sage. good evening and welcome to "politicsnation." coming to you live from selma, alabama on the 55th anniversary of bloody sunday when civil rights activists were brutally attacked as they marched across the edmund pettus bridge in defense of black voting rights. earlier today i crossed that very same bridge in commemoration. we were joined by movement survivors and activists of today

and several democratic presidential candidates. their presence here a testament to just how critical the black vote is to the modern democratic party and its presidents. last night in south carolina joe biden's campaign was reinvigorated largely by black voters in this state. nbc news projecting him the resounding winner of the south carolina primary at 48% ahead of bernie sanders at 20% and tom steyer now out of the race at 11%. biden picks up 38 delegates. he now sits at second in delegate count, seven behind sanders. of course, in the two days, the diversity of nearly the entire nation will be engaged by the candidates. we start off tonight looking ahead to super tuesday as the map expands and the race constricts.

joining me is 2020mental candidate senator amy klobuchar of minnesota. senator, thank you. thank you for marching. >> thank you. it was an honor to be marching there with you, thank you. >> tell us, as we get into super tuesday and the race, how important -- you heard the speakers today at the church brown chapel where dr. king and others operated, and i was one of the speakers emphasizing voting rights. that's what today was about 55 years ago. that's what it is about today. >> it is. all the things we're talking about, health care, college, none of it can happen if people don't have the right to vote. it is everything from getting rid of the purging to the gerrymandering to my bill to register every kid in the country automatically to vote when they turn 18. that is what i have worked on this for years now, and i have been stonewalled by the republican party. one of the reasons i'm running

for president is i want to get this done. there's a lot of support out there. stacy ab bramgs said it best, you don't lose your right to worship if you don't go to church or synagogue for a year. you don't lose your right to assemble if you don't go to a meeting like we went to today. you shouldn't lose your right to vote if you don't vote for a year or two. that's what's happening with the purges. >> when we look at the votes from south carolina where the majority of the voters are black, this is the first time we've seen that. we saw this resounding vote for the former vice president joe biden who is also with us in selma today. does that in any way discourage you? are you thinking about dropping out? are you going to hang in there? what does the future look like for amy klobuchar? >> i know i'm not as well known as the vice president. he's had a lot of support for good reason in the african-american community for

years. it's on me to earn it. as you said, we'll have a third of the nation vote on tuesday, big states, nearly all primaries. my state minnesota is on the ballot. in that state it's between two people, me and senator sanders. no one else is even close. that's going to be a big race in our state. i'm about six, seven points ahead of him now. i've been traveling all over the country. i've been in arkansas, north carolina last night, tennessee and continuing on including right here in alabama. it's a national campaign. >> you've heard the argument that the centrists need to unite behind one candidate if they're going to fight the, quote, progressiv progressives, and i suppose some of the progressives would like to see whether liz warren or bernie sanders -- do you feel that's unfair to categorize everyone? >> i feel my ideas are bold.

you make progress when you're a progressive. i've made a lot of progress. i've passed over 100 bills as the lead democrat. this field, as you know, started with 25 people, including incredible people that have gotten out of the race. it's narrowed down. i'm sure it will nair redown again. i think the point is only 3% of americans have voted. super tuesday will be a critical day. >> at what point do you have to make a decision that you're going to stay or not? you saw tom steyer drop out. is there a point that you said i'm going to make a decision one way or another, or are you going to hang in there no matter what? >> i think everyone makes their own decision based on where they are with the combine, how they feel about it. i've always said i want to go through super tuesday because that's when a lot of people vote. i think that's a good thing to do. i don't think you want to limit it to the four early states. the fact that i'm fifth now for votes, fifth for votes, fifth for delegates.

