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conference for you this afternoon, all of it coming on the heels of joe biden's big night. it was a super tuesday for him, indeed, sweeping the deep south, picking up the state of texas as well. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. >> and right now on "andrea mitchell reports," mike drop. michael bloomberg bows out after a super tuesday saying he will keep his promise to defeat donald trump by throwing his support and organization behind joe biden. >> i know we can do it and you know who else knows it? donald trump. >> but will elizabeth warren drop out and join forces with bernie sanders? she's talking to her team today about the path forward after losing her home state of massachusetts last night. and the new comeback kid, joe biden winning nine states across the country, sweeping the south, pulling off stronger than expected showings in new england and a surprise win in texas
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capping a stunning 72-hour turnaround for his campaign. >> they don't call super tuesday for nothing. we were told when you got to super tuesday, it would be over. it may be over for the other guy. >> on the ropes. with biden taking the delegate lead, bernie sanders comes out swinging with new attack ads against biden including sanders first ad featuring barack obama. >> bernie is somebody who has the virtue of saying exactly what he believes, great authenticity, passion and is fearless. and good day, i'm andrea mitchell in new york as joe biden's big night and mike bloomberg's departure from the race are rocking the contest even as elizabeth warren is considering her next steps. bloomberg is exiting the stage after picking up 18 delegates.
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he's keeping a promise to keep the focus on defeating donald trump issuing a statement saying in part, i entered the race for president to defeat donald trump, today i'm leaving the race for the same reason. to defeat donald trump. i always believed defeating donald trump starts with uniting behind the candidate with the best shot to do it. after yesterday's vote, it is clear that candidate is my friend joe biden. we made our slogan a simple promise, mike will get it done, and i continue to keep working on the "it." . joining me now is mike memoli with reaction from the biden camp, josh lederman who's been covering the bloomberg campaign, adrienne elrod, former senior adviser to hillary clinton's 2016 campaign, john heilemann and michael steele. first to you, josh lederman, let's go to you first, what
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about bloomberg's decision, how quickly can this come together, and what legally can he do? they say he's going to help with analytics, targeting. what can he do? >> i'm told that they saw the writing on the wall before the results came in last night, in those final days after the south carolina primary when the democratic party started coalescing behind joe biden. they were looking at their internal polling that was showing that a lot of the voters were making up their minds last minute. after a lot of these negative stories came out about bloomberg and they realized that was going to mean a landslide for joe biden. what happens next? bloomberg has said he's committed to keeping this massive army of field organizers and staffers out theres as well as keeping offices open, particularly in battleground states that are going to be critical to who wins the next election. it's not like mike bloomberg can go ahead and bankroll the nominee. he's like any american, he's
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subject to federal election contribution limits, 2,800 bucks a person. what he can do is turn himself into a massive superpac. he can spend unlimited sums in attack ads against donald trump or positive ads for the nominee. he can keep offices open as well as digital efforts. >> john heilemann, you've known mike bloomberg well. as an analyst, if they're so smart, if they're targeting is so terrific, why didn't it work for them? why would it work for biden? >> andrea, the one thing we've learned is that, you know, candidates matter, momentum matters, free media matters more than any of the mechanics of politics and more than the advertising. they went as far as they could go with the strategy that before mike bloomberg got on that debate stage in las vegas when he was just purely a candidate who lived in people's minds on
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television ads, they pushed him into this range. they got a late start. they spent all this money. they had him breaking through with african-american voters, but voters want to see a candidate. they want to know, can this he first time they had a chance to see that was at the debate and had a record-setting audience where tens of millions of people looked up and saw mike bloomberg and said, no, that guy can't take on donald trump. that guy is not up to the job of taking on donald trump. the performance was bad. and i think from the moment, to josh's point, from the moment that debate happened, the poll numbers collapsed instantly and they could see it in their internal data very quickly that that was a catastrophic failure on michael bloomberg's part. they will ask whether or not it was a smart move to put him on the debate stage or not. >> he was targeted by all of
