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but as tex settled into prison, an auctioneer sold it all to the highest bidder. that's all for this edition of "dateline." i'm natalie morales. thank you for watching. first up on msnbc, major developments as coronavirus spreads. the infection hits a major u.s. city. and a big change in store for the passengers stuck onboard a cruise ship outside of california. lockdown. millions told to stay put for weeks. and a medical expert answers the most googled questions. ? two days to go before a critical contest for the democratic presidential hopeful. we begin with breaking news. "the grand princess" cruise
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ship, carrying 21 people infected with coronavirus is set to dock tomorrow. a quarter of italy's population is on lock jon. closing off of the lombardi region and 14 other provinces in the north. including tourist destinations like milan and venice. a quarantine facility collapsed and trapped 71 people. and back here in the u.s., a person who attendsed cpac has testified positive for coronavirus. the person infected has been quarantined in new jersey and had no interaction with president trump or vice
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president pence. the total number of confirmed cases of crooronavirus in the u.s., is 446, across 32 states and washington, d.c. the nationwide death toll is 19. nbc news correspondent scott kohn is in oak lands. >> reporter: they were originally supposed to arrive at the cruise terminal across the bay in san francisco this past thursday. and then the 21 coronavirus cases changed everything. they have decided on here, the port of oakland, tomorrow, that the ship will dock here. and it's not clear what will happen with quarantines and testing. this is a difficult time for the cruise industry.
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yesterday, vice president pence made with officials of the cruise industry across the country in florida, to talk about the broader issues of coronavirus, testing and screens like that. and they emerged to say they have a plan. >> i have, working closely with the governor of california, and all of our health officials, a plan, that is being implemented this weekend. to bring the ship for a port. all of the passengers and crew will be tested for coronavirus as appropriate. >> the cruise industry, they have come up with procedures that will start to go into effect, to make incidents like these a little bitless less shocking and nonroutine.
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the vice president did state, that if you are elderly or a family member is elderly, or any of the at risk groups, it's not a good time to take a cruise right now. >> the ship is going to be docking in oakland. any reaction on the ground of the ship coming there. >> reporter: not yet. as you say, it's kind of the middle of the night. we don't know that yet. let's not like we'll see the passengers off of this ship. to get them quarantined where necessary, and tested where necessary, and get those who need medical attention to where they need to. >> thank you. and now, to the breaking news from italy. claudio, what are the rules that people need to follow?
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>> this is an unprecedented lockdown here because 16 million people, as you were saying, are told they should avoid movement from and into that region. to give you a sense of where it is. it's where milan is. and it's one of the most pob louse regions in italy, with 10 million people, with 14 other provinces, including venice. the government is telling them they cannot go in and out of the region. within the area, within the region, within the town, any movement should be avoided. they're telling people with high fever not to leave the house. they closed down schools, finance centers, swimming schools, clubs, bingos. everything is shut down. this place is turning into ghost
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towns and ghost regions. why? this is where the outbreak took place in february. and the number of people that tested positive across italy. it has 20 regions. 508 cases that tested positive, half of them turned in that region. the government, even though they've introduced gradual restriction measures, they say, enough. not move around. stay away from each other, at least three feet. don't move around. new reaction from the vice president, where he and the
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testify spoke last week. what is the president saying? any long-term impact on future gatherings or campaign rallies? >> he's not expressing concern publicly. it's good to note this conference and this context. this is one of the biggest gatherings of conservatives in the country. thousands of people attend. i was one of those that attended this convention. and ivanka trunk. members of congress, were all attending this conference at the end of february. the white house says they don't have concern. putting out a statement, saying while the vice president came in th contact with this attendee, they are monitoring guidelines.
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a downplay because of all this, because the president didn't come in contact with the person. the other question we have, are trump rallies. those can be attended by 15,000, 20,000 people, in close proximity. it's like a basketball game or a rock concert gathering. the president was asked about that and here's what he has to say. >> we'll have tremendous rallies. we're going really well and we've done a fantastic job with that subject on the virus. we've had tremendous cooperation with other countries and all over the world. we made it very, very tough. very strong. very stringent borders. >> are you concerned that the virus is getting close to the white house? >> i'm not concerned at all. we've done a great job. >> not talking about any public changes. but i will say there's no more
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rallies scheduled for the president. and often he does one once a week or every other week. at the white house, they have changed the procedure for visitors. they want visitors to the white house to say they have been to a country outside the u.s., so they can screen if anybody's been to affected countries. >> new measures in place already. thank you for your time this morning. i want to bring in courtney, the white house correspondent for "usa today." now, we know an attendee at cpac has proven positive for the virus. is there any sense how it might affect the schedule moving forward? >> as shannon mentioned, the president typically holds rallies before some of the big primary elections.
