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i'm going to see you right back here at 3:00 p.m. eastern. "deadline white house" with nicolle wallace begins right now. ♪ hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in washington d.c. a majority of americans woke up today with front-page news from centers for disease control warning the coronavirus is on the brink of, quote, an inevitable spread that threatens american's every day lives, adding to mounting anxiety in this country and around the world, today new reports of fatalities. there's also a new accusation from donald trump that the media is, quote, doing everything posable to make the coronavirus look as bad as possible, including panicking markets. the president announcing a press conference that starts a little over two hours from now and its too address the growing crisis. it also comes in breaking
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reports in noim "the new york times" on just where the president's -- trump is highly concerned about the market and has encouraged aids not to give predictions that might cause further tremors. privately trump has become furious about the stock market slide. "the new york times" add as warning to donald trump and his public focus on quieting the stock market. quote, there's also the risk the administration's focus on the optics of the market distracts them from trying to protect from the putenshal spread of disease and loss of life that would accompany a global pandemic. and one expert describes the effort this way. this is like trying to control the wind. we'll see serious problems in the u.s. and no amount of political rhetoric will over-trump the science of what we have here. there's world documented --
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there's a world documented record of donald trump trying to bend science to his political will. who can forget the president's sharpy-altered map showing the path of hurricane dorian headed to alabama. and this illustrates the alarm that created within the government agency responsible for issuing those warnings. neal jacobs wrote, quote, you have no idea how hard i'm fighting to keep politics out of siensz. science. the question today will congress demand answers from government leaders fighting to keep politics politics out of science with american lives at risk? here at the table an advisor to the biden campaign and former ebola response coordinator. and campaign director for american progress action fund
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and spokesman for injustice department, matt miller and former assistant director at the fbi, frank figliuzzo. and phil rutger, i mean, your paper has incredible reporting on what we might be able to into it at this point, that the president's focus is not the humanitarian potential for disaster, which is ties to the performance of the stock market. take me through what you have reported and anything that's happened later this evening. >> the president has been fixated on the decline of the stock market and it's become ingrained in him that strength of the economy is his ticket to re-election. so, he's very focussed on the economic impact of the coronavirus much more so than the state of the public health problem itself. even though they've been trying
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to get their hands on this crisis. but it is indeed a problem and a challenge for him because he's been at war with science, with facts for all three years of this presidency. he's gone after the budgets of some of these agencies. he's tried to diminish the power of some of the public health and science officials and this is a moment he needs them and their expertise and we're going to see at 6:00 what he has to say to the american people about the threat ahead. >> i thought about the depictions of president trump when i thought about what trump alone in his head might be wrestling with. the two most primal instincts that have driven every utternc, to boost the stock market and the desire to shut the boarder down when there's any risk from anything outside. how do you foresee those two
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forces clashing in the coming weeks? >> i hate to make predictions, nicolle, and you're certainly right about the pattern here. this is a president who looks inward, who tries to cut out foreigners, who has repeatedly tried to shut the boarder. he passed that travel ban early in the first few days of his presidency. and i don't know what's going to come over the next few days in terms of the decisions he might be making but his instinct is to look and protect americans and reach outward and have a more international response like the kind we saw from the obama administration. >> basically donald trump has addressed his extensive public comments on ebola. he advocated keeping and blocking and closing the boarders and keeping american doctors and nurses, really the
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best among us to reach victims of ebola. he said he won't respond the same way because ebola is more deadly. what is, to you sort of the risk landscape for people who have to travel to work, for people whose families come in and out of the country. what is the nonhysterical reality check on trying to navigate life if it involves travel with a president who, any morning could wake up, see something on fox news and tweet something alarming? >> first, i see linked to this question of how americans are going to deal with this and their domestic lives. it's linked, unfortunately, to trust. in other words, we're going to get our information from this administration. and the problem now is our institutions have been attacked so severely and so frequently by this administration that we're
