>> if there's something that the sober world can teach everyone else, it's that dignity and respect, when it's sprinkled on human beings, the most powerful drug that we possess. it happens on tv. doesn't happen to your family. to your brother. but it does. >> no one thought it could happen to him. he was a tough guy prepared for anything. >> he always would say, if anyone tries to break in here, i'll kill them. >> instead, he was killed, stabbed in his own home. >> you're sure your dad's cold to the touch? >> his son and daughter-in-law stumbled into a terrifying scene. >> that's when i saw the gun. >> they want, we're going to have to kill you now. >> a strange story that only got

stranger. >> they had purple gloves on. >> and they had blue, fuzzy gloves. >> something isn't right here. >> could he have killed his own father? what really happened in that house? >> i did not do this. >> then a witness came forward and changed everything. in this bizarre story, the strangest thing of all is the truth. >> he planned for any scenario, except for the one that happened to him. >> there are people on this gorgeous sun-kissed planet of ours who get up each morning to the miracle of being alive and worry. not that there aren't things to worry about, of course. whether we can do anything about them or not. but some people worry a very great deal indeed and do try to be prepared for whatever. and one of those prepared people was a brilliant retired university professor named kay

mortensen whose sister was a woman named fern. >> i said, kay what would happen if i'm not prepared and i'm hungry or my kids are hungry, can we come to your house? he said, no, i'm probably just shoot you. jestingly, he wouldn't have, but he was definitely willing to protect what he had. >> oh, yes, he certainly was. and sure enough, one night -- >> 911, what's the address of your emergency? >> but we're getting ahead of ourselves. what happened that night was a long time coming. it was long before that when kay became a survivalist. with attitude. >> you knew exactly what he thought about everything. even though he knew what he was saying was going to be outrageous and not accepted, he would say it anyway. >> he had a black belt in karate. he owned scores of firearms. kept guns in just about every room of the house.

and in all of his cars. a fully stocked concrete bunker outside his home in payson, utah. >> he had food, he had everything there, you know. water, way to go to the bathroom, magazines, books to read. >> kay was very clear about it with his wife, darla. >> he says, this is where you and i are going to end up because there's going to be a nuclear war. i'd say, i don't want to live if everyone else is dying. so -- oh, he was a true patriot. he worried about things and wanted to be prepared for the civil war that was going to erupt. so he was a little over the top. >> darla wasn't thrilled about it, but she accepted him and his radical views. after all, they were still kind of in their honeymoon phase. >> it was all kind of surreal. i think we both felt like we were back being teenagers again. because we both, you know, hadn't really had love for quite

a few years. >> they'd found each other late in life after both had raised families. kay had three adult children by then, one of them, his eldest, roger, stayed close. >> he was my best friend. we did everything together. >> mind you, roger was not at all like kay. for one thing, he'd suffered a brain injury in an accident years ago, so unlike kay, he couldn't work much, lived on disability. but he liked to hang out with his dad. >> we lived less than a mile apart because we did enjoy spending so much time together. if i ever needed help, he'd be there in a minute to help me. >> although, said roger's wife pam, it wasn't always easy. that's just the way kay was wired. >> roger's dad was a very strong-willed person. it was his way or the highway. >> so roger learned early to shy away from confrontation with his father. >> if he said something that roger maybe disagreed or wanted

to do it a different way, roger would leave, he would come back, and everything would be good again. >> not at all how it was with his new love, darla. when she was around, they said, kay's tough hide melted. >> we knew then that he really loved her and he was willing to compromise and do some things so that he could make her happy also. >> did it seem to soften him up a little bit? >> yes, it did. >> a lot. >> it did. >> so kay and darla got married. >> there's something slightly miraculous about relationships later in life, where they can save people from themselves in some way, from all the crust that's grown over the years. just kind of peel it off and become the fun person they used to be. >> and that's what i felt like. i just thought, he put on this armor as this tough man and didn't want you to see that he was vulnerable, and you know, see who he was. and i was able to peel off that and get down to his soul.