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we saw him in south carolina. this is a big one on tuesday in michigan. you would expect the president to hold a valley on monday night. but we haven't seen any rallies on the schedule, which is a big change for the president, especially as the election season ramps up. >> do you think that's a coincidence? or do you think that's on purpose? >> i -- you know, we would have heard about a rally before the announcement of the infected person at cpac. i don't think that played a role. but i think they're tamping down and making sure this outbreak is out of reach at the white house. >> courtney, we heard president trump say earlier, he didn't worried about the virus getting closer to washington, d.c., and his administration has done a terrific job with the response.
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what detail can you give when he said, we have done a great job, with the rallies, making sure everybody's safe. and not panicking the public but conveying urgency. >> yeah. you have to walk a line, right? we saw the president at the cdc on friday, trying to reassure americans that the government has the coronavirus under control. this is a rapidly moving outbreak. we have 19 deaths so far. it's led to a lot of questions about that assurance, particularly among testing. we did see him sign the emergency spending package on friday, as well. there's a lot of optimism about moving forward with that, in terms of prevention and preparation efforts. $3 billion is going there, as well. they are confident that things will get back on track. >> there's reports about how the
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white house is standling cro ha coronavirus. and "the washington post" looks at how the administration lost control. is that the right picture to paint of what's going on? >> i think there was some delay in coordination efforts across the administration and federal agencies. i don't think it was just the administration. i think there was some infighting. the administration did buy some time, by implementing travel restrictions, to try to mri catchup there. but whether or not that's going to make a difference, we'll have to wait and see. >> you think that came down to a dispute about indecision how to respond? >> i think coordination and a lack of coordination with the administration and with some of
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the health agencies involved. at the cdc and the fda, as in the articles that you mentioned in "the washington post" and "the new york times," they're reporting this weekend. >> courtney, thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you. joining me now from baltimore, is the director of operations at johns hopkins critical preparedness. good morning to you. >> good morning. >> what can the government do to get a handle on the virus? is it time to take extreme measures? >> i don't think it's time to take extreme measures. we talk about containment, wa h watchiwatch catching each and every case. but the key is to push the testing forward. we can have a really good understanding of who has coronavirus. how can we give them the best
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tools they need to self-quarantine. >> let's circle back to "the grand princess." it's set to dock in oakland tomorrow. should this create concern for anyone who lives or works over there? >> i don't think it should create additional concern. residents have a right to be concerned when something like this is happening. but this is the second or third time they've offboarded a ship like this. and the cdc is working very hard to make sure the plan is in place. that's why it was pushed from to today from monday. we're learning lessons on the fly as we go. >> what would you like to see "the princess" and the government do when they're
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offboarding the passengers? >> decontamination along if process will be key. i think the health care workers and the people transporting these people, have the appropriate ppe. that the patients and the quarantined people get moved efficiently and effectively. and remembering these are people these are people who have suffered on the ship, and may be ill, or mildly ill, or may be afraid and make sure their needs are cared for. >> lauren, thank you so much. we'll see you later this hour. two days away from what's being called a minisuper tuesday. an updated delegate count. but does it give us a clear picture where the race stands? how coronavirus could send the economy into a tailspin that could last for months.
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welcome back to msnbc. you're looking at a live shot of downtown dallas. now, for their headlines on international women's day. equal pay for the soccer team. the proposal is not enough. the federation has offered to day male players the same as the counterparts, the team wants bonuses for playing tournaments. they are seeking $66 million in damages in a gender discrimination lawsuit. overseas in malaysia, relatives of those on flight ms 360. >> now, the feeling from then to now is different. but the pain is still the same. and the fact that the plane is still missing is still is same.
