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that is the show for today. "a.m. joy" will be back next saturday. i really enjoyed playing that video of president obama with those kids. >> of course you did. >> that was the uplift i need. >> and i was listening to your who won the week and what erin was saying about the kids from washington and lee having correctly predicted the incoming nominee, not from the party in power, for 112 years. you know the two they got wrong? barack obama in '08 and they got george mcgovern wrong back in '72. >> interesting. >> i found that really interesting. i was like, wow, what a record for those kids. >> that is amazing. >> so good for bernie, as she said. >> very much so.
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going to be watching nevada like a hawk. >> all right, my friend, see you soon. good day to all of you from right here at msnbc world headquarters here in new york. welcome to weekends with alex witt. the final stretch to nevada, what the candidates are saying ahead of their first test in a racially diverse state. and inside president trump's week of rage, the new worries about what could come next. also call to resign. the message today from 1100 former justice department employees to the attorney general. plus stranded on a druze ship a cruise ship, the ordeal far from over by the americans impacted by the coronavirus outbreak. but second day of early voting in nevada. a lot of voters are taking advantage of the open polls yesterday. and they will remain open until tuesday at 82 locations around the start. and those results will not be tallied until saturday when the traditional caucuses are held. the candidates focusing on the
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silver state, together they have held more than 160 events since the campaign season began last year. but with several upcoming debate, many are looking ahead to super tuesday states. today they are spreading across the country with events from california tole come coa colora the way to 345i7maine. and many are on the sunday morning talk show hes. amy klobuchar is engaging a lot of endorsements. houston chronicle threw its support behind klobuchar. and so now she has nine newspaper endorsements. she spoke with chuck todd. >> in just a little over a week, we raised over $12 million online, mostly from just regular people, new people, who gave. that is the first time in a campaign like this that you've seen a surge from people just seeing a debate. >> also on nbc, joe biden admitted his campaign needs to
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raise more money, but said that money doesn't solve all of the candidate's problems. >> $60 million can buy you a lot of advertising. but it can't erase your record. there is a lot to talk about with michael cohbloomberg. you will start focusing on him like you have on me. which i'm not complaining. you will focus on him. his position on issues relating to the african-american community from stop and frisk to the way he talked about obama. >> pete buttigieg also talked about fund raising after his opponents continue to question who he is getting money from. >> i am following the same fundraising practices that president obama did and that our leaders have in order to make sure that we draw in all of the support that we need to win. and the campaign i'm building right now is not just for earning the nomination, it is for defeating donald trump. >> and tom steyer already making campaign promises laying out the first things that he would do if he were to become president.
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>> i am promising and can easily deliver a 10% tax cut to everybody in america who makes less than $250,000. two, i'm saying that i will declare a state of emergency on climate on the first day. and that actually rebuilding this country will produce over 4.5 million good paying union jobs every year for as far as the eye can see. >> let's head out to josh letterman, he is in carson city, nevada where the sanders campaign will be holding an early vote rally a bit later on today. welcome, josh. so sanders took some time yesterday to come after a candidate that is rising in the polls. talk about the strategy behind this. >> reporter: sanders has been talking a lot about this, but he is not the only one. all of the democratic candidates at this point are training their fire on someone who has so far competed in zero contests, won zero delegates.
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that is of course fomtrmer mayo michael bloomberg whose increasing rise in the polls and more than $300 million of his own money he's already dropped in the race has elevated his profile. and the attacks on bloomberg are in two main buckets. criticism that he is spending all this money on the race at a time when democrats are focused on reducing the amount of money in politics. and then concerns about the allegations of previous comments bloomberg has made about women, about african-americans, and other minorities. and about policies to help the less advantaged. take a listen to what some of the candidates have been saying about him just in the past 24 hours. >> we will not defeat donald trump with a candidate who instead of holding the crooks on wall street accountable blame the end of racist policies such as red lining for the financial
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crisis. the simple truth is that mayor bloomberg with all his money are not create the excitement and energy to have the voter turnout we must have. >> i do not believe in a democracy that it is the biggest bank account that matters. i don't. >> the part i object to is the billionaire being able to reach in his own pocket and throw down, you know, a couple hundred million dollars in order to finance their campaign. because what that does, that just short circuits all of democracy. >> reporter: and we haven't really had a test yet for whether michael bloomberg is getting hurt by all of these attacks because he hasn't been in a race yet. the first major test for whether these attacks are striking him down will come on super tuesday when he competes in those states across the country. >> do you think that he is going to make the debate stage
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somewhat is it, he has one more poll, right, that he has to achieve a certain threshold and -- when is that going to be out? >> reporter: that is right. so he has until tuesday night to hit 10% or higher in one more national poll qualifying national poll in order to make that debate stage here in nevada on wednesday. his other rivals in the race really would like to see him on that stage because they feel like he hasn't gotten the kind of scrutiny that they have and they would like to be able to ask him some of these questions on live television. >> and i just have to ask you, have you been to cactus jacks? i'm looking at that huge figure behind you. like what is that place? looks like a diner, a coffee shop? >> reporter: yeah, we've been checking out the scene here in carson city. it is kind of early in the morning here still. not a lot of activity on the streets. but an interesting scene as we get ready for this early voting rally that bernie sanders will be holding here in a couple
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hours. >> i think my e. pe says that it looks like a casino. so i applaud the fact that you haven't been in the casino yet at this early hour, my friend. thank you for that. while some of the 2020 rivals are ratcheting up against the bloomberg attacks -- pardon me, against bloomberg has he rises in the poll, his campaign is fighting back. a senior adviser defended the former mayor's record and also talked about his character. it happened on "a.m. joy." >> mike is a flawed man. i'm a flawed man. many of us are flawed. but net/net, michael bloomberg is a purposeful, moral, decent person who is arriving in a very dangerous point in time right now to make sure that we have no more donald trumps in the oval office. >> and joining me now to discuss it, adrian and michelle. what did you think of what was
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just said there? >> i thought tim did a very effective job of laying out the fact that look, everyone has flaws. certainly michael bloomberg has apologized on multiple occasions for his stop and frisk policies. the real question is how are voters going to react. he has not had one vote cast for him yet in states that he has played in, new hampshire had a few votes for bloomberg, a few folks for michael bloomberg in iowa. but the real test is on super tuesday. and then of course if he cause ofs for the debate, we'll see, you know, if he is able to make an effective argument to the american people why he is running for president and why he is in the best position to take on trump. we've been watching him sort of hide behind his paid media, we're actually now going to see him making that case in front of millions and millions of people on television. again, assuming he makes the debate stage band by the way, we have every indication to think that he will. hitting 10 ps, he's hit it in a couple polls. i expect that we'll see a few more polls over the next few days and that we'll see him on
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wednesday night. >> he has been building momentum big time. but he has also been faced with a lot of criticism over previous comments. and last time he was in virginia, he took his stop and frisk apology tour one step further. let's take a look. >> i spent a lot of time with black leaders and community members. i've listened to their stories. i've heard their pain, their confusion, their anger. and i've learned from them and i've grown from them. as president of the united states, i will work to dismantle systems that are plagued by bias and discrimination. i will invest this communities that have born the brunt of these systems for generations and i will put this work at the top of my agenda. >> so are you, michelle, buying what the mayor is selling there? again, given what tim o'brien said that he is a purposeful and decent man, but you has he adequately demonstrated sincerity and really what more can he did about the past than
