charge the former vice president's once flagging candidacy ahead of super tuesday. nbc news has confirmed an endorsement is expected from senator amy klobuchar. she will appear with him at his rally tonight in dallas. there are also reports mayor pete buttigieg, who dropped out yesterday, will do the same. whether they were inspired by biden's landslide victory in the most diverse and the most populous state, the vote so far, or by the desire to mount a moderate democratic candidate in the general election? the last 48 hours have catapulted joe biden to the top of the bernie alternative lane, transforming the once crowded contest into a two-man race. biden sounded a comeback note, seemingly foreshadowing the coalescing around his candidacy. >> those of you that have been knocked down, counted out, left

behind, this is your campaign. just days ago the press and the pundits declared this candidacy dead. now, thanks to all of you, the horde of the democratic party, we just won and we've won big because of you. >> mayor pete's withdrawal lasts night also left the distinct impression he'd throw his weight before the former vice president. >> with every passing day i'm more and more convinced the only way we'll defeat trump and trumpism is with a new politics that gathers people together. we need leadership to heal a divided nation, not drive us further apart. we need a broad-based agenda to deliver for the american people, not one that gets lost in ideology. we need an approach strong enough to hold the house, win the senate and send mitch mcconnell into retirement.

>> and for his part, bernie sanders seemed to welcome the consolidation as further evidence the democratic establishment is working against him. >> there is a massive effort trying to stop bernie sanders. that's not a secret to anybody in this room. the corporate establishment is coming together, the plitical establishment is coming together and they will do everything. they're really getting nervous that working people are standing up. >> the new democratic race for the party's nomination is where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends. nbc news correspondent and from south bend, indiana where mayor pete buttigieg suspended his campaign last night, von hillyard and national political corpondant -- i think for the first time in a long time away from your board, and editorial board member, donna edwards and

david jolly a former republican congressman turned independent. you have been on this biden beat for even before biden was in the race. you sat down with him today. is that right? give me the view from joe biden. >> well, nicolle, it's just been a whiplash period for all of us following the biden campaign. a week ago we were about to release a poll with a single digit lead and if that held, there were a lot of folks in the biden camp who didn't think they'd be around for super tuesday. and now all the sudden the party is beginning to coalesce around him in a big way so quickly that it's hard to keep our heads on straight. even just talking to the vice president, there's a focus and a calm around him i haven't seen

in him in a while. we talked about mayor pete dropping out. he said he encouraged him to stay involved in the race. coy about whether he asked for his endorsement. and asked if he's involved in -- whether he was talking to amy klobuchar or others. the reward would leak out that amy klobuchar was going to endorse and join him tonight. i have to tell you i wasn't planning to go to dallas. we were going to skip ahead to california to be in position for super tuesday where he is going to be tomorrow. but the biden team, across the board, has been strongly encouragi encouraging me to join there. it's almost like there's a "avengers" sequel in dallas. and by the way, including president obama himself to try to hurry this race to a finish. there's a lot of conversations

happening that suggest they don't want to wait for super tuesday. they want to begin this process as soon as you can. >> you dangled something really riveting in front of me. tell me more about conversations with former president obama >> we know the former vice president talked to him over the weekend. and craig melvin asked biden last week about why president obama wasn't sending more smoke signals up in terms of his support for joe biden. he said i know you don't believe it but i really asked the president not to endorse me. he wanted to be able to show that he earned this on his own merits. but when you saw last week president obama's lawyers react to the tv ad being run in south carolina that used his own audio, that's a step they hadn't been taking. that was a smoke signal. we know he's been working the