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them, particularly elizabeth warren. all of them beating up on him and certainly bernie sanders and the billionaire meme. i'm not sure anyone could have pivoted, but if he could have pivoted to a lot of his progressive policies on climate change, on guns, but it became a defensive crowd on the ndas. mike memoli, how open -- how open is the biden camp to receiving this help? there was a conversation i'm told this morning and they in fact put out a statement from joe biden saying that he welcomes the endorsement of mike bloomberg. but how is this actually going to work? because joe biden has not recognized or diagnosed a lot of the problems in his own campaign, not until jim clyburn told him he had to do something about shaking up his team. >> reporter: that's right, andrea. i think there's a very real willingness on the part of the
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biden team to accept whatever help mike bloomberg is willing to offer. there have been conversations very much below the principle level over the past week or so in order to lay the groundwork for that because it was -- there was a clear realization on the biden team, one of the factors of why they thought super tuesday was going to be a lot better than them were expecting was because of this tom steyer effect taking hold as it did in south carolina, the guy who spent the most on the air and also on the ground, frankly, dropping off the map once voters had to make a choice. and so what you've seen in the past 48 hours, including on monday with the endorsement of mayor pete buttigieg, beto o'rourke, amy klobuchar, is that the former vice president is very good at being gracious. you see in his tweet today, putting aside any of the criticisms he was making of michael bloomberg on the debate
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stage, on issues like stop-and-frisk and calling attention to where they do agree on issues like climate change and on gun violence. gun safety was one of the principle issues he used targeting bernie sanders. that's the initial message focused on that. they were certainly expecting to do better, as i said, than most of us were expecting, but there were surprising to them last night too. massachusetts primarily. what they see there is a real laser focus on the part of democratic voters to try to get this race to conclusion as quickly as possible. they believe democratic voters don't have the type of appetite for a long, prolonged nomination fight and for the kind of attacks that bernie sanders is already making on the vice president given what everyone what happened in 2016. joe biden is pitching a big tent
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and hoping to welcome everybody including bernie sanders into it. the question is, how will the sanders campaign play out the next few weeks. >> and you know exactly how tough it can be to be in a civil war with bernie sanders. >> yes. >> right now the thinking of some of the bloomberg people and outsiders would be, right now joe biden not only is ahead of sanders in delegates for the first time, but could be on a trajectory to have a plurality of delegates. but what if elizabeth warren drops out? what if she drops out and endorses bernie sanders? >> then it's going to be that much harder, andrea. and you were with us every step of the way covering our campaign in 2016. there were times we felt like bernie sanders was not going to be a formidable candidate and the real race started in iowa and he almost beat us there and it was a very, very challenging
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race and we underestimated him. i think the biden campaign has learned, they saw what happened in 2016, they will not underestimate bernie sanders. but it's going to be that much more difficult. elizabeth warren, if she does drop out and endorse bernie sanders, this race will tighten even more. i think the march 15th debate that's coming up, we'll see who qualifies. that's going to be a big debate for joe biden. but there's still -- this race is far from being over. >> michael steele, the president has weighed in. he's been trolling them all along and now he's going after mike bloomberg. let's see what he just had to say. >> i think joe has an easier path right now, believe it or not. i see mini mike just got out. he's going to, you know, try and save face by putting money into biden's campaign. we'll see what happens. i don't think that's going to have an impact. you got to look -- money has to be spent wisely. one thing this whole thing is shown, you can't buy an
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election. bloomberg put in probably a billion dollars and, you know, sometimes you just don't have what it takes. >> michael steele? >> bless his heart. bloomberg didn't put in a billion dollars, number one. number two, the undertone of what the president is saying there or not saying is that he recognizes now that this -- to adrian's point, this election has transformed. it is different. it will tighten some, but in the end, i think the democrats have sent the signal that they really want to come after trump and they think biden is the guy to do it and mike bloomberg is the one who is going to help fuel that operation as best he can from, you know, an independent expenditure standpoint which is something that is going to be -- have to be reckoned with. i think the president knows now
