you are holding on to a hope. church services and the annual supporters, they built this campaign up. i know how hard it is to run reenactment of thential candidae these things and they should be >> that's all for this edition commended for what they did, of "dateline." this he surpassed everybody's expectations to kudos to them. i'm natalie more ralgs. forum just wrapped up. i also think now we are in in thank you for watching. watchin. tremaine, of course, we know moment where we have to assess that biden's very sizable who is the candidate that we victory in south carolina was want to have at the top of the ticket and i believe that the ♪ contrast is becoming clearer. powered by african-american is it bernie or is it biden? ♪ voters, a critical constituency one of the things that i would want to make clear to everybody, if not the critical constituency there's certain parts of pete's record having been an outsider, in this democratic party. we saw in alabama today a rather advocating for a lot of the same mission of bernie sanders welcome to "kasie dc," i'm whether it's student debt or awkward scene play out for michael bloomberg in church whether it's medicare for all in kasie hunt, we are live from new today as joe biden seemed to be his own way, but i would say to embraced as one of their own. york tonight with breaking news. after a strong showing early on everybody now the choice is who in iowa, pete buttigieg dropping >> that's right, kasie. is the person who is going to out of the 2020 race. deal with difficult crises and we think about the juxtaposition this after joe biden runs away has the judgment required to of what we saw in south carolina with south carolina, wracking up make the right choice. and james clyburn introducing i think, you know, we have all more votes nationwide than any these differences of opinion joe biden as someone who knows with joe biden because of his other candidate, but is bernie this community and he is a good record. man. you go back to bankruptcy bill, you come to brown chapel in you go back to iraq war and sanders ascending campaign too selma that played a pivotal role much to stop? trade, there's differences i talked one-on-one with michael bernie has been on the right in the efforts for civil rights bloomberg on whether his and voting rights and have side and biden has been on the millions of dollars are going to michael bloomberg who many see shape the way we think about as not a good man, the opposite wrong side but the point is to presidential campaigns or if

of that, because of his policy say the president never knows they are just helping hand the what he or she will have to deal race to sanders. and the country is watching of stop and frisk which with when they're president of carefully as markets plunge and disenfranchised and really the united states and who do you the president tries to dismiss violated the constitutional want to make the judgments and rights of so many people in new determinations? york city. i would argue bernie has showed media coverage of the coronavirus as a hoax. that juxtaposition of, you know, this integrity of choice making we are going to begin with the eyes of the country turning over a long period of time that should appeal to a lot of people that breaking news, out of the race for president. to south carolina as they made a two campaign aides tonight who are now up for grabs, if you decision for joe biden and, will. telling nbc news that pete again, that idea of the good >> all right. i want to ask you about mike buttigieg is suspending his campaign. the former south bend mayor was bloomberg. he of course new to the debate guys and this long history of supposed to head to dallas, good men and women who fought stage, had a difficult texas, a super tuesday state battles here in selma, for performance in his first debate. i interviewed him this week and tonight, but instead he voting rights of black folks. literally where we are right i asked him about his impact on announced he will be heading back to his hometown to make an now, a couple miles from the the race, especially as it announcement. here is what he said on board edmond pettis bridge where blood pertains to your boss. was shed. take a look and then we will his plane just a few minutes i want to toss to sound of joe talk about it. >> you're heading into super biden this morning to hear what ago. he said, again, capturing this tuesday, the moderate lane of >> a little bit of news for you this vote is potentially about our flight. moment and the spirit of what we are making a change in our happened so many years ago. let's take a listen. splintering. did you spend 400 plus million travel plans and traveling to >> folks, look, this president south bend, rather than to dollars just to hand bernie sanders the nomination? texas. has ripped the band-aid off. >> i don't know why you think -- i'm going to be making an look, bernie sanders has been announcement there about the running for years and there's future of the campaign and four elections that i didn't looking forward to sharing with too many people get inspired by participate in. our supporters and with the people that are uplifting, country where we're going from i had no say in bernie sanders. abraham lincoln, franklin he's built a group of people here. so that is why you will find roosevelt, john kennedys, martin that follow him and -- that we are headed in a different direction than we >> but don't you see yourself originally planned on. luther kings, by the barack splintering the other support?

