policy which had been in place, the policy that all big police departments used of stop and frisk. what happened, however, was it got out of control. and when we discovered, i discovered that we were doing many, many, too many stop and frisks, we cut 95% of it out. and i sat down with a bunch of african-american clergy and businesspeople to talk about this, to try to learn. i've talked to a number of kids let us create the political who had been stopped. revolution this country needs. >> the stakes could not be higher. and i'm trying to -- was trying we cannot afford to miss the to understand how we change our mark or to miss this moment. policies so we can keep the city safe. >> i will bring this country together instead of tearing it because the crime rate did go apart. from 650, 50% down, to 300. >> i can't do it alone. and we have to keep the lid on i need your help to climb that mountain. crime, but we cannot go out and together we're going to beat donald trump. stop people -- >> all right, mayor. >> -- indiscriminately -- >> thank you. >> 2020 is our time to change who makes the rules. let me go to vice president >> i am running to restore honor biden on this. do you want to respond to that? to our government and build a >> yes. let's get something straight. country that we can be proud of. the reason stop and frisk

changed is because barack obama sent moderators to see what was going on. ♪ when we sent them there to say, >> announcer: from nbc news, the this practice has to stop, the mayor thought it was a terrible democratic presidential debate idea we send them there. live from las vegas, nevada. a terrible idea. let's get the facts straight. ♪ let's get the order straight. and it's not whether he apologized or not, it's the policy. ♪ the policy was abhorrent. good evening, everyone. and it was in fact a violation i'm lester holt. of every right people have. welcome to las vegas. everything is on the line and we are the one, my -- our tonight with just three days before the critical nevada caucuses. administration sent in people to monitor it. here with me on the stage, nbc and at the very time the mayor argued against that. this idea that he figured out it news political director and was a bad idea, figured out it moderator of "meet the press," was a bad idea after we sent in chuck todd. nbc news chief white house monitors and said it must stop. correspondent hallie jackson. also joining us is telemundo even then he continued the policy. senior correspondent vanessa hauc. >> all right, mayor, would you like to make a quick response? and editor of the nevada >> yes, i would. independent jon ralston. who has covered nevada politics for more than three decades. i've sat, i've apologized, i've the rules are this tonight. candidates will get a minute 15 to answer each question and 45 asked for forgiveness. but the bottom line that is we seconds for follow-ups. stopped too many people, but the now that the stage is narrowed policy -- we stopped too many

to six candidates, we encourage people and we've got to make sure that we do something about each of you to directly engage criminal justice in this with each other on the issues. country. there is no great answer to a lot of these problems. so let's get to our first if we took off everybody that question. since the last time you all shared the stage, senator sanders, a self-described was wrong off this panel, democratic socialist, has surged into the lead nationally in the democratic race. everybody that was wrong on criminal justice at some time in their careers, there would be there's a new person on the nobody else up here. >> senator warren? stage tonight mayor michael >> so i -- >> i'm sorry, who did you call bloomberg, a former republican on? >> senator warren. >> sorry. who spent millions of his own dollars to run in this race. >> i do think this really is about leadership and accountability. what hasn't changed, a majority of democratic voters still say when the mayor says that he apologized, listen very closely their top priority is beating to the apology. president trump. the language he used is about stop and frisk. it's about how it turned out. senator sanders, the first question to you. now this isn't about how it turned out, this is about what mayor bloomberg is pitching himself as a centrist who says it was designed to do to begin with. he's best positioned to win in november. why is your revolution a better bet? >> in order to beat donald trump it targeted communities of color. we're going to need the largest voter turnout in the history of the united states. it targeted black and brown men from the beginning. mr. bloomberg had policies in and if you want to issue a real new york city of stop and frisk, apology, then the apology has to which went after african-american and latino start with the intent of the people in an outrageous way.

that is not a way you're going plan as it was put together and to grow voter turnout. the willful ignorance day by day what our movement is about the by day of admitting what was bringing working class people happening even as people together, black and white and latino, native american, asian protested in your own street, american, around an agenda that works for all of us and not just shutting out the sounds of people telling you how your own policy was breaking their lives. the billionaire class. you need a different apology here, mr. mayor. and that agenda says that maybe, >> can i respond quickly? just maybe, we should join the rest of the industrialized >> let me get senator klobuchar. we're staying on this topic, but all people as a human right, i want to get to something in here with senator klobuchar. raha the guts to take on the when you were the top prosecutor in minneapolis, there were at least two dozen instances when police were involved in the deaths of civilians. none of those officers were fossil fuel industry, because prosecuted. you did prosecute a teenager to prison. their short-term profits are not more important than the future despite what are serious doubts of this planet and the need to in the evidence. combat climate change. the minneapolis chapter of naacp those are some of the reasons we has called for you to suspend your campaign over that case because new evidence has come have the strongest campaign to defeat donald trump. out since. big picture, why should black and latino voters trust your >> mayor bloomberg, can senator judgment now if it appears you sanders beat president trump and may have gotten it wrong then? how do you want to respond to what else he said? >> i don't think there's any >> first i'll start with that case.

chance of the senator beating president trump. it is very clear that any evidence, if there is new you don't start out by saying i've got 160 million people i'm evidence, even old evidence, it going to take away the insurance should be reviewed by that plan that they love. office and by the county attorney. that must happen. that's just not a ways that you go and start building the i have called for that review. coalition that the sanders camp this was a case involving an 11-year-old african-american thinks that they can do. girl named taisha edwards who i don't think there's any chance was shot doing her homework at her kitchen table. whatsoever. and if he goes and is the candidate, we will have donald three people were convicted. trump for another four years, one of the cases is the one that and we can't stand that. is being investigated, was investigated by a journalist. >> senator warren? >> so, i'd like to talk about i think it's very important that that evidence come forward. who we're running against. a billionaire who calls women in terms of the police shootings fat broads and horse-faced lesbians. that you noted, those went to a grand jury. and, no, i'm not talking about every single one of them. donald trump, i'm talking about mayor bloomberg. and i've made very clear for democrats are not going to win if we have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax months now that like so many prosecutors, i think those cases in my time, they were all going to the grand jury. it was thought that was the best returns, of harassing women and way to handle them in many, many jurisdictions -- of supporting racist policies >> you didn't speak up at the

like redlining and stop and frisk. time. should you? i'll support whoever the >> i actually did speak up on democratic nominee is. something very similar, and that was when our police chief in but understand this, democrats minneapolis tried to take the take a huge risk if we just investigations of police substitute one arrogant shootings into his own hands. billionaire for another. and i strongly said i disagreed with that. now i do believe also that a this country has worked for the prosecutor should make those rich for a long time and left decisions herself. everyone else in the dirt. and the last thing i will say, because you asked the question, it is time to have a president about voting. who will be on the side of i have the support of working families and be willing african-americans in my to get out there and fight for community in every election. them. that is why i am in this race i had strong support and strong support of leadership. and that is how i will beat donald trump. and that's because i earned it. and this is going to be on me to earn it. >> senator klobuchar, what do you earn it with what you stand for when it comes to equal you think the path is from this opportunity. stage to the white house? you earn it with the work that i what works? have done, the leadership i've shown on voting rights. >> i think the path is a high voter turnout. i'm the one on this stage who and, yes, you earn it with the had the highest voter turnout of work that must be done on any state in the country when i led the ticket, as well as bringing in rural and suburban criminal justice reform. voters. >> let's talk about transparency here. because many democrats, including most of you on stage, for his lack of transparency. but senator sanders, when you were here in las vegas in october, you were hospitalized with a heart attack. and i've done that as well. and i'm the only one with the afterwards you pledged to make

receipts to have done that in republican congressional districts over and over again. but i want to say this. i actually welcomed mayor quote all your medical records public. bloomberg to the stage. you've released three letters i thought that he shouldn't be from your doctors, but you now hiding behind his tv ads. say you won't release anything more. and so i was all ready for this what happened to your promise of big day. full transparency? and then i looked at the memo >> i think we did. from his campaign staff this let me tell you what happened. morning. and it said that he actually first of all, you're right, and thank you, las vegas, for the thought the three of us should get out of the way. excellent medical care i got in that is what his campaign said, because we should pave the way the hospital, two days. for him to become the nominee. and i think the one area maybe that mayor bloomberg and i shared, you have two stents as well. you know, i have been told as a >> 25 years ago. woman, as someone that maybe no >> well, we both have two one thought was still going to be standing up on this stage, stents, it's a procedure that is but i am because of pure grit done about a million times a year. and because of the people out there. so we released the full report i've been told many times to of that heart attack. wait my turn and to step aside. second of all, we released the and i'm not going to do that full -- my whole 29 years in the now, and i'm not going to do that because a campaign memo capitol, the attending physician, all of my history, medical history. from mayor bloomberg said this morning that the only way that and furthermore, we released we get a nominee is if we step reports from two leading vermont aside for him. i think we need something cardiologists who described my situation. different than donald trump. i don't think you look at donald and by the way, who said bernie trump and say, we need someone sanders is more than able to richer in the white house. >> thank you. mayor bloomberg, there's a lot deal with the stress and the for you to respond to there, so here's your opportunity. vigor of being president of the

