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stocks surged after super tuesday wins from former vice president joe biden because of a massive rally within the health care sector. the s&p 500 jumped about 3% while the nasdaq rose close to 3%. that wraps up the hour from me. "deadline white house" with my friend, nicolle wallace starts right now. hi, everyone. it's 4:00 in new york on the first day of the rest of the democratic primary competition that now looks very much like a two-man race between joe biden and bernie sanders. joe biden with a super tuesday sweep of ten states and counting that typically only comes after millions are spent in political ads, campaign staff, field offices, ground game and travel in the contested states. joe biden doing none of that and having a comeback that our own
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steve kwur nacky described as shocking in the scope and speed in which it came about. and a groundswell of supported by both african-americans and moderates, biden was also lifted by the impassioned 11th-hour indorgsmentes from his one-time rivals and effectively dethroning bernie sanders as the definitive frontrunner and his delegate hall so decisive that new york mayor mike bloom bfl, today, dropped out and endorsed biden. this ignited by biden's landslide victory four nights ago, propelling him to victory in states he never visited. quote, a remarkable show of force for mr. biden adding that in just three days he resurrected a campaign that had been on the verge of collapse after he lost the first three
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nominating states. mr. biden's sweep across the south and the midwest showed he has the makings of a formidable coalition that could propel him to the primaries. mr. biden rolled to victory in several states with his support of large majorities of african-americans and performed well with a demographic that was crucial in the 2018 midterm elections, college-educated white voters. biden declaring a new beginning for his campaign. >> just a few days ago the press and the pundits declared the campaign dead and then came south carolina and then they started to say -- [ applause ] primary report, we are very much alive. and make no mistake about it, this campaign will send donald trump packing. people are talking about a revolution.
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we started a movement, we've increased turnout. the turnout's turnout for us. >> and he's right about that. the biden's rerival marks just the beginning of a long fight to the finish in a primary race far from over. bernie sanders, who is, at this hour, holding on to his lead in california, the biggest delegate prize of all is in full force intensifying his attacks in what is likely to be a preview of what's to come. >> joe and i have a very different voting record. joe and i have a very different campaigns. joe is running a campaign, which is heavily supported by the corporate establishment. he has received funding from at least 60 billionaires. does anyone seriously believe
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that a president backed by the corporate world is going to bring about the changes that working families and the middle class. >> that's where we start today with some of our favorite reporters and friends, here at the table, basel smiekal, former aid to the state department and elysse jordan and msnbc and nbc news correspondent. our lifeline on these nights. but i can't stand the smear from sanders that i've really only heard in the last five days that this victory from biden, both last saturday and last night is a result of the democratic establishment. every time i hear that, i will say this. the victory that joe biden
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experienced saturday night in south carolina was the result of the clyburn endorsement and the voters, african-american, old, young, and otherwise. they were saying he should have gone out on top -- i mean, maybe people only say that at cocktail parties. that's the truth. but this attack, these battle lines are already starting to feel hot. >> and we've talked about these crowded debate stages. we'll see what elizabeth warren ends up deciding to do. butted you have the possibility of sanders, biden, and biden having an hour to himself in the two-hour debate. i think that's the biggest variable i see because demographically, regionally,
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very clear fault lines and they favor joe biden. what i see is them both together one on one, does something happen either way that changes things? >> about last night. as we're watching these things come in, it looked like an omg, but no one said anything. and i'm looking through my notes. and you stood up there and said this is shocking. what were you looking at? >> i think it was the third or fourth time i was looking at a stated where polls six days earlier showed biden was going to get zero delegates and now he was winning. virginia -- there was a poll in virginia, i think ten days ago, that had a two-way tie and biden got 53% of the vote in virginia. he won by 30 points. he started looking at -- i had
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this delegate calculator. we went in the last couple weeks saying super tuesday is going to be sanders night, and probably win texas, blah blah blah. the question is how close is the nearest competitor? i'm doing the double take and saying did i enter a number wrong because i'm seeing biden ahead at the end of the night. and as innight went on, that's what's going to happen. >> and to show some of our homework, i think after your coverage. we were in the same stud so i. it looked very much like bernie sanders was the one assembling a broader coalition and had been underestimated. i think people underestimate bernie sanders and the intensity of the support at their own peril, but that story wasn't repeated last night.
