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bernie hasn't passed anything. >> he's out of time. >> i'm not out of time, he spoke over time and i'm going to talk. here's the beale. >> i'm going to close the loophole that says domestic abusers can't go out and get an ak-47. >> i wrote that bill. >> you didn't write that bill. >> miss klobuchar -- >> he did honor the rules of the debate. thank you. senator klobuchar, i'd like to change topics. >> ooh. >> wow. >> whiplash watching that thing. >> on the one hand, it looks great with the theatrics of politics and fighting but the reality is does anybody understand. >> you couldn't understand what they can saying, everybody was talking over one another. >> not a lot of substance. >> it was incredible to watch, to say the least. not quite sure who the front-runner was emerging out of that, that was in fact the
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democratic presidential debate in south carolina last night. a messy, two-hour slugfest that swung widely out of control. good morning, everybody. if you're like this, you haven't slept much, i'm yasmin vossoughian, alongside ayman mohyeldin. we're going to get to that debate. first, we want to get to a stark new warning from federal health officials. the cdc said americans should prepare for the spread of the coronavirus here in the united states. top public officials say it's not so much a question of if this will happen, but, rather, when this will happen. and how many will be affected. while the cdc was issuing that new warnings the president appeared to downplay concerns while speaking with reporters yesterday. >> you asked about the coronavirus which is, you know, very well under control in our country. we have very few people with it. the people are getting better. they're all getting better.
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we brought in some americans from a ship because it was really the right thing to do. and they're quarantined. and we think they'll be in very good shape very soon. and i think that whole situation will working out, a lot of talent. a lot of brain power is being put behind it. in case you don't know, between ebola and coronavirus, a big, big difference. it's like day and night. >> with ebola, were they were quarantined and all of the americans also survived, right? >> the level of death with ebola. at the time it was virtual 100%. >> not with the americans who came here. >> there's a very good chance you're not going to die. you're talking 1% or 2%. in the other case, it was virtual 100%. they have studied it. in fact, we're very close to a vaccine. >> the white house later had to clarify some of the president's
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comments you heard there. officials say he was referring to ebola, not coronavirus, when he said we're very close to a vaccine. the fda had approved a vaccine for the ebola virus. >> at home, chad wolf was grilled by senator john kennedy about the u.s. response to the coronavirus outbreak. in fact, kennedy slammed wolf throughout the exchange for lack of answer, watch. >> how many are you anticipating -- >> again, we're working with hhs to determine that. >> how many are you anticipating? >> we do anticipate the number will grow. i don't have an exact figure, though. >> do you have an estimate? is someone bottling that, do you have any way of guessing? >> again, hhs -- through medical professionals -- >> yes, you're director of homeland security. you can't keep us safe. you can't tell us how many models you're anticipating. >> no, senator, i would defer you to health and human services for that.
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>> are you able to check on that? >> we will. >> as the head of homeland security. how is it transmitted? >> a variety of different ways, sir. >> tell me what those are. >> again, human to human. >> obviously, human to human, how? what's the mortality rate so far, worldwide? >> worldwide, i believe it's 2%. >> how much under 2%. >> i can't give you an exact figure. you're asking me a number of questions -- >> i'm asking you as the secretaries of the department of homeland security. and you're supposed to keep us safe. >> yes, sir. >> and you need to know the answers to these questions. >> pretty disconcerting to say the least. let's get back to the debate, as bernie sanders got attacked more than 30 times in the first two hour, he was hit over guns, electability, not to mention this direct challenge
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from elizabeth warren on who is best to carry the mantle into the white house. >> bernie and i agree on a lot of things but i think i would be a better president than bernie. the reason for that to get an progressive act enacted is going to be hard. it's going to take someone who will dig into the details. bernie and i wanted to rein in wall street. in 2008, we both got our chance. but i dug in, i fog the big banks, i built the coalitions and i won. bernie and i both want to see universal health care. but bernie's plan doesn't explain how to get there. doesn't show how we're going to get enough allies into it and doesn't show enough about how we're going to pay for it. i dug in, i did the work and bernie's team trashed me for it. progressives have got one shot and we need to spend is it with a leader who will get something done.