>> they were as happy as either one of them had ever been. >> he'd say, what else do we need to do? we're retired, we have plenty of money, we'll just have fun. >> kay was a rich man, made most of his money buying gold at $250 an ounce, said darla. >> he just had the foresight. he'd always -- he was, you know -- the dollar bill's not going to be worth anything. >> he put his money into a trust so that roger and his other children would inherit everything once he was gone. heaven knows he wasn't spending it. worth millions, but -- >> he was very frugal. very frugal. and i just -- i used to say to him, you know, like -- he just -- i'd say, when is it you're going to spend your money, you know? what are you waiting for? >> so kay promised darla he'd travel with her, see the world. but he made sure his bunker was stocked. h that he kept his guns close to hand. just in case.

and then it was november 16th, 2009. darla was away watching her granddaughters. kay was alone at his house in pays payson. >> 911, what's the address of your emergency? >> it was evening when the call came in. >> i -- i have help on the way but i just need to get some information. are you sure that he's dead? >> darla was on her way home. her cell phone chirped. it was a neighbor. >> he says, something's terrible happened up payson canyon, i think it's at your house. >> darla's mind flashed to kay and his guns. >> and i thought, oh my gosh, he's probably shot somebody, an invader or something. >> she phoned a family friend. >> i said, something's going on, i'm alone, i need to be with somebody, can you come down and be with me? >> chris rushed to meet darla at the foot of the canyon. police had blocked off the phone that led to kay and darla's house. now darla and chris thought exactly the same thing.

>> kay probably shot someone. coming up, it turned out kay never got the chance. >> are you sure your dad's cold to the touch? >> roger mortensen makes an agonizing discovery and stumbles directly into a murder scene. >> after we were tied up, they said that, well, i'm sorry, but you've seen our faces, we're going to have to kill you now. >> when "mystery in payson canyon" continues. i'm your 70lb st. bernard puppy, and my lack of impulse control, is about to become your problem. ahh no, come on. i saw you eating poop earlier. hey! my focus is on the road, and that's saving me cash with drivewise. who's the dummy now? whoof! whoof! so get allstate where good drivers save 40% for avoiding mayhem, like me.

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everyone knew that kay mortensen was always prepared. surrounded himself with a veritable arsenal of firearms. just a tough old bird who could defend himself against just about anything. >> he always would say, if anyone tries to break in here, i'll kill them. >> but life, no matter how well we prepare, is full of rude surprises. as it was for kay mortensen. it was november 16th, 2009, just before thanksgiving.

>> hi, this is -- we have the police on the way to help you there, are you sure your dad's cold to the touch? >> kay did not shoot some intruder as he'd long promised he was prepared to do. no, somebody killed him. without firing a shot. and the man on the phone reporting the crime? roger mortensen, kay's eldest son. >> sliced his throat? >> yes. >> it wasn't long before kay's wife darla had made it to the mouth of the canyon and was led to the command post that had been set up just down the hill from their home. that's where they gave her the news. >> your life just comes tumbling down. you know, you have it all planned out. you think you know what it's going to be. and then everything's gone. >> kay caught off guard? not kay, thought darla, impossible.

but that seemed to be just what happened. at least that's what roger and pam told the police, and later us. and a very strange story it was that began, they said, when pam received a pie at work as a gift. >> we knew how much he loved that pecan pie, and we decided as soon as she got home from work, to take him that pie. >> so they said they went to his house, intending to drop off the pie, and then leave. but when they got there, they said, there was an unfamiliar car in the driveway. pam said she knocked on the door and a young man answered. >> i said, is kay here? he said, he is, he's upstairs. i said, we're just here to drop off a pie. and they said, go ahead in. i got to about the landing when i was asked to come back down. i heard the door shut. and when i turned around, that's when i saw the gun. >> what was it like to see that? >> it was a shock. as soon as we turned around and saw the gun, another guy started