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that he's not going to get the race he wants. he won't be able to throw the socialism meme around because bernie may be, but biden is not. the country doesn't believe that and won't believe it. so he's going to have to come up with a better game plan and i think biden having taken those early shots from the president is going to be in a tougher position -- a toughened position to withstand some of that. he's going to have to get a little bit stronger and into that debate piece and maybe we'll see a little bit of that in the next debate. but i think the democrats are now prepared, andrea, to sort of fully ramp up behind biden and to the earlier point that was made, to get this game on. do not drag this out. they want to start the general election before june. they would love to start it by april if possible. >> starting it by april if possible, john heilemann, means sweeping the march primaries and
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keeping bernie sanders contained. and if elizabeth warren drops out, that's going to be a lot harder. >> it's hard, andrea, to make up -- with the way the allocation works in the democratic process, a small delegate lead is hard to chip away at. you need to win by big numbers. joe biden has a strong calendar ahead of him. he was -- this was supposed to be the bad night for him, super tuesday. he's got the georgia primary coming up, he's going to do well there. next tuesday he has mississippi, missouri. michigan is going to be a big fight. bernie sanders won that in 2016. here in the northeast, it's strong for joe biden. he's in a good place. but the reality is, back in 2016, the day after super tuesday, we were just discussing this, the day after super tuesday when hillary clinton performed on super tuesday much like biden did last night, winning a lot of southern states, she came out of that ahead -- >> it should have been a walk.
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>> it should have been a walk. and bernie sanders won michigan and you had three months of fierce fighting with a 210-pledge delegate lead. we're likely to have only one of 60 right now. bernie sanders is going to fight. he's got unlimited resources effectively. he's going to fight for the next three months. nothing is going to stop this from being a baton death march with each of these candidates going after each other hammer and tongs. that's not avoidable. a baton death marched with hammer and tongs. and pigs in a blanket. >> i cannot recall another instance where there's been such a dramatic change in 72 hours in a national campaign. >> extraordinary. >> it's incredible. >> one of the concerns democrats have, the fact that you had the establishment kind of unite at one moment behind joe biden is really going to set off a lot of sanders' supporters who say this is the party trying to hand the
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nomination to the establishment figure over sanders and there's concerns of what that does to turnout. >> well, the game on. thank you so much. adrienne elrod, john heilemann and of course michael steele -- and mike memoli. >> jim clyburn joins us now. you are the man of the hour, the king maker. there's no underestimating, understating the difference your very emotional, personal endorsement made. if not for south carolina, we would not be here. joe biden would not be here. >> well, thank you so much for that andrea. were it not for the community that i represent, i would not have made that kind of an endorsement speech. i was perfectly willing to say who i was going to vote for. i issued a press release.
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until i attended a rural church and had an elderly lady becken me. she said, you lean down. i need to ask you something. she asked me, who was i voting for? she said, just whisper it in my ear. and she said, this community needs to hear from you. and i talked to other people there that day and i came to the conclusion that the african-american community, especially, were laying back, wanting some validation of joe biden. and so i got involved because i knew that that was -- he is the one guy that african-americans by and large wanted to vote for. and they've demonstrated that in virginia, north carolina, all over. down in texas. i think i've seen the figures
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saying nearly 70% of all the african-americans who cast votes on yesterday voted for joe biden. and then we have some people dismissing that vote. i got a lot of phone calls from people very upset because a surrogate from one of the other candidates said south carolina does not matter. that was like saying that african-american votes do not matter. i think that we have to, as a party, begin to recognize the value and the worth of every voter irrespective of background, irrespective of region, and that's the kind of thing that has gotten our party into so much trouble, running a 17-state presidential campaign as we have fallen into, is something we got to stay away from. run 50 states. run across the demographics.