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going to have difficulty trusting the information we're being provided. so, getting the right information and trusting it is the key to making the right decisions for corporations, for families and others. the second filter i see here, because that's how i look at the world, is national security. we're beginning to hear reports of u.s. troops, u.s. military member in south korea, for example, becoming ill with this. dependence of troop members becoming ill. if this starts to impact our fighting capability, troop readiness, if it moves to the first responder community, paramedics, emts, it becomes a national security issue and right back the trust factor, we need trust the information we're going to get tonight from the president, from the cdc and we need own this. he needs own it. it's a bit like the boy who cried wolf fable. for wr no one's going to listen
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to you. he needs restore that trust tonight and i hope he can do it. >> i guess what you've set up is what is already underway. so close he awarded him the presidential medal of freedom. rush limbaugh is on the war path, accusing the sister of rod rosen steen who served as the dep outy attorney general, as being part of a conspiracy to tank the markets. we're already in a situation where the information has been tainted, if not contaminated by trump's very powerful, in terms of reaching trump's base calling into question people's ability to trust information from the cdc? >> politicizing of intelligence was bad enough. the attacks on our justice system, court system bad enough. but we cannot afford to pliticize public health,
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particularly if a pandemic is on our doorstep. i have been a part of mass distribution, of medication plans, setting up distribution centers. the american people need to understand, the plans are in place, regardless of administration and who's in charge. career professionals have rehearsed. the problems with this one, as your scientists far better than me will tell you is we don't have a vaccine for this. we're not even certain how to properly test for this or the nature by which it spreads. that's the unknown factor this administrations to the focus on to gain the public trust. >> and to bring this back to the facts because that's what you dealt in when you had this role in the white house. the fact is the cdc warned yesterday that a spread in this country is inevitable. and that's what's been attacked.
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i guess my concern is if we can't even communicate as two halves of this incredibly polarized hole of a country about what is coming, no one told anyone what to do, not to travel, no one said to shop or not shop, not to go to school. they just -- the cdc simply gave the information to the american public that is inevitable coronavirus will spread in this country. >> trump's strategy this far has been to happy thauk virus. and the virus is not going to respond to happy talk. they're not going it respond to it's all fine, i have the boarder sealed. you can't seal the boarders. this virus has spread around the world. it's a question of when it comes here. that's what the cdc was saying yesterday. and larry kudlow's efforts to stand there and say no one should worry is not going to stop the virus.
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what it does do is undermines the professional communications of our public health official whose are trying to provide reliable, credible information to people. and the problem is will trump start to intimidate those officials? will they try to brush them back from telling the american people the truth? and that's when it gets dangerous, if that instinct takes over. >> in some ways this was inevitable. he started by attacking the intelligence community, lying about his crowd size. he then waged a year's long war on law enforcement. and deep into the military justice system. he meddled with hurricane forecasts, of all things. i think for anyone looking for the bottom has stopped the search. but on the brink of a possible global pandemic his closest
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allies and friends would be smearing health officials is stunning. how does the public navigate around that? >> i think the public has to be able to rely on what the public health officials -- these are nonpartisan experts. they serve democratic and republican presidents. many worked in the bush administration. >> on bird flu. >> these people have been trustsed by presidents in both parties. they need to be able to do their job without interference from the president. and that's what's at stake here. all this really goes to the president's worst instincts put together, his rejection of science, rejection of expertise. it takes the bureaucracy to fight something like this. people trump derives as the deep state. they're going to save lives in this situation. he needs to be able to trust them and let them do their jobs. >> the other thing revealed,
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other than the president's craven nature and any calamity that puts this at risk is the hollowing out of the government. he's got a 29 year old and a college senior in charge of personnel. they're going to protect people from coronavirus? >> there's no confirmed leadership of department of homeland security and he's undermined the credibility of these institutions. the problem is there is no one public right now. you have public who have support ofrz donald trump and the rest of us who have watched the president lie about everything year after year after year and aren't going to believe what the president says. i think a crisis of this nature was always go being the biggest chal tooc challenge to donald trump's style of management because he's constitutionally incapable of following the first rule of how to hand alcrisis. the messages you've seen the