walking down the stairs also. he had it in his hand, a lot of zip ties. they turned to us and said, you're here at the wrong place, wrong time, pull out your hand. >> did they look like they meant business? like they were angry, scary, or what? >> they didn't. to me they didn't look scary, except for they were holding a gun in their hands. >> the intruders zip tied their wrists, forced them down on the living room floor, then zip tied their ankles. >> after we were tied up they said that, well, i'm sorry, but you've seen our faces, we're going to have to kill you now. >> what's the like to hear that? >> it was horrifying, and we believed we would be killed on the spot. >> pam, quaking in terror, she said, looked up at a picture of jesus that was hanging on the living room wall. >> i kept thinking, heavenly father, if you really love me and care for me, please make us get through this. and it calmed me to keep looking at that picture of christ.

and to be able to help roger stay calm. >> that really had an impact on you? >> it did. >> huh, why? >> it just brought me comfort, it brought me peace, to know that -- >> even if they killed you? >> to know that the -- my heavenly father loves me and that he would do the right thing for me. >> both men left the room, they said, and then roger began praying aloud. he was in mid-sentence, he said, when the men walked back in and something quite amazing happened. >> my wife nudged me and she says, okay, be quiet, they're back. one of them says, no, that's okay, keep praying, go ahead. and they both folded their arms in front of them and bowed their heads and listened to me as i continued this entire prayer. >> how weird is that? >> when i got done with the prayer we both sat down. their demeanor changed at that point. one of them looked at us and

says, well, we've decided we're not going to kill you. we've decided that we're going to tell you a story that you need to relay to the police. >> what was that story that the intruders told them to say? that three black men with ski masks invaded the house. three, not two, as they actually were. black, not white, as they actually were. and then, said roger, they took his driver's license, told him they'd know if he or pam ever told the truth, and if that happened, they'd hunt him down and they'd kill him. then the two men left. roger and pam waited awhile, got out of the zip ties, and roger ran upstairs while pam dialed 911 and was on the phone with the operator when roger found his father in the upstairs bathroom. >> and i saw my father kneeling over the bathtub. his feet were tied, and he was -- his head was down in the bathtub. >> inconceivable.

tough, resilient, armed to the teeth kay murdered with his own kitchen knife? what a story. erica newt sen, then a sergeant with the utah county sheriff's office, was assigned as one of the lead detectives. he was sitting in the office when from up to the house the first officer to talk with pam and roger called him. >> and said, you know, something isn't right here, it seems from his perception that maybe this is -- some things were staged or some things were just not what he would think would be normal for a crime as heinous or vicious as this. >> something about that bizarre story didn't sit right. he just couldn't put his finger on it. not yet, anyway. coming up, problem was, that bizarre story got weirder by the minute. >> they had purple gloves on, purple, you know, medical gloves. >> and they had blue, fuzzy gloves. looked like women's winter

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was horrific, humiliating. helpless to defend himself inside his own sacred fortress. the killer had bent him over his own bathtub, slashed his throat several times. all those guns and not a single one fired. it seemed so personal. sergeant eric knutzen of the utah county sheriff's office got a briefing from the first officer at the scene who turned on his audio record where he met kay's son roger and roger's wife pam. roger had found the body and was already suggesting possible killers. >> he told me he had an appointment for lunch at noon with a guy names mike kipp discussing $25,000 worth of guns. >> mike dkipp? mike was kay's former student. >> roger and pam identify him real quick, he's involved, he owes my dad money, he's the one who did this.