phone lines and potentially speaking to other candidates as woel. there's a way president obama could have an imp pact without explicitly saying the words that he wants to happen. and i think that's -- a lot of democrats are taking those signals. susan rice is a person who, when she comes out and announces she's endorsing. that's something i don't think happens unless there's a spirit around the president suggesting that's an outcome he's happy to see. >> and we put up her tweet. having worked for a president who i think only endorsed in the messy republican primary because his brother was running, george w. bush endorsed jeb bush. i know how relulktant they are because they think they can play a role in bringing the two halves together. but there are a whole bunch of subpresidential endorsement things. it's my understanding michelle and joe biden had a pretty close

rapport. >> reporter: they absolutely have a very close relationship. i haven't heard of any outreach between them. and as obama and biden have been as well. it's worth paying attention to i think these kind of signals coming out. harry reed is another endorsement today. one more thing. i should mentioned. one other thing in terms of the tea leaf reading we're doing a lot of right now. when i asked the vice president whether he thinks obama would have to step up sooner than the convention to help unite the party. he says he knows the president wants to do that and he believes he'll be there when he needs to. and he said he needs to be the one to also be the figure who

can ultimately unite the party and he intends to do that, he said. >> short of a barack obama endorsement a pete buttigieg indorszmei endorsement is pretty darn good. he gave one of the most eloquent and elegant speeches for someone coming short of a dream of winning his party's nomination. how did he arrive at the sequencing of withdrawing from the race and making the endorsement as we expect, as other news organizations have reported, he he's expected to d tonight? >> there's a private plane destened for dallas this evening. i talked to multiple campaign officials who said the path was very narrow. and this is an individual who got in the race hoping he could be a different candidate, play a different sort of politics. if you're looking for an exact

opposite of donald trump, you find pete buttigieg. and outside of drawing contrast with bernie sanders and a squabble with amy klobuchar on the debate stage in nevada, you haven't heard pete buttigieg go after the former vice president pretty much entirety of this 2020 year. the morning of the nevada primary. i had a conversation with pete buttigieg and he said there's a reality that the party could wake up the morning of march 4th, the day after super tuesday with bernie sanders holding an insurmountable delegate lead. he needed to perform well among communities of color in nevada and south carolina. he did not. in terms of a structure to go beyond, they're no longer second in national delegate count and when you're looking at congressional districts t wasn't there for them. so, when you're having that conversation, pete buttigieg

likes to say democrat whose have won over the last 50 years were all younger candidates who had a different style of politics. so, now it's on pete buttigieg to make the case on behalf of 78-year-old joe biden. >> i think a more demographically significant ambassador could not have arisen at the right moment for the bie biden candidacy. i want to play something his husband said in introducing mayor pete last night. >> this campaign was built on an idea of hope. an idea of inclusion, an idea of addition, rather than subtraction. about bringing people together. about looking your neighbor in the eye and saying maybe we don't agree on everything but let's agree on this. it is time for every single person in this country to look to the white house and know that institution stands for them, that they belong in this

country. [ applause ] >> i just can't imagine a more welcome couple on the campaign trail if they're willing to go out and put everything they've built, the win in iowa, which they were robbed of, the normal momentum any campaign that wins iowa normally gets. but what is the plan for mayor pete in terms of how to help joe biden? is he all in? >> the plan would be to be all in. this is an individual who does not have a job after this. he is now the former mayor. you're playing chastin's sound, i think is relevant. look at -- five years ago this month is when pete buttigieg came out to the world he was gay. three months later is when mike pence passed and signed the religious freedom restoration

act 150 miles down the road in indianapolis. and a summer later, pete buttigieg watched mike pence run for the vice presidency of the united states and become vice president. it was at that point he insrtded himself in the national conversation, put himself forward. if there is somebody who hlived and can relate to the midwest, that would be pete buttigieg. i think he's quite the surrogate, not just in indiana and minnesota. he was destined to be in seattle on friday. these are communities he's reached and tried to open up to. i think as the first gay man running for president of the united states. there was a staffer who told me -- he said i just wish i had had a pete buttigieg when i was 12 years old. it's those stories 78 year old rdsant able to relate to in the

same way a 38-year-old young gay man on the national political stage is. >> more important words have not been utter ed on my show in a long time. thank you both for starting us off. i know you're on the trail chasing after your candidate. i want to get the numbers and how the endorsements might help. but on sort of the momentous events since we were last in the studio saturday night, biden with an even bigger win than it looked like for all of us. the buttigieg getting out the next night, the klobuchar getting out and announcing her endorsement today. how does this stack up in terms of sequencing? if you're biden, you couldn't have scripted it any better after south carolina. >> there are all sorts of indications. there was a national poll conducted just yesterday, just on sunday.