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go out and speak to hispanics in their communities, speak to african-americans in their communities. all strata, let's bring everybody under this tent. and so that's why i'm so pleased with mayor pete, with amy, with beto and now with mike bloomberg for getting out of the race and coalescing around joe biden. i would hope that we can hurry up and get out of this contest and focus on restoring this country to its rightful place in the world and restoring every person within this country into their rightful place inside of our democracy. >> congressman, what can mike bloomberg bring to joe biden? you criticized joe biden's organization, the way the campaign was being run. can bloomberg help there or will it only lead to more criticism from bernie sanders and other
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critics? >> i used the word "criticism" in the broad sense. a lot of people make it a negative. let's say i made a critique of his campaign. and i really believe, as i said later, that a lot of what was wrong could be cured with finances and i wanted those people who wanted him to win and their funders standing on the sidelining trying to see if he would win, he was in a catch-22. we needed to have fund-raising beefed-up. and so that happened within, i guess, 24 hours of the south carolina victory. i would love to see mike bloomberg allow his organization -- he's got some of the best political operatives i know operating in this campaign. if they were allowed to come in
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to joe biden's campaign, he's got some of the deepest pockets i know in this business. and they have operations that need to be funded in this campaign. so many places i went, there was no sign of a joe biden's campaign. yard signs were important in various communities. my wife would never let me run for re-election if i did not have a billboard. these kinds of presence are very important. when you put your yard sign in somebody's yard, they feel a part of the effort. and so this whole notion that we should not have the kind of ground operation, spend all of your resources on television, this is not anything against television. but you must supplement that with getting people involved in the effort, boots on the ground, having people in the comhub communities, feeling they are a part of this effort. i said about joe biden, i know
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joe. we know joe. but most importantly, joe knows us. and he needs to demonstrate that with this campaign all day, everyday. and you do that by letting people into the effort so they can identify with you. that's why i say, laying out a path for him is one thing. having people feel you is something else. and that feeling is important. when you're trying to unseat an incumbent, that's what we're going to be trying to do in november. >> james clyburn, i think message sent. let's see if it's received. thank you so much very much. thanks for being with us. >> thank you for having me. the map and the math. we're diving into the numbers behind biden's big wins and what it means now that michael bloomberg is out. steve kornacki is back at the big board. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. sleep this amazing?
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with former mayor mike bloomberg out of the race, joe biden is looking even stronger heading into next week's primaries after his super tuesday victories put him ahead of bernie sanders in delegates for the first time. the biggest factor in his tuesday night wins, support from african-american voters. biden earned more than 60% of the vote in north carolina, 63% in virginia, 62% in tennessee and in alabama, more than 70%.
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another big factor, the final 72 hours with biden building momentum off of his south carolina primary win, gaining those key endorsements of other candidates, amy klobuchar, pete buttigieg, beto o'rourke as well. in oklahoma, 50% of voters decided which candidate to vote for in the last few days. among the late deciders, 41% voted for joe biden, 18% opted for mike bloomberg, 16% for elizabeth warren, 15% for bernie sanders. joining me now, weekend today co-host kristen welker and steve kornacki at the big board. kristen, first to you, you've been with the bidens throughout this whole really incredible 72 hours. this comeback, first of all, what is their strategy going forward? are they likely to make the kinds of changes that jim clyburn has been pushing for? will they accept mike bloomberg's help?
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>> reporter: well, i think they're taking a hard look at that advice that jim clyburn is giving them, the fact that he is saying they do need to in some aspects retool their campaign. there's no doubt that his endorsement was hugely significant in terms of that win that we saw in south carolina which really turned this entire race around. you saw that tweet from biden praising bloomberg, his candidacy, and bloomberg saying he's going to endorse joe biden. that is hugely significant. and there's the tweet there saying i can't thank you enough for your support and for your tireless work on everything from gun safety reform to climate change. those are the types of issues, andrea, that are going to energize democratic voters in the fall. in terms of the strategy moving forward, they are going to try to argue that biden is in fact the enthusiasm candidate. they'll point to the high turnout that we saw yesterday during super tuesday and also on saturday, in south carolina.