>> roger told detectives that kay was holding a collection of mike's weapons, about 30 of them, mostly pistols and rifles and some shotguns. kay put the guns in his bunker. roger thought there might be a grudge involved. when detectives went to look for the guns, they were gone. >> so we pull in michael kipp that night too. we interview him. and we can get his alibi. it's quick. >> nothing suspicious about it, it turned out. mike had not a thing to do with kay's murder. he simply needed money, and kay agreed to buy his guns. by now tips were coming in. >> and this female said, it's the baker boys. she said, the baker boys did this. >> the baker boys were brothers who, fairly or not, had developed a reputation as the town's troublemakers. detectives found them. they had solid alibis. then the next day another tip. a woman who implicated her own

husband. >> he came home last night, the time frame before the homicide, he grabbed a bunch of stuff including a knife, and he's been looking for guns, so i know he's involved. >> but the woman's husband was eventually eliminated as a suspect. detectives hoped maybe the stolen guns would lead them to kay's killer. >> and we recovered a lot of firearms that were stolen, just again, none linked. >> that just highlighted another aspect of the mystery. kay, remember, collected firearms, had close to 100 valuable guns locked up at his house. yet the thieves just stole the cheaper ones from the bunker. >> pretty bizarre robbery, to take those guns and not take the far more valuable collection that kay had? >> agreed. >> in fact, the inside of kay's house was pristine, untouched, no sign anybody had stolen anything. if this was a home invasion, it was an odd one. but by then, truth be told,

detectives were already homing in on the two people who admitted they were there the whole time, kay's son roger and his wife pam. >> you're sure that he's dead? >> starting with that 911 call they made, something odd about it. >> didn't sound how i would think that a phone call should be made to 911 after discovering your father had just been killed with the throat cut and zip tied in the bathtub. >> roger and pam, said the detectives, appeared to be unemotional, uncaring, even callous. even though they claimed that gunmen stood over them, kept them hostage for almost two hours, at first pam couldn't seem to describe the man. >> the guy who had the gun what did he look like? white guy, black guy, his pan nick. >> ma'am, i don't know. >> she seemed uncertain even about the number of gunmen. >> how many were there? how many guys were there? >> um -- there could have been three. >> listen to what happened next. roger took the phone and changed

the story. >> were they white, black, hispanic? >> they were white. >> three white males, okay, but -- >> two white males. >> two white males? >> roger explained the reason for all the apparent confusion, that if they ever revealed what their captors looked like, they'd be hunted down and killed. >> did you buy that? >> not really, i didn't. they didn't appear fearful. they were saying it, they weren't really acting fearful. >> anyway, why would vicious killers not have killed them too? night of the murder, knutzen interviewed them. >> my name's erica newt zen. >> i'm pal. >> nervous, agitated? >> not nervous or agitated, unemotional. >> even at times cold toward the victim, roger's father. >> he's a cantankerous old fart. >> as they told their story, detectives started noticing subtle differences. >> they had blue fuzzy gloves. they looked like women's winter

driving gloves or something. the fuzzy kind. >> they had -- i know they had purple gloves on. purple, you know -- medical gloves. >> lots of details on which they didn't agree. so sergeant knutzen decided to employ a well-known police interview technique. he got tough, accusing. >> quite frankly, i think the story's a bunch of crap. i think the story's a bunch of crap that you and roger have come up with, okay? >> sorry you don't believe me. but -- >> i'm trying to. >> does it sound too rehearsed? or -- >> yeah. >> okay. >> i want them to say, i had nothing to do with this. you know? detective, you're crazy, i had nothing to do with this, that's what i wanted to hear. and it never came out. at some point roger just kind of shrugged it off and laughed. >> did either one of them say anything during these conversations that -- from a factual or substantive point of view made you think, that's a fact that points to them as real

suspects? >> no. they didn't make any confession or any statement where i all of a sudden said, hey, yeah, they're absolutely the ones who did it. that never did come out. >> but listen to what did come out. >> is your husband capable of killing somebody? >> i wouldn't hope -- i mean, i wouldn't think he is. i wouldn't think that he's capable of killing his father. >> a search of roger and pam's home showed they appeared to be in financial trouble. detectives found collection notices and unsent mortgage coupons, suggesting at least that they were behind in their house payments. >> i know we're in a lot of debt. but we -- i, personally, would not have my father-in-law killed for his money. >> and yet, as roger told the detective -- >> i get a big share of my dad's millions too. >> within days of the murder,