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apologize? >> i don't know how much more he can do other than to continue to apologize. but interestingly enough, i think that at least from what i am seeing in segments of the african-american community, it may not matter. remember last time when trump ran, one of the things that he said to the african-american community, and i'm focusing on the develop graphic because i truly believe that this is the blam women's vote th black women's vote that will be responsible for putting in office the next commander in chief. trump said what do you have to lose. and what i am hearing from black women is our lives. we may lose the lives of our husbands and our sons and the primary issues that people are worried about are racism, voter suppression, the constitution, the supreme court, state and federal courts all over the country. and the rollback of civil
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rights. and people believe that bloomberg -- they are liking him because he is the only person who ask get nasty enough and in donald trump's head to win. >> and why are they thinking that way though? because he has not been on a debate stage. he hasn't even gotten nasty enough really with other democratic candidates let alone this president. is it because of a tweet here or there or that he has strong advertising? what is leading them to believe this way? >> i think it is the advertising, but i think that also we saw a couple things last week that were impressive. and i'm paraphrasing hire. but for example i believe it was either a tweet or video where he talked abouthire. but for example i believe it was either a tweet or video where he talked about donald trump and he being the real billionaire and new yorkers talking about him behind his back and this feeling that donald trump is a narcissist and that bloomberg is the only person at least right now who is able to get in his head, tear him down, and really fight for -- fight with him on the same level that donald trump
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fights. i've heard a lot of talk about elizabeth warren and where she stands and women saying that i want to vote for elizabeth warren, but then you hear them saying but i think that bloomberg is the only person who can fight trump dirty the way he fights. >> and i'm looking at a headline in politico which is reflecting exactly what you said regarding elizabeth warren. and michelle, i want your response to twhat was said to m yesterday. listen. >> the reality is that he has caused a lot of damage within the black community in new york city. and he should talk about that. >> they are tired of casting their votes for people who are the lesser of two evils and everybody wants to be able to have a president that they can be proud of. and i think that he is setting himself up for a position where he won't be that position. it is not enough in this instance to say stop and frisk was a bad idea and recognize what i was doing when you had a
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lawsuit after lawsuit complaint after complaint people saying that they felt like they were caged in their communities. >> so clearly there are people who think that his apologies need some work. >> absolutely. but i think that also -- and i want to give a shout out to one of the people you just played in that clip who teaches at howard university. i hat to e to disagree with her. but one i think that i think that they are for getting is, yes, he has problems wistop and frichk frisk be problems with sexist exhibits. but the biggest question, who will beat donald trump. there no perfect candidate in the democratic party.
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and many just want donald trump to be out of office and i think that supersedes every other worry because with the rise in hate crimes against people of color is so completely out of control that all that matters is protecting your family and your civil rights and protect your right to be a full citizen of the united states which means that having the right to vote. not having your vote suppressed. and not looking -- looking up in the "washington post" or the "new york times" and seeing that donald trump is so interested in the whitening of america that he is now putting a travel ban on people from nigeria, some of the most highly educated people, immigrants, to the united states. and he has decided we didn't want them in the united states anymore. >> it is a perfect setup for this question with regard to a poll. we'll show some numbers here. if you look at the match-ups, michael bloomberg is atop all democrats as they go head to head with donald trump.
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he is tied with sanders at 51%. but bloomberg edges out trump -- sander, rather, in that he gets a point less support when trump goes against bloomberg. so we've seen a surrogates coming forward to defend him. will black voters choose to look past his record? because to michelle's point there, essentially you have to get somebody new into the white house to even begin putting through all these policies that are being proposed by any of these democratic candidates. >> well, yeah, i actually am. and michelle is right, black voef voters especially black women will determine the democratic 234078 kn nominee for president. and as biden's support decline, can bloomberg pick up enough of those voters. b can michael bloomberg get a
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larger sector of those voefrt behind him. and the number one issue is not -- for did theic party voters, it is not health care, not job, it is electability because they want to beat donald trump so much. they are taking their vote seriously and looking to somebody like michael bloomberg as biden's numbers have declined and saying that i actually think this is the guy who can take on trump the most effectively and that is one of the reasons why we've seen his numbers rise. and again, i think that he has to have a good performance on wednesday night, that will be the first real test assuming that he qualifies for the debate stage. but i think super tuesday, 40% of the delegates will be awarded after super tuesday. after the polls close on super tuesday. and michael bloomberg is very well positioned to doextremely well that evening. >> and you've worked for hillary clinton and this huge headline story that was all over the news
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yesterday that bloomberg would be considering hillary clinton as his vice president, the bloomberg campaign is saying we're focused on the primary and the debate, not vp speculation. but is it possible that these campaigns float these ideas because they want to generate some buzz and if being bloomberg's vp is what would get donald trump out of the white house, would hillary do it? will. >> i certainly don't want to speak for secretary clinton on that. but she got 66 million votes in 2016. so i would expect that every single person who has the poenlts of being t possibility of being the nominee is thinking about hillary clinton being the number two. but it is too early to speculate. and we have a long road in front of us before those decisions will be made and should be made. >> okay. >> can i just add one point, because real interesting about this, this top issuing came ic large gathering that i was with. and i was stunned again by the visceral hatred that so many people have for hillary clinton
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and while i heard a lot of people being blow bloomberg, they also said, well, if he picks hillary clinton, it must 3450e7b mean he wants to lose. so who would you want to see as vice president? and i assumed i'd hear either elizabeth warren or amy klobuchar. what i heard, kamala harris number would not, stacy abrams number two. >> okay. that is good intel. love it. thank you so much both of you. let's go now to garrett haake who is following the buttigieg campaign in las vegas for us. good morning your time. so what are do you think is the former mayor's biggest challenge as he heads into these primaries in nevada and south carolina? >> reporter: if you were to watch the last 15 minutes, you'd
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think that michael bloomberg is the run away winner. but in fact pete buttigieg has the most momentum. but if he gets squashed on media, if he gets blown out by focus on michael bloomberg who is waiting in the wings on super tuesday, it makes it more difficult to turn good performances into momentum. the other problem that is also waiting in the wings for buttigieg and his campaign is the possibility that his sexuality could become an issue with more conservative voters in southern states. you heard rush limbaugh raise this question earlier this week in what was not a good faith manner. but buttigieg pushing back very hard on it this morning. take a listen. >> i'm in a faithful, loving, committed marriage. i'm proud of my marriage. and i'm proud of my husband. and i'm not going to be lectured on family values from the likes of rush limbaugh or anybody who supports donald trump as the moral and political leader of the united states. america has moved on and we should have politics of
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ing that welcomes everybody. >> reporter: some democrats worry that republicans, the president, rush bilimbaugh floating these discussions could be a preview of the general election argument that could devolve into some real nastiness. so that is one thing that the cam page has to bepaign has to . and this candidate is trying to play ahead into the super tuesday states, but still has to introduce himself to nevada voters in a way that joe biden who has been known here for decades or bernie sanders who railroad already run for president simply don't have to do. >> sggarrett hague, thank you s much. this wednesday night is the next democratic debate live for you from las vegas. michael bloomberg so far has not made the cut, but we'll see if that changes.