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>> is there -- is this what we see in the past? the candidate who wins the early states, there's a bandwagon effect and folks reluctantly get on board and it gets bigger and bigger. demographically, four years ago, the ruin of bernie sanders campaign was south carolina. he'd been competitive in iowa, new hampshire, and four years ago and he said back then is not going happen again and he did 16%. if you really look at voters over 60, there are a lot of them. he had the problem four years ago and there's evidence it's changed at all. instead of a bandwagon effect, there's a ceiling. >> one more question i have for you is -- because i think because of your coverage of the
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structure of this primary, it required a lot of us to go to our own home wrg. and when you see it, seems so vast, it's so intense. i don't know there's any politician in the world that can turn out 10,000 voters in boston on a saturday in the snow. but there is this question of his theory about turnout. he prommed a turnout model that would change the outcome. and biden is the one exceeding president obama's? is that right? >> 10/15,000 for sanders and dozens for biden a couple of weeks ago. >> you still might. >> but, yes, it is. when sanders started winning early, people started thinking about the trump effect.
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there was good turnout in the republican primaries in 2016. it told me he was tapping into some real energy on the republican side. in iowa, they were flat. sanders got 25% of the first preference vote. won new hampshire, 26. won nevada, 33% of the vote. and so the question there was does it grow because he's winning? biden -- quickly, biden is on the verge of pulling off something without precedent. losing the first three states. he got buried in the first three states and suddenly an outright majority, and sweeps super tuesday and he's the frontrunner. >> now, i have worked for enough campaigns to know this is sometimes the most dangerous part of the candidacy, when you're feeling good. i mean, in all these wins last
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night, ten and we're not done with the counting, with no ads in any of the states, very few field offices, no travel in a lot of the states. how do you keep the results from last night and scaling a national campaign? >> well, look, it's just like we drew it up. look, i think what we have to do is continue to do what's working. what's working is people hearing joe biden's message. when he comes on shows like your show a week ago and other shows, people in all the states hear him. one thing about no travel. some of the states, the vice president didn't visit but dr. jill biden spent time in tennessee, oklahoma and arkansas and she's been a real secret weapon in all this. >> you know, i'm glad you made that point. and with people that prevail and the spouse is such an important -- they can say things about their spouses, about the candidate that they don't say
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about themselves. fair point. >> but, look, going forward what vice president said last night in his victory speech on super tuesday about this being a campaign for everyone who's been left behind and knocked down and left out, that is a powerful message re message resonating with voters and you matched it with people feeling his character. what struck about the endorsements was the emotion. and them saying genuinely affectionate things about him. he wears his heart on his sleeve. he is the antithesis of donald trump in this moment 347 someone who brings class and compassion and decency. i think that's winning voters over in this moment. >> what is the strategy for dealing with the bernie sanders? it's almost a trumpian effort to
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brand joe biden as the product or beneficiary of a democratic establishment, which i think i know politic well enough to know the democratic establishment really had very little to do with saturday night's victory in south carolina. >> as you said vice president biden won in south carolina thanks to a great endorsement from whip clyburn and thanks to voters not heard in iowa, new hampshire, not that much in nv nc nv, got their chance to be heard in north carolina and across super tuesday. they are not the party's establishment. they are the party's heart and soul and base. and any candidate who cannot get those votes cannot be the nominee. as whip clyburn said they know biden and biden knows him.
