we're out of time. >> ah. >> i know. that's going to wrap up this hour of msnbc live. i will see you tomorrow morning on "today" from orlando, florida. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. thank you, craig. right now on "andrea mitchell reports," fear factor. the first u.s. patient to contract coronavirus with no history of foreign travel was not tested for days while president trump down plays the risk of the virus spreading at odds with his team of experts and wall street suffers its worst week since the financial crisis of 2008. >> we're at that very low level and we want to keep it that way. >> the degree of risk has the potential to change quickly. >> we do expect more cases. >> and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero. >> come back kid, joe biden gets a bounce in the polls days ahead of the make or break south carolina primary. will it be enough to hold back

the bernie sanders' momentum? >> look, the idea that there's going to be this revolution, americans aren't looking for a revolution. they're looking for progress. and nancy pelosi works to calm nerves on capitol hill as some members from key swing districts worry about what a bernie sanders' ticket may mean. >> the presidential is its own race and i don't -- contrary to what you may be hearing or writing, we are not getting -- we are all unified. all unified. good afternoon, everybody. i'm in for andrea mitchell here in new york with critical new developments on coronavirus cases. the global turmoil taking a massive toll on the markets again. the dow recovering slightly after falling more than 900 points at one point. the drop sparked by the big

concern in northern california, the centers for disease controls confirming what they're calling a possible first case of person-to-person transmission of the virus of unknown origin. fears are ramping up across europe and in japan officials are taking precautions to a significant new level with the announcement of all schools will be closed during the month of march to help with the containment inside of that country. president trump's message to the nation, everything is under control despite a cluster of unanswered questions. watch this. >> we are totally ready, willing and able, the term that we use, ready, willing and able, it's going to be very well under control. now, it may get bigger, it may get a little bigger. we'll see what happens. but regardless of what happens, we're totally prepared. >> totally prepared. let's get into this. joining me now, white house correspondent geoff bennett,

"washington post" white house reporter, ashley parker, and senior business correspondent stephanie ruhle is with us as well. the dow taking a major drop today, almost 900 points, an hour or so ago. now recovering a bit, 400 points down or so. reading a piece saying this is the worst week since 2008 and it's only thursday, steph. talk us through it. >> remember, as far as the markets go, things could turn around. you could see next week being the best week, but you mentioned it at the top. this is about lack of information and uncertainty. on monday when we saw all of these images from italy, schools closing, events being canceled, flights being canceled, people got concerned. those concerns have heightened when we heard about the case in california today where that person went into the hospital on wednesday and wasn't tested for coronavirus until saturday and think about communication from the white house. two days ago, you had the president and his economic

adviser larry kudlow saying this thing is almost airtight contained and while last night his remarks were far more sobering and serious, from a market's perspective, it's the uncertainty. you know you're going to see an economic impact. you said it a moment ago, when all of the school children, 13 million in japan, are now being homeschooled for an entire month, that's going to have an economic impact. remember where the olympics is scheduled to be in a few months, japan. >> can you give me a bit of a historical perspective on all of this. when you think of other epidemics we have faced in the country or around the world, there's been a lot out there, have we seen similar swings in the markets as we've been seeing this past week or is this specific to what's happening with regards to the coronavirus along with the trump administration and lack of credibility that they face. >> we've seen drops like this before with sars, with ebola,

but, remember, investing is all about long-term investing. if you're investing in a company, warren buffett said it a couple days ago, you should be thinking about it for 10 or 20 years. we saw things come back within a few months. here's one thing that's different, ebola is about bodily fluids have to be in contact. as it relates to coronavirus, it's just coughing, sneezing. for those who are sending their kids to school, going on spring break, going to sporting events, the way this is spread is much faster and broader and the unknowns are concerning. so, yes, we're seeing a drop in the markets similar to what we saw with ebola or sars. but it doesn't mean the world is ending. it doesn't mean that things aren't going to come back. it means things are uncertain and that's why people have sold in the last couple of days. and we've seen that before. >> steph brings up a good point, because there are a lot of unknowns about the coronavirus so far. tell us what we know about this case that is developing in