not as good as being one, but the point is this was a long process, i'm now number five and that's a lot better than a lot of people ended up. so i want to make sure i give it a big try here across the country. >> one of the things that many of us have talked about, that 2020 should be the year of the woman. >> uh-huh. >> yet there's only two women candidates left in this race. there were several, but it's only down to senator warren and you. and you've emphasize thad in your debates where, according to most -- i've been to every debate but maybe one. >> i always see you up there. you're in the front row. >> you've always performed well in the debates. why do you think the voters are not more behind one of the women? are we miscasting to say it's the year of the woman? what happened here? >> i think it's not over yet. liz begtd and i have both have strong performance z in debates.

not everyone has tuned in. more and more people are. that's one of the reasons i want to keep in this race because i know the more people listen to me, i've gone from hardly anyone knowing me in the country to a lot more people knowing me, including right here in alabama. i have a strong case to make. i'm only one of two candidates left in the midwest. i'm someone that's won in rural districts, suburban districts, republican districts. the way i look at it, seeing this incredible force of feyeri feyerick voters out there on that bridge, they've been carrying the force for a long time. one of my goals is to bring in some friends, bring in a coalition so we can win big and get things done like the voting rights bills we talked about, like doing something about investment in impoverished communities, expanding on criminal justice reform. >> would you take a number two slot? if you decided you couldn't make it as a presidential candidate,

would you accept the run for vice president? and if so, who would you not want to run on a ticket? >> well, i'm focused on the presidential race right now. you and i can always run together. >> you got around that one. presidential candidate and minnesota senator amy klobuchar. i have to ask you this. you made that statement that i agree with about the black community has been the base rock solid for the democratic party. you heard me say in my speech it's time for them to take us more -- more seriously. do you think that the party can do that and expand at the same time? because when we hear this expansion to get the trump-ites, it's like they're running away from us. >> they have to do both. we have to have huge voter

turnout in the african-american community and i think we can do both things. the economic issues that are facing people in rural areas, they don't have good enough housing just like urban areas, just like the african-american community. problems with child care, not enough child care that's affordable for people. problems with k-12 education. you've got to build this big coalition of people. i think we can do it. you saw it in 2018 in the house those governors erases in places like michigan, that was high turnout versus a bunch of other people that maybe stayed home in 2016. >> minnesota senator amy klobuchar, thank you. >> mr. sharpton, thank you. my colleague has an update on the coronavirus. lindsey. >> thanks, rev. the white house is urging americans to remain calm as new cases of the coronavirus are discovered in the united states. yesterday health officials in

washington state announced a man died from covid-19, the disease caused by this strain of the virus. it's the first known death in the united states. there are also new cases reported in illinois and rhode island and more in washington state. by our count that makes 74 confirmed cases of covid-19 in the u.s. here is what vice president mike pence said this morning on "meet the press." >> the encouraging news is, of the now 22 americans, including the man who sadly lost his life, the majority of them are recovering well. we have this man's family in our hearts and we'll keep all of throws that are dealing with and working to recover in our prayers. >> stay with msnbc tonight. we'll have more updates on coronavirus throughout the evening. rev, back to you. >> thank you, lindsey. turning back to the 2020 race, joe biden's landslide victory in

south carolina has breathed new life into his campaign. he has leapfrogged pete buttigieg and delegates now trailing front-runner bernie sanders by only seven. after the win last night, biden stood on the stage alongside congressman jim clyburn and told the world that he's back. listen. >> for those of you that have been knocked down, counted out, left behind, this is your campaign! just days ago, the president and the pundits declared this candidacy dead. now, thanks to all of you, the heart of the democratic party, we just won and we've won big because of you. >> could south carolina be a turning point that the biden campaign so desperately needed? joining me now democratic

congresswoman terri sewell of baem baealabama alabama. her district includes selma. she has endorsed joe biden for president. >> hi, rev, welcome to my hometown. >> quite an occasion here. it seems like a lot of people came this year and it was wonderful that john lewis who is obviously ailing surprised us when we got across the bridge. >> at the apex of the bridge. it reminds us of the resilience of the foot soldiers and just how the human will to not only live, but to fight for that which is right. he reminds us that, that we have more bridges to cross. he's getting stronger each and every day which is great. >> joe biden, the fact is that he so far has been able to win the black vote both in an almost two-thirds of it in south carolina. >> all 67 counties, yeah. >> but he also won the black vote in nevada which a lot of