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>> vladimir putin thinks that donald trump should be president of the united states. and that's why russia is helping you get elected so you lose to him. >> oh -- let me tell mr. putin who interfered in the 2016 election, trying to bring americans against americans. hey, mr. putin, if i'm president of the united states, trust me, you're not going to interfere in any more american elections. >> i'll tell you what the russians want, they don't have a political party. they want chaos. and chaos is what is coming our way. i mean, look, if you think the last four years has been chaotic, divisive, toxic, exhausting, imagine spending the better part of 2020 with bernie sanders versus donald trump. >> you know, we talk about progressive, let's talk about being progressive. walking distance mother of emanuel church, nine people shot
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done by a white supremacist. bernie voted five times against the brady bill -- no, let me finish. and waited, and a waiting period of 12 hours. i'm not saying he's responsible for the nine deaths, but that man would not have been able to get that weapon with the waiting period. than what i suggest until you are cleared. >> joining us now from washington, d.c., white house and washington reporter for blistco daniel lipmann. daniel, great to have you with us. >> thank you. >> a bit of an intense night there for bernie sanders. what do you make about the tone of the debate? and what does it actually say about the state of the race and how everyone handles themselves? >> well, the tone was very divisive. you couldn't even hear half the candidates half the time. the moderators seemed to lose control of the action. and didn't seem to address some of the main issues that democrats want debated. so it really did not serve democrats that well. and you had so much fighting,
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basically, a lot of brawling on stage, when this is a time that democrats are deciding who to pick. and who is going to be the biggest challenger in terms of the moderate lane to bernie sanders. >> let's talk about some of these attacks that were leveled against the front-runner, senator bernie sanders. you heard from elizabeth warren basically saying i can carry this progressive mantle better than bernie sanders can. you heard from mayor pete buttigieg and you heard from vice president joe biden attacking him on his stance on guns. especially in south carolina talking about the attack on the mother of emanuel church where they lost their lives there. something very personal to people in south carolina. do you think anybody was able to chip away at senator sanders' lead on the debate take? >> i don't think they were able to substantially hurt sanders.
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it felt like -- his base is pretty loyal to him. they have been for maybe two election cycles. so, they are not going to turn away from sanders just because of a debate that many of them aren't even watching. >> his base, daniel. but what about others that are not a part of his base that are now voting in favor of him in some of these primary races? >> i still think that he came off pretty well. in terms of pure electoral politics, that he's a good debater. he didn't stumble too much. he's been doing this for decades in terms of debating and how to style your ideas. and i think his supporters like the fact that he's genuine and has a real grassroots base. and so, even if his ideas are seen as radical, he has not been able to, you know, lose much support. so if biden pulls it out in south carolina, that will be
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great for biden. but if the lead nationally is still for sanders that makes it much harder after super tuesday. >> daniel lipmann, thank you. appreciate it, my friend. still ahead, the judge overseeing the roger stone case hits back at president trump following his public comments and twitter posts. we're going to talk about the ramifications of the president's attack. plus round two of senator elizabeth warren and mike bloomberg. those stories and, of course, a check of weather when we come right back.
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u.s. district court judge amy berman jackson the judge who sentenced president trump's l g longtime friend rogerstone swung back after the comments last night. warning that his commentary about stone's conviction helped fuel threats to the jury. trump has repeatedly bashed the
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forewoman accusing her of being biased and having, quote, tainted the jury. yesterday, the judge cited the public comments and tweets as one of the decisions to clamp down on the decision for a new trial. his lawyers argued gave misleading answers in her questionnaire about her opinions on the justice department and the fbi. however during questioning in the jury selection process the woman said she could be fair and impartial. and stone's attorneys did not object to her service. now, two other jurors were called to testify at the sealed hearing yesterday, and both emphasized that they thought that the forewoman was fair and never tried to impose her views or share outside material about the case. jackson ended the hearing with a promise to rule on the motion soon. but she signaled she was leaning towards a request for a new trial. joining us legal analyst danny cevallos.