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last few day, what he called trying to happy talk the crisis will come back to undermine what he said because people are going to see the truth. and this is one of the place wheres the reality distortion field he's been able to cast meets an end because if donald trump says this -- and the stock market drops or the boarders are sealed and schools are cancelled because people can't come to school, people are going to notice that. and people are laid off because the supply chain of their comp rein hurt, they're going to notice that. this is where his focus on the short-term news cycle will undermine his ability to manage this in the long term. >> and the buffer his base receives. everyone that's a mama and has a baby is looking for good, trusted information and i don't care if you have maga tattooed
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across your chest. the you want good information to make decisions about whether to send your kids on field trips. >> and you want a president that's going to keep you safe and i think he's created an on ramp to chaos. fired the senior director of health security and gutted the national security council's health security team. there's no infrastructure in place in the white house. and 4 billion in cuts to cdc and nih. he's setting us up for a loss. this transsends partisanship. this is about people who want to feel safe and at home and our entire country is at risk. >> he has an opportunity to restore funding to appoint someone like a tony fouchy who came up as a pioneering -- i mean, bho who's already in the
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government and trusted across the political divide. can't say that about too many people anymore. you can empower someone and try to take this out of politics. any chance that will happen? or are you going to ask what's in my cup? >> look, i think we should hesitate before prejudging what he's going to do tonight. certainly there's behavior important to look at and it's going to get worse over the next few days probably before it gets any better and he's going to face a series of tests beginning with how he talks about the crisis and what sort of instructions is he giving the millions of people around the country who are going to be looking for looking for good, credible and truthful inspiration. and does he do this by accusing senator schumer of going after him and playing up the coronavirus.
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or does he really take a more sober approach and fulfill that kind of commander in chief presidential role? i don't know. there's a pattern of behavior in the past to suggest what he's going to do but we'll have to see. >> it's the right point to phil rutger. but to do something different than pliticize science, like with the hurricane or assail the deep state, like rush limbaugh did for him today, would require a change in behavior. donald trump's closest friends say he ain't changing. not to rule out the possibility he's had a total conversion. we always have this forever fantasy that ivanka will go to him and -- but this is a story that even more than the democratic primary, which has captured the imagination of political junkies, this is a story on people's mind.
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>> yeah, it's going to stay there. what i'll say is even if -- no matter what's in my cup, he does the right thing tonight. and by the way, that would be to name a responsibility person. >> restore funding. >> and the former head of the fda. and the question is what does he do the day after or the day after? you put someone in charge. will they be listened to? will they listen to scientific advice? what's going to happen at 6:00 is important but let's see what happens 6:00 the day after and the day after. >> what should they do to keep their families safe? >> cdc.gov, reliable information. shows what people can do in their personal lives. the basic things you to do stay
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safe. don't cough on people. one other thing they can do right now, which is go pick up dinner in chinatown. the level of discrimination against chinese americans is escalating. that's something a leader should speak to. this virus effects humans, not of a racial group or background. we're going to see an escalation of antichinese bigotry. >> i'm old enough to remember a president going to a mosque. jump back in front of that camera. >> we know how to reach you. after the break, a big endorsement for joe biden from a political giant ahead of the musz-win contesting for the former vp and a new poll showing him comfortably ahead.
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this country what it is. my good friend, my late wife's great friend, joe biden. i know joe. we know joe. but most importantly joe knows us. >> that's an endorsement. former vice president joe biden receiving the coveted endorsement in south carolina from congressman jim clyburn a beloved figure and a state he seems to be banking it all on. after starting strong, the lead has narrowed a bit after three solid performances. his endorsement could give bideen the boost he needs. right now he still hold as large lead over steyer and sanders.