northern california. >> very interesting timeline. if you look at it on tuesday, we heard the cdc say it wasn't a matter of if, it was a matter of when. and in particular, they mentioned community spread and then wednesday the very next day these results from sacramento came back positive for the first known case of community-spread contagion. to break that down, that means officials don't know where this coronavirus patient got the virus. they haven't traveled to china, they don't know anybody else that has, don't know anyone else who has been infected or at least who is on the radar of health officials. officials are going to have to go back and see where they went and try to somehow cross-reference all of that with people who have recently traveled to china. so as for the patient, all we know right now is that they are a resident of california, they were transferred to uc davis in bad shape, they were on a ventilator when they came into the hospital. they were admitted to uc davis

on february 19th. they weren't tested until sunday and finally the cdc confirmed the person tested positive yesterday. officials say that testing delay had to do with a few things, namely, the patient didn't meet the criteria of having traveled to mainland china or knowing about any contact with anyone who had. as you can imagine, the cdc is facing a lot of questions about how fast that testing is taking place, who is tested. earlier this month they talked about a bottleneck for testing, but they say those problems have been addressed and turnaround is expected to increase. >> how concerned are officials in that region right now that more people could pop up positive with coronavirus considering this initial case? >> that is the big concern, especially when you don't know where that contagion took place. it's not just a matter of who this person came into contact with, it's also a matter of

where this person was, and whether or not they were touching surfaces that were the source of contagion or whether they came into close contact with somebody that did. there are so many unanswered questions in this particular case and it's not just this particular case, this also shows that it is possible and it's happening here in the united states, at least one case so far. >> geoff, let's talk washington here. the white house wanting to get the message out that they're taking this seriously as we heard from the president last night putting mike pence, the former governor, who understands the legislative process in washington as the point man on coronavirus and now we're actually hearing from leader mcconnell that funding could get a vote in the next couple of weeks. those next couple of weeks are crucial for the development of this thing or to stop this thing from developing. what are you hearing today? >> we're starting to get more clarity on two key fronts, personnel and funding, as the administration trying to get on a stronger, more unified footing

as they confront coronavirus. we can start with personnel, president trump named his number two, mike pence, as lead to coordinate across the government, to lead this response. in just the last hour, pence himself has named a number two of his own, ambassador debbie brix. she's going to serve as the coronavirus response coordinator. she's an obama appointee that has a three-decade-long career. we can also talk about the funding. earlier in the week there was that debate between the white house and capitol hill about just how much money would be needed. the white house made that request for $2.5 billion. that was criticized by even some republicans as the administration really lowballing the dollar figure. chuck schumer wrote his own request for $8.5 billion. president trump last night said, fine, if that's what congress wants to give us, that's what

we'll take. a lot of that money, at least $1 billion of it, i'm told, will go toward vaccine development, the purchase of protective equipment like masks and go toward fixing and redeploying the test kits. >> i want to talk about why we got to this point because geoff brings up a good point talking about the funding. the trump administration actually cut funding to the cdc now asking again for this $2.5 billion to be passed as geoff bringing up, mcconnell saying we're going to take two weeks to pass this thing. two weeks in coronavirus time is very crucial. >> that's exactly right. and it's not just that he cut funding to cdc, it's that this is a president who for a number of reasons his dismissesed and been very skeptical of what he calls the deep-state government bureaucracy and that means people with expertise and he's hallowed out a lot of these agencies. he finds himself in this very