>> are you getting out of the >> no. campaign? >> i'm looking forward to making obamas, but they also get inspired by really bad people. well, i believe that if bernie an announcement tonight to the sanders gets the nomination he country. >> let's get right to our panel really. will lose to donald trump, he here in new york, senior writer we are at a inflection point. will make sure that the senate for the "politico" and msnbc donald trump has showed us a stays in republican hands, he political analyst jake sherman, side of humanity that has no will flip the house back to the former obama campaign manager and msnbc political analyst sense of compassion. republicans and even down ballot david plouffe, the author of a doesn't understand who we are. he's going to hurt the new book coming out tuesday called "a citizens guide to doesn't understand anything democrats. >> has mike bloomberg's presence beating donald trump." about why we go to church in this race made bernie we also have campaign director for the center for american because we believe. sanders' path to the nomination we believe that we have an easier? >> i'm not sure about that, but progress action fund juan at obligation to our brothers and that tolliver and over at the sisters and, folks, that's who i know that mayor bloomberg's big board steve kornacki. record has destroyed his we are at our core. campaign. when you have a billionaire who always thrilled who have you >> the book ends of inspiration is advocating against raising here. the minimum wage, advocating for we also have nbc news that he said inspired by good cuts to social security, correspondent garrett haake. terrorizing communities of color men and bad men. in his own city, it is his own we are going to start with you yesterday you saw james clyburn because you are at a biden event and today you saw john lewis record that has really caused is my understanding, but of when he was a young man 55 years him destruction. >> don't you benefit from the course covering this late ago he was beaten by a white mob moderate lane splintering in so breaking news about pete many directions? >> i would argue to you that and police officers on the buttigieg's campaign. it seems -- it's hard not to edmond pettis bridge. even the contrast with joe biden to see him arrive there today as is one that we welcome. think that this is tied in no from our perspective and bernie part of thousands of people who small part to the margin of sanders you have somebody who descended upon that bridge to is, you know, cautioned against biden's victory in south not just celebrate the hard carolina and the shrinking path the power of billionaires in our fought victory in civil rights for pete buttigieg. but to commemorate all that was what do we know? economy and it is mike bloomberg

lost. to see john lewis there was a a billionaire himself who is trying to buy an election but >> reporter: absolutely. perfect book end. i mean, look, pete buttigieg did it spoke to the spirit of which then joe biden who has got 60 everything that his strategy called for. joe biden spoke of, being billionaires contributing to his he won iowa, he competed as hard inspired by good men. campaign. so i think in many ways all of as he could everywhere he went, those messages resonate with these candidates help posit black folks, given how far black but his margins got worse and worse everywhere he went, second folks have come in this country bernie sanders as unique and in new hampshire, third in and to see that play out in this different than all the other. nevada, a distant fourth in >> faiz shakir, i'm sure annual celebration, they call it supporters and opponents of south carolina. bernie sanders would agree with they didn't think that there was your description that he certainly stands out from the a single state on super tuesday rest of the field. thank you very much for your he could win. jubilant -- a few years ago when time, sir. it's very difficult to become barack obama was here he talked >> thank you. the nominee of your party >> much more of my interview without winning more states and about you might think about how with michael bloomberg coming up i think that's the bottom line. far we have to go, but think of next hour. i think the other reality is before we go to break just pete buttigieg could probably how far we've come. see the writing on the wall. in tonight the governor of new york confirming the first you can hear the energy in this >> certainly a time our thoughts positive case of coronavirus. room behind me. the patient is a woman in her i have covered joe biden events in every early state. with john lewis who has been late 30s who contracted the virus while traveling abroad in they did not sound this way battling pancreatic cancer and iran and is currently isolated with everyone on this historic in her home. until today. this is a campaign that appears the patient has respiratory to be gathering momentum, day. thank you very much for your symptoms but is not in serious reporting tonight. we also have a little bit of condition and has been in a appears to be consolidating the breaking news for you here from controlled situation since she arrived in new york. nonbernie vote and i think pete the team at nbc. we're going to have more on that buttigieg is a smart enough story coming up in our next our craig melvin and mike memoli political tactician in his own hour. we are awaiting live remarks right to read the writing on the reporting that representatives from mayor pete buttigieg as he wall in that sense, having never from the buttigieg and biden suspends his campaign. much more "kasie dc" coming up