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there's an ad of him and barack obama walking around the white house. i think he's not going to be able to break that tie. >> what is the strategy if joe biden is successful, does rack up enough delegates to be the party's nomination to bring bernie sanders's veoters into te fold so he faces donald trump with the strongest and most diverse coalition of democratic voteards behind him? >> this is a hard fight and we know senator sanders and the supporters are in it to win it now. when you heard the vice president say last night is he didn't attack senator sanders and his supporters. he was talking about bringing everyone together. being a uniter as well as a fighter of all the democrats and independents and yes, republicans too to get this country back from donald trump
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and to move this country forward and that's been his message all along in this campaign. they said this is a party that doesn't want a uniter. it is a feisty moment. but i think people want decency and they want a big tent and that's what joe biden's bringing to this. >> you know, i think ron's made a cup -- one about how close attention people are paying to news events. there weren't a lot of ads up and jill biden is a powerful surrogate but you can't get in front of every voter in every super tuesday. state. this is a signal voters send was, the only parallel i can think of is the one white caucus goers in iowa sent in 2008 when they delivered president obama that win and the electability question was suddenly answered for all democratic primary voters. >> i don't know any singular elected official that has as much sway over a tremendous
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number of votes in a particular constituency as joe c -- and i remember lewis 1 n dorsed hillary clinton but his district went to obama. and he made a difficult decision to change his endorsement from hillary to obama. different circumstances. but what he was saying was for the future of my party, for these young people that are pushing me in this direction, i have to make this decision. and so what i think about now is whether or not, because of the generational cleavage he was talking about, because we have this generational divide, are we going to see a prolonged divide between these younger voters, who do want substantial change. it's not an indictment of bernie sanders' ideas. but the older people who say
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this is the person who represents the party that has provided political, social, economic power for me and my family and that's why you see so many voters move in that direction. >> and it wasn't even close. and because i think what the bernie sanders base deal is it's not enough. the policies that bernie is behind would represent such a dramatic overhaul. joe biden's are different from donald trump but a continuation of the policies president obama fought for. that's what drove record turnout. it's more than that. but it's interesting the revolution didn't drive the turnout. it was a return to policies in line with the obama policies. >> i have been so focussed on watching the passion driving bernie sanders and hiz revolution that i missed just how strong the fervor to get
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donald trump out of office is. it's what we saw in the midterms. we saw how people came out in record numbers and just the numbers of people who came out, who were willing to wait in line for hours and hours. that is the passion that donald trump is up against in 2020. >> that is such a good point and i missed that too. i think we're always humbled when we watch the results come in on your board and the pictures of the voters. as i watched chris walk that line, i thought texas is going to go for bernie. and you're right. the lines may say as much a about the passion to get rid of donald trump as they do, i guess, about joe biden because he won texas. >> and i would not underestimate that passion was going to be there. a year ago i said joe biden
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would never win the democratic nomination. look at where the state of the race is right now and how so many favorites, candidates voters were in love with have fallen by the way side and how voters are returning to joe biden when they think the fate of the democratic party and the republic and winning senate seats back hinges on that. >> and bernie sanders's message is in part talkish about voters that have been left behind. when has a black person in this country not felt they've been left behind? and i think tapping into that and the energy to get rid of donald trump, that's driving all of this. >> let me give you last word and ask you to tell me what are we looking at? what's coming next? >> this was the thing. the expectation was sanders needed a big day. you've got to maximize your opportunities to rack up delegates. the fact he didn't do it and
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he's going to be behind, he'll say it's pretty close. maybe sanders has a shot. but the demographic and regional patterns. it's not a very big state but joe biden won next door in alabama 63-16% yesterday. it's because of overwhelming support of black voters. now that we're in a delegate game, he's going to win the vast majority of the delegates. he's going to net probably 30 delegates. big state of michigan p that also votes next week, that would be better than 2016. he'd probably net eight or ten delegates from that. he's positioned to run up the score in mississippi, florida, in all of these states, he's positioned to get landslides. >> that's so interesting.
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my last question to you is about secret service protection. does the vice president and dr. jill biden have for it? one of them, dr. jill biden. >> the other simone sanders, spokesperson and body guard. black women saved a biden campaign. in south carolina and saved a the bidens. i'm going to let the campaign comment specifically about secret service protekds. it is nerve racking. watching last night was nerve racking but i have a lot of confidence in our security people and we'll let the secret service play out the appropriate way. >> ideas and we hope everybody on the trail stays safe. congrats on leeading us through
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that. and when when we come back, with mike bloomberg out of the race, how much he's willing to spend to keep donald trump out of the white house. and nearly a year ago donald trump put into motion a scheme so diabolical he got impeached carrying it out. what will donald trump try next? also ahead bernie sanders goes on the offense against the new frontrunner, using president obama to help him. we'll go inside the new democratic battle. inside the n democratic battle. your mission: stand up to moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. and take. it. on with rinvoq. rinvoq a once-daily pill can dramatically improve symptoms... rinvoq helps tame pain, stiffness, swelling. and for some... rinvoq can even significantly reduce ra fatigue. that's rinvoq relief. with ra, your overactive immune system attacks your joints.