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that shouldn't be the case after six years. >> that plane went missing in 2016 over the indian ocean. family members of the 239 people aboard are calling for reviving search effort s that ended in 2018. and today, the annual iditarod sled dog race begins in alaska. 50 teams will travel from willow to nome. spectators got to meet the mushers and the dogs at a ceremony before the race. the mushers will face an epic amount of snow on this year's trail. 800 dogs will compete. the race for the white house. we have a new delegate count as votes continue to be reported. joe biden has 624 delegates. bernie sanders has 556. there's 110 left to win, which
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could help sanders narrow biden's 68 delegate lead. a candidate forum planned for biden and sanders in florida have been canceled over coronavirus concerns. both candidates have been drawing huge crowds at rallies in st. louis and chicago. after the big rally, sanders going to flint, michigan, for a round table event. sanders made a last-minute decision to ditch his speech directing the african-american community. he stuck with his messaging and taking a shot at the former vice president. >> a long time before he was vice president. i have been in congress for a long time.
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who was there when the going got tough? who was there, when you have to take a political risk to stand up for justice. >> biden, continuing to rally big crowds in missouri. talking to supporters in kansas city. he stuck to his normal stump speech and threw in a jab at sanders. >> if you want a nominee, who is a democrat, a lifelong democrat, a crowd democrat, an obama/biden democrat, join us. i believe we were delivered to a moment where we're in a position, that not only can we defeat donald trump, we'll have an opportunity. an opportunity if we think big enough and bold enough to build a future this nation deserves. >> today, biden is campaigning in mississippi and sanders is sticking with michigan. it's the state with the biggest number of delegates up for grabs on tuesday. overall, 352 delegates will be handed out.
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we go to grand rapids, michigan. how is the campaign focusing its efforts in tuesday's most important state? >> that's right. so, super tuesday did not go as well as hoped for the sanders campaign. they lost california. they did not do as well as they could have in the southern states. didn't pick up as many delegates as they hoped. the sanders campaign is going all-in on michigan here. they're moving staff to the state. they have ads up in the state. and sanders will have been up across the state, in flint, ann arbor and across the state. he held a rally with muslim-americans. and his outreach on afric african-americ african-americans, as well. >> you said that sanders lost california -- >> last night, he was going towards talking about african-americans and he was talking about a town hall. and this is what he had to say
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about the importance of this election. >> this is a pivotal and serious moment in american history. and what we're talking about in 2020, is probably the most important election maybe since the civil war. we, together, are going to do everything we can to defeat the most dangerous president in the history of this country. donald trump will be defeated because the american people, no matter what their political view may be, understand, we cannot have a pathological liar in the white house. >> he won california, but his delegate lead has tightened up there. in michigan, senator sanders has
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breaking news this morning, the number of cases of coronavirus rising, as well as the economic impact. here in the u.s., at least 446 people are infected in 32 states. that number growing. the decision to cancel big-ticket events like the south by southwest festival, follows the cancellation of others, like the james bond movie premiere and the ncaa tournaments.
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good morning to you. thanks for coming. >> good morning. >> this is the first time in 34 years that south by southwest will not go on as scheduled. what's the economic impact for a city like austin? >> it will have a major financial impact for the city of austin. it's a big event for the music, tech and film industries. and coming up to the official cancellation, a bunch of companies said they were not sending employees or representatives to the festival. twitter said they were dropping out. facebook, intel, netflix, among others. so, officials had to cancel this event. it's significant for the city of austin. it brought in $355 million last year, roughly. for officials to cancel this event is a really big deal for them. they also rely on ticketholders and consumers and everything that goes on around this event
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in austin. they have full-time employees that work at this festival all year. there are major parties that are thrown. it's one of the most profitable events for the hospitality industry in that city. >> we've seen the impact of europe. games are being played in empty arenas. soccer matches and march madness might be different here. what impact would that have here? >> the sports business in america is massive. americans spend more than $100 million a year on sports. and just to break down the numbers real quick here. they spend $56 billion on sporting events. $33 billion on athletic equipment. and $19 billion on gym memberships. you mentioned the march madness, that's significant. sports fans love march madness. now, there's a push for the ncaa not to have crowds in stands during the games because of the
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career of the coronavirus outbreak. fans can enjoy the games in the stands. they don't want to think, is the person next to me infected? it's one of the considerations the ncaa are going through right now. >> ticket sales and merchandise. you wrote an article that because of this, the demand for private plane travel is up right now. not everybody can afford this. some might be staying home. what's the impact to airlines? >> there's been a major impact to materials. they are taking a significant hit. now, the losses have been adjusted upwards. they believe the cost will be between $6 billion or $133 billion. and the $63 billion, we're talking about 2020.