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it airs at 9:00. breaking news strofing the coronavir involving the coronavirus. the u.s. is evacuating americans from the cruise ship in japan. this is just hours after even more cases were reported on board bringing the total number now to 355. and there are more than 69,000 confirmed cases across 24 countries, more than 1600 people have died. joining us now to talk about the staggering numbers from hong kong, bill neely. bill, it is extraordinary the numbers that we're talking about, but specific to these passengers, where are they and what stage of the evacuation are they in? >> reporter: the first of those hundreds of american passengers have been taken off that cruise ship. remember, they have been trapped on it for two weeks. and they are beginning their journey home. they are on buses, although they have to wait on those buses outside the cruise ship for
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hours. they have been told to take lafrs laf layers of warm clothing, bring their own food and they are about to get on a konl inadverteconverted cargo plane and begin their journey back to either a military base or some will be took another base. and there they will begin another 14 days quarantine. i've been speaking to some of the passengers. and they are not happy. one woman very upset, she says she's being treated like a yi . criminal and she is worried that they will be infected on the plane. and there is good reason for that. latest numbers of the in-effects on the ship, 70 more in the last 24 hour, 67 before that. two-thirds of the passengers. es on the ship, 70 more in the last 24 hour, 67 before that. two-thirds of the passengereffe
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on the ship, 70 more in the last 24 hour, 67 before that. two-thirds of the passengers. so that makes the ship just as contagious if not more contagious than the actual epicenter of the virus. and that is the fault not just of the japanese government but of all governments who decided that it was on good idea to keep people on that ship, keep them off the shore, and somehow to contain this. it didn't contain it as one man told me, he was in a japanese hospital, that ship acted like a petri dish, it just increased the infections. i think when this is over, there will be a big inquiry into why that happened and how that happened and how it was allowed to happen. >> and it is like a ship that was an incubator for all this. it is frightening this story that you are telling. bill neely, thank you so much though for telling it. 1100 former justice department employees are sending a no confidence message to attorney general bill barr.
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the president boarded air force one as he goes to attend the daytona 500. the president and first lady are expected to ride in the presidential limo and do a lap on the track before the race. new reaction from the white house to the justice department's decision to drop charges against andrew mccabe who is a frequent target of the president's ire. monica, little reaction until now. what is the white house saying if anything? >> reporter: we had one tweet yesterday from the president who was no of a fox news version of what had happened. but we've got a very good sense on what the administration is feeling this morning from counselor to the president kellyanne conway who was on fox and was pressed repeatedly on this with chris wallace. take a listen. >> does he think that mccabe should be prosecuted?
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>> the president recognizes as many do that there is a two tiered criminal justice system. >> does the president think that the mccabe case should be reopened? >> the president appreciates the fact that this department of justice works on any number of issues that doesn't get any kind of coverage. sanctuary cities -- this is small potatoes. >> the mccabe case is small potatoes? >> he will also be seen as a liar and leaker. the president thinks that andy mccabe should have been punished because he lied to the investigators and many people feel the same way. >> so you see there, ultimately saying that she does share the president's view that mccabe 14 should get some sort of punishme punishment. the president is heading to
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daytona and he will have some rallies this week. so i think that you can expect to hear from him this week. >> i think you are right. and joining me now, brittany ch. you heard it there, it took a few times, but kellyanne conway eventually admitted that the president wanted mccabe punished. but is the president going to be able to move on from this? >> that is the question and the moment that we're in right now is actually a test for president trump and his apparatus. bill barr has thrown down the gauntlet and said shut up, let me do what i'll do and you will most of the time be happy probably with the outcome. no wone thinks that mccaibe was not charged.