people don't talk about. what is it that you think that means and what does that say to the other candidates including the front-runner bernie sanders? >> you know, i really think that joe speaks from the heart, and he's had years, decades of experience of being in the trenches fighting for so many other things that we value most, from civil rights to housing to poverty issues to voting rights, the fact that as a chair of the judicial committee he helped reauthorize it for 25 years. i think that joe -- my mom says it best. i think my mom is indicative of sort of the black women in alabama that really helped doug jones win. she believes that right now this can't be the new normal. this administration has taken a level of divisiveness that's just too much. she believes joe biden will bring civility back to the white house. he'll be ready day one on both foreign policy and domestic

policy. i also think people see his heart and they see that he sees them, he empathizes with their pain. i have to say for all of the candidates, we have to make sure we hold their feet to the fire when it comes to things like the voting rights act because we know progress is illusive and there will always be things -- a foot to try to negate the progress we've already made. the fact that the shelby decision really took the bite out of the voting rights act of 1965 means we've got work to do. it's great we had a democratic majority that passed hr-4 out of the house, but it's sitting on the senate side languishing. joe said he's committed to making sure that voting rights is the number one priority. >> there's been those pundits and some that claim to be experts that have said there's a generational divide in terms of the support of joe biden in the black and the white community. we didn't see that reflected

yesterday. >> we didn't. he actually won across all demographics, the african-american support. when i think about here in alabama, he has the support of our young dynamic mayor of birmingham, alabama, mayor randall whit ford who is 38. he also has the support of the young 28-year-old that became mayor of talladega, alabama. i think his support cuts across generations. i think that's because he has been in the trenches with us and he not only sees us, but he hears us and his pain -- he actually has experienced much of the pain that we talk about. he comes from a working class family. he knows what it's like to have to struggle for things. he also knows about loss and knows that very close up front. i think that for me, i believe he was the best person to truly carry the mantle of civil rights and voting rights for my district. that's why i supported him. >> you know, as i said with him

sitting there, i fought him on the crime bill. >> absolutely. as you did others. >> as i did others. sanders also voted for it, but i worked with him when he was vice president. what about the down ballot in terms of the other candidates? alabama las a primary that we'll know who the republican candidate may be -- we may know tuesday. there may be a runoff. what about the senate and the house races? are you concerned about who would head the ticket on the presidential level that would impact whether or not the democrats have a viable senate and house race? >> absolutely. i'm very concerned that down ballot races will be affected by the presidential nominee. that's another reason i believe that joe biden is uniquely situated in the sense that he will not only unify the party, but i think he'll also be able to help those down-ballot house

seats. i love having the gavel, even though as vice chair of ways and means i only get the gavel when the chairman has to use the bathroom. the reality is having the majority in the house and wanting to take back the senate, we need a candidate who can be the wind behind the backs of those candidates. i think that's why you've seen candidates like -- incumbents like joe cunningham in south carolina endorse biden. we see that in oklahoma. we saw that in alabama. we're seeing a lot of the vulnerable front line members support joe biden, and i think that's because we see he would be the best candidate to be able to help unify the party, but also make sure we hold on to the house, gain the senate, and i think that's important. >> all right. alabama congresswoman terri sewell, thank you so much. >> thank you again for being here in my hometown of selma. >> glad to be here. thank you. coming up, 14 states head to the