fully connected with the campaigns have been talking to in just a minute. minority voters, the black and each other about potentially ♪ brown voters, that power so much consolidating their support ahead of super tuesday. of this party, kasie. >> garrett, what do we know apparently the candidates have about what kind of message we're tried to talk to each other, going to hear from pete they have yet to connect and some of our sources are down buttigieg tonight? i know there is a lot of playing the idea that buttigieg might endorse biden tonight, speculation about will he partly to allow buttigieg to perhaps endorse joe biden, of have his own night, but still of course, that -- the politics of course we are waiting for that seems to line up certainly buttigieg's remarks later on this evening in south bend to more than bernie sanders, see what he has to say about the buttigieg has been out on the end of his campaign and a trail making the argument against bernie sanders, but at the same time, i mean, it's tough for anybody who makes a possible collaboration or big decision like this who has endorsement with joe biden. spent, you know, a year plus of we will have much more discussion about all of this their life doing something like breaking news coming up in just a minute and bernie sanders' this to throw in the towel campaign manager is going to join me live. totally, but i do think it would in the 8:00 hour i'm going to be something that would make a talk to congresswoman katie real impact if he were to porter who is going to try to endorse joe biden tonight, explain elizabeth warren's path garrett. >> reporter: it could make a forward. huge impact. first i'm going to talk to there's been some reporting in other news outlets that the two former fema administrator brock long about whether the trump have not yet connected tonight, administration is ready for the i have not confirmed that independently myself. moment at hand with coronavirus. i think there's something "kasie dc" back after this. plastic. important to remember here, but

everyone who runs for president is an egomaniac, you have to be to get up in the morning to think in a country of 300 million people you are uniquely to be its leader and the leader of the free world. that applies to all the candidates whether you like them or not. to make the decision to get out is a big decision in its own right, much less to endorse someone else. i agree, with the conventional wisdom that this is probably the most good news for joe biden, in my travels in these early states joe biden is not the name that comes up most often when you talk to people that support mayor pete about who their second choice is, some like amy klobuchar, some like elizabeth warren and some like bernie sanders. a consolidating field of non-bernie candidates is probably overall good news for joe biden i don't think we should assume that all mayor pete's supporters even if he did endorse will immediately wake up tomorrow morning and decide they're going to pull the lever

for joe biden instead. >> i guess pete buttigieg is joining ego maniacs anonymous. gary, thank you. steve kornacki, could you help us explain and understand exactly what garrett is talking about. how is this going to reshape the race? where conceivably do buttigieg supporters go right now? >> let's take a look at this in terms of tuesday. you have the delegate picture basically, a couple left to be allocated from south carolina, but heading into tuesday this is the delegate picture. let's take a look at tuesday and what is up for grabs then. 1,344 delegates, we are getting into the big time here with delegates and the key number to remember on tuesday night state-wide and by congressional district everywhere you are looking here is 15. candidates need to be hitting 15% statewide, 15% in each individual congressional district. you have 53 districts there in california to be collecting delegates. the challenge for joe biden on

