majority of the support. >> thank you both. >> happy birthday. >> that's "all in" for this evening. >> not yet. >> good evening, rachel. >> thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. an hour ago the president accounted a press briefing in the white house briefing room, flanked by his administration's top public health officials. it was an update for the public on the administration's response to the coronavirus. this is unusual on a lot of levels. the base logistical level, this is a white house that doesn't actually do press briefings. so you can see that the room was packed full of reporters for this unusual event tonight, people squished in there like sardines. and partly, yes, because this is a very important issue and the president was going to speak on it, but it also ever since the white house canceled regular press briefings, the press doesn't get in "m" chances to gather in the briefing room and

ask white house officials or administration officials any questions at a formal briefing. as recently as yesterday, really up through today, it wasn't clear at all who was in charge of the u.s. government's response to the coronavirus crisis. as recently as this afternoon the white house was specifically insisting that they were not going to put a so-called czar a coronavirus czar in charge of the effort the way, say, the obama white house had done for the ebola crisis. white house was insisting as of this afternoon that donald trump's health and human services secretary, alex aczar, was doing such a great job leading the effort, that's how things would continue, no reason to bring anybody else in, we can handle this through regular order, everything is fine. that was the line from the white house as of this afternoon. it changed as of tonight when the president announced that vice president mike pence will be the czar taking charge of the

coronavirus response. the president saying tonight that mike pence is uniquely suited to this role because of his amazing stewardship of public health in the state of indiana when he was governor there. boy, do i have some stories to tell you about indiana governor mike pence as a public health icon. we have covered that topic extensively on this program, including the very unusual, very alarming hiv outbreak that happened under his stewardship in indiana. i could go on, but i digress. tonight the president appeared alongside his new coronavirus czar/not czar, vice president mike pence and tony fall whickh also ann shukt, prince director at the cdc, centers for disease control. two serious people in this field. watching this very unusual

briefing tonight, it was a little bit like there were two different stories being told. even from the podium even at this one event. >> what every one of our experts and leaders have been saying for more than a month now remains true. the agree of risk has the potential to change quickly and we can expect to see more cases in the united states. >> we do expect more cases, and this is a good time to prepare. as you heard, it's the perfect time for businesses, health care systems, universities, and schools to look at their p pandemic preparedness plans, dust them off and make sure they're ready. >> the message is pretty clear, everybody on the same page, government's top health officials saying we expect there to be more cases of coronavirus in this country. there will be more cases here. that is good time to prepare for that. dust off those pen democr-- pan

preppedness plans. almost every one of our leaders. >> we have a total of 15 people and they're in a process of recovering with some already having fully recovered. >> we're at that very low level and we want to keep it that way, so we're at the low level. as they go to better, we take them off the list so that we're going to be pretty soon at only five people. and we could be at just one or two people over the next short period of time. again, when you have 15 people and the 15 with an couple days is going to be down to close to zero, that's a pretty good job we've done. >> i know people just said we will definitely have new cases, but as far as i'm concerned, we're only at 15, basically it's going to be five any day now, then it's going to be one or two over the next short period of time. we'll be pretty close to zero.

we're already almost at zero. we're dining good job, right? i mean, literally the nation's top health officials are squeezed in next to him in this crowded room saying we all agree there's definitely going to be more cases, this is the time to prepare. nevertheless, at that same podium, there's the president saying, oh, pretty sure we're going to be at zero. we're basically fixing this already. it's done. we're at 15 cases now and it's going to nothing. by the way, when he says there are 15 cases in the united states, when you ask the cdc how many cases of coronavirus there are in the united states, they say there are 60, not 15, but 60. the difference is that the president is just not counting the other 45 americans who are in quarantine right now after having tested positive for the virus, americans who were brought home from china and put

on a cruise ship and put into quarantine. he's not counting them. president trump reported that those americans were brought home, so maybe it's easier for him to pretend they don't count. so with the rose-colored glasses off, the landmark news, it seems, in terms of the virus in the united states today is actually this. as the president was convening this press conference today, authorities confirmed the first case of coronavirus in the united states where they have no idea how the person got infected. the patient is apparently in northern california. we don't know more specifically where the person is or for that matter who the person is. but an episode deem logical terms, what's landmark about this new case is that this is a person who did not recently frurp traveling from a foreign country. this is not a person who is known to have had contact with anybody who recently traveled in