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made appeals last night. >> everyone should be represented, everyone -- and no one's better than me is i'm no better than anyone else. the fact is what we should be doing. i'm looking forward to making sure there's a black woman on the supreme court. i've worked like the devil to earn the vote of the african-american community. i'm there ask and earn it. but folks, i intend to win south carolina and i will win the african-american vote here in south carolina. >> so f y, if you are a biden supporter and you've been on a roller coaster, last night was the night you could really feel like he was all the things you knew he was. he delivered a strong performance, he showed himself to be the statesman. i mean, this is such an insider thing but there are debate rules that govern your time limits and
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he kept stopping. it's like the time of trump. i just thought he was able to show case, whether he was trying to or not l the people who support and like him thought about him. >> obviously, i'm a biden supporter. i thought we had a good night last night. >> they haven't all been good. >> they have not been as good as last night's was. he was talking to people he really connects with and that's people in south carolina. spent a lot of time down there over the years and a place he's worked hard on the recovery act to create jobs, the port of charleston. so, he was at home and the comfort in the presentation and the connection the audience had and you stack on top of that the endorsement from congressman clyburn, it's been a good couple of days in south carolina. >> is it true biden campaign isn'ted atizing in any super
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tuesday sfats? >> the trump super pack is in south carolina using a fake brock obama voice trying to attack joe biden. and what you're seeing is the -- the same thing we're seeing everywhere. they're trying to stop him in south carolina. i don't think it will work. i think biden is going to win there. he's going to deliver a strong win on saturday. >> i assume that strategically one of the greatest threats to biden's viability is the strong showing bernie had in nevada among some of the communities he struggled four years ago. let me show you the whole field turning on sanders last night. >> i think i would make a better president than bernie and the reason for that is getting a progressive agenda enacted is going to be really hard and it's
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going to take someone who digs into the details to make it happen. >> he voted five times against the brady bill. >> vladimir putin thinks he should be -- >> it was tough but it was the first time those attacks were directed at sanders in a concerted way. >> welcome to frontrunner status. he was taking heat from all sides, whether it's on his effectiveness as a leader, previous votes on gun violence prevention, a whole host of things and what i think sanders responded well. he held his own. did he crumble under the pressure? absolutely not. ba back to biden and his ability to move in south carolina, i agree. he's at home here and recognized older african-americans are going to shore up support for him. who he doesn't have is younger
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african-american voters who bernie sanders appeals to. and that's where we're going to see the disconnect in his ability to secure the entire african-american voting block in south carolina. i think we're going to see that margin narrow but i do see biden pulling off one in south carolina this weekend. >> i asked joe biden this and i've asked you this. stipulate that biden has a great saturday and wins. then what? they're not on the air in super tuesday. seems like you have to do more than have that victory and display of support from arguably the most important part of the democrat's winning coalition. where do you win again? >> i think they have to do well in super tuesday. they have to come in first and second in most of the states. after coming in second in nevada, they were talking about a biden bounceback. i was skeptical. after seeing the performance
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last night and the endorsement, looks like he's going to win south carolina. across super tuesday, he's probably going to win or come in second in a number of those states. by a week from now 18 states will have voted. some of the candidates need to ask them selselves what are the still doing in the race? i think by next week you haven't won a state, you shouldn't be in the race anymore. >> you talking about amy klobuchar and elizabeth warren. >> tom steyer. mike bloomberg. this is not just true for the never bernie crowd. there's one purse -- bernie sanders ought to want a narrower field too. because he ought to win the nomination with a majority of delegates going the convention. if he limps in with a plurality because so many have stayed in,
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he's won with 40% of the delegates, that's a distraction up to the delegate. and i think some of the other leaders in the party need start calling for these campaigns to take stock of where they are and why they're still in. >> leadors of the party, do you still have them? >> we do. i think elections should be won at the ballot box. and i think these candidates are going to make their case on tuesday. if money matters, mike bloomberg is going to win on tuesday. this is a decision voters are making about who is going to be their champion to take on trump in the fall. i think sanders and biden are going to run strong. 18 states will have voted by tuesday. 32 have not. this is going to go on for a while. the field will thin out. i think vice president biden and