ironic situation where he is going to need to rely on the very agencies and the very officials who he's dismissed and in some cases eliminated their positions or not given them the funding levels that they believed they needed to do their jobs. he now has to rely on them to reassure the public that they can handle this pandemic. >> i want to talk about this from a politics perspective, the president needs this problem to go area in the short term, one, to calm the markets and to in the long term keep that great economy going. >> that's exactly right. the economy is the key thing that's given his campaign the confidence to fall back on when he makes a tweet that is problematic. they think that will help him get into election day. and these sorts of incidents, i point you to president bush with katrina, are the sort of things

where if you bungle them they're hard to recover politically. and that's a risk this president faces. >> give us the likelihood here that this market could rebound in the next couple weeks considering all that we have heard and the fact that mcconnell said it could take two weeks for this passage and coronavirus could balloon in that time. >> i certainly won't say that i can predict what the market could do. in terms of predictions, it's more likely that we'll see the fed take action. remember, what the fed is actually there for is to use their leverage, rate cuts, rate hikes, when they're faced with major situations like a possible pandemic. we're already seeing criticism of the fed today that over the last year, when things were going very well, what the fed was doing was tinkering with rates and cutting rates when they didn't necessarily need to. jay powell has said we're going to wait and see what the impact is and investors are already saying if you wait and see, it could be too late. in other scenarios, the

president puts pressure on situations, let's have a tax cut or deregulate and that boosts things. but we're talking about human a lot of life, think about all the ways the precaution nar measures, companies, individuals are making right now to say i'm going to stay close to home. if people stay close to home, they're not going to be spending and that's going to have an economic impact and it's going to hurt stock. >> they're not getting on planes, going to stores, not going to school. >> not going out to dinner. >> and it crosses the board. geoff bennett, stephanie ruhle, ashley parker, appreciate it. coming up, what you need to know about protecting yourself as this virus spreads. plus, signs that joe biden might pull out the big win he promised in south carolina. at fidelity, we'll help you

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welcome back. some good news today for former vice president joe biden two days ahead of the south carolina primary. a new monmouth university poll showing biden with a 20-point lead over senator bernie sanders in that state. in an interview, biden told craig melvin that this election could decide the fate of the democratic party. >> you've also said on the trail a number of times, i've heard you say this, that this is a battle for the soul of this nation. >> it is. >> and it's starting to seem as if this is a battle for the soul of your party. >> i think that's true. >> if you were not the nominee, what does that then say about the democratic party? >> it says to me that we have moved away from our roots, our basic rational for being in existence as a party. >> joining me now, jonathan

capehart, kimberly atkins, and ab stoddard. kimberly, i'm going to start with you on this one, quite a margin that biden has gained in that new poll out of south carolina. can he stay in the race at this point if he does not pull a big win in south carolina? >> it becomes much, much harder. he needs a big win in south carolina to really establish himself, not just against bernie sanders but among all of the other non-bernie sanders candidates who are still in the race. what joe biden needs is for some of those candidates to drop out and a divisive win in south carolina and the ripple effect that that likely will have on super tuesday makes it more likely that will happen. if he wins just by a couple of points and certainly if he doesn't win, it makes it a lot harder to make the case to those other candidates that they should start throwing in the towel and it certainly emboldens

bernie sanders. >> i was talking with steve kornacki a little bit earlier and i was talking to him about this latest poll and he was really surprised about the fact that biden has continued to gain traction and build a bigger lead despite the fact that he had no wins in nevada and new hampshire and in iowa and that sanders did not necessarily gain momentum. >> well, i mean, in nevada it was a win for joe biden to come in second and to not be behind the pack, warren or klobuchar or buttigieg. i think the worry that the biden campaign should have looking at that so-called boost in the numbers in south carolina is that republicans are endeavoring in a well publicized effort to be voting in an open primary, republican trump supporters, for bernie on saturday. those polls might not turn out the same vote numbers that they seem to be telegraphing at this point. obviously, the reporting out of the "new york times" today that