united states. >> i think we have two questions to face tonight. one is, who can bet donald hey, follow me around the trump? number two, who can do the job campaign, three, four, five if they get into the white events a day, see how you're house? doing compared to me. i would argue that i am the >> mayor buttigieg, you've been critical about transparency on candidate that can do exactly this stage. both of those things. i'm a new yorker. and people needing to do better. i know how to take on an is that response from senator sanders enough for you? >> no, it's not. arrogant con man like donald first of all, let me say we're trump that comes from new york. all delighted that you are in fighting shape. >> thank you. i'm a mayor. >> at the same time, was a mayor. transparency matters. especially living through the i know how to run a complicated trump era. city, the biggest, most diverse city in this country. now, under president obama the i'm a manager. standard was that the president would release full medical records. i knew what to do after 9/11 and do a physical and release the readout. brought the city back stronger than ever. i think that's the standard that and i'm a philanthropist who we should hold ourselves to as well. didn't inherit his money, but made his money. now president trump lowered that standard. and i'm spending that money to he said just a letter from a doctor is enough. a lot of folks on this stage are get rid of donald trump, the now saying that's enough. worst president we have ever had. but i am certainly prepared to and if i can get that done, it will be a great contribution to get a physical, put out the results. america and to my kids. i think everybody here should be willing to do the same. but i'm actually less concerned >> vice president biden, i'll about the lack of transparency

let you weigh in now. on sanders' personal health than i am about the lack of >> in terms of who can beat transparency on how to pay for his health care plan. donald trump, nbc did a poll since he said that it's impossible to even know how much yesterday, says joe biden is it's going to cost. best equipped to beat donald trump. that's what your poll said. and it said that i can beat him in those toss-up states, those and even after raising taxes on everybody making $29,000, there states we have to win. is still a multi-trillion dollar i'm ahead by 8 points across the board. hole. in terms of being able to beat matter of fact, if you add up donald trump, i'm better positioned according to your his policies altogether, they come to $50 trillion. poll than anybody else to beat donald trump, number one. he's only explained $25 trillion worth of revenue. number two, the mayor makes an interesting point. the mayor says that he has a great record, that he's done these wonderful things. which means the hole in there is bigger than the size of the entire economy of the united states. well, the fact of the matter is the time has come to level with the american people on matters he has not managed his city very, very well when he was personal and on matters of policy. there. >> thank you. he didn't get a whole lot done. senator sanders, quickly. >> let's level, pete. he had stop and frisk, throwing under your plan, which is a close to 5 million young black maintenance continuation of the men up against the wall. when we came along in our status quo -- can i finish? the average american today is administration, president obama, said we're going to send in a paying $12,000 a year. that's what that family is paying. 20% of a $60,000 income, $12,000 moderator, a mediator to stop it, he said, that's unnecessary. a year. so we're going to get a chance highest prices in the world for to talk about the mayor's record. but in terms of who is best prescription drugs. prepared to beat donald trump,

just the other day a major study look at your poll and what it says. >> mayor buttigieg, you'd like came out from yale to weigh in. epidemiologists in "lancet," one >> yes. we've got to wake up as a party. of the leading medical publications in the world. what they said, my friends, is we could wake up two weeks from today, the day after super medicare for all will save $450 billion a year. tuesday, and the only candidates left standing will be bernie because we are eliminating the sanders and mike bloomberg, the two most polarizing figures on absurdity of thousands of this stage. separate plans that require hundreds of billions of dollars and most americans don't see where they fit if they've got to choose between a socialist who of administration, and by the thinks that capitalism is the root of all evil, and a way, ending the $100 billion in billionaire who thinks that profiteering from the drug money ought to be the root of all power. companies and the insurance let's put forward somebody who companies. >> this is really important -- >> mayor bloomberg, i want to go actually lives and works in a on to you on this. >> that's false. middle-class neighborhood in an industrial midwestern city. let's put forward somebody who's if my plan is the status quo, actually a democrat. why was it attacked by the insurance industry the moment it look -- came out? and on issue after issue after issue, this is what senator sanders is saying. if you're not with him, if you're not all the way on his side, then you must be for the status quo. [ cheers ] [ laughter ] well, you know what? that is a picture that leaves most of the american people out. >> we shouldn't have to choose between one candidate who wants to burn this party down and >> i want to go to mayor bloomberg on the transparency

issue. anthony very briefly on transparency, you campaign has said that you would eventually release your tax records. another candidate who wants to >> yes. buy this party out. >> when it comes to transparency. people are already voting now. we can do better. why should democratic voters have to wait? >> senator sanders, are you polarizing? >> it just takes us a long time. >> if speaking to the needs and unfortunately or fortunately -- the pain of a long-neglected working class is polarizing, i >> may i comment on that? think you've got the wrong word. >> fortunately i make a lot of money and we do business all around the world and we are what we are trying finally to do preparing it. the number of pages will is to give a voice to people who probably be in the thousands of pages. after 45 years of work are not i can't go to turbo tax. making a nickel more than they i put up my tax return every did 45 years ago. year for 12 years in city hall. we will put out this one. we are giving a voice to people it tells everybody everything who are saying we are sick and they need to know about every tired of billionaires like mr. bloomberg seeing huge expansions investment that i make and where the money goes. of their wealth while 500,000 the biggest item is all the people sleep out on the street tonight. money i give away, and we list that every single donation i what we are saying, pete, is make. maybe it's time for the working class of this country to have a and you can get that from our little bit of power in foundation any time you want. >> senator klobuchar? washington, rather than your billionaire campaign >> i'm looking at my husband in contributors. the front row that has to do our taxes all the time. >> all right, look, first of we probably could go to turbo tax. and the point of this is, i all -- look, my campaign is believe in transparency. i had a physical, by the way.

fueled by hundreds of thousands it came out well. of contributors. >> including 46 billionaires. we might all be surprised if my blood pressure is lower than mayor pete's. >> among the hundreds of that might really shock everyone out there. thousands of contributors. and i think you should release and, look, we've got to unite your records from your physical. this country to deal with these issues. secondly, when it comes to tax returns, everyone up here has you're not the only one who cares about the working class. released their tax returns, mayor. most americans believe we need to empower workers. i think -- it is a major issue as a matter of fact, you're the because the president of the one who is at war with the united states has been hiding culinary union right here in las vegas. behind his tax returns. even when courts order him to >> we are more union support come forward with those tax returns. than you have ever dreamed of, we have the support of unions and i think -- i don't care how all across this country. much money anyone has, i think it's great you got a lot of money. but i think you've got to come forward with your tax returns. >> yeah, but the vision i'm putting forward has the support >> senator -- mayor bloomberg, a of the american people. >> really? quick response to senator >> we can actually deliver klobuchar. >> we're releasing them, they'll health care without taking it away from people. be out in a few weeks, and that's as fast as i can do it. we can actually empower workers remember, i only entered into and lift wages without further polarizing this country. and we can build a movement without having legions of our this race ten weeks ago. all my associates have been at this for a couple of years. supporters online and in person >> that's right, we have. engaging with voters, humbling attacking democratic leaders. ourselves -- >> look, i think it is -- >> democratic figures and union >> mayor bloomberg, let me ask leaders alike. >> senator warren, i have a you about something else --

question for you. sunday on "meet the press" vice president biders accused senator sanders' supporters of bullying >> pay them overtime and get it union leaders here with vicious, done. malicious, misogynistic things. >> i wish it were that simple. you said democrats cannot build >> mayor bloomberg -- >> it would save me a lot of money. >> several former employees have an inclusive party on a claimed that your company was a hostile workplace for women. foundation of hate. when you were confronted about it, you admitted making sexually are senator sanders and his supporters making it harder for democrats to unify in november? >> i've said many times before, we are all responsible for our supporters and we need to step up. quote, that's the way i grew up. in a lawsuit in the 1990s, that's what leadership is all according to the "washington about. post," one former female but the way we are going to lead this country and beat donald employee alleged that you said, trump is going to be with a candidate who has rock-solid quote, i would do you in a second. values and who actually gets something done. should democrats expect better from their nominee? >> let me say a couple of things. when mayor bloomberg was busy if i can have my full 1:15, thank you. blaming african-americans and latinos for the housing crash of i have no tolerance for the kind of behavior the "me too" movement has exposed. 2008, i was right here in las vegas, literally, just a few anybody that does anything wrong in our company, we investigate it, and if it's appropriate, they're gone that day. blocks down the street holding but let me tell you what i do at hearings on the banks that were taking away homes from millions of families. my company and my foundation and that's when i met mr. estrada, in city government when i was there. one of your neighbors. he came in to testify, and he

said he thought he'd done in my foundation, a person that everything right with wells runs it's a woman. fargo. 70% of the people there are but what had happened? women. they took away his house in a in my company, lots and lots of matter of weeks. women have big responsibilities, this man stood there and cried they get paid exactly the same while he talked about what it as men. was like to tell his two little and in my -- in city hall, the daughters that they might not be in their elementary school, that person that's the top person, my they might be living out of deputy mayor, was a woman. their van. 40% of our commissioners were women. i spent the next years making sure that would never happen again. i am very proud of the fact that about two weeks ago, we were wall street fought us every inch awarded -- we were voted the of the way on a consumer agency. they lost. and i won. most -- the best place to work, we need a candidate with unshakeable values and a second-best place in america. candidate who can actually get if that doesn't say something something done for working people. about our employees and how >> thank you, senator. >> that's why i'm in this race, happy they are, i don't know and that's how i'll beat donald what does. trump. >> senator warren, you've been >> senator sanders. critical of mayor bloomberg on this issue. >> yes, i have. >> we have over 10.6 million and i hope you heard what his defense was. people on twitter and 99.9% of i've been nice to some women. them are decent human beings, that just doesn't cut it. are working people, are people who believe in justice, the mayor has to stand on his