a foreign country. there's, in fact, no apparent contact that this person has had that explains why he or she has now come down with the coronavirus in northern california, but the person nevertheless has tested positive. that makes this the first person in the united states with coronavirus of unknown origin. this northern california landmark patient is the 60th person in the country overall who is known to be infected. president says it's soon to be zero. the cdc says they have now started contact tracing for this patient to figure out how this person may have been infected, who else might have been exposed either in the same way or by this person who is now diagnosed with the virus. a similar rubicon was crossed in the nation of germany today. health minister in germany today convened a news conference to announce coronavirus in germany is now in his words moving to a new phase because in germany, as

of today, apparently like us, they now have new cases of the virus that can't be traced to any particular cause or patients haven't traveled themselves to china or other foreign are patients who haven't been exposed to anybody who has done that kind of travel. these are cases of the virus in germany and apparently here that are now of unknown origin, and that's important according to the epidemiologists. germany and france and croatia and austria and switzerland all announced new cases of the virus today. france today announced its first death from coronavirus. brazil today announced its first case and that marks the first time coronavirus has been found in latin america. brazil is in the middle of their carnival celebrations which, of course, bring a lot of people together. greece announced its first case today. romania announced its first case today. the nation of georgia announced its first case today.

the nation of pakistan announced its first two cases today. pakistan today closed its national border with iran. in iran, as of last night we reported there had been 16 deaths in that country. now it's up to 19 deaths just one day later. iran has reported only 136 infections already, only 136 people with the virus, but 19 deaths, that ratio sort of feels off. it has raised suspicions that the reported number of cases, the reported number of frequencies iran might be artificially low just because with 19 deaths you would expect a larger total number of people to be infected. the center of the outbreak in iran appears to be the holy city of qom, a site to which sheite muslims make religious pilgrimages. they have not closed the shrines

in that city that are the targets for these religious pilgrims or have they limited access to the holy city. but as of tonight they ordered a week-long closure of schools and cultural sites in ten provinces across iran. in saudi arabia where sunni muslim from all over the world make their pilgrimages, authorities have as of tonight suspended religious pilgrimage travel to the holy cities of mecca and medina. in japan today the japanese prime minister said that cultural and sporting events should be canceled or at least postponed. he's calling on japanese companies to stagger working hours so people aren't on site all together all the time at their workplaces. he's calling on companies to start implementing work from home and tell will e commuting. a hotel in ten reef spain has has been locked down and turned into capture after a guest was

found to be infected . that lockdown at that spanish hotel continues tonight and now there's another one. this time it is a ski resort in the austrian city of inns brook. it has been looked down and all guests and employees are being quarantined after an employee of the hotel was found to be infected. again, that is in austria. necessa nestle stopped all business travel for its employees worldwide today to avoid their employees contracting the virus or themselves spreading it. in italy, which as of now has the largest concentration of coronavirus virus cases outside of asia, they have centered on the region of lombardi. today the president of the lombardi region called a press conference to discuss the status of the outbreak in his region, but then he called off the nuisances at the last minute because it turns out a close

colleague of the president himself tested positive. and so the president of the lombardi region called off his press conference and announced he himself, the president, is going into a 14-day quarantine because he has just had close exposure to somebody who has been positively diagnosed with the virus. we are in this somewhat unusual situation in our country where to be honest, i don't mean it in a mean way. i mean knit a specific and consequential way. this president because of the way he conducted himself, particularly his social media, even his pronouncements from the oval office and the white house, he doesn't have very much credibility in terms of being counted on to always communicate true things to the country. regardless of what else you think about this president or if you are his biggest fan, he has not built up a big well of

credibility, particularly if he thinks the truth is something that might reflect poorly on him or his administration. and so the president is saying, you know, we're going to be zero cases real soon. as far as we know, regardless of the president, the scientists and the public health people do tell us the truth, and it's not 15 cases in the united states and quickly going to zero like the president said. it is 60 cases in the united states, including one, our first one as of tonight of unknown origin. health officials in one new york county alone, nassau county, long island of new york, say as of today 80 people are under quarantine in that county alone. as we reported last night, the first active duty u.s. soldier has been diagnosed in south korea. he is apparently 23-year-old male american soldier. the military reported last night that he's in self-quarantine in his offbase housing.