superdelegates intend to keep this open until a convention means that biden is not going to get out no matter what vote share he gets in south carolina, i believe, and i do think that bernie sanders, on the other hand -- >> doesn't he have -- i saw that report in the "new york times" as well talking to 93 superdelegates saying this could be a brokered convention unless bernie sanders gets the majority of delegates. is biden going to have the money if he doesn't win states like south carolina at that point? how could he stay in without that kind of money? >> that is always a question. i think he's -- look, i think bernie sanders has done himself some damage with his interview with anderson cooper. biden is up in florida. i think he's going to suffer a little bit from the last debate and from the fear in the party about him and his capability to win in november. so i'm not sure he's going to have the best super tuesday that we all thought he would a week

ago. i think he's going to -- he's going to continue to have momentum for the nomination and i think joe biden, in light of the fact there's a party-wide panic. you can't beat the optimism out of joe biden. >> biden is doing an interview on fox news, i believe it's on sunday for the first time. does he need the swing vote here? >> does he need the swing vote? if he's the nominee, going on fox news and sitting down with chris wallace is a good way to reach those voters who might be looking for a home for their vote in november so that they don't have to vote for president trump or write someone else in or stay home. it's a smart move on the vice president's part to do that. look, i think the primary calendar at this point works in vice president biden's favor. three days after south carolina comes super tuesday. what we haven't talked about is the fact that south carolina is

superimportant because 60% of the democratic electorate in this state is african-american and what those poll numbers, the monmouth university poll shows basically is that african-americans are sticking by vice president biden and i think ab raises a good point, these poll numbers that we're seeing, which is not a surprise to me, might not match up with the actual results if the chaos campaign that the republicans are talking about doing is successful. but if vice president biden comes out of south carolina with a 20-point win over the person who comes in second, then three days later, he goes into super tuesday where there are states with also large african-american electorates, that could be what the vice president needs to soldier on. >> then there's the outlier, someone would throw this whole calculus off and that is mike bloomberg campaigning in houston. he took a swipe at his

competitors just in the last hour. let's take a listen to that. >> i've never worked in washington and i don't make pie in the sky promises. as you've seen in the debates, i'm not someone who yells slogans even when they're not true. >> talk about the bloomberg threat here, kimberly. >> yeah, i think at this moment, bloomberg probably poses a bigger threat to joe biden right now than bernie sanders because bloomberg is occupying that role and polls have consistently shown that bloomberg pulls from all of the non-sanders' candidates but pulls from biden the most. as long as he stays in there, it's going to be a problem for him. he's endlessly funded and you're talking about the fund-raising issues that joe biden will have which he needs to win in order to boost his fund-raising numbers. he's a big threat in that other lane right now that is really keeping this from being a clearer picture on that other side. >> quickly here, if bloomberg

does not register come super tuesday, what then? is he done? >> if he doesn't do well on super tuesday? >> yeah. >> yeah, i think there are some polls indicating that he's flat-lining a little bit. but the investment he's made in those states has been extraordinary and i don't think we appreciate the depth of it. and i have a feeling that he's going to do much better than people are expecting throughout the month of march and end up with a very good competitive delegate haul. >> thank you all. coming up, outbreak, is the government doing enough to reassure the public about the coronavirus? i'm going to talk to the former health commissioner for the city of baltimore next. as a struggling actor, i need all the breaks that i can get. at liberty butchemel... cut. liberty mu... line? cut. liberty mutual customizes your car insurance

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welcome back. let's check back in on wall street. and the breaking that we have been following throughout the day, the dow now down more than 360 points or so, dropping for a fourth straight day on global concerns over the coronavirus. today's dip in part due to fears of a possible person-to-person transmission of the virus in california. going me now dr. leana wen associate professor and a former

health commissioner for the city of baltimore. thank you for joining us on this incredibly important topic right now. i want to talk about, first, the risk to our nation as we speak. the president is saying he does not think that a spread is inevitable. the cdc director say the spread is a question of when, not if. what is the reality right now? >> i wish that president trump was more direct with the american people yesterday. i think he was trying to paint a rosy picture, but, actually, he should have just spoken the truth which is what the public health officials are saying. the truth is that the risk to americans right now is very low. there have only been 15 confirmed cases of the new coronavirus detected in the u.s. but that said, we know that this is now a global outbreak. there are more than 47 countries where there is transmission