record, and what we need to know compassion and love. is exactly what's lurking out and if there are a few people there. he has gotten some number of who make ugly remarks, who women -- dozens, who knows -- to sign nondisclosure agreements attack trade union leaders, i disown those people, they are not part of our movement. both for sexual harassment and for gender discrimination in the let me also say -- what i hope workplace. my friends up here will agree with -- is that if you look at so, mr. mayor, are you willing to release all of those women the wild west of the internet, from those nondisclosure talk to some of the agreements? so we can hear their side of the story? african-american women on my campaign. [ cheers and applause ] talk to senator nina turner. talk to others. and find the vicious, racist, >> we have a very few sexist attacks that are coming nondisclosure agreements -- their way as well. >> how many is that? >> let me finish. so i would hope that all of us >> how many is that? >> none of them accuse me of understand that we should do doing anything other than maybe everything we possibly can to they didn't like a joke i told. end the viciousness and ugliness on the internet. and let me just -- there's our campaign is about issues. agreements between two parties it's about fighting for the working families and the middle that wanted to keep it quiet. class. and that's up to them. they signed those agreements and it is not about vicious attacks we'll live with it. on other people. >> wait, when you say it is >> senator, when you say that you disown these attacks, and you didn't personally direct them, i believe you. up -- i just want to be clear. >> well, thank you. some is how many? >> but at a certain point you've

got to ask yourself, why did this pattern arise? and when you say they signed why is it especially the case them, and they wanted them, if they wish now to speak out and tell their side of the story among your supporters? >> i don't think it is about what it is they alleged especially the case, by the way. that's now okay with you? >> that's just not true. >> no. you're releasing them on television tonight? >> senator -- no -- pete, if you want to talk to >> is that right? [ cheers and applause ] some of the women on my campaign, what you will see is the most ugly, sexist, racist >> senator, the company and somebody else, in this case the attacks that are -- i won't even man or the woman or it could be more than that, they decided describe them here, they're so disgusting. when they made an agreement, let me say something else, not they wanted to keep it quiet for being too paranoid. everybody's interests. >> no -- all of us remember 2016. >> come on. and what we meant -- what we remember is efforts by russians and others to try to interfere >> they signed the agreements and that's what we're going to in our election. live with. and divide us up. >> i'm sorry, the question is, i'm not saying that's happening. are the women bound by being muzzled by you? but it would not shock me. you could release them from that i saw some of those tweets immediately. regarding the culinary workers because understand, this is not union. just a question of the mayor's i have a 30-year, 100% pro-union character. voting record. you think i would support or this is also a question about electability. anybody supports me would be attacking union leaders? we are not going to beat donald trump with a man who has who it's not thinkable. knows how many nondisclosure >> leadership is about what you agreements and the drip, drip, draw out of people, it's about how you inspire people to act. drip of stories of women saying

right now we're in this toxic political environment. they have been harassed and discriminated against. leadership isn't just about policy. that's not what we do as democrats. i think, at least in broad >> mr. vice president -- terms, we're largely pulling in >> look, let's get something the same direction on policy. straight here. it's easy. but leadership is also about how all the mayor has to do is say, you motivate people to treat other people. you are released from the nondisclosure agreement. i think you have to accept some responsibility and ask yourself period. what it is about your campaign talk about transparency here. in particular that seems to be this guy got himself in trouble motivating this behavior more saying that there was a non -- than others? that he couldn't disclose what because in order to turn the he did -- page on the trump era, we're going to need a president, not just a candidate who can win but >> that was about a list of a president, who moves clients. forward -- >> i have an idea how we could so nobody gets the wrong idea. stop sexism on the internet, we could nominate a woman for candidate of president of the >> no, no, no -- >> i know what you meant. united states. >> he went to the company, said i want to be released, i want to be able to do it. look, this is about transparency, from the very beginning. i think that might go a long way whether it's your health record, your taxes, whether you have if we showed our stuff as a cases against you, whether or not people have signed party. and the other thing i want to talk about is really what's at nondisclosure agreements. the core of this issue between you think the women in fact were ready to say, i don't want senator sanders and the culinary anybody to know about what you did to me? that's not how it works. union, and that is this. the way it works is they say, these are hard-working people, housekeepers like elizabeth and look, this is what you did to me i met with last night, who have health care plans that have been and the mayor comes along and

his attorneys say, i will give negotiated over time, sweat, and blood. you this amount of money if you and that is the truth for so promise you'll never say anything. many americans right now. that's how it works. >> senator, thank you. >> there are 149 million >> mayor bloomberg? americans that would lose their current health insurance -- >> senator klobuchar, thank you. final word to you. >> -- under senator sanders' >> i said we're not going to bill, that's what it says on get -- to end these agreements page 8. because they were made and i don't think we should forget that. consensually and they have every right to expect that they will stay private. >> on that note, i want to turn >> if they want to release it, it over to my colleague, chuck todd. they should be able to release >> senator sanders, i want to themselves. stay on this topic on the issue say yes. with the culinary union. obviously their leaders are >> you know, we talk about warning their members about -- electability. and everybody up here wants to that your health care plan will beat trump. take away their health care plan, take away private insurance completely. and we talked about stop and frisk and we talked about the workplace that mayor bloomberg there are some democrats who has established and the problems like you a lot but worry that there. this plan, medicare for all, is but maybe we should also ask how going to take away private insurance and that it goes too mayor bloomberg in 2004 far. supported george w. bush for are they right? president. >> no. put money into republican let me be very clear. candidates for the united states senate. two points. when some of us, joe and i were others, were fighting for for 100 years, from teddy democrats to control the united roosevelt to barack obama, this states senate. country has been talking about the need to guarantee health care for all people. >> and didn't support barack.

>> maybe we can talk about a and yet today, despite spending billionaire saying that we twice as much per capita, chuck, twice as much, as any other shouldn't raise the minimum wage. or that we should cut social major country on earth, we got security, medicare, medicaid. 87 million who are uninsured or if that's a way to beat donald trump, wow. underinsured. i would be very surprised. >> thank you, senator. we got over 60,000 people who vanessa, to you. >> wait, wait -- die every year because they don't get to a doctor on time. we're getting ripped off >> senator klobuchar, you're outrageously by the greed and running on your washington corruption of the pharmaceutical experience, but last week industry which in some cases in a telemundo interview you could not name the president of charges us 10 times more for the same drugs because of their mexico or discuss any of his price fixing. policies. last night you defended yourself 500,000 people go bankrupt every saying, quote, this isn't year because they can't afford medical bills. "jeopardy." let me be very clear for my good but my question to you is, friends in the culinary workers shouldn't our next president union, a great union. know more about one of our largest trading partners? >> of course. i will never sign a bill that of course. will reduce the health care benefits they have. and i don't think that that we will only expand it for them, momentary forgetfulness actually for every union in america, and reflects what i know about for the working class of this country. mexico and how much i care about it. and i first want to say, greetings to president lopez >> senator warren, you were all in on medicare for all, then you have since -- came up with a

transition plan. obrador. is it because of the impact on unions? secondly, what i meant by the game of "jeopardy!" is that i >> so, i want to be clear. think we could all come up with i've been to the culinary union's health care facilities. things, how many members are they're terrific. you don't want to shut them there in the israeli knesset? down, you want to expand them, you want to see them all across 120. who is the president of honduras? nevada and all across this hernandez. >> senator klobuchar -- country, but we need to get >> when it comes to mexico, i am everybody's health care plan out the one person on the stage that here. came out first to say i was for mayor buttigieg really has a slogan that was thought up by his consultants to paper over a the u.s./mexican/canadian trade agreement. thin version of a plan that that is going to be one of the number one duties of a president -- would leave millions of people >> senator klobuchar, my unable to afford their health colleague specifically asked you care. if you could name the president of mexico. >> yes. it's not a plan, it's a power >> and your response was no. point. >> yes, that's right. and amy's plan is even less. and i said that i made an error. it's like a post-it note, insert plan here. i think having a president that maybe is humble and is able to bernie has started very much -- admit that here and there, maybe has a good start. wouldn't be a bad thing. >> mayor buttigieg -- >> if you would let me -- but instead of expanding and bringing in more people to help, >> i wouldn't liken this to trivia. instead his campaign relentlessly attacks everyone i actually didn't know how many who asks a question or tries to members were in the knesset, so

fill in details about how to you got me there. actually make this work. >> there you go. >> you're staking your candidacy and then his own advisers say, on your washington experience. you're on the committee that eh, probably won't happen oversees border security. anyway. you're on the committee that does trade. you're literally part of the committee that's overseeing look, health care is a crisis in these things. this country. and were not able to speak to literally the first thing about we need -- my approach to this the politics of the country to is we need as much help for as our south? >> are you trying to say that many people as quickly as possible. i'm dumb? are you mocking me here, pete? and bring in as many supporters as we can. >> i'm saying you shouldn't trivialize that knowledge. >> i'm saying i made an error. and if we don't get it all the people sometimes forget names. first time, take the win and i am the one that has, number come back into the fight to ask for more. one, has the experience based on >> guys, i'm going to get everybody in. passing over 100 bills -- >> thank you, senator. >> they need our help on this. >> if i could respond, this was a pretty big allegation. >> i got you. mayor buttigieg, i think she >> quickly, please. >> he's basically saying that i name checked you first. i'll let you go first. don't have the experience to be president of the united states. i have passed over 100 bills as the lead democrat since being in the u.s. senate. >> name checked me second. >> well, okay. you too. >> i'm more of a microsoft word guy. i am the one, not you, that has if you look at my plan, i don't know if there are any powerpoints on it but you won statewide in congressional district after congressional definitely find the document on peteforamerica.com. district. and i will say when you tried in you'll see that it is a plan indiana, pete, to run, what that solves the plan, makes sure happened to you?