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and this is if the coronavirus outbreak is right now, with the markets affected right now. if it expands, it will be more money. airlines are significantly in the red, impacted by this. and consumers are trying to stay safe. they might want to travel. but they don't want to be in a situation where they could possibly infect it because of the ramifications. and workplaces are trying to figure out strategies, for what to do, if there's an infection in the office. not all offices allow for that. there's no playbook for this. and a lot of corporations in america are trying to figure out the best strategy to keep employees safe and not affect productivity. >> thank you for joining us. speaking about our travel and what consumers should do, lauren is with us again. let's talk about traveling. spring break is around the corner. are people safe wiping down the seats? >> yeah. that's a great question.
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it's a question that a lot are asking right now. after you've checked out the cdc websites and the state department websites, to see what the travel advisories are. if there's travel restrictions in place, your decision is made for you. if not, you have to think about it as an individual setting. are you feeling unwell. could you be quarantined for 14 days? do you have the core morbidities to look at how you will do if you get the virus. i don't think anyone should cancel their vacation plans. but they should think about whether it is important for them to go on this trip. >> and core morbidity is underlying conditions that might make you more susceptible. >> if you're older or sick or have respiratory issues. >> the people decide to travel, what precautions should they
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take before they leave? >> they should travel with hand sanitizer and wash their hands often, often. washing your hands is the best defense right now. they should read about travel restrictions in the areas they're going. if they're going to a mass gathering, think hard about whether that's necessary. maybe redirect their travel plans for a place that's less risky. >> public transit, a hotbed for germs. think of all of the areas you touch that everybody else has touched. how do you protect yourself just on your daily commute? >> yeah. touch as few surfaces as possible, on the train or anything like that, wash your hands. or use hand sanitizer. get a lot of it on your hands and rub it well. avoid it when you can.
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take an uber to the place you're going. that's a good option. and just remember those uber drivers and the people that can't do things like work from home. and tip them well when you use them. >> that's great. we know disinfectants are flying off of the shelves. but not all cleaning supplies and hand sanitizers are made equal. what should people do if they're looking to buy the wipes, hand sanitizers and the soaps? >> soap is your best bet, for sure. we know that soap is not always available. look for the sanitizing wipes and look for the ones that are appropriate for use on skin. there are recipes that are floating around online. we know how to make a hand sanitizer. it is an alcohol-based product. but make sure you're reading recipes that are real and not inappropriate. i saw one floating around using
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vod vodka. that will not work. start with the soap. use that regularly and often. >> thank you for that information. and tonight, richard engel goes inside the fight of coronavirus. watch "on assignment: outbreak" on msnbc. we talk about soccer moms and security moms being important in election years. next, why sanitizer moms could be a problem for the president in november. it's in this morning's "must reads." first, the latest candidate to drop out of the presidential race dropped into "saturday night live." senator elizabeth warren met kate mckinnon. took a moment to thank supporters and then took a wipe at mayor bloomberg. >> i'm proud of our campaign, we made a coalition of teachers,
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but trump only knows how to act one way. so, he is dragging out his usual bag of tricks in a situation where his juvenile antics are even more appropriate and alarming than usual. he has yet to figure out that the coronavirus is not an enemy that can be wished away with a demeaning nickname or halted with talk. pretty harsh op-ed there. do you think the president will change his approach to the crisis? >> we've seen no evidence that trump will change his approach. trump is reliable about two things, tweeting and disinformation and lying. we've seen that on display with his response to coronavirus so far. a week ago, he suggested that the 15 confirmed cases at the time, would be down to zero in a couple of days. we're now well over 400 cases. he's conflicted the messages of the top health experts in the
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country. consistently, he has tried to downplay the potential impact of the crisis. this is dangerous. you want to rely on the leader of the nation. and right now, the evidence suggests that the american people can't. >> how are people around the president reacting? >> it's interesting to watch. the head of the cdc, the hhs secretary stands behind him as he obfuscates and says things like the testing kits for coronavirus are perfect and beautiful. that's been a major issue and there may be more infected people in the u.s. than we've estimated because of the lack of testing and the issues we've had there. they've tried to champion him because everyone knows trump doesn't do well with criticism. >> in the op-ed, julian castro
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writes, sanitary moms don't have the next election. meet the sanitizer moms of 2020. we're sharing updates ant the emerging pandemic. she goes on to stress, how are we going to work when our kids' schools close and our workplaces do. from this perspective, how crucial is it for the trump administration to get its messaging right? not only for the safety of people but crucial electorates. >> it's spot-on. you can't hide -- people are saying it's a potential pandemic. public health experts say it's a matter of time before it's labeled a pandemic by the w.h.o. and trump said last week, the 15 cases would be down to zero. there's 19 deaths, 400 confirmed cases. you can't hide this. you can't lie your way through
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it and have a rosi rosey deflix h depiction of how things are going. his base has stayed behind him. evident suggests that might not change. it will be interesting to see, especially when you consider that he's continuing to hold rallies or he says he will. he's not on the schedule. many republican voters are older and that's one of the at-risk populations. >> that gets us to your latest read. trump says he will keep holding rallies amid coronavirus. but he has none scheduled after holding six in the past month. what do you think that says? >> i think they're trying to put on a brave face. it's interesting that he's not holding rallies tomorrow night. he often says that out loud. he's been holding the rallies to troll democrats ahead of primaries.