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and we think that the grand jury was sceptical of what the barr justice department was trying to did in the first place. >> so the entire case was dropped. >> the case was closed without charges. the grand jury did not indict him at all. and they won't try to push it forward anymore. and certainly donald trump would love to see andrew mccabe locked up as they say about all his adversaries. so the question is whether trump will let this go or open his mouth again. >> and so the white house was also defending the president's tweets on roger stone's sentencing anding inning that he conditi did not interfere with any criminal case. >> he will keep doing it. barr is being independent, he did come to the decision on his own. it wasn't influenced by the president. >> the president weighs in to the whole world. he didn't have a conversation with a bill barr, he had a conversation with the whole
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world. it is different to pick up the phone and ask your attorney general to do something. the president hasn't done that. >> attorney general william barr said that that kind of conversation even if it is for the entire world to eaves drop on makes it impossible to do his job. can you distinguish the president airing his thourt th via twitter or saying it directly to will jim biam barr? >> certainly barr said that it is putting pressure on his job directly. and everybody knows when the president is mad or has a score to settle that he will go to twitter and try to twist the knife. people have been fired because of trump's tweets. so even if the conversations
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1q 1que. attorney general's efforts to interfere in the trial of roger stone is sparking new outrage. more than 1100 former justice department officials have signed a statement urging him to resign. and joining me now is one of those former officials, nelson cunningham. with a welcome to you. why did you sign this letter and how significant is this? i mean, the numbers are growing
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by the hour. right now at 1143. that is a lot. >> one of the most important norms we have is that our justice department prosecutes based on the evidence and on established policy. this is what for 200 years has given the american people the comfort that we will not prosecute people for political purposes and we won't let people off the hook for political purposes. there is a strict protocol that has been around at least 40 years that governs contacts between the white house and the department of justice precisely to limit white house influence on the career prosecutors of the department of justice who bring these cases. i was hired by rudy giuliani. i served under ronald reagan, under george h.w. bush. and the first year of the
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clinton administration. we never discussed politics in the office in new york. and that is the way it should be. >> i've heard a lot of people say, including on this broadcast yesterday, that bill barr's reputation is permanently tarnished. what do you think of that? >> i served under bill barr the last time when he was attorney general as a very young man and we all thought that he acquitted himself very, very well in that job. what he was given -- when he was given the appointment 6 attorney general last year, i applauded it because of his reputation for being a fair, balanced conservative. but mainstream legal figure. he has really disappointed those who thought that he would be focused on the impartial adjudication that we expect there attorneys general. >> so he has not lived up to your expectations or the support that you gave him? >> no, he has not. but look at the newspapers today
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which are full of quotes, this 1 the "new york times" and "washington post" and others, full of quotes of current and former prosecutors. especially the current prosecutors in offices all around the country who are worried that the cases that they are working on will be influenced by the attorney general channeling the president. that is outrageous. >> look, to be specific here, you have the "washington post" which is reporting that there are concerns among officials that leadership is putting aside all of their duties to just please the president by revie reviewsing cases that he is personally or politically invested in. do you have any understanding as to why top leadership is associating themselves with this kind of focus and are you concerned that it is for retribution? >> well, retribution is certainly a worry after we saw what president trump did after his acquittal by the senate. what he immediately began punishing the career and even
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political people that he had appointed who had testified under oath in the impeachment matter. he did not wait more than 48 hours before imposing restrictions. i fear in a second trump term when he no longer worries about the voters and no longer worries about impeachment from a senate that has so many republicans, what limits will there be into the president's intervention in workting ing workings of the department of justice. a terrible process spinpeskt. >> i think many would agree. thank you so much. rewriting history, a new report on the president's effort to change the narrative of the russia investigation. ♪ we would walk on the sidewalk ♪ ♪ all around the wind blows ♪ we would only hold on to let go ♪ ♪ blow a kiss into the sun ♪ we need someone to lean on
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after a week of reported rage and retribution from president trump toward his political foes, new reporting from "the washington post" suggests this is part of a broader effort by the president to rewrite the narrative of the russia investigation, nearly a year after the probe's conclusion. joining me now, chris lu and susan delpercio. welcome to you both. let's look at "the washington post," which is reporting, as his re-election campaign intensifies, trump is using the powers of his office to settle the score. he is determined to protect his associates ensnared in the russia investigation, punish investigators he believed betrayed him and convince the probe it was an illegal witch hunt. is that what's happening here? why does the russia investigation -- it's been over for nearly a year.
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why does it weigh so heavily on his mind? >> because part of the history of donald trump's election and his win will be that the russians interfered to donald trump's benefit, and that irks him. the mueller report concluded there was nothing the president did that was -- at the time, mr. trump did that was illegal. it did say that the russians -- the conclusion is, maybe he wouldn't have won. donald trump hates that. donald trump is vindictive. of course, he is going after the people who went after him. on top of it, he believes in self-preservation. the people who he is protecting are the same ones that can hurt him. he is very careful that way. >> what he says, chris, to what end -- this piece continues on to say that last week alone, trump called the russia investigation tainted, dirty, rotten, illegal, phony, a disgrace, a shakedown, a scam, a fixed hoax and the biggest
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political crime in american history by far. we know this president has a tendency of repeating words and phrases over and over and over and over again until it sticks. do you think people are going to buy it? >> i mean, look, none of this should surprise us. after all, this is a person whose rise to political power was based on this idea that barack obama was not a u.s. citizen and he continues even after being elected to create this false narrative about hillary clinton's emails or even just last week in new hampshire, he continued to repeat this line he would have won the 2016 election if it weren't for voter fraud. the problem with his attempt to rewrite history, it's not just the mueller investigation. it's the findings of the bipartisan senate intelligence committee investigation, it's the findings of all of the intelligence community as well as all the evidence that was offered in the manafort case as well as the stone case. what's also important to understand is that when donald trump had a chance to correct the record, that was being
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interviewed by robert mueller's investigator investigators, he chose not to do so. he submitted written answers and on more than three dozen occasions said he couldn't remember anything. this is after the fact. he is not going to succeed on this. >> do you think so in terms of republicans? are they going to buy into the narrative? have they done so? >> they have. donald trump's base is his base. they are going to continue to listen to him. we know -- it happens on the left. they listen to their news silo. it's biased confirmation, if you will. i think what's important for donald trump to remember is, he will always be the third president of the united states to be impeached. history is based on facts. they are stubborn. he can say whatever he wants. it does not make it true. >> here is an apparent fact. it's written by george conway. there's no one to stop trump now. he says, having been aacquitted