there is no such thing as an uninsured american, and does it you lost by over 20 points to without kicking anybody off the someone who later lost to my plan that they have. this idea that the union members friend joe donnelly. don't know what's good for them so don't tell me about experience. what unites us here is we want to win. is the exact kind of >> all right. >> and i think we should put a condescension and arrogance that proven winner in charge of the makes people skeptical of the ticket. >> this is a race for -- >> your response, mayor policies we've been putting buttigieg. forward. >> this is a race for president. if winning a race in minnesota here we have a plan that the majority of americans support. do you realize how historic that is? that the american people already translated directly to becoming in a way far beyond what was president, i would have grown up true even ten years ago in what upped the presidency of walter mondale. this is different. was available to president obama at the time, a powerful american and the reason i think we need majority ready to undertake the biggest, most progressive reform to talk about washington we've had in health care in 50 experience is we should ask what years, just so long as we don't force it on anybody. that experience has led to. what is wrong with that? experience and certainly tenure >> can i respond to that? is not always the same thing as >> let me get senator klobuchar judgement. if we're going to talk about votes in the senate in and then i'll have you respond. washington, let's talk about it. all right. >> let's talk about a major senator klobuchar. >> i was in there. policy -- >> next question -- next >> i think the post-it note came first, senator. i don't know. question. >> i must say i take personal hello, hello, hello, thank you. offense, since post-it notes were invented in my state. senator warren and mayor bloomberg, this question is for [ laughter ] >> 3m. you. >> so my plan is a public i want to talk about -- maybe --

option. and according to all the studies >> can i defend senator out there, it would reduce klobuchar for a moment? premiums for 12 million people this is not right. immediately. i understand that she forgot a name. it happens. it would expand coverage for it happens to everybody on this about that same number. stage. look, you want to ask about it is a significant thing. it is what barack obama wanted to do from the very beginning. whether or not you understand trade policy with mexico? the way i look at it, since we're in vegas, when it comes to have at it. and if you get it wrong, man, your plan, elizabeth, and bernie's on medicare for all, you ought to be held accountable you don't put your money on a for that. you want to ask about the number that's not even on the economy and you get it wrong, wheel. you ought to be held and why is medicare for all not on the wheel? accountable. you want to ask about a thousand why is it not on the wheel? different issues and you get it because two-thirds of the wrong, you ought to be held democratic senators are not even accountable, but let's just be on that bill. clear, missing a name all by because a bunch of the new house itself does not indicate that you do not understand what's members that got elected see the going on. problems with blowing up the and i just think this is unfair. affordable care act. they see it right in front of them. >> senator warren, you are and the truth is that when you see some troubled waters, you right. you are right, but senator don't blow up a bridge, you build one. klobuchar could not discuss and so we need to improve the mexican policy. affordable care act, not blow it >> fair enough. up. fair enough. >> i'm the only one who knows >> let me just say -- this man and met with him. >> i do have to respond. >> come on, man. >> can i respond to these? >> i called him up.

>> you name checked two of them. >> you invoked my name again, go ahead, senator sanders. and i ask you to look at the interview i did directly after we'll get you in. the forum, which we went into we've got a lot of people in here we've got to hit. great detail on latin american >> here we go. it's my turn? >> yes, sir. >> okay. policy. and i want to say one thing or mayor pete where we just somehow or another, canada can disagree. he was asked on the debate stage provide universal health care to about the mexican cartels which are bad, bad criminal all of their people, half the organizations. he said that he would be open to cost, uk can do it, france can classifying them as terrorist organizations. i actually don't agree with that. do it, all of europe can do it. gee whiz. somehow or other, we are the only major country on earth that can't do it. why is that? and i'll tell you why. i actually don't agree with it's because last year the that. that is a very valid debate to health care industry made $100 have. billion in profits. i don't think that would be good for our security coordination pharmaceutical industry, top six with mexico and i think you got that wrong. >> at least that's -- companies, $69 billion in profit. >> i spent more time in mexico and those ceos are contributing to pete's campaign and other than anybody. could i get a chance to say campaigns up here -- >> let's clear this up right now. >> maybe, maybe it is finally something? >> si. time that we said as a nation, >> si. thank you. i'm the only one who's spent enough is enough, the function hundreds of hours in latin

america. i met with this president. i met with the last president, of a rational health care system the one before that. is not to make the i've been deeply involved in making sure that we have a policy that makes more sense than this god awful president we pharmaceutical industry and the have now. i'm the guy that put together $750 million to provide help for drug companies rich, it is to those latin american countries provide health care to all that are the reason why people are leaving because there's people as a human right, not a privilege. nothing for them to stay for. >> mr. vice president -- i've spent hours and hours and hours. so you want to talk about >> no premiums, no co-payments, experience in washington, it's no deductibles. good to know with whom you're talking. it's good to know what they >> mr. vice president and then think. senator warren. it's good to know what you think and it's good to be able to have >> i'm the only one on the stage a relationship. that actually got anything done that's what it's about. on health care. okay? >> all right. i'm the guy the president turned to and said, go get the votes for obamacare. i notice what everybody's clearly everybody is warmed up. we're going to take a short talking about is the plan that i first introduced. break and kick off the next hour with a topic many voters have that is to go and add to obamacare, provide a public said are top of mind, the climate crisis. we're back in a moment. option, a medicare-like option. it cost -- increase the i wanted my hepatitis c gone. subsidies. it cost a lot of money. it cost $750 billion over 10 years. but i paid for it by making sure that mike and other people paid the same tax rate their i put off treating mine. secretary pays at. that's how we get it paid, epclusa treats all main types of chronic hep c. number one. whatever your type, epclusa could be your kind of cure. number two, from the moment, from the moment we passed that signature legislation, mike i just found out about mine.

called it a disgrace, number one. i knew for years number two, trump decided to get epclusa has a 98% overall cure rate. rid of it. number three, my friends here came up with another plan. i had no symptoms of hepatitis c but they don't tell you, when mine caused liver damage. epclusa is only one pill, once a day, taken you ask bernie how much it costs, the last time he said with or without food for 12 weeks. that, when he went on your show, before starting epclusa, your doctor will test if you we'll found out. have had hepatitis b, which may flare up, and could we'll find out, something to that effect. it cost over $35 trillion. let's get real. cause serious liver problems during and after treatment. >> senator warren, you get the final word. go ahead, senator warren. tell your doctor if you have had hepatitis b, other liver or... >> so i actually -- so i ...kidney problems, hiv, or other medical conditions... actually took a look at the plans that are posted. ...and all medicines you take, including herbal supplements. mayor buttigieg, there are four expenses that families pay. taking amiodarone with epclusa may right? cause a serious slowing of your heart rate. premiums, deductibles, co-pays, common side effects include headache and tiredness. and uncovered medical ex-pens. ask your doctor today, if epclusa is your kind of cure. expenses. mayor buttigieg says he will put a cap only on the premiums. it's either the assucertification process. >> that's not true. >> and that means families are or it isn't. going to pick up the rest of the costs. it's either testing an array of advanced safety systems. amy, i looked online at your plan, it's two paragraphs. families are suffering. and they need -- or it isn't. it's either the peace of mind >> okay, that's it. >> you can' of a standard unlimited mileage warranty.

and trash an idea to give health care coverage to everyone or it isn't.r those w, without having a realistic plan of your own. it's either mercedes-benz certified pre-owned. or it isn't. and if you're not going to own up to the fact either that you don't have a plan or that your the mercedes-benz certified pre-owned sales event. plan is going to leave people without health care coverage, now through march 2nd. only at your authorized mercedes-benz dealer. full coverage, then you need to say so. i just want to say, when i was in reno, when i met a man who said he had diabetes, he gets his insulin through the va. but his sister and his daughter also have diabetes. no way to pay for their insulin. three human beings right here in nevada -- >> my plan takes care of that. >> they are struggling, they share one insulin prescription, it should not happen in this country. >> is vice president biden right, you weren't a fan of obamacare? >> i am a fan of obamacare. >> that's not true, mr. mayor. >> mr. vice president, i just checked the record because you'd said one time that i was not. in '09 i testified and gave a speech before the mayors

conference in washington and with the sxfinity stream app,shows, screen is your big screen. advocating it and trying to get all the mayors to sign on. or stream live tv. i think at that time i wrote an download your dvr'd shows and movies on the fly. even record from right where you are. article praising obamacare, either in the "new york post" or "the daily news." whether you're travelling around the country so the facts are -- or around the house, keep what you watch with you. >> didn't you call it a disgrace -- >> let me finish, thank you. i was in favor of it. download the xfinity stream app i thought it didn't go as far as we should. and watch all the shows you love. what trump has done to this is a disgrace. the first thing we've got to do is get the white house and bring back those things that were left, and then find ways to expand it. another public option, having some rules about capping charges. all of those things. we shouldn't just walk away and start something that is totally new, untried. >> okay, vice president biden, go ahead. >> the mayor said, when we passed it, the signature piece of this administration, it's a disgrace. they're the exact words. it was a disgrace. look it up, check it out, it was a disgrace. >> thank you.