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welcome back to this special edition of "politicsnation" from selma, alabama. we are in the lead-up to super tuesday with more than 1,300 delegates, they will be determined and they're up for grabs. that includes 51 delegates right here in alabama, though few candidates have spent much time

here. joining me now is steven reid, the mayor of montgomery, alabama and erin haynes, editor at large of the 19th. she previously covered race and politics for associated press. let me ask you, mr. mayor, have you endorsed anyone yet? >> no, i have not reverend sharpton. >> it's sunday. super tuesday is two days away and the mayor of montgomery hasn't made an endorsement. why? >> i think because so many voters are all over the map in montgomery, alabama. in my young tenure, many of my voters want me to focus on the local politics and why they elected me in october. there's conversation about a number of candidates and their policies. we've been talking to all the candidates and all the campaigns about how their presidency would impact not only montgomery, but alabama and this nation. >> erin, you have covered race and politics as well, if not

better than most. we saw a huge black turnout for joe biden yesterday. and even when we saw a opposite turnout, not maybe as high or measured differently in nevada because that was a caucus and primary in the latino community, joe biden still won the black vote. what does that say to us? >> i think it says that the black primary is under way, starting with south carolina and rolling into the super tuesday states. joe biden has begun to show he's the candidate that has strength at least at this point with the black electorate. you saw it overwhelmingly, the black voters supporting him in south carolina. 60% overall, but 30% of younger black voters. what i heard when i was on the ground in south carolina and what i have heard from talking to black voters across the country over the past year is their top priority is beating donald trump in november, and the person that over and over again they say -- they feel is

best positioned to do that is joe biden. you saw him showing his strength today again with black voters, getting a standing ovation at brown ame church this morning. >> yeah, he did. he took on the issues -- he answered me when i said we wanted to have better slave masters. >> he wanted to serve, not be anyone's master. >> which is i think what people want to hear, mr. mayor, people that will take on the issues and they want us to advocate the issues. >> absolutely. i think when i talk to voters whether in heritage barber shop in montgomery, alabama, or just kind of around city hall after a city council meeting, what i'm hearing voters talk about in montgomery is who is addressing our issues, whether it's around decriminalization and criminal justice reform or access to health care as well as the overall economy. many people in montgomery, although the unemployment numbers are low, don't feel like they're seeing their wages grow at a point to where they can

feel the success we're seeing in the stock market. >> errin, here is a map showing states, showing the states with large hispanic populations. sanders is likely to do well on super tuesday in these states, big states like california and texas. california alone has more than 400 pledge delegates up for grabs. here is the map of super tuesday states where sizable black populations are, where biden is favored, north carolina, alabama, tennessee, virginia, oklahoma. so we could see some big wins on both sides if this continues where biden gets the majority of the black vote and sanders gets latino vote mixed with what they do in the white community, it could be the difference for them in certain states on tuesday. >> i think that's right. i think to your point, though, if we're talking about electability, what we're really talking about is what black and

brown voters are going to do. super tuesday is going to give us a bigger picture of that. >> they can't win without a big turnout without the black and latino vote. >> there is no path to the nomination without that. frankly, several candidates have been arguing that they'll be the one to put together the kind of coalition it would take to not only become the nominee, but also to defeat president trump in november. so far senator sanders and vice president biden are the only ones they can show they can coalesce. >> and turnout is the key. you're in office, mayor n a historic city. let me ask you in terms of the senate race, will doug jones who stood up with courage and voted for the conviction of donald trump, being a senator in a red state, as red as you can get, can he survive in november? >> i think he can. i think we're going to have to have record numbers come out in november. i think that depends on who the nominee is. i think it depends on what our

message is coming out of the democratic convention and what our infrastructure is. right now montgomery and the state of alabama has seen an unprecedented amount of infrastructure put in place by the bloomberg campaign. does that stay all the way through coupled with doug jones' campaign as well? that will help us because we're talking to voters now, not waiting until the last minute to ask black voters to come save the democratic party. >> got to go, but errin, he mentioned bloomberg. the first time he's on the ballot is tuesday. are we going to have any kind of measure -- does he have to reach a certain percentage to be viable, or do we see if he's certain low points around these primaries that it's a bust? what has bloomberg got to do? he was here marching. >> he was here. he was at the church and did address the audience. i think any candidate, quite frankly, who is not named joe biden at this point is going to have to show what they can do and how they plan to get the