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some of biden's allies are stressing the fact that they are seeing the types of coalitions form that help democrats win in the midterms in 2018 and also the obama coalition, african-american voters, which you laid out and also suburban voters, andrea. they're going to try to build on that momentum. fund-raising is a part of it but also the narrative, the fact that he's had this comeback. they're going to try to capitalize on that. they've already gotten some more endorsements today. they'll be looking for more as well as robust fund-raising. >> thanks so much. steve kornacki, i don't know how you're still standing. but he won states where he had never even gone, alabama. extraordinary. the support that he had, the affection that the black community had for him, the fact that bernie sanders has not in five years been able to make inroads. he's done well with latinos and
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has made inroads with african-americans and has not been able to expand his base, attract those new voters he said he was going to bring to his moving. >> we've asked this question of whether there's a ceiling with bernie sanders, and it seems like there is one. with african-american voters he was running in the teens four years ago. he spent four years ago still trying to solve that problem. when you look at the age, age of voters, when you start getting above 45 and most democratic voters are over 45. when you get over 50, 60, get into that range, sanders has been struggling all along. he struggled in 2016. he's still struggling now. there was a theory when he won nevada that a bandwagon would take hold and those other groups would start to get on board with what they saw as a winner. instead, those folks rallied hard behind joe biden and what you saw yesterday, it was unbelievable given where things had been just a few days
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earlier. in this part of the country here, the southeast, there were questions about whether biden was going to believe to win virginia or north carolina. instead, massive, massive biden landslides in this part of the country. he nets over -- he nets like 130 delegates or so out of this region here. and then beyond that, it's not just the southeast, it's the fact, as you say, if i can get that straight, it's the fact that he got minnesota, massachusetts. he's leading in maine right now. if you had had the primary a week earlier, he might not have gotten a single delegate out of any of those states and now he is winning them. it gets to the point where you get to california, and last night when the results from california started to come in from a delegate standpoint, biden was ahead and the only question was, could biden net 15% in california. if he hits 15%, he's viable for delegates. he will get a bunch of delegates. he will lead the delegate count at the end of the night. they're still counting them up in california. he's at 25%.
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and that same-day vote, a lot of that is still to be counted. he's easily over that 15%. he's going to get the statewide delegates. these numbers, they're both going to go up because more delegates are being added. biden is going to be in the lead coming out of the night that looked like it was tailor made for bernie sanders. >> just remarkable. one of the historic nights in american politics. steve kornacki telling the story. coming up, combatting the coronavirus as the outbreak spreads. the trump administration claims that any american can be tested for the virus. is that really true? what you need to know next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. new tide power pods one up the cleaning power of liquid.