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and i will not be our party's nominee but i won't walk away from the most important political fight and i hope you won't either. i'm proud to say i endorse joe biden and i hope you will work with me to help make him tbe th next president of the united states. >> throwing his endorsement behind joe biden. he failed to meet the 15% thr h threshold despite a candidacy that cost around $500 million. now he's poised to spend whatever it takes to defeat donald trump. just as joe biden -- and joinin white house reporter.
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and doing a round the day after is something i've done. it's a small and thankless club. but what happened before the withdrawal and the speech today? >> one, i'm excited to get the weekend off. i haven't had a day off since christmas. i don't find this so tough. in some ways i'm looser now than i've been in a few months. so, careful with the questions you ask. i think the real question is when you saw what we saw, where were you? we saw it three days ago. we've put together a data operation that's going out nightly. i think most other campaigns are finding out what they do from 538 or other websites. >> steve kornacki. >> he might have better sources. look, the shift was real and it started right after south carolina and quite frankly f you had a poll,if it was more than 12 hours old,it wasn't worth
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anything anymore. the numbers i saw,that we predicted 12 hours out was joe and bernie were going to get over 500 delegates. it was an unprecedented rise and the truth is, even with the data we had, and it's dramatic and real and important for the vice president to build upon that. i think -- you were talking about this on the panel before. i actually think you feel pretty good when things are going well. >> it's a dangerous time. >> the party has a real incentive to end it early, to see real consolidation. i don't think bernie was ever running to be president of more than 40% of the party and unless there are a few months to get ready for what is going to be a razor-thin general election that's going to be vastly closer
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than we, as democrats, want it to be. i think it's good to take a step back. he worked hard to flip the house. a lot of the folks around trump blame mike for nancy pelosi and impeachment because of the 24 races we helped win the last cycle. mike said this is too important. i'm in this until the finish. mike has been very successful. he spent nothing but his own money. present company excluded, brilliant people around him. his view was i'm going to be the nominee or the most important pur person in helping this get across the line because it's that important. it had mike as the nominee, and prepare battleground in the six states you need them andy with were going to really stand up to
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a data operation that we think can compete with the republican side. he's definitely standing and i think it's going to be important what he does going forward. >> ken pioneered the campaign technology and marrying those things together and it really is the marrying up of the best technologies with the best ways to reach voters and get a mejs out. i don't think it's a secret that it's your campaign has done that with great effect. >> mike set up an operation as a vender to help our campaign, as it has, set up campaigns to help elect democrats to the house and help other it was definitely different then. what president trump was able to do is riley like nothing -- >> you mean with facebook?
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>> one, the republicans -- republicans really thought they were going to start getting wiped out this decade. and so, they were in an unprecedented effort to -- and democrats had nothing like that. president trump goats the nominations. he's handed this voter file, which is at least five, six, seven years ahead of where we were. and at the same time literally nothing else. there's no unions, no other support, no republican organizations. so, he goes fully digital at a time digital and social is going straight up and he marries those two things together. i don't want to be a critic of the 2016 campaign. but it was run with union organization -- >> hillary's? >> yeah. in ways the republican field, as we looked at it, were literally two cycles ahead. and two years is a generation in
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terms of digital. >> i think our viewers are pretty savvy about all of this. that's why i want to understand what happens to all of this. there are laws that would prevent you from giving this to joe biden. >> mike has set up his effort as a vendor and a vendor can work with the party, a vendor can work with democratic-aligned group. >> with campaign finance lawyers? >> no, vendors have good campaign finance lawyers. >> you're one of the smartest political minds in the country, your modesty aside. do you look at that first debate as putting defeat in motion? >> i'm not going to argue the debate was my necessarily highlight in the campaign. i think what we saw in the last 36 hours would have swamped any
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campaign. there was an idea vice president campaign may not have a campaign that could go the distance. ours was base on a warren/bloomberg campaign. 90% of the votes or that we would have gotten would go to the vice president. and so, his ascendancy really took our campaign out of any lane we otherwise would have. >> it's hard to come out and do these things on the day it ends. i appreciate you being here. it sounds like mike bloomberg is going to stay. >> i hope he cares about the environment and so i think you've just started to hear from us. >> as someone who endorsed biden, will he run ads against bernie sanders in the primary? >> if someone guessed we had
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them and they were locked and loaded and ready to go, basil is a smart guy. >> the trump ads are still running. this campaign is, at this point, fully negative. not running any pause tvl. i did see a bloomberg ad that should have been changed. >> so, you're not going to rule out ads against bernie sanders? >> let's just say we're running a fully negative campaign and we'll see how it goes. >> afterwards, donald trump got himself impeached last time he thought joe biden was a political threat to him.