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he's hold iing them in the stat before the primaries to get his base rallied up. he has none scheduled in michigan or missouri or washington in the next coming days. it is interesting. many republican voters are older. this is an at-risk population. we've seen major events like south by southwest canceled. it's a question for trump and other candidates. is it safe to hold rallies in this context, i think is a fair question. >> john, thanks for your time this morning. yesterday, in this hour, we identified victoria mather as a "vanity fair" royal watcher. to clarify, she has not worked at "vanity fair" since 2018. next up, new questions over the supreme court's election year case load. how the docket is making it tough for the court to stay above politics and how the trump administration is getting involved.
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another week of hearings in the country's highest court, there are new questions on what role the supreme court will play there year. the court is getting dragged into 2020, by taking on a number of politically explosive cases on issues like afwoergs, immigration and presidential powers. joining me now, again kirshner. good morning to you. president trump and some of his critics have beencalls calling on justices to recuse themselves. would they do that and would they? >>. >> they could and if they feel it's in order they would. justice rehnquist recused himself because he was part of the nixon administration, so he decided he wasn't going to decide some issues that arose in the nixon administration. justice kagen did the same
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thing. it's not unusual. lindsey, president trump is a one-trick pony. we've seen this before. what he does is he attacks the people and institutions that are potentially going to say something bad for him or damaging to him. so when the supreme court decides some of these cases against donald trump, and inevitably they will, because donald trump has been losing in court over and over and over again, what he will say is, look, american people, i told you that justices should have recused themselves, justice sotomayor, justis ginsburg. therefore he is trying to bake into the cake the concern that maybe opinions handed down against him by the supreme court are not legitimate. it's what he does. he attacks institutions, whether it's the fbi, the doj, the
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mueller report which he attacked relentlessly, so when the mueller report was issued and highly critical of him, he said look, it was a witch huchbt, can't be credited. of course he did have considerable help from his water boy bill barr in also trashing the report before people got to read it. >> last week the court heard a case about alabama restrictions. the court will consider whether congress can subpoena president trump's records and whether immune from investigations. they will render opinions on trump's efforts to phase out an obamacare program shielding 700,000 immigrants from deportation and consider whether to drive into questions connected to the affordable care act and sanctuary cities. should they be taking on such
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partisan cases in an election year? >> it's a great question. the thing is the supreme court is the institution of last resort to decide the constitutionality of laws and of executive orders. so of necessary, they have to take on cases like this if those cases actually present a constitution al issue that needs to be decided. so political though they may be, these cases have to be handled somewhere. and i've always said, it's not called the supreme legislative branch or the supreme executive branch, the last stop to decide the constitutionality of our laws is the supreme court. >> so it's supposed to be nonpartisan. what do all of these issues say and the fact that they're going to be hearing them, they're going to be hearing them, what does that say about the politicization of the court? >> i think there have always
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been attacks over time that the supreme court was being politicized. i still have faith in the justices. i mean, even in these days of hyper partsan rhetoric and rancor. i think the justices still try to look at each case on the merits. they can't avoid the political noise that sort of rises around these issues. but this is our institution. this is our system of government, for better or worse. and the supreme court has to wrestle with issues that have significant political consequences. >> glen kirshner, thank you so much. >> thank you. breaking news in the coronavirus outbreak, we're live in california as thousands of cruise ship passengers are finally headed to shore. only to face more uncertainty. plus we're just moments away from pope francis making a big change to his sunday service. we're live in rome. 're live in e
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