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new york man diagnosed with the coronavirus earlier this week have all tested positive for the virus. now that concludes both -- >> we have an epidemic caused by coronavirus. but we have a pandemic that is caused by fear. there are going to be many, many people who test positive. >> joining me now is nbc medical contributor dr. joseph fair specializing in emerging viruses. you've had this father, he's a lawyer from new york, commuting into the city. one child was suspected of having it. now both have it. and apparently a neighbor as well who drove him to the emergency room. there's also the case of a new hampshire man, i believe it's a man. i don't know if it's a man or a woman. who is an employee of a major medical center in new hampshire
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who ignored the self-quarantine edict, went to vermont. are people taking this seriously enough? what are the legal remedies for people ignoring such orders? >> first of all, starting with the cases in new york, that was not unexpected. we know the infectious rate is two to three people. we've had two to three people originate from one case, and that can continue. that will continue, i should say, from each case that you do have. on average, your average person will infect two to three other people within their immediate circle. not unexpected there. the schools are being closed down for a day. that's probably not going to be adequate. in japan, they're closed for a month and we know that we have at least a 14-day incubation period before symptoms and signs will develop. >> that entire family had -- for at least two weeks had contacts
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with other people, with commuters. there's a very wide circle. >> yes. and with regards to the health care worker, you know, i try not to be too judgmental on these things, but that was completely unethical of that health care worker. i have to do some public shaming on that one because as a health care worker, you know yourself if you are instructed to be self-quarantined, you should self-quarantine yourself. that person has endangered a lot of lives. >> the president was at this event today and he said in most cases it's safe to fly. do you agree with that? >> in most cases yes. people don't get the difference between an air bourn virus and this virus. it doesn't float freely in the air. you get it through direct contact with liquid droplets that come out when you cough and sneeze. you can get it on the tray
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tables. it's a good idea to carry disinfectant wipes or having the airlines do that as a standard precaution now. >> which is not the ways yet? >> no. when they clean an airplane, it means cleaning up the trash on the airplane. having airlines implement a rule at least for now where they disinfect each seat after each flight would be prudent. >> and also, when you're sitting in a middle seat, let's say, as congested as these airlines are right now, you can get that contact with the droplets from someone sneezing, coughing next to you. >> absolutely. that is very possible. but as far as traveling through the air vents, et cetera, no. where you're most likely to get it is from the surface areas or if someone coughs or sneezes directly on you or when you go to the bathroom and you throw away the tissue, always a good idea, keep the tissue, open the door and throw it away once you get back to your seat. >> good advice, dr. fair.
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to fight until the bitter end, predicting he will be the democratic nominee despite losses to joe biden in states that sanders had expected to win. joining me now is tom perez, the chair of the democratic national committee. thanks for being with us. >> it's a pleasure, andrea. >> first of all, there's the endorsement from mike bloomberg. he's dropped out. he's offered support to joe biden. what can he do? will joe biden accept it? how do you merge these two forces together? >> well, that will be up to the vice president. i saw what he said accepting the graciousness of mayor bloomberg and we have a long way to go. and we all -- you have more experience than just about anyone i know and you see the momentum shifts in campaigns where 40% of the way through this campaign. we're not halfway to the finish line quite yet. and we've got a lot more work to do. and that's what we're trying to do at the dnc is make sure we're continuing to build this
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infrastructure. what inspires me the most about the -- really the entire primary process, andrea, is the incredible turnout. record turnout yesterday. we had record turnout in new hampshire, south carolina. both senator sanders and vice president biden are inspiring voters and we're expanding the electorate. that's what we need to do, continue to get more people out there and voting. and that's exactly what's happening across this country. and then at the end of our primary cycle, i am confident we will come together in unite because we all know that our democracy is on the ballot this november. >> with all due respect, i didn't happen last time with all the talk of unity. there really was no unity and there was a lot of resentment from the sanders people. what makes you think that bernie sanders is going to embrace joe biden after the way he's criticized him if he comes up short on delegates? >> well, look at 2008, barack
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obama and hillary clinton had a spirited campaign that went all the way to the end and they came together. they came together -- >> neither of them are bernie sanders. >> i have great faith in whoever wins the nomination. senator sanders, the vice president, they all understand that -- this is a different moment. this is the most dangerous president in american history, andrea. this is our democracy as we know it that's on the ballot. we can withstand four years of donald trump, but we can't withstand eight. and you see it in the voter turnout. 84% of the people who were polled yesterday said i will vote -- i will support whoever the nominee is. that's what we're going to do at the dnc. we've worked hard to make sure we're building trust. we engaged in very dramatic reforms of our primary process. we returned power to the people. we limited the role of superdelegates. senator sanders' team was part of that. >> do you think he will abide by
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it? >> i have great confidence that every candidate will abide by it. they understand the rules because -- >> that's not what he said at the debate. now he's no longer in the lead. in the debate he said that whoever had a plurality should be able to get the nomination. >> everybody knows that what the rules are. senator sanders knows what the rules are. and i'm confident that senator sanders will abide by the rules. here's what i don't know, i don't know who's going to win the nomination. we're not halfway to the finish line yet. yesterday was obviously a very important day, but we have more important days ahead. and so what we're going to see and what i'm looking for and what i anticipate that we'll see in the days ahead, andrea, is the continued record and near-record turnout in all of these states. if i'm donald trump and his team, i'm shaking in my boots because we are seeing record turnout from everywhere across this country. we're expanding the electorate. and he knows that the only way
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that he can win is to try to divide democrats, continue to cheat, accept foreign interference. it's remarkable to me that over the last two days, 14 tweets about the democratic primary, two tweets about coronavirus. mr. president, stop tweeting and start doing your job. i can see that you're a little bit bent out of shape because democrats are going to come together, we're united, we're energized and we're going to be voting at record levels not only in the primary but come november. >> thank you very much. thank you, mr. chairman. >> always a pleasure. march madness. what is the path forward for the remaining candidates heading into the next three weeks. we'll take a look at the next primaries to come. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. msnbc.