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he desperately needs to get to 15% statewide. cases of the coronavirus throughout the united states and they have pete buttigieg running at 7. tomorrow president trump is expected to meet with is there some buttigieg support pharmaceutical companies at the enough that could get biden up she was really mean to mini white house to discuss potential to 15? vaccination options. mike, the way she treated him. it's a critical difference for he didn't know what hit him. nbc's gadi schwartz joins me now joe biden. he's going, oh, get me off of remember california a straight from kirkland, washington, where we have a lot of mail in voting, just yesterday the first u.s. a lot of votes already cast, a death from the virus was this stage. get me off. reported. get me off of this stage. lot will be cast on tuesday but gadi, what's the latest? a lot already cast. >> reporter: yeah, kasie, right this was massachusetts last now we are at this nursing home. night, massachusetts doesn't i want to put this into context have a lot of early votes so a because it always looks alarming lot of folks, most folks are when you see ambulances and going to vote on tuesday. >> that does it for us tonight it's a sanders/warren fight, people wearing masks, but this here on "kasie dc." biden is back at 11% but we don't know what's happening join us next week when we're at this nursing home right now, back live from washington, but buttigieg is sitting at 12% in this is a working nursing home for now goodnight from new york. these days you need faster internet that does all you massachusetts. there are a lot of delegates in and there are all kinds of massachusetts. different possibilities, so at if this were the result right this point the first responders now, bernie sanders is picking here haven't told us if this is up dozens of delegates in any way related to the massachusetts and biden is coronavirus or covid-19. picking up none. we do know that this is a place if biden can get to 15% in that is being zeroed in on by massachusetts suddenly he's not the cdc and they are saying that falling that far behind bernie if there is an outbreak here sanders in the delegates. they are hoping to move quickly play that out in massachusetts, to contain it. play that out in minnesota, play tonight washington state on edge it out in colorado, all these

states where biden is a question after seeing the first u.s. death from the coronavirus, now mark for delegates right now but a nursing home the center of sanders isn't, that is the concern over a potential difference between joe biden coronavirus outbreak. being close enough coming out of the cdc investigating after a super tuesday to make a run at staff member and resident tested sanders in the later march positive with more than 50 others quarantined showing states or falling farther behind and having that math be more symptoms. health officials waiting for their test results as pat patton difficult when we get to march 10th, march 17th. worries about his wife. >> i'm not concerned about >> steve kornacki, you are in your element, my friend. myself, it's her that i'm david plouffe, let's take a concerned about because she is look at this map. you have been in this position where you have looked at a map kind of sickly. >> reporter: after not being like this in the past and i know able to reach her for three days you and i have had this at the facility he finally got conversation several times on the air in the last couple of word from the nursing home she weeks about, you know, where is not showing any symptoms. things stand overall for joe meanwhile, firefighters and biden and also for bernie police who responded to the nursing home are in quarantine. sanders and whether he can, in 16 college students also being expect and way more. that's xfinity xfi. fact, build an insurmountable monitored after visiting the delegate lead on super tuesday. facility last week, their campus get powerful wifi coverage that what's your thinking about it shutting down to disinfect. leaves no room behind with xfi pods. now, especially considering the buttigieg announcement tonight? neighbors that live next door >> well, i think i agree with say they are preparing for the and now xfi advanced security steve that bernie sanders has a worst. is free with the xfi gateway, >> who knows what actually is giving you an added layer of network protection, floor and it's a good floor, there, how far it will go and if so every device that's connected is protected. means he will be viable there's some type of containment everywhere, but he's got to or cure that they have for it. that's a $72 a year value. no one else offers this.

>> reporter: randy gray is three maximize tuesday because i don't faster speed, coverage, and free advanced security think he's got the ceiling that days away from giving birth. >> bringing a newborn into the joe biden does if and when this at an unbeatable value with xfinity xfi. world i don't really want to gets down to a two-person race and the rest of the calendar not expose them to anything. can your internet do that? >> reporter: fear rippling just the rest of march, but you across this community after two have pennsylvania in april, you new infections confirmed in the have new jersey, you have states county. where i think biden is go to do researchers familiar with the strain of covid-19 say the virus well if it gets down to a could have been spreading for two-person race. nearly six weeks in washington bernie sanders has to maximize state with as men many as 700 his delegate yield on thursday people currently infected, more and joe biden's job -- >> although it's longer than it confirmed cases set to rise. used to be in politics in a way. overnight rhode island >> but he's completely relying announcing their first case, a school closing in response. on momentum. he's not going to get all of the >> they're flying off the shelf. buttigieg voters and a bunch of >> reporter: in cities across people already voted for him early. the country those worried about as close as he is to 15% in a possible pandemic are stocking california, in massachusetts, and in minnesota, it doesn't take much. up. he has to vote that voters are again, the executive director here said that so far they have like, do you know what, i think it really is coming down to seven different cases of what pieden and sanders and for those just days ago, the press and who are not with bernie right could be possible respiratory now -- but bernie sanders i illness but none of those have think there is a magic number, pundits declared this candidacy steve put some interesting dead. numbers out on twitter today. thus far tested positive for now, thanks to all of you, the heart of the democratic party, if biden can keep this within covid-19. they are following all the we just won and we've won big 100, even 150 coming out of recommendations from the cdc in