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watches a lot of tv and seems entirely possible he woke up this morning and immediately booked his old friend, rudy giuliani a trip to ukraine. joe biden entered the race for president in late april last year. not only was he the immediate favorite, but polls showed him well positioned to defeat donald trump. a poll gave biden an eight-pointed advantage nagszally. trump was so threatened by biden he decided to take out the biden name using the powers of the
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presidency to do it. trump's former national security advisor, john bolton's manuscript reveal as pressure campaign just after biden declared. what followed was a frantic effort not in dispute at all, to get a foreign government to dig up dirt that resulted in donald trump's impeachment. here we are joe biden has a commanding lead in the primary and according to fox news polling an eerily reminiscent eight-point lead over the general election. and what will he do this time? jonathan. >> well, publicly the president is eager for this fight. he believes the bernie sanders, the one he's been publicly chanting for, he's a socialist, thinks he's out of step with a lot of the country and jin up
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among the lefts that was rigged against bernie sanders, hope that some of bernie's hard core supporters might stay home. but biden has always been his focus, as gleeful as he is about mike bloomberg's demise. they do believe. as a trump operative told me in a overnight text i woke up to this morning, get ready for the name hunter biden to be back in your lives again. it led the president to be impeached. they're going to make the assertion the biden family, their dealings were corrupt. there's no evidence of that. no one has been charged with wrong doing. but they're still going to use that playbook. they're going to paint biden himself as someone who's prone to a lot of gaps and mixing up of names and so on. paint him as a washington insider who spent decades with the senate and the vice presidency.
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so, they still like that part of it, that formula for painting the race. they're seeing joe biden's rise, the way he's coalesced the democrats around him. and strength among african-american voters thinking because they didn't come out for hillary clinton like they did for barack obama and they're afraid, they will again for joe biden and of course, trump's primary concern about biden is he would be the one candidate who could steal some of the white working class votes in the pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin trio where the margins were so slim, where trump doesn't have much room to work with here. adding that all up, as much as the president is publicly thrilled there, are absolutely private concerns. >> because i think hunter biden is going to become the emails of 2020. i expect donald trump is going to be hammering away@this.