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bernie sanders' delegate lead has narrowed. country goi count going into super tuesday, and he's seven delegates ahead of joe biden after south carolina, but still vastly ahead of the rest of the pack. according to most polls, he's leading in the two most delegate-rich super tuesday states, texas and california. joining me now congressman ro

khanna, co-chair of the bernie sanders presidential campaign. congressman khanna, let me ask you, how do you react to the huge victory by joe biden last night in south carolina? >> i congratulate vice president widen on his win. right now we're here in san jose. i just introduced senator sanders. there's 10,000 people, tremendous momentum. we're going to win california. we're going to come out with a big lead after super tuesday. >> do you think that being that the democratic party cannot win in november without a huge turnout of blacks and latinos, and the fact that so far senator sanders seems challenged with black voters, since we saw in nevada he won in every demo but

black votes, almost overwhelm g overwhelmingly, almost two-thirds of blacks voted for biden in south carolina. do you see that as a problem? if so, is there strategy to address it? or do you think these are things that will work themselves out and the sanders campaign is not concerned about it? >> reverend sharpton, the black american constituency is the core and the heart of the democratic party. we're winning according to the harris x poll and the reuters poll african-americans nationwide. we won in south carolina black voters under 30 and did very well with black voters under 50. so we're confident, as this goes to super tuesday, that senator sanders' message of giving medicare for all, tackling mass incarceration, making sure that we are funding public education in ways that account for the racial disparities, we'll resonate and have a big showing among african-american voters.

>> will the senator, if he is continuing to win, will he announce a vice presidential candidate? we hear rumors that people are calling, various people talking about doing -- breaking with tradition and announcing the ticket early whether they are the nominee or not. have you and the senator had any discussions along that line? >> i think he believes it's premature. he wants to earn every vote. he is not presumptuous at all. we want to make sure we're earning the majority on the first ballot. so he's focused right now on building the delegate majority to win and earn the nomination. then he'll think about a running mate. >> you think that the senator will win california. what about the other states? do you think he will have a problem in southern states like

alabama, virginia and other states that he seemed to have a problem, a big one in south carolina? >> i do not. i think he's going to do very well in virginia. the latest polls have us up. we had a big rally there. i think he's going to get our fair share of delegates in the south. we're absolutely committed to building a multicultural, multiracial coalition. by the way, he's going to when he's president, appoint a multicultural, multicracial coalition. >> the concern has been the down ballot. you've heard the argument will a socialist at the top of the ticket make us lose, not only the shot at getting the majority of the senate but may lose house seats and the fact that we are now facing what could be

something very problematic if it continues to grow in terms of the coronavirus. we need someone that could show the country they can manage. how does the sanders campaign answer the down-ballot concern and how do they answer that a guy like senator sanders is more capable than donald trump who has called the coronavirus, by the way, a hoax, but how he's more capable than him to handle a situation like this when we saw the obama administration handle the ebola scare and vice president was liss partner then. >> reverend sharpton, let me answer both questions. first on down-ballot, the biggest thing we need to do is have a record turnout to get voters to the polls. donald trump is going to have a record turnout. bernie sanders has shown that he can attract the broadest crowds, he can get young people, he can get women, people of color --

>> but congressman, we've not seen that big surge at the polls. the increase in iowa was only 1%, and the increase in new hampshire was in the suburbs and the exit polls said they went for buttigieg and went for klobuch klobuchar. we certainly didn't see it in south carolina. where has he demonstrated that capacity to do a big turnout? >> we saw increases in new hampshire and nevada, but we also are building the foundation. i believe they're going to show up when donald trump is on the ballot. that's very different than a primary election. if you look at the organizing he's done across the country, he has the best coalition to get that turnout. i also think, reverend sharpton, this charge of socialism, they made that charge against harry truman, they made that charge against dr. king, against barack obama. that charge is something the republicans always throw out there. bernie sanders is just talking about common sense.