tuesday i think he has to like terms of protocol. his chances. they also tell us if the staff because of you. if bernie gets a lead of 300, starts the day they are >> the biden campaign roars back to life after a blow out win in inspected, they are basically 325, it's going to be hard to screened to see if they have any get close to him. that's what's scary about this type of symptoms and if they do south carolina, while pete they are sent home immediately, buttigieg and tom steyer end if you are biden. their campaigns ahead of super but back out here to what we're you've got to survive super seeing, we saw one ambulance tuesday. tuesday and sanders is really we're going to tell you where going to try to, you know, press loaded up with a patient, we things stand this morning. don't know that patient's the coronavirus hits the the accelerator here and he is u.s. coast to coast, the condition, again, we don't know dramatic jump in cases just over in great position. >> what kind of pressure does if this is covid-19 related or the weekend including two deaths this put on other democrats to coronavirus related and now we're seeing another ambulance throw in the towel already? pulling up to the back to load and fears that the virus went this is clearly, you know -- i up what we believe is another patient. so we're going to continue to think the question for every democrat is who is the monitor this situation an keep you updated as soon as we can. alternative to bernie sanders. it's going to be bernie sanders against somebody else and as kasie. >> gadi schwartz, thank you and long as these other candidates thank you for being careful to are in the race that is a clarify exactly what we're problem for whoever the somebody seeing here. >> reporter: yeah, it could be else is going to be. anything at this point. >> for sure. what's the pressure going to be thank you, gadi. like now? joining me now from charlotte is former fema >> immense pressure, especially i've seen all eyes going to amy administrator under the trump klobuchar now and i assume that administration brock long. same pressure applied to thanks for being on the program. >> evening. buttigieg and his decision today. we had steyer last night saying how are you? >> let's start with simply he is throwing in the towel, buttigieg today and i assume amy klobuchar will follow shortly whether or not you believe -- you've been on the inside with because these are all people who are underperforming with the trump administration -- can

communities of color, who are americans trust this the ultimate voting block for administration to fight a democrats that are reliant on potential coronavirus pandemic? any success come november and i think south carolina was the >> americans can definitely trust not only the death nell for buttigieg in the administration but the public sense he hasn't been able to move the ball there. health industry as a whole. also looking back to nevada he i think what we have to realize is this is a partnership. our success in overcoming the didn't have backing with latten coronavirus is largely how well we are able to quickly establish x candidates as well. >> this came after he met with a true culture of preparedness jimmy carter today, jake within our citizens and letting them know that the local and sherman. state health officials are the how much pressure do you think there's going to be and how many ones that will really be taking members of the senate are picking up the phone and calling most of the action at a amy klobuchar, calling elizabeth localized level to be able to warren saying, hey, we're implement future strategies of panicked about our control of the house of representatives, maybe quarantine or maybe you need to help us with this broader project here and get separation or canceling big out. >> they're not telling us that events. publicly because you and i both that the federal government plays more of a support role. are asking those questions all whether it's a hurricane or the time. it's difficult to know. i will say this, biden sees -- whether you are talking about a pandemic event disasters are and we put this in the playbook this morning -- he is trying to typically federally supported, state managed and local create a ripple effect with executed. members of congress coming out >> we have seen some specific in support with him. he's trying to get members of instances already where this congress that are from primary president has reportedly