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whauts what's going to be concerning is all trump's activity to bust up the coalition, i think, as time goes on, and especially if we can end this process sooner than later,if there's a coalescing around joe biden, it's going to be harder to break through. more often than not folks will see through it, particularly the suburban voters. >> i think the plus side of impeachment for biden is it was all over the news and if there were anything on hunter biden, the republicans controlled the senate. >> and ultimately joe biden survived it. it's old news. now, granted, he's still going to keep trying. but i'm more curious what republican strategists,
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salivating about running against bernie sanders and socialism, how that shifts their posture in races around the country. >> there is an awareness it's going to be harder to paint joe biden as a socialist. >> because he's not. >> this wouldn't be the first time they try make a political point. but they know that is going to be harder this time around. and already announced there will be hearings into burisma. it's not going away. all right. after the break, bernie sanders making a claim to his legacy. sa making a claim to his legacy
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bernie sanders is somebody who has the virtue of saying exactly what he believes. great authenticity, fashion and fearless. he served on the veteran's committee and got bills done. i think people are ready for a call to action. they want honest leadership who cares about them. they want somebody who's going to fight for them and they will find it in bernie. feel the burn. >> it's a good ad but, despite what it looks like, no, president obama has not endorsed bernie sanders. he's not endorsed any candidate for the 2020 primary. a very bold, pretty good ad in
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the wake of joe biden's super tuesday sweep. joe biden saying, quote, barack obama chose vice president biden to be his partner over eight years in the white house. by contrast senator sanders explored a primary challenge to president obama who he compared to a moderate republican and said was not a progressive. no quantity of ads can rewrite history and there no substitute for genuinely having the back of the best president of our lifetime. >> it is a great ad but made me more nostalgic for barack obama and that's probably driving a lot of this. a lot of voters can't get michelle obama back, but if we can get joe, that brings back some of the same folks, that same feeling that we had in the
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white house when barack obama was there, that might run some of this to. and all the sudden embrace the standard bearer of the democratic party, i don't know if that resonates. >> i think bernie is still in a very strong position with his voters and his grass roots. in some ways you're usually more animated after a setback. i don't know why they would run this play. it's not on brand. but the former president from the party is the most establishmenty person that exists. >> for all the things bernie sanders won't compromise on, like making his comments on cuba more palitable and try to quell democratic veeters who are like a little strange. he does an ad like that embracing the establishment president. but it's not effective. >> weird. >> and probably a play off for
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some of the southern states where african-american voters, would be particularly nostalgic. and were although the former president a couple different times took biden's temperature like are you sure you want to do this? he stayed relatively quiet behind the scenes on this and the biden camp is hoping that once he becomes the nominee, gets across the finish line to see barack and michelle obama trying to drive turnout in the african-american communities that didn't come out as in as much force for 2016. the obamas for hillary clinton too but a different connection because we raerd reporting over a few days of voters went to biden saying he was with barack and we feel like we know him and we owe him. >> all right. when we come back, donald trump kicking his former attorney general when he's down.
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all right, guys. this is an election story of a different stripe. donald trump's former attorney general jeff sessions like one, two -- i don't know -- like three attorney generals ago, fighting to get the senate seat in alabama, a race last night to a runoff. cue the attack of donald trump on twitter. quote, this is what happens to someone who loyally gets
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appointed attorney general of the united states and then doesn't have the wisdom or courage to stare down and end the phony russia witch hunt. recuses himself on first day in office in the mueller scam begins. exclamation point. bitter much? >> extraordinarily predictable tweet. only surprised that it took this long. had it in the drafts for a while. it was not jeff sessions' first day. the president never forgiven him for that. stepping aside for the russia probe. he was angry at him for months. had him talked out by the republicans in the senate. literally the day after the 2018 midterms the first day trump is fire sessions. i'm going to fire him in the morning he said. now he held his tongue throughout this process as sessions trying to win the old senate seat back much to the surprise of the aides that counselled him to do so and then you knew you would hear from him
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today. >> do we know what the outcome is likely to be in that race? >> it's pretty close. the opponent is auburn football coach who trump was pretty critical of trump in the past and the white house doesn't love either option and trump's anger of sessions will pardon the pun trump anything and i think sessions considered to be a slight underdog. >> most beautiful part of the primary is roy moore got around 7%. god bless alabama for really -- >> the accused pedophile. >> yes. >> what a time to be alive. we'll sneak in a break. ve e*trae whose tech makes life easier by automatically adding technical patterns on charts and helping you understand what they mean. don't get mad, get e*trade.
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basel, elise and most of you to you for watching. "mpt daily" with chuck todd starts right now. ♪ welcome to wednesday. it is "meet the press daily." good evening. it is a long continuous day from super tuesday to extended wednesday but wow what a 24 hours it's been in the democratic presidential primary. joe biden pulled off a comeback. he leads the delegate race for the first time with wins in ten of the 14 suner tuesday contests including maine and nbc news called less than two hours ago and michael bloomberg announced he was dropping out to endorse joe biden. this afternoon in front
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