pam and roger agreed to go back to the house with detectives for a videotaped retelling of their intruder story. >> at the front door, my wife was holding the pyrite here. >> that provide you any useful information? >> it provided useful information from our standpoint as far as more circumstantial evidence that they're not being 100% truthful. >> once again, detectives heard foggy memories. >> she either knocked on the door or rang the doorbell, i believe she knocked on the door. >> they heard dialogue that sounded like a bad crime movie. >> he pointed at us and said, you're here at the wrong time, put up your hands. >> then there was that same strange lack of emotion. when roger described what should have been the worst moment of his life -- >> i came back downstairs and my wife was talking at the time to 911 dispatch. and i said, he's dead. >> roger and pam took a

polygraph test. and what do you know, roger was found to be deceptive. and pam was jumpy. the operator couldn't complete the test. but still, roger and pam swore up and down they had nothing to do with it, they were victims themselves. truth be told, the police needed some real evidence. and out of the blue, something arrived. coming up -- that new evidence, something else that was strange. someone saw the killing in a dream. >> so i have a photo lineup drawn up up and she puts her finger on it. puts it right on roger's face. >> when "mystery in payton canyon" continues. better than g. better than g. we got oak, cherry, walnut, and more. and we also have the best selection of plywood (clattering) in the state... hey! (high-pitched laughter)

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presidential candidate to earn primary delegates. france has closed the world-famous louvre museum amid concerns over the spread of coronavirus. this comes as u.s. officials announce not only the death of a second victim in washington state but also the first known case of the virus in new york city. within days of kay mortensen's murder, members of his family began hearing deeply troubling reports from the u.s. county sheriff's office. the investigation was leading, sure as can be, detectives told them, to kay's own son, roger, and roger's wife, pam. darla said she couldn't believe it at first. >> i was just adamant that they couldn't have done it. i was their biggest defender. >> but then detectives asked her to listen to roger and pam's recorded statements, and she too started to wonder. >> they told lies. and then it got -- it just put more suspicion on them.

>> gradually her conviction grew. same for kay's sister fern. >> when you saw those tapes and read transcripts and so on, what did you think? >> i could buy the fact that they were thinking of roger's involvement. >> there were just too many things about roger and pam's story that didn't make any sense to fern. and there was something else too. a possible witness. remember that woman who suspected her husband was involved? the police found them here in salt lake city at a drug binge with some friends. they were high on meth. and one of the people there, a woman named cammy bills, told the detectives she had a story to tell about a dream she'd had. >> she describes in what she calls a dream seeing somebody get killed. she describes being outside of a room. she describes a female off to her left crying in hysterics.

she describes three or four males in the bathroom. and she says there's one male who i think is related to the female that's on the floor screaming. >> and remember, the woman was on methamphetamine, reporting not what she saw, but what she dreamed she saw. still, you never know till you ask. >> so i have a photo lineup drawn up. and she stares at it, she puts her head down, she puts her finger on it. she puts it right on roger's face. >> the next day, detectives took cammy to day's house, showed her the crime scene. and again, she named roger. >> i can't really see roger. just arms. he's holding kay. >> you don't hear a story like that and say, wow, that's a piece of crap. go on from there? >> no, not when she gives that amount of detail. >> detectives kept the rest of the mortensen family informed of developments. >> what did this do to you?