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trump thinks he is bulletproof. he brags he is the king who was targeted but not taken down. chris, since this impeachment trial ended, the president has become emboldened. do you agree? are there any guardrails left in this administration? >> i'm becoming concerned. we have seen a couple of the guardrails -- we saw four prosecutors resign. we saw the defense department saying they were not going to investigate lieutenant colonel v vindman. ultimately, the check on this presidency has to be the u.s. congress or it has to be the courts. what he has been trying to do really over the last couple weeks is to really kind of delegitimize both of them. ultimately, it's going to come down to the voters to decide whether we want four more years of this. >> indeed. more of you guys very soon. thank you so much. in our next hour, what the president really thinks about
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good day, everyone, from right here at msnbc world headquarters. it's been a busy morning on the sunday talk shows with most of the 2020 candidates talking about nevada, criminal justice and cold hard cash. >> since the new hampshire debate, in just nearly over a week, raised $12 million online. >> i am following the same fund-raising practices that
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president obama did. >> $60 billion can buy you a lot of advertising. it can't erase your record. there's a lot to talk about, michael bloomberg. >> he knneeds to go on shows. he can't hide. >> i don't have billions of dollars of my own money to pour into the airwaves. what we do have is a vision. >> i am promising and can easily deliver a 10% tax cut to everybody in america who makes less than $250,000. >> there's institutional racism. how do we get at it is really my job and will be my job as president? >> i'm not going to take lectures on family values from the likes of rush limbaugh. >> ask them to make $5 and $10 contributions. >> we are less than a week away from the third contest of this presidential primary. the nevada caucuses are saturday. early voting is underway. before nevada's caucuses, nbc news and msnbc will host the
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next democratic debate. five have qualified. the others have until tuesday to make the cut. michael bloomberg, who is not on the nevada ballot, could qualify after a controversial dnc move which eliminated the grass-roots fund-raising requirement. today most of the candidates are spending time in the silver state. there are others who are pho focusing on super tuesday states. let's go first to garrett hake who is following pete buttigieg. welcome on this sunday. what are the stakes for the former mayor? how do you see it? >> reporter: the stakes for pete buttigieg are huge. he has got momentum at his back after the win in iowa. a strong second place finish in new hampshire. as the map expands, it gets more difficult for an upstart campaign, which buttigieg still is, someone with relatively low
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name recognition nationwide to play in those states at once. he needs to keep this idea of momentum and electability going. he has been making that electability argument hard, including in an interesting place, on fox news. take a listen. >> this more than anything else i think for so many voters and certainly a lot of voters that -- of color that i talk to across latino, black and aapi communities, is about making sure that we get this right. the senate demonstrated it's not going to hold this president accountable. it is up to us in 2020. it's our only shot. as we see this president as he has demonstrated interfering in criminal prosecutors, growing more and more emboldened. so much is on the line. we dare not get this wrong. that means nominating a candidate who can challenge this president on his own terms. >> reporter: layers of interesting things going on there. making this argument on fox news. part of his path is to appeal to independent voters, more
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moderate republicans, bring them into the tent. you heard him there directly appealing to minority voters, black and brown voters in places like nevada and south carolina. buttigieg has not demonstrated an ability to win over those voters who will have a louder voice. 30% of the voters in nevada are latino. 60% of the voters in south carolina in a democratic primary are african-american. buttigieg has to build a bigger tent for those voters if he is going to continue to be competitive beyond the first two early states. >> absolutely. going to be a very interesting next couple of weeks for sure on that front. thank you for that. let's go to josh lederman. josh, the senator who took aim at one specific candidate, rising in the polls, we know who it is. he is not the only one who is taking aim. right? >> reporter: he is not. pete buttigieg, amy cloeb
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klobuchar and others taking aim at mike bloomberg. bernie sanders as he campaigns here in nevada has been making a very particular critique of bloomberg, which is about electability. the notion of the bloomberg campaign is that he is the best one positioned to defeat president trump. take a listen to what he had to say last night in las vegas. >> we will not defeat donald trump with a candidate who instead of holding the crooks on wall street accountable blamed the end of racist policies such as redlining for the financial crisis. the simple truth is that mayor bloomberg, with all his money, will not create the kind of excitement and energy we need to have the voter turnout we must have to defeat donald trump. [ applause ]
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>> reporter: this rift between bernie sanders and mike bloomberg in a way is a great met faphor for the broader trajectory of the democratic primary. do you defeat donald trump by as sanders says bringing in new voters into the coalition, really enthusing the base so you have high democratic turnout? or is it picking bloomberg who might appeal to those trump voters, center right republicans, and bring them back, persuade them to come to the democratic party heading into the general election? that's something that democrats have not been able to figure out an answer to. it's one of the reasons the primaries remain muddled coming out of the first two contests in iowa and new hampshire. >> a couple strategies. we will see which direction. thank you for that. joining me now, jean cummings, she's in las vegas. i know that just a few hours from now, you will moderate a
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forum in front of an audience of union members. i will get to that in a moment. first, give us a sense of what it's like on the ground there. give me a sense of the energy, what people are saying. what do we have, six days to that caucus? >> yes. there is a lot of energy here for the candidates. they are fanned out all over the state holding rallies and holding town halls. then some of them to or forum and later to your debate. there's a lot of activity here. there's also high anxiety for the party. because they have to pull off a caucus that doesn't look anything like iowa. >> that is for sure. anecdotally, are you hearing one candidate's name more than any other? is there one you sense is getting traction? >> i do think that the culinary union's decision not to endorse and the biden campaign was
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really counting on that, their decision not only not to endorse but also to add that they oppose medical for all, that opened a wide lane for pete buttigieg. because that was a signal from the labor union, we don't like bernie's position on health care, we don't like warren's position on health care and we're abandoning biden. that opens the door to mayor pete and amy klobuchar. mayor pete showed in iowa that he can build the kind of ground game it takes to win a caucus. that was pretty surprising and pretty impressive. so he may, indeed, have the kind of machinery in place here in nevada to take advantage of that. >> let's face it, he was there on the heels of bernie sanders in new hampshire as well, cl bernie sanders last time won in a runaway over hillary clinton. in a runaway over hillary clinton.bernie sanders last time won in a runaway over hillary clinton.
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amy klobuchar has been getting endorsements. what do you think it signals? >> what it shows is that if you look at editorial pages, they are on the side of the democratic debate, internal debate, pick someone electable. we don't need a revolution. they are siding with the people in the party who say what we gotta do is vote with our heads, not our hearts. pick someone who can build the coalition necessary to hang on to the states pennsylvania, wisconsin, michigan. states that were close, new hampshire, minnesota. in other words, who can create the electoral map in order to defeat donald trump? that's where the editorial pages are coming down. it doesn't hurt that amy klobuchar is a former newspaper person. she's a creature of our industry. she knows how to talk our talk. >> okay. that makes sense.
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may i ask for a preview of what you can expect from this forum you are hosting, some of the top issues that concern your audience? >> yes. we will have about 20 or 25 minutes with each of the candidates. we really want to focus in on jobs and infrastructure asking about the highway trust fund, how will you put more money into it, how do you balance green jobs versus fixing our old infrastructure, because many of them have plans that almost contradict one another. if you are going to electric vehicles, then the fuel fund will not get reimbursed because no one will be buying gas. but you will maintain, you need the roads if you go to e-cars. there's a lot of tension between their own agenda and their own set of priorities. >> i'm sure it's going to be a fascinating forum.