states to come out and endorse intervened personally in the him because he wants to create case of the americans that were this sense of momentum. evacuated from the cruise ship, i was in boston yesterday with bernie sanders where on a 25 day there was a decision made to put people who were infected with he drew 13,000 people to boston the virus on a plane with healthy people and that that commons. it's just striking to see that decision did not, in fact, come and to reconcile that with the from local health authorities, idea that he is a drag on the party, which is something we do et cetera. how should people view that when hear. we do hear it all the time. they are thinking about decisions about how to protect nancy pelosi isn't saying t but we do hear from rank and file themselves? >> well, i think the federal members saying they don't want government has to take prote to run with bernie on the top of the ticket. protective actions to protect our borders have people coming >> steve kornacki, how much of a into the country, but when it problem is bernie sanders for the house majority? gets down to the spread of >> i don't know. localized spread or outbreak because donald trump was supposed to be the biggest within, you know, small communities, then the local problem that the republican majority in 2016 ever had. officials will take over and the federal government will play a if sanders were to be the support role. democratic nominee i wouldn't go into it with a confident sense you know, right now i think citizens need to understand who either way that this is something that's going to sink to listen to. >> should the president stay out democrats, that's going to result in a nixon '72 landslide of decisions like that then? >> well, i think everything or if it's the secret to suck needs to be coordinated definitely. we have to double down on seas that other democratic communication from the president nominees haven't had before. down to the local level and back i think the trump experience raised a lot of questions that up. i think what we have to be real

careful of is letting politics we are sorting out right now and i suspect the sanders nomination get in the way of dluding the would put us in a similar place. message to building this culture >> my big question is with women of preparedness in the citizenry. voters, the way he polls with helping people to understand not to panic but they do need to especially suburban women is take deliberate actions to get distinctly different than some of the other nominees. ready to possibly shelter in bernie sanders could win the white house and they could still place or except disruptions in lose the house because of their routines. particularly the other thing that needs to be pushed forward like haggerty consulting we help subursuburshen to develop continuity plans for businesses. women. joe biden has been basically so, you know, are small businesses and major businesses broke as compared to the other candidates. it has been a very, very understanding the impacts to the supply chain and how it will difficult time and he is running impact their ability to serve largely on momentum. here is what he had to say err their constituents? earlier today about money and i think what this has already been to our nation is a wake-up his campaign. call and particularly to our watch. >> i think that people know who ability to overcome public i am, although i've been health emergencies is that our outspent 41 to 1 i think it was supply chains are weak. they're greatly dependent upon or 40 to 1 in south carolina and other country to produce other places. i think we have now begun to supplies we need to take care of the event. raise money, nothing that they i think we have to do a lot of have raised, we have raised $18 work to mitigate that in the million this month, $5 million future. >> one question that i certainly

overnight. i think things are picking up, have had in watching this all but we will see. unfold is about testing. >> talking about money, mayor the question of whether or not bloomberg has bought tv time on the u.s. has prepared and is two networks tonight to deliver testing adequately. a prime time address, vice president pence was asked about this earlier today. three-minute prime time address to the nation. let's watch what he had to say and then we will talk about it. how do you compete with that? >> south korea has testing from >> on your show. your car, you have drive through by doing as much of the free testing, china says you can test at home. we haven't done the testing. press and earn media as i can. >> we have done a fair amount of testing. i'm being serious. >> 500 tests? >> look, we have actually >> david plouffe, this is the screened 47,000 people coming other thing we haven't touched through designated airports in on in the potential problem for the country and done testing at biden, plume berg sitting out there this three-minute ad will air in nbc we think in an hour airports. >> so screening is distinct from or so and another network as testing. well. is the money there for biden screening people for symptoms much different from testing for with buttigieg getting out and coronavirus. what was the failure here in with the momentum that he has or terms of, you know, this person not? >> bloomberg has spent $650 in california in particular was sick for days before the test was actually given. million and -- >> which is insane. >> well, i mean, when you're >> -- it's got him up to 14% or trying to screen people coming in from other countries and off 15%. in politics it's what do you