>> on, man. it just -- it threw me for a loop. >> when pam and roger attended kay's funeral, the tension was thick. >> it was very difficult to be there, because everybody wanted to know what happened that night. >> but they couldn't say anything, said pam, detectives told them not to. >> my sister came up to me at one point and says, tell me what really happened. and i told her, i'm sorry, i cannot talk about this. >> shortly after roger and pam took the polygraph test and were told about the dismal results, they hired a lawyer. few in the mortensen family could understand why they would do a thing like that if they were innocent, that is. >> i tried to say, what would i do if i was in their situation? i would do everything i could to help get these people that had caused such horror in their lives and murdered kay. >> on the advice of their attorneys, roger and pam stopped talking. and the lopsided rift in the mortensen family widened from

mistrust to anger to outright accusation. chris andris, the woman darla called the night of the murder, was one of very few people who continued to support roger and pam. >> they were left to hang out and dry. >> how did you feel about that? oh, so angry. i was just so, so angry. i couldn't believe that -- that you could love somebody and do that to them. even if i thought roger had done it, i would not have abandoned him. >> and they did? >> oh, absolutely did. not only did they abandon him, they crucified him. >> months dragged by. roger and pam were headline news in utah. but in the absence of definitive physical evidence linking them to kay's murder, they remained free. day by day they went about their business as if their lives were still quite normal. then on july 28th, 2010, utah county prosecutor tim taylor took a dramatic step to break the logjam. he presented the case against

roger and pam to a grand jury. >> so why call the grand jury? why not just charge them? >> we thought the grand jury was a great tool to force them to come in to talk. >> it was a secret proceeding. no defendants, no defense attorney, only prosecutors, police, some members of the mortensen family, even some of pam's co-workers, all in front of 16 jurors whose job was to decide whether or not they should charge roger and pam with kay's murder. and in just over an hour, the jury decided to indict. >> so what did that say to you? >> well, there was enough -- >> eight months after kay mortensen was found dead in his home, roger and pam were deposited in the county jail. chris andris, the family friend who still believed they were innocent, went to roger's

sister. >> and i said, julie, we need some money to hire an attorney for roger. we think pam's family can come up with money for pam but we've got to get him a separate attorney, can you help me? there's millions of dollars in the trust. she told me, her words were, not one red penny will be spent on his defense. >> julie told us she did not use those specific words, but she said the family was advised by their attorney not to use kay's money to pay for roger's defense. which meant that roger, who stood to inherit a big chunk of his dad's millions, would have to rely on a public defender. were he and pam diabolical killers as detectives and their own family had come to believe? of course we and everybody else just had to know. coming up -- >> we told them everything that happened. they just didn't believe it. they didn't believe that two people would kill one person and leave two more alive.

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prosecutors in utah county along with rogers's family and many of their one-time friends lined up against roger and pam mortensen as they sat in jail charged with murdering roger's father, kay, and awaited their day in court. the evidence against them? their strange demeanor, their alleged financial trouble, roger's failed polygraph. but mostly, according to detectives, busy a bizarre and ever-changing story they told about the night of the murder. what was the truth?

we asked the only people who knew for sure, starting at the begin, with that strange 911 call. >> who held you hostage? >> um -- i don't know. >> our viewers hear that 911 call and think, wait a minute, something's wrong there, that doesn't -- you know, people scream on 911 calls, they're crazed. >> and i think i was in a lot of shock too. and i don't know the real reason why i was -- i could stay as calm as i can, but i just -- that's just my personality and that's the type of person i am. >> and although she didn't sound like it, she was terrified, she said. their captors had just threatened to kill them if they told the truth. >> when the 911 operator asked me, how many were there? i was totally confused what to say. do i tell the truth? which is what i wanted to do? >> roger said he knew exactly what he had to do when he discovered his father in the bathtub. >> and i hollered down to her

while she was still on the phone, tell them the exact truth, we are going to get these guys. >> but pam said she still couldn't spit it out. >> i was kind of staggering through what was going on. well, there was two, maybe there was three. because i didn't know -- i was terrified for my life still. and i didn't know what i should have said. >> what about their police interrogations? when their stories didn't match? >> i thought their gloves were one color, she thought their gloves were another color. other than that our stories were basically the same. >> they both cooperated fully, said roger. kept talking for days. even as police brought up one accusation after another. >> there was an inheritance involved? >> yes. >> and you talked about that with the police. >> i may have. i'm not sure. >> well, according to them, you talked about it. and it provided one of the