>> i covered, by the way, that plan, you do not have surprise billing, you bring down drug prices, people are not -- it gives people all the things we're just talking about. i guess you've not got time to do it but i'll get a chance to talk. >> thank you. lester? >> mayor bloomberg, at the beginning of this debate you took incoming fire on this next topic. so let's get into it. in 2015, this is how you described your policing policy as mayor. quote, we put all the cops into minority neighborhoods. ♪ you explain that is quote because that's where all the crime is. you went on to say, and the way you should get the guns out of kids' hands is to throw them against the wall and frisk them. you've apologized for that policy. what does that kind of language say about how you view people of welcome back. color or people in minority neighborhoods? we received hundreds of questions from democratic >> well, if i go back and look voters, and many of them were at my time in office, the one about the climate crisis. it's an issue that uniquely impacts nevadans. thing that i'm really worried jon ralston from "the nevada about, embarrassed about, was independent" kicks us off. how it turned out with stop and frisk.

when i got into office, there >> so, y'all ready to play some was 650 murders a year in new york city. nevada trivia now? and i thought that my first i'm only half joking. responsibi let's talk about this issue. it's up there in polls. voters are really concerned about it, as you all know. what you might not know is las vegas and reno are the vibrant economic engines for the state of nevada and are also two of the fastest warming cities in the country. in certain months of the year, the heat is already an emergency situation for residents and for tourists walking up and down the strip. so, i'm going to start with you, mr. vice president. what specific policies would you implement that would keep las vegas and reno liveable, but also not hurt those economies. >> it is the existential threat that humanity faces, global warming. you have a facility where you have one of the largest, largest solar panels arrays in the world, and it's in one of the -- will be able to take care of

60,000 homes for every single bit of their needs. what i would do is, number one, work on providing the $47 billion we have for tech and for -- to making sure we find answers is to provide a way to transmit that wind and solar energy across the network of -- in the united states. invest in battery technology. i would immediately reinstate all of the elimination of the -- of what trump has eliminated in terms of epa. i would secondly make sure that we had 500,000 new charging stations. and every new highway we built in the united states of america or repaired. i would make sure that we once again made sure that we got the mileage standards back up, which would have saved over 12 billion barrels of oil, had he not walked away from it. i would invest in rail. in rail. rail can take hundreds of thousands, millions of cars off the road if you have high-speed rail. >> thank you, mr. vice i want to get the rest of you in on this.

mayor bloomberg, let me read what you said. you said you want to intensify and u.s. international actions to stop the expansion of coal. how exactly are you going to do that? >> well, already we've closed 304 out of 530 power plants in the united states and we've closed 80 out of the 200 or 300 in europe. bloomberg philanthropy working the sierra club. that's one of the things you do. let's start at the beginning. if you're president, the first thing the first day is rejoin the paris agreement. this is ridiculous for us. two, america's responsibility is to be the leader in the world. and if we don't, we're the ones who will get hurt as much as anybody else. that's why i don't want to us cut off all relationships with china. you'll never solve this problem without china and india, western europe and america. one other thing. i believe and you can tell me

whether this is right, the sole ever a array that the vice president was talking about is being closed because it's not economic, that you can put solar panels in, modern technology, even more modern than that. >> i want to let senator warren jump in. you said something really specific to nevada. the tension here in this state is between people want renewable energy and people want conservation on public lands. 80% is managed by the federal government. you have said that you will have an executive order that would stop drilling on public lands. stop mining, a huge industry here. you have to have lithium, you have to have copper. how do you do that? >> i think we should stop all new drilling and mining on public lands and all offshore drilling. if we need to make exceptions because there are specific metals that we have to have access to, we locate those and we do it not in a way that is just about the profits of giant industries, but in a way that is

sustainable for the environment. we cannot continue to let our public lands be used for profits by those who don't care about our environment and are not making it better. look, i'm going to say something really controversial in washington. but i think i'm safe to say this here in nevada. i believe in science. and that i believe the way -- that we're going to deal with this problem is that we are going to increase by ten fold our investment in science. there is an upcoming $27 trillion market worldwide for green. and much of what is needed has not yet been invented. my proposal is let's invent it here in the united states and then say, we invent it in the u.s. you have to build it in the u.s manufacturing jobs. >> we're going to stick to this topic. senator sanders, i'll going to

you want a total ban on that in the next five years. the industry supports a lot of jobs around the country including thousands in the battle ground state of pennsylvania. one union official told "the new york times," if we end one a democratic candidate that supports a fracking ban, i'll going to tell my members that either you don't vote or you vote for the other guy. what do you tell these workers supporting a big industry right now? >> what i tell these workers is that the scientists are telling us, if we don't act incredibly boldly within the next six, seven years, there will be irreparable damage done. not just in nevada. not just vermont or massachusetts but to the entire world. joe said it right. this is an existential threat. do you know what that means, chuck? that means we're fighting for the future of this planet. and the green new deal that i support, by the way, will create up to 20 million good paying

jobs as we move our energy system away from fossil fuel to energy efficiency and sustainable energy. this is a moral issue, my friends. we have to take the responsibility of making sure that the planet we leave our children and grandchildren is a planet that is healthy and habitable. that is more important -- >> okay. >> than the fossil fuel industry. >> i want to keep this going. senator klobuchar, you're not on the same page. the total ban of fracking. you call it a transitional fuel. but scientists are sounding this alarm now. do you take these warning that's maybe fracking is a step backward? not a transition. >> i made it very clear that we have to review all the permits out there for our natural gas. and then make decisions on each one of them and then not grant new ones until we make sure it is safe.

it is a transitional fuel. and i want to add something that hasn't been brought up by my colleagues. this is a crisis and a lot of our plans are very similar to get to carbon neutral by 2025, 2050, something like that. we won't be able to pass this unless we bring people with us. i'm looking at these incredible senators from nevada. and i'm thinking that they know how important this is. and you can do this in a smart way. one, get back into that international climate change agreement. two, clean power rules. bring those back. the president can do this herself without congress as well as the gas mileage standard. when it comes the putting a sweep, a price on carbon, this is very important, chuck, we have to make sure that money goes back directly as dividends to the people who will need help for paying their bills. otherwise, we won't pass it. so there has to be a heart to the policy to get this done. >> senator warren, address the worker issue as well. can you address that issue? >> yes.

we can have a green new deal and create jobs. we need people in infrastructure who will help build. >> we need jobs tomorrow. >> yes. those jobs are for tomorrow. those are the ones we need to be working on to harden our infrastructure right now. listen to senator klobuchar's point. she says we have to think smaller in order to get it passed. i don't think that's the right approach here. why can't we get anything passed in washington on climate? everyone understand urgency. we have two problems. the first is corruption. an industry that makes its money felt all through washington. the first thing i want to do in washington is pass my anti-corruption bill so we can start making the changes we need to make on climate. and the second is the filibuster. if you're not willing to roll back the filibuster, then you're giving the fossil fuel industry a veto. >> senator, thank you. vanessa has the next question.

>> you said you want to hold oil and gas executives account an for their role in harming our planet. which companies are you talking about and how far are you willing to go? >> i'm willing to go as far as we have to. first of all i would eliminate all the subsidies we have for oil and gas. eliminate it. period. that would save millions and billions of dollars. number two. i think that any executive who is engaging -- by the way, minority communities are the ones most badly hurt by the way in which we deal with climate change. they are victims. that's where the asthma is. that's where the ground water has been polluted. that's where people do not have the opportunity to be able to get away from everything from asbestos in the because of our schools. i have a trillion-dollar program for infrastructure. that will provide for thousands

and thousands of new jobs. not $15 an hour but $50 an hour plus benefits. unions. being able to do that. what it does is it will change the nature. here's the last point. my time will run out. here's the last point i want to make to you. on day one when i'm elected president, i will invite all the members of the paris accord to washington, d.c. they make up 85% of the problem. they know me. i'm used to dealing with international relations. i will get them on tim anty. >> you didn't answer my question. >> i thought i did. >> what would you do with the companies responsible for the destruction of our planet? >> what would i do with them? number one, stop. number two, if you demonstrate that they have in fact done things already that are bad and they've been lying, they should be able to be sued. they should be able to be held personally accountable, and not tonight company, not the stockholders but the ceos of those companies.