getting us out of bad wars and investing in education and infrastructure and health care. so i actually think he's the best to lead on the coronavirus. i mean think about it. we're only as safe as the least ensured amongst us. people are concerned about getting a test because they don't want to pay the $3,000 in a fee. what bernie sanders would do is make sure that the testing is free for everyone, the treatment is free. >> certainly sitting here in selma, i would totally agree with you they use the red scare on the civil rights leaders ahead of me and even those ma then tored me, to try to tag them as communists or socialists, that's a tactic that many of us in the activist spot of the black community know well. you're correct. that is unfair and that has a long history. sanders campaign national co-chair ro khanna, thank you for joining me.

joining me now is the mayor of austin steve adler from the pete buttigieg campaign. thank you for joining us. let me ask you, mr. adler, what is the strategy going forward? pete buttigieg didn't do well at all in south carolina. he's yet to win any of the primaries and caucuses he's in. he was in selma with us today, marched with us across the bridge. at what point does pete buttigieg have to wonder does he have to do what tom steyer and others have done and that's pull out? or do you think that somewhere down the road there will be a turn of events that will benefit his candidacy? >> reverend sharpton, thank you for the opportunity to be with you here this afternoon. when you take a look at what mayor pete has done, it's actually been pretty amazing. a year ago nobody knew who he

was, nobody could pronounce his name. we've gone through the first four contests and he's either won or tied two of them. he's in the top three with delegate totals. i think he has his work cut out for him because he's introducing himself to people in ways that the other candidates have been around for a long time. but just remember that we've nominated as democrats some wonderful people to be president, senator kerry and senator gore, secretary clinton. but when we've actually won the white house, we've won the white house by nominating a candidate that represents generational change, someone not associated with washington, d.c. we've nominated people like mayor pete. i think that this is a race unlike anything we've seen before. there are a lot of states that are going to be decided on super tuesday, but there's almost as many delegates being decided in the balance of march. i think that as we get through

the end of march, we're going to see that pete is in a really strong position to be able to win the nomination. >> there has been the reports that there's the real division between those that are considered centrists and those that are considered progress sive, and those on the centrist side like mayor pete and others ought to at some point support one centrist candidate because, if not, they feel that senator sanders is going to be a sure bet for the nomination. do you agree with that theory? and do you agree that pete buttigieg fits in the centrist column? >> you know, i think that as the race goes forward, more and more people are going to drop out of the race and it's going to narrow. if pete were elected president, he'd be the most progressive president this country has had in 50 years.

but i think that what he brings is the real promise of being able to deliver on progressive ideas. i think coming forward with medicare for all who want it is an actual path to get to that place. his gun proposaproposals, good sense gun proposals actually provide a path to be able to get there. i think he's the most electable. i think he is the one that's going to be able to beat trump. i really look forward to seeing the two of them on a debate stage. he's going to provide the greatest contrast with president trump and i think people have seen him. people are still learning about him. he says that running for president is an act of hope and humility, and he's running that way. he continues to run that way. he has a task set out for him to continue to introduce himself. but as he does that, he's winning delegates that no one thought he would be able to win.

>> all right, mayor steve adler, thank you for being with us. we're just two days away from super tuesday and senator elizabeth warren remains in fourth place in the zdelegate count plus he her home state of massachusetts which votes on tuesday, shows her in a deet heat with bernie sanders. joining me is maya rupert, formerly from the hul jan castro campaign and is now senior adviser to elizabeth warren. let me start by saying, ms. rupert that elizabeth warren was here today, marched with us here in selma. it seems that a lot of people felt a couple months ago she was up in the polls, she had a lot of promise and then she started dropping and has not been able to recover. how do you explain that and do you think that given the results

of the voting so far where she's not been in the top three in the caucuses and the primaries, do you think that there's some need to stop and pause and analyze where she is or you think she will catch fire with voters as we move forward? >> well, first of all, thanks so much for having me. i think obviously during the course of the campaign we're constantly looking, seeing if things are resonating and thinking about things. but no, truthfully i think what we're seeing is exactly what -- this is in line with what our thinking was, and that was that we were going to build early in states, make sure we have a really strong ground game in a lot of states. yes the early states, yes the super tuesday states, but honestly states that will be voting over the course of march. in that time people will get a chance to see who she is and what she's about. one of the reasons we have been