but today the military in south korea ordered anybody that had contact with him must stay confined in their homes. they have closed schools on u.s. bases in south korea for at least the rest of this week. they have ordered the cancellation of nonessential meetings. they have orbited the cancellation -- ordered the cancellation of meetings off base. and as of tonight we just got word moments ago that it looks like south korean military exercises have been canceled. and south korea, of course, is a highly developed country with a very big, very robust economy. they've got a very competent health sector. today in south korea, the number of reported cases of coronavirus there jumped by 30% in one day. there are about 1,200 reported cases of coronavirus in south korea all together, but almost 300 of those cases were newly

reported in one day, today. and a big part of the reason for that is because south korea is very aggressively testing people. i mean, among other things, they're doing drive-up free roadside testing. officials in south korea say they are racing toward a goal of trying to get 200,000 people tested immediately. and as they are testing aggressively, they are, at least if today is any indication, finding hundreds of new cases a day. so that's how it's going. that's how some of the rest of the world is trying to respond. how are we doing? south korea is trying to test 200,000 people as of basically yesterday. how many people have we tested? and what are the plans for testing in the united states? how key is testing for this disease to the prospects for containing it? some of our allies are treating

testing as a very important part of trying to contain this virus. what are our plans around testing? and are the tests reliable? also, why is it significant in epidemiological terms to start to have cases where you don't know how the person got it, where you can't trace that person's infection to a clear sour source. >> reporter: why is that important and what does it mean as of tonight with this patient in northern california? also, for those of us who aren't doctors and who are rapidly becoming immune to ignorant snark, why are they saying, look, it only kills 2% of people who get infected? while other people, often people in public health and epidemiology are saying the opposite?

you hear them saying, you know, holy cow, this is a huge deal. do you know it's killing 2% of the people who got infected? for those of us who aren't doctors and for those of us who aren't interested in the spin and snark but instead want real information on this, should the reported 2% falgtsly of this virus before comfort to us? or should that number seem big to us isn't that is that actually part of what's scary here? while we're on the subject of what's scary and what we need to understand, why don't kids seem to get it? are older people more susceptible because older people have underlying other conditions that make them basically more weak and fragile in susceptible? why aren't we seeing reports of kids getting it basically anywhere in the world? are the face masks that people are wearing all over the world a good thing for people who are not infected or trying to avoid infection? or are they a good thing mostly for people who are already infected to help those people avoidfecting others? or both or neither?

as we follow the news every day now of this virus spreading around the globe, more than 40 countries now and new ones every day, are we in the containment phase of fighting this virus? if so, is this list of new countries reporting their first cases, does that mean we're failing at efforts to contain it? should we think about it in a different way? is the transmission rate of this virus high enough that it's actually not likely to be containable and we should stop thinking about in those terms at all? i have questions. as you might be able to tell. joining us now is professor christopher moritz. he led investigations of the initial zika outbreak in the americas in 2015 and the ebola outbreak in sierra leon. thank you so much for being here.

appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> is that okay. >> we need to try to learn not toot that as much but. >> it's hard for me to be less of a handshaker. >> we need to develop the right habits on this. >> let me ask you about that list of questions i asked. >> that's quite a list. >> do any of them seem off base or really not the right questions to be asking? >> no. we're trying to track and glean from available data sources and decide what's the trajectory of this thing, what are the best responses, do we have a chance of containing this thing, or is it time to adapt a new approach. >> let's talk about two measures of this virus that i'd like you to put in context for a layman. one is the lethality rate at 2%, which is being spun very hard by people on both sides.

then there's also a transmission rate and how many people an infected person could be expected to infect. describe the transmission rate, how important is that and what that means we should be aiming for in terms of containment. ? >> the model has it pegged in the 2% to 3% range right now. that's based on the data that we've gotten out of china. >> each infected person that can be expected to infect two to lee others? >> and that's an epidemic that grows. more people will become infected in each successive generation. that's based on the data that's come out of china at this point. like a number of things you listed here as questions and concerns, we have questions and concerns about how accurate that data has been coming out of

china. and so are those predictions and projections correct, based on good data. >> is there any indication that as the virus spreads, as an index patient gives to two or three other people, that it becomes less transmissable and less dangerous? >> no. there's no evidence whatsoever at this point that the virus is changing in successive cases or generations of infection. we're not seeing that in terms of, like, the consequence analysis of people who get knit trains of transmission. there will be mutation that happens over time, but it's not adapt that go quickly. so we haven't seen a change in its rate yet. >> if that transmission rate holds and you say it's important to ask questions about how we arrived about that expectation, that would imply it's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and it's not "g" going to become less lethal as