they should be engaged. a little bit, like, look. these are the industries we should sue. just like the drug companies. just like the tobacco companies. theon one we can't go after are gun manufacturers because of my buddy here. >> we're going to stay on the topic. my question is to mayor bloomberg. your business is heavily invest in the china. i think you mention that had a few questions back. the number one producer in the world of carbon emissions. how far would you go to force china to reduce those emissions and tackle the climate crisis? >> you aren't going to war with them. you have to negotiate -- we've seen how well it works terrorists hurting us. you have to convince the chinese that it is in their interests as well. their people will die just as our people will die. we work together. the chinese have slowed down.

it is india that is an even bigger problem. it is an enormous problem. nobody is doing anything about it. we could make a difference. we're closing the five power plants. if we enforce the rules on fracking so they don't release methane into the air and water, you'll make a big difference. we won't get rid of fracking. you frac natural gas but oil as well. it is a technique. when it is done poorly like they're doing in too many places where the meth age gets into the air, it is very damaging. it is a transition fuel. you want to go to all renewables. that's still many years from now. before, i think the senator mentioned 2050 for some data. no scientist thinks it is 2050. 2040, 2035. than any scientific study had predicted. we've just got to do something. >> let's be real about the deadline. it's not 2050, not 5040, not 2030. it's 2020.

if we don't elect a president who believes in climate science now, we will never meet any of the deadlines we need to. first of all -- >> let's make sure we're positioned to win. if we put forward two of the most polarizing figures on this stage as the only option, there will be a real struggle. now, i've got a plan to get us carbon neutral by 2050. and i think everybody up here has a plan that more or less does the same. the real question is how are we going to actually get it done? we need leadership to make this a national project that breaks down the partisan and political tug-of-war that prevents anything from getting done. first of all, making sure those jobs are available quickly. secondly, ensuring we are pulling in those very sectors that have been made to feel like they're part of the problem. from farming to industry. and fund as well as urge them to do the right thing.

then global climate diplomacy. i'm a little skeptical that convincing will do the trick with china. america has repeatedly overestimated our ability to shape chinese ambitions. what we can do is everybody sure -- >> okay. wait for a second. senator warren? >> yes. i want to make sure that the question of environmental justice gets more than a glancing blow in this debate. because for generations now, in this country, toxic waste dumps, polluting factories have been located in or near communities of color. over and over and over. and the consequences are felt in the health of young african-american babies, it is felt in the health of seniors. people with compromised immune systems. it is also felt economically. who wants to move into an area where the air smells bad and you can't drink the water? i have a commitment of a trillion dollars to repair the

damage that this nation has permitted to inflict on communities of color for generations now. we have to own up to our responsibility. we can't simply talk about climate change in big global terms. we need to talk about it in terms of rescuing the communities that have been damaged. >> senator warren, thank you. >> i want to ask but something else important to people here. i want to ask but latinos. one out of every four small businesses in the united states. many have benefited from president trump's tax cuts. they may be hesitant about new taxes or regulations. will taxes on their small business go up under your administration? >> no. as a matter of fact, we'll make sure there is more money available for small businesses and latino community and the black community to get the capital to start businesses. at the treasury department there will be a window available where we significantly increased the at of money available so

people can borrow the money to get started. they've demonstrated they're incredibly successful. we should not raise taxes, we should start rewarding work, not just wealth. that's why we have to change the tax code the way it is. the wealthy have to pay their fair share and that's why we have to focus on the ability to garner wealth. to generate wealth. that's why this area of red lining, it wasn't the wall street failing. the greed of wall street it was reason it occurred. not red lining. and lastly i want to say. look. the idea of china, they're taking dirtiest coal in the world, mostly in outer mongolia, and spreading it around the world. it's clear. when you get called to washington in the first 100 days. if you continue, you will suffer severe consequences. the rest of the word will impose tariffs on everything you're selling. because you are undercutting the entire economy.

>> thank you, mr. vice president. mayor buttigieg, will taxes go up under you? >> not if they are small businesses. what we've got to do is level the playing field. a company like amazon, chevron, is paying literally zero on billions of dollars in profits and it puts small businesses like the ones revitalizing my own city at a disadvantage. we need to recognize that investing is an investment in latino entrepreneur ship the future of america. and it is time for a president who understands the value of immigration in lifting up all of our communities and our country. we're getting the exact opposite message from the current president. and it is type to recognize not just the diversity of the latino community but the importance of issues like economic empowerment. >> we have an entrepreneurship gap in america. pass gap between white

entrepreneurs and black and latino entrepreneurs. the principal reason is they don't have the equity to get the businesses started. it is about a $7 billion gap. we want to have real entrepreneurship on a level playing field. i have a plan to put the $7 billion in to fund manage by people who are routinely cut out. it can't just be about tafs. -- taxes. we need to make an investment to level the playing field. >> i want to get at something. mayor bloomberg -- >> the only one who started a business -- >> you seem to imply that red lining and stopping that, stopping red lining has somehow contributed to the financial crisis. >> that's exactly wrong. >> that was the implication that cape out in the quote. i want to give you an opportunity. >> on the record, against red since i worked on wall street.

i've been against it since the financial crisis. it came about because the people who took the mortgages, packaged them and others bought them. that's where the disaster was. red lining is still a practice some places and we have to cut i out. it is just not true. what i was going to say, maybe we want to talk about businesses. i'm the only one here who ever started a business. is that fair? okay. what we need is, i can tell you in new york city, we had programs. mentoring programs for young business people so they can learn how to start a business. we had programs to get then will seed capital. presumes to get branch banking in their neighbors. if you don't have a branch bank, you can't get a checking account, then you can't get a loan. you can't get a mortgage. there are ways to fix this. it doesn't take trillions of dollars. it takes to us focus on the problems --

>> 45 seconds. senator sanders. 45 seconds. >> when we talked about a corrupt political system, bought by billionaires like mr. bloomberg, it manifests itself in a tax code in which not only is amazon and many other major corporations, some owned by the wealthiest people in this country not paying a nickel in taxes, we have the same situation that billionaires today, if you can believe it, have an effective tax rate lower than the middle class. so maybe just -- >> the tax code. what are you complaining? who wrote the code? >> you did. you and your -- not me. you and your campaign contributions electing people represent the wealthy and the powerful. >> throws the democrats, thank you. >> republicans, too. and george w. bush as well. >> senator klobuchar --

>> i was thinking there would be a boxing rematch on saturday in vegas and those guys should go down there. >> senator klobuchar, i want to get to you something about, senator sanders tweeted last year, billionaires should not exist. what say you? >> i believe in capitalism. but i think our, the goal of someone in government and a president of the united states should be a check on that. i'm not going to limit what people make but i think right now, our tax code is so tilted against regular people and that is what is wrong. i was thinking of your question about small businesses. the small businesses i talk to, they have trouble getting employees because their employees don't have childcare. we should have universal childcare. and we have not been talking enough about donald trump. let's just talk about donald trump. because he signed that tax bill that helped the wealthy. and he went down to mar-a-lago. he said to all his friends, you

just got a lot richer. that is exhibit "a." i can tell you the hard working people in nevada were not in that room. the key to me is to not limit what people can make but make sure we have a government that is fair for everyone. >> so senator sanders, what did you mean? >> we have a grotesque and immoral distribution of wealth and income. mike bloomberg owns more wealth than the bottom 125 million americans. that's wrong. that's immoral. that should not be the case when we have half a million people sleeping out on the streets. when we have kids who cannot afford to go to college. when we have 45 million people dealing with student debt. we have enormous problems facing this country and we cannot

continue seeing a situation where in the last three years, billionaires in this country saw an $850 billion increase in their wealth. congratulations, mr. bloomberg. the average american saw less than a 1% increase in his or her income. that's wrong. >> mayor bloomberg, should you exist? >> i can't speak for all billionaires. i know i've been very money. i've made a lot of money and i'll giving it all away to make this country better. and a good clunk goes to the democratic party as well. >> is it too much? has it been an -- should you have earned that much money? >> yes. i worked very hard for it. and i'll giving it away. >> thank you. >> mayor buttigieg, senator sanders has a proceeds a that would require all large companies to turn over 20% of their ownership to employees over time. is that a good idea? >> it's a great idea but i'm not sure it makes sense to command those companies to do it. if we really want to deliver less inequality in this country, we have to start with the tax code.

we have to start with investments in how people are able to live the american dream. which is in serious, serious decline. as a matter of fact, last time i checked the list of countries to live out the american dream, in other words, to be born at the bottom and come out at the top. we're not even in the top ten. the number one place to live is denmark. and as the lone person on the stage who is not a millionaire, let alone a billionaire, that i believe part of what needs to change is for the voices of the communities that haven't felt heard on wall street or in washington to actually be brought to capitol hill. it is why i am building a politics designed around inclusion. designed around belonging. the one thing that will definitely perpetuate the income inequality we're living with is for donald trump to be reelected because we polarized this country with the wrong nominee. >> it is your policy. >> thank you. it is my policy and i'm very

proud of that policy. what we need to do to deal with this grotesque level of income and wealth inequality, to make sure those people who are working, do you know why, mr. bloomberg wasn't you who made all that money of maybe your work played some role in that as well. and it is important that those workers are able to share the benefits also. when we have so many people to go work every day and they feel not good about their jobs. they feel like cogs in a machine. i want to sit on corporate boards as well so they can have some say over what happens to their lives. >> mayor bloomberg, would you support what senator sanders is proposing? >> absolutely not. i can't think of a way to make it easier for donald trump to get reelected than listening to this conversation. this is ridiculous. we're not going to throw out capitalism. we tried that. other countries tried that. it was called communism and it just didn't work.