airplanes it's not going to tell need to spend. joe biden has universal name you whether or not they have recognition, he's got momentum. covid-19 or not. checking for fevers and so he needs enough to capitalize different things. >> for sure. on this, but he doesn't need to raise what sanders raises or but we haven't been testing anywhere near bloomberg. people here with an actual test the problem is a lot of the big quickly enough it does not seem donors will come his way, but he needs to build that online like. >> well, i think it -- well, but machine. he is never going to have what it also boils down to the materials and being able to do sanders had or probably not what the test. i'm not going to pretend to be a obama had, so he's got to public health expert, that is a leverage that quickly. he has to get staff on the question for the public health experts, but i can tell you as ground, he has to be on the air more testing is done or the need in states like georgia, in for testing to be done as here states like illinois and again it goes to a partnership arizona, both on our phones and on tvs big time. as an emergency manager, for example, the emergency what's interesting is he was the management will play a role at national front runner, it looked the local and state level not like we were going to have to only with the logistics of write his obituary and now he's getting tested to the appropriate places where they back, but i can't tell you how can be administered, but also in hard this is to capitalize on the future as a vaccine is that momentum this deep in the race. developed and mass produced, you bernie sanders just seized the field. they know what's happening in know, there are elaborate plans every cd, how they're spending, at the local and state level in how they're placing staff. conjunction with the federal >> and they've been doing it for government to be able to get those vaccines out through literally years at this point. regional distribution sites and >> and there's an advantage to different things. that. the one thing to keep in mind is so this week marks 55 years that as a country we don't have since the march from selma to a whole lot of experience with

montgomery, alabama, which became known adds bloodyds for public health disasters. i think, again, it's too early to be pointing blame or whatever. this is, you know -- these are very difficult events and public health events scare me more than hurricanes. hurricanes and earthquakes and different things. people often ask me that question. it's go going to be trial and error in a lot of cases about you what we have to do is make sure that citizens are prepared to, one, follow good hygiene practices, not only at home but in the workplaces, at schools, preparing their businesses, preparing to be able to hole up in their house if localized quarantine is eventually implemented. that's the message that needs to get out. >> brock long, thank you very much for your time tonight. let's hope that there is more trial, less error as this all unfolds. thank you, sir. still to come, my conversation with new york city mayor michael bloomberg who says he is in it until the bitter end. when we come back, back to that

breaking news, mayor buttigieg suspending his campaign.

welcome back to "kasie dc." the big breaking news tonight, mayor pete buttigieg suspending his campaign according to two source. nbc news now reports that representatives of both the buttigieg and biden campaigns have been in discussions about consolidating support around the former vice president. a source with knowledge of the discussions tells nbc news the force of bernie sanders' campaign has been on full display this weekend. take a look at this massive crowd on hand tonight in san jose, california. yesterday in massachusetts where sanders leads elizabeth warren in polling, that's her home state, 13,000 people showed up on boston common. a similar story in springfield, virginia, and then later on in virginia beach. jake sherman, david plouffe and steve kornacki are all back with me. jake, you were on boston common with sanders yesterday. glad to see you didn't freeze. >> i didn't.

i've thawed. >> what have you seen in the energy of bernie sanders' campaign when you were on the grow under. >> it looked a lot like a barack obama event and less like anything we've seen this cycle. >> minus the diversity. >> minus the diversity but there was a lot of energy, that's what i saw from the crowd, a lot of excitement. it seems like a movement, right? you can't compare anything to what we saw with obama or trump, but it is reminiscent of that kind of thing. i was at a trump rally the night before in charleston, also the same type of thing, really boisterous supporters. it's unlike anything else in the field at the moment. >> so let's talk about the super tuesday map, steve kornacki and david plouffe. steve, you will be at the big board on tuesday night trying to explain to us what the heck is going on. >> yeah. >> and it sounds like from the conversation we were having in the break that we may see something totally different the night of super tuesday than the conversation we may be having the morning after. >> if you look at this map and