so, one day post south carolina. biden's moving up seven points nationally. getting into something close to a tie. i think sanders was ahead. nukdss in indications in a lot of the states and possibly consolidation around joe biden. you're looking at a delicate landslide and biden being left in the dust. states like california where he wasn't going to qualify for delegates state wide. now, i'm starting to look at scenarios. potentially we'll see what happens. but there are scenarios where biden ends up tuesday night winning striking distance of sanders for the delegate lead. >> i think i didn't appreciate -- you of course did. we talked about south carolina as being so much more representative of the democratic party and the country at large. it's also a lot bigger, a lot

more people participating in saturday night's election there. >> half a million people. and one of the questions we've been tracking has been the turnout question. how does it compare to 2016 and 2008. what you saw in south carolina was they blew past the number and 2008 is the high watermark of the modern democratic primary. >> so bernie sort of half included changing turnout. biden is the one who's done it so far? >> south carolina, certainly. and interestingly when you start to look at county by county, charleston county. this is the area -- this is the one congressional district they flipped in 2019. you're talking about the voters who went over to the democrats in the trump-era converts. a lot of them traditionally

voting pocket issues. they're the folks who, in the two primary states, have caused a big increase in turnout. >> how do the klobuchar voter and the buttigieg voter help biden tomorrow? >> i don't know how they're going to break. if you're with buttigieg, you're with biden. what helps biden is he needs and he's getting a pool of voters at the last minute that he can tap into. these thresholds are so important. massachusetts, 111 delegates up for grabs. that's a big pool. as of saturday night we're watching the results coming in for south carolina. biden was about to get zero delegates in massachusetts. if he can take this cons consolidation and get past 15, he can get a big -- in massachusetts, colorado, california, it's the difference between being 3 or 400 delegates

behind bernie sanders. >> this race was never going to be boring, but i didn't think it was going to be this dramatically prone to swerve. he's been telling me that voters are looking for the most electable candidate. and that their priority is to remove trump. i know you have heard that from voters. i know you hear that from your former colleague. >> i think we'll know more tomorrow night because we're going to see a sweep of more southern states weighing in. i'm interested to see, especially, where the black vote goes and if they track with south carolina. i was on the edman pettis bridge yesterday in selma, alabama and i saw the different reception that all the candidates were getting. and biden, especially, was very popular there. the enthusiasm is very high.

but it kind of considered to me in talking to every day voters on this bridge that we may have down played, as much as we talk about the obama connection, we may have down played the significance of what it means to people. they don't say i love joe biden and i can't see myself voting for anybody else. they say everything that we built under barack obama and the 50 years that came before is at stake in this election. and so we are trying to defend this country that we've now recognized that we don't see ourp sel ourselves playing a role in a fair and equal way under donald trump. so, that's what's at stake and they know joe biden. they say he's somebody they can trust. i saw lots of people say they saw biden performing weak in the early states and that led them to bloomberg or pete. these are voters who are willing to do whatever it takes to get this job done. >> i think she's absolutely right.