>> so let me make a proposal that will work. that has not only support from a majority of democrats, but also, from a majority of the independents and a ma rt jo of republicans. pass two cent wealth tax on all fortunes above $50 million. you hit a billion, you have to pay a few more. this is the top tenth of 1% of america. and it permits to us start to restructure our community. it means we can afford universal childcare for every baby in this country 0-5. universal pre-k for every child in america. it means we can raise the wages of every childcare worker and preschool teacher and stop exploiting the black and brown women who do this work. it means we can put $800 billion into our public excuse. -- school. quadruple funding for title one

excuse and as a former special education teacher, we can fully fund idea so children with disabilities would get the full education they need. we can do college. we can put $50 billion into our historically black colleges and universities, and we can cancel student loan debt for 43 million americans. that's something a majority of americans support. a 2 cent wealth tax. it is a question of values. do we want to invest in mr. bloomberg or in an entire generation of young people. >> senator sanders, my next question is for you. our latest nbc news "wall street journal" poll released yesterday. two-thirds of you a voters said they were uncomfortable with a socialist candidate for president. what do you say to those voters? >> what was the result of that poll? who was winning? >> the question is to you. >> the question was, who was winning? and i think by a fairly comfortable margin. here's the point.

let's talk about democratic socialism. not communism, mr. bloomberg. that's a cheap shot. let's talk about what goes on in countries like denmark where people correctly pointed out, they have a much higher quality of life in many rms handle the -- respects than we do. what are we talking about? we are living in many ways in a socialist society right now. the problem is, as dr. martin luther king reminded us. we have socialism for the very rich. rugged individualism for the poor. >> wait a second. >> let me finish. when donald trump gets $800 million in tax breaks and subsidies to build luxury condominiums, that's socialism for the rich. we have to subsidize walmart workers on medicaid and food stamps because the wealthiest family in america pays starvation wages, that's socialism for the rich. i believe in democratic

socialism for working people. not billionaires. health care for all. educational opportunity for all. >> senator, thank you. mayor bloomberg -- >> what a wonderful country we have. the best known socialist in the company happens to be a millionaire with three houses. what did i miss? >> i work in washington. >> that's the first problem. >> live in burg. house two. and like thousands of other vermonters, i do have a summer camp. forgive me for that. where is your home and. which tax haven. >> new york city, thank you very much. and i pay all my taxes. and i'm happy to do it because i get something for it. and let me say i thought senator next to me was half right. i agree we should raise taxes. i disagree with the senator on the wealth tax but do i agree with her that the rich aren't paying their fair share. we should raise taxes on the rich. did i that as mayor in new york city. i raised taxes.

the first thing i would do is try on convince congress. they have to do it. we can't just order it. to roll back the tax cuts that the trump administration put in with through congress. >> vice president biden, weigh in on this question of americans' feelings on socialist candidates. >> for 36 years, i was listed as the poorest man in congress. i made money when i wrote a book about my son. it surprised me how many i sold. first time i ever made any money. here's the deal. we ought to start rewarding work. not just wealth. the idea that we have a tax rate for corporate america at 21% is ridiculous. it should be 28%. that would raise almost $800 billion a year. the idea that we have companies not paying anything at all. they should have a minimum tax

of 15%. that would raise another $740 billion a year. the idea that you're able to have a capital gains tax that you pay at the rate of 20% if you are mike bloomberg or whoever has a whole lot of money and someone else is paying, your staffer is paying it at 25%. that's wrong. that would raise another $800 billion. we should be rewarding work, not just wealth. and the american people, the middle class is getting killed and the poor have no way up. >> i want to get you in on this. in 2000, you wrote an award winning esay. you praised senator sanders. you praised him for embracing socialism. you have since said you're concerned about his policies. i am curious. are you out of touch with your own generation, millennials by a big chunk embracing his version of democratic socialism. you do not. are you out of touch with your generation? >> no.

it's true that i was into bernie before it was cool. >> thank you. >> he was a congressman at the time. the qualities i admired then are qualities i city respect a great deal. i never said that i agree with every part of his policy views then or now. but i appreciate that at least he's straightforward and honest about them. he is honest that attaches will go up on anybody making more than 29,000 to fund his health care plan. although, a little vague about how the rest -- >> you're not being honest that premiums would be eliminated. >> saving people money because they don't pay any preeps, co-payments or deductibles. >> where's the other -- where's the other $25 trillion supposed to come from? at a certain point you have to do the math. >> we got it all up there. a pay roll tax -- >> even after the pay roll tax.

>> because we have a we think -- wealth tax. elizabeth has good one. ours is a little tougher on mr. bloomberg. we will deal with wealth inequality and make sure that finally health care in this country is a human right. not a privilege. >> you went out of your way to call yourself a capitalist. why? >> yes. because i am. look, democrats want to beat donald trump. but they are worried. they are worried about gambling on a narrow vision that doesn't address the fears of millions of americans who want real change and see real problems. they are worried about gambling on a revolution that won't bring along majority of this country. amy and joe's hearts are in the right place. but we can't be so eager to be liked by mitch mcconnell that we

forget how to fight the republicans. mayor buttigieg has been taking money from big donors and changing his positions. so it makes it unclear what it is he stands for other than -- >> thank you the. senator klobuchar -- >> thank you. >> senator klobuchar, you've got the floor for 45. go. >> number one. i have repeatedly said that we have to win big. the way we win big is winning states like nevada. but also, winning the senate races in arizona and in colorado and beyond. and the reason we want to do that is to send mitch mcconnell packing. and i think when you look at my history, i am the one that has done that. i am the one who can be this ticket. just because i am willing to talk about common ground, that's where america is. it is not with mitch mcconnell who has 400 bills on his dpeks

-- desk should pass if we get rid of him. it is because i am willing to work with people and find common ground. that's what we want in a president, elizabeth. we don't wants someone that looks at just -- >> thank you. we need to take another break here. we'll return to the paris, las vegas in just a moment.

welcome back to las vegas and the democratic presidential debate. to kick off our next round of questioning. >> mayor bloomberg was the biggest outside spender helping democrats running for congress. he's donated billions toward causes like climate change, gun safety, education. if his money wasn't a problem then, why is it a problem now? >> i think he should absolutely be doing everything in his power to defeat donald trump. i just don't think that has to result in him becoming the president of the united states.

look. our party has values. we were built around values like making sure we protect working people. but mayor bloomberg opposed raising the minimum wage. our party has a tradition that includes excellent presseses -- presidents like barack obama who mayor bloomberg opposed. at the end of the day, it is not just about how much money you've got. it is what you stand for. we are living in a moment when americans are so deeply frustrated with the way that both wall street and washington seem to have overlooked our lives. the view from the porch of my one house in indiana is that they can't even see us sometimes. and if we're going into the election of our lives against a president who rose to power by cynically exploiting the frustration of ordinary americans feeling like leaders weren't speaking to then, then i think that turning to someone

like mayor bloomberg who thinks he can buy this election is no better a way to succeed than turning to somebody like senator sanders who wants to bring the house down. >> mr. vice president. >> it was said i was in the pocket of mitch mcconnell. tim only person on this stage who has beaten mitch mcconnell on four major cases. let me finish. and mitch mcconnell, i've been the object of his affection and the president's affection the way he's gone after me, this new republican party after me, after my son, after my family. i don't need to be told i'm a friend to mitch mcconnell's. he's been the biggest pain in my neck in a long, long time. and so that's number one. number two, we have to have somebody who understands what it is like for ordinary people. like my dad made that longest walk up a short flight of stairs saying, i don't have a job, honey. we have to move. you have to move with grandpa. how long it took to buy a house.

to get back into the game again. they have to understand the needs of ordinary people and they are getting killed no matter what people say about this economy, how good it is. and the good part of the economy, only 60 seconds. not up yet. we're in a situation where you have the, excuse me, the president making clear that he doesn't want any part of me being his opponent. he is spending $125,000 this week to keep me from being an opponent. i wonder why. >> thank you. >> can i respond to the vice president? he's identifying me specifically in this. >> 45 seconds. >> you're responding to an accusation. >> the point is different. here's what happened. according to the "new york times," the last time that mitch mcconnell was on the ballot, the vice president stood in the oval office and said, i home that mitch gets reelected so i can keep working with him. well, mitch did get -- >> totally out of context. >> mitch did get reelected.