occurring including within those countries, like this latest case in the u.s. and so we will get more cases in the u.s. we will have an outbreak here, but we are also prepared. the u.s. is leading a strong response and i hope that the president will just say that, that we have been doing a good job, we'll continue to protect the american people, but we are expecting for things to get worse in this country. >> let's talk first then about this california case because there's a lot of unknowns here and i hope that you can clarify it a bit for us. there is this person in california and they don't necessarily know how this person contracted the coronavirus because there was no travel involved and there was no -- from this person's knowledge, it seems of any immediate connection from someone who had traveled to a region in which coronavirus was rampant like china. how are they tracking who this person came into contact with? could it be someone who was standing next to this person at a starbucks that could now be at

risk of contracting the coronavirus? >> that's right. the reason why this case is concerning is that it's not someone who just came back from china or came back from an area where coronavirus is known to be spreading. this person, we don't even know how they got coronavirus in the first place which means that this could be evidence of community spread, meaning that maybe they're a traveler who came back, somehow spread it to this person, you mentioned a coffee shop, it's possible, but that means that community spread is happening in the u.s. we know that community spread is happening in other countries too. and the reason that's happening is twofold, one is that patients with coronavirus may have mild or no symptoms and still be spreading it. the second is we have not been doing routine surveillance. we have very limited testing capabilities. so it's very possible that within the u.s., just like in other countries, there are a lot of people who have minimal or no

symptoms who are spreading it to other people. so the case numbers for coronavirus are likely much higher that aren't being reported right now. >> if you have flulike symptoms or coronaviruslike symptoms and you feel as if you need to see a physician, what do you do? if you go to an emergency room or you go to an urgent care and you possibly do have coronavirus and you don't know it, you are putting others at risk. are the facilities in place to deal with that type of scenario? >> right now, i want to emphasize, again, that the risk for an everyday person in america for getting coronavirus is extremely low. we're in the middle of flu season and there have been over a million cases of the flu this year, tens of thousands of people have died from the flu in the u.s. this year. so your chance of getting the flu or some other cold, if you have a fever and a cough, it's much more likely that you have something else and not coronavirus. but that said, we really need to be testing a lot more people and

if you have cough, fever, et cetera, the best thing to do is to call your doctor. don't go immediately to an er or another facility. call your doctor first. >> quickly, doctor, i haven't heard much stories about children being affected by the coronavirus. sometimes viruses like this, people who are most susceptible are those who are elderly and children. what are you learning about the children's susceptibility to this thing? >> what we're hearing and what we're seeing from around the world is that those who are the most affected are those who are elderly and who have chronic medical conditions. so far, there have been some children with infections, but they haven't had such the severe level of infections has there have been for older adults. >> really appreciate your knowledge on this. coming up, public trust. president trump's credibility challenged during the public health crisis. maria ramirez?

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we're rapidly developing vaccine and they can speak to you, the professionals can speak to you about that. the vaccine is coming along well and speaking to the doctors, we think this is something we can develop fairly rapidly, a vaccine. >> although this is the fastest we've gone from a sequence of a virus to a trial, it still would not be any applicable to the epidemic unless we really wait about a year to a year and a half. >> president trump there contradicting one of the government's top experts on diseases about the length of time it's going to take to develop a vaccine for the coronavirus, once again, raising questions about the president's credibility as the nation is striving to deal with this potential public health crisis. joining me now is ben rhodes and jon meacham, presidential historian and biographer.