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the last four years has been chaotic, divisive, toxic, exhausting, imagine spending the better part of 2020 with bernie sanders verses donald trump. think about what that will be like for this country. there's a majority of the american people who i think right now just want to turn on the tv, see their president and actually feel their blood pressure go down a little bit instead of up through the roof. we have an opportunity to set a different tone. >> and for lowering my blood pressure, last night was another strong debate for the former south bend mayor who kept the big picture in mind on what's at stake if democrats aren't successful with another four years of chaos. so, i've got to ask you is the breaking buttigieg news that former fox news anchor and donald trump have mayor pete as
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their second ballot choice? is that what i'm reading on twitter? i'm 100 points real trump all the way but if i had to live ain america with one of the dems, mayor pete and trump said i can live with that. maybe you can shed lighten the seeming favor of pete buttigieg among eric and donald trump. >> reporter: on the drive over from charleston, i was with my producer colleague, matt and i was like is this actually the twitter handle? >> i'm like your mom. i'm like banging on it. the buttigieg campaign sends the tweet over. i guess we're going for it.
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all it looks like he's endorsed mayor pete and suggest he willingly turn over the white house in january 2021 if it comes to that. pete buttigieg, at this point, has to win the democratic nomination. this tuesday is a big deal. they put out a memo saying they need keep sanders within 350 delegate margin because they're contending march 10th and march 17th are better states for them. these are states like illinois, michigan, missouri, arizona, washington state, idaho. so, they believe if they can remain in contention through super tuesday and keep bernie sanders close, that they are the ones most viable to be the counter to bernie sanders. just yesterday they went up with a $3.5 million ad buy, targeting specific media markets. they're trying to win delegates in places like denver or
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norfolk, these very intentional places over the next week. >> you know, it's a point pete buttigieg made with our colleague, chris matthews i want to play for all of you. >> i mean, different districts have different stories but what's consistent is not one of the 40 democrats who have flipped those seats in the last election are supporting senator sanders or his platform. they're running away from it because they know how much trouble it will be for them. >> i know nancy pelosi responded she thought bernie sanders could keep the house but it's a potentially powerful message from mayor pete. >> i wouldn't say from mayor pete. verses the frontline members who did flip red districts. what i do think pete's missing in the exchange is selling himself forward. even the frame on the debate stage, painting the picture of a
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trump verses sanders, divisive, chaotic time, doesn't add points to his roster. that's something he has to fine tune especially taking this surgical approach. >> the best message is you can't win and i think the mayor delivers it well because unlike other candidates, he has a message of change but it's, as he would say a message inclusive, not exclusive. he still has not been able to address what seems to be the fatal flaw in his candidacy and that's the ability to attract people of support. he needs eric holder to come forward and endorse him and vouch for him in a way because absent that, it's hard to see how he increases his support. if you're at 2% with black voters, which i think he was, you are not going to win the democratic nomination for president.
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>> you know, i wonder what that campaign says about matt's criticism. because it's one i've heard a lot, especially recently. >> reporter: this is not where the campaign wanted to be when it comes to supported of voters of color. they really believe the results would not only show in the polls but, on election day and they did it in nevada. it was a conversation i had with a voter in the rural part of the state. and she told me it takes a while for us to like you. you have to prime the prump. the question is as the year of pete buttigieg trying to introduce himself to the entire region enough time? and i think that's the reality here is he finds himself struggling to garner that support. this morning was with reverend al sharpton and talked about humility, saying he understands he can't understand what it's
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like the be a young black man growing up and when the lights turn on, the red and blue lights turn on behind you, what that's like but the least he can do is listen. and i'll recall four years ago, you'll remember bernie sanders struggled quite mightily. so, it may not happen this saturday. >> right. we love having you. er for -- thank you for spending time with us, my friend. the president's war on the rule of law has morphed into something darker. we'll go inside the court room where one woman, amy berman jackson stands as a guardrail.