classic motivations that children have for killing their parents. cops run into it all the time. right? >> they say they do. >> and that's clearly what they were tannehill thinking when they talked to you. >> yes. >> did they make that clear? >> they didn't make very much clear to us. they just said we were not being cooperative with them, even though from the very beginning we told them everything that happened. they just didn't believe it. they didn't believe that two people would kill one person and leave two more alive. >> perhaps. but what about roger and pam's apparent financial troubles? >> we were not having any financial problems. if we were having financial problems, my father would be glad to help us. we had that type of relationship. >> they were certainly not debt free, they said, but didn't amount to a whole lot. as for the pile of unsent mortgage coupons, they'd simply started paying online, they

said, like everybody else. as for that failed polygraph test, roger said he should never have been asked to take it. remember, he's on disability because years ago he had a serious accident that left him with a brain injury which caused, among other things, short-term memory loss and confusion and the sort of thing that would make a polygraph result quite useless. >> i said, how could i have felt? i did not do this. >> so was he lying? or did police have it all wrong? >> they didn't know how to proceed. they could not find fingerprints because the people had gloves on. they didn't find a gun because they took it with them. they didn't know what to do. so being confused, they went after the easiest subjects they could find. that was us. >> the days piled up. a month, two months, four months in jail, waiting for their day in court, a day for which

roger's lawyer maybe wasn't quite so eager as they were. >> we had a case that i believed in. we had a case i thought we could defend. at the end of the day, i was scared. >> and no one was prepared when one cold winter day, in the utah county sheriff's office, the phone rang. coming up -- >> i was worried he was going to be convicted regardless of what i tried to do. >> the unexpected call. the truth revealed. a surprising ending you won't believe when "mystery in payson canyon" continues. en it. covere. at farmers insurance, we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. so call 1-800 farmers to get a quote. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ delete it. you metwhy?an app. he's the one. awww. gesundheit. i see something else... a star... with three points.

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awaited trial all the way awaiting their innocence. pam says she was offered a deal if she turns states evidence. if you just tell them what they want to hear, you can go home. to me i was not going to lie just to be a free person. >> reporter: roger's public defender believed his client was innocent. >> i was looking for that piece of evidence, aha, that was the thing i could explain. i had nothing. >> this was the rub, as his trial unsettled. >> i was worried he would be convicted regardless of what i tried to do. >> why? >> because this is the kind of case where a jury would be worried that if they didn't convict, that they would be letting a murderer go free. >> reporter: but howell didn't get the opportunity to defend his client in court. the reason was that phone call to the utah county sheriffs office, a call from a woman

named rachel bingham. here's what she had to say. >> i had been blocking it out like it didn't happen. i just watched the news and these people are going to go to jail, probably a life sentence. >> what she had been blocking out, a bomb shell, her ex-husband, martin bond, told her he and a friend went to kay's house to steal his guns. >> they pulled up and told them to put the ties on. he said he wasn't going at first. but he eventually did. >> bond she said told her everything. >> then they took him to the bathroom, bent him over the tub. >> and cut his throat and then. >> he said right after that they heard a doorbell ring and it was the two. >> the two were roger and pam and we know the rest of the story. rachel bingham kept a secret for

months until finally her conscience won out. she told the police one more thing, thousand crooks got the drop on k. morton 10 sen, it turns out he had known martin as a kid which is why kay armed against intruders welcomed him in and turned his back to his killers. >> he had planned for any worst case scenario to happen except for the one that happened to him. >> in that, there are so many ironies? >> yeah. >> the biggest, programs, roger and pam's crazy story about armed intruders, was true all along. though the sergeant knutson still had trouble believing it. >> i can pick up the case and can i read through it and i can read through it and i can see discrepancy after discrepancy. i can see -- >> but can you see where maybe that ain't enough? >> mm-hmm. >> as for treating possible