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best of luck with it. thank you for taking time to talk with us. this wednesday night, nbc news and msnbc will host the next debate live from los angeles. michael bloomberg has yet to make the cut. that's 9:00 p.m. eastern. let's go to the top headlines. inside trump's week of rage and retribution and fearful of trump's attacks, they worry barr will leave them exposed. joining me more is monica alba and abigail tracy. a welcome to both of you. monica, we will begin with you and get reaction from the white house after critics accused the president of interfering in these criminal cases at the doj. what's being said on that? >> sure. it was certainly a turbulent week with a lot of developments coming out of the department of justice. those remarks from the attorney
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general imploring the president not to intervene, not to tweet as much specifically about these cases. we saw the president basically defy that request just hours later, saying, while he does reserve the right to intervene in certain cases, he said he has not done so. take a listen to what a couple of the top white house officials said when discussing exactly how involved he should be in some of these cases. let's roll that. >> the president is making the point and the attorney general bill barr is backing him up that he has not interfered. >> barr is being independent. he did come into this decision on his own. it was not something he was influenced by the president. >> very different to pick up the phone and ask your attorney general to do something in a criminal case. the president hasn't done that. >> it's one of the things the american people love is they can communicate with him. he will keep doing it. >> with these recent developments in the andrew mccabe case and the roger stone case, we are talking about also former national security adviser michael flynn, all of these
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potential sentencing dates coming up this week, it will be seen whether the president weighs in and how much more he is going to be tweeting and talking about it. we know he hasn't been shy about telling the attorney general how he feels and voicing those opinions. i think we can expect more of that in the coming days. even though the white house is hoping that that relationship continues to be strong. >> absolutely. into the conversation, abigail. what is your reaction to the white house's defense? >> i think it's pretty predictable. i think this is what we saw. donald trump has been launching these attacks at doj for a long time. he has spoken about mccabe and comey who he views as his enemy. i think it's predictable. i think they are right to say his behavior isn't going to change. i don't think anybody expects him to change his behavior. one of the interesting things is watching how bill barr is lan e
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and -- how he is handling this. this figure who had come back to the justice department and reasserted his authority and its independence from the president who is viewed as political. we see him failing at that. there's been a lot of criticism of attorney general barr throughout this. obviously, his interview with abc last week was intended to sort of try to counteract or fight back against that. it's interesting to see how he moves forward now. >> when you look at kellyanne conway, who we heard from earlier, being pressed about the president's reaction to the doj dropping charges against andrew mccabe, she eventually admitted the president thinks he should have been punished. will the president be able to move past this? >> i don't think this president has shown much ability to sort of put many things behind him. i do think this is going to be
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something that comes up. i think especially as his campaign gains speed and things get closer to the election. this is part of his script. this is his pitch to voters. there are these individuals that are working against him. the deep state, as he says -- as he calls it. i think you are going to see him talk about mccabe. you will continue to see him talk about james comey. you will continue to see him talk about hillary clinton. that is sort of -- that's the playbook that got him elected. i don't expect to see that change any time soon. >> conway also went after bloomberg after the report detailed all the allegations of the inappropriate comments toward women and discrimination within his media company. let's listen to what she had to say. >> the comments he made about women, the lawsuits, that's all fair game. it's fair game because we want to know the person behind the half a billion dollars of ads. >> is this worse than the "access hollywood" tapes? >> it's far worse. that was litigated. he won a month later.
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>> in case you didn't hear the question, conway was asked if the allegations against bloomberg were worse than trump's "access hollywood" tape. what is your reaction to her response? >> i think this whole -- i think it's ridiculous, is what i do think about her response to that. i do think when you are talking about president trump who has faced allegations of a similar nature, many allegations from dozens of women, i do not understand why this is your line of attack against mayor bloomberg? if i were them, i would avoid it. this administration has never sort of shown that discretion when it comes to being hypocritical in terms of their attacks against other individuals. >> if you figure out why they're doing it, come back and let me know. i'm with you. >> i will give you an update. >> let's go to breaking news involving the coronavirus. nearly 400 americans are on their way home after being quarantined.
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planes landed in japan to fly those passengers back home to the u.s. confirmed cases of the virus on board the ship surged overnight. tonight, the number of infected passengers stands at 355. when those passengers land on american soil, they will undergo a 14-day quarantine. joining us from the air force base in california, scott cohen. a welcome to you. we know that these passengers from the diamond princess, they are heading back to the u.s. what do you know about their release? give me a time frame, if you have it. >> reporter: sure. this is fluid. we understand the latest word is that the first flight from japan has not taken off yet. it will relatively soon. this is one of the sites, travis air force base, where they will go for the 14-day quarantine. the other is in texas. doing the math, it's a nine-hour
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fligh flight. we will likely see the first here by early this evening, if that first flight is headed here. as you said, they will then go through a 14-day quarantine period here. there was confusion about that initially, because the passengers were wondering if they had gone through 14 days or close to it of quarantine in japan, why come here and then be quarantined again? the authorities told them, look, if you don't take these charter flights home, you are still not going to get out of japan before march 4th, because we're not going to let you out before this other 14 days because the diamond princess has become such a hot spot for the virus. about 355 people, believed to be affected -- transport fly over us right now. about 355 believed to be infected. about 40 are americans. they will stay behind for treatment there. then the passengers that are flying here for quarantine will
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be mron toonitored. a rapidly unfolding situation. here at travis, there are 233 people who are getting through their quarantine. they got here in early february and will start to be released beginning tuesday and thursday. the new people will go into a different set of accommodations. it's quite the logistics act along with everything else. >> yeah. it's very tough on all those passengers for sure as they head back to travis air force base where you are. thank you very much. my next guest said three months ago she endorsed joe biden because he was in the best position to beat president trump. now what does she think? we will find out. i'm your 70lb st. bernard puppy,
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but i haven't spent the time. it's starting to happen now. i haven't spent the time going out doing the fund-raisers and moving the way i have. >> joe biden says that fund-raising is the reason he didn't do well with middle class voters in iowa and new hampshire, less than a week out from the next contest nevada that happens saturday. joining me is dena titus who supposed joe biden. welcome. good to see you. do you think fund-raising is what's the problem for joe biden right now? or do you think it's possible that bernie sanders and pete buttigieg, were more appealing to the voters in those two states? >> fund-raising may be part of it. remember, he got into the race much later than some of the others. i think it was a matter of the demographics, new hampshire and iowa, that worked against him. he put together a broad coalition. 99% of blacks and hispanics have
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not had a chance to vote yet. nevada is very diverse. my district is very diverse. i think he will do well here, go strong in south carolina and be positioned to take super tuesday. >> i'm going to get to the details of what's happening there. you said joe biden got into the race later than the others. true. i mean, his name recognition, shouldn't that carry him? isn't that why he was able to enter the race later? >> he is going to have to up his numbers for fund-raising, no question about it. he has got the resources he needs. he has six offices here in nevada. 130 people on the ground. he is all over the state now. it's not an issue for this upcoming caucus. >> let's take a look at the latest polls. it shows joe biden is in second place with the nevada voters. he is behind bernie sanders. in florida, it's michael bloomberg with the lead, biden in second place. as for a hypothetical general election matchup, you have both
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bloomberg and sanders coming out ahead. they beat the president with 51%. if you look at joe biden, he has 50%. he is right there. what do you make of the numbers? >> well, bloomberg is like the new shiny object. he has spent so much money on television. they are all positive, great madison avenue ads. you have never seen him on a debate stage. you have never seen him run as a democrat. he hasn't been a democrat before. you will see those numbers shift. >> what about the culinary workers union? it did not endorse a presidential candidate. the leaders have said, joe biden is their friend but they did not endorse him this week. does that worry the campaign? wasn't he expecting that endorsement? was it a shock to not get that recognition? >> no. we knew that culinary might not endorse him. if they did, it would be late. it wasn't shocking. the fact is, they came out
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strong against medicare for all, which is bernie sanders and elizabeth warren. in their statement, they praised joe biden and said he had been a friend. i was with him back at the house at one hotel on the strip. a lot of people just swarmed him. they like him. they know his record with working people, with supporting labor unions. i think he will do well with their membership. it's a very diverse membership. >> i don't know if you heard my segment with jean cummings this last block of the show here. she said the fact that the culinary workers union did not support or endorse, rather, joe biden, that that's essentially a nod to both pete buttigieg and amy klobuchar. >> i don't think that's true. neither one of them is very well-known here in nevada. they don't talk about issues that affect us directly, western issues. you talk about water, you talk about public lands, renewable energy. i don't tli they have the ground game here that joe biden has.