i hear it in my family, in our neighborhoods across generations. and i think one of the interesting things to me is you didn't get the generational split that we had all been kind of expecting because bernie was going to get the young people and biden was going to get the old people. not true at all. in south carolina, biden went across the board, every generation, different races and communities and i thought that was instructive and the question now, of course, is at this late stage and him being behind the eight ball, can he really turn that into a big victory as close as he needs to get on super tuesday tomorrow evening? i don't know. and i don't know where the other voters are going to split because still at the top of the list is i want to beat donald trump and i'm going to get on whatever horse it takes to get me across that finish line. >> in terms of the people that

have these conversations with us most often, you were very open to a bernie candidacy. you're not -- as are you, david. i think for former republicans too. it's like electability is the only thing. be but to hear you make those points. that's why i asked you about the arguments bernie's been making. it seems bernie's connection to his voters is stronger than ever because they're motivated by revenge and avenging what they feel happened in 2016. and the people that like him like what he's selling. but the larger swaulgt th is lo at electability. and in terms of what we saw in south carolina, it knew no color boundary, no age boundary and no gender. >> it says we're a democratic party -- one a party that's going to be united in the end and even among the bernie voters, people to want to beat this guy.

they know he's been bad for so many of us and he's harmed our communities and he's the existential threat everyone talks of. i feel like you don't run the risk of completely alienating supporters in the consolidation talk. rit it's a little troubling to me because it suggests they're over there and we're over here. >> bernie -- steyer didn't endorse anybody, elizabeth warren is in the race. >> and he's going to reach out to those people. you saw biden right away. intentionally reaching out to people who were with somebody else. that's what you have to do and that's the process it takes to win the nomination and whether you're bernie or whether you're biden or bloomberg, i don't totally count him out yet. but he's going to -- bloomberg's going to have to make a real

rational for why he is even in the race given his rational for getting in. >> we're going to get to that question in a minute. >> democrats need to be very careful how they're approaching this consolidation against bernie sanders. bernie is the only candidate that can turn out 10,000 people on a wednesday night. he's leading a movement. i think what we were surprised about is the amount of sheer momentum joe biden captured out of that and also the unity that has occurred in 48 hours. i don't think anybody expected those two things. and it's confronting bernie sanders in a very consolidated way. i get to say this as a dispassionate sideline observer. be careful how you go after bernie, because you may not want him to be the nominee but you need his voters to win in november. and if this looks like what bernie sanders is correctly

describing as the corporate establishment democrats out to beat back their movement, they're going to lose some of your most energized, democratic voters going to november. i don't think it's a good look for democrats right now. i think it's getting too far out there that they have to stop sanders. you don't. you need to nominate the candidate you believe can best beat donald trump. any of the candidates are making the case they could do that. and they're reminding me -- and i think that's right. when barack obama addresses the convention, it will be behind a unified nominee. >> and the unity ticket used to mean a democrat and republican. someone from bernie's wing of the democratic party or biden and someone from biden's wing. but on policy t >> again, i'm not a democrat.

>> i don't believe there are big differences. for example on health care, it's a question of how do you get is there tomeric sure everybody -- >> one can be counted and one costs infinity. >> i know but -- >> i know but? >> i'm saying the value center of health care is the same across there and so i don't know that -- i mean, you're always going to have a group of people incredibly passionate about a particular approach but most people just want health care and i think we can find a top of the ticked and maybe an ideological way of uniting this ticket that's different than we thought in the past where we have to have geography that unites the party. >> we make a mistake thinking only bernie wants medicare for all. 30% of democratic voters want this platform. they have to be listened to, even if there's a consolidation against bernie.