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and we have breaking news this hour. new numbers on the delegate race in the battle for the democratic nomination. at this hour, joe biden now has 513 delegates, bernie sanders, 461. elizabeth warren, just 47 delegates, then mayor pete had 26 delegates, which he can
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suggest go to joe biden, but there is no legal requirement of that. michael bloomberg, the same, just dropping out of the race, has 24. and amy klobuchar with 7. joining us now with the inside scoop, david wasserman, political analyst for the cook political report. let's talk about the states to come. the delegates of these candidates who have dropped out, they can be put up for grabs. people can either -- well, in most cases, people are not bound, but what about the states to come. michigan, florida? march 10th. michigan, 147 delegates. that has been a strong state for bernie sanders, at least he very narrowly lost to hillary clinton last time around. >> andrea, this could be over fairly soon with joe biden becoming the presumptive nominee in my estimation. keep in mind, a lot of the delegates, a lot of the votes that bernie sanders won yesterday were attributable to votes cast before south carolina, before buttigieg and
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klobuchar dropped out of the race. we're talking california, we're talking about a fairly close margin in texas that was only close because sanders banked so many early votes. the rest of the states were blowouts. if bernie sanders can't win decisively in michigan next week, a state that he carried against hillary clinton in 2016, then it's almost impossible to see a path forward for him, considering what else is on the map that's good for biden, namely florida, georgia, and you get to mississippi, louisiana, new jersey, maryland. these are going to be great states for him based on his breadth of support across both african-americans and affluent suburban whites. >> what happens ifdecides to dr join forces with bernie sanders against joe biden? >> look, that could happen. but democrats could also decide that they do not want a prolonged fight for the nomination. that they want to rally around a presumptive nominee in order to
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unite against trump. we saw that happen in 2004. last night's outcome with biden not only winning the states that we expected him to win, like virginia and alabama, but winning massachusetts? winning minnesota? winning texas, being ahead in maine, these are statement messages that send a message to other democratic voters across the country. >> what about bernie sanders, just very briefly, he's going to fight to the end, he said. >> and we saw in 2016, he continued to fight for months after his path had essentially been curtailed. and the same thing could happen here. biden does have a lot of changes when it comes to uniting the party, namely bringing sanders' supporters onboard and he has some weaknesses heading into a general election, frankly. >> david wasserman, thank you. and we'll be right back. wasser. and we'll be right back. hot! hot!
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and now here is chris jansing. >> andrea mitchell, thank you so much. hello, everyone. i am chris jansing. today, we're looking at a renaissance, the likes of which we arguably haven't seen since the time of michelangelo. okay, a little bit of hyperbole there. but the political renaissance of joe biden and the reaction to his remarkable super tuesday, all of it happening with stunning speed. today, former new york mayor michael bloomberg dropped out of the race and pledged to h