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donald trump's multi-day assault and smear campaign on the poor woman in the roger stone trial prompted one of her fellow jurors to take the extraordinary step of defending her in a "washington post" op-ed, quote, there's no factual basis to say that the stone jury was tainted and slowing us down and advocating on behalf of the rights of the defendant. roger stone received a fair trial. they requested a do over saying the forewomen gave misleading
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answers during jury selection. a process during which stone's team raised no objection to her participation. frank, this seems to be f y, if look around the corner, more primer for a pardoning, no? >> he is laying the groundwork for a pardon. it's coming. it's a question of timing and whether it happens immediately after the election in november or not. i want to point something out about attacking jurors that's troubling. about a third of your viewing audience has served on a jury. and when the president attacks jurors, he's attacking good, old american citizens of all stripes who are just simply answered the call and tried to get it right. as an fbi agent i've gotten with
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prosecutors after a trial into the jury room to to chat and see what their opinion was and you can see in their eyes how seriously they take this duty, perhaps for some of them the most serious duty they've ever been called to. and for the president to attack jurors is expanding. the circle is complete. he's attacked investigators, judges, he's attacked prosecutors and now american citizens who simply get called up and tray to do the right thing. about a third of us have done it. and he's wrong on this issue and it could come back to haunt us. >> all of the things to not allow as a new normal stand, is attacks on jurors. it's a hardship to serve on a jury. it's anather to make people scared to serve on juries. >> there are two things i find disturbing. one is when you see the op-ed
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defending the forewomen, it's incredible that a regular citizens to the come forward and do that. the justice department is not out there after barr saying it's making my job hard. >> can we stick with the first thing? i was with you on the boo he interview. so, boo hoo, so sad trump won't let me do my job. he's attacked two women on the supreme court and he's gone after jurors in a federal trial. >> and that gets to the point about the second thing that concerns me. jury being attacked all over the press. it wasn't long ago where a deranged supporter of the president tried to mail pipe bombs to members of the media. there are a lot of deranged people and don't know how to
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separate fiction from reality. members of the media have -- regular jurors, they're getting mail at home. they can be threatened, leader of the country >> and it's shocking for a president, frank figliuzzo, but behavior we're used to seeing about behavior in mob families. what does it say to you he's roughi roughing up.
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politico today reports, quote, the white house has hired a college senior to be a top official in the powerful presidential personnel office. james bacon, 23, the ppo director of operations overlooking paper work and the role previously filled by a woman in the late 70s and a veteran in the office in both bush administrations and the ragan administration. everyone is back. >> young people are the future and should be recruited into every white house but this office makes decision of people to run agency this is affect millions of people's lives. >> massive budgets and the direction of our country and no shade to this young gentleman but -- >> none at all?
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>> it is not his fault. the administration needed someone to blindly do whatever they told him. this is scraping the barrel and goes with the goal of identify anyone anti-trump in the political appointees and having someone like this, i'll do whatever you ask me, yes, i'll do blindly and faithfully. i mean, just shows the intention of the administration. >> reporting to an individual fired by the last or a couple chiefs of staff ago for his own vetting problems. >> michael del started a multimillion dollar computer company out of his dorm room so maybe he is a protege but he's there to help the administration to purge people that the president perceives to be political enemies and by purge people, the political appointees. >> hand selected by him. >> by the political appointees. >> correct. >> you know, look. the entire thing is disturbing.
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"mpt daily" with chuck todd starts now. ♪ welcome to hump day. "meet the press daily." in washington president trump will speak at the white house in an athe effort to address concerns about the spread of the coronavirus coming as the administration appears to be sending mixed messages about the severity of the threat and how prepared we are for dealing with it. we'll have more on that story later
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