evidence, the dream sequence of a girl on meth? >> this is evidence? >> it's more circumstantial evidence. it's a lead. >> you even call that circumstantial everyday? saying she had a dream. >> it's a good dream and it's pretty close. >> and in the end the prosecutor admitted he and the detectives got it wrong. >> based upon the if you physical evidence that we have located, we anticipate dismissing the charges against roger and pam mortensen tomorrow. >> roger and pam were finally free. >> those four-and-a-half months seemed like four-and-a-half thousand years. i felt like i was in there forever. >> pam got a standing ovation from an unlikely crowd. >> as i was walking out of that big dormary, there were 90 women clapping and cheering for me. they knew i was innocent.

and for me, having the situation that i, we dealt with, with roger's family turning against us, friends turning against us, to have that support of those people that miami would consider criminals, to have them cheer and yell and scream was a very emotional thing for me. >> reporter: pam wanted the prosecutor to issue a public apology. that would help make up for what all this has cost them, she said. we offered the prosecutor this form. >> can you sit here in this very public place on them le investigation in the country and apologize to pam for roger? >> you know what, apologizing on tv really doesn't mean anything. that very first meeting when we were just there in our conference room is when i apologized. >> it was a meaningful to you, what they have said to me is, what we would like more than

anything else is for that prosecutor, for tim, to stand up in public and say, i'm so sorry for what i've did to you. that's it. no but, no and, be to you do it in front of the world that would mean something to them. >> am i sorry? yeah, i am. i have no problem with saying i made a mistake. we didn't try to defraud anyone. we didn't try to lie. we didn't try to fabricate anything. but we made a mistake. >> pam and roger filed a lawsuit, arguing the prosecutors and detectives lied to the grand jury, but just a few months later, the u.s. streamment supreme court ruled grand jury witness and prosecutors were immune from civil litigation. so the judge dismissed their case. so let me understand this, the police comes to your house, are

you arrested, your names are dragged through the mud. then somebody gets the right guy and they say, well, bye, see you later? ? exactly. >> as in so many case, bond and reddick ended up beige each other. reddick took a deal got 25 to life. bond went to trial, convicted, doing life without parole. the star witness, rachel bingham and if she hadn't come forward, would two innocent people be in prison today? >> it's going to chase you for a while? >> a little. can i put it behind me. the case is closed out. what i'm happy about for me, personally, is the family has closure report. but do they? it isn't just kay's murder they must learn to live with, but also the wreckage strewn for god knows how long 32 you the family story. >> i had emotions of happiness and relief, but still there is some regret that i didn't support roger and pam from the

givening. >> i would ask that no one ever be put through this it changes your perspective on the world. it really does. >> and by the way, said roger and pam, a little piece of advice. >> if anything happens and there is anything dealing with law enforcement, you don't say a word and you get an attorney. >> as for darla, who finally found the love of her life, what was there to say? >> i just think the lives that were altered and destroyed over that act, how many families, know, were crushed and changed forever. it will never be the same and it just makes me mad because it was so senseless. and i just think, what? what we could have had and what -- how different my life is. >> that moment of sunshine snatched away, huh? >> yep. you just take what life brings you and it's not always what you'd expected.

when you're young girl, you have all your dreams of what your life is going to be. somehow it just doesn't work out that way. she was just so beautiful. >> they'd found each other and their own tropical island. >> we saw a lump in the water. that's it. that will be our spot the rest of our lives. >> she says it's like living in a postcard. >> a picture perfect life until she disappeared. >> i imagine you were calling, leaving messages? >> call, texting. we started wondering. >> why would she just leave? >> i called her best friend and said did she meet somebody?