it spreads? >> the lethality is a separate issue. it's based on the data we got interest china and it's being spun that it's only 2%, and the other is, wow, that's 2%. when you talk about highly transmissive infection like this and you look at it in terms of, you know, the global population, all of us are naive to this virus, there's no immunity out there to slow it down, there's no vaccine that's going to slow it down. so with everyone being susceptible to infection, there's quite a pool of people that could potentially become infected so 2% of 7 billion people is a big number. even if it's not 7 billion but hundreds of millions, that's still a big number. so, again, that case fatality rate number is based on the data we've gotten from hubei and wuhan and the chinese outbreak experience. we just don't know yet if that's going to hold up as we start to see new countries experience

this virus for themselves. and so if that holds, i think that'll be a devastating number to have to deal with. i hope and i think a lot of other people are hoping that we haven't looked at all the cases that occurred in that outbreak zone, and so the number of deaths versus a more realistic number of exposures will bring that number down. but right now that's hope. >> anybody telling you that 2% is a good number -- >> i can't get behind that. >> we'll be right back. professor of global health at george washington university is our guest. align helps to soothe your occasional digestive upsets 24/7. with a strain of bacteria you can't get anywhere else. you could say align puts the pro in probiotic. so where you go, the pro goes. go with align, the pros in digestive health. and try align gummies with prebiotics and probiotics to help support digestive health.

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. i understand this whole situation may seem overwhelming and that disruption to everyday life may be severe, but these are things that people need to start thinking about now. >> there's no change to anyone's daily life from this that the country has a plan. we have pandemic plans. there's a playbook for this, but we have to be realistic also and transparent that we will have more cases. >> two somewhat contrasting announcements from the government. one, a serious warning from the director of the cdc's national center for immunization and

respiratory diseases yesterday telling the american people to get ready for our lives to change as this virus spreads. the other from the health and human services secretary saying nobody's daily life is going to change. it's the government that has plans. you don't need to have plans. our government is not being awesome right now in terms of speaking with one voice on this matter. but it is clear they are trying to get it together. at least in the way they're commuting about it, sort of. in the meantime, what are you going to do? you work around it and do your best. joining us is christopher morris, professor at george washington university. one of the things -- that i want expert help, is the importance of testing. we saw this 30% jump today in the number of reported cases in south korea. that large number of new cases is because south korea is very aggressively testing people

trying to get hundreds of thousands of people tested. are the tests reliable enough o to -- that it makes sense for south korea to be doing that? how key is testing to try to control this epidemic? >> i don't think anything specifically about the tests the south koreans are using. i don't have hands on the cdc's test either, although we know they had problems. testing is absolutely critical because without that, we're going on suspicion based on symptoms or nothing at all. and so we really need to be drilling down on people coming back from areas where they may have been exposed and also within communities we need to start testing, to look for community transmission. they should be able to be made reliable and reproduceble. i hope cdc is working the kinks out of its test now and we'll see that that's made broadly in

the u.s. very soon. >> in terms of community transmission, i know that's a term of art, but in epidemiological terms, why is it important when you start to have cases where you don't know how the person got it or you can't trace their infection to a specific person who spent time in a china or who spent time in a place in italy, a lot of cases are in iran. we saw the german health minister call a press conference to say, we, germany, are in the phase where we have community transmission, we can't tell you where the infections are coming from. it appears the united states is in that position for the first time as of tonight with this case in northern california. why does that matter so much? >> if you don't know where the tail of that chain is and you don't know where it's coming from, you know, you have to ask yourself what else are you really missing inside the community so you don't have all the information, you're not tracing all the cases and all the transmission events. and so, you know, it's really tough to put a quarantine on or an isolation protocol in place that targets all the right

people. we can't do this based on travel history alone. we can't do this based on symptoms alone. >> how do you do it? >> testing is one way. really having access to a rapid and, you know, field forward test that can get that answered quickly at the hands of field epidemiologists. that's going to be important to get our hands back around this thing where we can try to put it back into containment, but right now we're not there. >> we see people around the world wearing face masks of various kinds. i was struck by the photos of american service members on bases in south korea stopping cars at the greats of u.s. military bases in south korea doing spot temperature checks for everybody coming in. and the soldiers themselves wearing face masks with civilian travelers everywhere to. it strikes me that that is a measure that would tend to be more effective for somebody who is infected who's trying to