ben, i'm going to start with you on this one, the doctor that i actually just spoke to, she has published a piece in "the washington post" on governments need people's trust to stop an outbreak, trust being the main word there. this is an administration that has not handled crises well. during hurricane dorian he showed a map showing an inaccurate forecast and you had puerto rico with him throwing the paper towels at the crowds and then there was last night. does this president and this administration have a credibility problem when it comes to crisis like we're dealing with now? >> yes, they have a massive problem and it's absolutely the case that trust matters. during the ebola outbreak, we had daily briefings that were meant to give people the information that they needed to know what to be worried about, whatnot to be worried about,

what precautions to take and what we're seeing is a perfect storm of the trap the trump administration has set for themselves. they've lied about really important matters about what the basis was for killing an iranian direction, the direction of a hurricane, the crowd size of the inauguration on the very first day. the american people know that they can't trust the information that this president is giving them about this really critical issue that affects their daily lives. we know this administration has had a disdain for expertise in the government which is reflected in the fact that they've cut cdc funding, tried to slash those budgets. we're entering unchartered territory right now where the american people need this information to know what to do is what not to do and they can't trust the information they get. >> i want you to put this in a historical context for us. talk to us about how other

presidents have handled national emergencies as ben just spoke about with his former boss, president obama and others. >> president obama on ebola is a great case study, george w. bush and the attack of the hiv/aids in africa is one of the sterling elements of that president's legacy. then you look back to the 1980s for a counter example and the government and president reagan, the culture -- political culture was very slow to recognize what needed to be done, even if something needed to be done and acknowledging that. and so it is as ever a mixed record. i think ben is right about the essential role of fact here and sometimes i think in this era there's a bit of a paintball nature to the fact. we argue about things as if all this were a political game. this is not a game.

i always thought -- >> stand by for a second. vice president mike pence is talking about the coronavirus right now. let's take a listen. >> all of the patients have been treated and are doing well. [ applause ] >> and while the risk to the american public remains low, as the president said yesterday, we're ready. we're ready for anything. yesterday president trump directed me to lead a whole of government approach to address the coronavirus in this country. and i promise you, we will continue to bring the full resources of the federal government to bear to protect the american people. [ applause ] >> and as the president also said, it's important to remember we're all in this together. this is not the time for

partisanship [ applause ] >> obviously, the vice president there saying all the patients that are being treated are actually doing quite well, that we are ready for anything and everything that happens and that they have the full resources at their hands to deal with this crisis. >> god-willing they're right, god help us if they're spinning this or overstating it because it is a matter of life and death. this is as core an issue as you can get. i thought a great crisis of trust would be over a foreign policy crisis, would be over the president saying something he knew not to be true. this is more elemental to some extent. and we have to be willing to trust what we're being told and one of the reasons donald trump is president is because in 1965, 77% of americans trusted the federal government and today it's less than 15%. >> unbelievable. ben, do you think that this president is considering more

the political loss amidst all of this versus the personal loss that could happen if this blows up into a full pandemic? >> yes. what bothers me, you have the administration taking away the tools that you usually use to communicate to the american people facts. there's no more white house daily press briefing. during the ebola pandemic, that's when we would have these facts. that podium is gone. that tool is no longer used to communicate to people. if you look at president trump, he uses twitter and the tweets that he's had about this virus have not borne out. he praised xi jingping for a strong response when in fact xi jingping's failure to be transparent about the coronavirus may have contribute today the way in which it spread. he seemed to want to calm financial markets to help the economy and aid his re-election rather than provide facts. my hope is as an american that they get out of the way and let the experts give us these facts.

let cdc talk. the clip you showed at the beginning of trump spinning this about a vaccine and the professionals providing the facts, let's hear from the professionals here. i hate to say it, i wish it wasn't true, but the fact is, there is a credibility gap and that can be very dangerous in dealing with an epidemic like this. >> people are worried and they want the facts, they know what to do and what's real. thank you both. congratulations on the book. >> jesus is alive and well. coming up, feel the burn, is the democratic establishment warming up to the idea of bernie sanders being their nominee. so i kept it in. he started believing things that weren't true. i knew something was wrong... but i didn't say a word. during the course of their disease around 50% of people with parkinson's may experience hallucinations or delusions. but now, doctors are prescribing nuplazid. the only fda approved medicine... proven to significantly reduce