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according to blipolitico, right this forewoman in this trial, she admitted under oath over the last year, she had multiple posts about the president. but the judge admitted she is fit to serve a trial. what would be the deciding factor? >> in a post-trial position like this, the court applies a two-prong test. first they ask, was the juror willfully dishonest in his or her questionnaire. and if so, you move to the second step, if dishonest, does that provide a basis for challenge. in other words, did they have a basis to judge her bias. it's fact-specific inquiry. i know one case, where a district court found out after the fact that a juror was related to a u.s. attorney in the same u.s. attorney's office
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where the case was being prosecuted. and that was deemed still okay. the juror didn't have enough bias to rise to the level of challenging the conviction. so it's always a very fact-specific inquiry. and the key is what was in the juror's heart. sometimes, jurors are embarrassed to say they have a felony conviction, you're disqualified. many a lot are barsed to stand up in court and say, oh, yeah, i've been convicted before. it's a fact-situation. >> and let's go to judge jackson, admitting she's leaning towards a new trial for roger stone. what happens here? >> in all likelihood, stone has a turn-in date or surrender date where he will report -- >> why doesn't it happen right away like we saw with harvey weinstein, for example? >> sometimes, when you have a sentence that isn't that long, you can ask for bail continuing
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or pending your sentence. or even your appeal. that doesn't appear to be the case here. but if you're a defendant, you want to continue your bail as long as you humanly can until the judge takes it away. in this case, roger stone has indicated he wants to report and serve his sentence as soon as possible. that will benefit moving his appeal along, if he has one. oftentimes, defendants just want to get it over with. >> do you think he's going to appeal that decision? >> he'll appeal every decision. especially juror bias. it's so fact-specific. you can see an appeals court taking a different target. >> danny cevallos, always a pleasure. still ahead, disturbing new video showing a florida police officer arresting a first grader at school. that dramatic body cam footage and the story behind it coming up next. it's a true story. sales tax, different p-o-s systems in all seven countries.
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footage is sparking outrage in florida and across the country. it shows a 6-year-old student, tearfully pleading with officers to let her go as they place her under arrest. nbc's miguel almaguer has the story. >> reporter: the arrest happened inside an orlando charter school. >> come over here. >> what are those for? >> it's for you. >> reporter: the resource officer telling another officer in this video to put a 6-year-old in restraints. >> no, no, i don't want handcuffs on. no, don't put handcuffs on. help me. help me. >> reporter: the incident captured on body cam last september unfolding after staff complained the little girl was acting out. >> you don't want to? >> no, please. >> you have to. >> no, please, give me a second chance. >> reporter: the child hauled away to a squad car, begging to be let go.
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in his police report, turner said staff wanted to press charges which the school denies. the video shows employees asking if restraints are necessary. >> yes. and if she was bigger she would have been wearing regular handcuffs. >> reporter: turner then says his latest arrest is a new milestone. >> 6,000 people i've arrested. over the 28 years. 7 is the youngest. she's 8, isn't she -- >> she's 6. >> she's 6, now, she's broken the record. >> reporter: with all charges dropped for the 6-year-old, days later turner was out of a job. perhaps a bigger lesson learned at school that day. miguel almaguer. >> i'm sorry, is that a record you want to break? arresting a 6-year-old? putting them in restraints in the back of the squad car? >> honestly, i get goose bumps, nervous and angry watching a
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video like that. poor girl. having to go down -- for what? >> think about the emotional ram fin -- ramifications that child is facing. she's a 6-year-old acting out. 6 year olds act out. >> i think some of the teachers bear some responsibility as well. >> they should have spoken up even louder and made sure that did not go down. that was miguel almaguer reporting on that incredibly important story. >> let's bring in bill karins for a quick check on your weather. >> most of us are 6, usually when we form our first memories in our lives. usually, you represent something from kindergarten, right? >> that's true. we now have winter storm warnings going up. it's going to be quite a ride. a windy ride in ride in buffalo, with heavy snows and gusty winds. winter storm warnings in northern maine.