he did not have an epiphany. instead he blocked nearly everything that barack obama tried to pass. and he stole a supreme court seat. >> come on. >> from the democrats. the consumer financial protection bureau. >> thank you, senator. >> yeah! >> thank you, senator. our next question goes to senator klobuchar. about 700,000 young people known as dreamers who were brought to this country as children are currently protected from deportation because of a program that is now under the review by the supreme court. if the court sides with the trump administration, which is eager to end this protection, what exactly is your plan to protect the dreamers permanently? >> to win. to beat donald trump. the best way to protect the dreamers is to have a new president. there are the votes there to

protect the dreamers and i have been working this since i got to the united states senate. in my first campaign, i actually had a bunch of ads run against me because i was standing up for immigrants. when i think of dreamers and i try to explain it to my state, i found a 99-year-old hispanic war veteran who was a dreamer when he was brought over to this country. and back then, he just went to canada for a night and came back and he was a permanent citizen because they needed him to serve in world war ii. now, not so easy. the dreamers are our future. the dreamers are so important in nevada. and the best way we can get this done is to beat donald trump. but it is to pass comprehensive immigration reform which creates a path to citizenship to so many hard working people, we'll bring down the deficit by $158 billion and we'll bring peace for these dreamers. no other country but our own. >> if you're going to run based

on your record of voting in washington, you have to own those votes. especially when it comes to immigration of the you voted to confirm the head of customs and border protection under trump who was part of family separation policy. you voted to make english the national language. do you know message that sends in as multilingual a state as nevada to immigrants? you have been unusual among democrats, i think the democrat among all the senators running for president, most likely to vote for donald trump's judges, who we know are especially hostile to dreamers and to the rights of immigrants. now, in south bend, it was not always easy to stand up in a conservative place like indiana on immigration. but we delivered. we created a municipal i.d. program so dreamers and others who were undocumented were able to navigate every day life. we stood up for those rights and stwood members of our community with the message that they were as american as we are. [ speaking spanish ]

>> senator klobuchar. >> i wish everyone was as perfect as you, pete. but let me tell you what it is like to be in the arena. number one, do the math. if my friend andrew yang was up here, that's what he would say. in fact, i have opposed, not supported, two-thirds of the trump judges. so get your numbers right. and i am in the top 10 to 15 of opposing them. number two. when it comes to immigration reform, the things that you are referring to, that official that you're referring to was supported by about half the democrats including someone in this room. and i will say this. he was highly recommended by the obama officials. do you know why? because trump had so few career people. i did not one bit agree with these draconian policies to separate kids from their parents. in my first 100 days, i would immediately change that. and i would add one more thing. i have been in the arena.

ted kennedy, he had made a pretty big allegation against me again and i think i should have a right to respond. >> these are -- those votes set you alone among the democrats. running for president. no other -- is it true or false that no other -- >> first of all, what you've said about the judges are false. you are comparing me to two colleagues up here on this stage and you are forgetting one thing. >> i would say anyone who ran. for the president this cycle. >> if you could let me finish since i've been in the arena. ted kennedy asked me to work on the first immigration bill. we were able with president bush to at least get to it a vote. i'm sorry, but senator sanders actually oppose that had bill and i worked on it. if we had gotten that bill done, there would have been a path to citizenship for so many people. then i worked on the 2013 bill. i'm so proud of the work i've done on immigration reform. and you know what? you have not been in the arena doing that work. you've memorized a bunch of talking points and a bunch of things.

but i can tell you one thing. with the people of this country want, they want a leader that has the heart for the immigrants of this country. and that is me. >> maybe leading a diverse city that was facing ruin doesn't sound like the arena to you. i'm used to senators telling mayor that's senators are more important than mayors. but this is arena, too. you don't have to be in washington to matter. you don't have to be on capitol hill -- >> guys, guys. >> we are at the end here. i have to let that one go. we are not, we are less than two weeks away from a national primary. and i want to ask all of you this simple question. a very good chance nonof you will have enough delegates. to the democratic convention to clinch this nomination. if that happens, i want all of your opinions on this. should the person with the most delegates at the end of this primary season be the nominee even if they are short of a majority? senator sanders, i'll let you go

last here. i know your view on this. so instead, i will start with you, mayor bloomberg. >> whatever the rules of the democratic party are, they should be followed. and if they have a process which i believe they do. everybody can -- >> so you want the convention to work its will. >> yes. >> senator warren. >> that means people have the delegates that are pledged to them. they keep those delegates until -- until the convention. all the people. >> all right. vice president biden? >> play by the ruse. >> the leading person with the delegates. >> no. let the process work its way out. >> not necessarily. >> senator klobuchar? >> let the process work. >> senator sanders. >> the process includes 500 super delegates on the second ballot. so i think that the will of the people should, yes. those votes -- >> five no's and a yes. >> we'll be back from las vegas after a short break. there's a company that's talked to even more real people

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it is time for our closing statements. each candidate will have one minute and we begin with senator klobuchar. >> this has been quite a debate. and what i want everyone out there watching to remember is that what unites us is so much bigger than what divides us. and that we need a candidate that can bring people with her. yes, a fired up democratic base, but also independents and moderate republicans. and i have done that every single time i have won every race down to fourth grade. a lot of boasting up here, so i thought i'd add that. secondly, you need someone who can govern. i have passed over 100 bills as the lead democratic. and third, you need someone who has the heart to be the president. they were talking a lot about heart conditions up here. we have a president right now that doesn't have a heart. i love the people of this country, and i ask for the vote of the people of nevada, because

this state gets it. they get that maybe you don't agree with every single thing that's said on this debate stage, but we understand that the heart of america is bigger than any heart that guy has in the white house. amyklobuchar.com. >> mayor bloomberg. >> you can join me at mikebloomberg.com too if you want but i'm not asking for any money. this is a manager job and donald trump is not a manager. this is a job where you have to build teams. he doesn't have teams so he makes decisions. without knows what's going on and the implications. we cannot run the railroad this way. the country has to pull together and understand that the people that we elect and it's not just the president of the united states, they should have experience. they should have credentials. they should understand what they're doing and the implications thereof and then we

should try to hold them accountable so the next time they go before the voters, if they haven't done the job, we person, gives a good speech. we should say didn't do the job and you're out of here. >> mr. mayor, thank you. >> mayor buttigieg? >> nevada, i'm asking for your vote. because america is running out of time. and this is our only chance to defeat donald trump. if you look at the choice between a revolution or the status quo, and you don't see where you fit in that picture, then join us. and yes, vote at peteforamerica.com and help out. we need to draw everybody we can who believes we need to empower workers and believes in climate science and recognizes the only way is to create a sense of belonging in this country that moves us out of the toxic and polarized moment that we are living in today. i already see an american

majority ready to do these things. now we have a responsibility to galvanize, not polarize that majority. we cannot afford to lean on the same washington play book. we cannot afford to alienate half the country. we must step forward into the future in order to win and in order to govern a country that will be facing issues, the likes of which we barely thought of just a few years ago. i'm asking you to join me so we can deliver that future together. >> senator warren. >> i grew up fighting. i grew up out in oklahoma. and i learned it probably from my mother. i watched when my daddy had a heart attack and didn't have any money coming in. when our car was lost and when we were on the edge of losing our home. i watched my mother fight to save our family. and i grew up fighting to save our family, my family. i eventually made it through school.

and my life as a teacher, looking into why so many families across this country are struggle and why it gets worse year after year. i for years have fought for unions to say the way we're going to restructure this economy is we're going to make it easier to join a union and get more power into unions. to fight for students who have been cut out of opportunity over and over because of the rising cost of an education. for me, i am i've been a politician the shorter time, but i've been the one out fighting for families the longest time. i promise you this. give me a chance. i'll go to the white house. and i'll fight for your family. >> thank you, senator. >> vice president biden. >> i'm running because so many people -- [ screaming in the audience ]

>> please give us a moment. we'll clear the room. senator biden, you have one minute. >> i'm running because so many people are being left behind. people i grew up in scranton when my dad lost his job and house and had to move. we moved and found ourselves in a position where we had little ability to get anything done. and my dad worked like hell. i learned a lot. i've been knocked down a lot. i know what it's like to be knocked down but we have to get up and provide safety and security for the american people. right here in nevada the site of the most significant mass murder in american history. guns. our kids are getting sent to school having to hide under desks, learn how to run down corridors to avoid being shot.

it's immoral. i beat the nra nationally twice. with regard to health care, it also is something that is a right. obama care has to be expanded. lastly, i think it's important that on day one, day one we deal with sending immigration bills to the desk. the only person here with the worse record on immigration here is bernie because he voted against a 2007 bill. there would be 6 million members who would be now american citizens. >> senator sanders, you have one minute. >> unfortunately other groups, latino groups, saw that bill having provisions akin to slavery, joe, but the bottom lean line is all of us are united in defeating the most dangerous president in the modern history of this country. that we agree on. but where we don't agree, i think is why we are today the

only major country on earth not to guarantee health care for all people. why three people -- when 50 0,000 people sleep out on the street. why hundreds of thousands of bright young kids can't afford to go to college and 45 million remain in student debt. bottom line here, real change never takes place from the top on down. never takes place from an oligarch controlled by billionaires. we need to mobilize millions of people to stand up for justice. that's our campaign. join us at berniesanders.com. thank you. >> senator, thank you. folks, thank you. that concludes tonight's debate. our thanks to my fellow moderators, to the candidates and of course all of you, the audience here and at home. the nevada caucuses are this saturday with the south carolina primary one week later and the big prize, super tuesday on march third. we'll follow it all for you.

i'm lester hold. good night. so begins our coverage. brian williams in new york. two ways of looking at what transpired on that stage. six people fighting for themselves. six people who over the course of two hours sometimes savaged each other and at some point someone on that stage is going to have to run against the incumbent president. sometimes at the end of what we just saw throwing in the old bromide is greater than what divides us. that dunts doesn't