see 415 delegates in california that's like a third of all the delegates that are up for grabs. because it's on the west coast it's going to be very late at night to get any results, but on top of that california is a mail in voting state, it takes them days, in some cases it can take weeks to get all of the results reported out. talking about delegates assigned by congressional district where you have to be very sure on the margins. it may be a while, up to a week, before we get the full delegate picture out of california. when you look at the rest of that map a couple things to look at during the night, is biden running up the score in the south? is he getting out of alabama something that looks like what he got out of south carolina last night? is he winning virginia, winning north carolina, big win in tennessee. biden could get some delegates out of the south. the other big variable for biden is this, massachusetts, minnesota, colorado, necessary danger of missing that 15% threshold there. if he misses the threshold in

those states he's probably falling like an extra 100 delegates behind sanders. if biden hits the threshold in those states it takes away like 70 of that gap. >> a huge difference. >> a huge difference. >> that's the difference between being 14% and 15 or 16%. >> if he hits those threshold, gets the big numbers out at the south we could be sitting at 11:00 at night and saying biden has more delegates than sanders before you get to california. >> david plouffe, sounds like you were on the other side of this back in 2008. >> yeah, well, listen, the difference between 14 and 16% could be the difference between the democratic nominee or not. this couldn't be bigger >> wow. >> and it's happening in 48 hours. yeah, back in '08 we were judged in the early part of the night and even i think in the next morning after super tuesday back then to have lost because hillary won states like california and new jersey and massachusetts, but when the full delegate picture became clear partially because we didn't get blown out anywhere and we did get blow outs in states like

georgia. bernie sanders probably doesn't have to worry about viability anywhere, maybe a few places, but for him it's how do i wrack up as many delegates as possible in california and texas, although texas will be closer. >> yeah. >> biden has to survive the places where he's close to viability and then he has to maximize states as steve said like tennessee and alabama. again, largely depending on momentum and do some of the people who are thinking about voting for a mayor pete or even a bloomberg or amy say biden is more viable now. that's not this their control, they are at the whims of the momentum gods and that's never a place you want to be. >> it really underscores the impact that bloomberg could have on this race. we will have this later on in the show. i asked him did he just spend $400 million to elect bernie sanders. the reality is if he takes two percentage points from joe biden it could make all the difference. thank you guys, i'm sure we will be seeing a lot more of all of us in the next 72 hours. i will be joined live when we return by bernie sanders' campaign manager.

i will ask him if he think the senator will be able to translate some of the huge crowds we're seeing into turnout on super tuesday.

welcome back to "kasie dc." joining me now the campaign manager for bernie sanders presidential campaign faiz shakir. always great to have you on the program. >> thanks for having me. >> let's start where we left off with this conversation i was having with steve corn knee and david plouffe about your delegate path on super tuesday.

how confident are you that bernie sanders could come out of super tuesday with an insurmountable delegate lead? >> well, that's the plan and that's the hope and that's what we're building towards. i saw you talking about the large rallies we have had in places like california, texas, massachusetts, north carolina, virginia, all in the past 72 hours. one thing to know about those large rallies because i saw you talking about it is that we are following up with each one of those individuals, in many cases many could have voted early. we hope to have banked a lot of votes already by now. every time you see a large rally of bernie sanders know that we know who they are, we're contacting them their friends and families to urge them to get out. we are now in the 48 hours of the get out the vote effort. feeling pretty good about super tuesday. >> we're reporting at nbc news that pete buttigieg's campaign is speaking with the former vice president's campaign about potentially coordinating or teaming up their support. this of course potentially some of the consolidation that many folks have been talking about as the field seems to come down to

bernie sanders versus somebody else. what do you say to joe biden's campaign, first of all, but also to the voters who have either already supported pete buttigieg or were thinking about supporting him in these super tuesday states about how to make their decision? sounds like he's his staff, his