so adamant about not overcrediting polls and sort of chasing them is because i think what we're seeing is this race is very volatile. you mentioned she wasn't in the top three. she was in iowa. she came in third. but what we've seen is that those spots have really traded off, and they've done so a lot throughout these first four contests. most people haven't even voted yet. we're really looking at this the same way we have been from the beginning, it's a long game. you're up in the polls sometimes, down in the polls sometimes. a lot of times what fails to be captured is the excitement and momentum on the ground. that's an entirely organized game. >> but let me raise this. after taking it easy on sanders throughout most of the campaign, warren went after him last night in houston. take a listen to this. >> this crisis demands more than a senator who has good ideas but whose 30-year track record shows

he consistently calls for things that fail to get done and consistently opposing things that nevertheless he fails to stop. >> that's a pretty hard attack, maya, to go after bernie sanders, a fellow progressive saying 30 years never got nothing done, good ideas. is there now a new strategy with the warren campaign that we've got to go after senator sanders in order to fire up more support for ourselves? >> i've got to say, i wouldn't agree with a characterization that that's much of an attack. senator warren and senator sanders agree on so many things. they share a lot of values. i think you hear her saying that over and over again, that he has a lot of good ideasment i think the contrast she's trying to draw there which is what i think this is. it doesn't feel like an attack. but it does feel like this is the moment that voters want to see those contrasts. the difference is there are a lot of people who shared values and want to get progressive

things done. what she has, which is what people are looking for, is a track record of actually doing it. i think maybe in that contrast -- >> but why are they not voting for her? if that's the contrast, why hasn't she gotten more votes in the first four votes in terms of caucuses and prior mmaries? >> i think this is so early in the process. we've gotten the first four contests done, but we're looking towards super tuesday. it's hard because so often we talk about this in terms of who won what state. that's really not what these contests are. they're a contest for delegates. what we're looking at is to continue to work hard in each state, accumulate delegates and march forward. i really feel like this is so early in this process, it's really difficult to start already analyzing -- >> let me ask you one last question. i think that's fair, but let me

ask you one last question. if she loses her home state of massachusetts on tuesday, should she pull out? if she loses at home, that knows all the things she delivered and he has not, if she loses, does that mean it's time to call it for the curtains to close and that we go home and do something else, senator warren? >> no, i don't think so at all. i don't think a single state, regardless of the state, is going to be the thing that makes the decision. really, for anything in this cycle. i think what we're saying, again, is what we're seeing is it's volatile. these things are moving very quickly. but they're moving a lot. so i mean, again, losing the state, winning the state. the question is delegate accumulation. so we really feel confident we're going to be able to get delegates out of massachusetts, but beyond that, in a lot of states on super tuesday. there will be a lot of candidates to have to make that hard assessment, and senator warren is not going to be one of

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people were beaten just because they wanted to march to montgomery to exercise the protest movement to deal with the lack of restoring and respecting blacks' right to vote, they were beaten on that bridge. reverend jose williams as well as ms. boykin, who i got to know in my youth, both of them, and of course, john lewis, the congressman, who is now suffering from cancer but surprised us today as we got halfway across the bridge, he showed up and addressed the crowd for a while. and i thought about how on yesterday, in the deep south, in south carolina, people voted in big numbers because john lewis and jose williams and others and martin luther king suffered to get the right to vote. i thought about how as i talk today with former vice president

joe biden here in selma, who was the recipient of many of those votes, how we should not take that vote for granted. the vote, particularly for black americans, is soaked in the blood of martyrs and is something that was not automatic. there are threats now to minimize and take that vote again, with all kinds of schemes. by purging voter records, 300,000 in georgia just recently, by changing voting sites, by putting up restrictions that were never there before. we must make it as a real priority issue in the 2020 race, whether it's russian interference, whether it's purging voters, whether it is trying to take people and move the polls that they're familiar with, voting rights is nonnegotiable. that does it for me from selma, alabama. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next

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