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they are in the stream that you call it or the lane of being more moderate. but i don't think they will take away his main support. >> my takeaway from listening to you is that you think joe biden is the best candidate to beat donald trump. is that true? >> that is true. i think he is best positioned to put together a broad coalition. he can take on trump. he is persistent. he has been attacked by trump for the last year since he got in the race. they keep coming after him because they know he is the strongest candidate. he is ready to hit the ground running on day one. he will make the best president because he didn't need any job training. i am still riding with biden. >> there you go. thank you so much. it's good to see you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you. sinking in the swamp. the new book shows why the white house provides an endless supply of stories about the president. with hepatitis c... ...i felt i couldn't be at my... ...best for my family. in only 8 weeks with mavyret... ...i was cured.
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a new book gives the white house the tabloid treatment. the title is "sinking in the swamp." you could call it a bipartisan product as the authors joining me now, both white house reporters for the daily beast. lo locklin worked for the washington free beacon. any trouble putting this book together because of different perspectives? >> no. we worked very well together. the varying ideological characters of our previous employment really complemented each other well, made sure there was nothing missing. he would brought a diversity of sources to the table. we have been covering the white house together for three years. despite our occasional ideological disagreements, we have fun working together. we had fun on this book. >> right. even though i'm sort of a leftist on this, i personally am for a lot of diversity in
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national political media. that he not just racial and ethnic. that's ideological and economic diversity. >> okay. well done. let's get to some of the details of the book. you wrote quite a bit about trump's position on birtherism. how do you explain the way donald trump, the candidate, and then president donald trump took on this issue? if not created it or certainly mushroomed it. went out with a wimper acknowledging obama was born in the united states. >> it's the original sin of modern trumpism. trump is a modern mrpolitical force. the degree to which he was able to overcome it during the campaign, move past it, really was an early illustration in retrospect of president trump as teflon don. something that would have taken down virtually any other presidential candidate he was able to move past. there's a loreful anecdote in
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the book about him trying to move past it.cloreful anecdote the book about him trying to move past it.oloreful anecdote the book about him trying to move past it.ful anecdote in the book about him trying to move past it. there there was was a rambli rambling -- he wants to make this a statement on his position. it didn't make any sense. you have hope hicks, she was the first person to say so. everyone else sat in stunned silence. now hope is coming back to the white house. how effective do you think she can or will be? >> she certainly is someone who the president -- not just the president himself, but top members of his inner sanctum, including jared kushner and ie e ivanka trump, hold in high regard. the president views her almost like family. she's going to be successful at
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containing some of the excesses of trumpism and donald trump himself as much as any other senior official, which is to say not very much. that's just par for the course with this stuff. >> here is a question for you. who is gabe? i'm familiar with having a great teleprompter operator, thank you very much. explain gabe and donald trump's dependency on him. he is well-known for going off script. >> if you watched a rally or speech, you know he tends to go on these meandering tangents to at some point, nobody knows when, return to his prepared remarks. as you can imagine, that's a difficult person to operate a teleprompter for. we reported on a gentleman by the name of gabe perez, who has been doing it for the president since the campaign, since late 2015. there's nobody who has operated trump's teleprompter who does a better job at it and who the president -- whose efforts the president appreciates more. gabe, he can read the
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president's mind whether it comes to keeping him on script, rewinding a little bit, making sure the president gets back on his train of thought. nobody has been able to do it like gabe. the president's developed an affinity for him, as have people around him. this unofficial protection racket around him. >> gabe is clearly a talented guy. i want to ask you about the president. apparently he was a big snl fan. not so much anymore. it's not just because he dislikes being made to look like a fool by alec baldwin. he was mad about the way steve bannon was portrayed as the grim reaper. that's how you identified him. what do you mean by this? what was the issue? >> early on in the trump era, there was an snl sketch where alec baldwin was playing donald trump and steve bannon, trump's white house chief strategist, comes in, but he is dressed as a grim reaper figure.
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it satirizes the influence on trump and the white house by saying, trump is the toddler who is not president and really bannon is president. this, of course, followed with the general media meme of president bannon as opposed to president donald trump. trump saw this and started telling confidants about how much it ticked him off. it did at least in part contribute to his souring on steve bannon, which soon in the first year of the trump era led to his ouster from the west wing. this is sort of an overarching theme is about how satire has super planted reality in the trump era. so often it doesn't read necessarily like a news article but as really lpoorly written satire. that's where we are at. that's how so much of the trump era feels like and how it comes about when it's reported on accurately.
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that's what we saw with how snl had a concrete affect on donald trump's decision making on this, in this case, whether or not to be nice or not to his chief strategist. >> thus the name, i think perfectly titled, "sinking in the swamp." it's a fun book to read. best of luck. >> thank you. michael bloomberg faces criticism for stop and frisk. how each of the democratic front-runners may have a weak point whether it con it comes t voters. ♪ ♪
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othroughout the country for the past twelve years, ♪ mr. michael bloomberg is here. vo: leadership in action. mayor bloomberg and president obama worked together in the fight for gun safety laws, to improve education, and to develop innovative ways to help teens gain the skills needed to find good jobs. obama: at a time when washington is divided in
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back now with more on the 2020 campaign. the focus on mike bloomberg's history with african-american communities. look at this other candidates forced to confront positions they have taken on issues affecting african-americans. joe biden and the 1994 crime bill. bernie sanders, pete buttigieg with racial disparity issues in south bend, amy klobuchar declining to charge police officers. and elizabeth warren. britney, give me your assessment. let's go to the bloomberg debate. what do you think? >> i think you started off this segment the perfect way, to recognize that when it comes to black voters, there are lots of candidates that have a lot to answer for and a lot to explain. when it comes to bloomberg, i'm curious about his pattern.