>> and "saturday night live" made a great point in the context of the coronavirus crisis, which is on most people's minds. universal health care doesn't sound that bad. thank you for leaving your board and sitting down with us at the table. thank you very much. when we come back with concerns arising since saturday that new york city mayor mike bloomberg may be pulling votes from a surging joe biden, there are questions about whether he's hurting or helping the democratic cause. and there's new reporting on the spread of coronavirus in this country, including the first case in new york and testing kits for the disease. frrm and as donald trump insists his campaign rallies are very safe from coronavirus. there's reports of chaotic. man: sneezes

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someone in charge who can marshal facts and expertise to confront the problem. >> mike bloomberg making a pretty decent point there. but here's a point if joe biden wrote the same script, would anyone notice? this is going to be asked publicly more and more. moderates ending their 2020 campaigns to line up behind a suddenly surging joe biden. bloomberg's viability has long been linked to biden's demize and now that the vice president is performing heading to super tuesday with the wind at his back, two tendorsement said tonight, is there a case to be made to stay in the race for michael bloomberg? joining us to explain why of course there is. what say you? >> i say we're going to wait and hear from voters. with all due respect to all of the good people on the panel there who are friends too and in

the media and the political actors i've come to know more intimately in the campaign, we want to hear what voters have to say. i think party actors are coalescing around biden right now because they want to stop bernie's rise. our view is that we were never in the first four primary states anyway. we knew our first test was going to be super tuesday. our logic hasn't changed since we started. and so, we're getoolioing to wa see what voters say tomorrow. we don't feel that the party is going to be crippled between now and then. we don't think bernie sanders' rise is going to change materially over the next two weeks in terms of our participation in the race. and there's been a lot of handicapping and odds making

around this that's really gone on a roller coaster. when we entered, the thought was it was a hail mary pass from mike and after iowa and new hampshire, he's a savior because biden's falling apart and now vice president biden had an outstanding performance in south carolina and there's an assumption that will continue into other states. but there's a very good possibility too this could be a dead cat bounce. he doesn't have a ground operation in most of the super tuesday states that we are in. he hasn't been spending money there. so, i think that has to be tested and we want mike to be tested with voters before we decide next steps. >> how do you think mike is doing with voters and as a candidate in the states? >> clearly the first debate was a setback. but we know at a very granular level, state by state, how he's performing and we are go took

collect a lot of delegates tomorrow. voters still understand why he's a great candidate. they understand there's a trash can fire in the white house. and that mike bloomberg is the one most capable of putting it out and i think fixing the things donald trump has broken. he has more governing experience than anyone else running. and we've been making that case since early december in the ground. it's different being on the ground and talking to voters day in and day out and how much closer to reality it is. i think bernie sanders' rise was underestimated by the media but you could see it on the ground. joe biden has been beaten back and forth like a test crash dummy. and we've had our ups and downs and we know we have a strong case to make and voters are responding to it

>> mike bloomberg has three of the smartest people advising him. and you weren't part of the campaign four years age, but the people around him made the calculation if he were to enter in 2016, he would have harmed hillary clinton and helped donald trump. why isn't the same cal kulgcula being made about joe biden? if you look at the first primary results and you just put joe biden's performance next to hillary clinton, it was on par with barack obama's in 2008. >> i don't think these first four races are dispositive. when they mentioned earlier, i think one, that there's still a lot we need hear from voters. i think the party has to be very careful about engineering this in a way in which party elders are trying to push for a result that's going to alienate voters that have not been fully heard from yet.

we know we have a lot of voters that want to be heard from around mike's candidacy. >> what's your definition of success tomorrow night? >> lots and lots of delegates. but i'm not going to put a number on that. we're going to be competitive in every state and viable in every state and i think it's important to see what that landscape looks like wednesday, thursday. i think california will take a couple days to settle and see what the numbers look like. we understand the most important thing in this election season is to mike sure donald trump is not re-elected. we will support, ultimately, whoever the nominee is and this big machine will be in the service of the party. but we want to see what voters have to say. >> you come back anytime you want and spend time with us. after the break with new cases of coronavirus reported in the country, new deaths in the news,

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>> we're dealing with an evolving situation, an emerging infectious disease that has reached outbreak proportions and likely pandemic proportions. if you look at multiple definitions of what a pandemic is. the fact this is multiple, sustained transmissions of a highly infectious agent in multiple regions of the globe. >> that was dr. anthony fauci, one of the leading public health officials with our own richard e e engel. three more people have died in washington state, bringing the death toll to six as the total number of cases in the u.s. climbs to at least 89. president trump is expected to depart any minute for a campaign rally after meeting this hour on potential treatments including vaccines.