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in st. louis, chicago, it's not horrible, light snow, it's going to greet you as you get out the door. and rainy weather in south florida once again. as far as the snow, it's just rotated now over the top of the st. louis. i-70 is going to be a little slick today. the snow will develop in indianapolis during the morning. it's going to get snowy in areas like detroit as you go through your afternoon. how much snow, areas like detroit could be 2 to 3 inches, northern portions of new england and the mountains will see significant snow, 6 to 12 inches, especially areas of the adirondacks and the white and green mountains. let's time this out, as far as rain goes, not a lot. also foggy. we want travel delay in airports in new york, philly and d.c. snow in detroit. rain in pittsburgh. rain overnight in areas like southern new england. by the time you get to thursday, it's all about said and done. not a huge impacting storm but
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it will get very windy. if you have airport plans especial tomorrow in the north east, because of the winds, we will have delays. just ahead, senator bernie sanders took on the rivals with progressive policies. we'll show you some of those intense exchanges. you can catch "morning joe" with all of the msnbc hosts which we hope is us. we're back in a moment.
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welcome back, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin alongside yasmin vossoughian. we begin this half hour with the pile-on of senator bernie sanders in the democratic debate as the vermont independent defended his proposals. while candidates attack his capacity to actually lead the democratic ticket. >> let's talk about medicare for all. i'm sure you're familiar with the new study that just came out of yale university. published in lancet magazine, one of the prestigious medical journals in the world. you know what it said? medicare for all will lower health care castes in this country by $450 billion a year. and save 68,000 lives of people who otherwise would have died. what we need to do is to do what every other major country on earth does, guarantee health
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care to all people. not have thousands of separate insurance plans which are costing us some $500 billion a year to administer. our plan that we have laid out options all over the place. one of the options is the 7.5% payroll tax on employers which will save them substantial sums of money. >> the math does not add up. in fact, just on "60 minutes" this weekend, he said he wasn't going to rattle through the nickels and the dimes. and well, let me tell you how many nickels and dimes we're talking about. nearly $60 trillion. do you know how much that is for all of his programs? that is three times the american economy. not the federal government. the entire entire american economy. the medicare for all plan alone page 8 clearly says that it will take 149 million americans off their current health insurance in four years.
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that is true. >> what every study out there, conservative or progressive says, medicare for all will save money. ours will cost about $45 billion. not $60 trillion. >> if you want to keep the house in democratic hands, you might want to check with the people who actually turned the house blue. 40 democrats who are not running on your platform. they are running away from your platform as fast as they possibly can. i don't want to send those democrats back to the -- >> we have a clear choice of who's going to lead this party. and i am the only one in the new hampshire debate when asked if we had a problem with a socialist leading the ticket that raised my hands. i like bernie. we came in together to the senate. but i do not think this is the best person to lead the ticket. >> they talk about 40 democrats. 21 of those were people that i spent $100 million to help
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elect. all of the new democrats that came in, put nancy pelosi in charge and gave the congress the ability to control this president, i got them. >> mayor bloomberg has a solid and strong and enthusiastic base of support. problem is, they're all billionaires. now, if you look -- on the other hand. last 50 polls that have been done nationally, mr. bloomberg, i beat trump 47 of those 50 times. if you look at battleground states like michigan, michigan and pennsylvania polling just -- >> polls aren't the election. >> i beat trump. and if you want to beat trump, what you're going to need is an unprecedented grassroots movement of black and white and latino, native-american and asian people who are standing up and fighting for justice --
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>> anybody -- anybody in this room imagine moderate republicans going over and voting for him? you have to do that or you can't win. >> so, aside from that final exchange, senator elizabeth warren and former new york city mike bloomberg faced off in several heated exchanges last night as well. including senator warren hitting bloomberg over his record and his past donations to republican campaigns. >> you know who's going to be in charleston later this week is donald trump. he's going to be here to raise money for his buddy senator lindsey graham who funded lindsey graham's campaign for re-election last time? it was mayor bloomberg. and that's not the only right wing senator that mayor bloo bloomberg has funded. i don't care how much money mayor bloomberg has. the core of the democratic party will never trust him. he has not earned their trusts.