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patterns tell us what we can predict someone will do in the future. when i look at mike bloomberg's pattern, it's not promising. he wasn't loyal to the women employees that he had. there has been new information emerging about the kind of hostile environment created for the women that worked with and for him. we know he definitely was not loyal to black and brown new yorkers as he not only inherited stop and frisk, but he expanded it. in 2011, there were stop and frisk incidents against black and brown constituents than there were black and brown young men in new york city. most certainly, his loyalty doesn't lie there. michael bloomberg isn't loyal to a party or set of values. he was a democrat. ran for mayor as a republican. became an independent. wheth when it was time to run for president, became a democrat. mike bloomberg's only pattern is
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being loyal to mike bloomberg. voters who come from marginalized and oppressed identities, they don't have reason to believe any of that will change if he enters the white house. >> give me an answer to this. it's a landscape that's complicated with the history of race relations. how should democratic voters choose? who do you think they should choose? do you have someone in mind? >> you know, i think this is a time when we have to be thoughtful about the long game. i remain open. i went to church this morning. my pastor reminded me it was a few days ago that we honored the anniversary of nelson mandela's release from prison. after that long prison sentence, many scholars and historians actually deeped that d edeemed beginning of the end of apartheid. as i look at the moment our country is in, i believe we're at a similar moment. we have to be not just concerned about winning, but how we got
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ea -- there's so much damage to undo. certainly, we have to beat trump. we have to make sure we have someone who is in there that actually governs in a way that reflects our values. we can talk about winning all day long. at the end of the day, the only thing that's supposed to separate democrats from the party of trump is values, inclusion, equity, freedom, those things should be reflected in the candidate that's nominated. if they are not it could depress turnout and the win won't come. more than that, we have to recognize that we need someone who is not just focused on beating trump. as mike bloomberg has said he is. who really has a vision for america that includes all people, especially all marginalized people. i think it's a shame that we have been seeing people who have got that vision who are at least oriented toward a vision like that be put on the back burner. joe biden, people like elizabeth warren. it's shameful we haven't been talking about how she's been addressing a lot of forgotten about voters because we have seen new hampshire and iowa
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vote. >> at the end of the day, are you hopeful that when it comes down to racial inequality, voters will compare each candidate's record just with that of president trump? >> i think that that is an understandable and fair comparison. i understand why it feels very difficult to be in a moment of change. it feels like all we can do is stabilize right now. it feels like we're telling marginalized people to wait. wait until we can get back control of the senate. wait until we can reclaim control of the white house. wait until we can get trump out. merely stabilize with whomever that is. dr. king reminds us in a letter that wait for marginalized people almost always means never. at some point, we are going to have to wreck on with the bill of goods we continue to sell people of color and oppressed people in this country to continue to choose between not very good and even worse. i do believe that it certainly feels risky to confront our
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reality and orient ourselves toward big structural change. i get it feels like we can't actually afford to right now. but in my opinion, we can't afford anything less than looking these dangerous systems in their face and making sure that we're taking them on with courage. >> awful good to talk with you. i look forward to seeing you again. holding back, why a major nevada union decided not to support any of the democratic candidates this year. adventure. to reconnect and be together. and once we did that, we realized his greatest adventure is just beginning. (vo) welcome to the most adventurous outback ever. the all-new subaru outback. go where love takes you.
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misogynistic things they said, threats thet put out. >> calling on bernie sanders to -- claims that it was the victims of attacks by bernie sanders because of the medicare for all stance. in the end nevada's powerful labor union decided not to endorse any democratic candidate. it is a taste of how messy this is likely to get in 2020. joining me now, the secretary treasurer of the culinary union in nevada. thanks nfor joining us. 2008 it endorsed barack obama. 2016 they refused to endorse either. why not this year? was there not a candidate with enough wide appeal? >> this time with the members, we work with all the members we
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represent and have town halls. i invite seven presidential candidates, have surveys, do they know -- let them know us, what is the issues they concerned. we did a poll. we work very, very, very close with the rank and file leaders and members. and we come out with the decision, official decision, to -- we putting on a score card to inside the hotel, with every issue, the members, they very concerned in what the presidential candidate, what they stand for. and that's what we come out with, the decision, officially to say, you know, we not endorse. we focus on protect every issue. >> basically nobody got a majority or an overwhelming majority among those union workers. but let's look at basically who you guys are. the nevada culinary workers union, you represent 60,000
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workers in las vegas and reno, at the hotels and ka sinnos. but you have your own health plan, which provides coverage for over 130,000 nevadans. so medicare for all, is that the nonstarter? is a candidate like sanders or warren gets the nomination, can you get behind them? >> what we did, you know, really we want every person have health care. but we want to have a choice. a choice if you want to keep your health care, you keep your health care. if you want to give health care to the person, they no have health care, you could have the government program have to give it to the people, they don't have health care. but removing health care we been fighting for for 30 years, i was in the union for 30 years and the lead organizer, 6 year, 4 months, 10 days strike, and we
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have a strike for 9 months and a half, it's not being a gift and giving up their own health care right now, that's not going to working for the workers we represent. >> it's clear that you guys worked hard to get what you have and you don't want to lose it. thank you very much. appreciate your time with us here on msnbc. coming up everyone, the enthuse a. problem dogging a 2020 democrat and why it could be so costly. because there are options. like an "unjection™". xeljanz xr, a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough. xeljanz xr can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infections like tb; don't start xeljanz if you have an infection. taking a higher than recommended dose of xeljanz for ra can increase risk of death. serious, sometimes fatal infections, cancers including lymphoma, and blood clots have happened. as have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, and changes in lab results.
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here with my colleague, he's going to pick up the coverage. take it so i can stay with this. ended it on time. thanks a lot. hello to all of you. i'm richard lieui. thanks for spending your sunday with us. day two of early voting in nevada, a test of the minority vote begins here as well as in south carolina. not to be forgotten, president trump puts on his campaigner in chief hat this hour, arriving in florida a short time ago as he kicks off the daytona fi5,500. while the test is being felt by all candidates. that's for sure. that scrutiny now focused on michael bloomberg, and he's trying to respond. while hundreds of americans begin the long journey home after being quarantined on a che cruise ship. but health officials warn there's another virus that requires some
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