that's as a "washington post" described mayhem behind the scenes as the trumped a minstration fails to find it's footing after a deeply partisan political response. plus the director of global women's health at nyu's college of global health. phil, let me start with you and the weekend reporting, which was a stunning look inside this operation. we just heard from the man who has been speaking out about global health issues. when i worked for president bush , it was the bird flu. and a change was made where some of his media appearances were to go to the vice president's office. the vice president, when given an opportunity to say no, the media and democrats do not wish for millions to die, refused to seize the opportunity. where is this white house response at this moment?

it seems, at best, uneven. >> it is uneven. they're trying to get control of the situation. vice president pence is leading the response. but you have input somebo presi following the news hour to hour and he has personalized this public health crisis and seemed to be baulgt -- baulgterred, that he's not being praised enough, not given enough credit for the handling of coronavirus. meanwhile, he has been suppressing some of the facts and giving what critics are calling happy talk day after day because he's trying to keep the markets from overreacting. >> let me read this from your piece. this is a way of showing, not telling. you report that minutes before president trump was preparing to

secure a skid gdish nation, centers for disease control identified in california the first u.s. case not tied to foreign trial. a sign the virus's spread in the u.s. was likely to explode. but when trump took to the news conference, intended to bring transparency, he made no mention of the california case and falsely suggested the virus might soon be eradicated in the u.s. he disagreed with tony fauci, and the next day said a miracle might make it all go away. >> yeah, nicolle, it's going to take more than a miracle it seems. by the way that great story was by three of my terrific colleagues, not by me but we're hard at work to learn more about how the administration is handling all of this. there's a real disconnect between the statements trump has

been giving when he appears along side the experts and when he appears at his campaign rally. the one he was at late last week, he called this a hoax and went after democrats in the media, saying this is their new attempt to take down president trump, coronavirus. of course, that's not true. this is a public health crisis. >> terry, you're a physician. coronavirus is real? >> yes, it's definitely real, it's definitely here. we all need to be prepared for it. it is it in the community. i think it's important we not panic and at the we practice general preventative measures to prevent getting infected with the virus. >> a physician on our show last week, she said i'm not shaking hands anymore. what sorts of things are you doing in your life to help people safeguard themselves and their families? >> i think it's important we

think about general hand hygiene, making sure our kids wash their hands. avoiding those who are sick, avoiding close contact with those coughing, sneezing, fever. i think schools are on alert, making sure the kids who are sick stay home. and these are general principals we should be practicing anyway each year because the flu is rampant and we should be exercising these measures regularly. >> could you be spreading the coronavirus if you're not coughing? >> there are asymptomatic cases. so, they're likely shedding viral particles without realizing. that's why there's community spread. so, the answer to that is yes. and we're all susceptible to being exposed by it. >> i mean, i'm hardly on the front lines of the health crisis

but i am. what is sort of the reality check on -- that's scary when you hear tony fauci say we're on the edge of a global pandemic. >> i think we should all be vigilant. >> should we take the subway? go to the movies? >> basically t is already here, right? it's already around us. so, we have to practice general preventative measures. but most people will likely get exposed, so we have to look at if you're exposed, what do you do next? where do you guy? how do you contain spread? we don't know a lot about covid 19 in pregnancy. there was a small article in the "lancet" that looked at wuhan, china.

pregnant women in their third trimester. none had severe complications and none of them transmitted it to their fetuses. but we know in other coronaviruses like sars, there is more adverse pregnancy outcomes. would it effect women earlier in their trimesters? we don't know. it's an evolving viral issue. if you're sick, have a fever a cough, if you're spiuspicious y may have it, you should go to the hospital so you can be isolated, monitored and aggressively watched. >> i don't envy your phone calls these days. thank you for that. it's the thing most people ask me. how do i stay safe? qtsds wh when we come back trump rhetoric.