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i will. and the fact that he cannot earn the trust of the core of the democratic party means he's the riskest candidate standing on this stage. >> senator, i've been training for this job since i stepped in the pile that was still smoldering on 9/11. i know what to do. i've shown i know how to run the country. i've run the city almost the same size as -- bigger than most countries in the world. i'm the one choice that makes some sense. i have the experience, i have the resources and i have the record. and all of those side shows that the senator wants to bring up had nothing to do with that. >> he called me out by name and referred to what i talk about as a side show. you know, this is personal for me. when i was 21 years old i got my first job as a special education teacher. i loved that job. and by the end of the first year, i was visibly pregnant. the principal wished me luck and
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gave my job to someone else. pregnancy discrimination, you bet. but i was 21 years old. i didn't have a union to protect me. i didn't have any federal law on my side. so, i packed up my stuff and i went home. at least i didn't have a boss who said to me, kill it. the way that mayor bloomberg. >> i never said that. >> to a pregnant employee. >> oh, come on. >> people want a chance to hear -- people want a chance to hear from the women -- >> i never said that. and for the record, if she was a teacher in new york city, she would never have had that problem. >> wow, just one of the many exchanges that were really heated last night. joining us once again with his perspective on all of this from washington, d.c. white house and reporter for politico daniel lipmann. daniel, good to have you back with us. what is your reaction to the way this played out.
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the pile-on bernie sanders. >> it wasn't just against bernie sanders. it was against bloomberg as well who seemed to have done himself a little better. i think all of the candidates that are not sanders, they know that time is running very short. and if he does very well on super tuesday, it's going to be very hard to stop him. so they're throwing, you know, everything against the wall to see if anything sticks. so that's what was going on in their heads last night. but i don't think they were successful in terms of stopping his rise. although they might have, you know, diminished some of his support. >> hey, dan, you think that bloomberg, former mayor bloomberg, was able to successfully pivot from the attacks that were leveled against him, from specifically elizabeth warren who basically went after him from the jump of the debate. he was successfully able to pivot from the attacks on the policies which he's instituted,
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with regards to combatting those attacks she's leveled against him when it comes to women, et cetera? >> i think the theme that bloomberg has issues with women, that is not going away anytime soon. you know, women are a very important part of the democratic party. and so the fact that bloomberg has all of these controversies in his own partner, diane turner said get over it, in an interview this week, shows that, you know, that his campaign had to distance themselves from those comments, showed that he and his family have not really gotten a chance to get -- you know, get on the same page about all of this. and they don't seem to understand that this is a grave threat to his candidacy. >> i mean -- sorry. >> i was going to follow up with a quick thing. ask you about, just after the debate last night, i don't know if you had a chance to catch this or not, bernie sanders' campaign telling nbc news that
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his campaign essentially would reject taking mike bloomberg's money in the general election, something he's committed to doing which is help the democratic party win the white house regardless if he's nominee or not. do you think that is detrimental to the democratic party if they are facing off against president trump and the lead candidate or nominee saying i don't want the money of somebody like mike bloomberg? >> that's a real problem for democrats. and they would be telling sanders, if he is the nominee, let's not reject any help, it's not like bloomberg's money is going to turn off many voters if it's used for sanders. and i think along with democrats pressuring him to pick a moderate vp like klobuchar, i don't think, you know, he's going to be very popular he turns down that money. although it might be a good excuse to turn off the faucet. >> thanks. still ahead, president trump
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accused an attack on the supreme court of two liberal justices and that they recruiuse themsel. and the key when it comes to handling national security. your "first look" on "morning joe" coming right back.