avoid infecting others. but that's me literally making that up based on what the face masks look like. how do you approach it from a public health perspective? >> i would tend to agreement certainty it's far more effective someone os symptomatic into a miscellaneous so they can't spread the droplets to people in the vicinity. but people who are really in close contact with patients like health care workers, they're going to need those masks, absolutely. and they'll have, you know, what we call an n 95 mask usually. that gives them a high level of protection against respiratory droplets. but everyday people walking around, that's a tough mask to wear for long periods of time. so it's something that's really not recommended at this point for the walking well. >> we've seen -- this is my last question for you. you mentioned health care workers. i am moved by the fact that so many health workers themselves

have been infected and killed oth over this process. there are people involved in treating people that have the illness, like in china, they're putting themselves at great risk by doing with work. i may be wrong about this, but i've been looking at reports, i've been struck by kids aren't getting infected. they're saying older people may be particularly susceptible. young vigorous people who are health workers are themselves, when they're in positions where they're being exposed, are falling to it. we're not seeing reports of kids and young people getting sick, even though there's lots of preparation around potentially closing schools. >> right. >> is there a vir logical way we should understand that. >> there's not a good explanation for that right now. that's a surveillance art fact of some sort. you know, it could be that yes, this does not present in a severe illness way among the

very young, and it is heavily skewed to older people and people with preexisting ailments. they're going to be tested in a hospital situation, but clearly children and young adults are going to be able to exposed to this like the rest of us and it will take time to see whether or not this picture of who gets sick holds up outside the outbreak zone. >> any big questions we should be asking that we're not so far? >> i think it's really just about, you know, what is the end game of using travel bans and restrictions on movement if we don't know what's going on in our backyard. and all the cases you outlined in your introduction where we don't know where they came from, that's highly concerning. if we don't change our attitude maybe away from this i'm going to wall myself off from the rest

of the world idea and address what is really going on in terms of transmission and get the data we need top of address this, we'll put ourselves further and further behind. >> is the president right when he says we're about to go to zero cases? >> i don't know what data that he has access, to but that does not look like the data i'm looking at. >> christopher mores thank you. we'll be right back. stay with us. you ever wish you weren't a motaur? sure. sometimes i wish i had legs like you. yeah, like a regular person. no. still half bike/half man, just the opposite. oh, so the legs on the bottom and motorcycle on the top? yeah. yeah, i could see that. for those who were born to ride, there's progressive.

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quote from the judge, this is indisputely a widely publicized case. for example, the president of the united states used his twitter platform to disseminate a point of view about a juror. he also repeated at a televised rally that the foreperson of the jury was jumping up and down at the guilty verdict na. highly polarized political climate in which the president himself showed a spotlight on the jury through his use of social media, the risk of intimidation of those is extremely high. and that individuals who may be angry about mr. stone's conviction or other developments in the news may choose to take it out on them personally.

the judge was not done. she goes on. quote, i need to state this clearly even though it's not a matter of debate, that any attempts to invade the privacy of the jurors or harass or intimidate them is antithetical to our entire system of justice where the accused as a constitutional right to a trial by jury. members of the public are called upon to give that right effect by showing up for jury duty. jurors are not volunteers. they are deserving of the public's respect and they deserve to have their privacy protected. attempts to disregard that for personal or political gain can have a significant chilling effect on the willingness of other members of the public to show up when they are summoned in the future. we just got the transcript today from the hearing in federal court in d.c. where president trump's longtime political adviser roger stone has requested a new criminal trial. roger stone was sentenced over

three years in prison after being convicted by a unanimous jury on seven felony counts. but he wants a new trial because he is allegedly the jury in his case was biased. and president trump and the conservative media, particularly prime time shows on the fox news channel, have been attacking the individual jurors in roger stone's case. that is what brought the judge out of her corner sort of vociferously defending the jurors's right to do their duty without being intimidated or harassed. no sooner had the judge delivered that warning in court about the chilling effect and the potential safety risk for these jurors, no sooner had she had that that the president started tweeting again an attack on the foreperson of the jury and an attack on the judge, calling them, quote, totally biased. attacks on the educationjudicia are not new. but he does seem to be on a