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hoax. that was on a perfect conversation. they tried anything. they tried it over and over. they have been doing it since you got in. it's all turning. they lost. think of it. think of it. this is their new hoax. >> you were down in charlesto talking about democrats. somebody now is dead from this. do you regret that kind of talk?

>> no, no, no. hoax referring the action they take to try to pin this on somebody. we have done a such good. the hoax is on them. i'm not talking about what's happening here, but they're doing. that's the hoax. >> donald trump. explaining what the definition of hoax is. attacking the media over the weekend as coronavirus continues to spread across the u.s. donald trump blaming news coverage for the fear and anxiety southerning what tony fauci just described as a global pandemic. facts, david? >> personally we are witnessing in donald trump a man incapable of rising to the moment of a public health crisis. he doesn't have the wherewithal to address the moment as a president needs to. >> you mean mentally and emotional or -- what do you mean? >> his ego gets in the way. about him. can't absorb any fault. it is giving him credit for something done or not done but

that translates to a strategy politically which is fake it until you break it and then blame somebody else. there is no political win and n responding to a public health crisis. you may get commendation but he is not going to. he can assign blame and will assign blame for democrats for being irrational, switch the narrative to say democrats are trying to use it them against them and therefore they're the bigger evil than donald trump in this moment. that is a tried and trued strategy of his getting in trouble and seeing play out going back to the point he's personally not fit to meet this moment. >> donna, he re-upped the press as the enemy of the people. presidents never love the press coverage they get but i kanlt fathom president obama or president bush in the middle of a crisis where you rely on the media, local news, newpaper, cable news, network news for getting important information from your own officials to the

public. >> that's what he should be doing. we all know that. we have seen presidents do it before where they use the media to get the information out that people need so that we aren't panicking unnecessarily and, you know, doing things, buying masks and other that is aren't going to protect us and this president failed at even that basic part of leadership where you allow your experts to stand in front of the camera to assure the american people and he can't even do that and the danger is people potentially lose their lives and so this isn't just a one off attacking democrats. and those are the same democrats and republicans in the congress that he's going to need to make sure we put together the kind of funding package that we need to get through our public health system, that he's already decimated and that we have to rebuild. i just don't even know how to explain a president anymore who has zero capacity to react in a

normal way and display normal leadership as any other president would. >> i steve schmidt said a few years ago in trump's mind he is the state. >> right. >> when the state is responsible for the citizenry it blows all of his circuitry. he is not responsible for us but re-elected. >> the other way to look at is he does not see himself as a public servant at all. and part of this job is politics in public office and public service. it is about getting services, trash pickup. the cdc. and this is a president who has shown no interest in that, no understanding of the obligations and responsibilities an also has gone after the bureaucracy that supports service to the american people, gutted the cdc, gutted the global health systems that former president george bush

built around aids and hiv virus and then later that former president obama carried out that could have responded to this crisis globally and, frankly, helped keep it from our shores. >> to that point, he contradicted tony fauci again today on the vaccine saying if we have a vac soon it won't be distributable in time. how do you function part of the bureaucracy not gutted? >> i think this is also a president who hates science and has no use for it so that's part of the story here, as well. it reminds me of though governor chris christie in the ebola crisis and i remember he put a nurse under house arrest in a tent. and had her kind of under quarantine and anti-science. it is not a good look for anybody. >> all right. my thanks to mara, donna, david, most of all to you for watching.

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♪ if it's monday it's "meet the press daily." good evening. i'm chuck todd in new york. obviously super tuesday. but the coronavirus. the u.s. death toll from the coronavirus is rising with the epicenter of the virus seemingly in washington state. there's a big political story obviously reokaying, as well. democratic field appears to be shrinking by the hour and the bide