he recognized the mueller findings in the special counsel inquiry report and keeps saying no collusion. no obstruction when that was simply not the findings. fast forward and we see the roger stone sentencing recommendation and we see he has wrestled that away from the career professionals and done something that has really never been done before. we can't believe that he's going to change the stripes at this point and that's why you see 1,000 doj officials saying it is time for him to step down. >> i can't get enough of asking people like you this question. bill barr said what he did in

speaking to career prosecutors after they had made their recommendation to the judge in the roger stone case about their sentencing, he spoke to them, told them he didn't like it and they should go back and change it. he characterized that as normal. i don't know if that's normal for bill barr in his history. i don't know if it's normal for attorney generals and i don't know if it's normal for any case that doesn't involve the president of the united states. but everybody i have talked to said that's not true. it's not normal. >> yeah, i would challenge the attorney general to present some evidence that a defendant who has absolutely not cooperated, shown no remorse has somehow gotten a recommendation from the attorney general to depart from the sentencing guidelines and go well beneath him. it's simply unprecedented. i'll tell you what else is outside the norm, ali. this business of using hand picked u.s. attorneys around the country to do these secret investigations. outside of the norm. right. we see the u.s. attorney in

connecticut, john derm and now vetting intake system for rudy giuliani and now u.s. attorney st. louis is investigating mccabe and comey and pete struck. this is not normal and that's why you see former doj officials speaking out. >> frank, i appreciate it. it's an early morning for you in tucson, arizona, i appreciate you joining me because it is that important. frank former assistant director for counterintelligence of the fbi and msnbc national security analyst. coming up, how the trump administration is escalating its fight against sanctuary cities and using elite border patrol officers to do so when "velshi" continues. will the hilton app help us pick the starters? great question, no. but it can help you pick your room from the floor plan. can the hilton app help us score? you know, it's not that kind of thing, but you can score free wi-fi. can it help us win? hey, hey! we're all winners with the hilton price match guarantee, alright? man, you guys are adorable! alright, let's go lose this soccer game, come on!

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now the trump administration plans to deploy 100 border patrol officers to ten sanctuary cities nationwide to work alongside i.c.e. agents. also this week, new york governor andrew cuomo met with president trump at the white house after the administration announced plans to ban new york state from the government's global entry and trusted traveler programs. prior to this meeting trump tweeted that cuomo, quote, must understand that national security far exceeds politics. new york must stop all its unnecessary lawsuits and harassment and start cleaning itself up and lowering taxes, build relationships. joining me, kaitlyn dickerson with "the new york times" and walter shaub at the center for responsibility and ethics crew in washington, also the former director of the u.s. office of government ethics. walter, i'll get to you about that tweet and what the president said about harassment and the lawsuits in a second.

kaitlyn, i'll start with you. local officials don't want to be involved in immigration monitoring and enforcement in america. what is that reason? >> there are actually two. both non-part sin. the first is that police and sheriff's departments say when they help i.c.e. do its job, it makes everybody else less safe. it discourages undocumented people from coming forward to report crimes or from answering questions and participating in police investigations. sheriffs and police say we need their help in order to keep cities safe, so we want to keep these two things separate. another important one is sometimes asking police to participate in federal immigration enforcement can actually violate the constitution. that's especially why you hear them say we agree, i.c.e., with what you're doing, but we're not going to help you.

i.c.e. wants them to hold people after their criminal sentences have entered or after someone has been brought in for questioning and the police determine they're not who they're looking for, i.c.e. wants them to hold those people for two days until they can come and arrest them. that constitutes unreasonable seizure. >> being a sanctuary city doesn't mean you're against immigration law, doesn't mean you believe there should be laws against immigration. it says we're not involved in federal immigration enforcement because that's someone else's job and interferes with how we do our job. >> it's a political term, not a legal term. some late being called a sanctuary city because they agree with what i.c.e. is doing. >> walter, there's a separate issue and you've been tweeting about this a lot. the president said in his tweet and presumably in his conversation with governor cuomo, you have to drop your

harassment and lawsuits. there are several lawsuits brought by the attorney general, tisch james of new york state against donald trump, donald trump's family, donald trump's organizations and foundations. you equate that to bribery. >> it's very similar to what he did in ukraine. this is him using the power of his office for his own personal gain. what's really troubling about this one is the context in which it's occurring. he has shown himself to believe that he's unleashed after the senate acquitted him. he may be right. the senate has made clear they're not going to rein him in on any constitutional abuses or legal abuses. this is an individual who has gone on a retaliation tour and done a number of other things. now what he's doing with this tweet, and i think a lot of people have missed its significance, he's doing essentially what he did to ukraine but in plate sight. it may not work in this case. what it means is it's a public

declaration that he has the absolute right to abuse public office for private gain, and he puts the senators whose comments may have been somewhat ambiguous at the time they acquitted him in the position of ratifying this abuse with their silence. that's what's really dangerous about this. >> remind people that senator susan collins said the president learned a lesson. walter shaub thinks it might be the opposite. kaitlyn dickerson and walter sha shaub. presidential candidates in massachusetts senator elizabeth warren joins joy reid later this morning. "am joy" starts after this break.

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that does it for the velshi show. now time for "am joy" with joy reid. i had people talking about red-lining, a topic that you are very, very into. there's nobody who can hold their head up high and say the victims of red-lining, a racial practice, triggered the financial crisis of 2008. that was banks, greedy wall streeters, that was not black and brown people who got mortgages from banks. >> the think is, it was a racialized sort of trick to blame the victims, people who were not able to get loans even when they had the money. part of what wred lining was was saying these investments won't

go to you if you're a black or brown person even if you can afford it. >> because you live inside the lines. >> that's correct. you live in the wrong place. you're the wrong race, you can't get a loan. by the way, we'll have on elizabeth warren later in our show because she was one of the people who made the very salient point, the vig guest victims of the crash were the black and brown folks who actually managed to go ahead and do all the right things and get a loan and then were victims of a wall street that decided to try to monetize their loans and get them to take out second and third loans. i know people in florida who took out second and third loans, juiced all the money out of their homes and lost the home. that's what happened. >> i don't want to take away from your show. i want to remind viewers one thing. if you have a mortgage in america, the front page will tell you, if you pay the minimum balance, this is what it will take over the life of the mortgage. that's elizabeth warren, because she thought that's one basic thing people need to know.