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healthcare, and programs that touch us all. shape your future. start here. learn more at 2020census.gov again yesterday the president personally attacked the forewoman of the jury in his now-convicted friend roger stone's trial, accusing that individual juror of bias. and it so happens that another member of that same jury went on the record yesterday to defend the foreperson of his jury in a remarkable "washington post" op-ed, the second one that juror number three has written since the conclusion of the stone trial. juror number three saying in this new poepd quote, the jury foreperson has been the subject recently of numerous add hmo now and then attacks was one of the strongest advocates the rights

of the defendant. she expressed skepticism and was one of the last people to vote on the convict on the charge that took most of our deliberation time. roger stone received a fair trial, but events since his trial threatened to undermine the equal administration of justice. joining us now is andrew weissman, former fbi general counsel, senior member of robert mueller's special counsel investigation and now msnbc legal counsel. >> we're not going to shake hand. >> there you go. i have to practice. i probably need more jackets that give me more reach on those things. i have been watching the stone case with a lot more interest since the case accounted than i did while he was being convicted. the crimes for which he was convicted were relatively straightforward, charging with seven felonies. the jury found him unanimously guilty on all seven counties. since then it's emerged into a thing of national significance.

how important is it that the president is attacking members of the jury? >> so you already had something remarkable in this case, which is you had the entire trial team withdraw or resign from the department of justice. so that's already -- that does not happen. and now you have a second thing which the judge correctly commented on that she couldn't believe it was happening and she actually closed the courtroom because of it, which is the president attacking the jury. so all of us have been on juries. i've been on a jury, remarkably. >> you on a jury? >> even after the special counsel's office i was on a jury. >> wow. >> but americans do that. it's part of the way that you do military service. it's something you do. and the idea that the president of the united states would attack the jurors is really remarkable. that led to judge jackson closing the courtroom so there was audio feed but you you wouldn't see the jurors testify. >> she went so far as to include

the courtroom sketch artists so they couldn't create a likeness of the jurors. >> even one lawyer from each side could be present with a marshal testified about threats that were being made to the jurors. >> so if you can talk about what the implications of that are, we see any of us with our jurors, these people volunteered and they shouldn't be attacked. but it has a big effect on the administration of justice if individual jurors have to fear for their safety, fear for their careers, fear being signaled out like this, including by the president depending on how they vote as jurors and how they deliberate. >> this happens in mob cases where you actually have anonymous and protected sequestered injuries because you're so concerned about the defendant getting to the jurors. nobody should have to worry about that. i think it's important here, though, to talk about the law here in terms of just how much

that the president got wrong here. in order for the foreperson to be, quote, biased and should have been removed, the law doesn't require that people don't have views before they start serving on a jury. all of us do. the law doesn't require that everyone who serves on a jury was found under a rock and they come in like newborn babes just hearing everything for the first time. what the law requires is that you can put that aside and hear the case based on the principles that the judge sets forth and the facts that are illicited. the one juror who spoke after he was convicted said i am a trump supporter. i left my maga hat in my car and i showed up for jury duty. and you know what? it wasn't a problem because the judge -- i swore an oath to follow what the judge said to do, and i did it. i would be interested to hear what the president thinks if

that juror should be able to sit. we all act on principle, and i think that's something that the law recognizes and clearly what we've heard from the foreperson and from the other juror who wrote in "the washington post" is that the jury did that. juro warrick post. that the jury did that. so i suspect that we'll hear from judge jackson that there was no impropriety here. >> we can see judge jackson in this transcript today trying to protect these individual jurors. is there any broader way we can protect jurors now the president behaves this way? >> the one thing, i'm not sure there's much more that can be done given that it is the president and we've now seen limited abilities to control him. he is willing to attack the cdc and noaa and now judges and juries. you could see the chief justice again speaking out in the way did he. whether it was an attack on a district judge.

it is so important to the judicial system that jurors be treated well and americans are part of. process. if you think about the cynic pitch there would be if the jury system, if we didn't have that. if we didn't have the public participating in criminal and civil cases. i mean, it is such an american tradition that we have. we know it is people like you and me who have shown up and done their duties and left their other beliefs aside to follow the law. >> thanks for being here. i won't shake your hand. thanks. >> more ahead. stay right with us. (dad vo) i saw them out of the corner of my eye. just a blur when they jumped the median. there was nothing i could do. (daughter) daddy! (dad vo) she's safe because of our first outback.

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now had been that person had no idea that announcement was coming until literally moments before he stepped up to the podium for the live announcement of. to the nation. five sources telling the "washington post" saying that he was completely blind sided by announcement right until the moment it was made publicly at that briefing. beyond that, the centers for disease control is confirming the first case in the united states of coronavirus of unknown origin. in a press release tonight, the california public department of public health noting that the individual in northern california is somebody who had no known exposure to coronavirus through travel or through close contact with a known infected individual. nevertheless, that person has been diagnosed with coronavirus now. according to the california department of public health, the individual is a resident of soleano county in california and is receiving