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yasmin. the establishment's line lately is oh, bernie, he can't beat donald trump. can't beat trump. well you know what? we are the strongest campaign to defeat donald trump. take a look at the last 50 national polls. bernie beats him 47 out of 50. >> that was bernie sanders moments ago in winston-salem, north carolina, one of 14 states holding primaries super tuesday.

sanders' momentum as members of the democratic establishment concern party officials, telling "new york times" they're worried sanders would lose to president trump and drag down moderate congressional candidates in swing states, but speaker nancy pelosi dismissed reports of division amongst democrats. >> the presidential is its own race and contrary to what you may be hearing or writing, we are not getting -- we are all unified, whoever the nominee is of our party, we will wholeheartedly support. our gospel is one of unity, unity, unity. >> joining me, donna edwards, and rick tyler. welcome to you both. donna, start with you on this one. what is the fear here with senator bernie sanders because he is accurate in saying all the polls we have looked at show

bernie sanders beating donald trump in a general election. >> you know, i think the fear is frankly quite irrational because if we're going to consider polls where other candidates are put up against donald trump and they beat him, then we have to consider ones that show that bernie would beat him as well. and i agree with speaker pelosi that democrats if we are unified about one thing, it is that we want to defeat donald trump, we will be unified behind the top of the ticket, and as always, candidates make individual decisions about whether they're running with the top of the ticket or not. i have seen it in congressional race after congressional race where they make the individual decisions, and i feel confident that speaker pelosi will be able to hold the majority in the house, we may gain in the senate, and i think we can beat donald trump if all of us are

united behind the nominee for our party. rick, do you agree with doanna? >> we should have equal polls if somebody is beating donald trump. here's the problem. when you get to the general election, you begin to look at the trump campaign and rnc and combined forces spending upward of $100 billion against bernie sanders and they will begin to define him and begin to make the choice and i think bernie sanders is among the weakest candidates for things you could attack him on going into the general election. bernie sanders, he just said he was winning in all states, and he is, but bernie sanders, i'm not sure bernie sanders would win one state on super tuesday were it not for so many other moderate candidates in the race. and here's what's going to happen on super tuesday. you just go through all the states and you have elizabeth warren actually doing well in

california, she's doing well in massachusetts, she may have beat bernie, will take delegates out of there. taking delegates out of the rich delegate state of texas, amy klobuchar will probably win minnesota, pete buttigieg will probably not win nearly anything on super tuesday, and then you have biden doing well in the south with the african-american voters, and you have bloomberg doing fairly well in the south. they're going to divide up all that vote and bernie will clean up on delegates and be way ahead on super tuesday, but it is unclear whether he can beat donald trump. >> donna, how significant do you think the clyburn endorsement was of biden in south carolina? >> i think it is very significant and i think the other candidates would have wanted that endorsement as well, but look, i think we are still a long way from determining who the nominee for the democratic party will be. and i fully expect joe biden is going to have a rather

tremendous win in south carolina and that that will buoy him through the super tuesday states. i think we can't count elizabeth warren out yet. this is not a done deal. that's why i think we should tamp down on anxiety about bernie sanders and figure out how it is we're going to get to a neimominee and have a convent where we come out a unified party. we know the extension threat posed by donald trump and need to beat him at the polls. if somebody wants to beat bernie, get out and beat him for pete's sake. >> bernie, weigh in on this report about interviewing 93 super delegates saying bernie sanders needs to have a majority versus plurality for them to move forward with him, if not, could feasibly be a brokered convention. >> well, those are the rules and the rules that the dnc laid out and everybody is playing by the rules, they're in there for a reason. if they don't like the rules, they should have changed the rules. those are the rules they're

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