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the 17 spy agencies that report to him. on february 14th, pierson had briefed the house on a classic hearing on russian interference. days after pierson's briefing president trump removed the previous acting director of national intelligence joseph mcgwire and replaced him with grenell, a loyalist, with no prior experience as an intelligence official. soon after his appointment, grenell ousted the number two person in the office of national intelligence. >> and justice sonia sotomayor and ruth bader ginsburg, in india, telling him to refrain from attacks. >> i just don't know they cannot recuse themselves for anything having to do with trump or trump-related. i think it was a terrible statement for a supreme court
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justice. i think what she did say, the way i look at it, trying to shame people into perhaps a different view of voting her way. what justice sotomayor said yesterday was highly inappropriate. everybody agrees to that. virtually everybody, i've seen papers on it. people cannot believe she said it. >> his comments come after justice sotomayor chrriticized some of her justice for reportedly siding with the trump administration. trump tweeting out this is a terrible thing to say, trying to shame some into voting her way. and while elections have consequences, i only ask for fairness, especially when it comes to decisions made by the united states supreme court. now sotomayor's dissent to provoke trump came after the supreme court in a 5-4 ruling allowed the trump administration public charge rule to go effect.
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let's get a check on weather once again with nbc meteorologist bill karins. good morning again. >> good morning. the northeast is going to have travel delays as you go throughout the next two days. we're starting with snow in the midwest this morning. and the windy conditions will arrive at this time tomorrow. so far today, detroit, the airport, could have delays because of snow. cleveland because of snow and windy conditions later on today. we do have foggy weather out there from new york all the way to d.c. this morning. that could cause minor problems. driving in st. louis, all the way to indianapolis, i-70, a little light snow. a little slippery. tomorrow morning, as the storm rockets its way out of here, on the backside, the winds will howl, new york city airports, boston to portland, that's where we could be seeing the issues with the wind, and significant airport delays maybe even a few cancellations. as far as the snow, it's not a
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blockbuster event. as advertised, we haven't had many big snowstorms. this may be the possibility of 1 to 3 feet to snow towns north of syracuse, new york, up there, coming off of lake erie and lake ontario. multiple bands areas from cleveland to erie to buffalo driving late tonight to tomorrow morning could be a little treacherous. 40-mile-per-hour and 50 mild gusts including much of pennsylvania, mid-atlantic, d.c., and new york city. through 3:00 p.m. thursday. be prepared for a very windy thursday and the temperatures will be getting cooler, too. your forecast for today. obviously, temperatures are warm in many areas in the east. we've been watching temperatures well above average from new york city to the northeast. that will continue throughout the day today. we're still going to end up, we'll have to wait and see, with a couple days willest in february. we're still looking at one of the top-five warmest februarys
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coronavirus fears continue to plague wall street as the dow experienced its worst two day percentage loss in two years. cnbc's willem marx joins us from loppeden. two days rough for the markets because of coronavirus. how are we looking today? >> well, that's in the u.s. of course. we've seen in asia today, ayman, they have been all closing much, much lower, similar story so far in trading in europe. looking ahead to when the u.s. markets reopen they are also expected to open lower. so we could see some more losses for stocks today. there's been concern because of what's happening here in europe in particular, we have had this outbreak in italy, ten towns there still in the quarantine,
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more cases spreading south of the country. we have hotels in countries like austria and spain on lockdown because of patients diagnosed there. big european companies also reporting concerns about their earnings potential because of coronavirus. one big u.s. corporate story reshuffling walt disney, bob iger has been the ceo for almost 15 years he's stepping back, he will become executive chairman in charge of all the entertainment efforts until his contract expires. a man bob chapek he will be stepping up to the ceo role. democratic presidential candidate mike bloomberg facing criticism last night at the debate and at the previous debate for his nondisclosure agreements when it comes to sexual harmtment. his company announcing they will have mandatory training programs instituted to prevent harassment, they will have a zero tolerance policy for that. all employees there will be required to complete the program which was initially introduced last year. they are announcing that just ahead of the debate last night.
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>> why is it always after the fact sometimes with this sort of thing? he is called out on the stage -- >> especially with the me too movement. >> this should have been done years ago. the same thing happened with stop and frisk, he is called out about stop and frisk and apologizes for it after the fact. >> sorry, went on a tangent there. music sales reaching their highest point in more than a decade in 2019. what can you tell us about this? >> so they surged 13% over the course of the last year to $11.1 billion that's sales in the u.s. this is thanks to companies like spotify, apple music. we have seen streaming account for 80% of overall music revenue for 2019, that's according to the recording industry association of america, a trade group for record companies. it's the fourth year in a row of revenue growth for the music industry in the u.s. don't forget just a decade ago we were talking about declines because of the digitization of
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music, here we are seeing that digitization allowing that growth. >> i'm old enough to remember the transition from cassettes to cds and everyone saying with the napster stuff music is over. >> and a lot of artists were suing over it. >> good news for the artistes. >> still making money, don't worry. >> and still making music. >> that's the more important thing. >> willem marx, live from london. appreciate it. up next a live report from south carolina where joe biden's campaign hopes to maintain his support. coming up on "morning joe" more from last night's heated democratic debate as candidates pile on front runner bernie sanders ahead of this weekend's primary contest. plus 2020 democratic senator amy klobuchar will be our guest. "morning joe" just moments away. . going new places! going out for a bite! going anytime.
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>> higher ups are like don't give them any ideas. >> reporter: i had a fried oyster in charleston this week. >> let's talk about last night's debate. did it have any impact so far on biden's push to protect his fire wall in south carolina? >> reporter: well, certainly the conventional wisdom among us talking heads in the last 12 hours seems to have coalesced around the idea that this was one of his strongest debates. one question and you guys were talking about this at the top is just how much voters were able to discern from the chaotic scene really on the debate stage of course, but what we saw from joe biden tonight certainly with so much on the line here in south carolina in this fire wall was two main goals in mind, first we saw him doing everything he can to reinforce his support among the african-american vote, three out of five voters on saturday will be african-american voters, he went right to the gun issue, a few blocks from here mother emanuel church talking about all the work he's done on preventing
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gun violence and taking steps to strengthen background checks and the like going after bernie sanders. the other thing we saw promising as well to nominate the first african-american woman to the supreme court. he was successful in that regard. but we know that certainly bernie sanders is the long-term problem for him. michael bloomberg is the super tuesday problem for him. his near term problem is tom steyer. you also saw him take the very first opportunity he could to try to knock him down on the issue of private prisons. so mission accomplished in that regard. >> mike bloomberg was also on the defensive last night as the field turned its focus towards the former mayor, you saw a little bit of our program dedicated to elizabeth warren going after him. could bloomberg's second debate stage performance do you think affect next month's super tuesday contests? >> reporter: well, certainly i think he had a stronger performance than his first debate, but that ain't saying much, right? >> right. >> reporter: the big problem for joe biden, you know, has been michael bloomberg's emergence
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into the field, spending all that money in super tuesday states and sort of the stronger michael bloomberg is in super tuesday the harder it is for certainly joe biden and the other moderate, you know, lane candidates in this race to survive and to have a chance to knock bernie sanders off. so, you know, in terms of whether this will knock off michael bloomberg, he's going to still be spending a lot of money. what was important for joe biden and his campaign was saying he had his strongest online fundraising performance last night. he needs -- he desperately needs that to be able to compete. no one else is on the air in super tuesday states, amy klobuchar just a little bit. so anybody who is able to get on the air now off of strong debate performance last night is helpful in countering michael bloomberg's advantage so far. >> thanks, mike. that does it for us on this wednesday morning. i'm yasmin vossoughian alongside ayman mohyeldin. "morning joe," everybody, starts right now. i'm hearing my name mentioned a little bit tonight.

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